/v/ - JACK FROST DIED FOR THIS

this game is grindy as fuck.

>>15776472

shit he found out

Maintenance for what? General shit or balance patch being pushed out?

When we go to war with California pay particular care when raiding Krielkipje, a rank 70+, and Aardvark, a rank 85. They've got the best defenses on their team. Both have a base pretty much filled with high end night raider defenders so expect lots of pierce resistance. Aardvark uses medusa head on one hand flame wand on the other for basically every defender. There's a pretty powerful kamas in his last room too so don't let multiple enemies spawn or you'll regret it. Krielkipje has a few dual medusa heads, some red napalm minigun, a rocket rage move, and a couple kamas users. His last room is pretty weak if you pierce the first though. I advise popping a stingshroom and possibly life shroom before departing for their bases. The effects carry over to the actual raid, and you'll need the extra damage to keep multiple defenders from spawning at once and deal with whatever alarm rng you get. You'll probably want some form of cc to pin down the medusa heads too. You should start with some rage because of our high hatred so kamas grenade launcher isn't a bad idea. They might put a bunch of anti frongus decals on too because I've been raiding them every reset for a while now and abusing that stuff.

>>15776782

>just_another_day_on_syria.jpg

>>15776779

Put BigZombie on that list too. Rank 55 but has the red night scout armor and takes ages to even kill 1 defender. Go in with blunt or slash instead and hope its enough damage.

>>15776836

I think it's worth it to just have another machete available in the store. Machetes have one of the best movesets for melee weapons, but their durability is shit. So having another one on a second timer seems handy.

>>15776850

I think that the night raider/scout stuff is resistant to blunt and fire too. I got my pitching machine up to tier 4+1 where it does blunt instead of pierce hoping it would help against them, but its dps is significantly worse on them than my kamas. This was under ideal conditions for the pitching machine too. I had thrown frongus and was just sitting there pelting them for 10 seconds. I'm going to try leveling a lightning wand for anti pierce defenders. I think pretty much every war ensemble piece has a weakness to lightning.

I don't know if this is worth making another thread over, i'm just assuming Let it die, No More Heroes, Killer Is Dead and Killer 7, fans is gonna be around the same group of people for the most part.

But anyway the new port of Killer 7 seems to not be shit, yes there was that screen shot with the dolphin emulator which was worrisome, but from what I can tell the port is in fine shape. I don't know enough about Killer 7 to be an authority this is my first time playing the whole game, but vid related seems like a decent review. Though he missed that you can play the Japanese version by picking the Japanese language setting.

They are still making patches for the smaller problems, but the fact it's getting patched at all is a good thing.

Things that stick out is the game is 60fps the majority of the time save for things like the reloading animations which break if there above 30fps.

Also you can swap between Smiths without going into the menu by pressing the 1-7 keys, and you can heal just by pressing H.

>>15776877

>I'm going to try leveling a lightning wand for anti pierce defenders.

the lightning wand t4 has some of the most ridiculously hard material requirements. keep that in mind.

>>15776897

>killer 7

>not about a loli murderer

?

>>15776934

Yeah, I'm gonna go to tier 4+1 and stay there for a good while.

Thinking about looking into hard and possibly nightmare mode foreskin bosses. What kind of bullshit should I expect/prepare for?

>>15778698

White steel is still a joke, but the others are pretty hard from what I've seen. You're going to need some nice gear to take them on. There isn't really any getting around that fact.

>>15778994

Well after Coen you get back all your gear in that chest. You only need to worry about the first weapon in terms of what you can beat coen with without getting killed yourself by the hater. Also tier 4 nigger, don't be a useless piece of shit and stop halfway.

>>15778994

max out the gun as hard as possible

dragonshroom, guardshroom x10, stingshroom, rage attack, slow down time, cheese it as fucking hard as possible and it's going to be worth it

>>15779068

>Guardshroom x10

I think you might be on shrooms, I've found maybe 4 of those in my entire time playing the game.

Anyway, other than a lifeshroom which you should always have, none of that shit is necessary. Start with a tier 4 magnum, kill coen, then pick up your tier 4+1 KAMAS from the chest. Combined with tier 3+4 (minimum) body armor you should have an easy time with the boss. Still takes more ammo than any previous fight, but shouldn't even be half of one gun, and the damage he does to you shouldn't be too harsh either.

>>15779010

>>15778994

I think I probably told you the magnum was good. I only meant for up to Coen sorry. I used the kamas after that, and it took the last boss down well enough. I can't really think of a weapon I would prefer to use there honestly. Tier 4 is an insane jump on a lot of weapons. The magnum for example gets 647 attack at tier 3 +4, and it gets 2523 attack at tier 4 +0 and twice as much ammo. If you can take out Coen with the tier 3 magnum you can probably put off upgrading that, but tier 4 whatever you want to fight gunkanyama with.

Don't neglect shrooms either. Obviously pop a life shroom before the fight, but crushrooms and stingshrooms are easy enough to farm that you could have that buff last the whole fight too. Farming a bunch of lifesteal shrooms from crabs I think floor 11 has a pit they spawn in would really help due to the fact that the fight is long and has few healing opportunities. You can also pop a cat's eye during the final phase and scarf shrooms during the slow mo. Make sure you've got a tier 5 combat class with maxed hp, whichever attack stat, and vit, and make sure you're using good decals for the fight. You're not going to get much mileage out of poison eater for this boss.

>>15779097

When you say the kamas you mean the normal one or the one you get with recycle points?

I keep hearing the green kamas is really good, so I don't know if the normal one is worth the time.

>>15779133

They are both good, recycle one is a bit better. A little more damage, ammo, and a lot more durability, however it costs almost twice as much KC so the non-recycle one is actually more efficient for general use. I have both at Tier4+1 myself, I think that much is worth getting.

>>15779136

I usually had to buy both because the timers get really long around that point, and I burned a lot of ammo. I eventually developed the mindset that making a kc loss when accounting for gear in barbs was fine. I was there to get mats to get better weapons or get to a higher floor to get better fighters. That mindset served me pretty well back then.

>>15779133

You won't regret getting both up. Shop timers make it so you have to rotate weapons when climbing 51+ or afk for an hour every few floors, and even the downgraded kamas is still top class. I advise leaving the normal one at tier 4 +0 until you can get the RE to +5 though. t4+0 has a 1 hour timer, and t4+4 has a 1 hour 40 minute timer. Also, they share materials so you won't be slowing your RE's progression down.

>finally defeated Pale Wind (H)

>only because he decided to taunt me 3 times, 2 of which were near enough to the net

like i said, this fight is pure fucking luck.

I finally got red napalm on nightmare. I made 4 attempts. I killed her twice, and I died twice. The kamas killed her fine despite her pierce resistance which got me thinking. What if you brought a bunch of rocket launchers or kamas + mouseshroom in and just hit her with the splash from behind cover. You could stick to that during normal periods and start direct firing when you get the stun from knocking her out of stealth. You could probably even use raging bull because you aren't exposing yourself to her directly. The biggest problem I see is making sure you don't take a surprise shot when she stealths. I tried my +5 kamas's rage move during the fight, and it was doing about 2k damage with barbarian x2, assault rifle addict, and a red stingshroom. The damage seemed viable provided I was willing to burn my guns out really fast. I'd like to try a raging bull setup, but I don't have the skill shrooms to replace my non premiums, and I am out of cateyes and umbrellas on top of that.

