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The best part is, those aren't the worst of the game's problems

>People are still going to buy this shit

>People on /v/ are still going to buy this shit

>>15695773

people are retarded enough to buy this on premise and brand alone

>>15695751 (OP)

>and caps framerate at 63 fps

I like how they cap it to just slightly above 60 to avoid frame time issues, like instead of actually addressing frame times that just gave up and capped it above 60 instead

>>15695751 (OP)

I saw this advertised on the side of a bus stop and was gripped by the urge to paint "For normalfags!" at the bottom for a tagline.

>>15695796

so edgy

>>15695791

I like how the majority of niggers will be playing around 30-40 fps at best if they're playing on anything that's not high-end because I'm pretty sure this thing is an optimized mess.

>>15695751 (OP)

>caps framerate at 63 fps

So it's a PC exclusive?

It'd be nice if they stopped raping the corpse of Fallout for 5 minutes.

It will still sell in millions.

>>15695847

It would if it was on Steam.

What happens if your framerate dips? Just spam molotovs or some shit that will tank the other players FPS. Typical Bethesda, instead of fixing the root problem just put a bandaid on it. Can't wait for the shitshow to come.

>>15695812

<He himself…

I have a friend that's a hardcore Bethdrone and even he's skeptical of 76. Todd and Pete may have pushed their luck a little too far this time.

>>15695893

You could do that with any game though. The framerate stuff was because if it went too high then the game would speed up. I doubt you get bullet time if the FPS hits single digits.

>>15695867

The real money makers are consoles unfortunately. Todd's games since Oblivion are designed first and foremost with consoles in mind; hence the shitty UI, piss poor graphics and dumbed down RPG elements. PCs in general and the modding scene in particular are just a cosy afterthought for Bethesda. This time around there won't be any mods thou.

>>15695893

You are just entitled. And playing game in a way that slightly upsets anyone is illegal.

>>15695864

Use a 21 year old engine that doesn't have any features that are necessary for an MMO online game (or an FPS-RPG game), have it written by half-retarded transsexual mystery meats, because after what bethesda did to HumanHead and Obsidian no sane and skilled programmer would want to work with them.

>>15695947

He is probably too retarded to be capable of introspection and see how worthless he is.

>>15695947

>>15695974

He'd miss his own head because of how stupid he is.

>>15695936

Which is stupid because plenty of games like this already beat Bethesda to the punch on consoles. Time and time again you have people say they like these games because "nobody makes ones like them" yet here they are making a bland fucking clone of your typical multiplayer survivor trash. Every single time Bethesda shits out a game that isn't Elder Scrolls or Elder Scrolls with guns it flops fucking hard and this one isn't any different.

>>15695947

Because he gets too many laughs from pseudo-fallout fans like you.

>>15695974

>Use a 21 year old engine that doesn't have any features that are necessary for an MMO online game

I'll have you know DAoC and Wizard 101 use the same engine and they worked fine. Bethesda is just subpajeet tier incompetent.

Also funny story, civilization 5 also runs on the same engine for some fucking reason. Ever wondered why it takes so long for AI to make a turn?

>>15695791

They could just call everyone who plays at higher fps a cheater and a Trump supporter and a nazi goobergater.

>>15696023

A real fallout fan in this thread, what a great achievement. Were you excited when 1st game with gay marriage was released? You fucking faggot.

When the hell does this shit show even drop?

>>15696106

Did you just make that gif? Cuz it's preddy gud.

>>15696117

Nah, had it from beforehand. Had to post it given the circumstances.

>>15695893

That wouldn’t matter anyway since PVP doesn’t even fucking work since there’s no incentive to kill each other and they HAVE to fight back for it even to activate

Bethesda could’ve just added a “pvp” option in the menu but they can’t even do that right

>>15696112

I'm not even gonna feel bad about the fuckers that are about to get scammed

>>15695974

But that's wrong you stupid fucking nigger. Gamebryo was made for MMO's. Remember Dark Age of Camelot?

>>15696138

Gamebryo was also used for Catherine. Which just shows that it can work in the right hands.

>>15696154

>game entirely about climbing made in gamebryo

>Bethesda still can't do ladders

>>15696138

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamebryo

Take a look at the amount of MMO's here and tell me this engine wasn't made for them. This is on (((Bethesda))), not the engine.

>>15696138

Does Bethesda's iteration of gamebryo have anything for MMO's?

>>15696162

Depends on how much they've altered it. But Gamebryo has been used for MMO's as recent as 2015, to great effect. Hell, they're using it from when Morrowind was a thing, and an mmo was made using it just a year prior.

So exactly what everyone in the last thread predicted.

But I lol'd at the FOV restriction. When all you have is a hammer…

what did the cake jew do to the previous thread?

OH WOULDN"T IT BE NICE IF TWITCH STREAMERS

KILLED EACH OTHER AFTER PLAYING THIS SCAM IN SHAME?

