576916 No.15652617
>Battle Arena Toshinden
>Cool Boarders 2
>Destruction Derby
>Final Fantasy VII
>Grand Theft Auto
>Intelligent Qube
>Jumping Flash!
>Metal Gear Solid
>Mr. Driller
>Oddworld: Abe’s Oddysee
>Rayman
>Resident Evil™ Director’s Cut
>Revelations: Persona
>Ridge Racer Type 4
>Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo
>Syphon Filter
>Tekken 3
>Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six
>Twisted Metal
>Wild Arms
318d75 No.15652624
ae188a No.15652627
Underwhelming as fuck to be honest.
Sony really is jack shit without third parties and purchased exclusives, huh.
5875ec No.15652658
JP lineup is definitely better in comparison
>https://www.jp.playstation.com/blog/detail/7787/20181029-psclassic-1.html
>Arc the Lad I
>Arc The Lad II
>ARMORED CORE
>R4 RIDGE RACER TYPE 4
>IQ Intelligent Qube
>GRADIUS Gaiden
>XI [sai]
>Saga Frontier
>G Darius
>Jumping Flash!
>Super Puzzle Fighter II Turbo
>Tekken 3
>Toushiden
>Biohazard Director's Cut
>Parasite Eve
>Final Fantasy 7
>Shin Megami Tensei Persona
>METAL GEAR SOLID
>Wild Arms
Still not worth jack shit however when you could just use a hacked PSP or Vita for PS1 games on the go, or simply emulate on PC
81eac8 No.15652662
>>15652617
>never heard of it
>sportsshit
>never heard of it
>gay babby weeb shit but at least somebody likes it/wants to play it
>makes sense
>prettygoodgame tbh
>never heard of it
>makes perfect sense
>literally who
>makes perfect sense
>why.jpg
>makes perfect sense, game's kino
>more weeb trash
>okay I guess
>literally who
>not what I would have picked but fair
>okay
>why.jpg
>makes perfect sense
>weebshit
This will wind up being for nobody. Until they figure out how to mod it.
a70891 No.15652664
>Cool Borders 2
Immigration simulator?
d9438b No.15652672
Kind of mediocre.
>games that have better versions on PC these days
>no sequels to RE, FF7, Oddworld, GTA
>it's THAT version of RE
>probably THAT version of Persona too
95f2cb No.15652673
>>15652658
Does Japan really like Arc the Lad or something?
2b9009 No.15652692
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>No Tomb Raider
>No Tony Hawk
>No Crash
>No Spyro
>No Jet Moto
>No Warhawk
>No Colony Wars
>No Ace Combat
>No Fighting Force
>No King's Field
>No Tecmo's Deception
>No Klonoa
>No Parappa/No Lammy
>No Parasite Eve
>No Legend of Dragoon
>No Wipeout
>No Tail Concerto
>No tons of other games which more deserve to be on the list
>No Analog Sticks
Why the fuck would I want this again, when my PSX still works and if I wanted a mini-console with HDMI I could just mod a PSOne.
f750b8 No.15652693
I was about to ask why the fuck they didn't put in the dualshock version of RE in but then remembered that this piece of shit doesn't come with dualshock controllers.
017cd8 No.15652715
>>15652617
>Rainbow 6
If they're just going to dump PC ports on this one, might as well include Doom, Crusader: No Remorse and Command and Conquer. There's also a weird absence of a Legacy of Kain game. Either LoK game would be nice.
ae188a No.15652737
>>15652692
To add to the list of glaring oversights
>No Tenchu
>No Worms
>No Alundra
>No Vigilante 8
>No Suikoden
>No Soul Blade/Edge
>No Dino Crisis
>No Tobal
>No Front Mission
>No Silent Hill
>No Vagrant Story
>No Xenogears
>No Castlevania
>No Star Ocean
>No Gran Turismo
>No Exhumed/Powerslave
c7f233 No.15652757
This is it? You could buy the actual hardware and the MAYBE half of those games worth playing for much less than this overpriced piece of actual garbage.
d9438b No.15652770
So, realistically, how many games could Sony fit on this thing, if they were actually trying, accounting for storage space, and time taken to bug test everything? 50?
7a556b No.15652772
Reminder (You) can pirate a Vita TV with a full list of ps1/psp/psv games and it even works with a dualshock3/4
1474a5 No.15652787
>>15652617
>No Vagrant Story *
>No Bloody Roar 1 & 2 *
>No Parasite Eve
>No Air Combat *
>No Ace Combat 2 *
>No Ace Combat 3 - Electosphere (JP) *
>No Alundra*
>None of the Darkstalkers games*
>No PSX Doom or Final Doom*
>No King's Field games or Shadow Tower*
>No Valkyrie Profile*
*All of which allow for the classic PSX controller without the need for DualShock controllers
I'll give them props for Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six and Persona, but most of that lineup is either shit or have better ports on other systems. Honestly, there's no reason to buy this shit when 1) PSX emulation is perfect on the PSP or even on PC and it's cheap as hell since PSX ISOs are all over the place 2) They didn't even include the best (exclusive or not) games the system had and just put random shit like the Intelligent Qube and Jumping Jack instead of games people actually played. GG Soyny, you had one job.
10e33c No.15652791
>>15652692
>>15652737
>no harvest moon
>no armored core
ae188a No.15652798
>>15652770
A PSX disc is a regular CD (with some slightly wonky outer rings for copyright protection) so it can hold 650MB.
On a 32GB SD card, assuming the emulator and whatnot took up 1GB (highly unlikely), you could fit 47 discs, assuming each disc was crammed full (most weren't) and assuming no compression technology was used.
That's on a 32GB SD card. It's totally possible that with 64GB they could fit 100+ games on the thing.
95f2cb No.15652799
>>15652770
The average PS1 game is ~500ish MB and you can get a 32gig flash drive for like 10 bucks so that's 64 games right there for like a tenth of the price.
d9438b No.15652814
>>15652798
>>15652799
I guess you'd be set back a few when dealing with multi-disc games like FF or MGS, but basically we could easily have double the number we're seeing here, then.
1474a5 No.15652821
>>15652797
You shills should try and fit in instead of sticking out like a sore thumb
25388a No.15652824
>>15652770
They'll put 16GB storage in the thing to save a few cents so the 20 games and the OS can just fit.
Only retards would expect any effort or nice things from Sony in CY+3
576916 No.15652830
>>15652658
Oy vey goy, don't you know you can't buy that grey box and the nostalgia, unless it's from us for $99.99?
>>15652692
>>15652737
I assume it's either licence issue or Sony being greedy and getting all the easy shit, on the basis that it will sell anyway (because it worked for Nintendo).
>>15652798
>>15652799
Buying in bulk is cheaper. I'm pretty sure that if they really cared, they could've spent under $30 for 128 GB cards and stick 182 full size CDs, if they cared to. That juan hundert dolla price would still be a significant part mark up.
ae188a No.15652831
>>15652814
Looking at the ROMs I have on hand, most of them are around the 300MB~400MB mark. One is as low as 65MB (a SHMUP) but Legend of Dragoon is over 1GB.
Multi-disc games wouldn't be a problem considering every three games leaves about enough spare room for a whole extra disc from unused space.
d0e97d No.15652858
>>15652617
>>Metal Gear Solid
<Superior version of the GC
>>Oddworld: Abe’s Oddysee
<Remake on modern consoles
>>Rayman
<Superior version on the DS
>>Resident Evil™ Director’s Cut
<Superior version on the Saturn and DS
>>Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six
<Superior version on the Dreamcast
Didn't count the PC versions, only the console versions.
