311fae No.15768618
Post games that have tainted their series from the moment they were released.
067ba5 No.15768623
That's not Super Paper Mario
33f38c No.15768628
>>15768623
I appreciate you, anon.
d9aa39 No.15768638
>>15768618
I know some are apt to say Super Paper Mario was, but at least that one still had a sense of charm to the writing even if the gameplay was different. Still the start of a change for the worse with the series though, but I suppose Sticker Star and Color Splash being what they were makes it seem like SPM could have done far, far worse.
I honestly still have no clue who actually did the writing for SPM, and have checked both the NA and JP credits (the latter of which conveniently in English). There's no one listed.
311fae No.15768643
>>15768623
SPM's weird yeah, but I consider Sticker Star a more "tainting" game due to the devs going on record about wanting it to be the "new standard" of the series in interviews. Something they proved with Paper Jam and Color Splash.
002219 No.15768682
Not just for the mainline series but for modern Atlus too.
cd7ca3 No.15768683
Every metroid game after Prime 3
91b494 No.15768699
>>15768683
>Imblying any of 3D metroids are good
a70874 No.15768707
>>15768683
We already covered Metroid, see
>>15768680
ebb667 No.15768709
>>15768623
smartest anon in the thread
>>15768638
>>15768643
Sticker Star was just beating the dead horse. Super Paper Mario is the cancer that's truly guilty of killing the series.
311fae No.15768718
>>15768682
If we're talking Modern Atlus as a whole, wouldn't Persona 4 be patient zero of their common cancers?
002219 No.15768723
>>15768718
I suppose but Strange Journey was released afterwards and that was great. IV introduced Day 1 DLC that would plague future Atlus releases among other shitty stuff.
cd7ca3 No.15768734
>>15768680
> Windwaker
Faggots will say it's bait but it's true. WW wasn't terrible but it was a huge step down in terms of gameplay quality from OoT and MM. It casualized the combat and difficulty to (((appeal to a wider audience))) which every game after suffered the effects of. It was a disappointment to the fanbase who had been growing up with it at the time and after MM were expecting to have more hard-hitting themes intended for a young adult audience, but instead went with a BING BING WAHOO tier narrative and artstyle. Not that it was bad in itself but it was like putting shoujo manga in a shounen mag. Just complete failure to understand their own target audience. TP desperately tried to be "more mature" with its artstyle but seemingly forgot it was the mature themes in MM that made it good, not a gritty artstyle without any colors than brown and grey.
969011 No.15768970
Super Paper Mario is good in its own way. The writing was far out for a Nintendo game, but having you do very tedious shit like run on a treadmill for 30 minutes or walk through a completely empty hallway for 20 minutes is strange.
308925 No.15768979
>>15768734
>I want every game to be like Majora's Mask
Majora's Mask was only good as a one-off and trying to catch that lightning in a bottle a second time would be a futile clusterfuck.
a70874 No.15769026
>>15768979
>>15768734
Majora's Mask was an unfinished expansion pack. It was okay for what it was but it's not like it was some ideal Zelda should strive for. Wind Waker, on the other hand, was a total shitheap.
969011 No.15769029
>>15769026
>Majora's Mask was an unfinished expansion pack.
Zero people cared. A good game is a good game.
cd7ca3 No.15769121
>>15769026
>it's not like it was some ideal Zelda should strive for.
You're right, but it was the logical "growing up" of the series. It's something like what Toy Story 3 is for normalfags. There's more to feel in life than
>"Yippee! I'm gonna go on an adventure!!"
And unless you're a mentally stunted manchild that wants to hide from real life you look for stories that reflect these negative experiences that you can relate to, rather than infantilizing yourself with constant assurance that the world is a bright and cheery place where it's simple good versus bad and the former always wins with everything working out great in the end. If you surround yourself with nothing but childish ideas you will mentally remain a child. If you open yourself up to the cruelty of the world and let it wash over you like a forging fire, it will forge you into a man that is able to deal with the kicks and punches of life rather than curling up into a ball and crying like a 5 year old that didn't get two scoops of icecream for dessert. Unless of course you're a faggot that revels in negativity rather than accepting it and dealing with it like a god damn adult.
d488b9 No.15769128
>>15769121
I'm pretty sure Legend of Zelda is a children's series of game.
308925 No.15769138
>>15769121
You're autistic.
0fa260 No.15769149
>>15769121
those are compelling points anon, thanks.
which of these games where one plays as a small elf in shortpants should i choose in particular for the most profound mature themes?
cd7ca3 No.15769155
>>15769138
I know.
>>15769149
Just because you have mature themes doesn't mean it needs to be edgy realistic grimdark anon. No one wants videogames to be a worse mirror of reality.
c911a9 No.15769165
>>15768623
Super paper mario was at least a fun game.
Despite how breaking of the formula it was
308925 No.15769182
>>15769165
I played it for half an hour before quitting out of boredom.
392665 No.15769199
This is the biggest downfall signal
0fc8bc No.15769223
>>15768680
What's wrong about Fusion? I thought it was the last good Metroid.
>>15769110
SotN literally saved the Castlevania series and is one of the best sidescrollers of all times. Aria of Sorrow and Harmony of Dissonance are great too. If you're looking for a shitty Castlevania then try these "games".
8848d3 No.15769277
>>15769223
>What's wrong about Fusion? I thought it was the last good Metroid.
People don't like it because is very linear (probably more than Metroid 2.)
330df2 No.15769278
>>15768618
it's odd how both of these ended at 9 while wizardry ended at 8 and it was the best of the series
fc16d6 No.15769283
Another great series killed by the wider audience meme.
002219 No.15769287
c911a9 No.15769288
>>15769182
Your not actually supposed to grind in the Super Gerbal Wheel Room you know…
8848d3 No.15769290
>>15769287
Then someone will say BW, RSE or GS.
308925 No.15769292
>>15769288
Sorry, did I say 30 minutes? I meant 10. As soon as I started fighting enemies I realized it was going to be an extremely boring experience overall.
>>15769290
Pokemon Yellow.
330df2 No.15769295
>>15769278
though you could say 8 ruined ultima and not 9 but at least 8 didnt kill the series
polite sage because I intended to add this in my post but I forgot
002219 No.15769298
>>15769290
XY was the start of weak postgames, poor optimisation, genwun pandering, and lower difficulty. It's a huge step-down from BW2.
12c068 No.15769307
This one.
Not even because of the retarded subsections of its Western fanbase (which is pretty typical for any JRPG made in the 2010s) but because the game itself is painfully mediocre, was written by a complete faggot who kept rewriting it just so he can make sure his IRL waifu becomes the main star VA of the game, not to mention the fact that the character said waifu played turned out to be complete and utter shit to the point that Japanese fans raged against Bamco everywhere, leading to the VA apologizing for not doing a better job.
