96433f No.15783466
So here’s the question, are there any multiplayer FPS games right now that are actually good AND have a health, consistent online life to them? I’m getting tired of buying into some competitive shooter only to find it is already dead and everyone has moved on.
75325d No.15784529
What constitutes a dead shooter in your opinion and what were you trying to play? I've seen people say shit like "it has less than 20,000 players so it's dead" before. Alternatively and understandably the game got mainstream success months or years after the initial release and the community went to shit hence it's dead.
d16c26 No.15784542
CSGO is still active and fun. Usually has 300,000 minimum online during both EU an NA hours, sometimes goes up to 4-500,000.
CS:Source still gets a few thousand players online during primetime if you prefer that; 1.6 is dead, though.
5447ac No.15784558
>>15784542
>dogshit-strike
We've had much better games since 2005.
d16c26 No.15784571
>>15784558
Name some multiplayer FPS games that are better. I'm waiting.
e66ee0 No.15784574
>>15784571
No, we're here on /v/ to be contrarian and hate everything. It's how you know we're in the cool kid's club.
>>15783466
Alone In The Dark: Illumination.
6a0d4c No.15784575
Rising Storm 2, Insurgency Standalone and Sandstorm, TF2, Arma 3, almost every Battlefield game Bad Company 2 included, which still has a decent playerbase, Call of Duty games, Quake Champions, Squad and Post Scriptum are basically the only games I can think of.
>>15784542
>1.6 is dead, though.
1.6 has like >15k players on Steam, and the majority of players are people who have a cracked copy so they don't count.
The real issue is finding a good server. The majority of servers are slowhack servers with faked player counts, which once you connect to them will change all your bindings to connect to other servers, and to fix it you need to make a brand new config and make it read only. Immensely annoying having to restart the game every single time you connect to a slowhack server.
5447ac No.15784581
>>15784571
BF1942
Bad Company 2
Insurgency
Warface
Crossfire
Now you're going to say "nuh uh those don't count because I don't like them!" like the slack-jawed faggot you are.
d16c26 No.15784583
>>15784575
Maybe 1.6 has tons of players with cracked copies, it's certainly possible. But their steam numbers are nowhere near 15k.
https://store.steampowered.com/stats/
1.6 can barely break 1k players on steam. You're probably right about the large cracked-copy playerbase, though; that's how it is with Brood War, tons more players playing on non-BNet servers.
6a0d4c No.15784587
>>15784583
Read again Anon. It's called Counter-Strike on Steam, not 1.6 or anything else.
6a0d4c No.15784590
>>15784581
Battlefield is a completely different type of game, Warface is shit and Crossfire is a fucking 6th rate Chink clone of 1.6.
d16c26 No.15784593
>>15784581
>Insurgency
No.
>BF1942
It's good, but it's not the same style of FPS at all, so I don't understand why you brought it up.
>Bad Company 2
No. It's fun, but not better than CSGO.
>Warface
Literal pay-to-win garbage.
>Crossfire
Dogshit game, why would you even list this? Are you trying to make your own side look retarded?
>>15784587
Oh, I stand corrected.
702db1 No.15784601
>>15784587
>a twenty year old game is beating out JEWDAY 2
5447ac No.15784602
>>15784590
Warface has solid mechanics, and Crossfire was once good before it went full chink. I forgot what happened to it.
>>15784593
>No
No what? No counter argument? Sure looks like it.
>not better than CSGO
Anything's better than a fucking gambling machine with shitty gunplay.
1b0a5e No.15784604
>>15783466
Do you strictly want to shoot guns and nothing else?
If no, then you could try Dirty Bomb, Overwatch or Rainbow Siege since those seem like they still have a large playerbase.
Alternatively, get a Switch and play Splatoon. Dunno if the emulation scene for the Switch or the WiiU already have networking so you can play Splatoon with other pirates.
560101 No.15784608
>>15784593
>Insurgency
>No.
Why? It sure looks like a decent shooter without any counter-strike cancer like pixel hunting, tiny maps and retarded spray patterns. It even has 80% discount right now.
3d37c3 No.15784611
Insurgency, Tarkov, Squad, and Rising Storm 2.
Don't get insurgency's sequel it's fucked on its development cycle
6a0d4c No.15784612
>>15784604
>Dirty Bomb
Dead. The devs have announced that they are stopping support for the game. Final patch is coming out eventually, and then they will keep the servers running but no more patches or content. Playerbase is also far from large. Under 800 players peak.
d16c26 No.15784624
>>15784602
Warface is actually pay-to-win, so it doesn't belong in this thread. Crossfire is shit.
Insurgency is fun, but not as good as CSGO; and regardless, it's a different style of FPS as well.
It's funny that you criticize gambling in CSGO but not Warface or Crossfire; both of those shit games have the ability to pay for gameplay advantages, but in CSGO all you can get are new hats for your guns, which don't affect gameplay.
03a39f No.15784626
The best thing about multiplayer fps games was going through custom maps made by fans of the game. There are no multiplayer fps games where you can go through custom maps made by fans of the game anymore.
6a0d4c No.15784630
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>>15784611
>recommends tarkov
>doesn't recommend sandstorm
That's dumb. Sandstorm is coming out next month, Tarkov is coming out of beta never fucking ever, and the devs are sketchy slavs.
>>15784608
Insurgency is decent, but I think it's a bit too run and gun. I prefer Rising Storm 2 for a similar experience with less camping and run and gun nonsense.
1b0a5e No.15784634
>>15784612
Oh, I haven't tried it in a few years. Last time I checked, the katana french ninja was the latest guy. And that showed how incompetent they were.
It was a neat game and I wish some of it's gameplay concepts were reused for more games. Some classes having perks that let them interact with the map in unique ways or complete some objectives faster was great to make them more fleshed out.
But I suppose when it comes to hero shooters, it really didn't shine a candle to the alternatives that came next, especially with the try-hard attitude of "this is a fast game!".
d7e599 No.15784639
>>15783466
I'm playing Insurgency right this moment. I picked it back up since there really is fuck all else. It's still good. Only down point is most of the player base is stuck on the 24/7 push servers and I really dislike that game-mode. Wish the 24 player skirmish servers were still populated.
Co-op with custom maps is a lot of fun though.
>>15784602
>Crossfire
kek that game is so chink I had to get a working installer from a forum post. because the main one on the website didn't fucking work, which installed a launcher to install the actual game, but launching the game through said launcher didn't work either.
I stopped trying after that. There's a limit to how much jank a fucking game can be.
d7e599 No.15784645
>>15784630
>Sandstorm is coming out next month,
Anyone play the beta? I'm kinda miffed they gave the terrorists fucking bright colored tracksuits. Looks ridiculous.
892cfd No.15784646
>>15784571
Dirty Bomb.
It's dead tho.
cba8bf No.15784655
>>15784634
>But I suppose when it comes to hero shooters, it really didn't shine a candle to the alternatives that came next
The game was simply very fast and that speed was combined with low TTK for people who had godly tracking, which made a select few dominate everything. Your enemies were also tiny and didn't have oversized hitboxes.
74de17 No.15784660
>good
>multiplayer
I bet you believe in "based" niggers too.
cba8bf No.15784666
>>15784660
You're really cool, edgy and contrarian anon.
f8d668 No.15784672
>>15784660
Aw yiss, monster vore
Any more?
560101 No.15784691
>>15784630
I'm gonna get Insurgency because it's nearly free right now, but could you tell me what makes Rising Storm 2 better?
31a2db No.15784706
Short answer is a big fat no.