>>15779539

RN is another bullshit luck fight.

once you run out of cover, it all comes down to how many times she shoots the rockets at you, if she starts spamming blue wave and rockets you're fucked, if not you might have a chance.

hell the only fair 44CE fight is whitesteel, every other forcenigger spams that blue wave crap at random and basically you're fucked. enjoy wasting your rare shrooms.

>>15779068

>burn my free revive and 3 DMs to defeat taro

Is this what its like to be reddit? Buy in because im a fucking idiot?

>>15779987

>>15779539

o yeah, did i mention her gun has more ammo than yours?

i mean, if you were to create the M2g-87 that she uses, you have 120/5100, that means you cannot load any more ammo than 120. but she can fire the rocket at you 3 times and keep firing shit like fireworks, each rocket costs 60 ammo if im not mistaken, so the math doesn't add up. whitesteel and black thunder don't have any extra moves in their weapons that the player doesn't when you fight them.

>>15780035

yes.

>>15780061

Don't NPCs using guns have more ammo or infinite ammo by default? I almost never see a kamas screamer, hater, or hunter reload.

>>15780085

no. Screamers/Haters have a predetermined amount of ammo just like the player.

if you actually spend the time baiting them to use it all, their weapons will break due to durability, or they will simply drop them and go at you with their fists.

what i said is that RN can "load" more ammo than the player. with the m2g you can load 120, but she seems to have a near endless amount of ammunition. her reload animation seems to be akin to a "taunt" because she really doesn't need to do it.

>>15780360

At least I won't be making that mistake again.

>>15780623

that room in YATSUO is a godsend when you need to farm Reversal metal or when you need to complete the reversal tuber kill quests. be glad its there.

>>15780684

I sure am glad the shuriken exists, reversal and bone tubers can't do shit against it so far.

>>15780684

>>15780698

>shuriken will hit the stairs before the reversal

>reversal will hump the wall if you try to bait

I'll be glad when they decide not to put his fat ass in the hall on the stairs.

>>15780354

I did that to myself with the one in Ebata the other day. I got the entrance where she spawns high up and shredded her before she had the chance to teleport to the ground. It really looked like I could climb up to get it so I wasn't worried.

I think I give up on farming red napalm for now. I hate her invisibility so much at this point, and she has way too much life and armor. It's really grating trying to kill her without any cat's eye.

>>15781884

use the grate to see where she is

>>15782248

>no treasure hunter

how the hell do you even know where you're going?

>>15782261

>knowing where I'm going

Where the hell is the fun in that?

>>15782265

>runs past all the t6 and t7 materials because he doesn't see them

>wastes time killing rooms full of enemies that lead to dead ends, having to backtrack

i dunno, seems common sense when you're trying to run 30+ tengoku floors in a row.

>>15782280

>First time

>need to do everything by your book

I'd rather not, but thanks for the opinion.

>>15782289

>need to do everything by your book

play wrong if you want fag. no skin off my back

>>15782280

>giving up an extra 20% damage you could have slotted

>not having all the material spawn locations for each room memorized

>not killing all the haters for extra gold chest drops

What are you even doing?

>>15782291

>wrong is reading everything ahead of time and taking the joy out of exploration and discovery

Holy shit I never want to be right, then.

>>15782295

>What are you even doing?

playing efficiently it seems.

>>15782305

Bumbling through for your 10th time maybe, but this is my rodeo, not yours. Next time I'll bring in the +7% War Ensemble decal just for you.

>>15782321

thats a good decal tbh, using 2 is like having a barbell and almost a diamond.

So, I finally gave in and downloaded this. I'm actually having fun, but like others have said, this shit is grindy as hell. I've only cleared the second mid-boss so far, but I've already got three characters capped out. Where the fuck do I get more bloodnium, are there certain areas where the shrooms are more available?

>>15783342

You get bloodnium after floor 40, don't waste it on your rank 1 fighters, higher ranks have higher level caps.

>>15783356

So, let me guess. Cap out low-level fighters, get to higher floors, buy higher-leveled fighters, lather, rinse, repeat?

>>15783369

Yes, rank 6 is the current maximum, afterwards you can uncap them with post game shit.

>>15783342

You'll get a paltry sum of 10 once in a blue moon from Splattershrooms, which are retardedly rare. Don't worry about uncapping your 1 star fighters, you'll get higher tier fighters as you progress.

>finally get my storage contents under 200/210 to 175/210

>+1 my kamas RE-tard giga gun

>can feasibly do 41+ with minimal effort

Today was a good day.

>>15783378

There's also no reason to save it for tier 6, because the amount required to buy 'roids is ridiculous. If you can afford to uncap something you are currently using, might as well do it.

>>15783536

True, but it may as well be a 3 or 4 star fighter. The progress from 1-3 is ridiculously quick and uncapping them would be meaningless.

>>15783545

Similar problem, the amount required increases. I think you can +1 or +2 a tier 1 fighter with a single splattershroom.

Personally, I put +2 luck on a tier 5 lucky star. If the wiki is correct, he actually has more luck than a tier 6, so it's good for low-level farming.

>>15783551

Yeah, the first bonus levels for each stat on a 1-star fighter are 10 bloodnium. I just finished the first Don and bought my first 2-star collector because the bag space is really important to me, though I'll probably take a Striker or All-Rounder for actually killing bosses.

I also thought it was a nice touch to be able to fry beasts (like those poison snails) with fireworks. Neutralizes threats AND cooks them, very useful.

>>15783356

It's after floor 50 that haters start dropping bloodnium.

>>15783369

Gear is probably the most important form of progression. An upgraded weapon in particular should be your first priority. The hammer, iron, magnum, and firework launcher are all worth looking into for floors 1-10. You'll want to get magnum and firework launcher mastery levels up if you use them because they get abilities that make them better. After floor 11 you can find the assault rifle, the machete, and the long sword. The assault rifle is the most popular weapon in the game by far for good reasons. The machete has a really fast move set that lets you combo hits, but it has poor durability at the same time. The longsword is really easy to upgrade and has good numbers but a somewhat poor moveset. I advise dropping your floor 1-10 armor for a floor 11-20 set once you get there too. D.O.D. floor 1-10 faction the boss material for those floors, green D.O.D. metals, are a real pain in the ass to farm. War Ensemble Floor 11-20 faction armor has pierce resistance as its big thing, and end game that is 95% of all the damage you take.

>>15783944

Always get ????? blueprints, even if you have to drop other things. An upgraded metal bat or hammer can take you trough the first 13 floors. A bat is prefered because requires aluminium instead of iron, which is better spent on the machete and the magnum. You can get the machete's blueprint quite soon too.

Listen carefully. Both enemies and animals make noise, if you hear an enemy crouch, look around and move carefully until you have detected it and can decide the best aproach. This is really useful in the floors after 10 because the layout gets more complicated, with more ambush points and enemies with firearms hidden in weird places.

When facing an enemy with a firearm hide around a corner, it will come running and get into melee range.

Your gunshots will attract enemies in range, use it for your advantage.

Killing a snail with give you a poison inmunity shroom, if you find a group of them kill the first one so you eat it and deal safely with the rest.

Spend your death metals on storage.

I'm new too, but I got to floor 21 doing this with only one death.

I didn't realize just how easy black thunder is. It kind of makes the medusa head defenders in tdm even more annoying because I know the people probably didn't have that much trouble farming for the blueprint. Also, Is it just my game that completely freezes up when I select return to title? It would make farming these forcemen a lot faster if I could just exit and come back instead of completely rebooting the game every trip.