0fc8bc No.15769312
>>15769277
Speaking of Metroid. Are there any good romhacks? Preferably of Zero Mission or Fusion.
>>15769292
>Pokemon Yellow.
It felt like a quick cashgrab. I mean, if they make a game based on the tv show then they could've atleast add the Orange League to make it somewhat different from G/B/R.
6c9f6f No.15769329
>>15768734
When will windwaker haters ever learn, its time to pack it in Boomer
aae098 No.15769358
>>15769223
It's, eh, okay. But it's not a TRUE-vania.
8ec9c3 No.15769373
Not for the series but for the whole company.
84933b No.15769382
I'm sure all the kids who played these as their first entry in the series will disagree, too bad.
60ec80 No.15769383
>>15769373
But anon, that's not Chinatown
0fc8bc No.15769393
>>15769358
>not posting the best Classicvania
fa81c1 No.15769394
>>15769373
Did you mean: GTA4
San Andreas was and still is the best GTA game ever, for a ton of reasons
308925 No.15769395
>>15769383
Chinatown was good though.
2f33ca No.15769397
60ec80 No.15769399
>>15769394
This, though GTA4 seemed to have better game physics.
60ec80 No.15769403
>>15769395
>Hey remember GTA and GTA2?
>Yeah! let's go back to that but make it another GTA4 sidestory!
308925 No.15769405
>>15769403
It had the same setting but no connection to GTA4 and was its own, completely isolates story.
60ec80 No.15769408
>>15769405
>The title takes place in the Grand Theft Auto IV rendition of Liberty City, with the exception of Alderney.
no -story- connection, excuse me.
aae098 No.15769426
>>15769393
I still have to play that one. I've only played the PSP version.
fa81c1 No.15769428
>>15769399
Yes, I will admit, nothing is funner than cockpit view while mowing down people on the sidewalk with ragdolls. GTAV with the beach does this perfectly. ALAS, overall, GTA San Andreas is still, by far, the best game in the series
e2e091 No.15769449
>>15769165
>Platformer with damage numbers
>Platformer with no physics
>Platformer with fucking grinding elements
Okay, yes, fun.
>>15769283
OP is asking for signallers, not corpses.
3a43f0 No.15769452
>>15769394
For GTA, maybe, although it was still a great game for all its flaws and shortcomings
But for the company, Jewstar went to make Midnight Club L.A., which still is one of the best urban racing games to this day
b1de7d No.15769454
>>15769449
Generations was good.
8ec9c3 No.15769475
>>15769394
In retrospect GTA IV was a sound game but nowhere near the likes of Vice City and San Andreas, I have argued GTA IV's defense more times than a person should ever argue over the same topic multiple times however.
>>15769403
>>15769408
It had nothing to do with the other three games, and the isometric perspective and locations that it revolve around make it feel like an entirely new place.
fc16d6 No.15769483
>>15769449
X/XX are very different from World, and I wouldn't say X was a signaler of the end. It still had a lot of the core MH elements, just with extra shit thrown on top. I wasn't a huge fan of styles and arts, but the game could still be largely played more traditionally without them. World is a huge turning point and fucked from the ground up, and with how successful it was there is no going back.
>>15769454
I'd say more just "okay". Hypers are kinda shitty and they went way too far with non-hunting quests.
72f77e No.15769694
42f948 No.15769755
>>15769382
Why do you thing generals was the downfall signaller?
It probably diverged most from the regular series but wasnt a bad game.
RA3 was the first game that was major decline.
72f77e No.15769778
>>15769755
red alert 3 is generals 2
4d5cab No.15769787
>>15769110
But the PS2 games were the best after super castlevania IV.
b74a2f No.15769788
>Fuck your planning stage
>Fuck your 8 man squad
>Fuck your stat building
>Fuck your non-linear maps
>Fuck your weapon selection and customization
>Muh stream lining
>Muh wider market appeal
>Watch tactical shooter genre die in real time
>Noosechan.jpg
ae4243 No.15769801
>>15769128
So was Bambi and Charlotte's Web.
ec8fa7 No.15769828
>>15769382
Metroid Prime was a good game, and one that took up way too many hours of my childhood.
>t. kid who played Zero Mission first
3a43f0 No.15770104
>>15769788
But it was a Lockdown after all :^)
6ffbce No.15770125
Square was salvageable until Nomura took the wheel. Every one of their games after has continued the downward spiral.
9c4393 No.15770247
>>15769394
I remember when I first realized that the in-game camera actually saved screenshots to your computer. Maybe it's just nostalgia, but San Andreas was the last GTA game that gave me that strong sense of exploration while playing it.
edd081 No.15770276
>>15769223
Legacy of Darkness is actually fine. It's not 2D Castlevania good, but it's alright.
fc7c78 No.15770300
>>15769223
>What's wrong about Fusion? I thought it was the last good Metroid.
Walls of text. "Your next objective is exactly here, I will mark it on your map, and to prevent you from doing any exploration I will lock all the doors." Your progress being limited by what the computer would let you do rather than the powers you had gained yourself. Generally becoming a more linear and story-driven experience rather than being about the exploration and gameplay.
There were most definitely things to like about Metroid Fusion, but you can definitely see how it was an early form of the cancer that would later metastasize and kill the series.
041772 No.15770305
>>15769121
There is nothing wrong with taking a break in the cheerful media as long as you don't let it consume you though
b04f97 No.15770333
>>15768632
(you)
>>15768680
Zelda was fucked long before Wind Waker. LttP is debatable where the cancer began but OOT was significantly the point where the series got stagnate. New Super Mario Bros. is not so bad, it's biggest issue is how formulaic is become and how rote the on model aesthetic is.
>>15769196
Bethesda has never been good
>>15769199
>NISA
You win this thread
>>15769217
Bioware was also one of those companies that was never honestly good and was only living of the glory of its Forefathers Black Isle Studios.
>>15769283
I still have not played this game. I am in part hopping that this is just typical 8ch cynicism.
>>15769285
I never got into Pokemon, I imagine that Let's Go hitting over 3 million sales is going to kill the series for the core fans.
>>15769307
Tales of Graces f and Tales of Xillia where not too great ether.
>>15769373
But Anon the series was killed when it went third person.
>>15769374
Can't believe there are "nerds" here who will defend this trash.
>>15770125
Square had been on a downward spiral before Kingdom Hearts but it's success undoubtedly cemented its fate. Square is just now starting to turn a corner. Square redemption arch?