This is also leaving out that every single game is already available on PSN, and that you can acquire a PSP or a Vita TV for $50.
db600d No.15652861
I'm good, my modded playstation still works and I have emulation.
10e33c No.15652874
>>15652858
>Oddworld remake is superior
>DS version of rayman/RE is better than original
wew
gonna have to take your whole opinion and toss it in the trash m8. sorry.
35087d No.15652875
Cancelled. It won't even be good as an emu machine with the shit first-gen controllers.
d9438b No.15652880
>>15652858
That's some shrewd b8, m8.
fa7ee1 No.15652886
It's not even that good for modding considering the shit gamepads with no joysticks. What a fucking mistake all around.
d9438b No.15652888
>>15652868
I honestly like Twin Snakes quite a lot. It's not the definitive edition of MGS though. Think of it as a slightly brokem MGS level pack for MGS2.
bba5e8 No.15652896
>>15652658
>Shin Megami Tensei Persona
>JP gets the regular game with SQQ and a non Blacked character while westerners get the shitty port
For this to be worth it they needed to have at least double the amount of games, this is not enough of the library to be worth it.
>>15652673
They do, actually.
5875ec No.15652897
>>15652814
Tokimeki Memorial 2 and Riven are the sole PS1 games that are above 2GB, the Final Fantasy games (7, 8 and 9) are between 1.5-1.8GB, and everything else hardly go above 1GB (mostly around 200MB-600MB)
>>15652830
I'm willing to bet those PS1 mini classics are just slightly altered PSTV boards inside a new shell
>>15652858
The Rayman in the NA lineup is the first Rayman, not Rayman 2. And Rayman DS was crap.
>Oddworld remake is better
wew m8
1474a5 No.15652898
>>15652787
Also forgot,
>No Ehrgeiz:God Bless the Ring*
>>15652841
Like I give a shit about a launching title. I'm not even concerned with that game. Why can't they put more games that are at least more recognizable on the damn thing? I mean, that's what the Nintendjews did when they sold the NES and SNES mini: They sold the classic games that are associated system. A lot of Sony's listed games for the shitbox seem random instead of actual games that sold well or associated with the system's launch.
1474a5 No.15652900
>>15652898
*associated with the game system
d9438b No.15652901
>>15652890
It's fun to dick around in Shadow Moses with MGS2 mechanics. It's not a replacement for MGS1, but I have fun with it.
d0e97d No.15652913
>>15652874
>>15652897
>And Rayman DS was crap.
There are two different Rayman games on the DS. First, there's the port of Rayman 2 called Rayman DS. I am not talking about that. What I am talking about is the port of the original Rayman game that Ubisoft released on DSiWare that has all the levels from ever previous version and all of the correct music.
>>Oddworld remake is better
Honestly, didn't know about that, so go ahead and bully me on that regard.
46464c No.15652914
Is there anyway that version of Persona is not going to be the one with the race changed characters?
35087d No.15652926
>>15652901
The gameplay, while broken, can be fun. The John Woo-ization of the cut scenes is abominable.
d9438b No.15652933
>>15652926
abominable, but hilarious.
1474a5 No.15652945
>>15652908
Stop strawmanning. Why can't Sony actually put games that are recognizable with the PSX on the PSX classic? That's really the only draw of the damn thing since you can get a better emulator with a PSP or a PC made in the last decade and you can store more games on those systems? Why can't Sony put games people easily recognize with the PS1, like Legend of the Dragoon, Darkstalkers,SOTN, the Ace Combat games 1-3, King's Field, Parasite Eve (and also analog sticks along with it), Crash,Spyro,Tomb Raider, Wipeout and Parappa the Rappa. Plus, it has the shit version of RE1 and none of the sequels. Most of these games seem like an afterthought compared to those games, since they were the ones that moved PSXs, not Jumping Flash. And again, a lot of these games have better PC versions now. So objectively, what's the point of buying this shit? The SNES and NES mini were able to hide their shittiness due to their blatant nostalgia baiting. The PSX mini doesn't have any of that going for it, based on the games they're putting on it.
5875ec No.15652954
>>15652913
Never owned a DSi, only a DS Lite instead, so I never knew they re-released the first Rayman on it.
>Honestly, didn't know about that, so go ahead and bully me on that regard.
It's mostly that the remake has really bright colors (in contrast to the darker color scheme from the original) and the controls were reported to be different. Also irl ads in-game if i recall right.
d0e97d No.15652967
>>15652945
>Why can't Sony actually put games that are recognizable with the PSX on the PSX classic?
Money required to license those games.
>That's really the only draw of the damn thing since you can get a better emulator with a PSP or a PC made in the last decade and you can store more games on those systems?
But, you don't get the plastic happy meal toy, and "gamer cred".
>Why can't Sony put games people easily recognize with the PS1, like Legend of the Dragoon
Legend of what?
>Darkstalkers
Capcom
>SOTN
Konami
>the Ace Combat games 1-3
Bamco
>King's Field
Japan exclusive
>Parasite Eve (and also analog sticks along with it)
SquarEnix
Crash,Spyro
Activision
>Tomb Raider
SquarEnix
>Wipeout and Parappa the Rappa
Buy the remakes goy.
>Plus, it has the shit version of RE1 and none of the sequels.
From what I heard, the only "shit" version of the original RE was the "Dualshock Ver." (Pic related).
36e991 No.15652970
>No Ape Escape.
>No Street Fighter Alpha games.
>No Gran Turismo.
>No Klonoa.
>No Doom.
Its fucking trash Anons.
d9438b No.15652982
>>15652967
What's really baffling is that games Sony actually owns like Ape Escape are absent.
69620c No.15652983
>>15652617
>>15652658
Is it Director's Cut or Director's Cut Dual Shock? The difference is massive (the music specifically).
a53d0d No.15652987
>>15652967
On Parasite Eve, Squeenix literally can't re-release it, their license expired and the Turd Birthday pissed the author so much, you will never see this franchise back again.
36e991 No.15652990
>>15652982
Catching animals in nets is against their new SoCal mentality.
95f2cb No.15652991
>>15652982
It doesn't have dualshock.
d0e97d No.15652992
>>15652982
Ape Escape requires a dual analog controller. They tried meeting half-way on the PSP with the remake, On the Loose, and it was just a pain-in-the-ass to control and made the game more frustrating than it ever should have.
d0e97d No.15652995
>>15652992
>remake
Meant remaster!
69620c No.15652998
>>15652983
I'll answer my own question: Based on what I'm seeing on the official site it's probably just the Director's Cut version so those of you saying it's the version with shitty music don't know your Resident Evil history as much as you think you do.
1474a5 No.15653003
>>15652987
I honestly side with the author on that one. You know that Square Enix also (((forgot))) to pay him his proper royalties for Parasite Eve and Parasite Eve 2, even though the first one was a runaway hit and the second one sold decently well? That's why he never let them touch the Parasite Eve license ever again.
2b9009 No.15653007
>>15652991
>It doesn't have dualshock.
So rephrase the statement. What's really baffling is that Sony released the PSX mini without dual-shock controllers.
