62e688 No.15766177
Game reviewers aren't being good goys today
9c4330 No.15766184
83c3f3 No.15766448
55 is too high for half-assed broken multiplayer only game.
fa626d No.15766454
f0499d No.15766465
>>15766448
It hit 23 awhile ago but (((Metacritic))) deleted 3 reviews which bumped it to 61 for a bit.
d23cc4 No.15766468
I'm surprised not many people defend this. I saw many people defending Diablo Immortal but not this one
f8facb No.15766477
TAKE ME HOME
TO A PLACE
I BELONG
WEST VIRGINIA
7d8bb0 No.15766486
>>15766468
Two things. For one, this is playable to the public so nobody is getting fooled, and also iAblo was outsourced giving them a plausible deniability excuse. This shit is straight up from the tap Bethesdashit and people are starting to notice it stinks.
4af986 No.15766500
Every once in awhile they need to martyr a true pile of shit to keep up appearances
1f2db4 No.15766509
Maybe they forgot they need to pay for good reviews?
e1a044 No.15766511
>>15766454
EA pays more then Bethesda.
d93eed No.15766517
>>15766177
There's just nothing to defend about 76. Normalfags like bethesda games because they're the only ones to deliver what they do, and all of it is sacrificed for multiplayer nobody asked for. No amount of goodies sent to redactions is going to change that.
0c08f5 No.15766526
>>15766509
>>15766468
They blew their shill budget on that Cuck and Morty stream.
2e0981 No.15766528
>>15766177
>55
>above average
If that was an identical release from a no-name developer, it'd be a ~30. They're still being good goys.
b578d2 No.15766533
Believe it or not a game being at 55 doesn't mean it's garbage,just that it's average
4af986 No.15766534
>>15766533
>All AAA games are reviewed on a 7 - 10 scale
>A 5 is just average
44ad3d No.15766539
>>15766533
Look around you who are you trying to fool
b578d2 No.15766547
>>15766539
I'm not trying to fool anybody,just saying it's an average game
0c08f5 No.15766556
>>15766528
Yeah they try to salvage the situation be going "it's not that bad it's average."
Also I love all those youtube shills exposing themselves. "Well umm… guys despite it's flaws I enjoyed playing it with uhmmm…. friends. Go and buy it for 60 shekels I'm sure they will fix it soon. Yes I got my copy for free…"
b578d2 No.15766557
>>15766551
I am merely stating a fact that a 5/10 is average you dingus
52d7cc No.15766562
>>15766533
>>15766534
no, anon, they're reviewed on an 8-10 scale
8 means that the game is sort of bad according to the reviewers, and they would make it have a lower score if they weren't paid to give it at least that much
less than anything below 8 means that it sucks, and less than 6 means that its horrible
if its rating was below 5, then that would either mean that the game is notoriously bad or that they were paid to give it a bad review, and/or that the game is pro-trump
17ea0a No.15766566
>>15766177
The game journalists are being entirely unobjective and are following the mass histeria that has been formed about this game. I think it is a high quality, player driven game. Seriously guys, just open your mind and create your own content.
d6beb8 No.15766571
>>15766557
Lamias are shit
44ad3d No.15766573
>>15766557
It is not so. Everyone here knows so. Everyone everywhere knows so. The scale is 1-10 on appearance only, popular games, heavily advertised games, games from established publishers with heavy ad marketing and immense shilling always are reviewed on a scale from 7 to 10.
You will try to deny it and be swarmed with replies and reaction images. You're either wilfully ignorant or malignantly trying to deny it for ulterior motives, probably a check in the mail with your name on it.
b578d2 No.15766578
>>15766573
I think you've just lost sight of what review scores actually mean now, but i doubt i can change your mind
>>15766571
You shut your mouth
44ad3d No.15766588
>>15766578
Because like I said everyone knows the truth already, you won't fool anyone with your faux appeal to reason. Post another lamia picture to derail the thread now.
7d8bb0 No.15766589
>>15766528
If it was 5 years ago that 55 would be a red score.
b578d2 No.15766596
>>15766588
I'm really sorry you don't believe me.
c6fb13 No.15766629
This shitty rating system is kind of like scores in university, except university scores make sense. You need to get at least 60% right (6/10) to pass (not be utter shit). And just passing is considered lame, so you gotta have at least 80% (8/10, ok game).
4384b3 No.15766633
>>15766512
Would they? 76 is so empty it makes FO4 seem bursting with content. The average player would overlook bugs if there was something resembling substance there, they’ve done it with Bethesda games in the past.
7d8bb0 No.15766639
>>15766629
And like universities they curve the scale to let the niggers get passing grades while everyone else gets fucked.
44ad3d No.15766646
>>15766633
They would say the game is stream lined and optimized to the new multiplayer game paradigm or some bullshit pseudo market speech. Like when Dragon Age 2 came out and it was stripped down to barebones yet everyone said that was an improvement.
6618d8 No.15766647
Gerstmann being honest as usual.
c7edf9 No.15766650
>>15766566
This, but unironically.
Everyone is in mass histeria over what is pretty much your run of the mill fallout game.
Once the dust settles i garentee you'll start seeing more /v/ anons playing and enjoying fallout 76, mods will become a thing shortly and most of the bugs present in the beta that somehow managed to get into release will be patched.
21e668 No.15766663
>>15766177
SHUT IT DOWN
ALL YOUR FUTURE PREVIEW COPIES ARE REVOKED
44ad3d No.15766667
>>15766650
>Mods
>On a centralized multiplayer game
Right.
ab7df2 No.15766673
>>15766650
nope not until the modding community has the tools and that wont matter in year when the playerbase leaves because Bethesda cant maintain any of their titles and breaks more shit that fixes for year
6618d8 No.15766675
>>15766659
>calls other people redditors
>sages to downvote posts like a redditor
ab7df2 No.15766684
this title has no real "content" to keep people around, theres nobody in the game to care about, no characters, everyone is dead
d93eed No.15766686
>>15766650
>your run of the mill fallout game
It has no NPCs or settlements, the world is entirely barren and cooperating with other players is useless. That isn't run of the mill by any standard of the expression. What it is is fucking nothing.
a48f4b No.15766710
Fallout Did Not Even Get A Rating of 76.
>>15766468
Sacrificial game to shit on to keep of the journo "cred" and also they probably didn't get review copies because Bethesda stop doing that.
89a782 No.15766712
>>15766557
You bring great disgrace to monster girls, please leave.
0c08f5 No.15766728
>>15766633
>>15766650
Bethesda games got a free pass cause everyone treated them as a framework for mods with something that resembles a game attached.
It all ended with FO4. It was such a low effort game it was insulting. Having such a budget they just ripped off existing mods (even radio playlists were fucking largely ripped off). But everyone thought fuck it I'll just wait for that GOTY version and mods but Beth screwed moders big time and Creation Club was a signal that mods are a thing of the past.
With FO 76 everyone knew that it's a mulitplayer game that's gonna have microtransactions so there will be no mods to save it. For the first time in decades it was all up to Beth themselves and they fucked it up big time.
82b76d No.15766740
>>15766686
no that's entirely run of the mill for a bethesda fallout game, they removed the dialogue trees and now robots just spout quests at you. It's absurdly dumb but it's just the obvious endpoint of all your answers being yes
a16779 No.15766770
>>15766177 (checked)
I noticed that a lot of normalfags have become very distrustful of reviewers recently, so the reviewers needed a victim and obviously bad game they could give a bad score to re-build credibility aka "Look goy our scores are totally not bought we also give bad reviews :^)". Especially after the huge reviewer vs costumer score difference on Battlefield V.
65a959 No.15766773
>55
>as in complely average
>no game ever gets below 70
What the fuck is this scale broken?