AND WOULDN"T IT BE NICE IF PEOPLE WORKED TOGETHER

TO JUST REFUND THIS FUCKING WORTHLESS GAME?

NO TODDPOSTING'S GUNNA MAKE IT THAT MUCH BETTER

SKYRIM MULTIPLAYER NEEEEVEER EEEEVVEEEEEEEER

WOULDN'T IT BE NICE IF WE COULD WAKE UP.

TO PETE HINES DEATH BEING THE IN THE NEWS?

AND AFTER HAVING CELEBRATED THIS TOGETHER.

WE'LL PARODY THESE ADS MADE BY SOULESS JEWS.

ALL THIS TIME SHITPOSTING THAT WE'VE BEEN SPENDING.

I WISH THAT FOR ONCE WE HAD A HAPPYYY ENDING.

OH, WOULDN'T IT BE NICE?

>>15696451

Make a vocaroo.

>>15696471

Not today, maybe later.

>>15695864

Leftist developers.

>>15695796

Never stop yourself from doing what is right.

>>15695847

And it will still be a flop. Nobody involved will be any successful. The company will lose more money because of it than what they earn by the sales. There is no escaping from bankruptcy once they hired leftists.

>>15696023

Impotent corporate shill still trying (and failing) to pretend that Bethesda is not going down quick.

>>15696138

He's just misinformed. The truth of the matter is that Bethesda are using an extremely outdated version of gamebryo as a base - it was pre-alpha if I remember correctly.

>>15696729

They could be using state of the art NASA tech as the base and they'd still fuck it up because they just suck that fucking much at doing anything right.

The FPS / speed issues simply revealed the lack of server-side checks. Locking the FPS doesn't prevent a speed hack, or any of the other possible cheats. Making movement FPS independent on the client also does nothing. The server is still letting hackers do anything they want.

>>15696782

Let me add to my post, if the server did check then the fast moving/shooting players would have been kicked or would rubberband and appear normal to everyone else. So it's a big red flag that they don't, just like radical sheights.

>>15696782

>>15696878

I wonder if you could hack the weapon firing speed to make it go high enough that you can kill players without them accepting the duel.

Would produce a lot of salt if a bunch of people did that.

>>15696880

What are the odds that the helmet has asbestos or some shit in it?

>>15697329

That would still be less carcinogenic than including the game.

>>15696903

If there are really no checks, then yes, and you might be able to just kill them even without shooting. It all depends on the scope of their design errors. That's good thinking though anon. I remember seeing a radical sheights hacker vid where someone was firing a solid beam of grenades (or it might of been demo packs) and just sweeping it over the map like a tornado of explosions.

>>15697336

well hey, if it doesn't bother you then go for it but i can't stand feeling like my eyes are floating 10 feet in front of my body.

>>15697392

low fov is more realistic for an online game since most people get tunnel vision from anxiety if theyre around other people.

>>15696903

>>15697376

Most modern "hacks" are either manual memory editing (exploits a client that assumes the state is always correct) and forged network packets (exploits a server that doesn't validate state).

>>15696451

>IF PEOPLE WORKED TOGETHER TO JUST REFUND THIS

It's not on Steam, no refunds for you, goy.

>>15697501

Nothing is stopping someone from forcing a chargeback.

>>15696030

Have to agree when modders are able to get vehicles working and the official developers cannot they're just retarded.

Going to be hilarious watching the bandwagon brigade get their hands on it and encounter griefers and find out the game isn't what they kept telling themselves it would. These people are so vile when Bethesda says they're relieving death threats after the launch of the game I'll actually believe a developer on that.

>>15697317

>>15697336

>competitive pvp-only games have been able to configure FOV since time immemorial

>there's even an ancient meme about "quake pro" fov

>bethesda's shitty pseudo-mmo can't because muh unfair advantages

>>15697407

Underrated post

>>15695773

This is the sad part, retards will buy this because their retarded friends will. It's still gonna fucking bomb though, that's for sure.

The hacks just can't make games for shit. All their games are complete shitshows at launch and for the better part another year after launch.

And their only saving grace is dedicated modding base that basicall adds basic functions that should of been there and turn the games into complex sex survival sims.

WEST VIRGINIAAA ahah epic song guys am i right? Please buy the game.

>>15696030

>>15696138

>Gamebryo apologists

Fuck off you faggots, the engine is shit and so are most games made on it.

>>15696161

>>15696138

>Gamebryo was made for MMO's

You're right that a lot of devs use it for MMOs, but I'm pretty sure you're wrong that it was made for MMOs. The engine was designed in 1997, before MMOs were really big.

Look at the earliest games released on it, back when it was still called NetImmurse. You'll notice they're mostly action, adventure and roleplaying games. Of the original 9 NetImmurse games, only one is an MMO.

It's still an old and awkward engine, the quality of the games made with it doesn't change that fact. You can make a great game in the original Quake engine but that doesn't mean it's up to par with modern engines.

