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>tfw too pleb to enjoy cRPGs

I've tried a bunch and never get very far. I just want a game that plays more like a Dark Souls, Nioh or Dark Messiah but that has deep dialogue and RPG mechanics.

>>15678245

So the Witcher series?

Only "recent" CRPGs I've played are Underrail and Age of Decadence. Both are great games, though Underrail stuck with me the most because I like the setting, and the combat is the superior one out of the two. Also helps that they're not RTwP garbage like everything in the OP.

>>15678253

Sure, but I've already played them quite a bit. I'm talking deeper than the Witcher though but still an aRPG. More dialogue that means something, more choices and consequence, more character variety etc. More like an Elder Scrolls game but not buggy shit with bad combat and bad quests and writing.

>>15678308

>More like an Elder Scrolls game but not buggy shit with bad combat and bad quests and writing.

Those are kind of inherent to the design you're looking for. Morrowind and Daggerfall had decent writing, okay combat and pretty cool quests. But you're never going to get the quality of say Arcanum in an action oriented game. And you're certainly not going to get anything but surface level RPG mechanics in them either. Because action games are the antithesis of adopting RPG systems for video games.

>>15678359

Yeah, it's pretty reminiscent of CYOA games, I agree. Still there's hubs to explore and the hard skill checks mixed with a very branching story gets certain stat fags really hard.

>>15678200 (OP)

underrail was okay but had a lot of problems which is expected for indie games

the game turns into a slogfest really fast

>almost all the quests are just fetch quests or go kill X and return

>walking speed is too slow for the amount of empty areas or areas with respawning trash enemies

>game has time wasting activities like merchants only buying X amount of an item before you have to wait 90 minutes in-game for them to buy more or god forbid making super steel

>crafting is shit and mostly getting higher rated components so you can do a few more points of damage or blocking

Haven't tried Cleve's mega masterpiece yet, but it's supposed to price drop soon

just go back and play goldbox and dark sun

ssi reborn never ever

>>15679021

>Just as in the good old days tier

Grimoire

>Good tier

Staglands

Underrail

>Visual novel tier

Age of Decadence

>>15679108

>>Visual novel tier

>Age of Decadence

the fact faggots like you say this is the reason crpgs are dead. honestly aod is too hard for the brainlets on 8chan

>>15679108

>Grimoire

did he fix all the microissues and released the manual yet?

>>15679126

It's not too hard, I've beaten it two times. It's just that it removes all gameplay besides dialogue and combat from the Fallout formula and that pretty much leaves you with a VN. But more importantly I don't think succeeding skillchecks in dialogue really is gameplay nor is it very interesting. See video related for a good talk on choice in games. In AoD you get teleported around to stat check dialogue with "I win buttons" and if you lose them get to fight enemies in a pretty shitty replica of Fallout's combat system.

>>15679130

I don't know, I finished the game quite some time ago and haven't kept myself updated about it. It's perfectly playable and enjoyable.

I recently played through Pillars of Eternity up until Act 3. Felt very solid but got a bit burned out 50-60 hours in.

For a second I thought the 3rd pic said

>Tranny

All the kickstarted CRPGs by "big name devs" have turned out to be utter shit. Pillars, Numanuma, Tranny - DO NOT BOTHER.

Pathfinder is good, if extremely buggy.

Serpent in the Staglands is a bit dry and hard to get into regarding the setting but very well done otherwise.

>>15680535

Tranny was better than Pathfinder imho.

>>15680663

In what regards, assuming you're not humbly shitposting? Tranny/PoE has one of the absolute worst RPG systems I've seen and I've read FATAL.

>>15683511

Cultural appropriation.

Why is a nigger in armor?

>>15683746

You can't appropriate white culture, goy! After all, whites stole everything from the rest of the world, so they are simply take their culture back from the white devil.

>>15680683

The story, setting and writing in general. I don't play RtwP games for their systems, I'd play proper turn based ones for that. Wouldn't even mind rolling for anal circumference at character creation in a RtwP game.

>>15683765

>>15683511

I know I'm going to sound like an SJW when I ask this, but is there a rule about Paladin's only being white, or is it more a tradition of fantasy?

>>15683813

Paizo is pozzed as fuck. The nigress Pal exist because of "diversity!" Just like the tranny shaman. Kingmakr as a game is alright, I expected it to have more sjw stuff/ Though I would have preferred Crimson Throne.

>>15683813

It's just jarring to see a nigger in quasi-medieval armour. It's like seeing nigger samurai, which is why the jews push it so hard.

>>15680535

>All the kickstarted CRPGs by "big name devs" have turned out to be utter shit. Pillars, Numanuma, Tranny - DO NOT BOTHER.