>>15783944

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DvNDTmy_4P72C1ly4xMYItO6gb17EtdI3XuHFzAcX4Y/edit#gid=1353594331 is a pretty good map of the tower that updates for every daily rotation and lists floors that give specific material types. Don't use any 4* non premium decals you get until you have tier 6 fighters if they're still even handing those out. Feel free to use premium decals, the ones you pay 50k kc for, as much as you want. They can be peeled off and reused. Poison eater is a somewhat easily accessible decal 4 bronze skillshrooms that you can use for infinite life regeneration by carrying a snail with you and dropping it to poison yourself. Do the tdm rainbow bag quests sooner rather than later. Don't use death metals to revive. Either save 20 for the beam katana or upgrade your storage. If you climb past 21 or 41 you'll get higher tier login bonuses. Do enough tdm to always have your spl bank, kc bank, and freezer being upgraded. You can use inactive fighters' death bags as extra storage. Don't be afraid to use mushrooms. The ones dropped from scorpions, frogs, and pill bugs are particularly strong.

another week, another pile of trash that i don't need from the TDM bags.

How are the mouse and keyboard controls?

>two successful defenses recently were from fags that just show up and then leave immediately before even attempting to fight

Is it my COEN alarm?

>>15785415

Better than what most people give them for.

>>15785742

Might be trying to downrank themselves so they aren't hit every 30 seconds.

>>15785742

It happened to me too, and I don't even have decent defenses.

Im tempted to try this. I've heard mixed opinions on the grind though.

>>15785835

You can get to about floor 16 or 20 without too much grinding. Try playing to there and seeing if you like the game enough to continue.

I found a retarded way to counter medusa head defenders in tdm. If you have juggler or possibly the other reload decal from this collaboration, you just need to reload in front of them. Their AI takes that as a prompt to attack you, but due to the shortened reload you have enough time to shoot down the head and get shots in on them while they are in the attack animation. Just repeat that until they die. Reloading also makes kamas haters attack you, and if you're far enough away they'll just miss everything and leave themselves open. Shit, I already thought this decal was a must have before I knew it could completely mindfuck two of the most annoying types of haters.

>>15785965

>farmed up all the mats for the next few tiers of upgrades on multiple weapons and armor

>timers are taking forever and storage is completely full

I know what you're going through.

>>15785988

>meanwhile, 6 days to make swim trunks in MGSV

>>15785965

So is the beam katana worth it or nah?

>>15786267

well worth it, it's basically a stronger machete only it becomes an electric weapon instead of a fire one.

Is there any good way to farm the Travis gear?

>>15786426

Farm other stuff and kill the imposters you come across. If you really just want to farm that try clearing floor 24 moriba a bunch.

>>15786426

all the imposters have the same droprate. so pick your poison.

>>15786556

Reapers coat takes a ton of rare mats to have decent stats from what I've seen. When you're at the point where you can consider upgrading it getting to 100 probably won't be very hard.

>>15786649

i am properly geared, i just lost my cool at the last minute and did everything wrong. i should have been more patient with jin-die and waited for a proper opening.

i'll try again next week when quests refresh because i ain't running to 80 and beyond unless im getting a big meaty bloodshroom for it.

>>15786725

So what does floor 95 jin die have different from her floor 3X version?

>>15786725

I'm just saying you probably didn't lose much by stopping at 95 rather than 100. The blueprint will come way earlier than the mats you'll need to actually make the thing.

>>15786821

Jin-Die and U10 are dangerous as fuck past 40.

>>15786886

We talking 1 shot and same mechanics or different mechanics with more power behind them?

>>15786916

same mechanics but nearly instakill

>>15786919

>same mechanics

git gud

>>15786944

The arena is a lot smaller. Also, Coen gets his starting shout turned into an aoe attack. So there might be some subtle changes on the others too.

>>15786916

well like i said, i tried to rush it there and paid full price for it.

even so, the stats of bosses above 90 are insane. im talking one shot deaths with full +9 armor and full damage sponge mode. the only hope you have of doing them fast is finding the right shrooms on the floors leading to them.

>>15786963

oh yeah, i forgot.

coen's radar is a powerful AoE attack now. if you dont block at the beginning of the fight, you're dead pretty much.

jin die's explosions are bigger and wider when she shoots a cluster of mortar heads. i believe she can also dodge now (as in, make a dash to the side when you're hitting her) because i've never seen pre-tengoku jin die do that.

goto's skeletons now carry Flame Wands and Thor Staffs. and they hurt.

and u10's arena is a tiny cage, and i mean fucking tiny. i havent seen her do any new moves, its the same but you're cramped up which is a huge disadvantage.

I found out that you can still reload while poisoned today. You just have to start holding the A button while doing an animation that you can't throw up during your best options are either shooting your gun or rolling and use that button press to reload when you're ready. I also found out that there aren't nearly enough raid targets with a decent amount of kc.

>>15788007

Gotta push to Diamond 3 so you can get that juicy 10k bonus per raid.

>>15789794

>open both rainbow bags

>get a decal and 200k SPL

Fuck you and your luck.

>>15789928

Show us the damage stats, nigger.

Fight with Maryland beginning soon.

>>15790015

Vermont's toughest defense is from Name. He's got a lot of kamas rage move setups and a few dual medusa defenders. I took a hostage from his bank room so his defenses are a bit weaker there for the next 4 hours.

>>15790010

Jokes on you, it was vermont.

>>15790079

>dual medusa defenders

Well, hes the only one on my list for now, so fuck it, I'll sit pretty with 1400 points.

>>15790088

We might get a 2 front war here. I think Name has 2 dual medusas set up in his station platform alarm is there too. You could brute force your way past with mushrooms, but I'm pretty sure they were also wearing pierce resist armor.

I might be going crazy from too much tdm. I've started to have fun fighting medusa defenders. Shooting the heads out of the air is satisfying.

>>15789936

its the Hellhound. a sniper rifle with 2400 attack.

>>15791645

>it was a blank.

What do you mean by that? Are you talking about an expedition which ended in a tie?

>>15791821

yeah you know, one of those where the hunter doesnt even meet the target. a shame because it doesn't count unless you actually kill it.

but hopefully the captures and defenses make up for it.

>>15789928

what floor do i even need to get to before i start finding t8 materials?

>>15793599

recycle them at the machine and buy the golden Kama

>>15794021

i have both already. gimme a fucking barbell or heavy tank goddammit

>>15794123

>Also has anyone done that naked victory quest

i don't think its possible. and also 1 death metal? thats bullshit. if you did something as insane as running all the way to Futagi, defeat COEN and Gunkayima on your fists alone and without armor or decals, the bare minimum reward i'd expect is like 100 DM or more. or some kinda year-long express pass.

>>15794123

You've gotta go to at least 45 to get back to the waiting room once you go past 41. Also, there's a few different paths with different mats at the end, but there's only one with two ways of getting in that leads to 51. So you should look up a map if you just want to progress higher. For your 5 items you bring I recommend body and leg armor and 3 good weapons for haters you can replace a weapon with head armor if you have forceman or uncapped because you might have to climb 10 floors without any breaks or shops if you're unlucky. Have 250k in stored currency from rewards or forceman blueprints just in case you die. Vampire and Giant slayer at around level 100-110 can both help a lot. Frongus, brainshrooms, cat's eye, and umbrella fungus you find while climbing can help you deal with the really geared haters you might meet.

