d1c747 No.15665145
Holy shit am I bad at puzzles. Like really bad. How do you git gud at working these things out? Do you just get better after getting stumped and finally having to savescum the tips?
282db4 No.15665375
Take your time and leave no doubt in your mind when answering. You'll eventually catch on to how every puzxle has a trick to it.
d1c747 No.15665460
>>15665375
gotcha, so how long should I spend on a puzzle before I give up? I've had more than a few that I've been stumped on for something like 30 minutes, then I finally break down, look up the answer, and realize I would have never come to that conclusion. Still doesn't feel good giving up but I feel like I just haven't adjusted to the sort of thinking needed for these things. .
09380b No.15665582
>>15665145
Another advice that I could give, is that you should think like an 8 year old, in that when you are faced with math questions or code breakers, you need to understand that the games were designed for 8 year olds, so you don't need to think of fancy math or thinking too abstract when faced with puzzles. I remember playing the first one on an emulator on my phone back in the last year of highschool with a friend, both of us smart and A students, and when we were faced with a puzzle such as:
>guess the letter that misses from the combination M T W _ F S S
We were fucking stumped, and tried to think of of obscure solutions of what could it possibly mean. We took the position of the letters in the alphabet to try and figure out a pattern, we tried even with the ASCII values. We tried inserting vowels, thinking that it's a word that is missing it's vowels, so if we can figure out the word, we can figure out what the missing letter is, and then some dumb kid looked at it for 10 seconds and said it's the initials for the days of the week. Though in our defense we aren't from an English speaking country.
cb528f No.15665617
>layton daughter anime
Whoa. Guess I figured out what I'll be watching this week.
d1c747 No.15665624
>>15665582
That pictures a perfect example for what you just described. I actually tried overcomplicating it immediately till I realized you just turn it upiside down.
c7b930 No.15665837
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15665617
it's based on the 7th game in the layton series
it's also the worst layton game ever made (though the tweest still got me)
the best part of said game was the (japanese) voice acting, specifically Katori/Katrielle, she really sounded like a cute female layton (embed related)
then they changed her to some super popular seiyuu for the anime, pisses me off
>>15665460
you are using hint coins, right? in theory you should be able to figure everything out if you use them properly
Curious village is the hardest one IMO, you aren't as accustomed to the Layton style and neither are the devs, everyone involved is a little uncomfortable and I think that's the main reason it tends to be so tough
d1c747 No.15667547
>>15665837
>then they changed her to some super popular seiyuu for the anime
I’m surprised they would do that. Usually changing voice actors is sacrilege in nip land.
And yeah, I’ve been using the coins. There were still several puzzles that left me completely stumped, though others required some pixel perfect placement of a match or the answer was very subjective (such as the silhouette puzzle). The atmosphere, OST, and story are really great so far so I’ll push through it having the “first game” syndrome.
d1c747 No.15668437
>>15665582
I think I'm starting to get it. You visualize, simplify logically, and read the puzzle carefully and the answer is usually looking at you right in the face. I'm starting to get the puzzles now with one hint or less.
c5a0ca No.15668504
>>15668437
Since the wood in the fireplace doesn't seem to be noted I say the lantern as you can light more things with it afterwards. The police should let go D, so 1.
d1c747 No.15668520
>>15668504
got the second one right, got the first one wrong but I did the same thing on my first try
ddba32 No.15668525
>>15668437
First one is the match because the puzzle masters for Layton need a good beating.
May they rest in peace
f265f4 No.15668541
>>15668437
I pour oil from the lamp into the water filled bathtub and set that on fire. the water is warm, im warm and the light is there
d1c747 No.15668547
>>15668525
you got it. So far when it comes to wanting to beat the puzzle designers this puzzle got me the most ate up.
>>15668541
you get points for thinking outside the box
997be8 No.15668549
>>15668437
E is clearly lying, because if she was indeed telling the truth, and all of them would be lying, then she wouldn't be a liar which creates a paradox. This means that there must be at least 1 liar
By a similar logic, A cannot be saying the truth, because all of the four statemets contradict themselves, so that means that there must be more than one liar.
If all of the statements contradict themselves that means that only one of them is true, and knowing that E cannot be true, we can logically conclude that there are four liars in the room.
D is telling the truth.
997be8 No.15668558
>>15668549
Knights and knaves types of puzzle are really fucking fun.