0155ce No.15766786
>>15766773
anything less than a 7.0 is a charity score. It's always been that way.If the game isn't 7.0 or better it's deemed bad and it's always been this way. The scale should just be 1-5 1 being the worst and 5 being the best. I consider this 50 percent score representative of an F grade and a 1 at heart.
Having a bunch of random 10s, 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s tells us nothing from a consumer review or a faggy journo.
d6beb8 No.15766796
>>15766725
>has 0 defense so he just doubles down
9739db No.15766818
>>15766454
All that says is that EA pays while todd is a fucking cheapskate
c27c18 No.15766853
>>15766770
Journos are dying
Everyone and their mothers knows this, everyone is moving on to Jewtubers/Streamers and even the journofucks are following their trends despite not getting half the views or even a bit of the market share.
0155ce No.15766866
>>15766858
One day you wake up trapped in this body what do?
c5a0db No.15766870
>>15766866
Am I actually mark or just have his body?
9739db No.15766871
>>15766853
Journos have been dead since 2012, my theory is that the old fart executives still demand games get an 85 or else devs dont get their bonus so the latter still has to pay off these faggots for madeup scores
d93eed No.15766875
>>15766740
You can't just affirm 76 is like the others and then describe precisely how it is not.
>>15766858
Hi Aaaron.
d96442 No.15766896
>>15766770
There is still a discrepancy between user scores and "journalists" (prostitutes for game companies). 55 =/= ~2.7 at all.
82b76d No.15766905
>>15766875
What are you talking about, your choices being "yes, Yes, Yes, and yes (sarcastic)" is exactly the same as just having it forced on you
daeb4f No.15766912
>>15766500
This! Remember when everyone was shitting on Duke Nukem Forever, but ever other generic modern FPS was not, even though they are no better than Duke?
42aa9b No.15766921
>>15766770
Nobody reads reviews any more, especially normalfags… but you know what they do consider? Streamers. Twitch sold two of my normalfag fans on Fallout even after they had seen what a buggy mess it was. Streamers are where it’s at, and that’s why you have journalists going after them so hard recently.
Dunno if that’s going to be better or worse in the long run though. I guess at least streamers won’t be writing big brained articles defending Marxism in vidya tho.
0155ce No.15766936
>>15766921
Yea it's gotta be streamtarts who push this shit and jewtube "content creators"(aka people who suck at comedy that make "funny" gameplay videos because they need this gaming crutch because without it they are just dull uninspiring people) These are the new marketeers of vidya and I don't think these people are smart enough to conceptualize social justice in a manner that's consistent enough for them to properly use themselves as propaganda devices for leftist causes.
Streamers sell games(sadly nowadays retards not only need online guides, guides in the fucking game box, they also need some big mouth idiotic with a shitty personality to play the game for them)
0155ce No.15766963
>>15766912
duke nukem forever was only marginally worse than it's competitors I think the review bombing was more to do with the fact that the game took like 20 years to release.
9a5f04 No.15766970
>>15766858
Man, I'm ugly but Mark is on another level of being disgusting.
48a318 No.15766999
>>15766500
Yep
They wont touch the rest of aaa tho
Idk why people buy half the crap
Specifially fortnite
Assassins creed
Cod
And overwatch
Anything blizzard is actual garbage tbh the others mentioned are passable
e2cc7d No.15767017
>>15766177
>55 from professional shills reviewers
>for a bethesda game
It's almost hard to believe FO76 was this bad unintentionally. You think Tod is trying to sink FO so his new open world future game will get more attention?
7d8bb0 No.15767026
>>15767017
They're taking what was originally planned as a DLC for 4 and selling it for full price after seeing how all the addons bombed. Anything long term is merely coincidental.
a39aea No.15767031
>>15766448
55 reviewer score is basically giving the game a zero. their scale is basically 50 - 90 where anything below is "we stop getting shekels from game companies" and anything above is "i just took the money and pumped out a half assed review"
8fee4f No.15767033
>>15766533
Actually, it doesn't. Even GameInformer directly admits that a 7/10 means average on their scale. The gaming media inflates review scores to make games look better than they are, so that the publishers remain friendly and willing to give out exclusive previews and early review copies. It has been this way for over a decade. Review scores from most journalists are intentionally deceptive.
96103d No.15767088
>>15766468
>>15766710
And the fact that Bethesda is not pushing social marxism nearly hard enough to get that level of special treatment.
42aa9b No.15767108
>>15767033
I’d be okay with the inflated scores if they at the very least played the games and gave in depth reviews. It’s horrible when you finally realize there is nowhere to go to get a decent review of vidya any more. About the best you can do is wait a month after the release of a game then ask here.
081efa No.15767177
>>15766557
5/10 is only passable if it includes things you like. You can expect some normalfag to give some waifu simulator game a 5/10, but it would be a worthwhile purchase for a waifufag. See every Neptunia game. But this is a barely functioning game as is and it should be below 50.
f971cf No.15767203
>>15766454
Would be nice if they were shitting all over FO76 because they finally got sick of sucking Triple-A dick and they were finally ready to start being honest… But it's just that 76 is such a shitty, unbelievably awful game that not even journos can cover for it. I think the fact that it lacks in story and character interaction so deeply that turned them off completely. They can't even fawn over a STRONK FEMXALE CHARACTER or some attempt to stick it to the heteronormative patriarchal power system because there's just jack shit in that world for them to latch onto. Doesn't mean that they'll ever stop tonguing EA's asshole though.
519672 No.15767209
>>15766468
i guess those cucks remembered when they bullied shitaku
853d82 No.15767228
>>15766870
You're Mark. For real. In the real world. Right now. Hi Mark. You're a pretty shitty board owner all things considered. If you actually cared about /v/ more than just having a tiny amount of power over an irrelevant imageboard you'd have stepped down a long time ago.
bb764b No.15767237
Strange, did Bethesda forgot to bribe them or are they trying to tank them for the Doom trailer?
Also weird how they are throwing a fit for Underworld Ascendant. Refusing to review it and shit like that because of some bugs and glitches. I mean, have they played video games before? It's not worse off than most games, but that's the case if you don't bribe them i guess.
8fee4f No.15767258
>>15767237
Underworld Ascendant is so unpolished that gog refused to sell it. Gog was willing to sell Kingdom Come, for reference. That's nowhere near "not worse off than most games."
d96442 No.15767267
>>15767237
>shit like that because of some bugs and glitches
>>15767258
Any worse than how Fallout 76 would uninstall itself or crash or endless other bugs that were around or the day 1 patch that was about the same size of the game or bugs that have been around since earlier titles or etc?
61f910 No.15767413
>>15766557
In an ideal world:
>1/10
Unplayable.
>2/10
Pretty much the lowest a real game can get, barring a Big Rigs situation. Game works, but just barely.
>3/10
Functional, but likely isn't much fun.
>4/10
While base mechanics might be entirely workable or even enjoyable, numerous flaws drag it down
>5/10
Merely okay, having nothing about it that stands out or is particularly bad.
>6/10
Game that has some aspects that stand out but overall is still rather average.
>7/10
Strong, solid game, likely prevented from climbing higher on the scale due to some flaw present throughout.
>8/10
Great game, well worth a purchase
>9/10
Fantastic game that is nearly flawless and a great example of the genre.
>10/10
Nearly perfect, you'd only see this score handed out every couple years.
With a system like this, every rating actually has a purpose. Compare it to modern game reviews, where anything below a 7/10 is considered utter trash. And before people like >>15766604 start saying that "that's not how it works in school", educational grading systems are designed to test the gaps in your knowledge, where a 50% shows that you don't understand roughly half the material that was taught to you.
b578d2 No.15767422
>>15767413
I think that's the best way to go about it,yeah
e8ef88 No.15767537
>>15766571
Nah, but your waifu certainly is, my dude.
