d25985 No.15755714
"Fellow Command & Conquer fans,
A month ago, we let the Command & Conquer™ community know we were bringing the franchise back to the PC, starting with a remaster initiative. The reaction from fans has been amazing, with many of you sharing your favorite C&C moments from the past 23 years. We have been reading these comments and listening intently. And now, we are ready to reveal our first PC offering and how your suggestions are already influencing our approach.
Today, I’m thrilled to tell you we are going back to the beginning. We have decided to remaster Command & Conquer: Tiberian Dawn. And while this is incredibly exciting on its own, we’re also aware of how passionate the community is about the Red Alert universe. So, we will also remaster the original Command & Conquer: Red Alert™. But what about the classic expansion packs you may ask - Covert Ops, Counterstrike, and Aftermath? Well, C&C and Red Alert wouldn’t be the same without them, so all three expansion packs will be bundled with the base games into one remastered collection - without microtransactions.
In addition to the excitement and support of this remaster initiative over the past month, there has also been a healthy skepticism that we can pull this off. How are we possibly going to remaster these titles while maintaining the authenticity of the original experiences? Bottom line, there is no better way to achieve this than to partner with some of the talented developers who brought these original games to life.
So, after years of the fans asking for their involvement, I am humbled to announce that EA is going to partner with Petroglyph Games to develop the C&C remastered collection. "
At first I was skeptical because >EA but now they're bringing back the old Westwood guys, so there is hope.
e969e1 No.15755730
If they get Ed del Castillo back on it I'll be impressed. The guy knows all too well what a bunch of pricks the higher ups at EA are
680f18 No.15755739
Can't wait for Kane to be remastered into a black dude.
ecd1f8 No.15755742
>>15755714
>we were bringing the franchise back to the PC, starting with a remaster initiative
>We have decided to remaster Command & Conquer: Tiberian Dawn. And while this is incredibly exciting on its own, we’re also aware of how passionate the community is about the Red Alert universe. So, we will also remaster the original Command & Conquer: Red Alert™
>all three expansion packs will be bundled with the base games into one remastered collection - without microtransactions.
>without microtransactions
Where were you when EA decided to actually do something good for their fans?
>>15755739
All the videos are live action so I doubt they will be redoing them since they probably have the original films, my bet is they will just rescan the original film at a higher resolution.
168105 No.15755746
Damn.
They've really taken advantage of ActiBlizzard's fuck up and made a smart decision.
I'm vaguely impressed, but I won't trust it until the game is released and confirmed not to be cancerous.
b2d0db No.15755756
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I dig the idea but it remains to see how they will fuck it up. Maybe Klepacki won't be doing the music or something.
I feel for all RA3's misgivings Tim Curry was kind of worth playing the game.
ecd1f8 No.15755758
>>15755756
>Maybe Klepacki won't be doing the music or something.
Klepacki is already confirmed to be doing the music.
b481b5 No.15755762
Why the fuck should I care? The originals didn't go anywhere, and no matter how this turns out it's still an EA product. People getting excited for this can't be a case of consolefaggotry either, it's an RTS franchise.
ecd1f8 No.15755768
>>15755762
I would call you underage but I guess its possible that there are people on here who weren't even born when the C&C games came out.
381370 No.15755770
>>15755714
I just want them to release the Nintendo 64 version onto PC.
I don't know why, but that aesthetic really appeals to me.
d25985 No.15755775
>>15755756
Frank is confirmed to be coming back, he might even make more soundtracks for C&C.
"Petroglyph Games includes many of the original developers from Westwood Studios, and some of the most influential members of the original Command & Conquer development team from 1995. Joe Bostic is known as the co-creator of C&C, having also served as the Lead Programmer on Tiberian Dawn and Red Alert. Steve Tall joined Joe as a Lead Programmer on Red Alert, and Mike Legg contributed to all forms of audio systems at Westwood, having been an employee since 1986! All three members helped start Petroglyph Games in 2003 after the closure of Westwood and are joined by a veteran group of RTS developers from the past 15+ years. And don’t think we haven’t noticed the #1 request from the community in all the comments from the past month… You want Frank Klepacki. So as a cherry on top for the fans, we are thrilled to announce that Frank will be re-joining Petroglyph Games to be our Composer and Audio Director for the remaster collection!
On a personal note, I can tell you the past few weeks have been surreal. During my first visit to Petroglyph, I was able to brainstorm “C&C feel” with Joe, sit with Frank and hear him recite Commando lines, and gab with Steve about whether we should fix the Tib Dawn Harvester AI. Getting to chat C&C with the original developers has been one of the highlights of my gamer journey, and I can’t wait for all the incredible conversations to come.
In addition to the fantastic team at Petroglyph, we will also be partnering with Lemon Sky Studios to help bring these original games to 4k glory. Lemon Sky is one of the premier art studios around the world, with a unique specialty in remastering classic RTS titles. After meeting their team and hearing their passion for C&C, we are incredibly lucky to have them team up with Petroglyph to develop the highest quality C&C possible.
The exciting part is that we haven’t started development yet. The community is literally getting in on the ground floor of this project and have every opportunity to help influence how we build this remastered experience. Please continue to engage on Reddit and community channels and help us create the best possible remasters of C&C and Red Alert!