Not really. They're just not 10/10 GOTY masterpiece backers expected them to be by default. I guess it separates bandwagoners just playing what's popular from actual genre enthusiasts.

>>15683877

I would rather see a female paladin than a nigger one.

>>15683874

>shitposting

>asking a serious question that I know sounds like something a bitch with funny colored hair would ask

>shitposting

I lurk plenty, but tabletop fantasy is not my forte.

>>15683877

Nioh had it though, and as far as I know it was based on an actual person. Whether he was actually black or it was a tall tale to make him seem scary is up for debate.

>>15683859

Who has that one character who I think committed genocide so they can be a tranny?

>>15683877

The funny thing is she became a paladin after stealing the helmet of another. A paladin who steals, a nigger paladin.

>>15683813

Both, faggot. Kill yourself right now. Niggers can never be good people.

>>15683916

Niggers can never be interesting either. They're only half the human a regular person is.

I ended up buying Low Magic Age since I've been looking for some turn-based, party-based open world RPG now that I've gotten somewhat tired of Wizardry 8 and since Grimoire V2 still isn't available. I barely played it but it seems really repetitive but enough to scratch the itch, just directionless roaming around, clearing randomized dungeons, leveling up your guys and collecting loot.

I'm aware of stuff like KotC and the Spiderweb games but I'm hesitant to try them for now. KotC only having 3 races and 3 classes is off-putting and I found Spiderweb's Escape from the Pit really fucking bland. I'll probably give KotC a shot anyway if I end up getting bored of the generic sandbox in Low Magic Age.

>>15683923

How the fuck did a peasant afford full crusader armor?

>>15683923

It's a grim irony considering a lot of Christians in White countries are big supporters of mass immigration, especially if the non-White immigrants convert afterwards.

>>15683918

Now I think you're just baiting, anon.

>>15683923

It's not like I'm heavily invested in Paladin tradition.

>>15683933

If you think I'm baiting, then you should slit your wrists and spend the rest of your short life posting on reddit instead.

>>15683928

The person that drew that had no idea how expensive armor and swords were.

>>15683918

>Do I fit in yet guys?

>>15683940

Do I, though?

>>15683942

Not really.

>>15683944

Damn, usually nobody calls me out. I need to work on my skills.

>>15683769

The writing in all of the kickstarted nuRPGs is shit. /v/ discussed the reasons why to death. You can't complain about Pozzfinder and then turn around and praise Tranny for its writing.

>>15683919

KotC is good if you like Gold Box and ToEE, it's a well designed combat game

Low Magic Age is supposedly getting some sort of campaign in the future, but that might be a ways off

>>15683918

>half

try again. black humans dont exist. they are animals that need to be controlled and contained.

>>15683813

It's not about her being a Paladin. It's about Paizo and every other PNP company pushing niggers down their customers throats for no reason other than to virtue signal. Blacks don't play PnP, there is no reason to have a representation of them in the game. Same deal with trannies.

>>15684122

>Same deal with trannies.

I've been in games with a few trannies actually. Though it bares noting they always just play a character of their preferred gender rather than any sort of bullshit where they actually made their character trans.

Tabletop got invaded hard even back in the late 80s and 90s, I still remember when all the supplements started to make sure to alternate using he and she in order to not make women 'feel alienated' from the hobby. That shit was the epicenter of higher education based liberal bullshit, something about tabletop and fantasy in general attracts that kind of person, probably because hardcore leftist are all about pretending they can create a better world rather than understanding their place in the one they live in.

>>15684154

True, the pozz has been there for a while.

Been playing NVW2 and it's interesting how the class descriptions always use a "she", also how multiracial the npcs are, as in niggers not fantasy races well that too

>>15683765

>>15683511

That's nothing new.

>>15684122

>Same deal with trannies.

I'd bet trannies are actually overrepresentated in PnP similar to vidya

>>15684351

It's not bad, just extremely boring.

>>15684054

Tranny wasn't kikestarted.

>>15684479

Fair enough but it falls into the same category of "We are totally going to give you a CLASSIC CRPG EXPERIENCE" games that turned out to be ass.

>>15678308

In other words, you want Gothic

>>15684628

Why did they stuff this fantasy world full of 21st century feminism?

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>>15683813

>The paladins (from Latin palātīnus, meaning 'servant, government official'), sometimes known as the Twelve Peers, were the foremost warriors of Charlemagne's court, according to the literary cycle known as the Matter of France. They first appear in the early chansons de geste such as The Song of Roland, where they represent Christian valour against the Saracen hordes inside Europe.