0a04c4 No.15767572
>>15766963
DNF really was that bad. Its gameplay totally, absolutely, undoubtedly sucked.
5c808d No.15767584
8cc542 No.15767608
>>15767413
I feel this, I rate most games I play a 2 or 3 out of 10. Some say it sounds unreasonable, but realistically if all they do is "run fine", then they haven't really earned any more points than that. Otherwise it's like saying the movie was average because it ended.
7638d5 No.15767637
>>15766667
>>Mods
>>On a centralized multiplayer game
It'll happen. What they'll do is try to only allow mods to be installed from Bethesda.net, and I wouldn't be surprised if their FO76 GECK/Creation Kit doesn't even save plugin files locally - but forces even works in progress to be uploaded to Bethesda's servers (just not made public until finalized and published). The "Private" servers are not user-hosted, but Bethesda's own "Private Server Service" and will come with a price-tag for monthly rental. Basically, it's just private matchmaking with a cover charge. When you set up a "Private" server - you'll be able to choose the loadout of mods you want applied. Each mod used will be flagged on that server - and when players connect to your server, the game will automatically download the required mods to that server's own local subfolder and applied when connecting to that server. You will not be able to use mods on your own game, unless you rent a server from Bethesda.
Don't expect private servers or "free" mods until the game has run the bulk of it's course and people are tired of paid mods. When they need to inject a bit of positive news in order to attract newer players and woo back part of their audience that left. The revenue lost by allowing "free Bethesda.Net mods instead of restricting it just to CC - will be more than made up for with private server rental fees.
048dd7 No.15767641
>>15766533
>>15766557
No, that would be a 6 or a 7.
<5 and below - Trainwreck
>6 - Mediocre
>7 - Average, or Mediocre with some paid reviews
>8 - Good, or Average with even more paid reviews
>9/10 - Good
048dd7 No.15767644
>>15767641
*In game critic reviewer terms.
3f1fed No.15767646
>>15766533
In an ideal world, certainly. But that's not how vidya is rated, nor how people tend to perceive ratings. When everyone uses the familiar "school grade" style, 70-80% is average and below that is failing on various levels. This isn't to say this sort of reviewing is right, but it's how things have become: the style is one that the average person grasps without having to be told otherwise, and most people don't want to waste their money on games they're told are poor: even if a 70-80% should mean "good" it instead reads as "mediocre" under that logic.
>>15767033
>It has been this way for over a decade.
Accurate, but try over two decades.
>>15767108
>It’s horrible when you finally realize there is nowhere to go to get a decent review of vidya any more. About the best you can do is wait a month after the release of a game then ask here.
Used to be that you could find more of a specialist outlet and get reviews catered more towards fans of a given genre by fans of a given genre. The one I used to use though I speculate has fallen, since there seem to be games in their jurisdiction they refuse to touch. Also used to occasionally find small sites that had no chance of being in anyone's pockets, but the ones I'd liked have since been taken offline. I have to wonder if it was getting sudden clicks from me that made them realize they were still paying money for sites no one used and thus closed them.
>About the best you can do is wait a month after the release of a game then ask here.
That's if anyone is talking about them, let alone playing them. Sometimes the only discussion some games see are threads about them being cracked for piracy and/or media shitfits, while if you want actual discussion about them you're up a creek because no one actually cares enough.
0b419b No.15767839
even IGN gave it a 5/10, holy shit
7d8bb0 No.15767849
>>15767839
For the sake of reference that's the same score as Aliens: Colonial Marines and only .2 points higher than Sonic 2006.
157345 No.15767851
It's hilarious that the Bethesda fanboys are still acting like there's a good game under all the bugs.
7d8bb0 No.15767863
>>15767851
It seems like only a small bastion of retards are still defending it at this point. There's one guy for example streaming it nonstop to see what the level cap is on youtube and on twitch only 2 streams have more than a thousand viewers. Even fucking gamefaqs hates it, it's that bad.
569735 No.15767970
>>15767863
For what it's worth, dan on twitch is a literal bethesda shill who was shitting on the game, then suddenly stopped and has been defending it since. "It gets better after the first 10 hours." "It's more fun when you don't have supplies and have to fight tougher enemies."
a86a54 No.15767985
>>15767863
>go to gamefaqs
>still tons of retards defending the game
You must be confusing it with another website.
7d8bb0 No.15768020
>>15767985
I seriously hope you aren't looking at the message board. They ban anyone who disses any game.
a86a54 No.15768061
>>15768020
Except there are still negative comments about the game on the message boards.There is even a post with a fucking Trump picture making fun of someone defending the game.
96d222 No.15768064
>>15767851
I would've given them the benefit of the doubt when it came to Skyrim and Fallout 4 - How many people actually play these game vanilla, especially on PC? You always hear 'install these hundreds of mods first'. With the engine being the same, I bet many people never ran into the same constant issues or always had a much more superior and somewhat patched up version of these games.
However now with Fallout 55 it should be extremely clear to anyone just how devoid these games are.
Even the "4x bigger world" isn't a technical feat on its own - Tamriel Rebuilt for Morrowind proved this was possible.
73f2b9 No.15768091
>>15768061
that's making fun of trump though, would be understandable why they let it up
not defending gungrabbing don though
6a1878 No.15768170
>>15766177
>mixed reviews
>55
Clearly they have not realized that reviews use a logarithmic score
5cd76f No.15768218
55 is a great thing, at least this doesn't tarnish BGS' reputation further because it shows that they aren't bribing the journos.
>>15767851
Aside from the bugs it's a fun game for me, I've always hated the quests and NPCs in every fallout game. I find the most fun with crafting, garbage sorting, and killing enemies.
>>15768064
I played FO4 without mods for 6 months.
ed6655 No.15768223
>>15768061
>when everybody unites to hate something
Its magical.
5cd76f No.15768275
After this fall (which was only caused by a spinoff game made by a failed minor studio that Todd and his team barely had their hands on), Starfield is going to be Godd Todd's grand return, the moment will be remembered as the second coming on the E3 stage. It's Bethesda's biggest game and nothing like anything Bethesda has ever made before. It'll blow scam citizen fags out of the water and make rockstar toddlers fall to their knees.
Memes aside, Starfield really is going to be Bethesda coup de grace because they've been working on this game far longer than anything they've done in the past. Even with their expanded studio, it took them 6 years to make a playable prototype alone. It'll be bigger than Morrowind.
0f964f No.15768461
>>15768218
>>15768275
Took the BIDF long enough to show up.
d379f3 No.15768518
>>15768470
This video is 10/10
94a0f6 No.15768566
>>15768275
>nothing like anything Bethesda has ever made before
It is still using the same engine, though.
5cd76f No.15768609
>>15768566
Different engine but same editor.
dc7572 No.15768613
>>15768470
WHoever made that video is a saint.
ff07aa No.15768620
>>15766578
It has literally been that way for decades you underage shilling faggot. When I was a teenager reading Nintendo Power, Xbox Magazine and EGM, the running joke was that no game made by a big studio could get below a 6. The scores have only tightened since. You are only fooling yourself.
ff07aa No.15768634
>>15766650
>you'll play it anyway, goyim
What kind of half-assed shilling is this? And no, you're wrong – Fallout was never a multiplayer loot'em'up with no dialogue you asshat.
5cd76f No.15768653
>>15768634
Mario was never a racing, RPG, or party game either.
9706f4 No.15768660
>>15766177
ITS OK GUYS! DON'T WORRY! WE'VE DISCOUNTED THE GAME BY 40%. THAT SHOULD FIX THINGS!
Just make the game free to play already Todd, you know that's where this ends.