69620c No.15653013
>>15653007
Even weirder given they're putting MGS on the system. Will the controllers even have rumble for people to experience Psyho Mantis properly?
ae8aed No.15653014
I'm guessing with one remake still fresh and another on the way, Activision didn't want to contribute with Crash and Spyro?
ea8347 No.15653015
>>15653013
Or Naomi giving you a shoulder massage?
d0e97d No.15653018
>>15653007
>What's really baffling is that Sony released the PSX mini without dual-shock controllers.
Have you ever seen the amount of thrift stores that have used PS1 controllers? I wouldn't be surprised if Sony saved money buy just rounding up as many of those things as they could, rewired them to with with USB, and sold them back to the public.
95f2cb No.15653174
>>15653007
That's not baffling at all. They're going to make another one with it added next year I guarantee it, or rather they would if this one wasn't going to inevitably fail and convince Sony even more that anything other than cinematic walking simulators is a lost cause.
35087d No.15653176
>>15653013
No, and they won't have any of the save files from other Konami games for that section either, making it completely pointless.
4bd0e0 No.15653214
>>15652874
Deadly silence is a pretty good port of RE.
b266cb No.15653215
I bougth a modded snes mini with a shitton of games in it, and I'll probably do the same with this. This is for now, the list of what I'm putting in:
Silent Bomber
Soul Reaver
Tombi 2
Megaman Legends 2
Driver 2
Resident Evil 3
Resident Evil Survivor
Metal Gear Solid
Silent Hill
Crash Team Racing
Tenchu 2
Quake 2
Duke Nukem World of Babes
R-Type Delta
G-Police 2
Dino Crisis 2
Syphon Filter 3
Medal of Honor
Tekken 3
Castlevania Simphony of the Night
Gunnm Martian Memory
ad90d9 No.15653217
>>15652992
That is why they should have have old school duelshock controllers. Not having Gran Turismo on this thing is a fucking crime against humanity. Can you imagine the SNES min not having Mario World? GT at the time was Sony's big flagship game and you can bet your ass Soyny will learn from Nintendo's "mistake" and make sure its hack proof (or at least try). It gets worse the JP version will have Arc the Lad games and Parasite Eve while the west gets fucked over with crap like Cool Borders 2.
I would have seriously considered getting one if we got the same games as the Japanese version but as it stands in the west its fucking trash.
ad90d9 No.15653225
>>15653217
Excuse my shitty english guys I don't speak it.
fa7ee1 No.15653232
>>15653215
Certainly hope you didn't pay more just for the mod, considering it basically involves running one program.
1474a5 No.15653262
>>15653215
You realize you can put PS1 games on a SNES mini via Retroarch right? You don't need to buy a PSX mini for PSX games and the SNES mini for SNES games.
acccc6 No.15653272
>>15652617
>no ape escape
why even buy the playstation classic
5875ec No.15653281
>>15653262
PS1 games are far bigger than SNES roms (those only cost 1-4MB per title), and unless you plug an external HDD, the inbuilt memory storage is not enough even for a single ps1 title. I also highly doubt about the accuracy/performance compared to POPS on PSP/Vita and Mednafen on PC
7a4f57 No.15653283
>>15653262
I need to test that. I have one Wii Classic Controller Pro, so the buttons and analog isn't an issue. The biggest issue would be getting that adapter to plug in a USB drive, which is like $10 or less. Those S/NES Classics don't have enough space for a moderate PS1 ISO
95f2cb No.15653297
>>15653273
I'd wipe her out with my dick if you know what I mean.
cdab0d No.15653301
>Giving money to Soyny after the PS2
That's your first mistake
d0e97d No.15653311
>>15653217
>Not having Gran Turismo on this thing is a fucking crime against humanity. Can you imagine the SNES min not having Mario World? GT at the time was Sony's big flagship game and you can bet your ass Soyny will learn from Nintendo's "mistake" and make sure its hack proof (or at least try).
Anon, here's how little Sony gives a shit: https://archive.fo/7r6TN
>"That, and I was at a Gran Turismo event recently where they had PS1, PS2, PS3 and PS4 games, and the PS1 and the PS2 games, they looked ancient, like why would anybody play this?"
1474a5 No.15653322
>>15653217
>>15653225
No I understand perfectly. The lineup for the SNES mini in the West is pretty shit when you compare it to the games that were hits on the original Playstation. If even fucking Nintendo knows how to milk stupid goyim better than you, you're objectively a shit company.
>>15653281
>>15653283
You can also mod it to take advantage of expandable storage.
https://snesclassicmods.com/add-more-storage-with-external-usb-hard-drive-mod-for-snes-classic-mini/
7a4f57 No.15653390
>>15653311
I think it's more of an issue licensing all the cars again just for an old game. I just don't know why they went with Twisted Metal 1 and not 2. Also NOTHING with Mega Man, which has more name power than a lot of these other franchises.
d9438b No.15653442
>>15653390
Classic and X collections are still selling. Capcom probably doesn't want to split profits with Sony. That leaves Legends, which is forever neglected.
c6ef54 No.15653510
Tobol No. 1
Parapa the Rappa
Street Fighter
Mortal Kombat
579926 No.15653515
>>15653272
The apes are the ones who buy a restricted emulator box.
be07a7 No.15653518
>>15653217
>hack-proof
you doubt the power of autism, my friend. i would bet any money this thing is hacked within days if not hours of the first consumer model being put in a customer's hands
aa95df No.15653567
This thread is making me realise how great that generation was.
7e26bb No.15653592
>>15653217
Did GT push psxs in the west?
d9438b No.15653599
>>15653567
Remember when consoles had games? Actual exclusive games, and more than two of them?
fc1d4e No.15653603
In my opinion its a pretty bad selection but WHO CARES.
PlayStation emulation has been around forever and anyone who wants to play PS1 games has far better options.
fc1d4e No.15653616
>>15652945
This thing is for normalfags. Running an emulator requires two braincells.
We all know you can run undubbed PS1 games on a toaster and play them with a DS4.
648865 No.15653620
>>15652617
You missed
>tekken 2
>spyro trilogy
>crash trilogy
>RE 2 and 3
>gex trilogy
>einhander
>crash bash
>soul reave
>tomb raider 1-4
>armored core
>akuji the heartless
>warzone 2100 (now free and open source on PC)
fa7ee1 No.15653638
>>15653603
The problem is that Sony is giving the absolute bottom of the barrel minimum because they're the winners this gen sales wise. This thing is somehow more jewish than the NES and SNES classics, between not having analogue sticks, not including a power supply and this fucking game list. I mean, the SNES Classic's list was arguable but I'd call at least 12 of that list heavy hitters for the console. Can you really say the same about this?
f02fcd No.15653641
>>15652617
>implying it matters what games pre-installed
I'll give a month after release max until that thing is hacked. The USB PS1 controllers alone are worth it.
>>15653599
That was SEGA and NEC. The latter is dead and the former is just a shadow of it's former self. Look at a list of the best Nintendo or Sony games. They've always been 3rd party games.
b21811 No.15653648
>>15652658
Surprised they got Parasite Eve. I thought I heard that they couldn't do anything with the character because of the licensing dispute with the author and that's how we got the whatever happened in 3rd Birthday.
c2f5d2 No.15653657
>>15653620
>Akuji
Isn't that just an unreleased Soul Reaver game with a nigger voodoo reskin?