Long answer is a slightly leaner no with a caveat of you willing to deal with R6 Siege which is a mechanically very good game but with community so shit that it actively brings the game quality down. And it's Ubisoft, which is another big no for many people.
cba8bf No.15784752
>>15784691
Rising Storm 2 has helicopters which add a whole new world of tactics and gameplay, consistent updates, 64 player games compared to Insurgency's 32 player maximum, way more squad tactics because of the commander/squad leader system and less lonewolf bullshit. Automatic weapons also cannot just be sprayed at long distances. RS2 also has custom map support, Insurgency does too but custom map servers are largely dead in that game, while RS2 has many active custom map servers too.
If you get the game, visit Bloodbath and Right to Rebel servers, they are American servers but they are my main servers even as a Eurofag because they have great custom map rotations.
If you dislike Tripwire totally valid opinion to have, although I think that the RS2 team is doing a good job then you can get it for like 4€ from CD key resellers, practically nothing.
8a8a7f No.15784790
Space Hulk Deathwing, a fun little L4D with a 40k skin on.
1b0a5e No.15784795
>>15784752
Wasn't Rising Storm 2 that added "hardcore servers", with things like no killcam?
Last I checked the game, had an horrible time in a map that was pretty much open ground with a bridge since someone from the oposing team would sit far away from his entire team and snipe our side, without anyone being able to tell where the bullets came from.
Seemed to encourage lone wolfing far more, IMO.
cba8bf No.15784798
>>15784795
Killcam isn't in RS2. You might be thinking of Red Orchestra 2 instead.
96433f No.15784859
>>15784529
Just something with consistent online life where I won't have to wait 30 minutes for a server to fill up.
>>15784542
I loved the original CS but for some reason I could never get into GO. Actually, I was so good at the original I would get booted due to people thinking that I was hacking.
>>15784575
Might go for Rising Storm 2, though it looks like the peak jumps between 2k and 4k players. Also, do people still play Insurgency 1?
>>15784706
My lil bro was real into it for a while, but when I talked to him recently he said Siege was basically turned into a hero shooter, and I'm not sure I'm willing to deal with Ubisoft's shit.
>>15784790
I'm looking for more of a competitive shooter, between Nazi Zombie Trilogy, Vermintide 2, and L4D2 I've basically got my hoard shooter fix.
560101 No.15784890
>>15784859
>hoard
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
cba8bf No.15784900
>>15784859
>Also, do people still play Insurgency 1?
Do you mean the Source mod or the Standalone game? Standalone is doing well, around 2000-4000 players at any given time. Source mod is deader than Elvis.
dd514d No.15785373
>>15783466
>are there any multiplayer FPS games right now that are actually good AND have a health, consistent online life to them?
BF4 even if it's arguable. It's one of the odd-man-out games that shipped horribly, but after a long time became good (again, arguable).
914638 No.15785417
Speaking of, did Dice ever fix Battlefront 2? It’s 7 bucks right now and I’m a little tempted with the clone wars stuff.
5f6b9e No.15785418
Rising storm is run by SJWs. Do some goddamn research before you start recommending games.
Team fortress Classic is almost free now and has an active playbase on 2-5 servers. You will always find a 15 man game going but it's only on very few servers.
Left 4 dead 2 is very active. Can always get a game.
Vermintide 2 is also active and you can always get a game. Probably cheap on the grey market.
Any one got any recommendations which aren't military autism? It's not fun to get sniped from one of 70 different windows and play whack a mole over and over.
cba8bf No.15785450
>>15785418
>Rising storm is run by SJWs. Do some goddamn research before you start recommending games.
That's fucking retarded. The developers of RS2 have never cucked out or been SJWs and the community is absolutely fine with "roleplaying" in the game by calling each other gook and GI all the time over VOIP and the developers have done nothing to stop them. Tripwire has done shitty things, I agree, but I don't think the team behind the game is bad.
2174bf No.15785461
>>15785417
No. Just play the pandemic game.
5f6b9e No.15785467
>>15785450
>Tripwire is shitty
<But this bit of tripwire is fine
I'm sure when you buy the game you get to pick exactly what team members get given the money you spend. It's probably like Humble Bundle where you pick where the money goes right?
Stop being retarded.
cba8bf No.15785482
>>15785467
>But this bit of tripwire is fine
Yes, it is.
>all companies are one being and my world view is entirely black and white
Fucking retard. Neck yourself.
cee406 No.15785490
>>15785418
>Rising storm is run by SJWs. Do some goddamn research before you start recommending games.
Would love to see that “research” GI.
f31d8b No.15785511
Multiplayer FPS games are dead, aside from niche groups that play old games irregularly.
Move to fightan games instead.
21106b No.15785519
Reminder that Tribes Ascend is dead and Midair is shit.
Will we ever go fast again?
cba8bf No.15785554
>>15785519
Midair isn't bad, it's just dead.
96433f No.15785564
>>15785417
It’s a lot better now that they gutted the pay2win engine, but I feel like there are better shooters out there. I will give it that it actually does feel like a fight in the movie universe though, so if that’s what you’re after it may be worth it.
Campaign is still god awful though and filled to the brim with Stronk Female Characters.
21106b No.15785565
>>15785554
>looks like shit
>sounds like shit
>runs like shit
>plays like shit
>grindy as all hell, pretty much every option is locked from the start
>soy chink, whore and nigger as classes
no thanks
I'd rather reinstall T2 at this point.
e5a3c4 No.15785571
>>15784630
>supporting a dev that forces stronk wymyn down our throats, has retarded hipster-tier character customization, and has made the gameplay pace faster than in the original Insurgency in order to appeal to a "bigger audience" aka 14 year olds and mouthbreathing retards
e5a3c4 No.15785597
also
>Nobody has mentioned Titanfall 2 yet
It's excellent. Just make sure to buy it from some key-seller. Don't give a single shekel to ea.
8091f4 No.15785606
>>15785482
Purchasing a product shows approval to everything that produced that product. You don't get to choose who your money goes to, and by purchasing a Tripwire game you fund the shitty parts of Tripwire more than the good parts.
5f6b9e No.15785610
>>15785482
You're still retarded and your argument makes no sense. Any money you give to a SJW company is going to pay SJWs. It doesn't matter if you're paying for one game or another, they don't split this between teams. The money pot is the money pot.
>>15785490
Well this is /v/ so you're all too retarded to do a simple online search for the SJW shit Tripwire spew all through out Killing floor 2 interviews.
>>15785511
Fighting games are full of niggers, spics and drug addicts. Only complete scum play these games and these days they've gone full SJW as well. Fighting games are dying and the e celebs are toeing the SJW line as hard as possible to try and keep their weed money.
>>15785597
Isn't Titanfall origin only? I was interested in it.
cfc95e No.15785616
dd514d No.15785624
>>15785616
>xonotic
It's literally no better than Quake 3, and besides that it's been a nice few months with xonotic autist spamming the board
cba8bf No.15785646
>>15785565
True, disagree, runs fine on my machine™, I think it plays just fine and the grind really isn't that bad. I think you should probably have everything unlocked by 70 hours. The grind is really mild compared to any other F2P game.
Character designs are shit, sure. The art guy for the game was a really leftist Finnish guy called Voidspawn but he has split from the team since launch. He was also shit at the game, I didn't really like him.
>>15785606
Everything that produced Rising Storm 2 was a pretty liberal libertarian for amerilards dev team that listened to community feedback and never got butthurt over the (((problematic speech))) of the male dominated and (((rayciss))) community that calls each other gooks all day. I approve of that.
>>15785610
So buy it from a key reseller, RS2 is 3.60€ on Kinguin. That's what I did.
>hates SJWs
>wants to support titanfall
You really are fucking braindead, jump off a bridge.
