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God I say "really" a lot

Shoulda proofread

I like TGM but from the classic ones I like the Atari/Tengen version much more than the one Nintendo sabotaged in. It had many more modes and felt much better in my opinion. It makes me sad all the legal issues that made it go unlicensed.

>>15745914

Nintendo licensed version, because it's the one the CTWC uses

>>15745916

I do like the modes and especially the aesthetics of the Tengen version, but it doesn't feel as good imo. Main reason being that you can accidentally spin multiple times if you press the button too long.

>>15745874

Maybe check out Shiromino. It's a TGM clone that doesn't suffer from Nullpomino being written in Java

Is it weird if I say that Tetris utterly bores me?

>>15745874

acid tetris.

How was Tetris Effect? Did anyone happen to get it before Sony went full California?

>>15745967

Kinda

Did you ever play far enough to where the speed increased?

>>15745970

I don't own a PS4 so I haven't played it, but the music is really cool. It doesn't have a versus mode though, which is kinda weird. I'm not sure if the single player has something similar to Tetris.com but if it doesn't I can't really see it being all that challenging. I guess it's more about the aesthetics and the experience which is fine I suppose.

>>15745981

Could never get into Puyo. Too big brain for me I guess. The adventure mode in PPT was torturous because it kept forcing me to play it.

>>15745981

This, but unironically.

Is Puyo Tetris on PC cracked yet?

>>15745989

>Did you ever play far enough to where the speed increased?

Makes no difference to me. Not quite related but as a kid I'd rather play lego or stack blocks than tetris.

>>15746001

>Is Puyo Tetris on PC cracked yet?

yup, near the end of september

also that's some good music

>>15746002

Same here. First and last time playing tetris was Acid Tetris I found in a pack of various freeware and probably pirated DOS games. I saw no further appeal after 5 minutes. Fucking around in QBasic and managing to code a shitty stick figure move across the screen was far more entertaining.

>>15746202

Try playing a newer version

Sub grade 10s in Shirase need not apply

I just started playing TGM3 and it's kinda hard to get used to because of the way the pieces spawn in and the weird hard drop that lets you move the piece after dropping it

I can see why people like it though, it gets fast very quickly and the much lower lock delay really forces you to plan ahead and know where you're gonna put a piece before it spawns in

I'm gonna keep playing

Anyone down to try mednafen netplay or jstris or something?

Never got into tetris as a kid, but lately, I've been playing cultris II for like, an hour or two a day.

It's addicting, but I have no idea how to git gud

Anyone know where I can find themes for NullpoMino?

>>15748429

here's a cool cave story skin i found online

http://www.mediafire.com/file/gz9w9b7dpam0m2e/Cave+Story+Nullpomino+Skin+Pre-release.zip

I mostly play the licensed NES version. Tetris attack and tetris & Dr. mario are also cool.

>>15749409

Other similar games that I recommend are puyo puyo and COLUMNS.

>>15749409

You probably already know this, but Tetris Attack is actually it's own series called Puzzle League, or Panel de Pon in Japan. It's my second favorite puzzle game after Tetris.

God damn, TGM 3 is fucking hard

How do I git gud?

I can make it past level 200, barely

Playing in Nullpomino btw

>>15750014

for me i think it's a bit of both

i don't think i like it but i also suck shit at it so i don't really feel completely comfortable saying i hate it

>>15750014

Try going into the challenge screen and just playing some survival Puyo until you get used to it.

>>15750014

Tetris is more about management, where as puyo is about thinking ahead and building things in a dominos like fashion. They are very different games and require different skills.

Here’s a wiki to git gud at puyo.

https://puyonexus.com/wiki/Stairs

Also, enjoy a nucking futs video of two top tier players going against each other.

>>15750586

And this is a really good video to explain the concepts behind puyo

emulate cdi tetris for a relaxing exp

Do you think if TGM 4 does come out, that Arika would be willing to release it in America and/or for home systems?

>>15752859

Doubtful since Puyo Puyo Tetris and Tetris Effect are so recent.

This was in my youtube recommendations, watched it on a whim and fucking riveting.

>>15745874

But have you tried Doki Doki No Tetris Master?

>>15752954

this doesn't exist so i assume it's a joke but my autistic mind doesn't get it

>>15752865

But do the Rez devs have the license for more than one game?

>>15754449

Probably?

Why are some people naturally shittier at Tetris than others, and how to you teach them to git gud?

>>15757828

Tell them to plan ahead and check their next block.