>>15794240

I'd probably go as a collector and throw a full inventory of explosive shrooms or use some other shroom intensive strategy.

>>15794245

yeah good luck making the shrooms actually hurt the bosses. thats not gonna happen. gunkayima moves at u10 speed, because it is essentially u10. and coen is essentially a walking, aggressive sandbag.

i have no idea what were they thinking when they made that quest.

>>15794319

i try to never have more than 10 of anything. unless i specifically need more than 10 for something.

>>15794404

silk is used for 2 sets of armor and jackshit else.

the Sengoku Armor, and the new Maniac Wizard armor (the one whose blueprints come from mystery bags)

i remember storing a lot of silk back during the early launch days because

>"oh man a tier 5 material? sign me the fuck up"

and then realizing the only thing that needs it is sengoku, an armor set that i dont even like back in those days, Hades Knight was better anyway

>>15794422

I think I already have the wizard set but lack anything sengoku aside from the helmet.

I don't even feel like going through the trouble of ranking the set up past base when I have other things to use materials on.

Is the vajra of light worth farming. Black thunder is pretty easy except for the shitty walk, and the weapon looks pretty cool. It seems to scale off dex mostly which is nice, but I'm seeing some mixed opinions on the move set. It's also a shame that it looks like it is 1handed so its decal setup is going to be awkward.

>>15794432

The only part that uses silk in Sengoku is the chest plate. I think it needs about 30 total. It's the only good looking piece from the set though honestly. It even still looks kind of weird on male characters because it has a midriff, and it also has a poor resistance spread +9 slash +9 fire -5 everything else. Its max tier turns it white and black which is a pretty good colour scheme for it. Sengoku set is also used in the hagakure decal which is one of the better set bonuses 60% crit rate 30% crit damage on the katana. I finally figured out what the source of my storage problems was the other day. The lost bags from tdm drop a bunch of trash and I was just mindlessly stuffing it in there.

>>15794535

>tdm trash

I know how you feel, I keep stuffing aluminum scraps in there even though I don't need them for anything anymore.

Looks like we're getting further uncapped fighters and +14 gear after maintenance is over. Dons will be added as bosses on floors 100+, and the bloodnium exchange is also getting higher tier materials.

>>15794432

i got the entire wizard set uncapped to +9. its pretty good.

>>15795098

oh boy, more powercreep. at least the forcemen will be even easier now that we'll have stronger gear.

i wonder how much further they will take this. by june next year we'll get +19 gear, then +24, then god only fucking knows.

>>15795128

>everyone gets to 201

wew laddie

>>15795128

I don't think I mind the power creep too much in terms of pve. You pretty much get to the point where everything one shots you I hear. So getting armor and weapons to deal with the higher areas of the tower seems okay, and it also means you'll be dealing with harder haters in return. On the other hand the pseudo pvp is going to be a complete shit show. Getting hunters with higher stats and +14 gear chasing me sounds awful, and TDM is going to have a bigger gear gap even though the gap was already pretty bad to start with. The fact that the dons are now on higher floors and haters have better armor is going to make farming this stuff now a lot harder than it was before too. So it's going to take even more effort to get the gear needed to deal with those +14 hunters and tdm defense setups.

>>15795208

When is that event? You could potentially enter the tower just before it resets out of forceman mode and just afk at an escalator until the day changes to get a second set of 3 revives. If it starts on a Monday or Thursday you could also try to lock the tower into forceman mode before the event starts too.

>>15795298

The event starts tomorrow, and ends on Tuesday. Guess you could try that trick after maintenance.

>>15795328

Yeah, I'll see if it works.

got 3 DM, i fucking knew it. the DMs are determined by the amount of achievements you get, i had 5 achievements this time around

50k+ KC stolen

50k+ SPL stolen

high destruction (seems to be related to your final score, mine was 2250 points this time)

1+ base defenses

1+ captures

with all these i got 124k resources and 3 DM, i wonder if i had gotten a successful hunt instead of a "Draw" i would have received 4 DMs. its hard to get achievements when the team you're fighting is full of low ranks and low population.

Holy shit, I made such an awful decision to make my shooter male. My highest body armor is sengoku at +8 and my best leggings are red napalm. So I've got a giant midriff that leads into a thong followed by some metal stockings. I really hate this look on a guy, but I also need the defense stats right now.

>>15795384

It's based off the destruction stat. If it is 5% you get 3dm, 6-16% 2 dm, and I'm not sure on the other rewards. The destruction stat is your percentile placement based on war contribution stat. So 5% means you were in the top 5% of all contributors. I'm pretty sure it caps out at 3 dms. The reason it's hard to get the 3 dms for us is because we're in a very tdm focused team so everyone is contributing a shit load. The 5 points from a successful expedition can set you apart from everyone else who completely raided everyone on their list and reraided again after reset.

>>15795425

>I really hate this look on a guy

A lot of the armor is downright repulsive on the dude fighters, with a very few exceptions like duster style long jackets.

>>15795431

He probably already has +14 from using dms on the timers.

>>15795454

A DUD?!

>>15795477

Didn't think they'd texture the area where the spandex would be, wew.

Does anyone know what the exact trigger for red napalm destroying your cover is? It feels like it is at a certain health percent that she does it, but I'd really like to know specifics if anyone has them.

>>15795495

You know I watched the movie this pic comes from. Some really strange shit whatever the point was it flew right over my head as a kid and the ending of the sudden age to skeletons spooked me a little bit. Compared to the WWII porn dramas, strange french videos of people getting involved in supernatural shit while they descend into degeneracy, Red Shoe Diaries which is basically Agent Muller reading a girl's porn fantasies, and a spanish soap opera of some opera or movie director swimming in pussy where the guy literally fucks dozens of women vying for the lead role that movie still stands out.

Oh boy you can unlock a 7th skill slot on your characters. May as well delete the skill master class now before everyone eventually gets 9 slots.

>>15795805

But, fam, what if the skill master gets a 10th slot?

Has ANYONE been able to run the game since the patch? I can't even get it to launch at all.

>>15796022

It's working for me. Try verifying your files in steam.

>>15796071

Already tried that. Guess I'll try a full uninstal

>>15796094

It wouldn't update for me last time so I nuked my files without making a backup. I kept my account and progress. You should probably not take my word for it and make a backup anyways though. It ended up fixing the problem.

>>15796108

>>15796094

Still getting nothing. It briefly says "running" in steam and then cuts out, no window or process ever actually launches.

>>15795328

I just tested the trick, and it works. I think I'll use my 3 revives on Sunday to farm red napalm because I only need the occasional 1 revive if I fuck up something, and I'll try to use the 3 from Monday to brute force my way past Pale wind for the DM quest.

>>15796197

You redownloaded the whole thing? I don't think I've really got the expertise to help you here sorry. All I can say beyond verifying the files is try rebooting and running it as admin.

>Hernia machine has purple metals listed for 150k recycle points

Seems like a pretty decent deal if you've already got the blueprints you want. The new tier 8 mat deals are only 2500 bloodnium as well. It's nice to have somewhat reliable ways to bypass the rng.

>tengoku floors have been balanced

the fuck did they mean by this?