6ffbce No.15770348
>>15770333
only if FFXV was rock bottom and Dragon Quest XI was start of their rise from the ashes
6cf21a No.15770350
>>15768734
This.
WW was complete shit the moment that they showed the idiotic art style. From that point on, pretty much everything shit that people predicted turned out to be true for the game.
WW is the cancer that started consuming the Zelda titles.
>>15769199
True. If they got paid, no money shall go to those who paid them.
>>15770125
True, but put Final Fantasy 8 there instead of Kingdom Hearts. The moment that FF 8 was created was the moment that Square died.
94486f No.15770356
>Thread immediately turns into edgeposting
I love you too, 4ch /v/
Anyway, see pics related.
bcc404 No.15771984
c46df4 No.15772061
>>15770356
Exactly how is Civ5 relevant?
6ffbce No.15772090
>>15772061
Implemented 1 unit 1 tile gameplay which many people find inferior to multiple units per tile.
I have a 50 year old coworker who still likes to play Civ IV because of this.
363a11 No.15772142
>>15769285
EASILY the worst games in franchise history up until let's go
>slow as fuck
>pandered to nu-pokemon fags with retarded designs
>story was never the best, but went way off the rails
>GF tried to "balance" the gameplay and fucked it as a results. No abilities feel great to use as a result and never have again
>weak ass post game content
5735bd No.15772148
>>15769307
The prequel is okay, not great. The cast is good when they stop being edge lords, and they are a good break from the casts of more recent Tales games. However, its weakest part is the world, and that actually intrudes on, or defines some character interactions. Which it inherits from Zestria and it is fucking terrible, makes no damn sense and while world building is pretty weak in Tales games, it was the one where every time they started talking about the world I had an active dislike for it instead of just thinking "get on with it." This leads into the plot having potential, but being fucked by the setting being shit. The combat is also very questionable; I had fun with it, but it isn't what I would call good. Velvet is broken even if you are shit at the game, and the way combat works means that if you are winning, combat is going to continue to be a breeze.
618ee9 No.15772164
>>15772061
Civ games were the perfect "customize your empire feeling". Civ4 literally reached the peak when it's became so fucking precious it's started to give us mods like Fall from Heaven 2 and Fall Further.
Then Civ 5 came and dropped the nuke by gving good ideas executed badly (city states, 1 untie per tile, horrible AI, dumbed down options for customization) and it's fucking lacked everything what Civ 4 had.
Government types had zero personality. In Civ4 when you played a commie or a religious state it's really changed your playstyle. In Civ 5 its just about passive bonuses.
a10cb9 No.15772256
>>15772090
Death stacks are shit because the game poorly balances unit limits, Alpha Centauri did a better job by making units cost minerals/hammers which were important to a base instead of gold/energy which is pooled together and easy to acqure The 1 unit 1 tile limitation forces players to think more about how their units will approach other units/bases in order to succeed in combat better.
726ed3 No.15772635
>>15772164
Civ has always had bad AI.
ef9508 No.15772730
>>15772635
Civ V AI was immeasurably much more incompetent compared to Civ IV. In IV, while the AI is basic, they intuitively make sense, largely follow predictable patterns which you can plan around, barring a slight RNG. Civ V, on the other hand, was a mess of design decisions.There's a reason why people meme the AI is schizophrenic.
>Civ IV
>AI relationship with you is determined by clear, visible events (same religion, open borders, trade, gifts, etc).
>AI's behaviour towards you will be governed by their relationship
>AI largely behave realistically according to their geopolitical situation. Eg, weak AI would surrender to you, same-religious allies would support you if you ask them to help you, strong AI would bully you and demand tribute, etc
>AI largely can handle moving armies, and can sometimes send decent doomstacks to invade your land, as well as move units through the sea
>Civ V
>"Hey goy you're encroaching on my territory despite me forward settling you within 5 tiles of your capital. I declare war LOLOLOLOL."
>capture AI cities and raze them because fuck them, and also because AI can't handle 1upt and therefore you can steamroll them with a tiny army
>"H-Haha, this war isn't lost yet, I demand you hand over all your gold and cities despite me having no army as a precondition to peace"
>other AI: "I denounce you despite being the defender because you smacked our goy. This is despite us hating the goy attacking you. Tough shit bro."
>end up just conquering everyone to get them to fuck off
726ed3 No.15772734
>>15772730
Well shit, I'm too used to the community patch's AI then.
ef9508 No.15772750
>>15772734
Yeah, the fact that V needed a mod to fix their shit really just shows how bad the AI was in the base game. Firaxis lost most of their talent in the transition from IV -> V and that shows very badly.
Like this guy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soren_Johnson
9ff847 No.15772823
>>15769863
Have you tried playing FE5? Seems like it's a favorite of many
6db11c No.15772829
>>15770125
>>15770350
I'm sorry but I don't get what the fuck is wrong with you. FFIX was a gem and X had its flaws but it was passable, the true downfall was when square and enix fused, sealing both their fates
b04f97 No.15772867
>>15770348
>FFXV was rock bottom
I'd say Dragon Quest Builders and World of Final Fantasy was there rise from the ashes. Fallowed by Nier Automata, Dragon Quest XI, Octopath Traveler. Still not back to former glory but a small step in the right direction.
d32949 No.15772875
Something I've noticed is that the moment a major developer says "Trust me", you cannot trust them.
>"The fans just need to trust me on this one."
Said before the release of Silent Hill Downpour and Silent Hill Book of Memories.
>"I hope the fans will trust me."
Said before the release of Pokemon Let's Go Pikachu and Eevee.
Todd's said some variation of it before every major Bethesda release from Oblivion onward. Notably absent in all developer interviews for Fallout New Vegas.
351dfe No.15772905
>>15772823
Thracia is a flawed piece, its decent and somewhat cheap(imao random warp tiles); its difficult in a lot of places and introduced cool mechanics(rescue and capture) but also had full meme mechanics(movement stars).
Its differently a good game though i feel, the soul of FE was sorta lost post Kaga.
The actually killer of FE was 12 though, the playable avatar is one of the greatest cancers of current FE.
6903e3 No.15772975
>>15772510
Wrong, here's the right answer
311fae No.15773579
>>15769223
What problems did the 64 games inspire for the series?
c86d4c No.15773613
>>15772975
>>15772510
WoW was never good and its release marked the end of not only its franchise but of its entire genre.
bd3ac0 No.15773622
>>15769755
Im pretty sure some things are just reskins from tib wars (esp. the USA lazors).
Also wtf was that supply gathering bullshit
d488b9 No.15773633
>>15769223
>SotN literally saved the Castlevania series and is one of the best sidescrollers of all times.