PPT fucking sucks on Switch, really wish I got it on PC

Both the joycons and pro controller are terrible controllers for Tetris. Misdrops and double hard drops for days.

>>15745994

The main problem with Puyo is the learning curve is disgustingly steep: (and the lack of proper tutorials that teach you what to do when you don't get the exact colors you need, like as building on the 2nd before finishing the 1st)

>lol i dunno man i'm just matching blobs man (1st time puyo)

>ok i read some guides and i can 6-chain now but I keep hitting the walls. how the fuck do I build upwards (beginner)

>great now I'm buried by 2 lines, how the fuck do I dig down, and what the fuck is a tail? (intermediate)

>fuck i always get fucked by a power chain. what do you mean I'm supposed to chain on top of my main chain?

>how the fuck do i build on the 3rd floor without dying (upper-intermediate)

>i can't build a 2nd/3rd/xth chain in time to counter my opponent. also what's this counter shit? (advanced)

You'll encounter similar problems with Tetris, but generally only for high level stuff

>how the fuck did he clear the fucking field after sending 11 lines (from DT Cannon)

>what the fuck he just made a t-spin in the air

>he blocked his stack with a t/s/z/j/l and made a t-spin wtf

>how the fuck does he always manage to get 9-ren from clearing garbage

>>15746001

>>15746060

Puyo Tetris has been cracked on PC since Voksi bypassed its Denuvo. A few months later CODEX released a proper crack. I think you can still play online (with other crack players)

>>15747541

>it's kinda hard to get used to because of the way the pieces spawn

That's inherited from Sega's Tetris. Face-down pieces up the difficulty by making it harder to navigate your field at 20G. Also Z is green because fuck you

>weird hard drop that lets you move the piece after dropping it

it's made that way to facilitate zangi-moves (e.g. 6842 motion) with an arcade stick.

>>15749766

To beat TGM3 (Classic rule), you need to be at a level comparable to around 2.5-3 pieces per second on SRS (33-40 secs 40L). Abuse the step-reset lock delay (lock delay resets each time piece lowers) and HOLD (resets lock delay) as much as you can. Avoid getting Section Time COOLs (will skip 1 section's worth of difficulty).

Do note that to get the highest grades you need to get ST COOLs, on top of Tetris COOLs, and surviving the vanishing/invisible roll.

>>15758613

>Also Z is green because fuck you

yeah this is the worst part

What's the Nullpomino rule to make it play like Tetris.com? e.g. gets harder after level 20 by decreasing lock delay

I could just play on the site with joy2key but I like my Cave Story theme

>>15761066

>Tetris verus overall needs a big rework

I don't think it does. SRS Tetris VS plays like a tug of war. Even if you get a terrible garbage pattern, if you're good, you can turn it into REN and make a comeback. Once you become able to hit the 60-80 Attacks Per Minute range it becomes especially fun and also it rapes your fingers. Only things I'd tweak are lower DAS (PPT has 12 frames; too high) and ARR (1 frame; PPT uses 2), and the inconsistent game-over mechanics across installments (some games use 20th row, others 21st).

The only shit I absolutely can't stand is

>shit garbage hole selection algorithms

say, shitty games like Tetris Party which will gladly give your opponent 16 lined up garbage holes so they can rape your ass.

>center 4-wide

they should change it so that you lose if any block crosses the 21st row.

>>15761483

Try Grade Mania 2 or 3 with a guideline rule (e.g. Standard-Fast-B; to do that just pick a mode with your wanted rule, return to main menu, pick your wanted mode, then select (current rule)). Or Extreme mode, which starts you in 20G right away unlike Marathon but it does lower lock delay as you advance levels.

As for guideline Marathon with lowering lock delay proper, there's nothing of the sort built-in.

there's some shit brewing in the Tetris community.

wtf

>>15750841

played this on a Magnavox CDI today, Not bad and the music is really chill.

kek tetris memes

>>15763676

Arika.

>>15763691

My mistake, more used to spelling Akira.

>>15763676

this got me too lol

not related to anything else in the video

just shitting on stuff for the sake of it

makes him look like an elitist dick

>>15763676

>>15763726

They're tightening up their copy right policy because of Tetris Effect, it's not just a happy coincidence. They want to compel the market towards their new product.

>>15763802

Arika doesn't have a new product though

Unless TGM 4 actually is coming out some time

>>15763813

Wasn't TGM4 finished like 10 years ago they just didn't release it?