>>15697632

Fuck I hate this game so much for ruining this song.

>>15697686

Its ok they didnt use the original *best* version, they have some NIGGER version.

>lock the FOV

>Cap FPS

>To eliminate engine bugs that could be exploited

>The goddamned engine/game is just a tweaked FO4

>Modders have already confirmed that all the current tools work with the game

>Tools that have been in development for over a decade, designed specifically to break Bethesda's games so they can be reconstructed

>Tools in the community have been training themselves on Bethesda's own documentation and software to break their games so they can be reconstructed - even without official tools

>There are already primitive mods for Fallout 76

>There is no patch, no real way to stop it

>Not unless Bethesda uses an entirely new game engine.

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout76

Can't wait to hear Pete Hines sperg out on Twitter about how these "hackers" are ruining their game.

>>15697839

He'll say that they're illegally altering the game and he's going to back trace them and report them to the cyber police.

>>15697842

It'll give them a good excuse to try to nuke Nexus and kill mods outside of Bethesda.net/CreationClub. They may not even bother though. Consoles have no real way to load mods without Bethesda's approval - and that's exactly the target audience that 76 is aimed for. Gullible fucks who are backed into a corner of their walled gardens. They'll probably just let the PC version burn with cheats and abandon all but bare-minimum support for it since there's nothing they can do to stop it even if they wanted. Likely why they backpedaled so fucking quick on the question of CrossPlay on 76 after making such a fucking stink about it while pushing their shitty mobile clicker card game.

>>15695751 (OP)

>caps framerate at 63 fps

Probably for the best considering that they tied their physics to frame rate.

>>15697866

Yes, that was the point. They were too lazy to fix the speed exploits caused by the engine so they just locked frames

Daily reminder that New Vegas was considered a total failure and rehash on release, so much that contrarians ate it up to feel special, and here we are now with an artificial consensus on 8ch that it's somehow a great game.

The truth: every Bethesda game is a one-size-fits-all sandbox with zero personality and purpose. A monument to normalfags, something that animals in a barn would play. If you want to grow in taste and skill as a person, never pick the tourist menu at the restaurant that's average for everyone.

>>15697949

Conduct suspicion.jpg

maybe fallout 76 is like one of those dolls that absorbs curses and bad luck that you send down the river

>>15697655

Hey Todd. Your codemonkeys are inept.

>>15696041

>They could just call everyone who plays at higher fps a cheater and a Trump supporter and a nazi goobergater.

Anybody got the link to the actual clickbait article (maybe it was an indieshitter's whining on Twatter) declaring that PC gamers' focus on specs, framerate, resolution, lag, etc., were racist and sexist?

>>15697949

>New Vegas is a Bethesda's work

>"G-Guys, do I fit in now?"

Made me reply to your stupidity, have a complimentary (you).

>>15697893

Todd has worked on a new animation system, but it's reserved for Starfield only. 76 is truly a side project made out of Skyrim's leftover assets and Quake 3's online codes.

>>15695926

Knowing that the result of having a high framerate in a multiplayer game where the game's logic is tied to framerate is that all of your character's actions are made much faster than they're supposed to be, what do you think is the result of having a low framerate in a multiplayer game where the game's logic is tied to framerate?

>>15698015

Starfield will be even more busted and worthless than Fallout 4.

>>15696138

Gamebryo is a graphics middleware, you dumb fuck. Lots of different types of games made on lots of engines with nothing in common with the Morrowind/Oblivion/Fallout 3/Skyrim/Fallout 4/Fallout 76 engine used it back when it wasn't just too hopelessly outdated for everyone but Bethesda.

>>15698021

I don't believe that, Bethesda has been working on it even before FO4 was released. The patent has existed since 2013. Rumors say that the concept has probably existed since the early 2000s when they cancelled their RPG Star Trek game development. Whether it's going to be good or not, we don't know yet, but it's a fact that they're putting extra effort into this game, even more than any Elder Scrolls game.

>>15697949

I swear it's just one guy that's always anal devastated about new vegas.

Here comes the derail spam. They've been doing this to every thread talking about how shit this game is.

>>15698012

>muh consensus

>muh akward irony

The Laws of Reddit

'A redditor on an anonymous imageboard will still seek consensus as if he was on Reddit. You may ban all tripfags, that he will still get influenced by the majority of anonymous opinions. A conformist is born one, his nature demands that he sticks to the norm.'

>>15695791

why are niggerdevs not using shit like requestAnimationFrame() in CURRENT_YEAR + 3? It's almost CURRENT_YEAR + 4 for fucks sake.

>>15697655

>Bully Scholarship edition

>Civilization IV

>Catherine

>Divinity 2

>Sid Meier's Pirates

The problem is clearly on Bethesda's end.

>>15695773

Peer pressure is a powerful thing. I still don't expect it to sell well despite that though.

>>15696880

>Games deletes itself

That's the most Rick and Morty thing on it.