I didn't say it was a bad game but it did fundamentally change the gameplay of the series from there on out. Which if you loved the gameplay of the Classicvanias that's not such a good thing.
8ca473 No.15773744
>>15772975
BC was the pinnacle of PvP and WotLK was the pinnacle of PvE for WoW.
21eceb No.15773835
>>15772905
I'd blame 11. Playable avatar is definitely worse, but the problems began with being able to change classes (not promotion, but like changing a cavalier into a mercenary). The series shined when it was about war and your dudes and wasn't a fucking waifu simulator.
What pisses me off the most is whenever normalfags hear me make that argument, they point to the fact that character supports and marriage have been in the series in some form ever since Genealogy of the Holy War, but completely ignore the fact that every female character is now a waifu for you to marry with retarded-ass love confession bullshit. Saying "X and Y married and did Z" in the epilogue is one thing. The bullshit Awakening and Fates and so on do on the other hand is what takes it over the line from wrapping up a character arc to mindless waifuism and undermines the tone of the game.
459ba7 No.15775546
>>15772148
>Zestiria was the first Tales where the main characters are obviously set up as fujoshi and yurifag bait
>Berseria has a stronk wymyn as protag (granted, Velvet was actually stronk but still) with obvious /ss/ connotations
>Baba lied again about a lot of stuff on top of having ruined Zestiria the game with his IRL waifufaggery
>the translations for Zestiria showed some minor but obvious signs of pozz
>nips raged about Zestiria the game and preferred Zestiria the anime
Dying franchise.
8d17d0 No.15775626
>>15769307
>Zestiria
That's not Graces. Graces was much, much worse and signaled the genuine downward trend of the series:
>Buggy, horrible release with save-deleting glitches and various progression-stopping bugs centered around NG+
>Shitty dungeon design
>Horrible child arc that lasts hours
>Cliched characters with a cliched plot down to the demon-infested traitor-rival
>Boring music
It then went immediately into Xillia, which was a much better game still filled with stupid shit like forced cinematic combos and a shitload of costume DLC. It got worse from there.
833f2a No.15775679
>>15769149
Quality zelda games.
MM
Oracles
A link to the past
Everything beyond those games is a rehash or jumping on a trend. I could not bear to stomach playing oot again because..when you beat it once The story retread there are little feels to be had. However the themes in majoras mask. the wit of the oracle games and the just pure awesome gameplay of a link to the past is hard to replicate.
Star fox 64 is lightning in a bottle. Star fox adventure was a shitshow and nintendo should not have told rare to make dinosaur planet into star fox adventures they hated being forced to do it you could tell from the dumb decisions rare made in dinosaur planets production.
78d0e0 No.15775696
>>15772875
Yeah that's a sure sign that the developer has their doubts about the project.
b8039d No.15775720
>>15770333
MH:W is good for mindless fun, but it lacks the depth of previous games
it's not great as a monster hunter game, but it's honestly not as bad as everyone says
and goddamn those walk animations
363a11 No.15775737
>>15772867
Dragon quest xi was over hyped trash
>to easy
>boring progression tree instead of old skill up system
>annoying party members except for mommy jade
>predictable story
>no real dungeons
>no real bosses, mainly reskinned basic monsters that you have to fight TWO! SO BOSS LIKE OMG
>no random encounters
6fef50 No.15775743
>>15769358
>TRUE-vania
>none of these games involve terrible stiff jumping
Casual.
652849 No.15776275
>>15769394
The thing is, graphically and level design wise no other GTA comes anywhere close to it for me. New GTA is all about its oh-so-great graphics, but nowhere in the game do I think that the locations I am seeing are anywhere near as awe-worthy as they are in San Andreas. Maybe it's just simple enough for fantasy to fill in the rough edges. It's often the case that low poly graphics can be called more beautiful than ultra high poly shit that tries to imitate reality.
cd7ca3 No.15776346
>>15770333
> OoT
> anything other than the highest point of the series
> ALttP anything other than mediocre
Go away EgoRaptor. Go fuck your ayyyy wife to make yourself not feel like dank of loser shit you are. If you're lucky Jamal won't have came inside her before she makes you eat her out.
1b3c82 No.15776362
>>15775720
It's a very mediocre game with horrible choices (time gated quests, paid DLC etc), making it by far the worst monster hunter. And on that note, this game is the one that showed how horrible the franchise was going to get. As soon as hunter arts were revealed you knew that the old monster hunter was dead, and it was just going to get more casual from there.
fa81c1 No.15776601
>>15770247
I completely get what you mean.
and if you want a similar game that is just fulled to the brim with shit to explore for, I unironically recommend Red Dead Redemption 2
354d11 No.15789854
482e38 No.15790515
>>15769121
>like what Toy Story 3 is for normalfags
As opposed to hardcore gamer series Zelda. I appreciate your anime villain tier monologue
5adf81 No.15790548
>>15768618
Remember when this was supposed to be a sequel to SMRPG?
6effaf No.15790664
>>15770247
I played that game at least 3 times, trying to 100% it everytime but kept losing the saves due to reasons. No other game came close to the feeling of adventure in SA. I still remember feeling genuinely relieved when the cops threw you into Angel Pine, and you realize that Carlos is still around to have your back, Katalina missions were the only blemish on that game
>>15770333
>Any popular game is he start of a decline for series
>Not the game that came after that actually started the decline
49c9af No.15790984
>Despite having real controller controls mapped out thanks to PS2 version, Wii version forces waggle
>Wii version has MULTIPLE extra characters that the PS2 version doesn't
>Wasn't as good as Save The Earth
>Was the final Pipeworks Godzilla game
Then there were no good Godzilla games beyond this point.
>>15768680
>Fusion was a downfall signal
>When Prime 2 came out after
Shit opinion. Prime 3 or Pinball was the turning point.
>>15769283
Generations was the real turning point. The second they dropped the more grounded combat and added crazy anime shit to the combat was the second I knew the series was going down.
59810c No.15791021
>>15776346
OoT is literally ALttP in 3D and filled with cutscenes.
ad923e No.15791033
>>15790548
>not Super Paper Mario
SMRPG wasn’t as charming as the Paper Mario games
c577ef No.15791142
>>15773948
I still have yet to bring myself round to play more than 5mins of that streamlined shit
I uninstall every time
>someone mentions deus ex
>reinstall every time
>someone mentions IW
>uninstalled every time
d488b9 No.15791175
>>15790737
Bloodborne is the best Souls game that Miyazaki ever made.
07137c No.15791193
>>15791024
This. So. Fucking. Much.