>>15785624
>xonotic
>quake 3
Nigger, what? Xonotic is nothing like Quake 3. Xon has CPMA movement, autohop instead of jump buffering and fucktarded weapons.
5f6b9e No.15785668
>>15785646
>I don't want to support a company
>So I play their games and help build a community around their games
>I viral market their games on image boards to grow that community
Is this why you come to a website run by a jew like this one? Do you even have a foreskin?
>Grinding for 70 hours is fine
Get in the skinner box goy. You have to play at least 60 hours before you can handle a gun.
780e4c No.15785698
>>15785668
RS2 is 5 dollars on a key reselling site where the devs get no money.
Stop being autistic
21106b No.15785707
>>15785646
>70 hours
>>>>>>>
When I want to play something like Tribes, I want to jump in, go fast, and then stop without having to grind for who knows how fucking long. There was a lot of bullshit locked away behind that in Ascend, but at least they gave you a light, medium and heavy from the start.
Also the game runs way worse than Tribes: Ascend did way back when. And it looks way, way shittier. That's just inexcusable.
5f6b9e No.15785720
>>15785698
Why are you such a little Jew? Every time you're called on your shit you just weasel your way into a different argument that fails just as hard.
You have no one but yourself to blame when you start getting tranny gooks in your WW2 games.
780e4c No.15785728
>>15785720
>retard can't even into IDs
>nonsensical rambling with not a single argument
Ok, stay mad and autistic then
e5a3c4 No.15785729
>>15785646
>You really are fucking braindead, jump off a bridge.
I told him to get a key from someone else you single-digit IQ fucking literal monkey.
5f6b9e No.15785750
>>15785728
One retard, Two retards. Same thing.
cba8bf No.15785754
>>15785668
>>Grinding for 70 hours is fine
I didn't say it is, it's lame that it's the case but liking Tribes Ascend but shitting on Midair for grind is such a fucking absurd double standard, considering T:A had like >500 hours worth of grind for everything. Considering half the niggers on this board play Rainbow Six Siege which has >150 hours of grind for all gameplay unlocks when the game is paid for or Warframe which is just insane on the grind, shitting on Midair for a basic 30$ for all gameplay unlocks or grind for 50-80 hours system feels really, really hypocritical.
>>15785707
>When I want to play something like Tribes, I want to jump in, go fast, and then stop without having to grind for who knows how fucking long. There was a lot of bullshit locked away behind that in Ascend, but at least they gave you a light, medium and heavy from the start.
Yeah, and the classes it gave you were arguably the worst and the grind you had to do for getting a single weapon or class is way worse than getting basically all the meta gear in Midair. It also helps that the most popular mode in Midair is LCTF, and getting boost+grenade launcher takes you like one or two games and you have chain+disc unlocked by default, which gives you the best meta gear in the game that every player worth his salt uses.
>>15785720
>Why are you such a little Jew? Every time you're called on your shit you just weasel your way into a different argument that fails just as hard.
Don't act like you won anything by calling TWI SJW once. Once more, neck yourself.
>>15785729
Yeah, and so did I, dumbfuck. But by his same (non-)argument:
>I don't want to support a company
>So I play their games and help build a community around their games
>I viral market their games on image boards to grow that community
cee406 No.15785771
>>15785610
>Well this is /v/ so you're all too retarded to do a simple online search for the SJW shit Tripwire spew all through out Killing floor 2 interviews.
>Killing Floor 2
>A game from fucking 2009.
>You didn’t bother researching dev interviews from a 10 year old game so everyone in /v/ is a retard.
Go home GI.
5f6b9e No.15785780
>>15785754
>D-Don't shit on my bing bing wahoos! It's fine to waste 70 hours of your life unlocking things! My wife's boyfriend gives me lots of free time!
<Still white knighting a company that hates you
You're incredibly pathetic. You grind so you can escape reality because you can't achieve anything in the real world.
>>15785771
>Initial release date: 18 November 2016
Yes. 2009. Why are you so retarded? Is it playing video games?
e82f64 No.15785790
>>15785771
>KF2
>2009
You are clueless. Anyway, you faggots all need to stop supporting these shitty companies and their SJW-friendly games. That includes buying keys and keeping the games alive. Play some good games instead you fuckwits.
21106b No.15785796
>>15785790
>play some good games
too bad they don't exist
92ef5b No.15785829
>>15784859
Titanfall 2.
Playerbase isn't as thriving as it once was, but there are still plenty enough to get games without waiting forever, especially in peak hours. There are also coop defend-the-objective-against-waves-of-enemies modes too, which are also pretty great and more comfortable to allow you to get a better handle on the game mechanics.
Also the campaign is fucking great, which I wasn't expecting at all and apparently nobody else was either.
5f6b9e No.15785834
>>15785796
>Anime poster doesn't know about good games
Who saw that coming?
>>15785829
Why did Horde mode die as a concept? It's a damn good mode.
1475dc No.15785838
>>15784859
>I loved the original CS
Yeah I'm the same, when GO came out I got bored with CS, played Source all the time but it got really stale. I've tried GO but just can't get back into it
8091f4 No.15785847
>>15785646
https://store.steampowered.com//eula/232090_eula_0
Killing Floor 2's EULA.
>being totally unaware of what Tripwire has done to the Red Orchestra community
21106b No.15785849
>>15785834
>too dumb to get a joke
reconsider your life choices
92ef5b No.15785879
>>15785834
>Why did Horde mode die as a concept? It's a damn good mode.
Agreed. It's the reason I have so many hours in Killing Floor. I'd probably have plenty in KF2 as well if the devs weren't full on faggots and John wasn't as ridiculously flaming arrogant and insufferable as one person can possibly get, but that's offtopic.
Harvester Defense is one of the primary reasons I keep playing Titanfall 2 in fact. I'd play more PvP than I do, but unfortunately for me the single most played mode for comp is the one I like the absolute least, so if I want to fight other players I'm stuck waiting for my specific flavor.
5f6b9e No.15785882
>>15785838
CS got stale a decade ago but Valve are such commies that they can't create anything any more. It's just a high tech playground for autists to work on pet projects they never had to deliver on.
And now the modding community is dead (outside of horse anuses) so Valve can't even buy up good mods and sell them.
491c7f No.15785895
>>15785834
shes not from an anime :^)
cba8bf No.15786015
>>15785847
>>being totally unaware of what Tripwire has done to the Red Orchestra community
I'm not. I am well aware of it.
The thing with EULAs is that they are never acted on and Killing Floor 2 is irrelevant to Rising Storm 2. I believe that studios too have the chance to redeem themselves from their past fuck ups, and since Killing Floor 2 has shown itself to be the money making machine of TWI the faggots up top who fucked up RO2 are now focusing on it instead of RS2.
14cad5 No.15786022
>>15785565
You just described Tribes Ascend
f32891 No.15786027
>>15784630
>that gibbed foot flying at the player and getting stuck in the fence
that's pretty cool,and it appears that female representation in the game has just made it a gurofags paradise. I'll keep an eye on this because I want a new shooter to play other than siege
8091f4 No.15786059
>>15786015
You are still giving money to the faggots up top if you purchase a Tripwire game.
>being aware but still giving them money
You are condoning their faggotry.
5f6b9e No.15786244
>Time to pay the goys who made the games
>Killing Floor earned $8
>RO earned $12
>Well we have 10 employees who all need paying
>5 worked on each
>Guess everyone on RO is getting $2.50 each
>Who on KF2 isn't getting paid this week?
This is how retarded your idea of economies is. For years Sony has run multiple failing departments based on money the gaming side of things make. The reason they could keep making shit like ghostbusters is the gaming market made up for the movie market failing. You are directly funding the things you say are bad because you can't give up on your cummies for five minutes and play something non-pozzed.