>>15763813

hmmm not sure then

seems like the two are related given the time

>>15763832

>>15763831

can i get a whore to play tetris with me

>>15763862

>>15763859

i was replying to a spammer advertising an "illegal brothel" haha

mods here work fast

>>15763821

Yeah

Probably because licensing bullshit and/or guidelines autism

I really hate the way licenses are distributed, remember when Ubisoft had it and their shit game kept PPT from being released here for 3 years?

>>15763862

Didn't know this was a thing, but I must try it now, even though I don't speak full Japanese. Know of any reliable ROM sites?

>>15763802

>They're tightening up their copy right policy because of Tetris Effect

From what I can gather it's Arika's doing and unrelated to that single-player only VR meme-game. Whether TTC forced Arika's hand or not is not yet clear. Doesn't make them any less douchebags, like Jewtendo taking down walkthroughs and let's plays

>>15763726

>>15763867

>>>/reddit/ is that way

>>15763904

so you can sue them to oblivion like loveroms and loveretro?

PuyoPuyo Tetris is on sale for the switch should I buy it

Or should I just get lumines?

I need my puzzle dick sucked

>>15764171

PPT on Switch sucks dick

Both the joycons and the pro controller are awful for it

And the online is a ghost town, or you get matches but they're insanely higher ranked than you

Get it on PC

>>15763904

lemme upload it for you

>>15764028

>so you can sue them to oblivion like loveroms and loveretro?

>implying this wasn't a good thing and pirates who profit deserve the bullet

>>15764171

You should probably exhaust your time with the various free or easily emulated versions of Tetris before you worry about buying one. Lumines is great, can't speak to the recent remaster but the original handheld version is good.

>>15764195

>PPT on Switch sucks dick, Both the joycons and the pro controller are awful for it

Does it really? I thought Wumbo played on Switch a lot.

>>15764348

50% chance that folder is full of lewd FBI malware gifs

>>15764171

>>15764316

>PPT on Switch

Switch d-pads suck ass (accidental up/down inputs when alternating left/right). Also console versions only have 1 audio track, while PC has both.

>>15764218

>>implying this wasn't a good thing and pirates who profit deserve the bullet

<he wants old out of print games to disappear because muh not operating at a loss is evil

I'd understand if they required a subscription or charged for downloads, but that wasn't the case. Also

<implying they aren't going after all sites anyway, monetized or not

>>15764171

get lumines

get classic tetris, aka Tetris (NES), emulate it

all the good players play classic tetris

>>15765528

Do you not know about the Grandmaster community?

>>15765561

>Do you not know about the Grandmaster community?

I know about them now after KevinDDR's video and do not have a favorable view of them.

>>15765582

make a tetris clone

>>15765589

i think it's just that guy honestly

the rest of them aren't that faggoty

also it's a cool game

Does anyone else see Tetris blocks when you close your eyes to go to sleep at night?

>>15767576

That happens to everyone who plays Tetris

>>15765528

>>15764171

With emulating classic tetris you also don't get the best VS puzzle game ever made, puyo.

>>15763155

The biggest problem is that garbage doesn't hinder your playstyle at all. Sure, garbage management and downstacking takes skill, but center 4-wide is busted good because you can absorb 17 lines of garbage and still be completely fine. If somehow garbage came from the top it would solve alot of problems. Not even mentioning how garbage feeds combos and even does damage of its own, for some reason.

get lumines

get classic tetris

>puyo puyo

no

>>15765582

>how do you make an engaging puzzle game?

By avoiding aspects and mechanics that turn off players, like the retarded forced diamond that's helpful when you're just getting started in Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo, but becomes a major hindrance to your chains once you stop being a complete noob.

>>15767807

>If somehow garbage came from the top it would solve alot of problems

That's a terrible idea. It would turn any mid-game spike (e.g. TSD into Tetris) into a game ender (multiple line clears * line clear delay means downstacking is almost impossible), and every opener would become either TSD or perfect clear. Basically, first person to send garbage wins. Unless you make garbage piss-easy to clear a la Tetris Friends, but then that would make garbage inconsequential.

>>15768136

Then how do you balance garbage inconsequential?

>>15768229

Who said garbage from the bottom was unbalanced in Tetris? Tetris Online Japan had sensible garbage distribution (hole column change on attack). If you wanted messy garbage you mixed some doubles/triples/REN into your clears. Perfect Clear openers were way less cheap as they would give your opponent 2.5 free Tetrises to send back.