77c72a No.15653659
>>15652692
>No Tomb Raider
>No Tony Hawk
>No Crash
(This is unforgivable)
>No Spyro
>No Jet Moto
>No Warhawk
>No Colony Wars
>No Ace Combat
>No Fighting Force
>No King's Field
>No Tecmo's Deception
>No Klonoa
>No Parappa/No Lammy
>No Parasite Eve
>No Legend of Dragoon
>No Wipeout
>No Tail Concerto
>No tons of other games which more deserve to be on the list
>No Analog Sticks
>>15652737
>No Tenchu
>No Worms
>No Alundra
>No Vigilante 8
>No Suikoden
>No Soul Blade/Edge
>No Dino Crisis
>No Tobal
>No Front Mission
>No Silent Hill
>No Vagrant Story
>No Xenogears
>No Castlevania
>No Star Ocean
>No Gran Turismo
>No Exhumed/Powerslave
Also no MediEvil, and they are asking 100 shekels for only 20 games with only few of them being actually iconic.
a59cfa No.15653661
>>15652617
>overpriced dirt-tier sbc emubox
Why would anyone here give a fuck about that piece of shit? We've had PS emulation that is wildly superior to Sony's shit-tier offerings for years now.
d12005 No.15653679
>>15652715
thing is, that Rainbow "port" is a completely different game, like Doom 64 and C&C 64, which were pretty close to the originals on the PS1
9a1d72 No.15653681
>>15653662
Finally a ps1 game that's actually good
5875ec No.15653686
>>15653567
>This thread is making me realise how great that generation was.
5th gen was full of experimental 3D shit, even if they sometimes ran rather wonky. 6th gen improved mostly on that part.
>>15653599
Plenty of shit fucked up the vidya industry, but besides DLCs and the increased development costs, I believe what fucked up the most are achievements (starting in 7th gen) as they gave data to devs on the fact a large majority of players do not actually finish games, thus influencing the development and game design of a lot of future titles.
>Actual exclusive games, and more than two of them?
I blame the faggots and autists who took Yatzee's joke meme seriously up to eleven and that dead cancerous TotalBiscuit's word of "exclusives are bad" for granted
>>15653648
Parasite Eve were released (and are still present) on the PSN store as PS1 Classics in either region. I dont get however why the JP model has it while the NA model does not
ed3666 No.15653709
>There's two games worth a shit on there
>I can play cool boarders 2 in 4k with better vertex calculation and texture mapping
53fa3b No.15653712
>>15652693
Why would you want the version with the worst soundtrack?
b0848b No.15653733
>>15652617
>Director's Cut
<No Crash Bandicoot
<No Spyro the Dragon
<No Xenogears
cc9fd6 No.15653738
>>15653638
Also, at least the SNES Mini had a new game (Starfox 2) so there was some incentive to buy it along with the classic games of the system (at least for normalfags. You can just emulate them perfectly on Snes9x or Mednafen/Retroarch). Sony literally is giving absolutely no one a reason to buy it especially since PS1 backwards compatibility is in most PS4s and PS3s, whereas the first time Nintendo did backwards compatibility on their main consoles was with the Wii and Nintendo Gamecube, so for a normalfaggot, there actually is a rhyme to that madness of buying a SNES Mini and NES Mini, since you can't play it on anything but a SNES or NES respectively and most people don't have those lying around anymore.
576916 No.15653741
>>15653174
>PS classic: greatest hits
>PS dualshock classic
>PS dualshock classic: greatest hits
I wonder if they could get away with this.
>>15653641
Why not just buy raspberry pi or whatever is the hottest mini shitbox now and buy pads separately? Cheaper and better.
5875ec No.15653748
>>15653733
Something I've noticed too is that Sony only give the first version of IQ Intelligent Qube on the PS Mini, and not IQ Final (the latest revision release on PS1 that contained additional game modes and new player avatars)
Also recommending this game
052d2b No.15653757
>>15653215
>Silent Bomber
>Tenchu 2
>R-Type Delta
>G-Police 2
I dunno who you are, or where you're from but you're a good cunt by my count.
706722 No.15653764
>Director's Cut
Most baffling decision. For only 20 games, it seems rather underwhelming. Certainly don't see why normalfags would buy of course no one should buy it at all it to play Jumping Flash! or Syphon Filter.
>>15653741
Don't see why they wouldn't try it given Nintendo did the same thing with the nes and snes. I want to know what complete waste of space normalfags would pay $300 for all three.
f02fcd No.15653781
>>15653638
>This thing is somehow more jewish than the NES and SNES
>between not having analogue sticks
The NES Mini didn't have one of the newer bone controllers either.
>not including a power supply
NES and SNES Mini didn't have adapters either.
>>15653741
>Why not just buy raspberry pi
Because I don't want a fucksberry pee, nigger. For the 1000 time I want OG hardware and not some off brand China junk.
>>15653748
Mein Neger.
95f2cb No.15653789
>>15653781
> I want OG hardware and not some off brand China junk
Then why buy this? It's literally a phone in a Playstation shaped box.
a59cfa No.15653792
>>15653781
>shit-tier chink sbc in a chink shell with a shit-tier inaccurate, hacky emulator
>og hardware
What did he mean by this?
35087d No.15653808
Anyone know which PS1 emulator is best? I've been running epsxe, but it has slowdown/sound distortion in a lot of games.
1c30c9 No.15653811
>>15653808
Mednafen is the most accurate.
f77a16 No.15653819
Get a raspberry pi and an 128gb SD card and you have almost every ps1 game ever made at your service.
a59cfa No.15653823
>>15653819
Just the NTSC-U collection is 455gb.
b0848b No.15653825
>>15653748
Didn't know about IQ final and I'll have to check out Pop'n Tanks!.
35087d No.15653830
>>15653811
Thanks. The bells and whistles of epsxe are nice, but if the games run like shit on a decent gaming rig, it's not worth it.
a59cfa No.15653867
>>15653830
Seconding mednafen, epsxe is a mess.
f02fcd No.15653880
>>15653789
>It's literally a phone in a Playstation shaped box
I don't think you know what literally means.
>>15653792
>shit-tier inaccurate, hacky emulator
It's probably like POPS and I've never had any issues with it.
a59cfa No.15653889
>>15653880
>It's probably like POPS
Which is shit-tier and inaccurate. It can't even compete with shit like PCSXR-PGXP.
95f2cb No.15653900
>>15653891
>hating
No seriously, get the fuck out.
d1f238 No.15653922
>>15652617
Hwat is this list? Did they get drunk and watch some random youtuber and go by that?
>>15652658
My fuggin brain hurts.
f02fcd No.15653924
>>15653891
It has a power cord, but it's missing an adapter. You're supposed to plug it directly into the USB port of your TV just like with the NES/SNES Mini. But you can also use an adapter from a Samsung phone for example or possibly even plug it into your PS3/4.
5875ec No.15653934
>>15653889
>Which is shit-tier and inaccurate
????
