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They are nerfed, they're either all special items, or so fucking rare to find you need to restart 5000000 times to get them.

Nah, there's an Undertale thread on the catalogue! Let's move this thread down and bump that one ALL THE WAY UP XD!!

>cucking of cuckssac

Shut the fuck up Edmund.

Getting overpowered crap in TBoI is like drinking buggy potions in Morrowind: Hilarious.

And unlike the buggy potions, you are fully intended to get a stupidly overpowered combo once in a while, as opposed to the usual shower of garbage like the Turd or the Bomb Belt.

>>15658118

Hey remember when they nerfed the only direct combination kamikazi had with pyro?

>>15658123

Oh wait, I forgot Pyro and Pyromaniac are two different items.

Rogue likes are supposed to have variable difficulties depending on what items you find. This includes combos which allow you to win really easily and combos that make it near impossible. The casual players get rewarded with a powerful combo once in a while and do well. The hardcore plays feel challenged by a bad combo once in a while and feel rewarded. You can always restart if you don't like what you have.

>>15658064

>Isaac would be 10 times better if you nerfed all the broken OP items.

Yeah, that's why afterbirth and afterbirth+ are such magnificient pieces of work that modified the game to perfection.

If you don't want an OP item, don't take it, the game doesn't force you to do so.

Balancefags like you are anti-fun cancer.

>>15658145

I hope the next expansion that's based on antibirth actually makes some runs fun again.

Has anyone played Our Darker Purpose?

I liked that it didn't have a fuckton of filler items like Isaac did, and was overall harder

>>15658123

They did? why?

>>15658195

You know why antibirth was fun?

Because Nicalis wasn't involved in balancing, and was standalone from other "updates".

Do you know why afterbirth and + shit the bed, content and balance wise?

Because Nicalis was more involved in the game design.

Do you know why nuAntibirth will suck?

Because Nicalis will be, yet again, involved.

And because it will need afterbirth and +, dragging all of its horrendous "additions" to the game.

So if you expect anything resembling "fun", expect hush 2: electric bogaloo and other "fun" mechanics like the random-enemies-portal.

>>15658280

Because fuck you that's why. They didn't even revert it after adding Host Hat a more common version of pyromaniac that doesn't have the heal on explosion bonus

>>15658516

I actually liked the hush fight, there should have been more bullet hell type of bosses

>>15658090

This. Peak fun in BoI (or any similar game) is when you hit upon a combo of items/powerups that has such great synergy that it makes you stupidly OP, and it's made even more fun by contrast with the shit runs. That randomness is a core game mechanic.

>>15658064

Afterbirth killed the game for me. The amount of retarded decisions with enemies, bosses, items, and room layouts absolutely sucked. I haven't really touched the game since. Do the new bosses still have the retarded health based on damage? Can anyone tell me if it's worth playing again or should I wait for the next pack to fuck things up even further?

>>15661312

Delirium despite being a retardedly designed boss, does not have damage scaling actually.

>>15661326

then again, afterbirth+ adds a fuckload of even more retarded design decisions to the game

>>15658090

>filter

jesus christ how horrifying

But yes, getting OP synergies in TBOI is what's fun. Getting unlucky with items and becoming some slow fat fuck with shit damage is what's not fun. In fact I would redesign the game to avoid repetitive boring normal tear runs and make it more about effects and synergies, there's too many straightforward upgrade items with no effects.

I haven't tried Afterbirth+ but since they expect you to buy the second DLC when I already bought the original TBOI + expansion and TBOIR+Afterbirth, they can rightly go fuck themselves. It looks like padded shit anyway.

Isn't that the secret fun part? Breaking the game's spine by combining mom's knife and brimstone.

>>15661217

Ah, yes, except for the retarded "enemies get more resistance if you deal a lot of damage" that >>15661312 said. Same shit with ultra greed.

I mentioned Hush because at first they promised us a new branch/scenario, and ended up with just a boss fight.

Even on the (((steam))) page it says:

"Expanded main game - a new final area with a new final boss".

If by "new area" they mean a room with two adjacent treasure rooms and a shop.

Also "final boss" is also wrong, because you can continue playing, it's a mid/optional boss at most.

>Isaac would be 10 times better if you nerfed all the broken OP items.

<I'll take shit people never say for 400

>>15661217

Oh my god like three bullet rings a \/ and a screen wrapping shot, how bullet hell.

>Hey, I have a brilliant idea on how to make our game better!

<Oh? What is it?

>You know that "fun" thing we have in it?

<Yes? And?

>Take it out.

>>15664746

Nigger what you could do is maybe ask for harder patterns, Shit like ultra greed/ier delirum and hush are only really hard because the game makes an attempt at trapping you in the room with them for an extended period of time, not because they're actually hard bosses to fight.Shit the closest thing to "hard" these bosses offer is spamming exploding projectiles. With fucked up hitboxes.