3eb055 No.15768664
>>15768653
This isn't a genre change.
ce6cb5 No.15768675
>>15768660
It's not like they even need to work to monetize it either, since it already has micro transactions.
fd9e11 No.15768678
5cd76f No.15768681
>>15768664
Mario 3 moved away from the linearity of SMB, Super Mario World added puzzles that the other games didn't even have, and Mario 64's transition to 3D was quite a lot different from those 2D era games gameplay wise. And then there are the spinoffs like Dr Mario and Mario Racing for example that are staggeringly different from the main titles.
5cd76f No.15768686
>>15768675
All the items are purely cosmetics and can be obtained purely through gameplay, it's as useless as buying hats in TF2.
ce6cb5 No.15768690
>>15768686
Doesn't stop idiots buying it. Also you literally earn 2 dollars an hour grinding at the start of the game and most likely it gets worse as time goes on.
3eb055 No.15768704
>>15768681
>Mario 3 moved away from the linearity of SMB, Super Mario World added puzzles that the other games didn't even have, and Mario 64's transition to 3D was quite a lot different from those 2D era games gameplay wise.
None of those are genre changes.
>>15768681
>And then there are the spinoffs like Dr Mario and Mario Racing for example that are staggeringly different from the main titles.
That is called a genre change.
Maybe if Bethesda spent more money on the game instead of these marketers there'd be a couple less bugs.
9b83f4 No.15768714
The formula goes something like this.
>Game is positively received by players
>(((Journalists))) want it to succeed for whatever reason
>"10/10 Masterpiece"
<Game is positively received by players
<(((Journalists))) want it to fail for whatever reason
<"5/10 Gross."
>Game is negatively received by players
>(((Journalists))) want it to fail or are at least indifferent
>"4/10 Awful"
<Game is negatively received by players
<(((Journalists))) want it to succeed
<"9/10 Gamers are dead stop being sexist"
Almost everyone is shitting on this game. They don't think they can get away with shilling Bethesda this time. That's all it is.
d5b3d3 No.15768726
5cd76f No.15768728
>>15768704
>None of those are genre changes.
But you can't argue that controlling Mario 64 is far different from Super Mario Bros. It has 3D gameplay and require far more complex acrobatic movements. It's as much as a genre change as Fallout's shift from 2D turn based to 3D FPS+VATS gameplay. Moreover 76 is a spinoff, not a main game.
>Maybe if Bethesda spent more money on the game instead of these marketers there'd be a couple less bugs.
The problem isn't money, but really short deadline. For the studio that worked on the online aspect of the game it was as short if not shorter than NV. They had to break down the creation engine to pieces, add online system into them, and try their best to put it all back together. I don't believe that the main studio put much of their work into this game, they've been working on Starfield the whole time and the proof is the game is already in a playable state.
9fe9e2 No.15768730
>>15768714
There's still a select few floating around trying to damage control it, generally not full fledged journos but some unhinged blue checkmark on twitter, coincidentally many of them seemed to have received copies of the ultra mega edition of the game…
584298 No.15768858
The real takeaway here is that the journalists no longer value their relationship with Bethesda. It’s unknown what the triggering event was that cause this rift, but with them review bombing the game, even going so far as to say they’re not going to put a review out because it would mean playing more of that horrible game, it’s pretty obvious that the media’s love affair is over.
What caused this? Perhaps it is the simple fact that Bethesda has no leverage they can use anymore. They’re essentially an AA publisher on their way down. Every single one of their games for the last two years has been a commercial failure or underperformed so bad they shelved the series. What possibly could Bethesda leverage restricting access to? Starfield a game that uses the same engine as Fallout 76, coming from a developer who forget about their inability to innovate openly boast about how they don’t see what others are doing. Unless of course it’s to steal a mod or two. There’s the thing, Bethesda has constantly made a complete ass of themselves going all the way back to Fallout 4 with Howard boasting they didn’t take any outside feedback when writing the story only to be surprised human like Machines aren’t uncommon. To their lead writing boasting how he doesn’t care about the lore when he writes the garbage he puts out. To their developers spouting retarded shit like radiation causes mutations like the ability to jump twice as high in real life. It’s obvious to everyone who pays enough attention that Bethesda is a company of morons and now that there is competition it shows. That competition mind you is mediocre linear game in an open world garbage, but somehow is vastly superior to this veteran developer.
What really stuck in their craw no doubt is Doom Eternal portaying them as villains and mocking the immigration movement that they championed so loudly until two minutes after the polls closed. Even if that wasn’t it, Bethesda inviting all the content creators, the real movers of consumers to a private event instead of the journos did not do much in the way of building relations.
No Bethesda is fucked. It doesn’t matter how woke they go, they’re not going to be the blanket positive coverage they used to have and they cannot count on the rigged reviews to drive consumers their way. These journos will shill for Battlfield 5 a barely functional, bland, boring experience, so you cannot tell me or yourselves they wouldn’t have lied their ass off for Fallout 76. Nah for once the journos are smart, they see no value in a relationship with a company that can’t produce products that sell (no influence covering them), no value in a relationship with a company that outright lies and tells the fans to go fuck themselves, and no value in a relationship with a company that already whores around on them.
Bethesda is fucked and they fucking deserve it. I only wish someone would leak the interoffice drama that is unfolding as everyone blames everyone for the failure of this game and Zenimax begins questioning whether they want to fund Starfield after the company just demonstrated it can’t even ship a games as a service Fallout experience.
584298 No.15768863
>>15768730
YongYea just boasted about getting a bunch shit from Bethesda because he shills so hard for them. https://youtu.be/jzHLOiVZv7o
5921f4 No.15768866
When it comes to video games, 5/10 roughly translates to 2.5/10
5cd76f No.15768870
>>15768863
He's lying, he bought it himself. His story sounds made up.
9fe9e2 No.15768879
>>15768870
why would you make up getting free shit from a studio? genuine question, like you'd have to be unhinged to do that
ce6cb5 No.15768880
>>15768730
I'm surprised we haven't seen rooster teeth come out and try and defend this shit while wearing the stupid power armor helmets.
3eb055 No.15768882
>>15768879
Sounds like a desperate attempt at sounding important.
<Yeah a Bethesda guy rang me up because I have an "in" with them and they wanted to gift me some free swag for being so important to them and doing such a good job as a streamer
584298 No.15768889
>>15768882
To be fair they did do this with a lot of their native advertisers. Journos are just jealous because they're not doing it with them. It's a bad breakup.
5cd76f No.15768890
>>15768858
More like Todd is a fucking chad and not a sellout. Bethesda accepts the scores given for their games as is, they're not going to pay journos to shill for their game as it will tarnish their reputation. Also, FO76 isn't BGS Maryland's game, it's Battlecry Studios' game, and Starfield is basically going to use a new engine while still sharing same editor that we know and love for the sake of modding and efficiency in world design.
Bethesda plays fair and Starfield is going to be great.
584298 No.15768898
>>15768890
That bait is so impressive I'm almost convinced you are retarded.
The defenders can't even claim this is Battlecry Studio's game. Todd said himself repeatedly that all of Bethesda's three studios were working on this game before moving onto Starfield.
Not going to be surprised if Zenimax cancels Starfield.
9706f4 No.15768911
>>15768890
>Starfield is basically going to use a new engine
They've already confirmed that this is untrue.
5cd76f No.15768928
>>15768898
>The defenders can't even claim this is Battlecry Studio's game.
Watch the documentary bro, Todd said this is Bethesda Austin's child.
>Todd said himself repeatedly that all of Bethesda's three studios were working on this game before moving onto Starfield.
He exaggerated that because he also said that Starfield was already in a playable state in the interview E3. I believe they designed the world and tweaked the lighting and rendering system, but the rest was Battlecry's job.