>>15698245

From the same publisher that brought us Quake Champions. A literal AAA early access game that took over two years to finally release for free with zero fanfare and a playerbase just marginally above Battleborn.

>>15698033

Get it through your thick skull you fucking idiot: Bethesda is shit at everything.

>>15698262

Then how come am I still playing Oblivion like mad while other RPG's disinterest me about halfway through?

>>15698262

That's the main reason I'll enjoy the F76 bonfire. No modders to fix their game for them this time, all the errors are laid bare and will make the game unplayable.

>>15698268

Because you are the equivalent of a brat that prefers fast food to real food.

>>15698276

Oblivion is real food tbh.

>>15698268

You have shit taste.

I'm excited I can't wait for the shit show. I wish this game would put Bethesda out of business, such a fucking incompetent game dev. Fuck you Todd.

>>15696880

>>IP and account details are visible via basic hacks and aren't even encrypted or anything

I haven't actually heard of this. Source?

>>15698033

Bungie had been working on Destiny since Halo 3: ODST. They still remade most of it in less than a year due to executive fuckery.

>>15698178

You think their engine can do that?

Lol

>>15698268

Calling Oblivion an RPG is a bit like calling a go-kart a sportscar

>>15698178

Calling SwapBuffers in win32 waits for the next refresh and that can be easily changed to behave in another way with a single call to wglSwapInterval if you're using OpenGL. I'm sure it's just as easy in DirectX. So like all operating systems, Windows has had its equivalent of requestAnimationFrame built in from the start decades ago.

>>15698335

>light

>fast

>no unnecessary accessories

>competes in races

Technically, a go-kart is a sports car.

In the same vein, Oblivion is a RPG. It's a shitty game, but it is still a RPG. A worm in the apple does not change the definition of an apple.

Guys, don't you all remember when Godd Howard went up on stage and declared war on the SJWs? We must stand by him as the game experiences minor bugs.

>>15698517

You mean right after Pete Hines went up and said, and I quote "Fuck Nazis"?

Fallout 4 was also capped at 60 FPS because if you go any higher the game speeds up and lockpicking becomes retarded.

>>15698511

/o/ here, why don't you post on /o/ instead of letting it die, faggot?

How can a company that sold millions of copies of their games, that made billions, that owns id and has 400 employees keep releasing games this badly coded?

>>15698578

Free market just works.

>>15698582

Not free enough, there are still oppressive government bodies that prevent addition of crack cocaine to baby formulas to create addiction brand loyalty or games that mine bitcoin after you install them because you clicked "yes" on EULA without reading.

>>15698578

That one probably is on Todd. Too many old buddies that are kept on the team despite being retarded at coding, animation, etc.

>>15698915

It's to keep their little daycare of numale and pajeet codemonkeys running for a few more years. There is no actual game design goal aside from "copy shit we see in other games poorly and for the love of god don't test it". All of this is just to fuel Todd, Pete and Altman's egos.

>>15698796

> Too many old buddies

How come their older games were better, if the old buddies are incompetent?

>>15698915

>inb4 Bethesda killed Prey 2 to make their own shitty bootleg.

>>15698937

That is exactly what they did. Anons guessed as much back in 14.

>>15698043

>>bethesda

>>effort

This is the same company who literally had a multi-gig comprehensive community patch for their game and all it's DLCs just handed to them that fixed over 90% of the most egregious and gamebreaking bugs compiled over 5 years of market-level playtesting… and yet they couldn't even use it as a roadmap to bang out their own bugfixes in a weekend. They released the exact same game with all the exact same gamebreaking bugs.

There comes a point where even "lazy" or "cheap" isn't an adequate descriptor and it really seems like this is blatant contempt for their customers. It's like, they know they make barely functional shit games and they're actively judging you for having such terrible taste and poor judgement that you'd actually buy one of their near-shovelware releases.

>>15695773

>People on /v/ are still going to buy this shit

if its fun, then yeah.

>>15698955

>fun

Your definition of fun must be amazing.

>>15698949

I don't mean killing prey to make

>no morgan, yu were not the prey all along

but killing space bounty hunter game just to make their own dogshit bootleg of space bounty hunter flavored bethesda sand litterbox experience©

>>15698964

That's what I'm saying. The moment there was news of "troubled development" people knew we had another Arkane on our hands and then rumors of Todd wanting a space game started popping up and they few people with braincells left who give a shit about Bethesda put the pieces together.

>>15698961

Damn right!

>>15698930

Maybe because of people who were in the older team that since left?

Having said that, have Bethesda's titles ever had good animation or coding?

>>15698971

Sorry, I didn't remember that exact post and was too asshurt about Prey 2 to realize what starfield would be.