5735bd No.15791264
>>15775546
I'm not disagreeing on Zestiria, I've heard nothing good about it. Even people who normally only say good things about the most shitty things trash talk it. Berseria had potential, but was worse off for being connected to Zestiria. The /ss/ romance at least served as a part of the development of Phi's character, which was pretty good, however, a lot of the stuff related to that was just fucking bad and served as melodrama or for cheap, unnecessary twists. Velvet is also interesting because the entire point of her character arc is breaking her character of that. The franchise is probably dead by this point, but for a last game, it could be a lot worse than Berseria.
>>15775626
Don't forget Alvin betraying the party over and over again and the party keeps letting him back. I know the Tales games have their obligatory traitor characters, but it was so fucking ridiculous in that game. That was also terribly unfinished as there were supposed to be two routes, but one was only partially developed and they have weird discrepancies like how competent Jude is at dodging.
90eccc No.15791382
>>15791175
I didn't say it was bad. In fact, it's quite good. It's just that the influence of Bloodborne was so noticeable in Dark Souls 3 that it made me pretty much hate Bloodborne in retrospect.
a70874 No.15791722
>>15791024
Like Half-Life was ever that great to begin with.
362592 No.15791732
>>15790984
At least cross well really double cross didnt have too much problems, it was a step down and a wrong direction of MH4U but at least it was still Monster Hunter, and I think the only problem was monsters didnt simply have enough health.
17e804 No.15791760
>>15768723
Doesn't matter when Atlus learned they were able to milk the 4/10 waifus of Persona 4 for 10 years and then corrupt persona 2 by remaking it with persona 4 tier waifus and gameplay.
4f0949 No.15791884
This game ruined everything the Zelda series had going for it to appeal to casuals. I fucking hate Zelda 2 but at least it had some structural similarities. Link to the Past just ruined everything and I've never liked one of the big "main" Zelda titles as much since, unless you count Majora's Mask. Wind Waker and Breath of the Wild come close but they have the same problems as each other if you look closely. At least the handheld games were pretty good until the DS era.
0ebf5d No.15791962
>>15791884
>alttp bad
>botw good
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a70874 No.15791972
>>15791884
Link to the Past > pressing the pause button literally every five seconds to change your A and B button binds.
b39ae3 No.15791997
>>15791193
what's wrong anon, don't you enjoy MANDATORY VEHICLE SEQUENCES
4f0949 No.15794475
>>15791962
BotW isn't good. It's a step in the right direction. Unfortunately that step was in some wet shit, which caused them to fall down a flight of stairs into an open manhole and proceeded to drown in shit. This is opposed to Link to the Past which is just shit. Like I said, it and Wind Waker share a lot of problems. The only difference is BotW stops holding your hand very quickly, as opposed to Wind Waker which doesn't stop holding your hand until the fucking endgame. Do you want me to make a fucking map for you? Because I've been meaning to do a comparison of the maps of Hyrule Legend, Wind Waker, and Breath of the Wild to see what the content distribution is. The first two are sectioned off into blocks so that should be fairly easy, while BotW has some fancy map site with icons and shit, I could probably change some colors on that and be good.
45bf71 No.15794503
The NFS series would've been better off adapting Initial D instead of Fast&Furious.
a3c33b No.15794553
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>>15768734
>It casualized the combat and difficulty to (((appeal to a wider audience)))
What's funny is that it STILL wasn't dumbed down enough for some people.
Seriously, how can one man be so incredibly uncoordinated?
b04f97 No.15794556
>>15790664
>b.b.b.but alot of people like it!
Yes, because it's that shitty overrated "popular" game the developers try to emulate by catering to its worst aspects of the newly formed fan base. Populism is inherently a quest to cater to mediocrity and disenfranchises the people who were loyal core fans from the beginning. Also, an argumentum ad populum is fallacious reasoning.
>>15776346
>some literally who e-celebrity
kiddo you need to take your faggot ass back to reddit.
a3c33b No.15794572
>>15791884
>Alttp ruined everything to appeal to casuals, but two of the most objectively casual games in the series came close [to being good(?)]
What the fuck?
4f0949 No.15794612
>>15794572
It came close to the feel of the original game you mongoloid. Then again no other Zelda game really even tries to, not even the one that started out as a remake of the first game. Of the two styles, the Oracle games are the best of the inferior one. The ironic thing is, the Oracle games are the Zelda directorial debut of Hidemaro Fujibayashi, who much later directed both Skyward Sword and Breath of the Wild. He's also big into the first Zelda, unlike Aounuma who never beat it. If I had to pick somebody to fuck around with the Zelda series, he's probably the best choice because after fucking up spectacularly, instead of doubling down he went back the the drawing board. I respect that, compared to Aounuma who just made the same shit over and over but worse every time.
c267e0 No.15794692
They really dropped the ball with this one gameplay wise. SA1 was a good start, not perfect of course, but it should've been the standard for 3d modern sonic. Instead of improving things from the first SA2 takes one step forward and two steps back. It's not bad, but it's where modern sonic started to go downhill for a good period of time (though we did get some good titles before Colors).
>Sonic levels are now more linear and hallway-like except for Final Rush
>The Mechs are clunky and unfun
>The treasure hunting straight up sucks
>Almost everything sonic can do is mapped to one button
At least multiplayer was good.
b7094f No.15794709
>>15770356
>PoE
But Pillars didn't signall the downfall of any series. It was garbage from the start
>>15791024
Agreed. The first one was a well-executioned kind of mediocre, the second was just shit.
df4f84 No.15795793
>>15769199
NISA is worse than LJN.
80c7e8 No.15795797
>>15794709
>It was garbage from the start
Well, yes, and so is PoE 2 so it simultaneously created a series and killed it. That's quite a feat.
df4f84 No.15795816
>>15794595
Ruby and Sapphire were great through. Emerald was even better. Diamond and Pearl on the other hand were the worst in the series at least until X/Y and Let's Go came out and made every other Pokemon game look good in comparison.
df4f84 No.15795818
>>15794692
I enjoyed SA2 more than the first one.
df4f84 No.15795830
>>15794709
Half-Life 2 has good sound design and also gave us G-Mod, a fun sandbox to play around with.
7c9b41 No.15795847
>>15794709
I wouldn't say it was shit as much as it was a glorified tech demo.
df4f84 No.15795848
>>15772975
the only people who hated BC were lorefags and those that never liked WoW to begin with.
7a6f04 No.15796063
>>15772510
More like.