Welcome Back, Commander!
Jim Vessella"
>You want Frank Klepacki. So as a cherry on top for the fans, we are thrilled to announce that Frank will be re-joining Petroglyph Games to be our Composer and Audio Director for the remaster collection!
>>15755762
If there's one game they should remaster it's Tiberian Sun because that game got rushed and was missing a lot of neat features that were cut. As for the first games, they had some pathfinding and AI issues that could be fixed. RA2 is perfect and doesn't need any tampering with.
>>15755770
The 'Tiberian Dawn Redux' mod for Generals might be up your alley.
b84119 No.15755811
>>15755714
>petroglyph
devs of g(r)ay goo, right?
>EA
inb4 black tranny US general in RA's cold war setting & KKKane armbands omg literally Donald Hitler must be stopped!
still…nostalgia/10. a man can dream
c473cf No.15755831
>>15755811
Reminder they replaced Anton and His Commander (you in Firestorm) with a black man who is now the Leader of the Black Hand
681037 No.15755838
>>15755714
They better be getting the goddamn whole studio back together, get fucking Joseph Kucan or we will bring Tiberium Enlightenment to EA.
2c8202 No.15755869
Oy vey aren't you hyped fellow gamers? :^) Remasters are always good, can't wait to buy your favorite classic games again, only in higher quality with no downgrades or technical issues or injected SJW agendas!
8248cc No.15755873
>>15755831
We don't talk about that.
865fe9 No.15755897
>All this fear mongering
It could be that EA is testing different strategies, seeking footholds now that they have lost a lot of support. It could be that they are still greedy as fuck but they figured that the best way to make money is to pander to the fans.
Or it could be that they are gonna fuck it up as usual somehow, maybe locking this behind Origin. But we don't know that yet.
However it feels like a lot of Anons would be really, really happy if they did because it would be yet another crime to accuse EA of. I get the distinct impression that a lot of these fear mongers would rather have a butchered game they can laugh at than an actual good one they have to play.
Not even talking about hype, optimism or how likely it is for this to be good. Just saying that some Anons would actually be upset if this turned out alright since it would go against their bias towards EA. It's a warranted bias so far, but it's dogma if you won't allow and don't want anything to change it.
>>15755831
Well, it's called the Black Hand for a reason.
e08665 No.15755900
>>15755742
>All the videos are live action so I doubt they will be redoing them since they probably have the original films, my bet is they will just rescan the original film at a higher resolution.
If they were actually shot on film. Of course with the shit resultion it's hard to tell, but I'm assuming they were shot on video. Do you have any information on that?
9134ab No.15755902
>>15755714
Yeah, because bringing an "original" dev totally worked out for Diablo shitmortal, and wasn't an strategy to bait hype fags like you.
Also
>Giving money or attention to EA
2c8202 No.15755907
>>15755897
Yeah guys just give them a chance, EA is know for not fucking everything up!
865fe9 No.15755946
>>15755902
>Diablo shitmortal
Difference being that (so far) they haven't said they are making the remake for smartphones (and probably won't seeing how they've tried that before).
Bringing original devs to a project can be done for multiple reasons. One of them is obviously to generate hype, like you said, but sometimes it's because you need someone competent that actually understands what you're gonna be working with.
Until they show gameplay, we simply don't know which of those 2 is happening.
>>15755907
Never said anything about giving them a chance. You only saw that because you'll see anything short of direct insults towards your "enemy" as praise. And this is the issue I'm talking about.
So far they have shown a lot of positive things about the remake, but we haven't seen the characters, the graphics, the price, the gameplay, how it performs after the changes, if it's gonna be behind origin or not, etc.
In short, they have shown more good than bad, but it's still not good enough to make a proper judgement upon the game itself, so we will have to wait and see.
However the question is, if EA actually released a good remake without any of the common flaws we often see in these cases, would you admit it was good? Would you say "EA has done something good this time"?
Or would you be upset that EA didn't fuck up again, that you can't shitpost about this as well?
What would make you happier? Another TORtanic to laugh at or a good remake of a classic videogame? That's all I'm asking.
Besides, there's some nuance here. If the remake itself is well done but they lock it behind Origins, then obvioulsy nobody should fork over cash for it. However it would still be good news since you'll be able to pirate a good remake.
aab737 No.15755957
>>15755946
>You only saw that because you'll see anything short of direct insults towards your "enemy" as praise.
If you don't insult them then you are an enemy as well.
865fe9 No.15755970
>>15755957
I'm an anonymous poster sharing an opinion and talking about videogames. I think and hope you're someone in the same conditions and doing the same thing.
EA is a company that makes, funds and sells videogames. They often make shit that isn't worth the price they ask for and have a bad reputation for it.
Now they are talking about a new game they plan to sell and people are talking about the few green flags in it's development.
There's no "enemy" here, there's no war to fight. There's a company that's making a product you can buy, not buy or pirate.
Anything more than that is just autism in your head.
aab737 No.15755978
>>15755970
>There's no "enemy" here, there's no war to fight. There's a company that's making a product you can buy, not buy or pirate.
>Anything more than that is just autism in your head.
Thats exactly something somebody working for that company would say.
d25985 No.15755991
>>15755978
Not him but man are you predictable.