I never had a significant issue with it on the PSP and Vita, although I mostly went with the official eboots. Even my own personal eboot for some really obscure point-and-click game worked on the PSP (save for like one gameover cutscene having a black screen with sound on). I heard that some games could only work under certain POPS versions and Adrenaline on Vita does not include this option apparently.
cd4fa3 No.15653972
>>15653662
Only $60 on ebay goys!
a59cfa No.15653993
>>15653934
>I never had a significant issue with it on the PSP and Vita
You would have zero issues outside a tiny fraction of the library with Mednafen. The PSP is not nearly fast enough for accurate PS1 emulation, and neither is the PS3, which is why it only passes ~50% of accuracy tests. This is a case where the free option is vastly superior to the paid option, in every scenario.
aa618b No.15654017
So why would somebody buy this if you can connect a playstation controller to your PC and emulate any ps1 game for free? I want to know what kind of people they have in mind for their target audience
95f2cb No.15654033
>>15654017
People with a hundred bucks to burn.
fa7ee1 No.15654037
>>15654017
The same type of people who bought the NES and SNES Classic - normalfags who either think Emulation is a tool of Satan or are too retarded for it (and before you say anything, yes, plenty of people actually are too retarded for emulation, I know firsthand)
6a1a14 No.15654056
>>15654017
emulation is piracy and piracy is illegal, this isn't
d1f238 No.15654060
>>15654056
What a topsy turvy world we live in.
f02fcd No.15654079
>>15654017
Nostalgia, a fetish for OG gaming hardware and collectors. You know, people who actually like video games.
190da4 No.15654083
>>15654033
this. people with money don't give a shit because they don't have to.
a59cfa No.15654085
>>15654017
>OG gaming hardware
You keep using that phrase, but it does not mean what you think it means.
a59cfa No.15654086
675261 No.15654090
i am so fucking hyped, going to pre order in 30 min.
aa618b No.15654110
>>15654079
It seems lazy and cheap as fuck, I still have my playstation and it works perfectly fine but doesn't restrict which games I'd want to play on it. I'll leave the piracy argument for someone else because that is just going to go in circles until the thread dies off. Emulators give so much control over your games that I find it hard to go back but sure I can see the appeal of using my actual playstation from time to time for the sake of nostalgiafagging.
f02fcd No.15654128
>>15654085
OG = original.
Official hardware = original.
Whats there not to understand? I get it. You don't like the concept of these Mini consoles, whether it's, because you're too young to have played them back in the day, you're one of those reddit PCfaggotrace types or if you just like to be angry at people enjoying their hobbies. I don't care. Don't like it, don't buy it.
>>15654110
>It seems lazy and cheap as fuck
I's not even out yet.
>I still have my playstation and it works perfectly fine
Mine doesn't and the it's chipmodded so all my games are burned CD-Roms. This is the closest I can get to retro without spending hundreds on a new console, chipmodding or let alone buying games off ebay thanks to (((collectors))) aka scalpers.
5875ec No.15654134
>>15653993
I absolutely dont believe the crap you spout about POPS being inaccurate in any form, considering the rather lack of issues I have with it so far.
6f1173 No.15654145
>>15653301
What's wrong with the PS2
6f1173 No.15654150
>>15654017
Normalfags think piracy is bad for some gay reason
a59cfa No.15654153
31349e No.15654168
>>15654128
>I's not even out yet.
Then why are you damage controlling for it so hard then? Have fun wasting your money you fucking shill.
aa618b No.15654194
>>15654128
I can see your point I guess the convenience of emulation has been burned into my mind too deeply at this point and I'm not very willing to support these big companies and their shitty practices any longer. I don't mind supporting vidya made by smaller groups though, grim dawn is a recent one that comes to mind which I've had no regrets in buying. That and I really believe when it comes to this stuff the quality of work put out by people working on emulation for >free is far greater than what nintendo has done or whatever sony will do in the near future. In many cases the fans hold more respect for the originals than the people who own the rights to them.
706722 No.15654197
>>15654017
The ones who think piracy is a crime and refuse to touch an emulator.
f02fcd No.15654221
>>15654194
>>15654168
What damage control? 90% of the posts ITT are literally stop liking what I don't like.
>Have fun wasting your money
I can do what the fuck I want with my money, nigger.
>>15654194
>I can see your point I guess the convenience of emulation has been burned into my mind
I have 4TB of roms+atleast 2 different emulators for each console. But playing on "real" hardware is different than just emulating. Ever since I got my SNES Mini I'm actually playing these games instead of just hoarding them or playing them for 30 minutes or so. Call it nostalgia or whatever, but it is a better experience. It's fun and if you'll ever try these shitboxes out you'll know what I mean.
706722 No.15654226
>>15654128
>Original hardware
Sure it'll have original Playstation classic hardware, but it certainly won't contain the same hardware as a PSX.
a59cfa No.15654228
>>15654128
>single board computer running a low-tier emulator = original hardware
Oh fuck you're serious, jesus christ lmao.
28dc84 No.15654237
>almost 150 replies
>no Chrono Cross
>no Legend of Mana
bbb0d1 No.15654249
>Persona 1
There are only three good (and even that's arguable) Persona games and Persona 1 is not one of them.
7b83cf No.15654262
>>15654128
By your loose definition of "OG", a PSP, PSVita or PSTV are still way better options.
>"I's not even out yet. "
You don't have to test one yourself to see the shit list of games included, and state the fact that it's a cheap SBC running an emulator with low effort controllers that don't have dual sticks.
>"I don't care. Don't like it, don't buy it."
I won't buy it, but that doesn't stop me from laughing at people falling for the scam.
aa618b No.15654290
>>15654221
The "mini" part is what keeps me from seeing it as original hardware, it's smaller for the sake of convenience (just like emulation is) but if I wanted a nostalgia shitbox it would be cool to have the genuine thing, size included even if its impractical because that is how the originals were like. Having games selected for you defend it all you want is still bullshit but of course they want to choose only the most popular to have the widest appeal possible.
f02fcd No.15654303
>>15654249
>There are only three good
2, 4 and 5.
>>15654262
>By your loose definition of "OG", a PSP, PSVita or PSTV are still way better options.
They don't look like a PS1 nor do they have the controller.
>see the shit list of games included
Just hack it.
>controllers that don't have dual sticks.
That's even better. It's like the 1st model. And judging by the fact it has USB ports, you can probably just hook up a DS3/DS4 or even a DS2 if you have an adapter. But that's just an assumption.
>laughing at people falling for the scam
Sure. That's what you're doing. "Laughing".
bbb0d1 No.15654308
>>15654303
>2, 4 and 5
Correct. Nearly everything that P1 did, P2 did better, and nearly everything that P3 did, P4 and 5 did better.
Persona's a very love-it-or-hate-it series anyways.
d1f238 No.15654346
>>15654290
It's right foolish to think it's anything special just because it's in a special piece of plastic. I almost would have been interested in these things if they did something respectable like actually clone the original hardware. Anyone defending the state of things as is needs to just eat a gun.
fa7ee1 No.15654359
>>15654303
>3 is bad
>but 4 is good
>5 is good by any standards
Just because it pissed of journalists doesn't make the whiny obnoxious writing of 5 good. Any game that uses "rotten adults" as a serious insult is a fucking joke. Shame, too, the mechanics were fine.
And 4 was just 3 with a worse story, a shoehorned mascot, worse characters and all around easier.
f02fcd No.15654504
>>15654359
>>Any game that uses "rotten adults" as a serious insult is a fucking joke
>expecting Ryuji the retard to not say stupid shit
Anyways, Persona 5 was gameplay wise, story wise and in terms of social activities and in terms of design(it's incredibly stylish) the best Persona game ever made. The only thing hat bothered me was how fucking slow it is in the beginning and how faggy the protag is dressed. And that you can't romance the best girl/s
I wish SM5 will let me romance demongirls. Humans are overrated.
