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>There are desktop computers with 16 fucking cores but it's still not multi-threaded because the guy can't be bothered.

>The lowest effort indieshit pixel art possible, because they guy can't be bothered.

>There are commercially available VR goggles and brain scanning devices, but still only supports a keyboard because they guy can't be bothered.

>Over a decade of dev time are spent simulating miles of blood vessels and tendons so the word salad output can tell you what body parts got cut off.

>"b-but m-m-mods can fix it, just follow this hundred page wiki and install 10 other programs like a normal person"

You know what else is a fun game if you use your imagination? Vim.

Kill yourself.

>>15682857

>DF isn't a game, it isn't even a public beta test of a game, it's a conceptual pre-alpha allowing you to take part in the decades-long development of a man's masterpiece.

Kek. Fanboys always come up with the best excuses for their devs. Just look at Star Citizen. You can tell the Toady's game is so bloated now he can't manage it. All your talk of "world simulating", "lore generating", and "history" is instantly shattered when you realize stone makes almost all of the trades are useless, raised cages/bridges/walls make all of the military structures are useless, and the only thing you can really do once you get established is suicide by clowns since the framerate is too shit now for dwarf science and there is no real chance of your civilization crumbling as a real one would.

>>15684072

>Just look at Star Citizen.

I have put 0$ into DF and i have a enjoyable free game.

>You can tell the Toady's game is so bloated now he can't manage it

The fps rate has gone to shit lately, I'll admit that.

>All your talk of "world simulating", "lore generating", and "history" is instantly shattered when you realize stone makes almost all of the trades are useless

What does stone value have to do with world simulating? Most of it happens in world gen and you interact with it via fortress or adventure mode.

>and the only thing you can really do once you get established is suicide by clowns since the framerate is too shit

If the framerate is so low for you that it actually makes the game unplayable, you should get a laptop not made in 2010.

>>15684072

At least he's trying. What happens when you put user-friendly UI in before the rest of an elaborate game's systems are ready? You get pic related, where retarded fans were attracted by something broken, and any features worth caring about were basically dumped.

Balance strikes me as something that will be tuned later rather than sooner.

>>15682169

Good bait

lack of multi-threading is the only real argument

about time we had one of these threads, I'm posting these in hopes that someone else will post more dorf fort memes

Bost combat logs

>>15682857

>masterpiece

It's a disasterpiece, an exemplary case of mission/feature-creep. What does the religious system bring to the table when you can't even play the game for any reasonable duration of time in fortress mode due to completely substandard performance?

>>15684118

>The fps rate has gone to shit lately,

>lately

Nigger, this problem has been going on for years now, and with every new patch the problem has been made worse. But hey, it's completely okay since it's Toady right? He can never do anything wrong.

>>15688114

the blue peacock won

>>15691751

Its weird. 0.40 was basically nothing to do: the game. Tantrum spirals were almost completely removed because emotional reactions were nerfed. There wasn't the off-screen world map (C)ivilisation screen shit you can do now, and there wasn't really anything interesting with Dwarves. The only stuff you could do is kill shit.

The issues I see with FPS death that people are complaining about aren't all THAT significant if you consider they've been around for ages. 3x3 embark size is still quite good and is guaranteed to have at least 1 adamantine pillar, and having a fuckhuge population is more filler than anything tbh. The biggest problem with the game right now stands with the introduction of the new memories and interpersonal relationships. Basically there are two things happening making medium-long term forts unviable

1) Dwarves will remember being rained on 15 times a decade ago and that will take emotional precedence over the memory of them birthing a child, or whatever other example you can think of involving +Schist mugs+ and a cave crocodile. It wasn't long ago either that actually Dwarves would having repeating terrible memories and experiences on the same subject, so it was seen that your Dwarves were developed PTSD from seeing tens of smashed gobbo teeth lying around and would wreck your fort in tantrum spiral. Thankfully it was fixed.

2) (And this is the main one) Dwarves don't actually socialise properly, so new migrants come to fort, sit around doing work or whatever and after a while will start getting negative emotions from not being able to talk to family members or friends even when they're there. There is supposed to be a way to cheese this by unassigning and reassigning labours of defective Dwarves and setting multiple meeting locations, but mostly its broken as fuck. The Dwarves will become depressed as fuck over time and will inevitably enter into a tantrum even with masterwork shit all around them.

Toady is aware of the second issue apparently and I heard its supposed to be fixed on next release when all the new villain shit and relationship linkages with hist figs come into the game.

>forget that dwarves get bad thoughts just from seeing dead bodies so I just stacked corpses on the front lawn

>dwarves are now picking eachother off slowly even after I make a building around the pile

Guess I might as well go full warmonger while I still have an army.

>>15694614

I've started making corpse towers in my forts. Just large multi level buildings filled up with corpses, left without a roof to avoid miasma build up of course. It avoids a lot of the nonsense with your fort going outside and just seeing mounds of death. Also you could use your military for corpse hauling or just some dwarves you think have superior emotional resistance.

>>15696657

It isn't my fort, but I know how you feel. I tried to make a circle fort like in the pic but then I just ended up slapping rectangles everywhere

I recently learned though that the automine feature for dfhack is really nice if you have lots of gems or metal ores that occur in veins, since the resulting paths can come out pretty organic like.