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>>15717921

ESO is better than WoW/GW2, but that's not saying much. Worth a month or two to see everything there is to see.

>>15717921

>Are there any good mmos coming out soon?

There haven't been any good MMOs since everyone started trying to copy WoW.

>>15717921

Maplestory 2 is alright in comparison to most other modern MMOs.

That's not saying much because of what >>15717931 says.

MMOs are dead, accept it.

There are no good MMOs (sadly).

Eve online.

>>15717921

Honestly, none of them are worth it right now. I kinda jump from ff14 to ESO and back but I always get bored.

>>15717921

Just play singleplayer games that actually have an end, so you don't end up like a drug addict which is what MMOs turn you into.

OSRS. its also now on mobile, and works great

there are no new MMOs that are good. only thing I could personally recommend is Project Gorgon, but it's pretty much in alpha state

Uncharted Waters Online is going back on steam and might be getting a new expansion.

Is there any still alive good f2p mmo ?

>>15717931

I keep seeing this a lot and because I haven’t played a single mom aside from FFXIV and Black Desert I don’t understand it. What do mmos copy from WoW?

>>15718311

before wow

>more open world gameplay i.e no railroads into content the devs want you to play

>most felt like fantasy/sci-fi world simulators

>more focused on content that was community driven

>not completely balanced by the devs in to being unfun messes

After WoW

<end game is main focus, older content completely abandoned

<the world feels like giant lobby instead of a world

<over balancing to make classes "fair" and in turn they become homogeneous messes

<all content is dev created with little to no open world gameplay that can create it's own content

By this point I'm cautiously waiting for Camelot Unchained. It has all I find fun in MMOs and that is PvP with not much gimmicky bullshit. And by the looks of it, it wont be a much of the grind. Still, its a MMO, it has million ways to fuck up and only one to succeed.

>>15718355

I'm basically in the same boat, Camelot is the only thing that has seemed remotely competent in years.

We had a MMO thread not long ago, and why does it have to be a new MMO?

>>15718355

>>15718372

I tried a little not long ago DaoC in Uthgard (Private classic server) as my first oldschool mmo, and boy, slow as shit to level, and archaic controls. But I loved the concept and I wanted to at least try it. If CU becomes a a more manageable mmo (without losing complexity and not being just a WOW-clone) then I will join it.

>>15718409

Thing with CU is that is not a DaoC sequel. Aside from the concept itself of three realms fighting each other they wont have much in common. CU seems to be purely PvP focused game, PvE is almost non existent and if there is, it is to serve PvP. There wont be much level grind, no big difference between veteran player and a newbie stat wise. All of the gear will be player crafted and alongside the actual skill will be the only thing stratifying players. At least that what i got from the abysmally bad PR they are doing right now.

It wont be a WoW clone by any stretch of imagination but it wont be DaoC clone either.

>>15718464

>CU seems to be purely PvP focused game, PvE is almost non existent and if there is, it is to serve PvP. There wont be much level grind, no big difference between veteran player and a newbie stat wise. All of the gear will be player crafted and alongside the actual skill will be the only thing stratifying players.

If true, then good. Hope that this game succeeds.

>>15718355

>>15718372

Also hoping it will be above subpar, my brother and I really just want to be comfy dorfs crafting cool shit, and would be fine if the system they are talking about/attempting to implement actually works out. Worst case scenario, as far as I can see it, is another disappointment with a couple of decent ideas for others to pick from the bones for possibly a better game down the line, but in their defense the fact it's a 3 way fight between groups with the main focus being on them, I am at least optimistically skeptical. Really I just want more interesting crafting systems. As autistic as it is, I loved Wurm's crafting system, especially when it comes to many objects needing a bare minimum quality to actually be used, and being able to hand off items or leave them around for others to improve, and it's honestly a damn shame most MMOs don't even try to do anything with crafting beyond have items, click once or twice, you now have a rare sword!

To answer the Op's question, you won't honestly know if an mmo of any kind is good until you actually play it. Some that have been announced sound like they have pretty cool concepts (aging+permanent death, huge varied skill systems) but unless they make it to the final game it won't mean a damn thing. Black Desert had quite a few interesting ideas (power structures based on military, religion, and mercantile factions within the kingdoms themselves, if I recall correctly, a night cycle that is actually dark and required light sources) but many of these things were cut prior to even bitting beta, all because Koreans wanted to be ant people and mindlessly grind after a hard days work of mindlessly grinding. I just wish I could find the article/blog explaining the whole situation again, if anyone has it and could post it it would be much appreciated. If you ask me though OP don't get your hopes up until you see how close the game matches the idea. Not every idea can be implemented, but that doesn't mean your game should immediately turn into a gear treadmill/Gook Grinder if you were gunning for a sandbox game

>>15717921

meh, heard people are migrating to a new TERA server, in the SEA jurisdiction.