>Not going to be surprised if Zenimax cancels Starfield.
They're not going to, end of point.
>>15768911
Looks like you just have no reading comprehension and willingly believe the journos' take on that. Here, take a look at the full interview and read by yourself.
https://pastebin.com/kibvUKhM
>I think a lot of people, who are not making games dont understand what the word "engine" stands for.
>They think the engine is this one thing, we view it as technology. There's a lot of different pieces and for every game, parts of that change. For example the renderer, the AI, the animations, the script language and so on.
>Some people talk about Gamebryo but we haven't used that in a decade. A lot of our engine contains a lot of middleware like Havoc. For Fallout 76 we have changed a lot. The game uses a new renderer, a new lighting system and a new system for the landscape generation. For Starfield even more of it changes. And for Elder Scrolls 6, out there on the horizon even more.
>We like our editor. It allows us to create worlds really fast and the modders know it really well. There are some elementary ways we create our games and that will continue because that lets us be efficiend and we think it works best.
5705e8 No.15768945
>>15766562
>>15766573
> scale is 1-10
> lets not use more than half the numbers
Why is everyone so brain-dead?
I get it that reviewers inflate the score, which lead to people ignoring half hte scale, but that is not the solution. The solution is for you to re-review the gam and give it a proper score on a 1-10 scale, not accept a broken scale.
584298 No.15768948
>>15768928
>Watch the documentary bro, Todd said this is Bethesda Austin's child.
He also said they were all working on it while working on Starfield and the other two teams would fully move on only after it was complete.
>He exaggerated that because he also said that Starfield was already in a playable state in the interview E3. I believe they designed the world and tweaked the lighting and rendering system, but the rest was Battlecry's job.
>my source is a liar, believe my source though
That's fucking retard level bullshit anon and considering Fallout 76 is technically in a playable state that doesn't mean shit for Bethesda.
>They're not going to, end of point.
then we'll get to laugh at another failure.
9706f4 No.15768966
>>15768928
straight up bullshit. Just adding middleware over the top of things doesn't mean its a new engine. How the hell else do people think they're able to keep using the same editor over and over, the entire file structure system is carried over each time. Most of Gamebryos issues has to do with streaming and with the computational extremities with dealing with persistent databases, the engine was never designed to deal with this which is also funnily enough the same issue Star Citizen is having with CryEngine. It is still very much the same core code because the one thing we all know Gamebryo does better than most engines was large level streaming for MMOs, this is a core tech Bethesda has used since Morrowind and will no doubt keep in the engine. On top of that the collision detection systems in Gamebryo have never been updated hence why you still have the same stuck in doors/terrain bugs from Morrowind, Oblivion and Fallout 3. The animation system has been barely improved, and in Fallout 76 actually took a step backwards.
I don't believe for a second that they're telling the truth here. They are obviously lying. A lie even Chris Robberts has told as well with Star Citizen changing engines- its still at its core CryEngine.
Simply cramming Middlewares into your product is a very very bad way of developing games. Most people in the industry myself included prefer to code everything ourselves because we know what the code does, how it works, what its workflows require, reliance on middlewear is a clusterfuck, sure it can cut a few corners but it has the tendency of removing the developers from quality control- again another byproduct of Bethesda's worthless development philosophy.
Bethesda lies constantly about their tech so it won't surprise me if Starfield is just more of the same.
5cd76f No.15768996
>>15768948
>He also said they were all working on it while working on Starfield and the other two teams would fully move on only after it was complete.
What we don't know is how long they were working on it. I bet not too long because they still had the time to work on Starfield.
>Fallout 76 is technically in a playable state
Yeah, but 76 was rushed while Starfield isn't going to be released any soon.
>then we'll get to laugh at another failure.
Pic related.
>>15768966
>Just adding middleware over the top of things doesn't mean its a new engine.
And you heard from him that they haven't used gamebryo for a long time. Creation is the forked version of the modified gamebryo used in Fallout 3, that's how it warranted a new engine name.
>How the hell else do people think they're able to keep using the same editor over and over, the entire file structure system is carried over each time.
The file format for construction kit and gamebryo are different. I believe construction kit itself is a middleware.
>Most people in the industry myself included prefer to code everything ourselves because we know what the code does, how it works, what its workflows require, reliance on middlewear is a clusterfuck, sure it can cut a few corners but it has the tendency of removing the developers from quality control- again another byproduct of Bethesda's worthless development philosophy.
And Bethesda has been doing that since he company that made gamebryo sold their engine to gamebase. They're even patenting their own animation system now, no more havok.
6c0c1a No.15769012
>>15768945
>The solution is for you to re-review the gam and give it a proper score on a 1-10 scale
Retard, you're not talking to (((game journalists))), you're talking to other consumers on 8chan. Stop doubling down on your retardation and moving the goalposts- everyone fucking knows what is "mathematically correct". The point is that mediocre trash is regularly given a 7, 8, even 8.5 or 9/10.
ff07aa No.15769430
>>15768653
That's because Mario's audience was literally everyone. Even with the much more mainstream Fallout 3, it is still a niche game when you compare it to a game like Mario. Know your audience.
859ee5 No.15769457
>>15767851
J-JUST A TEMPORARY SETBACK YOU C-CAN'T F-FAULT THEM FOR TRYING I ENJOYED IT WITH MUH F-F-FRIENDS
950055 No.15769463
>>15766177
I'm watching that fatass Oxhorn who went from WoWdrone to Deepest Lore Fallout Faggot keep playing this fucking turd.
0da57f No.15769471
>>15766177
>game probably made over two weeks by a bunch of interns
>clearly no budget for anything
>not even enough money to pay off shills
Face it, even if this game only sold a thousand copies, it would still be a net profit.
859ee5 No.15769478
>>15769471
It sold less than 20% what FO4 did at launch, it's ogre
9706f4 No.15769521
>>15769471
>>clearly no budget for anything
the advertisements outside my front door say otherwise. There's billboards and buses everywhere advertising this garbage game.
2b549c No.15769576
>>15766177
>metascore for critics
>55
If 50/100 is supposed to be average, then 55/100 is above average, but people give average games a score above 50. What a fucked system.
2b549c No.15769588
>>15766650
>Once the dust settles i garentee you'll start seeing more /v/ anons playing and enjoying fallout 76
You are a cocksucking retard
423eb7 No.15769618
>>15769576
Anything below 50 is considered equally worthless. The system makes no sense. That's why it should be out of 5 or out of 6.
423eb7 No.15769622
>>15769618
Or don't even have numbers and just give general opinions. That's the most informative review system. We've gamified the review process and now it makes no fucking sense and the "journalists" are completely fine with it, because they get to be buddies with people in the industry.
7638d5 No.15769653
>>15768858
>It’s unknown what the triggering event was that cause this rift
Didn't Bethesda piss them off when FO4 launched and they refused to give away early review copies so the Journofags had to hold off a few days until their interns played it, and then scramble to their rag to press first - all because Bethesda said they wanted "everyone to experience the game at the same time" or some fucking weird reasoning.
Meanwhile, they did give out early review copies anyhow, they just gave them to a few Youtube shills they had in their pocket like MrCocksuckerMatty that they could pay off far more cheaply with a bit of junk swag left over in warehouse they had some mexican sign Todd's name to.
423eb7 No.15769731
The amount of shovelware has increased dramatically as of late. I wonder if we'll have a second video game crash. AAA game devs actively hate their audience and tell them not to buy their games. This is but a dream, but I hope the masses give up the AAA schlock and there's a renaissance in retro games.
0e4d93 No.15769777
>>15769764
>shill
While that's plausible, with all Todposting around I wouldn't doubt it's some newfag thinking he's doing "le epic trolle Xd".