When I read his post I knew exactly what the responses would be:
>lol ur just an EA shill
865fe9 No.15756026
>>15755991
>inb4
<you changed IPs to agree with yourself
>inb8
>that's exactly what a samefag would say!
I get that this "row, row, fight the powah" schtick where some Anons pretend they are bastions of culture and warriors for decency and standards, battling powerfull AAA companies to preserve their videogames is… Mostly fun shitposting, for the sake of having something to laugh in such a bleak world.
But it would be more funny if the jokes weren't all the same every single time.
Personnaly, I blame /pol/ since you have the >>15755957 jew hating and >>15755978 fag hating here showing exactly where the "entrenched warrior" mentality comes from. That board did more damage to this site than /pony/, /loli/ and /fur/ combined. At least those boards are just autistic degenerate fun, they don't change anyone's mindset to make them predictable parrots who suck the fun out of anything for the sake of a pretend war you actually think you're fighting on.
0656b7 No.15756040
>>15755714
>>15755775
>>15755991
>Petroglyph is old Westwood
>Copy pasting the same info from when they announced this bullshit
>Wanting to pay for shit that's been free for years and can still be played in HD
>OpenRA shitters being contracted as well
KILL YOURSELF OP YOU EA SHILL THIS IS NOTHING BUT A PR MOVE
aab737 No.15756045
>>15756026
><you changed IPs to agree with yourself
>if i inb4 it that means you can't call me out on it!
5a2489 No.15756050
>>15756026
if you don't like it then fuck off. i'd rather have /pol/ have run of the site than let some fucking goon like you ever get a hold of it. eat shit nigger.
d25985 No.15756060
>>15756040
>OpenRA being contracted
Source?
I hope they don't overhaul TD/RA completely like OpenRA does, it completely ruins the atmosphere and feeling of the game. They should just focus on fixing the hardcoded issues and maybe tweaking some damage variables (nuke is overpowered, ion cannon is shit).
5ef4c7 No.15756064
>>15755714
>without microtransactions
>We wont shit in your mouth
BASED EA I TOTALLY HAVE HOPE FOR THIS NOW
How many fucking times do you faggots need to get burned, I am of course asking this assuming you arent shilling
865fe9 No.15756067
>>15756045
>starts off with jew memes
>goes to gay memes
>advances to hitler memes
This is the first time ever anyone saw these images and I swear we are all super duper triggered by them, Anon. You're simply to edgy for us.
I'mma stop replying to you now because this is the 456456th time I've had this conversation and everyone already knows how it ends. You're not right, but you're not wrong either. You're just not funny anymore and that's it.
>>15756050
Because when you have to switch IPs to agree yourself in that the site would be better moderated by the board that infights and still manages to stagnate the most (right after /int/ and /tv/) than someone that just wants to talk about videogames without LARPing about fighting AAA companies, you're kinda proving my point here.
For the record, the other poster already had 2 posts before he agreed with me. There's no way it could have been me switching IPs, but you still fell for it.
Because you're boring and predictable, because that's what /pol/ and it's forced consensus on everything does to you.
Congratulations, you've got an easily recognizable collective identity. I hope you're proud of it because that's all you have.
16ab73 No.15756077
>EA
stopped reading right there
e50829 No.15756080
>>15756045
The cry of an id hop is the cry of a beta faggot losing the argument
5a2489 No.15756099
>>15756067
i just came in here you dumb motherfucker, plus i never said i was a fan of /pol/, i said i'd rather have them have run of the site rather than some soy-chugging faggot like you. at least with them i don't have to worry about getting banned for saying what i think. Now, let's hear how i'm ip switching and everyone that disagrees with you is 1 person.
08d0b2 No.15756111
>trusting EA
>paying for games that are currently Freeware
On top of that Petroglyph hasn't made a decent game since Empire at War and even that had major issues
As always, Tiberiun Sun is the best, RA shitters out
938e31 No.15756115
This is literally a billion dollar PR move to create enough good will in order to sell you another truck load of dlc garbage over the next decade. But at least we might get one decent game out of it.
d25985 No.15756122
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>>15756099
>/pol/
>don't have to worry about getting banned for saying what i think
O boy do I have news for you.
The only political board that respects freedom of speech is /liberty/.
Both /pol/ and /leftypol/ actively ban dissent and anyone who goes against the herde.
>>15756111
TS has best atmosphere and cutscenes, but RA has the best music.
RA2 has the best gameplay and unit quotes.
1d4c9e No.15756124
>>15755714
SOURCE?
ARCHIVE?
5b984d No.15756125
>>15756099 (Checked)
>i never said i was a fan of /pol/
You should though.
3998c5 No.15756129
>>15756060
They posted the announcement at the OpenRA devblog first and foremost and are even in the comments.
http://www.openra.net/news/special-announcement/
This is nothing but a low effort PR move by this kiked to fuck company that's desperate as all hell after their stock value dropped to 40% from it's peak and is still dropping
d1da50 No.15756133
>Tfw you fuck up so monumentally bad you may have actually poisoned the brand well and an entire genre fanbase of consumers so you hastily announce a project that doesnt exist yet and cobble together a team in desperation.