>>15684690

the issue i see with this conditioning thing is that the black lead in TFA (i didn't watch TLJ cuz the former sucked) is absolutely bumbling. If anything it's accidentally anti-black because the female lead just drags him around and shit talks him for 2 hours

>>15684098

>implying niggers are even half the animal every animal is

kek

I'm extremely conflicted about Realms Beyond

It's on kikestarter and will probably squeak by just getting its goal. It looks fucking great, like ToEE but with promises of NWN tier toolsets and a heavier focus on writing than ToEE. There's footage of a lot of systems already working so it isn't just paying for the dream of a game, but they fired their lead writer because he was a NatSoc. That same guy still shills the game on RPGcodex, making it even weirder.

I guess I'll pirate it when it releases.

>>15685748

>but they fired their lead writer because he was a NatSoc

That's a shame, it looked neat but if they fire people because of political reasons, that is if he didn't openly call for genocide on twitter under his real name or somesuch like leftist do, then I'm not backing it.

>>15685748

The guy that wants to be a woman and likes blood porn is supposedly NatSoc? Layers of irony have gotten too deep on the internet.

>>15685921

Proofs? Last I heard the only really weird shit about him is that he has a deviantart with footfag shit on it.

>>15685748

>I'm extremely conflicted about Realms Beyond

How is it's system, though? You bring up ToEE but the fact that game had tremendously faithful adaptation of an existing ruleset is something else.

>>15678359

I liked that gameover screen. Got any more?

>>15678245

Action games are an antithesis to roleplaying as the other guy mentioned. As soon as you have full control of your character it's you playing, not the character. CRPGs are about building a story. Some of the story is about how a fight turned out interesting because of something you didn't expect. There is much less chance of that happening if it's a game like Dark Souls where you memorize the enemy attack patterns. It's a different appeal. Also, your request for a game to have super deep and interesting combat and dialogue is 1. extremely labor intensive and 2. might be seen as a schizophrenic game, for market appeal. The deep dialogue will turn off the players who appreciate the deep combat and vice versa. These aren't necessarily mutually exclusive appeals for everyone but the reality seems to be that they are more often than not (people who grew up playing P&P or CRPGs don't necessarily have honed reflexes).

>>15688758

It's going to be their own OGL thing, so basically 3.5 but with homebrew tweaks such as wizard and sorcerer being combined into one.

So me and some buddies are planning on playing NWN2 together. I'm passing around a GOG torrent, but while it downloads I wanted to ask if it has direct connect or if we'll have to use a LAN emulator.

Also, I was planning on starting with the original campaign as apparently it works with multiplayer, is better than the NWN1 campaign, and MOTB is made to be played with a continued character/party. I have no idea if any of these are true so if you could correct any misgivings that would be great.

>>15697481

> I was planning on starting with the original campaign as apparently it works with multiplayer

Do each of you get to create a character? or just play with the companions?

>>15697687

I think everyone creates one. I haven't played NWN2 since like 2012 or some shit but I distinctly recall making an elf sorcerer and a buddy of mine making a half-orc fighter and him passing every persuade check and me failing every one.

>>15697692

But it must be awkard from a campaign perspective, Storm of Zehir is the one created with a full custom party in mind which makes playing solo feel rather lonely, i like the interactions and quests with the companions, now all characterization i have to do inside my head

>>15683746

When she was a baby sheboon, she niggered a paladin's helmet. He got his brains smashed out in a fight right after. She got real sad and became a paladin to try to attone for being a nigger.

>>15683813

The Diablo 2 paladin was black.

>>15683511

>>15683765

Honestly, the paladin iconic isn't even the offensive content. You throw a helmet on her and you'd never even know she was a nigger. I don't know why you would even post the paladin over the shaman who sold out its people in exchange for a hormone therapy lizard that made its penis suck into its body, or the empyreal lord of tranny/genderfluid/homosex orgies.

>>15683874

>Shoehorned shemale cleric delivering monologue for ten minutes about being born in a wrong body for another.

No anon that was the shaman

>>15697695

Well I torrented a gog version and it looks like you need CDKeys. I can't for the life of me remember anything about this, so maybe it isn't as easy as I thought.

>>15678528

>when that red wolves guy starts ranting about the jewish merchants

>>15683765

For all the people bitching about Seelah being a nigger, she's from a nation that's actually based on Moorish Arabia (Katapesh). For being a proper nigger, she'd need to be from Mwangi

>>15700366

That just shows that Paizo are too retarded to even know the difference between Moors and Niggers.

>>15700366

I don't know what the lore is, but it's irrelevant because that just looks like your garden variety hoodrat.

>>15683929

They bought into the meme (pushed by their subverted churches) that Jesus was a pushover cuck, and that being so was the highest of virtues.