7fc842 No.15786253
>>15783466
>So here’s the question, are there any multiplayer FPS games right now that are actually good AND have a healthy consistent online life to them.
I'm going to assume you mean on the PC since i don't think most people like FPS's on the consoles. So all of this info will be for the PC and PC player base activity.
>Anything on Source.
Source is basically your goto unless you're some hipster who still wants to mess around on the Quake Engine. :^)
Source Games tend to have big damage guns that are hitscan. (Breddy fucking satisfying)
CS:GO has a short time to kill. The Insurgency 1 has short times to kill. Even in TF2 all the vanilla classes have a gun that can 2-3 shot kill a medic or pyro.
Titanfall 2 is IMO the best FPS ever made on source but it's stuck in EA's ecosystem. Thus the player count on Titanfall 2 is in the shitter and no community maps for you. I would pirate it for the campaign though.
>Anything on Unreal Engine
I usually stay away from FPS's using this engine. Shooting just feel's wacky on this engine. There's far more third person shooters on this engine than first person shooters.
The only popular game that could be considered "FPS" on this engine is PUBG and the shooting in that game is complete ass.
This is also why you should stay away from Insurgency Sandstorm as it uses this engine and has footsoldier wahmen running around shouting.
>Rainbow 6 and Overwatch.
Overwatch is a joke, ability spam up the ass, and weapons that do about as much damage as NERF guns. Since it's a MOBA in disguise every update it turns more and more into SMITE, except SMITE is free and does Hero vs Hero better than Overwatch.
Rainbow 6 is… ok. It has the same ability spam problems as above but at least it has quick time to kill. It has a stupid cycle were they will give the new Operators OP guns to entice you to buy the DLC's that drop every month.
Then after the DLC has run it's course they'll nerf the gun down to what it should have been in the first place. For example the newest operator has a pistol that can literally one shot across the map, it will be this way for a while, then they'll nerf it once all the sweaty brazilians have gone and bought the DLC.
>Rising Storm 2 and Arma 3.
These two are the go to when it comes to mil-sim right now. Mil-Sim is probably not what your looking for competitive-wise but I'll list these anyways because I've had the most fun on these two games
Arma 3 has customization par none. The catch? Heavy and demanding CPU usage with input delay that will make an FPS vet nauseous. Very fun for events though.
Rising Storm 2 is like if Battlefield and Arma had an austic baby together. Set in the Vietnam War, it's mods are only custom maps. Probably the most played FPS by Aussie shitposters since you actually get to play as Australia in that game. Also /v/ hates the devs for whatever reason.
>Tarkov.
Bad game. Not a competitive game at all. Stay the fuck away.
Has levels of pay to win scam-ery that earn Star Citizen's approval. Devs are crooks and LARPing as STALKER devs just because they are Russian. Game becomes more unstable as the updates role out, Servers must be fucking 0.5 tick. This game is a Jew disguised as a mil-sim, not even the weapon customizing saves it in my book.
If you want to get a good idea of what this game is like then think of ARK, but where your amount of dinos are capped and you have to pay 100 dollars for the "super duper special edition" in order to be able to tame more dinos.
>Battlefield 5
Dead on arrival and killed EA's stocks in the process.
>Activision shit
I've heard Black Ops 4 zombies seems alright. Never was my thing though.
I tried Destiny 2's shooting and it was pretty fluid, if a bit mindless. Tragically enough, even though Destiny's PVP is shit, this will probably be the FPS with the most consistent player base considering it's an MMO.
7fc842 No.15786283
>>15786244
Isn't buying non-pozzed games the generally idea?
If you were to buy a non-pozzed game what is there to lose other than your money?
You say to the developer "Hey i like this game, this is a non-pozzed game."
If you give them that money and they go be retarded with it and use the money to go fund a pozzed game, then don't buy that next game.
No need to be so Calvinistic about things.
5f6b9e No.15786291
>>15786283
Because you're not living in a world where sane economics applies. They don't care which game you buy, they will make the projects they want to make.
e5a3c4 No.15786297
>>15786253
Imagine being this fucking retarded. Tarkov is pretty much the gold standard when it comes to weapons.
Sure. it runs like shit and the servers are fucked, but the updates are common, the devs listen to the forums (maybe they listen too much at times) and the game is getting better with every update.
>Not a competitive game at all
Who the fuck plays games just to "compete", retard? If you want to compete then go play like an idiot on the upcoming arena mode which was made exactly for the type of mouthbreathing retard player like you.
>levels of pay to win scam-ery that earn Star Citizen's approval
Now it's even more obvious that all you know about this game comes from retards and you never actually played it. What fucking pay-to-win? The extra inventory slots that will be irrelevant with the hideout update or the "extra gear" which is trash?
> Devs are crooks and LARPing as STALKER devs just because they are Russian
They never claimed to be Stalker devs you lying retard, that's just something the average shitty western gaymen site put on their articles for clickbait.
Play the fucking games before you tell others what they are like, faggot. If I listened to people here every single time I wouldn't play any game because you shit on fucking anything that has ever released.
cba8bf No.15786317
>>15786291
Except Tripwire and other small studios of the sort don't have such luxuries and if they don't keep appealing to their primary crowd of PC FPS players they will die.
5f6b9e No.15786353
>>15786317
Except you can see all the retards in this thread who are happy to buy their shit no matter what they do.
12c186 No.15786357
>>15785418
>recommending TFC over Fortress Forever or even TF2
4bbbf0 No.15786376
Multiplayer FPS communities are cancerous as shit these days.
5f6b9e No.15786381
>>15786357
I had constant sync errors with fortress forever so I can't recommend it.
TF2 is unplayable in it's current state and it's not the same game TFC is. The entire speed of the game is different. The pacing is very different and the maps are very different.
TFC is a good game. The others aren't.
12c186 No.15786421
>>15786381
>TFC is a good game
spamming grenades down chokepoints is not good design
7fc842 No.15786450
>>15786297
I will now proceed to deconstruct your post in it's entirety.
>Tarkov is pretty much the gold standard when it comes to weapons.
There are a lot of other games that come close. WW3 being one that comes to mind.
None of the weapon customization even matters though if you have a laggy, buggy game that has as many glitches and hackers as Fallout 76. It was a stable game at launch, much more stable.
>Sure. it runs like shit and the servers are fucked, but the updates are common, the devs listen to the forums
>the devs listen to the forums
lol no.
>the game is getting better with every update.
Big nope.
>Who the fuck plays games just to "compete", retard?
OP wants a competitive game, try reading the thread.
>What fucking pay-to-win? The extra inventory slots that will be irrelevant with the hideout update or the "extra gear" which is trash?
The Hideout update that was announced last summer and still hasn't shown up? Yeah i'm sure they'll get around to it eventually… Also vid related.
>They never claimed to be Stalker devs you lying retard, that's just something the average shitty western gaymen site put on their articles for clickbait.
They weren't LARPing per-say, but when people are coming over on /v/ and /vg/ saying "STALKER this and STALKER" that it's pretty much the same deal. The Dev's probably weren't tuned
>Play the fucking games before you tell others what they are like, faggot. If I listened to people here every single time I wouldn't play any game because you shit on fucking anything that has ever released.
There were plenty of other games I mentioned in my post, you just zoned in on Tarkov.
Also I forgot to mention, like Star Shecklezin and Failout 76 the game has a cult of fanboy's who will defend it to the death.
7fc842 No.15786458
>>15786450
>The Dev's probably weren't tuned
The Dev's probably weren't tuned in to see what westerners were saying about them, but that doesn't change the fact that the were riding on the coat-tails of Stalker for a long time.