28c5cd No.15668559
>>15668437
There isn't an actual matchbox in the picture. So how do I light the match? With my ass?
997be8 No.15668565
>>15668547
Three, because the puzzle is asking about the number of candles and not the number of flames.
f265f4 No.15668567
d1c747 No.15668577
>>15668565
you got the right answer but the conclusion is a bit different.
this is kind of fun. We should have Layton threads more often.
c92aec No.15668626
>>15668437
All five are saying mutually exclusive statements, so one would be the obvious answer. If they were talking in response to each other ("one of us is lying because only one of us has spoken so far") then it would be a proper layton puzzle.
Alternatively, the police *shouldn't* release any suspect because they *want* to.
d1c747 No.15668637
a bit of a gripe I have is that sometimes the puzzles use logic, other times they throw it to the wind. For instance, in this puzzle the answer should be 0 on account of you just buying 1 mouse.
ddba32 No.15668649
>>15668637
>bought 1 mouse
>mouse isn't reproducing at all during those 10 months
>by the end of the 10 months you still have one mouse
>the answer should be 0
I don't follow your reasoning.
d1c747 No.15668651
3c6425 No.15668655
>>15668637
The answer should be 1 because you still have one mouse.
d1c747 No.15668656
>>15668651
>>15668649
the worst part is I said it in my damn post. Sometimes these things really bring out how much of a dummy you can be.
2097e0 No.15668663
>>15668651
You might be right tho, if I had a pink mouse looking at me like this,10 months from now it would be dead from my cock ripping its inside
cb5f38 No.15668724
2097e0 No.15668734
>>15668577
This is bullshit, I was thinking you'd still have 10 candles, but they don't define how long is "later": it can be 15 minutes like it can be 8 hours, you can't know this from the text
229051 No.15668771
>>15665837
>it's also the worst layton game ever made (though the tweest still got me)
Can you spoil it for me? I really stopped caring about Layton past the Phoenix Wright crossover because Level 5 sucks as a company.
d1c747 No.15668793
>>15668734
My cousin got mad for the exact same reason when I shared it with him.
09380b No.15668824
>>15668637
For all I know the mouse could have been pregnant when I bought it, but since this is Layton they don't expect you do pow(12,10) on a computer and input the answer, so of course it's a "gotcha" and the answer is 1.
d1c747 No.15669778
>>15668824
>the mouse could have been pregnant when I bought it
It actually addresses that. The mouse can't get pregnant until two months after it's born and you take it home a day after it's born.
b22631 No.15669834
c5a0ca No.15669840
>>15669778
13. One person needs to row it back.
b22631 No.15669842
>>15669834
wait nevermind I forgot you need somebody to row the boat back
its 13
d1c747 No.15669845
>>15669834
Nope, my first guess as well.
try to visualize and think about this in a very realistic manner.
d1c747 No.15669854
>>15669840
>>15669842
You niggers sure are faster than I was with these things. Hopefully I’ll get there at some point.
9b873e No.15669934
>>15665624
Namely because the Western education system is so bizarre and stupidly over complicated to the point that people assume the whole world works like some topsy turvy mad logicless world with no simple answer to anything.
cca85c No.15669990
>>15668437
You say the answer is D, but that is impossible. If four of them lie, then saying one of them lies is not a lie. It's just not the full answer. If you have a box of 5 cakes, then saying there is one cake in the box is correct. There is. There's just four more cakes as well.
d1c747 No.15671105
this one was a little silly
ea7c50 No.15671114
>>15671105
I thought there was some tricky solution to this one like the usual's but it was surprisingly straight forward and not really that special.
87733d No.15671124
>>15671105
All but the last one
Whats the dumb reveal
d1c747 No.15671133
>>15671114
I thought it was kind of dumb to assume he would just take one right away and not label that one or the last. I figured the answer was to label each for a day of the week then just start over when he got to the last two.
38b169 No.15671134
>>15671105
This is an initial guess, but 8? He's taking one today, so there would be 9 tomorrow, and if eight are labeled, he would know to take the unlabeled one tomorrow. I never really liked many Layton puzzles because I like doing strange calculations when really it was a simple deduction of logic or a little gotcha that is incredibly easy to overlook.
d1c747 No.15671143
>>15671124
You more or less got it.