>>15797208

ideally, you want to develop both. because of the rebuy timers.

i got to floor 100. holy shit, at the very last boss floor, i met new Crowley. i used my whole 3 free continues on this bastard, and he's supposed to be one of the easy ones.

collector really cannot go beyond floor 80 up here.

Is there a trick to using the m2g87? I've been getting the mastery up, and I noticed that it's really easy to toss out accidental rockets and grenades. Seems like I'll just get myself killed if I continue to suck at using it.

>>15798159

holding R1 or L1 will slow down the ammo selector. honestly i think its a stupid fucking weapon. its more suited for hunters & defenders because then the AI operates them and the other players don't know whats coming.

however, there are some really crazy videos on youtube of people going all the way to 200 with it.

>>15798175

Yeah, I want to be good with it because it looks like a weapon that can carry you if you can use it right. The controls for it just seem kind of poorly put together though. Slow on both R1 and L1 feels really wasted to me for example. They should have just made R1 a separate trigger for fireworks, rockets, and grenades. Then you'd only have to deal with 3 120 degree sections of the circle, and fuck ups wouldn't have the same potential to be catastrophic. I read that they also put some really obtrusive fish-eye effects on the serial killer decal. They got the controls and visuals pretty much right everywhere else so it kind of bugs me that you've gotta deal with poorly done controls and visuals if you want to use top end gear.

>>15798286

>on the serial killer decal.

i'll tell you in a year or two when i get it sike im not gonna get it because i have shit luck

>>15798323

I've been farming at least 3 million kc to burn on stews every day this week. All I've gotten are shitty set bonuses like the shotgun's, shitty addicts like the stun baton's, and about 3 million recycle points. On the bright side I seem to get at least a single 4* decal every time I spend a million been buying them in batches of 20.

>>15798340

im not autismal enough to farm a million coins. usually stop and go buy around 300k.

Free to play equals guaranteed gay.

6/10 on steam. Yeah, no thanks shills.

>>15800414

>steam ratings

>matter

>>15800414

>Steambots sucking corporate cock once again.

Checks out.

>>15801484

i just got the kamas RE to +5. i gotta be honest i still preffer doing things the melee way. enemies block all my bullets anyway.

>>15796197

Did you ever get it to work? Mine is doing the same thing and reinstalling does nothing.

>t8 materials have functionally no chance of appearing under floor 80

>every time you want to upgrade something beyond >+11, you need to run all the way to 80+ and hope for the best, if you don't get what you need, that's 2+ hours of your life wasted

the least they could do is put a free Dustin every 10 floors or so goddammit.

>>15802583

>turn then immediately shoot

Alright, I think I get it now. I was waiting until he actually dropped all the way before firing again.

>>15802583

wew. AI manipulation: the game

>no captures

>nobody to rescue

>nobody to hunt

this fight fucking sucks. kagoshime is a team full of people who played for 20 minutes and uninstalled the game.

guess its going to be just 2DM this fight.

>>15801614

Nope.

>treasure tuber on 55 dropped an orange MILK metal

I didn't even know they were capable of dropping purple metals.

>>15803915

they can drop any metals. and also any roids. the chance is higher as you climb up though. same for material spawns.

on floors 52-55, you will hardly ever get t7 mats, let alone t8, but it IS possible. i've found an Aramid Fiber on the very first floor of tengoku (52)

>>15803951

So you can get platinum metals from those treasure tubers in the very first boss room?

I'm thinking about popping next weeks bloodnium shrooms before climbing as high as I can so that they get affected by the multiplier at the end. Has anyone already tried this?

>>15804507

Did you at least get the elevator?

>>15804587

I went back to my waiting room after I got raped by the charger before I even could fight any of the two bosses.

>>15804664

Oh, I was thinking about the elevator on 25. I had a pretty awful death myself to one of the dev haters up at floor 80 today. I was running through a candle wolf section, and I got to one of those tunnels with some side rooms that have a few mat spawns. I went into the side room with a locker trap and I shot up the hater that busted out of it. The gun shots somehow attracted one of the new dev haters from the next area. I think the magnum is louder than the kamas. It was one that had the motor cycle equipped, and apparently they also decided to give it enough rage to use the charge attack. There wasn't really a good way to dodge it at that point. The initial hit used my life shroom and made me groggy which guaranteed my death. I kind of wish they hadn't thrown a bunch of super tanky health+, armor+, anti pierce, and anti headshot decals on all of them haters with rage moves everywhere just because they wanted to sell more death metals.

>ps4 and vita

wew what a shithole this place is.

>>15804816

and pc.

>Play game

>out of sync dialogue

>DUDE UNREAL ENGINE, LETS DO AS MUCH REFLECTION MAPPING AS POSSIBLE

>no fucking mouse controls

>escape does nothing

>cutscenes so cringe inducing you could use them in a cringe thread

Literally the only reason this terrible, terrible port is defended is because muh japs.

>we collect "user data" about how you play the game

>every 30 seconds and every level the game is doing massive data exchange that causes the games framerate to drop

>need help exploring the tower? Platinum packs available now!

This place has lost all credibility that i didn't even know it had left to lose.

RESETTING THE CONTROLS TO DEFAULT CAUSES LEFT ALT TO BE BOUND TO TWO ACTIONS WHICH THE GAME SAYS CANNOT BE DONE

LET IT DIE?

MORE LIKE LEDDIT, DIE.

>>15805069

You should keep playing; I think you've got the autism to really enjoy the grinding that you do in the end game.

>>15804587

bloodnium obtained by shrooms doesn't count towards the bonus multiplier. did you even read the bible?

also holy fuck 48a533, you're fucking autistic man.

>>15804008

not platinum/red roids, but you can get up to orange/black roids on 55. its just very VERY rare.

>>15805010

>No mouse controls

Mouse doesn't work in the menu, it works in the actual gameplay. You can play with KB+M just fine out of the box.

>>15805069

>3 fucking key presses.

Its 2.

>>15805069

its just down and X, or A if you're enough of a faggot to have an xbox controller.

>>15806060

>Playing on a controller

Especially for a game with heavy emphasis on guns, you'd have to be an idiot not to use M+KB

>>15806096

not too worried about guns really. i'd rather use melee weapons

>>15806096

also

>heavy emphasis on guns

what.

there's a total of 5 weapons in the entire game that have a crosshair/aiming mode that would justify using a mouse. Thats not a heavy emphasis. And one of those isn't even worth carrying around because you can fire it 5 times max (20 when uncapped).

The rest of your arsenal is all melee shit that requires precise timing and baiting/punishing enemies depending on the weapon they're using. its an ARPG not an FPS, using KB+M here is doable sure, with properly upgraded kamas and the appropriate set of decals which only a fraction of the playerbase will get, because plebstew but its the equivalent of using a controller in counter strike because you have a knife.

When we fight California, beware of Brilly they have fire rods and at least one of them uses the rage move.

>>15806221

True, there aren't very many guns in the game. However, they are the strongest/most useful weapons in the game, so what you actually end up using especially at high level is always guns.

played this when it came out on the ps4 a couple years ago. does the steam version have decent controller support?

>>15806307

>so what you actually end up using especially at high level is always guns.

speak for yourself. i run with a machete and a bowling striker +10.

>>15806757

Welcome to the struggle

>Have no defense

>Everyone sees your rank 46/61/76 and tears you a new asshole

>Setup defense

>Everyone sees your rank 55/70/85 and ignores you

I figure the best way to farm defenses is to keep your rank low for your bracket, like 61 or 76. Then fill out your defense with twinked out fighters of a lower grade. Easiest with 76, as 5 star defenders are just as durable as 6 star ones. 6 stars just have higher STR/DEX for equipping weapons and killing shit.