The only thing that's blatantly broken is garbage blocking and 4-wide. The former shouldn't exist, and the latter can be greatly mitigated by deleting any blocks pushed to row 21 and above.

ps. when I was talking about TF garbage being retarded I was referring to non-expert rooms which will gladly give you 16 lined up holes even if your opponent did 16 doubles. Expert+ rooms are mostly alright save for the garbage blocking.

>>15768045

Pretty much same. Just don't find puyo puyo fun while tetris and lumines are pretty awesome.

Lockjaw was the shit. Looked absolute ass, but you could choose between different randomizers, speed-up rules, rotation systems etc. There was even an option to have hard drop with locking on button release, which feels smooth as fuck.

>>15769951

If you think about it compared to a game designed for versus play like puyo, the garbage coming from the top makes multiple playstyles and mindgames possible. In tetris one line of garbage does next to nothing, a couple blocks of garbage in puyo completely change the game if they were dealt at an inopportune time simply because they come from the top and block the pieces your opponent was utilizing. Even non-4wide can tank garbage zero-problem if they aren't very high up, it may even give them an advantage if the holes line up well enough.

Bought Tetris Effect yesterday. Really wish I hadn't- it's pretty awful.

>>15776670

You should have gotten Puyo Tetris instead. You get two games and a punch of modes in that one.

>>15776670

Buyo Tetris or Nullpo, always the best bet.

Nullpo is a little better since you can get it on pc without denuvo

>>15776711

>Complaints?

the visual effects are just distracting, the new features are little more than gimmicks, and the music is the New Age equivalent of Sonic Adventure butt rock.

>>15776755

addendum: you may want to take all this with a grain or fifty of salt, coming as it does from a bitter old anhedoniac who hasn't actually enjoyed a game in well over a year.

Anyone can link me to anything that shows the difference between the different Tetris games. I guess some got different modes but that and the fact that some Tetris games lets you see more blocks following the one that you are placing than other games. And some games let you T-spin as much as you want (forgot the term) making the game way easier. But other than those 2 things (and the graphics) what make each Tetris game different?

>>15781164

>Anyone can link me to anything that shows the difference between the different Tetris games

check a Tetris wiki: tetris.wiki, or harddrop.com/wiki/. they have listings of nearly every Tetris game and autistically in-depth guides and articles on mechanics

>what make each Tetris game different?

Tons of shit:

>rotation system

pre-guideline games vary wildly: some have lock delay, some don't (NES Tetris), some have wallkicks, some don't. The most well-known are TGM's and the modern Tetris guideline's Super Rotation System.

>game modes

there's a fuckton of variety. cascade Tetris (Tetris with cascade gravity), bombliss (in older games. cascade gravity, have to clear field, pieces have bombs in them), Sakura (from Sakura Card Captor Tetris, also in TGM 3), TGM series' VS mode and its wacky shenanigans, magicaliss (a weird mode in Super Tetris 3 with colors and cascade gravity), Tetris Party Deluxe's modes (Bombliss, field climber, stage racer, hot lines, shadow, etc.), Tetris Puzzle Gaiden's (SNES) VS with broken special attacks, Tetris Plus's Puzzle mode, EA's Tetris (PS3, PSP) and its fuckton of modes, etc.

>game-over condition

some games will end your playthrough if as much as a single block hits row 20, others 21. Others end if a block overlaps with your next tetromino which can spawn on row 20, or 21 depending on the game.

>garbage

guideline or not, garbage has never been truly standardized. some games have truly random garbage (like blockbox), others change the hole 90% of the time, others have retarded algorithms that give you several free tetrises (Tetris Party), some change it on every attack (TOJ), others send garbage with holes resembling the last piece used to send it (TGM Series). Others have unique systems (Magical Tetris Challenge).

>randomizer

Guideline games use a 7-piece bag system: you're dealt 1 of each tetromino in groups of 7. non-guideline games have differing randomizers. e.g. NES Tetris's does an 8-sided die roll to determine which of the 7 tetrominos you get, with an extra value for rerolling. If the 1st die roll gives you the same piece as the last or you get a reroll, it rolls a 7-sided die and you get whatever comes out.

>other mechanics

shit like soft-drop speed, auto-repeat rate, delayed auto-shift frames, hold, combos (REN), line-clear delay, T-Spin detection rules, All-spins (Tetris Party Deluxe), number of previews (usually 3 or 5 for guideline), etc.