5f6b9e No.15786597
>>15786421
Never said it was. Would be a shame if grenades were limited then wouldn't it?
e5a3c4 No.15786611
>>15786450
>I will now proceed to deconstruct your post in it's entirety.
<all he does is just say "no" to all my claims
<uploads an .mp4 to somehow try and make an argument
<Thinks WW3 with it's garbage ballistics, fake guns and barebones customization comes even close to Tarkov's gun autism
Faggot.
4c0804 No.15786854
>>15783466
Halo Online
Zenotic
Neo Tokyo more active on fridays
Battlefield V :^)
b31484 No.15786975
>>15786015
>The thing with EULAs is that they are never acted on
This is a fucking retarded thing to say. Whether or not they choose to act on it, the shitty EULA from Tripwire should turn you off from their games for two reasons:
1. It shows the type of people who work there, and what they believe in;
2. It sets a precedent that this sort of EULA is acceptable. Even if Tripwire decides not to enforce it, another studio might copy it for their own EULA and enforce it in their own games.
The slippery slope is a real fucking thing and as a consumer you should be throwing a goddamn fit every time something like this happens.
96433f No.15787180
>tfw you finally realize that due to over saturation all the competitive games you’d want to play are dead and all the new ones are either to hardcore sim, hero shooters, or battle royales
All I want are some solid arena or arcade shooters and they are all dead as fuck.
5fc241 No.15787311
>>15785571
I've seen that reaction image and filename before
cc3041 No.15787340
>>15786975
>The slippery slope is a real fucking thing
1. Yes, it is real and it is fallacy;
2. For it to be "real" you need someone acting upon it to prove the threat, and you haven't provided any evidence of that;
3. KF2 is steam exclusive, and steam doesn't have a respectable eula either, so are you a hypocrite or not interested enough in vidya to understand that some trades have to be made.
>you should be throwing a goddamn fit
Being principled and throwing a fit are two entirely different concepts, both of which being equally ineffective on a macro scale though, but you are still a retard for recommending the latter one.
>It shows the type of people who work there, and what they believe in
I bet 100$ that you don't know what exactly people in TWi believe in and what their political affiliation is.
>>15785879
>I'd probably have plenty in KF2 as well if the devs weren't full on faggots and John wasn't as ridiculously flaming arrogant and insufferable as one person can possibly get
If you didn't refund it, you are an idiot.
be8337 No.15787689
92ef5b No.15788488
>>15787340
"I'd probably have" as in "if I had the game." Duh.
1bce03 No.15788879
Not necessarily "populated", but I always come back to these ones and find enough players to get decent matches:
>CS 1.6/GO (1.6 for fast pubs, GO for 5v5 matchmaking)
>Quake Live (unfortunately most people only play clan arena and instagib)
>Halo 2 Project Cartographer (plays well on a controller, and you can even split screen and play together online)
>Battlefield 2 + mods like Forgotten Hope 2 and Project Reality (you need BF2Hub to play vanilla)
>Squad (still early access but it has a lot of potential)
>Titanfall 2 (would be much better if it didn't share half of its dna with cod, but it's still a lot of fun)
b0ee77 No.15789227
Destiny 2 is 8.5 out of 10 right now
Gotta keep paying 30 bucks every 6 months tho
Meh
b271a1 No.15789244
>>15785417
>giving money to EA
Good goy.
d16c26 No.15789254
>>15787340
Slippery slope isn't a fallacy, it's a perfect representation of what happens in reality.
cc3041 No.15789327
>>15789254
So that's why you didn't come up with an example to prove your point, I see!
Also, I'm pretty sure that even the other guy would agree that you are being fallacious, because even he had enough sense to put "might" in his sequence of events.
42353e No.15789363
I used to play Darkest Hour and DoD source back in 2016. Darkest Hour was still pretty healthy and didn't have stupid updates put out monthly. DoD source I got bored after 200 hours, it still has a decent community I'm only really interested in WW2 games, *raughs*
d7e599 No.15797488
>>15788879
>>Squad (still early access but it has a lot of potential)
Haven't played that one in a while. It was still pretty barebones but I enjoyed it. Shame they kept the retarded server policy they had for Project Reality.
976534 No.15798301
>>15784575
Can you actually play multiplayer on a cracked copy of Arma 3 or the other games you mentioned? Is Arma 2 dead?
59fe43 No.15798304
>>15783466
This is why I got over these online shooters years ago. It became clear to me they had a max shelf life of 1 year at best with very few exceptions. Most in fact don't even make it a year with a healthy population. These shooters should have communities around them that thrive for many years on release. Instead they are total cash grabs that are replaced by the next dozen.
dd514d No.15798319
>>15785511
>Move to fightan games instead.
What if I don't like autistic fat spics, smelly hyper aggressive sore-loser niggers, and programmed input delays?
000000 No.15798627
>>15783466
Quake 3 Arena, Unreal Tournament series.
I like UT 2k4 tbh. I believe that's heresy to some fans of older UTs though. Latest UT is fucking trash though. They fucking ruined a lot of mobility.
b271a1 No.15798669
cba8bf No.15798920
>>15798301
Some multiplayer cracks have been made IIRC but they are usually infested with Russian cheaters and really are not worth playing in at all.
>>15798627
<Quake 3 Arena, Unreal Tournament series.
>decent playerbase
I doubt you even play those games. See pic related, I didn't like the guy but he was dead fucking on about shit like this.
d72df1 No.15798929
>>15798920
>UT4 will never be completed because of Fortnite
Still fucking pissed about that.
80ffe7 No.15798964
80ffe7 No.15798972
>>15785511
>Multiplayer FPS is dead
>Play something even more dead
6edbfb No.15798976
>>15798929
thats what you get for not playing your arena shooter
976534 No.15798979
>>15798920
What about Arma 2? It's on GOG so I assume the mp servers would be fine.
cba8bf No.15798984
>>15798979
Uses CD keys and the multiplayer is dead.
d72df1 No.15798993
>>15798976
It was an obsession for a while. I stopped because Epic stopped updating it.
522a13 No.15799005
>>15786421
Is that why there's a whole class designed around doing just that and basically nothing else in Team Fortress 2?
976534 No.15799141
>>15798984
Why CD keys? What's wrong with the gog version? Is the dayz mod still active?
cba8bf No.15799152
>>15799141
It uses CD keys to prevent people from playing multiplayer with a pirated copy. Just like Mount and Blade Warband.
DayZ mod is largely dead nowadays. I don't believe it's available for the GOG version either.
976534 No.15799250
>>15799152
Can you use cd keys when using a cracked copy of Arma 3/ DayZ to play online?
976534 No.15799447
>>15799152
Also I believe the dayz mod does work with the gog version. You can use bots using the map editor.
https://www.gog.com/forum/arma_series/arma_2_co_dayz
151ca5 No.15799538
>>15786611
Ah yes, EFT's ballistics are so realistic. I love how the slugs take 16 hits to the head to kill someone. On top of that, shitty netcode and sub 60 FPS on a 1080 system to really immerse me. It's literally a better STALKER
caaff6 No.15802954
>>15785511
sf5 is a pretty shitty game
Soul Calibur 6 online is a joke with the custom characters being allowed in ranked
Tekken is good
I bet nobody plays KOF
Everything else is total dogshit tier
caaff6 No.15803030
>>15784859
Over the course of a year Ubisoft has broken the game 3 times. I have a feeling they will continue to break the game further with every season. Not to mention the fact that the devs themselves are actually retarded. They introduced the most broken character in the games history this year made an excuse said "Oh it's because he was only designed for the PVE gamemode"(obviously lie to cover up incompetency and to excuse themselves for being fucking retarded) then they came up with an alternate lie that "Oh he was designed this way because X players don't like using their microphone"(whatever the fuck this means noone knows just another excuse to cover up for the fact that the developers don't understand the higher levels of play fuck they don't even understand gold level play) It's becoming more of an actual hero shooter at the higher levels with insane risk/reward gameplay. On defense there is so much dumb shit going on in the game at the higher levels that the meta is basically "Survive." Then add in the fact that say you don't want to try hard and just want to play casual well casual is broken you can't pick sites and you are forced to play all the old broken maps that lack proper rotation routes and are further broken by operators added to the game long after said map was released.