I always wondered how a genre switch would affect the progression of a story. Because in an MMO there's an enforced parity between two factions because balance, but maintained conflict so PVP doesn't go away.
c039a9 No.15799808
Hey, remember how the previous games were all dark political intrigues in a relatively realistic modern world setting? Fuck that, you're getting grimderp deeply-conflicted Hollywood Action Hero Sam who canonically burns his ties with America in the epilogue. If that's not action hero enough for you, just wait until Conviction comes out; our executives are sure you'll love it.
377463 No.15799821
>>15799808
Does anyone even remember who the bad guys were in each of the splinter cell games?
71b3fb No.15799824
>>15769382
Honestly, if you didn't approach Metroid Prime as a Metroid game, it was a lot better. Sort of like Hitman Absolution. If you could forget the brand name that they carelessly slapped on, you could enjoy the game.
5745c9 No.15810069
>>15799821
Chaos Theory had nationalist japs.
5745c9 No.15810072
>>15799808
Also the bad guys are white americans trying to defend their freedom.
e67edb No.15810194
>>15794692
Me and my big sis used to play on the Chao garden all the time. It's all I go to when I replay the game now and then.
fd9ab9 No.15811829
ffbe8c No.15811956
>>15768680
NSMB is actually a really good Mario game, it's every one of its sequels that is shit. All the post NSMB games are made by inexperienced dev teams.
I'll do you one more and post the games that ruined vidya for everyone else instead.
a70874 No.15812732
>>15811956
>NSMB is actually a really good Mario game
Underage shit-eating faggot detected. NSMB is a piss-easy lazy rehash pile of garbage that ignores some 5 or 6 2D games full of innovations to pander to retro nostalgia hipsters. Protip: all of the NSMB games were made by inexperienced developers. The very first game itself was made by the Brain Age developers.
6bcf61 No.15813560
>>15811956
>getting over it
This was forgotten in a week, how could it ruin anything?
7ac717 No.15813818
>>15769307
I liked Berseria.
Symphonia 2 was also good with the JA voices.
ffbe8c No.15814780
>>15813560
>how could it ruin anything
It introduced the chink menace to the streaming world, so if that wasn't cancerous enough it finally started getting the PRC to look into vidya and censoring it to hell and back and forcing other companies to do the same in the West.
>>15812732
I'm not saying it's the best, it's playable though.
224db9 No.15814813
>>15769110
Best game in the series. Still unmatched. Excellent gameplay, graphics, and music.
224db9 No.15814816
>>15794692
This was the high point of the 3D sonic series nigger wtf are you even talking about.
5faeda No.15814835
>>15796063
As if WC3 story was good. "rape orks are actually dindus and everyone teams up to fight evil demons together".
67a53a No.15818923
>>15814835
>rape orks are actually dindus
I fucking hate the orcs are noble savages bullshit. Terrible cliche to rely on and there's no coincidence it came out right as the generation who allows rapefugee invasions was growing up.
c6dd75 No.15818965
The axis losing World War 2 was the worst thing to happen to the video game industry tbh
9da9de No.15819099
>>15773613
WoW was good at one point. Looked at through 2004's eyes it was the EQ formula with an absolutely massive amount of polish. To say otherwise is to have either not been there or to have forgotten how bad things used to be in the MMORPG space.
c5da78 No.15819187
>>15818965
I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that one. Had they won I don't think they would have gotten anywhere near fucked up enough to be producing the games they do on this timeline, the Japs that is. That them losing fucked up a lot in general I won't argue with that, but videogames specifically I don't think they would've even be a thing. I don't know do holodecks count as videogames?
183522 No.15819202
>>15810072
Fitting that a game where you play as a ZOGbot has you fighting white American patriots/nationalists.
b04f97 No.15819343
>>15775737
>to easy
Play it on Draconian mode dumb nigger.
>boring progression tree instead of old skill up system
There was no skill system in the old games you just got spells unlocked at various levels.
>predictable story
It's a Dragon Quest game you faggot, the stories are always wholesome black and white, Good vs Evil. The story is not the appeal of Dragon Quest games.
>no real dungeons
I'll give you that one.
>no real bosses
I see you never played it on Draconian mode.
>no random encounters
This is also not entirely true because there are random encounters when you are out at sea. Although I Chrono Trigger/ Earthbound encounter system in theory. The problem with XI was that is was too easy to avoid all encounters.
b04f97 No.15819348
I preferred* the chrono trigger encounter system.
4a7b6d No.15819539
>>15769121
>There's more to feel in life than
>>"Yippee! I'm gonna go on an adventure!!"
But that's literally what adventures are. What else is your take?
>OMG THE WORLD IS IN SOME GRITTY DANGER!
83a773 No.15819719
>>15794709
>hl1
>mediocre
kys
0c2bd7 No.15819845
>>15794692
Adventure 2 was objectively the only good 3D game. The hard mode missions also gave the game significantly higher replay value, with the exception of the cocksucking car levels.
Adventure 2 was really just Adventure 1, but playable, and with more content. The only thing 1 did better was having a hub.
8a7503 No.15819929
>>15769192
Its funny cuz its the best re game
5s coop is really fun
But its not as good as 4
6 is garbage tho
f61c00 No.15820924
>>15768734
>WW wasn't terrible
Yes it was.
f621c8 No.15820943
>>15769371
That fucking game. The fires of my hate will never go out.
5adf81 No.15821042
>>15812732
>piss-easy
As was every single Mario game up to that point, excluding 100% Yoshi's Island and Lost Levels. And hell, the addition of star coins added
>that ignores some 5 or 6 2D games full of innovations
Which are what, exactly? Gimmicky powerups? If that's the case, I agree, 3 had some great powerups, but they're one-offs. Their inclusion in 3d Land and NSMB2 was the real laziness. NSMB was the first time since Land 2 (read: 14 years) that they actually tried out new powerups (unless you consider Yoshi's Fire Breath in 64DS). The level design wasn't really great for taking advantage of them, but they did try some fun stuff. In better designed stages, the Koopa shell could have been fun, and the Mini Mushroom was great as well. I'd say that pretty much every powerup attempted past this, in NSMBWii, U and the Galaxy games were shit, as everything they did could have been done otherwise by just platforming, and half of them were derivative of older powerups in general.
Aside for that, what innovations are you referring to? Stage themes? They have always been shit, don't kid yourself, and Land 2 was the sole fucking exception. Moveset? NSMB added various 3D moves into 2D like the ground pound and wall jump, moves that are fucking great and make even regular Mario fun as hell to play as. I fail to see the innovations you're talking about.
No one's arguing that the sequels are lazy as shit. And yes, the music and art-style are crap. But NSMB is exactly where 2D Mario should have gone. They just had to build on it and, instead, they made shitty multiplayer focused side-grades with gimmicky non-powerups.