It will be the mobile engine, pozzed as fuck and play like shit. But we all know there are still some anons rubbing that black eye going "b-but he said he can change, its going to be like the old days again and he only cares about me his best gal!" like good little beaten wives.
d25985 No.15756137
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>>15756133
At least they are forced to make quality since EA is a sinking ship.
They're desperate because they lost their target audience (casuals). Chad isn't buying yearly EA sports trash anymore, so now EA has to cater to actual core fanbases unless they want to go bankrupt.
865fe9 No.15756138
>Oh no, there's some goy anons that are not following the script
>Quick! Deploy all the (1)s we have to fight this, arm them with /pol/ memes
Obvious culture warrior is obvious.
>>15756125
I find it funny that someon can post a pic with lolis, nipples and cunny in one pic but the average /pol/tard won't notice or say it's degenerate because there's an Hitler action figure to distract them jojo for those still in the closet
Other than that, cute pics.
>>15756129
>This is nothing but a low effort PR move
It would be just a PR move if they do nothing with it, and so far that's all this is. But if they do release a good game, then it's not just a PR move anymore.
1d4c9e No.15756145
I still see no source for this quote you cock mongler
84d9e5 No.15756146
>>15755714
I'll believe it when they release a good game, and not a second before.
d1da50 No.15756149
>>15756137
>At least they are forced to make quality since EA is a sinking ship.
5 dollars is now in your origin account.
865fe9 No.15756162
>>15756137
>they lost their target audience (casuals)
I'm not sure casuals were ever their target audience.
Perhaps they aimed for them with some of the mobile releases and stuff like The Sims, but mobile has a tremendous amount of competition where they can't shine brighter than anyone else or use their previous IPs for hype (Dungeon Keeper) and what they perceived as their code audience for games like The Sims or SimCity are actually mega autists that want some seriously deep simulation and varied gameplay, not the shit that TS4 ended up being.
Still, I though they were doing okay-ish in mobile?
>Chad isn't buying yearly EA sports trash anymore
This is news to me. Last I checked, Madden and FIFA were still best sellers since star power is what drives the cattle that buys that shit and PES or other games can't compete with them. Anything you read that confirms this?
>now EA has to cater to actual core fanbases
This is what I hope this game is, their test towards pandering to a core audience, seeing if it actually sells and if they can get their support.
I'm sure they are still as greedy as ever, but a corporation's goal is to make money anyway, so if they decide the best strategy is to make stuff good enough someone will actually fork over cash for it, it's a win-win for everyone.
It'd just be fucking stupid it took them this long to learn this lesson. If they learned it at all, which we'll see when this releases.
865fe9 No.15756171
>>15756145
For someone that pretends to care so hard, you faggots sure are lazy:
Archive: http://archive.is/ssFzy
Original: https://www.ea.com/en-gb/news/details-command-and-conquer-remastered
>>15756146
Only sane position, really.
99714c No.15756173
5b984d No.15756174
>>15756138
You're projecting sexuality onto a cute pic so it's not fair to say it's degenerate to other people. I didn't even notice those details you mention.
865fe9 No.15756209
>>15756174
Anon, I did not project anything. I described the elements present in that picture and you assumed that I was "projecting sexuality" about them, what does that say about YOU?
Besides, you're also missing my point. The picture has all those elements, which by /pol/ standards would make it degenerate because they care not for context, they'd just assume anyone posting it sexualizes those details.
And yet you still posted that pic and even admitted you did not notice those, after I explicitaly said "the average /pol/tard won't even notice or care about this because it has an Hitler to distract them", proving my point.
There's no context and no consistency with /pol/, it's all predictable virtue-signaling, they just have a different set of virtues, that's all.
They always say and act in the same way, are easily distracted and will eagerly ignore something that doesn't comfirm their bias or as long as there's a "bigger picture" that they agree with instead.
This is what happens when you share a collective identity. It limits and conditions the way you think in ways you can't even imagine, which is a really shame because, for all of it's faults, there's still a lot of smart and inteligent posters in that board. I just wish they'd finnaly kick out the underages that build up the entire cult mentality behind their group thinking.
It's still a cute pic with cute lolis, nothing to be ashamed off.
Unless you're /pol/ and therefore loli = pedo so you can't enjoy any of that.
66bc8d No.15756224
>>15755742
>All the videos are live action
That is the one thing they would be prepared to invest millions into.
11dea1 No.15756239
>>15756209
>I know all about /pol/, they generalize and virtue signal all the time
>Now let me virtue signal about how bad all the collective of /pol/ is
>Little collectivism tangent
You're retarded enough to be one of those youtube skeptics. Are you from the GG thread?
5b984d No.15756240
>>15756209
You used the word "cunny" so don't give me that. The reason why I didn't notice is because unlike you I'm not some weird pervert. I don't know if I am "/pol/" but I am definitely a white supremacist.
865fe9 No.15756309
>>15756239
I did not virtue signal anything, there's no virtue being exalted by me. Virtues are consequences of actions and do not need to be shown or proven with every post.
I've also said that "for all of it's faults, there's still a lot of smart and inteligent posters in that board" because I know better that to generalize all of you, but I'm sure you didn't even read that hard.
>>15756240
>You used the word "cunny"
And? Was that supposed to be an argument?
>The reason why I didn't notice is because unlike you I'm not some weird pervert.
