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2e67c3 (6)  No.15697975>>15698126 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

Seeing that in a couple of weeks there will be deals everywhere (I hate consumerism, but the time to buy a new PC has come), I wanted to know what would be a good setup for gaming anything on ultra for at least a year ahead. I don't game in 4K (1920 does the trick for me) and I mostly play FPS-games. Should I go for Intel or AMD? nVidia or AMD?

Thanks.

2e67c3 (6)  No.15697979

Forgot to mention to keep it somewhat reasonable regarding to price. I don't want to blow off 5k.


191843 (1)  No.15697999>>15698008

How about you do even just a little amount of research first and have something to bring to the table instead of just wanting complete spoonfeeding like a fucking baby. Or use one of the other PC hardware threads. Holy fuck man.


2e67c3 (6)  No.15698008

>>15697999

Nice trips. Relax, pal. I tried asking in /tech/ but they were suggesting stuff like Thalos II, which is beyond my tech-level. Whenever I do research I just get reviews from dudes that get sponsored by companies… it's biased.

I guess I'll check the catalog again for a thread related to my question. Thanks for the help.


19cd00 (6)  No.15698126>>15698155 >>15698170 >>15698339 >>15698352

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>>15697975 (OP)

Here anon:

http://www.logicalincrements.com/

Also, one more tip they don't mention: Buy used, or at least refurbished, parts. You'll get identical performance for 3/4 to 1/4 the price, and you can even get a Square Trade warranty if you're paranoid.


4d585e (1)  No.15698155>>15698170

>>15698126

>Buy used, or at least refurbished, parts

Heh. Yes, definitely this. Only buy used.


c1f0da (2)  No.15698170>>15698187

>>15698126

>>15698155

Dumb question- if I want to sell/trade in my own PC, how do I make sure I've scrubbed all my personal data from it?

I assume factory reset is enough for selling to joe-public, but I also assume there are those who buy up stuff in hopes of of getting a password for something decent.


19cd00 (6)  No.15698187>>15698260

>>15698170

Depends on your level of paranoia:

If there's nothing you'd care about, factory reset is sufficient.

If you want to prevent casual snooping with PhotoRec or whatever, use a secure erase tool like:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/eraser/

If you're REALLY paranoid, just pop the PC open, pull the drive, and maybe throw in a spare if you've got one lying around. If it's big enough, you can use it for backups, if not, you can have it shredded.


c1f0da (2)  No.15698260>>15698316

>>15698187

Cheers anon.

Yeah it's just paranoia. TBH the parts I have won't even sell with how old they are, but better to know this stuff.

BTW, does BleachBit work (or the one that puts random data to overwrite the files over and over until it's all garbo)? Eraser seems better tho.


19cd00 (6)  No.15698316

>>15698260

Yes, both are broadly similar. And when erasing an entire drive at once rather than individual files or partitions, function primarily as a frontend to commands that the drive's own firmware executes on itself.


2e67c3 (6)  No.15698339

>>15698126

Wow. That's a great site! Thanks a lot, anon!


9599e1 (3)  No.15698352>>15698756

>>15698126

>DDR4

>SSD meme

>integrated graphics cards


19cd00 (6)  No.15698756>>15698914

>>15698352

>DDR4

Unavoidable for newer sockets, and fast RAM is especially vital for Ryzen, even with dGPU.

>SSD meme

Superior for boot volume and sluggish gaymes, though pairing smaller SSDs with bigger HDDs is the most effective configuration.

>integrated graphics

Legitimate option if you want something to tide you over until the distortion from Ponziminers and the RAM pricefixing cartel to fade, and it helps with PCIe passthrough hypervisors.


9599e1 (3)  No.15698914>>15699188 >>15699219

>>15698756

>Unavoidable for newer sockets

Hurr, then it shouldn't recommend a motherboard with newer sockets in the first place, specifically talking about the on budget categories here.

>SSD meme

Don't they have equally garbage W/R speeds to HDDs on smaller files where it actually matters in terms of performance I may be incorrect since I'm operating on a hearsay that I also don't quite remember?