The easy way to fix the game is to stop creating dumb operators with dumb gagdets and just keep creating "clone" operators. IQ/Thatcher= Non game breaking anti defender gadget ops. Hibana/Thermite= Not broken hard destruction ops
Buck/Zofia/Ash/Sledge= Non broken soft destruction ops
Lion/Finka/Jackal/Clash/Maverick/Tachanka/Blitz etc. etc. etc.= Joke or Broken ops that exist to underperform or ruin the fundamentals of the game.
caaff6 No.15803091
>>15798964
He's dead and he's still wrong. People want an arena shooter the people are dying for a new game idealized beyond what we have already played in the past. The people want something more perfect than perfect instead of all those gutter trash "awena soooters" he listed off.
f32891 No.15803183
>>15803030
>and just keep creating "clone" operators
they've had a few good non-clones like echo and Caveira but I mostly agree, at this point i'd rather see more maps or more universal gadgets like the static cameras than new operators since they're stuck on designs
>ion/Finka/Jackal/Clash/Maverick/Tachanka/Blitz etc. etc. etc.= Joke or Broken ops that exist to underperform or ruin the fundamentals of the game.
>maverick
nah maverick is great, I overall like his design and gadget and anyone who thinks it's too quiet doesn't play with headphones on you can hear it from 2-3 rooms away half the time
>tachanka
less of a joke/broken and just a cast of lack of foresight of how the game was going to end up working once players got their hands on it i feel
caaff6 No.15803217
>>15803183
>nah maverick is great, I overall like his design and gadget and anyone who thinks it's too quiet doesn't play with headphones on you can hear it from 2-3 rooms away half the time
The problem with maverick is not that you can't hear it it's that he can destroy an entire reinforced wall even if it's muted/batteried with his blowtorch. There is a glitch and once again once someone finds out about it it's fucking everywhere.
f32891 No.15803257
>>15803217
>it's that he can destroy an entire reinforced wall even if it's muted/batteried with his blowtorch
that's the point though isn't it? he can ignore mute/bandit but can work around that, making him an alternative to thatcher or twitch when it comes to reinforced gadget breaking, and breaking a hole big enough for people to enter as maverick is too slow compared to hibana and thermite and it's mostly for sneaky peeks
caaff6 No.15803280
>>15803257
No no no you seem to misunderstand my point. Look up maverick glitch. So by himself without even destroying the bandit/mute jammers he can just destroy an entire reinforcement, said reinforcement disappears and the soft wall is left over just look up the maverick glitch on the internet. It's just another example of new gadgets unintentionally ruining this game. It's not as game breaking as lion or anything but it's still just one more fucking thing.
f32891 No.15803289
>>15803280
>No no no you seem to misunderstand my point.
you're right, my bad. Strangely enough I haven't seen the glitch myself or heard of it till now even though I play this game a lot
1cb210 No.15803341
R6 Siege would be great if it wasn't maintained by Ubi
caaff6 No.15803342
>>15803289
It's just one of those things that you don't even realize is happening until you research it. Just like the shield glitch that was going around earlier this year but this one is a bit sneakier because what ends up happening is "How the fuck did they get in so fast? oh well *BANG BANG BANG*"
caaff6 No.15803378
>>15803341
yea ubi seems to be trying to please everyone instead of trying to please the people who keep this game alive(the people in gold-high platinum levels)
They care too much what the pros think of the game and also go far too out of their way to cater to people who are mechanically retarded essentially making the game a broken shitfest where nobody is really happy unless they are winning and even then it's bittersweet. There are too many gamemodes and what I mean by this is Secure area is just a broken game mode with the new ops casual ranked esl etc. it's a joke now, Bomb is the only game mode that's somewhat legitimate but in ESL you get to know what operators you are going up against so you know what type of cancer to expect not so with standard casual/ranked play that everyone is used to. There are too many sub communities within the R6 playerbase and the game has devolved into "Just run around and survive and try to get kills" There is no meta or gamesense when every game is totally fucking random with the offense or defense running a totally new random defense strategy every game you are in. When you go up against a really high level 5 man of platinum players they have like a dozen or so round winning pocket strats that are just based around operator picks and quick planting or other methods of stealing undeserved rounds.
f32891 No.15803401
>>15803378
>yea ubi seems to be trying to please everyone instead of trying to please the people who keep this game alive
listening to reddit knuckledraggers has lead to some of the worst buffs/nerfs, especially the twitch ammo nerf which took a previously valuable operator and sent her to the bullpen and forces thatcher to work even harder
1cb210 No.15803420
>>15803378
The biggest problem I see is the DLC OP's with insane power creep and OP's that shouldn't be in the game. Zofia's gadget is just a better version of Ash. Clash was somewhat a better version of monty, Blackbeard makes absolutely no fucking sense, (an operator that breaks the games most important mechanic, 1 tap head shot) The 2 new operators specifically the bitch with the force gun looks absolutely broken. They also nerfed the SMG-11 and 12 because people were using them as primaries. Meanwhile the 2 new ops get retarded as fuck secondaries that have the best sight in the game and arguably one of the best guns in the game. Blitz makes absolutely no fucking sense at all. The whole point of shield ops is to distract and take fire (like monty), blitz is just some retarded faggot running around flashing people with insane movespeed that hasn't been nerfed because shit players can use him to climb to gold or higher.
And then you have all the technical and network bugs that they don't seem to give a fuck about. Here's how you fix the game just with operators:
Remove Blackbeard, Lion, Blitz, Clash, Dokk, Finka and maybe Cav and you have a way more balanced game. The problem with the game, and most modern competitive games, is they try to lessen the skill gap between all of the players, so some shitter on reddit can get some kills without crying to ubisoft. So they can use Blackbeard and Blitz and get some kills. This decision making single handily is killing the game. There should be a mode with just rookie vs rookie, no gadgets other than C4 etc. I would play the shit out of that game mode.
caaff6 No.15803421
>>15803401
I think the machine pistol nerf was probably the most disgusting thing Ubi ever did when it came to listening to reddit. "Yea let's just totally break one of the hardest to play defensive ops that's also a main component of defense and cut his legs off because the smg12 is op"
Nobody had a problem with the smg12 they could of just removed it from dokkaebis loadout and it would of been a non issue. Now it's just like "Yea now hibana and smoke suffer" Just remove secondary smgs from echo's loadout dokkaebi's loadout(bar the cz I guess nobody cares now that all vigil players and dokkaebi players frag out with the CZ that's fine as long as it's not an smg 12…..These developers are retarded)
The smg nerf just proves that they don't understand their own game. "Hey let's ruin one of the guns that is a staple of every smoke players entire lifecycle that sounds fine right??"
1cb210 No.15803429
>>15803401
Game devs listening to reddit help killed Dota 2, and probably countless other games. I have no fucking clue why Devs put reddit on a pedestal as if they fucking represent the entire community. They listen to reddit more then their own forums it's fucking mind boggling how much influence that cum dumpster of a site has.