All mmos are still …there, even private servers.

I found out Scarlet Blade has a private server

>>15717924

Eso is just skyrim with always online, microtransactions and no mods.

Stop shilling that turd there.

>>15720300

>gameplay isn't even remotely similar to skyrim

>but it's skyrim

>(1)

>incorrect use of shilling

You can leave now.

>>15718133

>Project Gorgon

Picked this up recently. It's interesting but hardly worth the asking price unless you're a fanatic of what the game offers (loosely connected idea hodgepodge). If all the zones had the attention to detail the starter island had, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend the game to someone looking for something that isn't WoW all over again. Admittedly I'm not too far in yet, perhaps later areas improve as the developers get their bearings.

I'm having fun with it for what it's worth, but I struggle to see how PG could be more than a niche within a niche unless they upscale development – especially with their stated summer 2019 release date.

How is Lord of the Rings Online? Im tempted to install it, but want to hear opinion of it first.

>>15722713

Same shit, different pile, its not good.

Another braindead playground theme park, try it out though if you want. Grind out the free content. Also its owned by chinks.

>>15718464

Besides the 3faction thing, wasn't that what Warhammer Online tried?

I'm baffled how "not being too grindy" is a selling point for todays MMOs.

MMOs need good grinds and most grinds are bad nowadays but that doesn't change the fact that MMOs have always been about time investment and social interaction.

As for what MMOs are coming out, the only one I'm excited for is Pantheon but the devs are still crowdfunding and hiring. Earliest I see it in a playable state is 2020.

Recently I started wasting my time in BDO which is surprisingly entertaining so far. Nice combat and shitloads to do. Life skills ie what you do if you don't want to grind are unfortunately balanced around afking for the most part. Probably gonna hit a brick wall soon considering I don't want to buy microtransactions.

I hear there's a decent private server coming soon but I'm still busy learning the game as it's extremely huge.

>>15718297

Alive, yes.

Good, no.

>>15718297

The Old Republic is worth playing through at least once for the Agent storyline. I haven't touched it in years though and can't speak to what the subscription model looks like; back in the day they locked inventory space/sprinting behind a paywall. With the constant exp modifiers though you should be done before that becomes a problem.

>>15726083

>life skills in BDO

>not grindy

The fact they are almost all based on you leaving the game alone for 10+ hours should be more than enough to say that they are in fact grindy as hell. That being said, at least you're kind of funding it fun, but I warn you to avoid messing with value packs, as they essentially make or break your character. It's just a damn shame as the combat is decently fun, but that it's stuck in a Korean MMO

so aion 2 and blade and soul 2 are happening but they are mobile games

>>15718311

>I haven’t played a single mom

Phoneposting should be a bannable offence.

>>15718311

>playing your mmo's son

C U C K

FF14 is good for light roleplaying and ERP, and probably has the "best" gameplay.

Second Life (does this count as an MMO?) is good for heavy roleplaying and ERP, as well as griefing.

OSRS is good for community aspects.

No current MMO is good in regards to gameplay.

>ashes of creation turned into a battle royale mmo

lel dropped

>>15717921

All MMOs are wastes of time.

>Eve Online if you hate fun and want to stack piles of ingame currency. The game isn't difficult, its just super autistic and focused on joining the great nullbaby alliance and attempting teamwork with people who have no social ability.

>Trove action rpg of MMOs with the original design donut steal cubes, check out a video of it, if it looks like fun to you, you might have fun for a little while.

>dead gaem, this game is dead and has no players, such is the fate of good games

>>15727169

> turned into a battle royale mmo

Wait, what the hell? Was that the one that was talking about having an character age and perma death? What did they change?

>>15727550

i don't think it was that one. ashes of creation was basically trying to be archeage but not korean grinder p2w tier

>>15725991

With the risk of turning into a CU shill ITT. Its a same guy behind the both games. This one is more of a passion poject for him, he even put 7 million of his own money to the game's budget. I'm hoping he learned lessons from that game and his one wont end up like it.

>>15726548

Good. The more chinks abandon PC MMOs and move to mobile the better. I hope the entire PC market crumbles so that it can try again without their cancer.