>>15806757

I gave up on the bags from the defense rewards, I always get something stupid like the cowl blueprint for the 100th time or a bit of spl.

>+10 doesn't give you a separate timer from the +9 version

Fuck, I feel like I wasted a lot of time and bloodnium rushing from +7 on my weapon when my armor was still shit.

>>15806096

You're probably alright to play on a controller even using the guns. You're mostly fighting enemies that run in a straight line directly at you, and timing on the shots to get around their guard is more important than landing head shots tough defenders and haters will often have -80% extra damage on headshots anyways. Ranged haters do like to strafe from a distance though so they can be annoying. From what I gather the kamas was still the most used weapon on the ps4, and they were stuck on controllers. So it works well enough even if the controls aren't perfect.

>>15807347

when you play a fully uncapped shooter with 2 barbarian decals and an Assault Rifle Addict decal, you stop giving a shit about headshots.

but good luck grinding the kamas RE to +9 and getting the premium barbarian and addict. i still haven't gotten either. i only get shitty addicts for shitty weapons like the fire baton and the claw.

>>15807365

Yeah, I've got the barbarians, addict, and leveled kamas RE. My shooter only has 29 dex levels and six decal slots right now though. I still do less than 1000 damage to some peoples' defenders just because their armor is insane. As for decals, an anon was talking about getting a lot of dupes for marathon runner a thread or two ago, and I'm pretty sure he was right when he said you're more likely to get what you already have. I pulled back to back leaders wheels and a second hagakure yesterday, and I hadn't seen a single leaders wheels in the 30 million prior kc spent. I feel like they messed up the decimal place for time when they were calling the random number generator or something. I think I'm going to start farming a lot of kc at once, and I'll only blow it all if the first decal is a 4 star.

>>15807418

The best use I have thought of is to keep you from killing yourself on accident if you're using a raging bull setup. The second best use is to recycle it and trade it for purple metals or blueprints.

>>15807418

>Does this decal have any practical uses

no. hardly any floors in the game have drops high enough to cause significant damage/death. it wastes a slot.

>>15807463

>Yeah, I've got the barbarians, addict, and leveled kamas RE.

you lucky bastard.

>an anon was talking about getting a lot of dupes for marathon runner

that was me. i got 2 marathon runners in a row, like one after another, in 2 stews

>Get a 4 star decal

>It buffs the texas farmer outfit and firework launcher

god damn it.

>>15808530

there's a Pale Wind Nightmare strategy that includes using the fireworks launcher. that decal might not be so bad as you think.

>>15808613

I imagine that a lot of people that participate now will get 3 dms because we're only a few hours off of reset. There's probably just going to be less competition.

>>15808633

whether i get 2 or i get 3, im buying another NMH decal with that.

im starting to feel like i might make it in time and buy the entire set before the event ends, there's still more than 40 days left. keep invading so we get more fights.

>>15808717

I think we should pick a few teams that have a decent number of diamonds and just raid them everyday. Going after Alaska and California doesn't seem to bring results very fast because there are too many members. I don't know if it would be better to pick our own individual teams to raid every day or do an organized raid on specific teams though. I've personally been working on Israel for a few days now, but who knows when that'll turn into a war.

>>15808764

Apparently you get more hate on Saturdays and Sundays. So whoever you're targeting, now is a good time.

for how long are we gonna have 3 free continues? i just wasted all 3 on palewind nightmare and still didnt win. even with all +10 gear. that fight is objectively impossible unless you get the proper RNG. there's no way around it.

>>15810819

that decal is really good. i run around tengoku with my BK+10, sneaking around and doing the jump attack on unsuspecting enemies. its usually a one shot. even more if i do a taunt before.

protip: the taunt doesn't have to be seen by anyone to give you the boost. you can taunt in a hallway or an empty room, and the attack boost will apply anyway.

>>15808935

>Peru

ay caramba

>>15811568

I think hate is built based on the size of the team you're raiding not the size of the team you're on. If you played it like gamesfourever, then you could probably get a lot of wars going.

>>15811568

>but it's hard to get DMs

no its not. we have a perfect balance with the current status quo. i was with Alaska when i started and this is a lot better.

remember that when you lose the fight, you hardly get any DMs. having 3-4 fights a week and getting 2DM each fight its incredibly good. just look at the other teams, hardly any of them have a perfect win score. this is because our team is small, but all of our guys are strong. small teams with shit players dont get jackshit. if we can keep this rolling the way it is we will be getting a steady supply of DMs for a long time.

>>15811597

I would imagine smaller teams build hate faster. I mean look at Peru. IIRC their team has over 40 people, while Akita has over 200. And if I remember right, the hate bar showed them doing most of the raiding. Same with Bahrain who is on Akita's hate list, they have even less players.

>>15811647

Usually I just have one or two targets on my list and end up with 1 DM.

>>15811664

i had 8 targets against peru yesterday.

okay, given, i was the one who started the fight. but i think i would still have those 8 if i had gone to bed last night instead of doing that one peru raid.

>>15811664

Same, can I do anything else apart from cleaning my list to improve my results?

>>15811676

capturing defenders, defending your base, and sending in successful expeditions against the opposing team

>>15811689

So be lucky, basically?

>>15811739

yep

>>15811664

What rank and TDM score are you? I get the feeling that the target list is determined based on those.

>>15811739

Wait until after 5 am EST and add the team to your favorites. You can reraid all the people in the same tdm bracket as you, and you get points towards the war.

>>15811810

>What rank and TDM score are you?

Rank 64 I think and Diamond I.

>>15812075

Have you ever gotten raid targets that were 80+ during wars?

>>15812113

Can't really remember.

>>15812158

Well, raising your rank is something to consider anyways. Make sure to do the 50 defenses quests first though.

>>15814009

I think they either change based on tower rotation or randomly when you go back to your waiting room. I never figured that out. It's shop day so you can pick up mats up to the tier after steel at the 27f shop. Once you get there, the 39th floor with an elevator is a really good place to farm steel in particular. It has an easy layout with a good number of mat spawns, and only wire mountain, mass of iron bolts, steel, and ultra pure iron can spawn.

>>15814063

I bought 1 steel from the shop, which was why I tried picking another from the 30s. Also didn't realize nakasaki was metal only, I'll keep that in mind next time.

>>15814083

Yeah, That tier of mats has a pretty good farm setup. Aluminum has a longer walk than steel, but it is on the same floor as jin-die. She also has a guaranteed 4 spawns in her boss room so you can farm it at the same time as you grab war ensemble reds. If you run from f40 to her the walk is better in my opinion and the room you run through is an oil one. Gotto floor is an easy one to use for wood. I'm not sure on copper.

>>15814009

Those doors exist only to spit in your face.

Tip: the red lines in the 30s are ALWAYS sealed.

So, anons here are on Akita? I decided to just join South Carolina when I started, been trying to grind out victories between runs up the tower for my 100 victory raid seasonal quest. Still only on 3-star fighters so far, but I haven't put too much effort into getting up there. I know I really should, I just killed Jin-Die in 16F Kaga.

Also, where the fuck is the stamp on the 6th floor? It has to be in a room that rotates in and out of existence, I've hunted back and fucking forth for the son of a bitch.