>integrated graphics

Why not go for a laptop at this point? If you are not squeezing performance out of every cent and you are in desperate need of an PC at least make it useful. Laying a groundwork for your future beast that you'll build in 15 years just doesn't work as a concept, unless you have just materialized into existence and literally have no options but to build everything from scratch.


525054 (3)  No.15699188>>15699194 >>15701911

>>15698914

R/W speed of SSDs is shit but the one thing HDDs couldn't improve at was moving the reading head. So moving the head to the file is faster but reading is slower. So if the file is large it will take longer on an SSD. Reading many tiny files may be faster on an SSD if they are spread across the disc when testing the HDD because that would result in the hdd having to move the head which is comparatively to the reading itself really slow.


525054 (3)  No.15699194

>>15699188

>So moving the head to the file is faster but reading is slower

*So moving the head to the file is slower but reading is slower faster


525054 (3)  No.15699219>>15701911

>>15698914

However SSDs are really expensive if you don't buy utter garbage, so buy a big fast HDD from Toshiba, instead of a slow piece of shit SSD.

A fresh install of your operating system has way more impact on reducing your boot time than some fucking SSD ever will.


19cd00 (6)  No.15701911>>15702639 >>15702642 >>15702765

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>>15699219

>>15699188

I can't tell if this is genuine gitoffmahlawn brainlet crankery, or simply bait, but this bizarre idea HDDs ever held a candle to SSDs in any area other than GB/$ is something that seems to pop up in every other thread. If the latter, 10/10 got me to reply.

7200RPM HDD:

https://hdd.userbenchmark.com/SpeedTest/151897/TOSHIBA-MC04ACA200E

>average sustained write 149MB/s

15000RPM HDD:

https://hdd.userbenchmark.com/SpeedTest/14806/SEAGATE-ST3600057SS

>max systained write 198MB/s

SATA SSD:

https://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Crucial-MX500-250GB/Rating/3951

>average sustained write 370MB/s

M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD:

https://ssd.userbenchmark.com/SpeedTest/480586/ADATA-SX8200NP

>average sustained write 932MB/s

As anyone knows, a mediocre SSD creams even the fastest HDDs, and an SSD freed from interfaces designed for HDDs absolutely obliterates them.


2e67c3 (6)  No.15702639>>15705332

>>15701911

>an SSD freed from interfaces designed for HDDs absolutely obliterates them

>freed from interfaces

Please explain.


2e67c3 (6)  No.15702642

>>15701911

Also, checked.


9599e1 (3)  No.15702765>>15705332

>>15701911

>As anyone knows

That's why it's called a meme you dolt.

>I can't tell if this is genuine gitoffmahlawn brainlet crankery, or simply bait

Did you try reading first?

>bizarre idea HDDs ever held a candle to SSDs in any area other than GB/$

What's so strange about doubting a technology that is shoved down your throat, when it isn't clear whatever it's better or not? Neither benchmarks nor widely held beliefs are valid arguments, because given enough dedication either of them can be swayed one way or the other.

To reiterate, when looking at drive benchmarking info I've stumbled across the info that SSD is a meme. I don't remember clearly what it spoke exactly, but (even though it does look I'm changing the story here) I remember that the general idea was that SSD have speed consistency issues (not to be confused with SSD craft consistency).


19cd00 (6)  No.15705332

>>15702639

SATA/SAS is a descendant of the old IDE/SCSI/FC-AL busses designed for HDDs and other rotating storage devices back in the 1980s, and as a consequence is built with them in mind both in terms of raw throughput limits and command language.

PCIe is the native bus used to attach solid-state components on the motherboard itself together, such as CPU, GPU, NIC, and indeed SATA interfaces.

Newer SSD interfaces such as M.2 allow SSDs to attach directly to PCIe as first-class devices.

>>15702765

>it isn't clear whatever it's better or not?

Open your eyes man, "precautionary principle" only applies when evidence for both sides is inconclusive. In the case of SSD speed superiority, the evidence is WAY beyond conclusive.

>I don't remember clearly what it spoke exactly, but […] I remember that the general idea was that SSD have speed consistency issues

Look at my links, and notice that they include min, max, and consistency ratings on every metric, because they're drawn from tens or hundreds of user-submitted benchmarks, and the numbers for SSDs in all of those are somewhere between comfortably higher and stratospheric compared to HDDs.




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