>>15698955

>t. Blodd Choward, independent video game consumer

the creation engine really isn't bad at all. we have to remember betheshit is utterly incompetent. if people of actual quality were developing and designing betheshit games there would be no problem

>>15696162

They've explicitly stated that they recycled the Quake netcode for this game. Which sounds like it "should" be good, but as has been stated numerous times in this thread, Bethesda devs specialize in using state of the art tools to create garbage. Not to mention it probably isn't the right tool for the job because Fallout 76 isn't a game that involves landing perfect rockets on players bunnyhopping at 70 MPH and Quake isn't a game that involves hundreds of NPC enemies.

>>15699164

When they say the Quake netcode do they mean the real Quake people actually kind of liked or Quake Champions?

>>15699051

But there haven't been any multiplayer games released with it apart from Fallout 76 which already shows extremely severe issues in that area. It wasn't designed with multiplayer in mind and many would argue that dooms it to failure. It Crytek a good or a bad engine for single player games? What difference does that make to Star Citizen? This is a similar situation.

>>15699164

Why don't Fallout 76's servers stop people from running or shooting faster than they are supposed to? As I know speed hacks aren't possible in past Quake games or Quake Champions but they are in Fallout 76, as the FPS bugs accidentally showed.

>>15699227

Because nobody actually gave a shit about Quakewatch to hack it.

>>15699227

Because when Carmack coded Quake's netcode he simply assumed that people would modify their game files and setup because that's what happened with Doom all the time, so the server checks all files for consistency and enforces a consistent rate of processing on the server (called a tick rate). In networking terms, your "frames" (not actual frames but the input you provide during them) are capped at a server's tick rate. They are literally just trusting the clients to all be magically consistent in their input rates. This might have been doable if they set up their client side code correctly but apparently they tied mechanics directly to framerate like a bunch of fucking Mongoloids.

>>15699192

Nowhere I've seen it mentioned has specified. I'd guess that they used QC's code since the idea of a Bethesda dev being able to interpret older-style C++ to their modern engine makes me chuckle.

So how will they remove hardcoded ability to cheat shit with cheat engine? Who in their right mind makes pvp multiplayer game on singleplayer game engine that's so easy to cheat in and mod.

>>15699288

You can't edit the ini file anymore apparently, but I really don't see how they can stop people using cheat engine, given the limitations of the creationbryo engine.

>>15699268

Expect this to be a record breaking disaster then because Champions had hands the down the worst netcode and optimization I've ever seen in a game period, and that was in the hands of people who actually made a shooter or two.

ds

>>15699345

So you are right, I meant to say

>>15699345

>yfw bethesda games are the ultimate in solipsism, but your characters are always retards so nothing beyond 300 meters radius actually exists.

>In all bethesda games you play as THE CHOSEN ONE because the engine doesn't allow anything else.

>>15699453

>I'm going to misuse greentext

>I'm going to make shitposts on an imageboard

>>>/cuckchan/

>>15699345

>The conclusion: it isn't. It seems like they're not really using "Quake's" netcode at all. Not as a whole system as it was intended, anyway. More like little pieces and horribly misused

Yeah, I don't mean to imply that Quake's netcode is bad or that Bethesda even cross-implemented it correctly.

>>15699509

>misuse of greentext

>not understanding im implying

>>>/reddit/

>>15699545

The 2nd implication threw me off

>>15699536

It must be a nightmare trying to retrofit everything. I can't imagine a good programmer being able to stomach it.

I feel like for every purchase of fallout 76 cyberpunk 2077 is gonan get delayed by 1 more day

>>15699592

>Fallout (20)77 is the next logical game to release

>Comes out at the same time as Cyberpunk 2077

>Todd puts in no effort

>Reaps the rewards of confused consumers buying his shit on accident

4D chess.

>>15699592

>caring about cybertrash 2077

Explain why.

>>15699611

because i want to play it, why the fuck else would i want A VIDEO GAME for?

>>15699592

Rednecks With Glowing Shotguns 2077

>>15699651

Is that a 40GB patch which overwrites most of the files because Beth can't make decent code to save their lives or is it 40GB of additional files on top of the existing 50 ?

>>15699671

Probably $cat club "content"

>>15699651

How long until it deletes the update?

>>15699606

FO4 didn't sell all that well and is sitting on a "Mixed" rating on Steam, and pretty much everyone is calling 76 shit.

This might actually be the moment Bethesda's reputation starts to plummet.

>>15699706

My money is on them overwriting the whole game directory. It's just the kind of incompetence one would expect from Bethesda.

>>15699738

My theory is that Bethesda are just pushing to see how far their brain dead fans will eat their shit up. If 76 succeeds again despite being absolute dog shit it will signal that they can continue to cut corners and pump out products that cost relative penny's to make. If 76 fails hard then they'll just scale back and literally just make elder scrolls 6 to be skyrim with new graphics. They'll bank on fans says how they've seen the error in their ways and come back and it'll probalby work. Of course then the cycle begins again and the idiots will be milked again.

>>15699572

Speaking as a "good" programmer who has had to retrofit a ton of code, yes, it sucks ass. Especially if the original code was shit to begin with, that usually just results in throwing most of the old code out.