91ad7d No.15769800
>>15766533
Nigger anything under 80 is certified garbage and half the shit over 80 is too cos they're paid shills.
e2cc7d No.15769804
>>15768470
The only thing that could have made it better is if they started playing the skyrim song when the not-skyrimdragon showed up.
0d91da No.15769822
OK Ill probably get shit for this but at least bethesda isnt deleting videos and trying to manipulate the youtube rating system like blizzard did.
7d8bb0 No.15769825
>>15769822
They have removed reviews from metacritic actually.
1cff3a No.15769829
>>15769822
>implying it wasn't bathesda that made mistercaption leave jewtube
91ad7d No.15769840
>>15768945
Go tell the reviewers that shit.
Anything under a 7 being publicly bleated out is a death knell for a game, the devs and reviewers know it and if the devs boss company are paying the reviewers what do you think is gonna happen? Getting 'proper' reviews from that sort isn't possible, the corruption/backhanders are more enticing than telling the truth.
7d8bb0 No.15769847
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15769822
Also embed related got taken down despite having nearly 2 million views and anyone believing some random yuropoor streamer can get it taken down by themselves is delusional.
91ad7d No.15769852
>>15769481
An 18yo who seems to live in a world full of niggers, chinks, stronk and white manlets.
a8995c No.15769873
>>15767641
<9/10 Good
Wrong
>9 Good or lots of money
>10 Lots of hype and money
0d91da No.15769887
>>15769829
>>15769847
Fair points. Although what Blizzard did seems more underhanded. They were pulling their own videos and then reinstating them later with hundreds of thousands of dislikes removed.
4dafb4 No.15769942
Nobody likes it. If they gave the game positive reviews, it would completely destroy what little credibility gaming journalism has left.
b12e41 No.15769997
>even shiteating reviewers who loved FO4 don't like 76
How bad can one game be?
8b7176 No.15770072
>>15769997
Apparently it's not just bad but boring too. No mods either.
0e4d93 No.15770109
>>15770072
>No mods either.
Didn't someone managed to make some F4 mods work on it?
971f4c No.15770195
>>15770109
not exactly, they just said that FO4 mods could easily be made to work *if * the system to load them was in place. It's not a square peg in round hole issue. the peg's round like it's suppose to be , but there's just no hole to stick it in yet.
7638d5 No.15770268
>>15770195
Depends on the mod. Anything that needs an ESP/ESM container is off the table without a way to load them, but you can still access the local files and make edits. This allows for retextures, nifskope edits, HQ audio replacements, etc. They'll be completely local, and nobody else in the game will see them, but they're possible.
Bethesda could have altered the engine so that it ALWAYS extracts data from the archive, rather than prioritizing unarchived files - but why the fuck would they?
0e4d93 No.15770269
>>15770195
Couldn't a F4 mod loader be slightly modified to work with it?
7638d5 No.15770338
>>15770269
You mean a mod organizer/installer? No. The thing with FO4 was that the mechanisms with which to load mods were already in place, and just needed to be enabled. I don't know if 76 even has capability to load plugins. You might have to hijack one of the paid mods or DLCs which the game is already allowing to be loaded. Then just use that as a container to inject your own mods. Though you wouldn't be able to load multiple plugins; you'd have to merge all the mods you want into a single mod.
Bethesda's kind of up shit creek ultimately here, because it's not just that the community has years of familiarity with the tools they provided (which still more or less work on newer titles), but that the community has made tons of tools and plugins themselves to expand their ability to mod shit Bethesda never intended you to modify. Being on the same engine with the same file formats, means that they can't really stop mods - they can just try to make the hoops you need to jump through annoying enough that nobody wants to bother.
The biggest hurdle to Fallout 76 mods will be a simple lack of interest. The Fallout 4 mod scene was already a fucking mess compared to Skyrim or New Vegas because there simply wasn't very many people around willing to work on it. Most modders fucked off back to work on previous games. 76 is far less popular than even FO4. Aside from a few autists who are going to work on it simply for the challenge, and for the shot at being a big name modder due to a lack of competition, 76 simply won't have anybody willing to bother.
0e4d93 No.15770406
>>15770338
I see. I can't even say that sucks because the game's such a piece of shit it makes 4 seem playable.
Still it'll be fun to see the eventual roundabout way that'll allow mods to be loaded.
b12e41 No.15770789
909a0c No.15770835
>>15767537
>>15766604
>>15766557
>>15766578
>all that snake body
>wanting to waste it
lamias are shit. Nagas superior.
0e4d93 No.15770847
>>15770835
What's the difference?
909a0c No.15770854
>>15767413
You got a good sense here. Some of my favorite games rate around 6 or 7 and I only like them because they give something unique ,despite failing in many areas.
909a0c No.15770869
>>15770847
Lamia have the snake lower half, but they have human hips so their pussy is where the human half meets the snake half and they have an ass on the other side. The snake part of the body does nothing and is basically a giant sleeping bag that holds no organs. Naga have no human bits below the navel and have a plethora of secondary organs comparable to a snake of that size, meaning they would have their sex bits where the snake hole would be.
Pic related and also video games.
0e4d93 No.15770892
>>15770869
>but they have human hips so their pussy is where the human half meets the snake half and they have an ass on the other side
>meaning they would have their sex bits where the snake hole would be
Where do I go if I want both?
7638d5 No.15771000
>>15770352
>tfw you lived to see a day that a worse Fallout game than Brotherhood of Steel was released
>from the "golden studio" that "saved" the franchise no less
b12e41 No.15771056
>>15771000
Ahaha, oh wow. I forgot this one existed.
91ad7d No.15771695
They spent like a week making this and then told players they're the only characters in the game and then revealed they can't even fight each other without consent then made everyone a chink, nigger, woman or manlet and then stuck a fucking Skyrim dragon on top.
It's so fucking lazy it's astonishing they even bothered releasing it. I've seen mods with far greater depth, The very idea of it reeks of superficial emptiness I hope anyone buying it learns their lesson hard,
7d8bb0 No.15771700
>>15771695
I'm willing to bet everyone who bought it already forgot about it.
a90ad2 No.15771761
>>15767851
I don't even see people defend the game at this point, all they go on about are lolsorandomXD wacky things they've seen or done when meeting up with strangers for a minute or two. I guess they think $60 and over 20 hours of shitty buggy gameplay is worth it if they get a single funny story they can post on social media to get some wicked gamer cred. I also see them calling everyone that hates the game mindless haters, which isn't something I've heard said unironically in years.
a90ad2 No.15771767
>>15770352
Why the fuck does this look like some shitty ad I'd see for a free2play mobile game?
7d8bb0 No.15771771
>>15771767
All trailers are made by the same group of maybe 3 or 4 animation studios.
ee2c48 No.15771779
>>15771767
>>15771771
That one is exactly like Rage 2's trailer. Both are extremely cringy too.
91ad7d No.15771822
>>15771767
Cos that's exactly what it is, amongst many other things they got the platform wrong
c39051 No.15771859
>>15771767
If you hadn't noticed with Fallout 4, Bethesda thinks that just because the game is named Fallout it will be well received, so now they're lowering the budget as low as possible and trying to sell games by brand name alone. I hope they fuck up this hard with TES6, shit's gonna be fun.
815625 No.15771877
>>15766448
55 by modern reviews is god awful. 70 is average 80 is good 90 is great 100 is really good. In reality a 50 should be average and be a normal review score, 60 would be pretty good 70 would be good 80 would be great 90 would be amazing and 100 perfect
ca5418 No.15771897
>Giantbomb isn't reviewing it because they can't find anyone who wants to play the game
423eb7 No.15771902
>>15771897
They'd give it a 5 anyways because they're fucking sellout shills with no taste now.