494ed9 No.15654529
>>15652617
>that music
just awful you fucking nigger fuck you
7237bf No.15654806
>>15652617
Figured as much. Sampler pack of PS1 games that were either popular, or at least ones Sony wouldn't have to shell out extra on. Which with so many "must play" sort of titles being third party, and some having up to 3-4 games on the system, overall it comes off as missed potential at having only limited it to twenty games total. Still kind of odd they gave Wild Arms a spot when Legend of Dragoon was apparently a more popular game (it certainly sold better, at least out here) and Sony owns both themselves, but including that game is a choice I won't complain about.
>Revelations: Persona
Guessing it's a straight rip of the western release with the blacked character.
>>15652673
Arc the Lad and Wild Arms did quite a bit better out there than here to my knowledge. Worth noting that, far as I'm aware, SCEA wanted nothing to do with Arc the Lad coming overseas despite owning it, due to being sprited when they wanted to push 3D in the library (and I suppose most of the series being "past due" or whatever you want to call it), until Working Designs offered, and even then it was an "all or nothing" sort of deal bundling the four games into one package.
Also both have mobile reboots now, so in a way it wouldn't shock me if those were chosen as extended promotion for their series.
cc9fd6 No.15654833
>>15654145
He said after they sold the PS2
102150 No.15654854
>>15652617
>that music
AIDS.
7237bf No.15654965
>>15654017
Normalfags that are A) nostalgic for most of the mainstream titles on the system, or B) people that didn't play the PS1 before and are curious about it, thus doubling as a sampler pack of mostly mainstream friendly titles, neither of which caring for emulation and/or piracy. Except that in limiting it to twenty games, group A is apt to also be dissatisfied with it due to it still missing numerous popular games.
>>15654854
Listening to it now, they should have just gone with a mix of brief music samples from the games in question cycling as they were shown instead of that garbage. At least then some of the audio would be good.
>>15654237
>Chrono Cross
They wouldn't be able to bring it to Europe in that case. Actually, perhaps not, considering they've got the PS1 Persona on there and that version was JP and NA only, and the preview video suggests it's a PAL trailer. Maybe they're finally moving past that "it didn't come to PAL originally, it can't go there now" thing the PS3/PSP/Vita era PSN store suffered from.
Reminder it took PAL fourteen years to officially get Chrono Trigger in any form, and they still don't have Chrono Cross.
a3b563 No.15655048
>>15654359
>Any game that uses "rotten adults" as a serious insult is a fucking joke.
As if the boomer meme is any different.
73d539 No.15655052
The only game on that list I remotely care about is Battle Arena Toshinden and I already have the superior Sega Saturn version.
a16e60 No.15655107
>>15654308
>fujoshi bait
>doing anything better
looks like we have some fags in denial
84c513 No.15655155
>>15653811
What about Xebra?
b0848b No.15655195
>>15653733
>>15652617
>>15653748
oh shit I'm a dum dum, Just realized this is a PSX mini thread. Thought OP was saying these games where what he considered PS1 Classics.
9bcd21 No.15655629
>>15652617
>>15652658
Pretty underwhelming lists, but at least the best Persona made it in.
>>15652896
Yeah, that shitty "localization" is AtlusUSA's greatest shame, or at least it ought to be. I never thought they'd dig it up again. I guess they have no shame after all.
7237bf No.15655670
>>15655629
I would assume it's a similar case as with the PSN: the versions of classics on it have to be the "official" version we originally got for the system. Heard rumor that's why the PS1 version of Breath of Fire couldn't get on the western PSN; something along the lines of improper crediting that a simple edit could have fixed, but wasn't allowed to happen.
576916 No.15656043
>>15654128
>Sony of 1995
>Sony of 2018
>the same thing
I doubt even a quarter of people from back then still works now at Sony. Playstation Classic is about as original as average chinese shitbox.
e9f91e No.15656065
>>15652658
way better
>>15652692
King's Field aged badly, they should remaster and make VR, perfect game for it.
a6da0a No.15656095
How are they going to add the new lighting effects?
c83720 No.15656355
>>15656043
The games will be the same. I doubt anything will be fixed or changed. Forget undubs or new localisation.
Why are people buying this shit again?
75e61e No.15656358
>only the first Twisted Metal
>not 2
>not 3
>not even Small Brawl
c83720 No.15656362
>>15654079
Actually I think people who emulate 20 year old JRPGs instead of playing AssCreed are the real gamers. But that's just me.
People who buy this do it because it looks cool methinks.
c83720 No.15656365
>>15654110
Undubs. Save state. Fan translations. Cheat codes. Modern controllers. Upscale.
Emulation> original hardware
1c30c9 No.15656371
>>15656365
>Modern controllers
I wish this was actually a plus. Fucking chinks man.
a3b563 No.15656397
>>15656365
>Undubs. Fan translations.
Enjoy your communist trannies fansubs, cuck
a59cfa No.15656399
>>15656371
Modern controllers on average aren't any worse than gen 4-6 controllers. Put most of them through same level of abuse that modern controllers get (thousands of hours of playtime) and they fall apart just as fast. Serious speedrunners typically stock up on all of the wear parts so they can keep rebuilding and replacing whenever they get a failure.
a16e60 No.15656450
>>15656397
>the cuckchanner just wants to shitpost
4d1584 No.15656751
>>15652967
MGS is also Konami though
e2aaa7 No.15659156
>>15653659
All of the anons complaining about Crash and Spyro need to remember that both are having their PS1 trilogies remade/remastered in HD on PS4. Sony isn't going to undermine those $30 a piece collections.
1bafed No.15659431
>>15652990
Ape escape is racist anyway.
95f2cb No.15659526
af4b6d No.15659575
>>15653662
Whoopee Camp is dead, so who owns Tomba anyways?
705ca3 No.15659633
Yoshida must really hate The Legend of Dragoon, especially because it was one of the first projects he worked on at Sony and one of the most underrated titles on the Playstation that Sony put out.
630dcc No.15659636
This shit is for literal redditors. I hope none of you nigs are buying it.
7237bf No.15659788
>>15659633
>one of the most underrated titles on the Playstation that Sony put out.
I don't know about that; you mean in its native Japan? Because it actually sold well enough to get a Greatest Hits print in the west, something that pretty much no other Sony owned JRPG has managed here for better or worse (barring Demon's Souls, should you count it, though as far as I'm aware that was one that sold better over time and seventh gen was long). Though I suppose there's debate to be had about the quality, Legend of Dragoon from what I've seen over the years being subject to love it or hate it reception. Or if you mean in comparison to Sony's non JRPG offerings, yeah, I guess I can see it not performing as well as games they owned that had more mainstream appeal (though wasn't the push towards developing LoD that SCEJ wanted to try to get in on some of Final Fantasy VII's success anyhow? At least I've heard that over the years, though it might be hearsay).
95f2cb No.15659805
>>15659633
And waste that precious flash stick space that could be used on multiple car games nobody gives a shit about that play like ass with a d-pad? Someone's not getting promoted.
c2bfb2 No.15659811
It's shit. Like everything sony does.
95f9a7 No.15659826
>>15652617
>NO CRASH BANDICOOT
>NO SPYRO THE DRAGON
>NO SILENT HILL
WHAT THE FUCK
THE
FUCK
WERE THEY EVEN THINKING
a59cfa No.15659856
>>15659826
That you'll buy it anyway you fucking paypig.