1cb210 No.15803434
>>15803421
Playing smoke with Shotgun+SMG-11 was my favorite thing to do in the game. Now I might as well bring a fucking pistol because they nerfed it to the fucking ground. It also makes no sense because the 2 new ops receive this fucking god hand of a secondary with an acog that does something like 74 fucking dmg with a decent rate of fire.
f32891 No.15803435
>>15803420
>There should be a mode with just rookie vs rookie, no gadgets other than C4 etc.
defense would have a massive advantage unless you removed reinforcements as well
>>15803421
>"Hey let's ruin one of the guns that is a staple of every smoke players entire lifecycle that sounds fine right??"
they are buffing SMG-11 (just a damage boost) and giving it to mute next week but it is frustrating, I loved doing shotgun/SMG creeping around as smoke.
1cb210 No.15803445
>>15803435
Then they can balance it by not having acgos on attack, or something like that. Anything is better then Dokk calling you with a lion scan and breaking black beards shield when it should have been a kill. They keep making the game frustrating to play with those op's+ clash. Why the fuck would you make a game frustrating to play? I have to wonder if the design team has radically changed since the games inception, and I'm guessing it probably has.
caaff6 No.15803452
>>15803429
because companies like ubi don't care about the long term especially when it comes to siege. They probably actually see siege as a burden unto themselves(they think they have to keep creating content over and over especially the completely new totally halfassed operators they are adding to the game in a week). They already made their gigantic cashflow from gamesales of the thing they don't care if people keep playing it or if it's balanced or anything. The philosophy appears to be "Just please the retards keep them buying and playing and when they all disappear fuck it we are already developing 3 new games for this fiscal year I mean fuck the siege players I mean they don't dump enough monies into cosmetics for us to actually fix this fucking mess"
>>15803420
Zofia doesn't have the same fragging ability as ash though. 3 speed with one of the best guns in the game is alot different from zofia who you play a bit more carefully(because you are a giant slow target in comparison)
Blackbeard will always be broken blitz will always be a fucking abomination that needs to be deleted.
>>15803445
Dokkaebi can be substituted with jackal if you are running lion for more frag power. Most people actually don't even realize how top tier jackal actually is in this game. He has an ability that makes 1 defensive player totally fucking useless for an entire round(assuming he doesn't tag an anchor) and he has a shotgun for soft destruction, one of the best assault rifles in the entire game with little to no recoil, and smoke grenades for planting/nullifying mira windows and rotations. I find him much more useful than dokkaebi.
f32891 No.15803459
>>15803452
>Most people actually don't even realize how top tier jackal actually is in this game.
I like Jackal but I've always been surprised how few realize how strong he is, especially if the player is smart and holds on to a use or two for the final push to fuck up anchors
1cb210 No.15803468
>>15803452
>Zofia doesn't have the same fragging ability as ash though
I agree. The gadget though is a better version of ash, and that was the power-creep I was talking about. The un-originality with gadgets along with stupid fucking shit like Lion+Dokki+Finka's gadgets are all gadgets you can use almost instantly without having to take risk.
Jackal is another broken operator as well. Almost no risk using his gadget other then staring at the ground for a second and then you magically see where an op is. Out of all the OP's, the DLC ones are all broken as hell. I can't think of a single non-DLC op other then Blitz that breaks the game as much as all of these DLC ops. And of course it's a classic P2W model. Release a broken as shit operator, reddit complains, op gets nerfed, and then slowly gets shadow buffed and is still OP as fuck. Blitz for example, got a 10% movespeed increase a couple of patches ago and it wasn't even on the fucking main dev change blog post.
f32891 No.15803472
>>15803452
>. The philosophy appears to be "Just please the retards keep them buying and playing and when they all disappear fuck it
this is the strangest thing because ubi actually salvaged the game from its shitty launch and had a fairly strong year 1
caaff6 No.15803475
>>15803472
The thing is they had a huge boom this year in terms of playercount and now that the playcount is dwindling and has actually dropped by 20K players in less than 2 months they are just going to get lazier and lazier. They salvaged the game to make it profitable(also it's not a good thing is a game named Rainbow Six falls flat on it's ass this is a decorated series), but after they made all their returns they just went back to fucking everything up and not really giving a shit about the decisions they make. Every patch and every season the game further deviates from what it was originally and operator ideas become either totally game breaking or scrub tier shit.
1cb210 No.15803480
>>15803472
It seems like they have no long term goals with the game, similar to mobile game devs that can print out a money making machine and then everyone forgets about it. I think more and more developers are turning to the mobile game philosophy. This was evident with the release of diablo immortal and most of the short sighted design decisions in games like Rainbow Six siege where there seems to be no long term goals. Blackbeard to me is one of those short sighted decisions that was made in 5 seconds by some retarded corporate faggot that thought it would be a good idea. He single handily destroys the fucking game and only a person who dosen't play the game would ever think to release him.
caaff6 No.15803487
>>15803480
> Blackbeard to me is one of those short sighted decisions that was made in 5 seconds by some retarded corporate faggot that thought it would be a good idea
Lion and Finka could go in there 2. No thought put behind their designs or effort. Totally retarded season btw and even though they nerfed these characters they are still at the end of the day broken pieces of shit. Finka AKA I have no skill but I must frag, Press button use LMG spray and pray until something dies, repeat
Lion I might have skill but I must win, drone out, press button push, kill, plant, push button win, repeat
f32891 No.15803492
>>15803468
>I can't think of a single non-DLC op other then Blitz that breaks the game as much as all of these DLC ops
buck, frost, and hibana were all strong additions
caaff6 No.15803503
>>15803492
There are plenty of dlc ops like capitao and the ones you mentioned that add to the game. There are just too many dlc ops that are pointless or totally broken or pretty OP. I wish they would just take a year off of adding to this game and just balance the game.
f32891 No.15803521
>>15803503
> I wish they would just take a year off of adding to this game and just balance the game.
even like 6 months and axe a season pass but you know ubi wouldn't risk that. I'd still like more maps and universal gadgets more than anything now, I'm actually glad they brought favella and yacht back to casual as well. I primarily play casual anyway because I strangely enjoy the random objectives
caaff6 No.15803524
>>15803492
I would like to add that I think the ranking system is totally fucking broken. As a player I don't play with 5 mans that often(have a job time doesn't sync with people I play with so often I'm just with 1 or 2 other people) but it makes no sense how a player like me could get ranked into gold or silver every season and easily hit platinum and then derank or rank up and just get stuck in this weird gold1 platinum hell that never ends. It just feels like whenever I hit the "Start Match" button I'm entering a slot machine. Last year it wasn't like this because less dlc ops. Now I play the game and I just feel like I'm gambling not playing a game. They have to stop placing people in gold immediately. You shouldn't be able to place gold at all. You should always be placed in at the highest silver. There are just way too many times I jump into a ranked match only to look up someones stats and they magically placed in gold and are playing in gold level games even if they have the gamesense of a retarded person who doesn't know the difference between bomb and secure area(because this game is so fucking random anyone can be placed in gold therefore I'm forced to play with them in ranked even if they fucking suck and even after I get into plat I'm still playing against or with these fucking people)
19acff No.15803529
There was one. Rest in peace sweet prince.
86ca92 No.15803532
>>15784630
Insurgency sandstorm is like a dumbed down insurgency with some minor improved elements.
The fact that TTK is reduced and not similar to the low TTK nature of the previous game and RS2 just makes it a shit version of BF Hardcore.
Also the devs have been damage control lately with sandstorm owners demanding answers.