6d81c8 No.15771908
>>15771897
I think it's more of a situation where they don't want to piss off neither Bethesda or their readers, and they can't avoid both by publishing a review,
815625 No.15771913
>>15771902
There are a ton of people who base whether or not they are going to buy a game on reviews. I wonder what they would think if they knew how many websites and magazines were paid off
8e3609 No.15771917
>>15771913
Wait, are you actually saying there's some that aren't?
14321a No.15771921
815625 No.15771935
>>15771917
All the major gaming review outlets are paid off without a doubt. I'm saying some random dude on Youtube who gets 100 views is unlikely to be paid off. Smaller sites that don't get big traffic too
a90ad2 No.15771963
>>15771859
They aren't wrong. This game is considered an absolute piece of shit across the board and they're still probably making bank because of all the whales paying for cosmetics.
35b4a9 No.15772082
>>15767851
The best part is, even they don't think the game is good. They merely defend it under some pathetic sense of brand loyalty/post purchase rationalization. I know a cuck whose entire defense of this game amounts to "So what? Other games have bugs too!" Poor thing can't even come up with anything good to say about 76 besides "fun with friends," and goes right to deflecting about the bugs or in his most heated days, the "you're just being a grafix whore! Games aren't ALL about the grafix you know."
It's not so much fanboys eating up garbage as much as it is dorks not wanting to admit they fell for a hype train and got scammed like the dumb cattle they are.
815625 No.15772183
>>15772119
Yup. Nowadays a 68 is an kinda bad to okay score when it would have meant above average 10 years ago. Under 70 means it's either mediocre or utter trash now
f16a7c No.15772997
>>15766468
Because it had a beta, so there was no excuse. With Diablo Immortal it was just a reveal and no one has really played it yet so you can still easily defend it with "just wait and see before judging!" Fallout 76 lost that excuse when people finally got their hands on it.
584298 No.15773016
Who else can't wait for the leaks to find out what kind of shit show is going on inside Bethesda right now as this game has failed and failed hard. Even if the microtransactions are good they'll never recover 82% decrease in sales over Fallout 4 which sold worse than New Vegas.
>>15772997
You know anon I used to say I don't need to set myself on fire to know it'll burn then that SJW retard set himself on fire and was surprised it hurt. At that point I learned these people actually can't determine consequences based on available information.
445a39 No.15773037
>>15773016
>New Vegas Fag living in his own reality.
Sorry to burst your bubble Anon. Fallout 4 outsold Skyrim and every other TES and Fallout game. As bad as Fallout 4 is there is no use making up bullshit facts about it.
4384b3 No.15773060
>>15773037
And they'll never buy another Bethesda game because it was so shit. 76 is proving that right now
584298 No.15773089
>>15773037
Happy to burst yours, but Pete Hines admitted he made up those figures. He revealed this year he never actually is allowed to see any of the sales or shipped statistics on any of the games.Steam sales figure leaks confirmed this as well.
445a39 No.15773098
>>15773089
Your almost a god liar as Todd Howard. Theres justifiable hate for a game there theres this.
9f1b50 No.15773113
>>15773098
>stop proving me wrong, it hurts my feelings
3302e3 No.15773124
>>15773098
Fallout 4 is objectively shit, and anyone who likes it is a nigger.
6c2a85 No.15773141
>>15773098
the hell is wrong with you dude
859ee5 No.15774241
Bethesda Reportedly Offering Refunds For 'Fallout 76' On PC
https://archive.fo/ltklv
>While Fallout 76 has its fair share of fans enjoying its online exploits, there are a number of folks that are equally frustrated by it, mainly due to glitches and other problems preventing them from making any progress. Originally, with the game launching through Bethesda’s PC launcher (instead of Steam), there wasn’t going to be any option to get a refund, even if the game came across as broken. But apparently, the publisher has changed its tune.
0dcb39 No.15774268
>>15772082
Sadly I can confirm some people still think it's good. A guy I play tabletops has been playing it daily and the bulk of his reason for playing boils down to 'Fun with friends'. Of course any criticism he hears about it is met immediately with something along the lines of 'You're just mad people like things you don't.Truly these people are fucking drones.
Same dude also plays on a furry vore SS13 server too, so thats something to say about the quality of people here.
7638d5 No.15774279
>>15773089
Not doubting the premise in general that Fallout 4 sold like shit and Bethesda are just lying kikes, but SteamSpy in this case isn't the best metric because Skyrim Special Edition was automatically credited to the Steam accounts of everyone who had bought Skyrim Legendary Edition. This was done since they literally couldn't sell the game on the PC to people who were already running far better looking and more stable versions, especially when that new version of the exact same thing fucked up a good chunk of the mods that were out, and required entirely new script extenders. The only benefit anybody ever got from Special Edition was the 64bit executable which allowed far more plugins to be loaded. Oldrim caps out at about 200~255 depending on your system before it goes critically unstable.
And at any rate, unlike consoles - PC is a content development platform… and Bethesda was desperate for content for both their paid mods scheme and for Bethesda.net so they could hock them to console tards. They wanted to get Creation Kits out into as many people's hands as possible, and the most expedient way to do that was to just give the game and it's CK away to people who already owned the game on PC. That was a bit of a hit in profit, but PC isn't a walled garden where Bethesda can back your into a corner and fuck you until your anus ruptures and have you thank them for it. That's why it was $60 on consoles, even if you could prove (via a digital purchase still registered to your PSN/XBL account) that you already owned Legendary Edition.
So the numbers of PC owners of Skyrim Special Edition are highly inflated, but it doesn't just count the number of "sales" in the 5 (really 3) months between it's launch and the publication of that GameSpot article - but counts the number of sales of Skyrim Legendary Edition since it launched.
Do you really think almost 6 million PC users bought Special Edition just for a 64-bit executable?
5cd76f No.15774285
>>15774241
Based Todd the generous.
cf809a No.15774288
>>15774241
>even thinking about returning this masterpiece
55e08f No.15774378
>>15767413
According to your chart i would give 76 a 4/10.
The game itself is just what you expect. F4 but with Multiplayer.
The start is boring and till level 40 you fight mostly against ghouls, dogs, little communist robots and rarly supermutants.
After that it gets better and you get a bigger variety of enemies and unique looking locations sadly the "stories" that you find are sometimes interesting but most of the time just a wall of text or 5 minute long holotapes with no real content.
Then the technical side. F4 ran on maxed settings while looking relatively good had a mod that fixed the ram usage and a 4k high res texture pack. F76 on the other side runs at medium settings at 60+fps while looking like F4 on low settings.
Enemies constantly respawn within 15 minutes after you cleared a camp and in huge numbers so often you fight against 7-10 supermutants or 15 ghouls just because you got seen by one.
In the end it's fun in coop but playing alone must be a nightmare.
9b50c3 No.15774483
981eb8 No.15774742
>>15766512
That's a long shot, though, given that they're bugs that Bethesda have been unable to fix since they first appeared in Morrowind sixteen years ago.
94a0f6 No.15774768
>>15774241
They have entered the failing multiplayer game spiral. It starts with a satisfaction guarantee (AKA a refund if you don't like the game), then they'll give out 24 or 48 hour free passes, then the price drops to $20, then the game becomes f2p or they shut it down.