95f9a7 No.15659862
>>15659856
>That you'll buy it anyway you fucking paypig.
NOPE.AVI
9109c3 No.15659926
>>15654303
You don't think 3 is decent?
e65038 No.15659933
>>15652617
> No Spyro
> No G Darius
> Twisted Metal 1? Really?
> No Xenogears
Didn't even plan on buying but dropped it anyway.
95f2cb No.15659987
>>15659933
>No G Darius
Funny you should mention that.
48f77c No.15659988
How many of these games are available on the PC? Not specifically talking emulator-wise.
a59cfa No.15660028
>>15659988
For PC ports specifically, at least these:
>FF7
>Resident Evil
>Oddworld
>MGS
>Battle Arena Toshinden
>GTA
>Rayman
>Revelations: Persona
e72709 No.15660043
Which 20 among what is possibly the greatest console library of games would you pick were it up to you, /v/?
>1 Ace Combat 3
>2 Ape Escape
>3 Armored Core
>4 Castlevania SOTN
>5 Crash Bandicoot 2
>6 Crash Team Racing
>7 Einhander
>8 Final Fantasy Tactics
>9 Final Fantasy VII
>10 Gran Turismo 2
>11 MediEvil
>12 Metal Gear Solid
>13 Omega Boost
>14 PaRappa the Rapper
>15 Resident Evil 2
>16 Silent Hill
>17 Spyro the Dragon
>18 Tekken 3
>19 Vigilante 8
>20 Xenogears
7237bf No.15660115
>>15660028
Does Persona particularly count when apparently that port was Japan only? I doubt there's an English script rip patched version, but that's speculation on my end.
a59cfa No.15660211
>>15660115
A PC port is a PC port, and besides, we already have every single game on that list performing far better on Mednafen than that little SBC shitbox will so it's a moot point.
88ac65 No.15660951
>>15652617
>>15655052
>>15660028
Toshinden was absolute shit, and you are faggots for liking it.
d864f2 No.15661057
>>15660043
> Ace Combat 2
> Alundra
> Armored Core
> Castlevania SOTN
> Colony Wars: Vengence
> Crash Bandicoot 2
> Dino Crisis 2
> Exhumed/Powerslave
> Final Fantasy VII
> Resident Evil
> Ridge Racer
> Soul Blade/Edge
> Street Fighter Alpha 3
> Tobal No. 2
> Tomb Raider
> Wipeout 2097
> Worms
> Vagrant Story
> Tenchu: Stealth Assassins
> Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2
These are just my favourites. You could easily make 20 games just from fighting and racing games alone, and another 20 from platformers and puzzle games, and then another 20 from RPGs alone.
I didn't include any Tekken or Toshinden or Bushido Blade or SNK games or Guilty Gear.
I didn't include Gran Turismo or Rapid Racer or Jet Moto or Colin MacRae or V-Rally.
I didn't include IQ or Puzzle Fighter or Tetris or Wetrix or Bust-A-Move.
I didn't include Spyro or Croc or Tomba or Klonoa or Mega Man.
I didn't include Dragon Quest or FFT or Tactics Ogre or Vandal Hearts or Legend of Legaia or Lunar or Suikoden.
The fact that this is the line-up Sony went with proves two things: One, they don't know what the fuck they're doing. Two, they're cheap as fuck and didn't want to pay licensing fees to third parties. Although in some cases (Tony Hawk, for example) I'm not sure Sony could release the game anyway since so many of the contracts involved for music and likenesses would have expired years ago.
a59cfa No.15661525
>>15660951
Did you just ctrl+f toshinden and type up that post without actually reading what you were responding to?
541856 No.15662813
>>15652658
I'm not entirely surprised by the differences, some games I would have liked on the American version, but I understand why they weren't. The Arc the Lad series wasn't released separately in the US and was instead released as a game collection, which contained the first three games. The fact that it was released as a collection over here more than likely played a part in it's exclusion from the PS Classic in the US.
Armored Core not being included is kinda bullshit and was probably excluded to make room for some of the western games. I also think they were trying to keep the lists similar which was how Revelations: Persona managed to make it's way onto the American version, but also they were trying to take into account what was popular back in the 90's with both countries.
Saga Frontier and Parasite Eve not getting added is also bullshit, but that's only 4 games I like more that are on the Japanese version. Oddworld is a decent trade off for one of these games, and same goes with Twisted Metal, and I think I really like that we got Oddworld overall, something about that game is still good today.
cc6c98 No.15671980
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
SONY IS FUCKING FINISHED
cc6c98 No.15671996
>no Spyro, Crash, Evil Zone, Gex, Destruction Derby, PaRappa, Resident Evil, Tony Hawk, Klonoa, Worms, or any classic PS rpgs, racing games, or fighting games
PSC IS DOA
15e4ad No.15672016
>>15671980
Not great, but they could have picked a much worse line up.
15e4ad No.15672024
>>15653972
Death to all game scalpers.
7237bf No.15672030
>>15671996
>any classic PS rpgs
>Implying Final Fantasy isn't classic with the mainstream RPG crowd, that Wild Arms series doesn't have a cult following, or that Persona hasn't gotten widely popular since those days.
Not defending the emubox, but are you even looking? Granted, I know the PS1 had a lot of JRPGs, and they really didn't bother to put many on there, but in limiting themselves to just twenty games that's still a over a tenth of the roster just on JRPGs. Though considering how fans view the western PS1 version of the first Persona these days, they probably could have done better for the slot with Persona 2: EP instead.
>>15662813
>The Arc the Lad series wasn't released separately in the US and was instead released as a game collection, which contained the first three games.
As a bundled purchase, yes, but wasn't it like four five discs still, with the game data store separately? And beyond that, the PS3-era PSN store had all the games as separate downloads, even out here. I'm just saying I don't think that's the deciding factor.
>SaGa Frontier
SaGa Frontier Square couldn't even give enough of a shit about to put on the PSN out here. It, SaGa Frontier 2, and Brave Fencer Musashi were never rereleased here (though maybe it's the voicing rights that kept BFM off?). Parasite Eve has more grounds for question why it's only on the JP emubox, being that it did get rereleased here previously and secured enough sales for a Greatest Hits print back when it was current.
67ee01 No.15672033
>>15652662
>I was born in the 90s so my opinion on this doesn't count
There. Much shorter.
ab2984 No.15672663
>>15661057
>The fact that this is the line-up Sony went with proves two things: One, they don't know what the fuck they're doing. Two, they're cheap as fuck and didn't want to pay licensing fees to third parties
You forgot three, they plan to go full jew and sell add-ons later with additional titles
85f248 No.15672669
>they didn't include digimon world
8e811d No.15672694
>>15672663
I just checked and it does have an unused USB port in the back, so it might be that.
>that useless open button
ab2984 No.15672738
>>15672694
Like most things Sony does to its customers I assume it was done out of spite just to remind you what a real, working playstation looks like instead of what they are offering.
86185d No.15672754
Buy one and wait for it to be hacked, then download all the roms you want and play them on real hardware instead of emulators or even relying on old disks, while still being more portable than a laptop.
d0ebee No.15672758
>>15654090
>LaunchBox
My nigga.
fa7ee1 No.15672762
>>15672754
>real hardware
<is just chinkware with official branding
>while still being more portable than a laptop
<need a TV to play it so can't play it outdoors
d0ebee No.15672769
>>15659805
I can see Sony penny pinching considering loading the thing with multi disk JRPGs probably wouldn't have been efficient versus how many you want there, but some of the picks are definitely outlandish and not classics territory. Absence of some like Gran Turismo I can at least understand because of most likely car licenses, for example.