Again, you keep missing the point. If the same picture was posted on /pol/ but it was generic lolis holding a Gundam instead of Hitler, everyone there would freak out at lolishit, call the poster a pedo and demand a swift ban. But you not only did not notice any of that, you saved the pic and reposted it later because you have a big giant daddy Hitler that makes the entire thing kosher haram wholesome.
I'm just pointing out the double standards, the lack of consistency and logic, the oportunism and how easy it is to please and distract that userbase and you keep proving me right since your entire counter-argument is yet another call to virtue, as if your fake innocense or my supposed taste for loli somehow proves you're not a gullible fool.
>>15756254
How's /liberty/ doing these days? I went looking for a neutral political board twice now, the first time shortly after /liberty/ was made (and it was full of neetsocs staking their claim as well as commiefags doing the same) and the last was about a month were I couldn't find it.
There was actually plenty of neat conversation there, despite the amount of delusional ancaps. I'm libertarian as well, but some of them are crazy as fuck when they think a country can be run entirely by the private sector with no problems at all.
99714c No.15756334
>>15756309
computer games: talk abioutn them dammit
08d0b2 No.15756371
>>15756162
>This is what I hope this game is, their test towards pandering to a core audience, seeing if it actually sells and if they can get their support.
it's not, it's more along the lines of "oh fuck, Blizzard made some minimal effort remasters and got a quick surge of cash off them, we need to do the same!"
dc0cda No.15756453
>oy vey goyim buy our $60 retexture of old games for PC so we can make millions off of your nostaliga
dc0cda No.15756467
>>15756309
god bro you're a fag
8e3681 No.15756476
>>15756254
Reminder that if you say "the white race deserves to exist", kike lolbertarians like this retard will go "hurr durr identity politics is bad".
Any form of pro-White politics is identity politics, by definition. Libertarianism is a dogshit-tier ideology.
865fe9 No.15756510
>>15756334
Sorry, I'll try to keep it topical.
I have a question for C&C players regarding Tiberium Wars and some math I did some time ago.
I used to think that infantry is nigh useless and a waste of resources you could be putting into tanks instead, but instead of accepting this as gospel, I decided to do some theorycraft to it instead.
Using the GDI for base with the Rifleman squad vs MBT-6 Predator.
Now, I'm going to compare them based on resources spent to make. Since the Rifleman cost 300 (with a squad of 6 units, so 50 each) and the Predator costs 1100, then we are looking at 3 full squads and 4 extra Rifleman against a tank. Note: the time to build is the same, 11 seconds.
Total: 22 Rifleman vs Predator.
22 Rifleman attack with 9 damage per burst 5 times per second (before they have to reload), which means an effective FPS of 990 Gun Damage.
Meanwhile, they also have a total of 1650 HP with Light Armor.
The Predator instead attacks with 400 Cannon Damage ever 2.3 seconds for an effective DPS of 174
It also boasts 3400 HP with Medium Armor.
If one goes against the other, the Riflemen's damage is adjusted by the Medium armor to 247.5 which means they'd take 13.7 seconds to destroy it.
Meanwhile, the Predator's damage is adjusted to 43.5 which means it'd take 37.9 seconds to kill all those riflemen.
Now, there's a few details here like the reload for the riflemen (taking 0.35 seconds instead of 0.2), that at least one Riflemen dies every time the tank fires and thus cuts down on it's power or that Predators can just crush infantry, but overall it seems that infantry is still the superior choice on a cost-effectiveness consideration.
Even if you were up against other vehicles, it'd be far better to pair your Rifleman with anti-vehicle units too instead of wasting resources on more Predators.
So the question is, what's the role and the point of Predators or other vehicles if Infantry seems capable of surviving it (to the point that the Predator is better off crushing them than shooting at them) and outdamaging it?
865fe9 No.15756521
>>15756476
Ssh now, no tears. I much like our fasutian spirit that originated in Europe and I'd like for it to remain and thrive, something I don't believe any other race besides whites can do. But I'd rather have my race exist and excel because it does better than others, not because we take out the competition. Libertarianism is accepting that fight with joy and exceling at it, Neetsoc is being so weak and afraid to compete that you have to kill your oponents to succeed.
8e3681 No.15756530
>>15756521
>if you kill your enemies, they win
865fe9 No.15756588
>>15756510
For funsies, I did the same math with the anti-armor options GDI has: Missile Squad vs Pitbull.
The Missile Squad costs 400, so 200 per unit. The Pitbull costs 700, so to make things even it's 2 Pitbulls against 7 Missile Squad units.
The MS attacks with 250 Rocket Damage every 3.6 seconds. Effective DPS for 7 units:486
Every unit has 300 HP so a total of 2100 HP with Light armor.
The Pitbull attacks with 2x200 Rocket Damage every 3.5 seconds. Effective DPS for 2 units: 229 Note: Damage against aircraft is 150%, so 343.
2 pitbulls have a total of 2900 HP with Light Armor.
Adjusting the damage if they go against each other gives the following:
MS attacks with 364.5 and takes about 8 seconds to destroy the Pitbulls.
The Pitbulls attack with 57 and take about 37 seconds to destroy the MS.
Again, there's points to consider, namely that the damage of the MS goes down every time they lose a squad menber, but the difference is still colossal.