>>15695773

this makes me wish for a nuclear winter

Bethesda should've limited the beta to that forest region, shit made the whole thing limited to the vault and actually made it something more than a straight corridor with robots, put in minigames and shit so the idiots that preordered could swallow up the "social" aspect while dangling the wide world out of the vault in front of them. Now a lot of people spent their time exploring and realized all places look the same and there's no mission variety, I wonder how many are refunding even now.

>the game is so bad an uniteresting that /v/ doesn't even bother hating it

Wew bethesda.

>>15699625

It is marxist propaganda. Not a game.

Thus, it will be shit.

>>15699625

It is marxist propaganda. Not a game.

Thus, it will be shit.

>>15700105

I'd be surprised if it was more Marxist than RDR2 at this point. Portrayal does not mean flattery.

>>15699625

>Playing borderlands, with cyberpunk

Can't really stop you, but please reconsider.

The gameplay trailer looked poorly.

>need augment to see ammo count

>don't need one to see damage numbers on enemies

Not to mention CDPR being cucks.

>>15700157

Speaking of which, I just played through the original Borderlands. Such a shame, it really could have been a great series, but it decided to be shit.

>>15700163

The world was interesting and it's baffling how they wasted all the worldbuilding on an underwhelming shooter with randomly generated loot.

>>15700179

>>15700163

I don't think I've played another shooter with more fucked hit detection.

>>15699625

Because on /v/ it’s hip to be over reactive and shit on the dumbest things and whine about mug marxism and cucks

>>15700187

Bullets have travel time and randomized accuracy ratings fuck with a lot of precise aiming. Hit detection itself is fine. You want shit detection - play Just Cause 3.

>>15695831

>Implying Fallout is even a dead franchise

They just need to give it back to Obsidian and let them run with it. See: New Vegas.

Even though Bethesda games have been low effort bullshit since Oblivion, this is an accomplishment in terms of corner cutting, incompetence and overall lack of creativity I have seen from them.

>>15700218

I've shot bandits point blank with zero feedback before. It was a huge problem on release.

>>15699345

Any information? Makes me wonder if it could even be in the form of viruses.

>>15700285

I don't remember it being that bad. I played it some time after release and now I played through FitGirl's repack.

>>15700333

It wouldn't surprise me if the fix didn't come until one of the DLCs.

>>15700372

At least 2 were out because I recall beating Dr. Zed and Armory of general Knox with friends.

>>15698915

Starfield exists because they looked at No Mans Sky and Star Citizen and went "Shit Son We need to get in on that action".

>>15696880

>>IP and account details are visible via basic hacks and aren't even encrypted or anything

How could they let this happen?

>>15700989

The degenerates charade was to lure in unsuspecting wrongthinkers with a game that would get them put on an antifa hitlist?

>>15700587

>tfw he took down all of his videos

>tfw nobody saved the strange one with the Russian text and the famous painting

Why does locked FOV and capped framerate at 60fps matter?

Please explain to me the reasons I am dumb.

>>15701413

It's time to nuke gaming as an industry.

>>15701413

I like how barely a quarter of the reactions to this tweet were even remotely positive. That copypasta really killed that show.

>>15701432

isnt the show over so it should lose popularity

>>15701424

Many monitors use different refresh rates. I've had a couple that use 75, and more common expensive ones use 120. Of course, this means it's capable of displaying more frames per second, so the motion's more fluid.

This gets rid of that ability. Also, in a lot of these engines, uncapping it makes the game logic mess up, as the default physics or movement speed are based on 60 and are not written to take into account other speeds (a practice, mind you, that was seen as fucking retarded in the late 90s let alone nowadays).

FOV is capped at a smaller than average number. For a lot of people, FOVs smaller than 90, sometimes even smaller than 100, cause motion sickness and nausea.

>>15701424

locked FOV doesn't matter as much as people say. It's total ass cancer's pet issue that makes me glad he's dead. Basically a comfortable FOV is determined by your distance but on average 90 for PC monitor distance is ideal, and as low as 70-75 for TV viewing distance is ideal. Giving players to tweak it freely does open up to unbalanced play as someone playing on stock FOV will be able to see less than someone playing on a FOV 20 degrees higher.

It doesn't really matter very much but people are autistic and made it a hot topic instead of criticizing actual game design.

>capped framerate at 60fps matter?

this matters even less and for a hackey engine like gamebryo/creation it's best not to fuck with it. 144hz/120hz monitors are uncommon, all displays support 60hz as a standard and there's nothing wrong with targeting it. 120hz fags still get by, 144hz fags should be fine if they got a decent monitor.

>>15695796

>for normalfags

>not painting a toddpost or taking the piss on pete hines instead

>>15698171

Bethesda (not defending them) had nothing to do with FNV, you massive fucking sperg.