I can see why you can disprove Tarkov since the devs are dicks
caaff6 No.15803538
>>15803532
Haven't played it how is it dumbed down and how do they reduce the ttk when it's basically 1-2 shot death?
f32891 No.15803547
>>15803524
almost all ranking systems are fucking garbage, again its why i rarely bother with ranked in siege, especially funny when some kid will bitch that I'm unranked but hit bottom of scoreboard anyway
>There are plenty of dlc ops like capitao and the ones you mentioned that add to the game.
forgot to mention I would actually like to see Cap buffed, but he suffers from that case of being a 3speed with shit breaching options so he's a less than ideal pick on most maps and his gadget is still wonky and vague in its effective radius, he should be a fantastic anchor-buster but it rarely works out
caaff6 No.15803559
>>15803547
>forgot to mention I would actually like to see Cap buffed, but he suffers from that case of being a 3speed with shit breaching options so he's a less than ideal pick on most maps and his gadget is still wonky and vague in its effective radius, he should be a fantastic anchor-buster but it rarely works out
I think that was his original intention and that's the way I used to play him(try to firebolt or shoot anchors and use smokes to cover problem areas) but really it's not practical so now I just use him as a designated plant character smokes that can't be stopped by ADS firebolts to deny flanks and characters moving in whilst you plant and 3 speed so he makes little to no noise, the gun had a recoil buff so it's not as bad as it used to be and it hits hard as fuck so really it's bad because of it's pathetic firerate and bizarre recoil pattern but it's not the worst thing on attack but it's pretty close to being the worst gun on attack.
b6e8e0 No.15803562
>>15784630
So what if Tarkov is perma beta? At least they're honest about it, unlike all the unfinished "final build" dogshit that streams out anymore. Tarkov is great and only getting better. Adrenaline-pumping encounters, bad ass gunplay, rad mod system, and the devs at least attempt to implement fresh takes and features to the long standardized FPS genre. Sometimes they don't work out so well, but if it's really shit they roll it back and try something else. Sure, they're amateurs, but they've got balls and an uncompromising attitude that a lot of players find refreshing. If they had Jewish big publisher budgets, the game would be full of pozzed trannies, niggers playing rap over proximity VoIP, and premium ingame currency microtransaction based modding and cosmetics.
These days, you choose a side: "polished" but shallow pozfests from EABLIZZARDACTIVISIONBETHESDAUBISOFT that are designed to extract maximum money from the goyim, or take a risk with rough around the edges, low budget early access indie shit that might actually be trying to do something new and differeny, all with a single price of entry. Jews aren't even trying to make good games. Slavs have the old American can-do attitude and drive to do more with less that is sorely lacking in the rest of the industry. But keep on shilling your nigger tier counterstrike reskins. Faggot.
caaff6 No.15803566
>>15803562
Yea but the game suffers from connection issues. If it didn't have the dogshit hit reg problems that hinder it more people would probably consider playing it but it's dogged with more in game issues than pub g.
19acff No.15803749
>>15784630
>top tier pro plays
>it's just some faggot constantly spawn camping
Wow this is really just COD hidden under the thin veil of being "realistic.
e3f525 No.15805935
>>15803538
Fuck I meant high TTK.
In insurgency sandstorm you can take so many shots now to the point where pistols are useless.
In the previous game TTK was perfect making every weapon viable and building up tension between teams to think about their movement and positioning through objectives
In sandstorm the game no longer feels tense as it was.
The sandstorm fanboy fags that promote high TTK for the game are the same people that got raped in insurgency 2014.
You are given more chances to live in insurgency sandstorm than insurgency 2014.
Insurgency 2014 provided a lot more thought of how you were moving yourself to objective as your life was very fragile. Even the weakest pistols like the Makarov in 2014 can kill a heavily armored guy.
In sandstorm TTK is higher so it's bullet spongy which defeats the game design and nature of the insurgency-high lethality close quarters combat.
Sandstorm feels like a fucked version of BF4 hardcore ngl
caaff6 No.15806005
>>15805935
you keep doing it you should just know high ttk=quick death low ttk=takes longer to kill
caaff6 No.15806018
>>15805935
I fucked up too yea low ttk is what the fags were begging for. I would just add killcams to insurgency so people can figure out the angles better, see whose cheating, and understand the line of sight options on the map. The problem with games that don't have killcams is that there are just too many "high priority" positions that you can't even figure out unless you found it yourself or you observe someone using it. Introducing killcams will just make it easier to understand how the maps in insurgency flow so you know where to prefire.
87f81c No.15806059
>milsim REELISM shit tacticool
>le dead game with a few hundred players
>nu multiplayer games made past 2010
>shilling for the multiplayer game they want people to buy to get rid of their buyers remorse
there are no good multiplayer FPS out this decade, you'd have better chances just finding a community for an older game or playing shit like BF2/2142
ddda0e No.15806870
>>15806005
isnt it the opposite away around?
low time to kill - quicker deaths
high time to kill - longer deaths
39218e No.15817182
>>15783466
It still has a small community.
142b16 No.15817272
>>15817182
>game filled with huezillians
93866e No.15817823
>>15799538
Overpowered helmets and armor was patched out oh, like, 9 months ago? That issue only existed for maybe a month, and only with certain ammo types that had no AP.
>>15803566
Try playing now. The connection issues and hitreg have been greatly improved. I gave it a 3 month break myself and came back once the 10.5 patch dropped. Shit still happens, but overall it feels MUCH better and opponents drop when they're supposed to. No more bouncy desync and rarely do I get gunned down a second after getting behind cover.
Still isn't perfect, but the devs are making significant improvements. It isn't noticeable unless you actually make the effort to play the game again, instead of reading the crybabies on Reddit and streamfags. It's always some faggotry with those niggers.
Hideout is coming in the .11 patch, and the transition to Unity 2018 engine in mid 2019, which will hopefully alleviate most of the graphics performance issues and improve the sound engine.
Their biggest mistake was using Unity in the first place, but then again, it may just turn out to be the smart decision if they can iron out the optimization simply due to the fact Unity can handle fuckloads of items in a way that UE can't.
>>15803566
ebef93 No.15818257
Poorfag here. My teens were filled with naught but Deus Ex and f2p shooters, so I'll list all the ones I've played and give them a score outta ten. (These scores will be when compared to Deus Ex)
CS clones:
Crossfire- 0/10
Soldier front- 0/10
Wolf Team- 0/10
BlackShot- 0/10
BlackSquad- 0/10
Sudden Attack- 0/10
Counter-Strike Onrine- 0/10
Project blackout (gone by so many names but its still 0/10)
Tactical Intervention (better than cs but still 0/10)
Codclones:
Soldier front 2- 0/10
warface- 0/10
combat arms- 0/10
Combat arms 2- 0/10
I can elaborate on any of these on request but the point is they're all shit and you should just play Deus Ex.
000000 No.15818767
>>15785606
>Purchasing a product shows approval to everything that produced that product.
Wrong, and pointless.
With that attitude you'll never support any company because of some slight mistake they once made, and no company will even try catering to you as a result.
You'll become virtually identical to those bitter SJWs that screech about wymmin in vidya and shit on any game that tries to appease them.
608dd8 No.15820390
>>15783466
Play Urban Terror.
3b6b45 No.15820524
>>15784542
I like csgo quite a bit but one thing that gets me is why pubs are so fucking autistic.
>yellow go b please
>ok I go mid to a
>loses round because he's a retard
>"WTF GUYS WHY DO YOU SUCK"
>>15784601
Not difficult given how hard they fucked the game up.
42a6fd No.15820535
I would say destiny 2
But they are adding more microtransactions so i would not
878846 No.15829789
>>15784542
This. The game only gets good once you get out of nova though.