What's more is that the MS squad performs better at supressing air units than the pitbulls too.
The only thing I can see vehicles outperforming infantry units is that they tend to be much faster in terms of movement and can crush infantry, but overall they are not cost-effective compared to infantry.
Are they strictly meant for a support role, scouting and flanking?
>>15756530
They are not my enemies, they are competition. It is my role to do better than them just as it is their role. I do not fear other races because I've already proven to myself that I'm superior by doing my part in life. If you've yet to do so yourself, it's understandable why you'd choose instead to take them out instead of doing something with your life. The coward's way is always the easiest one.
8e3681 No.15756599
>>15756588
>fighting your enemies is cowardly
>not fighting your enemies is brave
This is your brain on anarchy for grownups libertarianism.
5b984d No.15756627
>>15756521
>Ssh now, no tears
>>15756588
>For funsies
Can you dial it back a bit please.
5ab3dc No.15756642
Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment
dc9929 No.15756723
>>15755714
>EA doing anything right
I'll believe it when I see it, then pirate anyways because fuck EA, they don't deserve a single cent after two decades of destructive business practices. It'll probably be Origin-only garbage, and like most remasters I'm sure they'll fuck up the art style.
Also, what about Generals? There's not a snowball's chance in hell they could release this game today without massive censorship, it's incredibly politically incorrect by today's standards. It might even be classified as hate speech, even though it doesn't explicitly call them muslims.
9da923 No.15756729
It's all lies and deceit. All to sham you into giving up your wallet.
5c8bde No.15756732
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>>15756723
Even the cucked German release with robots wouldn't be PC enough for them at this point in time.
7a8ad4 No.15756777
>Muh /pol/
>For funsies
>Trusting EA
>Remasters are fine
>Not even any game footage just empty words
How do you do, fellow anonymous? Also >>15756129
08d0b2 No.15756812
>>15756723
>then pirate anyways
they're already freeware that run perfectly fine on modern systems
Though with this move I wouldn't be surprised if EA tries to kill cnc-comm now
cedf1d No.15756855
>company makes shit decisions
>public outrage
>appease the public
>all sins are forgiven by the public and forgotten
>company goes right back to making shit decisions
Don't fucking fall for it. Same bait-and-switch tactic that companies have been using for the longest time. Do not give these fuckers the time of day.
199a2e No.15756911
>>15756884
>Suicide
Stop posting this bullshit and getting my hopes up
8baae0 No.15756994
>>15755756
They released a C&C collection once before and it had some stupid amateurish technical issues (crashes, missing cutscenes etc)
c20a8b No.15757023
>>15756994
There's literally nothing wrong with the First Decade and I was using Vista at the time
t.owner since 2006
b84119 No.15757160
I'd like to remind you peasants that this cannot and will not be C&C 4.
That alone means it will be an improvement from the last installment of the franchise. This is gonna be uncharted territory for EA.
the Global (((Diversity))) Initiative and its arrogance must eventually be brought to a grinding halt.
07b730 No.15757180
>>15755714
>EA
>so there is hope
b7ac09 No.15757231
>>15755739
It would be good reason to play GDI if NOD isn't any longer the last bastion of white identity
95a490 No.15757326
>>15756209
>The picture has all those elements, which by /pol/ standards would make it degenerate because they care not for context,
Stop trying to tell me what my own standards are, you fucking kike. There's nothing wrong with that image.
>Unless you're /pol/ and therefore loli = pedo so you can't enjoy any of that.
>falling for JIDF D&C posting
Even if you assume the anti-loli fags are real posters, they're outnumbered.
5ef4c7 No.15757352
>>15757023
>Works on my machine
He also didnt mention the retarded DRM that came with it.
c20a8b No.15757377
>>15757352
I installed it on friends computers at the time, including Vista laptops so we could play LAN and had no issues.
>DRM
The only DRM it had was a CD check and nothing more
You're a retarded gas lighting nigger
5ef4c7 No.15757402
>>15757377
I played through clear sky without encountering any bugs, doesnt make the game not a buggy piece of shit. Also stop lying, try installing the first decade and see what happens. You cant even launch it now thanks to the DRM. Just because you never had problems with the games bugs, crashes or DRM doesnt mean they dont exist.
cb7ad9 No.15757406
>>15755714
>EA is doing something right for once
I still don't trust them. They will fuck something up somewhere.
316466 No.15757437
>>15756026
>Personnaly, I blame /pol/ since you have the >>15755957 jew hating and >>15755978 fag hating here showing exactly where the "entrenched warrior" mentality comes from. That board did more damage to this site than /pony/, /loli/ and /fur/ combined. At least those boards are just autistic degenerate fun, they don't change anyone's mindset to make them predictable parrots who suck the fun out of anything for the sake of a pretend war you actually think you're fighting on.
>reacting to meaningless shitposting by ruining the thread with site meta
5ef4c7 No.15757476
>>15757418
What are you even trying to say? Are you going to deny it has DRM?
3c52c4 No.15757556
>>15757402
I dont recal it having drm either when I last installed it around 2016 from the CD's, do you have proof it does have drm?.
>I played through clear sky without encountering any bugs
Then you didnt buy it on release.