Here's another way to look at it: New Super Mario Bros should have been exactly what it's called: the NEW Super Mario Bros. The game to use as a template, the game to build upon. It wasn't, and that's why it's so despised.
5745c9 No.15824002
>>15769371
Please don't remind me.
e15987 No.15824020
>>15791382
What? Why? DS3 wasnt ever supposed to be a thing, Miyazaki didnt even want DS2 to be made. It's certainly not the most original game in the franchise, but it's still a decent title, and definitely doesnt qualify as a downfall
6504cf No.15824157
This game marks the point where they started creating mediocre to shit shovelware titles. Since this game, they've released 4 more of these things, and if that isn't already bad enough, Team Clash was riddled with microtransactions.
This game also marks the point that mainline titles have been lackluster at best. >Rainbow Curse
A barren game that relies heavily on artstyle with no substance and was quickly forgotten after release.
>Triple Deluxe
Puts so much emphasis on the multi-plane and miracle fruit gimmicks that it often completely forgets to focus on fleshing out the core gameplay loop. It exaggerates the worst features of Return to Dreamland without the ability to play with other people.
>Robobot
A brief light in the darkness that's often considered to be quite good. A strong case could be made for it being a very flawed game since levels often pull away from core gameplay to force you into the armor (though they often made it skippable, which is a significant step up from Triple Deluxe). The amount of asset recycling from Triple Deluxe is unacceptable.
>Star Allies
Very short and was released far before it was ready, so the team has been adding content since release to compensate. Despite their fluffing, they haven't been able to improve the core experience. Essentially, you can play the game with a couple dozen characters but the game is still lackluster and disappointing no matter who you choose.
In a massive step back from Return to Dreamland, the game also forces you to have a team to get collectibles and progress in levels. The sheer damage output and elemental upgrades provided by a team means that you are forced to experience a gimped version of the game if you choose to play it singleplayer like a standard Kirby title. Even worse, the bosses are still largely balanced around 1-player gameplay and you can chew through their health bars at the speed of light. They even let you take teams into the boss gauntlets, and considering that some allies can spawn health items, it makes the central gimmick of the mode irrelevant. This issue has proven to be so prominent that the developers had to design an entire new boss rush post-release to address the complaints – and an optimized team still blows through it without the slightest hint of challenge.
I sincerely hope HAL gets it shit together with the next release. Kirby is fun but they seem to be trying their hardest to undermine that.
8f17e7 No.15825420
>>15794595
Correct. R/S is the point at which the games started to focus more on the silly writing and started the save-the-world plot that's been in every game since.
c039a9 No.15826557
>>15819343
I mainly picked up the game because I was hoping the protagonist was actually going to be the descendant of the Dragonlord, as was rumored before the game released. It was foolish to expect a twist like that in a DQ game, but I still hoped and ended up disappointed.
On a separate note, I am mildly annoyed that they ditched Lamia/Empyrea in favor of some shitty whale.
26b882 No.15826573
>>15768623
This anon gets it. SPM was pure trash.
fff45a No.15826582
>>15824157
Kirby is like pizza. Even if it's a shitty pizza, it's still pretty good pizza. That said you are correct. They've been shitting out kirby games left and right with no thought put into them, and I kinda blame the shift to full 3D graphics.
803808 No.15826594
>>15824157
KFDX would've been a great competitive Kirby Smash if they tweaked animation lag and gave it online multiplayer. Something about pitting abilities against each other, instead of getting the fastest time on the True Arena with the weakest one, astounds me.
803808 No.15826598
>>15825420
While I agree on the whole "save the world" aspect, I think story is necessary in Pokémon, as long as it's not heavy and carrying an agenda.
c039a9 No.15826927
>>15826573
SPM was more like 'eh' tier, it just seems like pure trash compared to PM and TTYD. Granted it was the turning point for the Paper series, but the series didn't start genuinely sucking until Sticker Star came along. Color Splash wasn't as shitty as SS, but it still inexplicably adhered to the garbage "consumable actions" mechanic that nobody outside the design team liked.
a70874 No.15827057
>>15824157
Oh you wanna talk about boring low-effort trash in the Kirby series?
a70874 No.15827066
Some of us who were fans of the Kirby series when it started actually remember the turning point when they stopped trying with Kirby games.
502faf No.15827131
>>15827066
I had the misfortune of having my first kirby game be superstar. I was 7 when that game was released and that year I got a kick ass rc car race track. That Christmas was awesome. I played every Kirby game since and nothing came close to the magic that Superstar was except for the racing game.Air ride was really good.
fd9ab9 No.15827940
>>15827069
Back to cuckchan.
6c6f4d No.15828863
>>15814813
Am I the only one who completely disagrees? I enjoy most of the Metroidvania games, but SotN is super easy, has weird non-Castlevania music, weak story, anticlimactic Dracula etc. The graphics are nice looking but the rest of the game isn't good or particularily fitting for a Castlevania game.
I really love Aria of Sorrow, and Portrait of Ruin and Order of Ecclesia are good, but SotN just is not a good game.
354d11 No.15839890
>>15818965
It's the worst thing to happen to the entire world. We'd be on the moon by now if they'd won.
a6d71c No.15843527
>>15769382
Motherfucker how dare you, Metroid Prime is the ONLY game to ever successfully execute a first-person exploration platformer well outside of its direct sequel. If anything it should be Metroid Prime 3, which turned the series into Halo with less edginess and somehow even worse writing.
a70874 No.15844464
>>15843527
>execute a first-person exploration platformer well
lol
Here's how Prime should have been done. Too bad Miyamoto forced Retro to make it an FPS.
56ed6d No.15844469
>>15844464
first person movement made the game so slow
56ed6d No.15844472
>>15843527
didn't even see this shit post, back to your cuck cube kiddie
a6d71c No.15844573
>>15844472
Powerslave, really? That's your best counter-example? I'd hardly call that a platformer, but then again retards like you aren't quite literate are you?
>>15844464
That would have been pretty neat too, but it doesn't detract from the fact that Prime 1 is hardly the turning point of the series for quality.
368cad No.15844805
>>15770333
>bethesda has never been good
But interplay before them was
edf802 No.15844930
>>15844573
>He hasn't played Powerslave
>He probably doesn't even own a Saturn
7ed3e2 No.15844942
>>15844573
>he hasn't played powerslave
>literally the game metroid prime ripped off to be remotely competent and it still fucked it up
tutenkhamenfuck yourself faggot
c0ce00 No.15844967
>>15844472
I remember getting stuck in this game and never being able to progress further, is the pc fan port good?
edf802 No.15844979
>>15844967
Yeah EX is quality, it landed the guy a job at Nightdive porting other FPS.
c0ce00 No.15844986
>>15844979
neat, I'll check it out then, I hope I dont get lost like I did years ago though
e2a9cb No.15845038
>>15844573
Here's another one if you're not satisfied. There's a mod that updates the user interface to be user friendly as well.