859ee5 No.15776572
IT ALL COMES TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWWWWN
Fallout 76 Price Is In Free Fall Mode, Already More Than 50% Off By Some Retailers
https://archive.fo/YVVqV
>>15774768
fucking confirmed
9844bd No.15789856
>>15776572
>50% off
It's ogre. Todd will never recover.
e9ea5c No.15789918
>>15776572
now if only the class action lawsuit goes through that would be make this year so much better
9e58c6 No.15789944
>>15789856
It ain't ogre until we hit 78% off
eead70 No.15789962
>>15774768
Arnt the micro transactions like $20 for an armor skin?
a22507 No.15790036
it's just fallout 4 multiplayer
if fallout 4 got good ratings then this should too, but I guess gayming journalists needed to bash some game to not have only 8+ scores in the database and picked this one
not defending failout 76, just saying that 4 was also shit so it should get 4/10 like this shit, but journos give real ratings only once in ten years
aa72b7 No.15790044
>>15789944
It's not over until they pay US
5e8296 No.15790121
>>15769463
To his credit he did say a lot of people will be disappointed with the game. He's a loretard anyway, a decent one but he's not going out and saying it plays amazingly. He's having fun with it and he is answering people honestly when they ask if they should get it.
564f81 No.15790141
>>15790036
>fo4 mp
it's literally skyrim mp reskinned to be fallout
5b26df No.15790310
>>15776572
fallout 76 will probably go f2p sooner than expected
839662 No.15790346
I'd be willing to play it if I could play it locally. I like the game setting and world they've built. I like (most) of the enemy and weapon choices. I like that it's actually difficult to get a full set of power armor, something that bugged me about FO4. I dislike the lack of NPCs, but it's not like I ever got any meaningful interaction out of a character in these game anyways. I don't want to play multiplayer though. I don't want to interact with people, and the solution of just ignoring other players doesn't fly for me. Been in that situation in other games, and you still end up getting bothered by retards spamming trade requests or following you around screaming into their mic because you're ignoring them. I don't want to play on a private Bethesda server when those come out though. I don't want to have to have internet to play this. I have bad internet connection. I want to play it locally so I don't need internet to play.
>>15766533
No, it doesn't. If this is how the world works on the standard 10 points grading scale 50 would be a C, but it's an F. It works the same in the wine tasting world. An average wine might get an 85.
Games grading has essentially fallen on a logarithmic scale.
>>15766650
The lack of mods and overabundance of bugs is part of the reason people hate it. You're essentially saying "once they fix the things people hate about it, people will like it" no fucking shit.
>>15771700
Nope. They've either joined the class action lawsuit because they want a refund, or they're in r/fallout's comment section vigorously defending it to convince themselves they don't have buyer's remorse.
>>15776572
>>15789856
Prices are back up at most retailers. It was a Black Friday price drop. What is still very telling is that the price drop was especially large for a AAA game. Titles with a similar market position generally drop $10 for black Friday not $25. It was an unusually deep discount for a new Bethesda title.
>>15789962
I've seen screencaps of $10 skins.
>>15790036
It's not though. They stripped the NPCs and the vast majority of meaningful story content. FO4 was bad about fetch quests and radiant quests, but that's almost all FO76 has. The lack of NPCs is also a huge detraction from immersion even with Bethesda trying to do their "they're all just dead" hand-waving. There was zero reason they couldn't have had the quests delivered by non-killable NPCs. They just say it would have fucked with multiplayer immersion since they want a "player-drive" story, but we've had MMORPGs with NPCs for decades that never suffered that problem. It was a very poor choice plain and simple.
91ad7d No.15790350
>>15776572
There's a poster for this still up on the fucking bus stop at the end of my road, these levels of smug should not be possible.
91ad7d No.15790365
>>15776572
>It is currently being sold in a sales promotion on Amazon for $34.99, which is a 42% discount from its launch price
Shit should have been 20 at launch.
91ad7d No.15790395
>>15771000
Digital Chumps
Nov 24, 2018
83
>Despite some very annoying bugs that absolutely need to be addressed, the game is both a wonderful online experience and an underrated solo adventure if you enjoy the exploration aspect of games such as No Man’s Sky.
They got a good goy
c7a513 No.15790408
>>15766177
Fallout truely is going for that 50s aesthetic
57f8d3 No.15790603
>>15768996
>Yeah, but 76 was rushed while Starfield isn't going to be released any soon.
It's coming out next year. Then the year after that will be ES VI.
d292b7 No.15790736
They have chosen to focus all energy on defending BFV
ce6cb5 No.15790745
>>15790603
B-but it's not out yeeeeeeeeet
B-but it's a Beeeeeeeeeta
B-but they'll patch iiiiiiiiittttttttttt
B-but I don't want to be aloooooooooooone.
7d8bb0 No.15790749
>>15790603
Are they really putting out Starfield first? That sounds like a terrible idea unless they're sending it out to die on purpose.
769383 No.15790885
>>15790745
Usually bethesda games rely on fanpatches. They cant fix their shit at all, even if fix can be done by braindead paki. And this time you can mod the game you can only purchase mods if you are lucky. But its easier to make a whole new games based on F:NV than to fix this mess.
>>15773089
Cant shareholders sue his ass for that bullshit?
>>15790749
It seems that they expected customers to just eat it up and than some more. Game barely works? Whatever. Game missing half of promised features? Whatever. Game is barely a game? Whatever, just pay marketing department some more, you can always cut on game development.
But now this time they seem to expect that everyone will advertise their shit for free for some reason.
And the worst part is that some people with absolutely no taste will eat it up.
>>15769887
Only because blizzard payed in advance to google, not because bethesda is more moral.
>>15767641
>8-9 might be a great game
>10 paycheck review
ce6cb5 No.15790907
>>15773089
I fucking knew it. All you stupid cunts spewing the PR bullshit over and over like it was facts are proven to be brain dead mongoloids that you are. Eat shit.
3b6e93 No.15790923
>>15790907
The fact that they never showed any real numbers proves that it sold like shit.
f0499d No.15791019
>>15790395
That is probably an insult to No Man's Sky.
91ad7d No.15791209
>>15791019
If someone mentioned something I'd made in the same breath as No Man's Sky I'd probably hang myself to prevent further mediocrity contagion. It fits perfectly as a snide knowing dig in a scathing review of 76, that it's in a good one hurts my head.
685583 No.15791225
>>15790603
>It's coming out next year.
The official statement is it's still 3-4 years away. It will be a masterpiece, built upon a new system made by more capable programmers since BGS has expanded their studio. It will have the procedurally generated first cities ever in a 3D first person space exploration game.
"Starfield is the biggest, most epic science fiction you could ever imagine." ~Todd Howard
"Starfield is the biggest leap in gaming ever." ~Pete Hines
If they dare to say such grandiose statements as these, you know it's going to be great. You just know.
000000 No.15791274
>>15791225
Just think how old you will be in 4 years. Will you still play videogame shitposting?
e354eb No.15791295
>>15791225
>it's going to be great
bd9d20 No.15791298
>>15791225
>implying this flaming pile of shit asset-flip took 3 years to make
That's some next level incompetence if true. I was under the impression Battlecry was cannibalized then grafted onto BGS to deal with this game, after the Maryland crew spent maybe under a year making the map and creating/implementing concepts for enemy types, etc.
>BGS has expanded their studio
Battlecry aka Dallas branch was supposed to be working as continued dev team for Fallout 76% off. Montreal has 64-bit Skyrim and mobile shit under their belt, that's it.
685583 No.15791523
>>15791298
Battlecry is the BGS Austin studio, they made FO76 and are working on their patches and add-ons. BGS Dallas helped Id with Doom 2016 and they're going to help BGS Maryland with Starfield too.
46f18e No.15796087
>>15776572
My fucking sides, Fallout 76 might cost them billions and kill them in the long run if their next game isn't good
46f18e No.15796090
>>15791225
This best be a joke
eead70 No.15796106
>>15791225
>Starfield is the biggest leap in gaming ever.
Skyrim in space with 200 endings and it just works.
7638d5 No.15796132
>>15796106
>Todd owned a Saturn and is a Virtua Fighter 2 fan.
Shit, I guess he can't be all bad then.