3998c5 No.15757584
>>15757476
This is me proving you wrong
The only issue the collection has on modern systems and has to do with Generals not having animated menus on a 64 bit OS which can be fixed by running the game on XP Service Pack 3 compatibility mode.
Now kill yourself gaslighting nigger
5ef4c7 No.15757593
>>15757556
>Then you didnt buy it on release.
I actually did, think I used up all my luck because the playthrough after I got several gamebreaking bugs including all important NPCs vanishing. The first decade used Safedisc/Securom apparently, why the fuck are you defending EA so hard man? Is it that hard to admit they released games with DRM and other problems?
>>15757584
>I dont encounter/see it so it doesnt exist :^)
A simple search proves you wrong, stop sucking EA dick
306e24 No.15757595
>>15757584
Do you know what gaslighting means?
5ef4c7 No.15757602
>Microsoft made headlines when it stripped support for SafeDisc and SecuROM DRM from Windows 10 Recent security updates to Windows Vista, 7, 8, and 8.1 have also removed support for these DRM schemes from older versions of Windows.
http://archive.is/x3kKM
4f15b8 No.15757605
>>15757593
>A simple search proves you wrong
>provides no source
You sure showed me
Now go be retarded somewhere else
5ef4c7 No.15757625
>Defending EA
>Denying they put retarded DRM in one of their games
Please go on, I am baffled why you even sperged out about some anon saying the game had crashes and bugs.
4f15b8 No.15757638
>>15757402
>>15757602
>>15757625
>Gets proven wrong
>Y-you're a shill for saying a 12 year old collection of an EA game isn't shit like I'm trying to revise
Kill yourself kike
b23faa No.15757658
Let me educate your mongrel ass
TFD uses Safedisc that has neither online shit or install limitations
It's merely a copy protection software to prevent the decryption of the files and is bypassed by ISO Loaders.
The issues you're trying to push as fact never happened in 2006, they happened on Windblows 10 babies because Microsoft is shit and Safedisc doesn't work on their shit OS
There's literally nothing wrong with The First Decade you underage fucking sperg.
544c9c No.15757672
>>15757658
>Q: Can I make an .iso of the TFD DVD disc and will it work?
>A: Yes! An iso of TFD will install correctly, however, without TFD patch, all games will still ask for TFD DVD. Additionally, Generals/Zero Hour will not work correctly due to their special DRM protection EA left behind.
Not really a problem with No-CD patches that have existed since the 90s when the games were released. The bigger problem with TFD was that the games weren't patched correctly.
71b0db No.15757673
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>>15756026
Jews are to be killed.
Faggot abominations are to be killed.
Lolis are always ok.
Stay mad, impotent leftist.
>>15757605
>Impotent corporate shill being this impotent to prevent the truth about EA's DRM to be spread.
The DRM is real. You lost. As always.
5ef4c7 No.15757688
>>15757638
Fact: It has DRM
Fact: It has crashes and other bugs
>>15757658
>It's merely a copy protection software
It happens to windows 7 and beyond, I can also tell you of others issues I personally had with the game before windows 7 and beyond even existed but that would just be anecdotal :^) I said nothing bad about the game itself but apparently just the mere mention of it not being a 100% technological perfect flawless game makes you assblasted. Perhaps you should check that out, it's not healthy.
5ef4c7 No.15757696
By the way, in case you are just going to ignore the first bit to try and somehow invalidate what I said by attacking the second part of my post. You admitted it had DRM
>It's merely a copy protection software
>It's merely a copy protection software
>It's merely a copy protection software
ad9b60 No.15757709
>>15755714
>so there is hope.
remember, hope is the first step on the road to disappointment
2ea699 No.15757715
the fact that they finally realized Frank Klepacki is a critical part of C&C is nice, but since it's EA it's still a pirate-only situation
d23df8 No.15757722
>>15757672
It's literally copy protection
It has no issues, you install the game from the DVD and that's it.
>>15757673
You're an absolute retard with no awareness of context.
>>15757688
>Fact: It has DRM
And it didn't affect anyone in 2006 or anyone that didn't have Windows 10 unlike you tried to convey here >>15757584
>Fact: It has crashes and other bugs
It doesn't, you're full of shit
>It happens to windows 7 and beyond
Yeah, what the fuck is this >>15757584 then?
Don't you get tired of being wrong?
> I can also tell you of others issues I personally had with the game before windows 7 Stop pretending you own it
It's pretty obvious from your pathetic Jewgle searches
>>15757696
Yes you retard CD checks/copy protection is DRM and so are consoles.
Congrats, you're a fucking genius
b23faa No.15757748
>>15757722
>And it didn't affect anyone in 2006 or anyone that didn't have Windows 10 unlike you tried to convey here >>15757584
Here >>15757352
5ef4c7 No.15757811
>>15757722
Let's adress the original point again, one anon said the first decade had crashes and bugs. Then you/some other anon said "There's literally nothing wrong with the First Decade". To which I replied saying it did and it also had DRM. So two things: It had bugs and it had DRM. DRM was already proven to be in it and I had to download multiple patches for the game. The patches you cant download anymore, you have to get a fanmade one. Now please explain why you got so triggered about it, many great/classic games had bugs. Did it also ever occur to you that your own personal experience isnt exactly what others experienced? Kill yourself for defending DRM and "how it didnt affect anyone in 2006" that shit is the biggest fucking lie I have ever heard.