>>15727519

I don't know about other anons but I know that mmos are a great way to fill the downtime of winter when you are on unemployment between construction seasons

>>15727169

>>15727550

Ashes of Creation is just doing the battle royale thing for their action combat testing, I am pretty optimistic for how the game will turn out. Their battle royale, and fortress siege is going to be open to everyone in a week or so and I intend on giving it a go. The CEO in an interview said that he isn't a fan of battle royale, but he wanted people to have something fun to do while action combat testing. And I am pissed, because I also dislike battle royales, but I am going to play the Ashes of Creation one when it comes out, because you will apparently be able to unlock cosmetics and mounts for the MMO. Remain weary of this game, but the CEO has been consistent with what he says, they are ahead of schedule, and actually have something playable. I just want a dream MMO for fucks sake. They still plan on doing their alphas as scheduled, then having a couple short betas, then a release before 2020 if things go as planned.

>>15727550

>Wait, what the hell? Was that the one that was talking about having an character age and perma death?

You are thinking of Chronicles of Elyria, which I am also hopeful for, but they are still really early on in their development and have very little playable so far. I think the little bit of playable footage they have shown, is actually being completely reworked in its proper engine now (I could be wrong on that).

>>15727909

>Ashes of Creation is just doing the battle royale thing for their action combat testing

Well that's a bit of a relief at least, thought another dev fell for a dead meme

>The CEO in an interview said that he isn't a fan of battle royale, but he wanted people to have something fun to do while action combat testing. And I am pissed, because I also dislike battle royales, but I am going to play the Ashes of Creation one when it comes out, because you will apparently be able to unlock cosmetics and mounts for the MMO.

At least it's an okayish way to have a semi random encounter with other people in open and closed off places. While I despise battle royale, I'd at least say it's better to see how small group and 1v1 conflicts play out than in the big fights that MMO's have started turning to. >Remain weary of this game, but the CEO has been consistent with what he says, they are ahead of schedule, and actually have something playable. I just want a dream MMO for fucks sake.

I know the feeling man. I can only hope someone finally figures out that people just want fun video games

>You are thinking of Chronicles of Elyria

Ah, sorry, there are a few I'm looking around at (beyond CU) that I know won't be out for a bit, but it's nice to try and keep track for something even if I know it's a long shot

>>15728058

The last couple of weeks I have obsessively been watching videos and reading about Ashes of Creation, and I am gradually becoming more and more optimistic about it, even though I have cynical about the genre for a long time. I am hoping this will be the one, but when something sounds too good to be true, as we all know, it usually is. How is CU coming along? I haven't looked too much into it because I am not a fan of factions, but if it is good despite that, I would definitely be interested.

>>15717921

>Prefers nuwow over vanilla

May I suggest trying mobile games?

>>15718107

>I kinda jump from ff14 to ESO and back but I always get bored.

This sums up MMOs currently. Those two are pretty much the best there is currently. MMOs will probably remain shit forever, because most have fully adopted lootboxes and microtransactions. And if nothing else they've become elaborate Skinner boxes designed keep people around much longer than they should realistically want to play a single game. Games aren't supposed to last forever. And the quality of a game should not be gauged by how long it is or how much money it makes.

Ashes of Creation is indeed the way to go- if you can stomach a subscription.

I can't, but I appreciate that it's furthering the genre as a whole.

Particularly excited for the "muh emergent world map is impossibru outside two dee" argument's timely demise as a ragtag group of dumb nerds put together something fat dev teams have been refusing to for years.

I mean, after the 'node' system becomes status quo and people get a feel for how it operates, and pairing in the partially ecologically simulated animals and monster Ashes shrinks the list of 'never ever's quite a bit.

It's a shame Everquest Next was mismanaged so hard, the ideas behind Landmark were a massive step in the right direction.

One day I'll be able to spend all my spare time forging and selling extremely powerful dong-shaped swords with dong-shaped hitboxes and dong-like stat bonuses/active effects in a feature complete MMORPG. One day.

>>15728322

I heard that a lot of the devs from Everquest Next got snatched up by Intrepid for Ashes of Creation after EQNext bit the dust. There is definitely a lot of similarity between the two projects. I am hoping Ashes is half the game they promise it will be, and so far things look like they are headed in the right direction. Another positive note is that Ashes of Creation is self-published in NA, so they can't get sold like Everquest Next was. The only things I am really worried about are them going full jew, or being unable to execute their vision well. I guess only time will tell.