>>15814202

You can change your team once for free. I'd just sit tight and wait for akita to enter a war before changing. You might get a war as South Carolina before we get another.

>>15814236

I just got out of a fight. We got our asses kicked. I'll keep my eyes on things, but it looks like Akita is pretty close to fighting California again.

Also, I just looked that shit up on the wiki, and the 6F stamp is on some fucking rotating floor. Is the rotation weekly, or am I fucked out of a stamp for less time?

>>15814253

It's weekly. You probably don't need to worry too much about it. It's just a single death metal you're going to wait on, and the reward for doing them all is a weapon with bad stats.

>>15814253

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DvNDTmy_4P72C1ly4xMYItO6gb17EtdI3XuHFzAcX4Y/edit#gid=0

This thing is pretty useful for finding out stuff about rotations (like when it changes, or what is coming up) so keep it around.

>>15815701

personally, i remember the CHUDO rotation is friday because its also the day that the shortest/fastest path possible from 1f to 10f appears, and it passes right through chudo.

i always save that weekly 200k KC quest for fridays, and complete it together with the weekly "defeat max sharp" quest so i add another dod red.

i finish it in like 10 minutes or so doing the route that passes through chudo and sashi-magome.

ikegara and wanoki have a lot of enemies and its important not to forget that one hidden enemy in ikegara that drops from the ceiling, but after ikegara and wanoki, every floor that passes through the chudo path has less than 5 enemies.

the real reward for collecting all the stamps is the 8 death metals that you get 1 of every set of 5 consecutive stamps. because the scythe fucking sucks unless you uncap it, and that costs nearly 200 chem oils and dozens of reversal metals and M.I.L.K. black metals. its a ridiculous amount of effort for very little pay. the reward for all 40 perfect stamps is the same weapon but golden, like uncle deaths one

>>15814236

You can't participate in a war that's already started when you join a team. It's to prevent people from hopping teams to chase wins.

>>15814202

There are lots of rotation-only stamps. In fact there's roughly one for every rotation every 10 floors.

>>15815839

there are also pages of the Yotsuyama Catalog that appear on rotation floors. so make sure to get those.

completing a full episode of Tales from the barbs and completing the entire Yotsuyama catalog will give you another DM each. its a miserable reward but it helps.

>>15816890

i dont know how much damage those shrooms do really. i always thought it was proportional

>>15816918

700 damage uncooked and sticks around for 30 seconds, 900 damage cooked and sticks around for a minute.

>>15816929

im not sure the damage is fixed though. i think its proportional to the HP of whoever gets hurt. but i haven't really bothered testing it.

>>15817066

i guess i wasn't taking enemy defense into account.

>>15814009

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DvNDTmy_4P72C1ly4xMYItO6gb17EtdI3XuHFzAcX4Y/edit#gid=1353594331

39 always has steel

>>15817173

I got 3 from the UP box, they're getting sneaky on where DMs appear.

>>15817173

>tfw DM never

>>15817207

looks like that chinese army shovel turned mecha.

>>15817207

>rocket launcher has the same power as a fucking shovel but only 4 shots

WHO WINS?

a weapon designed to obliterate large areas through the use of a highly explosive material propelled with a rocket

VS

a garden tool

>>15817221

Well you gotta get close to the rocket faggot first

>>15817236

the only place where that is not possible is one of those really narrow hallways in D.O.D. areas and Candle Wolf areas. everywhere else, the rocket launcher is so easy to bait & punish.

>>15817352

>punish

its an AI script, you're not punishing anything.

>>15817637

are you the same anon who got angry about that word the last time?

>>15817756

wait for him to do the jump attack and attack him while he's down.

also when he does the fire/thunder whip, get close to him and start smacking him silly. he has a hard time turning around when he's shooting those whips.

>>15817756

That's the symbol for fight power, I think it's called. You can see it on characters as well. I think the number you see on the TDM results is the highest fight power of all their defenders.

The stat itself is just a measure of fighter level, gear, and decals.

>>15817848

so its like a gearscore or something right? i've been playing this game for 2 years on and off and i never knew what the fuck that number was.

>>15817982

i got Crowd Pleaser today out of a diamond mystery bag. about time those things gave me something useful.

Which day is skill shroom day again?

speaking of crowd pleaser. i ran some testing on ikegara and yes. it appears that the decal boosts your attack by 10% for each enemy that has detected you, EVEN IF ITS JUST ONE, to a maximum of five. that means that unless you're sneaking around and killing enemies before detection with like, well placed headshots, or a sniper rifle, the decal is essentially a free +10% attack for all weapons, and can go up to +50% if 5 enemies are chasing you. its not bad at all.

>>15818027

Thursday.

>Farming chemo-synth oils in the 40s

>Only two fucking oil rooms in the entire zone

>One of them is an end zone and the other is liable to get replaced by a shop floor

>Takaihe gets replaced by a shop 3 times in my 3 runs

>Get fed up with that

>Run a trash character to Takaihe and suicide

>Leave the hater there and keep doing runs

>Haven't gotten a shop floor there again yet

I don't want to jinx it, but I think I managed to get it locked into a combat zone.

>>15818730

Fuck, I knew it was too good to be true. I just got a shop floor. It was worth trying at least.

>>15818008

I got two of those out of gold bags.

>>15820423

Well just look at his team

>>15820615

nah, i dont think the meme runs that deep.

>>15820615

It's just because it's literally the first team, alphabetically.

It got huge because of that, and then it's size helped it grow even more.

>>15820734

>first team alphabetically

what about akita and alabama? do these niggas even know how to spell?

>>15820831

>Japanese States

>States

I thought they were provinces?

>>15820969

hot

>>15820969

Wew and I remember when people were outraged by that wrecking ball video.

The kikes really did a number on her.

>>15820989

>kikes

>implying she wasnt always a little slut with daddy issues

Now, the girls from icarly and other shows like that did get "influenced" by jews.

>>15821009

i've always thought this. i mean the greentext part. did anyone over at stormfront thought that maybe, just maybe, she was just a stupid fucking low IQ slut and that "that" is just her being as much of a horrible human being as she actually is inside? after all a large portion of your personality is genetic. maybe she was just a horrible degenerate all along and having the resources just allowed that to come under the light of stardom. i hope the girl that played megan is alright, she was really good in drake & josh

>>15821046

Dont worry, miranda cosgrove's parents realized that something weird was going on with all the "feet stuff" and threathened to sue the director if he kept up the bullshit.

so they expect you to spend 3 hours running to 90+ everytime you need black roids, and they expect you to run to 100+/120+ everytime you need the new red/purple roids? doing this shit takes several hours more.

>>15820969

Post the worst ones.

>>15820969

>(I can't even post the worst ones)

DO IT FAGGOT

>>15821256

Which stat are you trying to level?

>>15821647

im trying to max out my collector so i can move to the next "tier". and also to put 6th decal slot on all my defenders. but im not making much progress because i only get fucking blues and when i find a black one i get killed by the most bullshit boss in tengoku.

>>15821696

Yeah, I'm working on my shooter so I know your pain. I managed to pull 2 out of gold chests in the early 100s. Somehow I still ended up with more red roids than black that run though. I think I need 8 more to max the shooter, and then I'll get started on getting the rest skill slots. I really don't want to resort to using bloodnium for these things because it seems like a massive waste. It's easier to farm if you just go into tengoku for other purposes like +ing gear and let the roids come naturally over time.