3c52c4 No.15757825
>>15757696
>actually having a problem with CD keys
I fucking wish we could go back to CD keys since they were always cracked within days and you didnt need to download some shit client to run the game like you do now.
4f15b8 No.15757856
>>15757811
>Let's adress the original point again, one anon said the first decade had crashes and bugs
The original point was that TFD had crashes and bugs, and he's wrong >>15756994
>To which I replied saying it did and it also had DRM. So two things: It had bugs and it had DRM.
You haven't proven the first and the second is copy protection that doesn't affect anything at all
>DRM was already proven to be in it and I had to download multiple patches for the game.
Prove it, I literally showed you myself running vanilla with no user patches right here
>Explain why you're trying to prove a disingenuous autistic sperg spreading misinfo on why he's wrong
Mentally ill retards that can't admit that they're wrong like Jewt were the reason this board was populated
>Kill yourself for defending DRM
Safedisk was a third party copy protection, it simply prevented you from making copies of the game, it didn't limit you with online checks, encryption or activation limitations.
It didn't cause any issues whatsoever to people until Microsoft dropped support for it with Windows 10 and that's easily patched
DRM is shit but Safedisc didn't cause any issues and that was the baseline, that was the goalpost and you've moved them to another country like the autistic sperg you.
Keep spreading rhetoric though you dumb nigger.
199a2e No.15757883
This is easily the dumbest fucking argument currently happening on this entire website.
0ca09e No.15757910
>>15757883
/v/ is filled with autistic retards that can't admit they're wrong.
Even the BO is like that
809564 No.15757961
>>15757957
He means the back and forth you even mentioned here >>15757952
4d42db No.15758340
>>15756588
>They are not my enemies, they are competition.
That's where your ideals fall short. And where I side with the "everything is a war" anon. Being limpwristed doesn't tip the scales of balance far back enough..
4d42db No.15758386
Anyway, this is clearly a banking on nostalgia move because their stocks have been tanking due to BFV, making them desperate has made them do something (potentially) good. This is how you should always treat a corporation, crush their balls under your foot and make them beg for your milk.
However, I don't expect too much out of this, the best I can hope for would be rescanned FMVs at a decent res, and possibly the source code to the originals. Whilst the reversed engineered engines exists, they're most certainly not perfect. Anything else seems like fluff, besides basic fixes like the super fast scroll bug.
One thing to watch closely: will they include the map editor? That should telegraph their intent quite well.
71b0db No.15759570
>>15757722
Still butthurt for being proven wrong?
Stay mad.
The DRM is real.
9ad505 No.15759658
>>15755873
Of course we can you fucking nigger
681037 No.15759669
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Reminder, this is what EA killed when they forced the entire remaining studio to move from Las Vegas to Los Angeles to be under their scrutinizing greedy eyes. (Vid is from Frank Klepacki, and of course the movers EA hired lost the source code for Blade Runner 1997)
0a68db No.15759682
>>15756309
imagine being gay and defending EA
a85386 No.15759717
>>15755714
People ask how they'll fuck it up? I'll tell you!
Exclusive to their subscription service.
dbeec4 No.15760120
They probably will actually murder old devs this time.
66feda No.15760368
Copy protecion is DRM. Don't let the DRM shills fool you.
Obviously Denuvo isn't DRM either if we go by these stupid faggots logic. It's anti-temper tech, not DRM :^).
ea0857 No.15760617
b548c4 No.15760664
>>15756209
every single word from each of your posts drips with cancer and soy.
I don't care whether you kill yourself or go back to Reddit but nobody here wants to hear any more of your shit opinions, faggot.
cf06e5 No.15761374
>>15755739
don't even joke
3f07a3 No.15761402
>>15755978
>>15755907
This. Never trust the (((EA))) jew! Let the industry fucking die already. Let these feminists, kikes, and niggers who destroyed the industry pay for their crimes. Let their skeletons in the closet be exposed.
48f739 No.15761459
>>15756026
>Personnaly, I blame /pol/ since you have the >>15755957 jew hating and >>15755978 fag hating here showing exactly where the "entrenched warrior" mentality comes from. That board did more damage to this site than /pony/, /loli/ and /fur/ combined. At least those boards are just autistic degenerate fun, they don't change anyone's mindset to make them predictable parrots who suck the fun out of anything for the sake of a pretend war you actually think you're fighting on.
I have to agree on that, I'm sorry but it's true, /pol/ has turned into a near parody of itself and now every thread is often derailed into politics by this same people, however, I have to say that it is you that has derailed it this time. So let's stop it here before it gets any worse.
84d9e5 No.15761638
>>15759669
What could have been. What could have been.
f4ccb3 No.15761672
>>15759669
I'm glad California is literally burning
Hopefully in the next few years it will be a nuclear fire instead.
71b0db No.15761779
>>15760617
Yeah. Still butthurt for being proven wrong.
The DRM is real. Your corporate brand of choice will fail.
>>15761402
This.
d467b1 No.15761809
>>15761779
>The DRM is real
Point in this thread the single instance where I said it wasn't.
CD checks are DRM
Now fuckoff Torfaggot tier autist