>>15697337

very nice

>>15701424

FOV is field of view. The larger the Field of View the more stuff you can fit on your screen. More visual info for the player, unfair advantage, blah blah blah. Overall it's a good option when you want to tune the game to a unique screen size.

When we talk about Framerate is when things get intresting. Due to the real piece of work that is the Gamebryo Engine, physics and game speed are tied to frame rate.

So a player that has 120 fps will travel twice as fast, fall down (gravity) twice as fast, fire projectiles twice as fast, and play melee animations twice as fast as a player with 60 fps.

You'd need a NASA-tier computer to be able to get anywhere near 120hz on Bethesda's shitty engine max settings, but I doubt the sweaty try-hards will be playing on max graphics if it means they can move faster.

So this artificial cap is a shitty patchwork job by Bethesda's interns who don't possibly have the skillset to fix the Gamebryo Engine.

Doesn't matter though because the game will probably be Cracked and Hacked within 24 hours.

Personally I hope Pirates can take the framework of this games multiplayer and make Skyrim Multiplayer an actual thing.

>>15700980

>one faggot with the nickname "FALLOUT 4 DL FASTER PLS"

Christ.

>>15701494

The whole QA team for NV was provided by Bethesda.

>>15701602

>came out buggy as fuck

That explains it

>>15701634

Another part of the reason why it was buggy was the conflict between Sawyer and Gonzales over deciding what to put in the game.

>>15701413

This game is going to sell like crazy

>>15701704

fallout is a normalfag tier series now along the same level as CoD, people are going to preorder it in the millions regardless of quality.

>>15700996

Even more reason to kill antifags.

>>15701690

It won't Companies are losing in all fronts, every day.

>>15701715

And it will still flop. And even less people are falling for the pre order scam.

>>15695796

"Don't believe his lies!" would be a better choice. You get the message across, maybe get a few laughs, and you'll just be charged with vandalism instead of a hate crime.

>>15701020

>he took down all of his vids

Did he have a meltdown or something?

>>15700123

>a game about shitty future

>full of degeneracy

Yeah, who would've guessed.

>>15695751 (OP)

63 fps framerate is actually an improvement over the 30 fps framerate that Beth is normally known for.

>>15701877

With this game’s shit optimization, you’ll likely be getting silky smooth 22 FPS instead

>>15701896

>two Dumbeldors

I thought there were three.

>>15701896

>closed source because fuck you you're not allowed to see our code

>development couldn't pick up until TES3-MP came along (and had its source code released)

What did he mean by this?

>>15701948

But we might be able to say it's fun with friends someday.

>>15700217

>I'm fine with the destruction of white culture portrayed positively in media

Fuck off.

>>15698180

The newest game on that list is 7 years old.

You're not helping your case, buddy.

>>15701413

>>15701988

Why? Because there are better engines?

The point was that Bethesda and thier incompetence is the biggest reason why things are going to shit.

It's funny how game devs with 1 year of experience with Gamebyro can make far better games than Bethesda with 20 years of experience.

>>15701424

>Why does locked FOV and capped framerate at 60fps matter?

Capped FOV is because shitter complain about 30-40 FOV hypersniper and 110+ FOV fisheyed people having an advantage over their shitty 75-90 FOV.

Capped framerate is not as much of an inconvenience as people try to make it seem though, provided the cap is 60 or more.

>>15698915

nuprey was shit enemy was trash

>>15701438

No it's not, in fact Adult Swim has requested 70 more episodes.

>>15705227

Mike Lazzo promised Sam there would be 100 more episodes of World Peace, but look how that turned out.

>>15705258

There probably would have been ten more seasons of WP if Buzzfeed didn't assassinate MDE.

>>15705237

>midget "huwite"

>nigger lesbos

>a brave and stunning xyr with bubble gum

I bet the asian guy contemplated what went wrong in his life to star in this shitshow.

>>15701690

Everyone I know refunded it after trying beta.

>>15705264

>Buzzfeed

That's a funny way of spelling Tim Heidecker.

>>15705794

I just started watching the re-stream and it's unreal how bad it is. The game is running at sub-30 and Justin Roiland doesn't fucking help at all.

>>15705816

I refuse to believe that that's a real screenshot. Someone must've shooped it. It's too perfect.

>>15705859

I don't know if you can embed already streamed videos, so here's the link just in case for your viewing pleasure.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/333428043

>Trusting a company that hasn't made a game without launch bugs in 30 years.

I pity any person who still gives Bethesda money.

They want this game to be a success so bad.

>>15696703

>Leftist developers.

(((Zenimax))) isn't leftist, they are all in for shekels as their goal. With lowest possible effort. Minimum investment, aiming for maximum profit. That is capitalism at its finest.