53eb50 No.15845536
>>15768623
the thing about super paper mario is that it still had a plot
sure things were very different, but the game was still decent, and the series still could have returned to its roots
that was actually what sticker star was supposed to be until a certain gook intervened, already angry about all the OCs that were in SPM
53eb50 No.15845541
>>15768718
What's really so bad about Persona 4?
a94aca No.15845600
>>15768618
Pretty much almost every game that got good enough for sequels that I liked would follow one of these patterns:
>GAME X1 good-great game, rough around the edges though graphics are kinda ugly
>GAME X2 decent-good game, mechanics have been polished either being expanded outdoing the previous game or only a slight cut of fat
<GAME X3 mediocre-decent game, mechanics have been simplified to the point where this is last place in terms of complexity in the trilogy. Noted that story has more emphasis then ever.
>GAME Y1 good-great game, mechanics are usually solid but graphics isn't it's strong point
<GAME Y2 mediocre-good game, graphics have significantly improved but mechanics have been streamlined and does not match up to it's predecessor
<GAME Y3 decade+ later sequel with a 50-50 chance the game isn't even recognizable as a Y series game anymore, if it is recognizable then it's just more of the same as Y2 but somehow worse?
>GAME Z1 great game, polished mechanics and good graphics for it's time makes you want moar
>GAME Z2 drops the ball and kills the whole thing one way or the other, every time
So yeah I don't really know where to start.
e36cdf No.15846377
>>15791024
Half-Life 2 is probably the ultimate 'great when it came out' game.
67a53a No.15847540
801dfa No.15847560
>>15847540
Except half-life 2 still is a good game
c6d2d2 No.15847681
>>15846377
>Half-Life 2 is probably the ultimate 'overrated when it came out' game
Fixed
>>15847560
>Except half-life 2 still is a shit game
Also fixed.
HL2 only seemed revolutionary if it was your first or second FPS, especially if all you knew was Halo.
0d70cd No.15847715
>>15794612
>It came close to the feel of the original game you mongoloid
BotW is complete trash. If it had dungeons it might have come close to the first game but they completely dropped the ball with shrines and the empty world. Please neck yourself.
a284a1 No.15848110
>>15847825
DR2 was great though faggot.
fc1665 No.15848207
>>15848110
Yeahit was my first entry to the series, but the prologue and epilogue were DLC, time managing was way easier compared to Dead Rising 1, costumes were MTX, combo weapons were overpowered, no infinity mode instead a repetitive mode to grind for money, and the change of tone for the series was apparent with DR2. Also, Off the Record should have been the original sequel, yet there were more DLC costumes and cheats were DLC.
DR2 was only good, because some of the devs behind DR1 worked on it with the new team. Once they were on their own, the series plummeted resulting with the studio closing their doors and hopefully the series does not get touched ever again.
533944 No.15848570
Seems to be the theme of this year
5745c9 No.15853093
>>15848570
Worst year since 2007.
1e12c5 No.15853244
>>15769283
The signal would be Monster Hunter X/ Monster Hunter Generations
b34c54 No.15853453
>>15827066
Crystal Shards and it's predecessor DL3 are still pretty good. I prefer them over SuperStar.
Despite being slower they're more polished and the level design is pretty good. Much better visual design too.
Combining powers with any other power/animal friends was much cooler than Followers, too.
Every kirby game since has been a Superstar clone, while it's also very good, I'd like to see another game using the old "Dark Matter Series" formula.
Also, the games that came after it were still good or at least alright, like the GBA and DS ones.
Epic Yarn was a fucking joke though, after that was Mass Attack that was also stupid but afterwards it was back on track with the wii one.
fd9ab9 No.15854064
>>15853093
2013 was even shittier imo.
8ec9c3 No.15854084
>>15769394
No, IV was still a good game with rough edges and the company still made Midnight Club LA and Red Dead Redemption but Leslie Benzies was the backbone of the whole company and with his departure it started to go to shit. GTA V is like Red Dead Redemption 2 but without the pozz in terms of gameplay and story if you don't remember anything about GTA V, and the online models for both are jewish as hell. I will agree that SA was the best GTA though, people who say Vice is the best are 80sfags or nostalgiafags.
c1bbf6 No.15863901
942ac6 No.15864515
6f9c98 No.15864569
>>15827066
>>15827057
>>15853453
It's like after the Wii version they just rehashed the game and engine itself 3 times just making it slightly shinier, kind of like with Smash.
4fb996 No.15864590
0f908e No.15864639
This is just an unpopular opinions thread mixed in with a bunch of shitty bait. Is this what because cuckchan split in two?
2b2dc4 No.15864776
>>15799808
Ubisoft has been really becoming shit around this time
>Rayman 4 fucking cancelled in favor of a minigame collection for the wii, aimed at normal fags
>Splinter cell conviction turned from focusing on hobo fisher trying to not get caught in public places in the city to the most generic third person shooter known to man, also because the initial concept did not appeal to normalfags
>The god awful reboot of prince of persia
There were others, but I forgot off the top of my head, point is that this was the point where ubisoft became EA tier cancer
67a53a No.15871832
>>15864776
That's roughly when Ubisoft started their diversity hires.
c039a9 No.15873085
>>15871832
Is that actually substantiated?
13d68f No.15876323
aaa2c5 No.15876380
>>15770333
>boohoo it went downhill with 7 because it got popular
Youre a fucking faggot
7-8-9 are great games and 10-12 are also good
its only with 13-15 that the series became shit
f0991f No.15876447
>>15799811
I remember playing through 4 with my buddy at his house the day it came out. He felt as hollow and depressed I did after beating Mass Effect 3.
b47c88 No.15876466
>>15794556
>being this new
f6c902 No.15876564
1d909e No.15877464
>>15876556
Console FPS were never good.
There was nothing to fall down from.
d66cb3 No.15877492
>>15770356
>civ v
>eu4
>>15789859
>>15791024
From the last game's tone and story, i 100% agree
>>15846377
It's was a good game for it's time, but it's wasn't really a HL sequel and yeah it's a bit over rated.
f5726b No.15877522
>>15877411
Empire TW was the true downfall.
936164 No.15877536
>>15768734
>BING BING WAHOO
Opinion discarded.
adeb2a No.15877554
>>15877536
>ribbit downboat
BING BING 1-UP YIPEEEEE
a70874 No.15882720
>>15877464
Perfect Dark was pretty good.