>>15821729

i dont have a single red roid. and my highest floor is 100, which took me nearly 4 hours to get to.

>>15821738

My highest is 105. I think shooter and striker have a lot better damage than collectors which is a pretty important part of climbing. The bosses are definitely the hardest part of the climb, and treasure hunter can let you know when a challenge room has a boss. If there are 3 chests at the end of the room you know it's a boss unless you're on floor 100 apparently. Using that and which faction reward is showing up you can somewhat prepare yourself. If I'm on a D.O.D. metal floor and see 3 chests I pull the iron before going in to parry his scream. If I see 3 chests on a MILK metal floor I know to pop an umbrella rib or helmet shroom before going in so I don't die as soon as the fight starts. Good damage really is the best strategy though because the faster you shred everything the less time it has to kill you.

>>15820969

>wears fake breast outfit that looks nicer than her actual breasts

hah

>>15821880

>mad he doesn't get DM from Uncle Prime or bags

You probably don't have enough good luck in your life, remember to say your rabbits next month.

>>15821880

I didn't measure it, but I am pretty sure it took somewhere between 2.5 to 3.5 hours to get to 105. I think you're really underestimating the amount of damage a high attack stat adds. Collectors have about 150-160 dex when leveled mine is not uncapped so yours probably has more, and shooters get about 300. You're giving up half your damage for more bag slots. Rather than not playing a fighter type because you don't have the decals to back it up, I think you should not be playing a collector because it takes even more decals and gear to get those to fighting strength.

Once you have a 6th skill slot on a fighting class don't focus on roids anymore. Try to farm the tdm for decals to fill those slots with. You should at the very least be clearing the tdm list of anyone that has more than 50k kc everyday. What stops me from going to tengoku is mostly the knowledge that my bank is too full for my current inventory and I've got no where to put the stuff I'd bring back. Doing high reward raids is the best opportunity to use any golden mushrooms you've got clogging your bank forcemen null them and it's a waste to bring them to tengoku with the limited inventory. Getting in over your head and dying is fine. It's annoying, but you don't particularly lose anything. Don't open lost bags hoping for DMs. They're there to give you tdm blueprints, decals, and shit you immediately throw on the ground. You'll get access to a lot of recycle points when farming decals and those are really great now that you can buy purple metals. The helmets are worth looking at too if you want stat boosters. 16% more dex on the iron eagle RE is more damage than a barbel will give you, and it gives 9% health on top of that. It also requires less rebuying than a normal helmet due to its much higher durability.

Just brute force the mushroom stews over time until you get something usable. To give you a reference point I've spent 37 million and I've gotten 44 4* decals no serial killer or trigger happy yet. Barbarians seem pretty rare. I've only gotten 2 of them even though I've got a few 4*s that I have 3 of. Premium one shot one kill only showed up at 30 million kc.

>if you see stone pillars, its jin-die, if you hear an electrical buzzing, its goto, if there are no stone pillars and no buzzing, its either COEN or u10.

That is a pretty handy tip. It should make my defensive shrooms last twice as long.

>>15822130

yep. the kind of shit you find out if you're paying attention.

>16% more dex on the iron eagle RE

holy shit, no wonder people use that thing a lot. that's the largest stat boost i've ever seen in a helmet.

>>15822316

The clay RE helmet gets 20% life, -5% stam, and 5% strength. It would be a really good helmet for my defenders if candle wolf only had some pierce resist sets.

>>15823311

Yeah, this war started over the money to buy 5 aramid fibers being offered in my hernia. I just cleared my list, and some of these could have gone badly if I wasn't so liberal with shrooms. Nxixax there's a fire work launcher rage move at some point during his train platform and fuzzgug in particular had really tanky setups, and I ended up using a transparungus and gold stingshroom on both. I don't regret it at all. Not a single person on their team was under rank 70 either. I could see us actually losing this depending on how active they are and how the rest of our teammates preform.

>>15823323

i just destroyed fuzgug, he had the firework rage move AND a sniper rage move. but i was TOO STRONK and tanked through both. even so, this fight has been nothing like our usual list full of sub t4 targets

>>15823332

Add them to your favorites to look for more targets. I was doing random raids and stumbled across another rank 63, Pitho, from their team on the list.

i wonder how many of our guys are going to get disqualified. these guys have pretty damn good defenses. i had to use mushrooms against some of them.

>>15824007

The entire team is being carried on the back of mainly the two autists fuzzguz and Rood, neither have seemed to have wanted to stop and take at least a piss break.

>>15824725

the recoil of the gun launches the knives.

>>15825447

>>15825465

i tried to invade some rank 91 and lost. not even the t6 shooter with a +6 kamas and 1barbarian+1OSK was enough to break that nigger.

so im essentially disqualified from the fight. we already lost anyway. that gap is not gonna be bridged. they have less than 50 people and we have over 200.

guys go invade the german Fuurin777. he's rank 91 but has zero defense whatsoever. literally 2 naked fighters and 60k banks

>>15826677

What type of weapon is judgement day supposed to be? A hockey stick? Also what floor did those come from?

>>15826677

Page 13 as usual dubsman

>>15826708

Judging by BP placement and general shape, it's a hockey stick.

>>15826708

yeah. its a hockey stick. i mean its pretty obvious. but the attack is kinda low and those materials are insane.

>>15826745

Gonna guess, with that 20% fire, it inflicts burning. Also blunt instead of slashing, not that it changes much.

I feel like I'm hitting a wall here. I just picked up my first 4-star fighters, but when I get up to the 20's, my attacks barely do shit. Am I at the point where I need to start grinding R&D to get weapons up to the point of parity to continue? Most of my gear is 2-star, and my best weapons are probably the pitching machine, fire rod, and the +4 machete E, so I assume I'm just going to need to go collect materials to start powering up things.

>>15827231

Yeah, you pretty much know what you need to do. Make sure you're using the best damage decals you have access to as well. Don't use the 4 star ones that aren't premium though. That is a huge waste. In about 2 hours the tower will rotate to skillshroom day so you can get new ones. Then both Friday and Sunday will be shop day. If you manage to make it to floor 27 you can buy the materials to set yourself up for a really easy 30-40 run. The machete kind of falls off in the 20s because it jumps straight from the tier that corresponds to 10-20 to the 30-40 one. The longsword is an easily upgraded alternative. If you're fixed on the machete, you could get early War Ensemble reds by doing the kill jackson weekly quest once now and again after Sunday, but the steel it takes would need to come from the shop at 27, tdm bags, or more rarely farming iron floors in the 20s. The beam katana only takes two D.O.D. reds to get to that tier so it would be pretty easy to upgrade if you have it. I swapped over to guns during the 20s and the kamas and magnum worked well enough. Jin Die and Crowley pose the biggest obstacle with that option, and you're going to have to actually farm Jin Die or do gold chest runs.

>>15827231

I just killed Crowley, I recommend you to level up your Iron, even if you don't take it to the steel tier. 20-30f enemies, including Crowley himself, take a lot more damage from blunt weapons than slashing ones. Mi iron did twice the damage per hit than my machete, both upgraded to the same level and having the machete addict decal equipped.

>>15827581

got 1 DM too, rip our winning streak. goddammit im not gonna make it to buy all the NMH decals before the end of the collab at this rate.

start invading Maryland, bahrein and hokaido, they're weak teams and the closest that we got in terms of hate.

>>15827661

>get 0

THE POOR BABY

New thread >>15837414

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