>>15706648

>R&M VAs

It's one person who voices both characters, he was talking to himself the whole time. He also seemed completely uninterested in the game and was barely even trying to do the voices well. At one point, in complete deadpan, he starting talking about how detailed and realistic a rock was, and near the end of it he tried talking about how excited he was to visit one of the locations without the slightest hint of enthusiasm in his voice, couldn't even finish the sentence, and cut it off with something like "I'm so exci- I, yeah." The stream was having constant technical issues, the Rick and Morty facerig (or whatever they used) was horribly animated even by modern cartoon standards, there was massive audio-visual desync throughout the whole ~3 hour stream that they never managed to fix (it was so bad that people thought it was pre-recorded, since the Rick and Morty guy would mention something happening and then it wouldn't happen until something like 20 seconds later), and the framerate was terrible. The Rick and Morty guy seemed like the only one who had ever played a Fallout game before, and even then just barely, since he at least knew what VATS was. The other two streamers were absolutely amazed that Super Mutants were capable of talking, and at one point one of them started talking about "that wrist thing" and the two of them spent a few minutes trying to remember what "that fallout wrist thing" was called before they both gave up.

>>15706259

Because you have to retcon the game so chinese bugmen can pay you tons of money to see obliterated america.

human eyes can't see past 60 fps

>>15695773

Confirmed. I currently work with a pleb that preordered it for pc

fucking cows

>>15701413

PICORIKI'S IN THE HOUSE TONITE

>>capping frames and limiting fov because you designed it mainly for consoles and dont want to fix the real problems in the engine

now this is next generation lazy

Guys, sorry, but I'm going to buy it.

Not because it's objectively good or anything but because the current video game market is dryer than an absolute vacuum and if I don't drink something, I'll die, and I'm so fucking thirsty that sewage water will do just fine.

>>15706893

Pete Hines is pleased I bet.

>>15707225

You shouldn't feel bad for liking something or wanting to play it. If you can have fun playing this, you damn sure should.

But for the rest of us, we'll be making fun of it for sucking.

>>15706893

>The other two streamers were absolutely amazed that Super Mutants were capable of talking

They talked in every single game! The first tim we ever see a Super Mutant in Fallout he talks! Every single game has them screaming at you! There are voiced companions in every main game since two! Who the fuck hired these people?

>>15701413

The static animation combined with the unenthusiastic voice acting makes it seem like Rick and Morty are extremely bored and uncomfortable but can't say anything or leave because they don't get paid until the stream ends.

>>15706648

Who's this semen demon?

>>15707225

You’ll just get cuck’s remorse later and wonder what else you could have spent that $60 on

>>15707336

Which is entirely true (in the case of the VA).

>>15706893

>spent a few minutes trying to remember what "that fallout wrist thing" was called before they both gave up

What the fuck was Beth thinking hiring these guys?

I know that Ninja faggot is the most popular streamer, but they should have at least paid someone who PLAYED the Fallout games before.

Terrible.

>>15707821

If they played the other ones, they’d talk about how 76 is a piece of shit

>>15707860

Good point.

>>15707336

The saddest thing is that ninja is a fortnite streamer. His target are children. Ricky and morty targets are retards.

You can see who the targets for this game are right there.

Fallout is now officially a family friendly franchise suit for retards.

And it wasn't even their franchise to begin with. Tim Cain got outbid by zenimax.

Goddamn this is really hearthbreaking.

>>15709077

Ah, the Robocop effect.

>>15695773

requesting that /v/ steam group screenshot and marks steam profile of all the shit gayms hes bought

>>15709767

It looks more like the soy will be replaced with souls

>>15711365

get the fuck out of here with your gay shit like 'probability theory' and 'logic', I want to shitpost

>>15711401

Where? In every Beth thread I see there are only people shitting on Beth games. This thread is only full of people shitting on Beth games.

What, did you see four anons baiting somewhere and assumed "that's it, /v/ is now /r/Bethesda"? I'm sick of this bullshit from faggots like you.

>>15706014

Proof that you need an IQ of 200+ to truly appreciate Bethesda games.

>>15711401

lmao what

>>15709767

>soy oil

>soil

we're going to bury all the retards sooner or later, yes

>>15711939

>mmo game

>has dlc

I'm sorry, what?

>>15711966

fallout 76 is basically fallout 4 with online support slapped on it, modders found out they could import fallout 4 mods without changing anything.

>>15698725

>games that mine bitcoin after you install them because you clicked "yes" on EULA without reading.Where have those now thanks to fucking China.

>>15712003

>modders found out they could import fallout 4 mods without changing anything.

I wonder to what extent. Meaning would it be possible to just the whole fallout 4 data so we could have an online mode? If so then this news alone opens up a shit ton of avenues especially for bigger projects already being made.

The only roadblock now is the servers themselves and how much we can manipulate it until they decide to host private servers.

>>15700980

>Steam group for an anonymous imageboard

Cancer.

>>15712092

Now imagine every game having that on top of denuvo and always online because 3 digital-only distributors left in the world conspired (^:

>>15712247

Anything under 120 fps is just unplayable, I'm still baffled at people who still play at 60 and under.

>>15712301

It already happened