87733d No.15671156
>>15669778
How are you niggers getting 13? Its 9
>load 5 up
>travel to island (9m)
>remove 4 (total 4)
>travel back (18m)
>load 4 up
>boat is sunk on your way back
>remove 5 (total 9)
3fd10e No.15671168
>>15669990
Hmm, lost in translation perhaps?
38b169 No.15671217
>>15671156
The round-trip is 9 minutes, not just a single stretch from the ship to the island.
5 people go to the island from the ship
1 person rows back to the ship, 9 minutes have elapsed, 4 are on the island.
5 people go to the island from the ship
1 person rows back to the ship, 18 minutes have elapsed, 8 are on the island.
5 people go to the island from the ship, now 20+ minutes have elapsed, there cannot be anymore trips to the ship. The grand total is 13 people (4+4+5)
a4e0b9 No.15672375
>>15668734
Don't use quotation marks if you're not quoting. It doesn't say later. It says "in the end".
9ab66c No.15672982
>>15668771
The game is episodic like Layton 6, and that again was a real weakness to it. The title talks about "the millionaire's conspiracy" which is the last case in the game, but it's only like the last 8% of the game or so, and everything else is this bullshit about finding lost cats and that sort of thing, without any real motivation to do so like in the other games.
So now, for the BIG spoilers,
her servant-companion beta-orbiter almost-romantic-interest is the villain
his last name GREEVES hints at the fact he's this vengeful orphan kid
yes that's pretty much the only hint you get
It was complete bullshit, way more than regular layton games, but at least that one part still felt like a layton game
2f8e42 No.15673015
>>15672982
I pirated a 3DS copy of that game and I was unimpressed to say the least. I can't remember much since it was a while ago, but all I can say is that the puzzles were lackluster and hard for the wrong reasons. At least Ms. Layton was super cute and you could dress her up in different stuff. I also liked the setting. I stopped playing during the investigation into the missing cat. Should I even bother going back?
d1c747 No.15673323
anyone mind walking me through this one? I just don't see how you get $95 as the answer.
6f8ca8 No.15673339
58e6e2 No.15673358
>>15673323
The camera costs $300 more than the case, which means that the case would cost $5 and the camera $305.
d1c747 No.15673370
>>15673358
but why would the case be 5 and not 10? If the camera was 300 more than the case wouldn't the case just be 10?
70c639 No.15673388
>>15673323
>>15673370
Simple math.
camera + case = 310
camera = case + 300
substitute "camera" into top equation:
case + 300 + case = 310
case + case = 10
2 * case = 10
case = 5
58e6e2 No.15673390
>>15673370
If the case was $10, then the camera would cost $310, which means that that purchasing both items would cost $320, so we know that's the incorrect answer.
d1c747 No.15673419
>>15673388
>>15673390
aaaah, I get it. I forgot to count the case+case. That's some subtle stuff. Thanks for writing it out for me. Even with the hints and explanations I still couldn't understand how they came to that conclusion.
71e9e0 No.15676349
>>15669778
All of them, they all see dry land.
<oy vey, you expected to reach dry land too?
<greedy goy!
d1c747 No.15677440
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>tfw talking to my cousin about how fun the puzzles in these games can be
>he knows a few
>tells em to me
>I'm able to reason them both out in a couple of minutes with no hints
I feel it. I'm starting to know… things.
d1c747 No.15677462
also, here's kind of a dumb but fun one that I liked
d35757 No.15677492
78c1e1 No.15686855
Which games are considered the best and worst?
d8604f No.15686891
>>15669990
Also the fact that "all of us are liars" can still be true even if one or more of them are not currently lying.
d1c747 No.15691360
this one might make you feel dumb by the end
d1c747 No.15691422
2b55fe No.15691441
>>15691422
Is it zero since he can just walk forward to the end, sideways to the right, backwards, and so on before walking backwards out of the last room?
d1c747 No.15691451
>>15691441
nope
>>15691446
you've got the right idea, but still less
586a87 No.15691459
>>15691360
>>15691451
Now I understand. It's 2!
d1c747 No.15697544
do the puzzles get better in the later games? I’ve looked around and people say the puzzles in the first game are particularly bad and nonsensical and I’m starting to see that a bit more in the later part of the game.
c92aec No.15697657
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>>15691482
>>15691360
Better solution. Once.