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>inb4 shitposting about tank controls

>Silent Hill on the other hand … used the fixed angles to great affect by putting the perspective unconventional (and uncomfortable) situations.

Resident evil did this to.

Video related, at least once you get past the memes which are pretty funny actually.

>>15654341

Tank controls are only shit with a fixed camera. They were fine in RE4, and fine for most of SH and SH2.

>>15654373

>Tank controls are only shit with a fixed camera

git gud faggot

>>15654341

you can tell how much of a nigger someone is by how much difficultly they have with tank controls

>>15654373

Try playing the REmake with the "modern controls" option enabled or try playing DMC1, and then try saying this again

>>15654405

From what I remember SH was mostly a camera floating behind the player, and the ONLY used fixed camera for scenes that where intense like what you where talking about. RE was fixed camera all the way, so there was a lot of mundane hallways and crap mixed in with the moldy as fuck basement and labs.

>>15654378

Right, and as you can see, we should laugh at said nigger: >>15654373

You know what would be awesome? A survival horror game with a fixed camera angle and tank controls where you play as somebody with a physical disadvantage like..

>a fat truck driver who just got amputated in the initial chaos.

>gets winded easily from running and sprinting

>reloading takes much longer for him than somebody with both arms.

>needs to apply fresh dressing to his wound where he lost his arm.

>Some of his problems can be mitigated by finding an artificial arm.

>a weak, skinny woman working as a stripper.

>lots of exposed flesh that leaves her especially vulnerable to zombie bites and acid projectiles.

>had to kick off her high heels so she's running around barefoot and needs to avoid glass

>can't handle the recoil on shotguns so using it too often can leave an acute contusion on her shoulder.

>This can be mitigated by finding clothes, shoes, and shells with reduced loads.

Would Eternal Darkness fit in with the fixed camera perspective or is it some sort of hybrid type camera where it follows you slightly and swings around corners when you move behind them?

>>15654367

That was actually pretty good, thanks anon.

>>15654403

The alternate controls in REmake are fantastic, and feel so much better for Real Survival runs.

inb4 thread gets shoah'd for wrongthink

>>15654590

It may feel better to use more modern control schemes that give the play full control, but it diminishes the horror aspect of a game unless it somehow introduces other handicaps. Ammo limitation is rarely sufficient to retain the spooky scenario when a good player can kill everything with his knife or just swiftly avoid enemies.

>>15654608

>It may feel better to use more modern control schemes that give the play full control, but it diminishes the horror aspect of a game unless it somehow introduces other handicaps

That's the mindset that causes people to think that Survival Horror is just Action Horror with clunky gameplay. Dead Space 1 was far more effective at horror than any RE title to date, and it has excellent controls.

>Ammo limitation is rarely sufficient to retain the spooky scenario when a good player can kill everything with his knife or just swiftly avoid enemies

The goal has always been to juke as many enemies as possible and only using resources on mandatory fights, or high risk situations where juking isn't worth the risk. Better controls merely make it feel less terrible, and that's a good thing. RE4 doesn't fall apart difficulty-wise (even on professional) because it has better controls, it falls apart because of how insanely powerful the counter attacks are.

>>15654725

>penumbra

My problem with the first one is that you could just climb on a barrel or box and brain the dogs with the hammer. For Black Plague, and this extends to both Amnesia games and Outlast as well, is that the optimal course of action is to just sprint from A to B for nearly the entire game, except for the handful of times where you're forced into playing hide and seek, and none of that is particularly scary.

>try to recreate the traditional horror scene while allowing the player to be a badass

I agree, but I think the best way of doing it is allow the player to effectively fight back, but then heavily limit the resources to discourage the player from doing so unless absolutely required, rather than handicapping the player with things like shit controls.

>>15654659

>Dead Space 1 was far more effective at horror than any RE title to date, and it has excellent controls.

I don't get the constant dead space shilling here. The game was so bad, and all the jumps cares where predictable as fuck. The only time the game was tense at all was in Dead Space 2, when you revisit the ship from 1 and it's just pure atmosphere. I remember I was laughing my ass off in the first 30-40 minutes because of how hard it was trying to be scary and how the boot stomp made bodies fucking explode.

>>15654808

Play on Impossible, it's top-tier survival horror.

>I remember I was laughing my ass off in the first 30-40 minutes because of how hard it was trying to be scary and how the boot stomp made bodies fucking explode.

I felt the same way as a kid playing RE2 and realizing that my path was routinely being blocked by waist-high barriers.

>>15654530

Outbreak had a similar scenario, you could play as an old vietnam veteran who moved very slowly but had a considerable strenght or you could play as a jap girl who couldn't shoot well, did shit damage and was sloppy with melee weapons, suffered severe damage from enemy attacks but had a student backpack so she could carry more itens than any character.

>>15654808

>>15654863

You didn't feel tense when you were thrown in the locked room with twitchers? Nor the big guy when it's just you, him, and a tight space where you have to turn around moving crates to get through? If you're at critical health he can instantly kill you from behind.

>play sonic adventure 1

>the camera when it plays well is actually fine, which is most of the time.

>but the moment you change camera type from auto camera to free camera you try to control the camera you start to notice it's inverted, it sucks and you can't manipulate in a way you want it to

i prefer a fixed camera with small amount of control for console games

>>15654403

DMC1 is fine still a great game to play.

gitgud faggot.

>>15654403

DMC1 rarely changes camera angles mid-fight (especially during boss fights) and the directional controls don't switch over for a full second after a camera transition so that you can orient yourself. Neither of those are true of the alternate REmake controls or the controls for Silent Hill 4, Origins, or most games that run with that control scheme as far as I'm aware. No reason to drag that game into this.

>>15654946

I'm playing it right now and what gets me the most is the power loss fake outs and the fake ambushes where a necro will smash a vent but nothing comes out. Leaves me paranoid until I work up the courage to move on to the next room hoping nothing is there when I come back. That and the fucking workbench scare I wasn't expecting. Whoever thought that of that one is an asshole.