86185d No.15672780
>>15672762
>Chinkware
Granted
>need a TV
What is a portable screen? Fuck, if you want to play on the go, get a PSP. When I said portable, I meant that you can take it to a friend's house and re-live your childhood on old games with old friends.
d0ebee No.15672782
>>15661057
>You could easily make 20 games just from fighting and racing games alone, and another 20 from platformers and puzzle games, and then another 20 from RPGs alone.
This is really the main problem. How in the FUCK do you put together a list of 20 games while representing everything platform had? Contrary to all those N64 vs PS1 debates, latter really had both quality and quantity going for itself.
cc9fd6 No.15672944
>>15672782
True. Most of the greatest N64 games are either first or second party Nintendo games (via Rare). The only great third party game on the N64 I can think of really is Ogre Battle 64
ab5d22 No.15673098
>>15672782
This is why a N64 mini is easier to make. Nintendo owns all the rights. Sony has to pay money to 3rd parties for every PS1 classic they sell.
6255f3 No.15673131
>>15656399
I disagree, all of the current gen controllers are garbage. DS4 is serviceable but it has pointless shit like the touchpad and the lights. It's the best dpad of this generation though.
Switch is downright awful no matter what option you use. Joycons are fucking worthless for anything outside of first party titles, with the worst dpad out of all of them. The pro controller is expensive as fuck, and the dpad is so shitty there are tutorials online on how to "fix" it with fucking tape. This is a $70 fucking controller that you have to nigger rig with tape.
Xbone controllers are stiff, the buttons are loud and clicky, and the build quality is complete trash. If you spring for the elite you get even worse build quality as a fuck you for blowing over a hundred bucks on a controller for your nogames box.
4ff47a No.15673143
>people referencing Einhander and Omega Boost
Sorry for not being as cool as you with my post here, but the thing is really underwhelming even from a mainstream perspective. In Britain and the rest of Europe, Tomb Raider and Wipeout really represented modern gaming in the second half of the 90s. The thing really needs at least one rep from the Tomb Raider games, Tony Hawk, something with Crash Bandicoot, and Wipeout (XXL is best, fite me irl). Imagine it had those (plus an odd one like the Spice Girls' game for extra-corny nostalgia memery), and it would have been… kinda OK, but not something to be hyped about. The list is far worse than I expected it to be, and I didn't expect perfection.
>>15659156
>All of the anons complaining about Crash and Spyro need to remember that both are having their PS1 trilogies remade/remastered in HD on PS4.
But Crash was the closest thing to an official mascot for the Playstation, and they could have included him with Crash Team Racing.
>>15673098
Sony got Wipeout though.
a82811 No.15673166
>>15654128
>he gets paid by Sony to shit up imageboards
I hope you get some pride and self-esteem in your life someday
000000 No.15673268
2b9009 No.15674787
>>15672780
Nigger, there's already a device that lets you play every single PSX game on original hardware and is portable. It's the same size as the PSMini AND it supports Dual Shock controllers.
aa95df No.15675178
I realise music licensing is real difficult, but they managed to get the original Wipeout on the PSN store a PSN classic.
d9438b No.15677451
>>15672944
Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon, Mischief Makers, and Sin and Punishment are some of my favourite N64 games. It also briefly had the best version of Rayman 2.
7237bf No.15677471
>>15677451
Annoyed me back in the day that Konami couldn't be bothered to get the N64 Goemons on the VC. I mean, they did so for the SNES one we got, and eventually the Gameboy one for the 3DS VC going off what I've heard, but did they even try with the N64 ones? If they met difficulties that's one thing, but I wouldn't put laziness past them either.
6e831f No.15677887
>>15672944
N64 had great FPS games.
a59cfa No.15678023
>>15673131
N64 and DC controllers were worse than any modern pad by a mile, between the n64 stick disintegrating and jamming the mechanism, resulting in an unusable and floppy piece of shit, or the dc consistently getting stick drift after about a week of use.
It's time to take off the nostalgia glasses, anon. DS/2 and the v2 Saturn pad are the only stand-out non-shit gamepads.
abaabe No.15678316
Trailer was shit, I tried to fix it. Didn't come out exactly like I wanted it to but I still think it's better.
c79059 No.15679066
>>15652617
>Destruction Derby
>Syphon Filter
>Rainbow 6
At least they got good taste.
Destruction Derby is the greatest racing game on PS1, prove me wrong.
71e423 No.15679927
>>15678316
Nice but without tomb rider or the possibility to expend the library it is still 99$ too expensive.
d9438b No.15680027
>>15677887
I don't know if I'd call Turok great, but I do love Turok. It's one of those franchises with just the right amount of stupid, you know?
3277d5 No.15680281
>>15652617
>Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six
Didn’t the PlayStation port sucked without duelshock?
2b9009 No.15680354
>>15679066
>Destruction Derby is the greatest racing game on PS1, prove me wrong.
You mean Destruction Derby 2 is the greatest racing game on the PS1, and they fucked up immeasurably by not having it on the collection.
0fa5d7 No.15680388
>>15680354
I liked it but there was this way better derby game on pc that I couldn't help but think about as I played it. Also for some reason I found it really annoying that every car in any race had to be the same model.
006f8e No.15681837
>>15653811
I use Mednafen because I'm an accuracy/authenticity autist, but if you don't care about that you should get
>RetroArch
and use BeetlePSX with PGXP. BeetlePSX is a fork of Mednafen with hardware rendering support, and PGXP allows you to play PlayStation games with not just upscaling but also fixed polygon jitter and perspective correct texturing. You can also enable virtual overclocking and get many games to run at 60 FPS.
a59cfa No.15682020
>>15681837
Beetle PSX with the software renderer and meme features disabled has identical accuracy to standalone with much better sync.
06bb70 No.15683377
>>15681837
The best thing about emulation is that you can make games look better and run better. Lots of games have great art that are wasted on shitty technology.
5875ec No.15683519
>>15683377
>are wasted on shitty technology
>hardware that was made 20 years ago and enabled devs to do shitload of experimental titles thanks to limitations and a simple design to work on
If anything I'd rather have those "shitty technologies" from the 5th and 6th gen than most of the current shit we get today.
2b9009 No.15683527
>>15683519
I'd rather have the current level of technology we have today, but with the experimental spirit, talent, vision, and ambition that 5th and 6th generation developers had. Even if the games don't push the hardware to it's limits due to budget concerns, they can still push gameplay to it's limits within the framework of their budgets and not have to worry about hardware related compromises.
f32e7f No.15683550
>>15683519
>devs nowadays have far more possibilities than previously
>it's the hardware's fault shitty publishers make shitty games
you realize yourself how stupid you sound, right?
5875ec No.15683615
>>15683550
Because limitations forced devs to find alternatives, such as using 2D art instead of 3D during cutscenes (Max Payne, Kurohyou RGG and MGS Portable for instance), using the fog originally to hide the low draw distance only to accidentally create a creepy/eerie atmosphere, etc. Now it's mostly all about raw power grafix and bloated budgets. Lot of visual tricks gone in the drain, and even a good amount of jap niche devs have been trying to directly compete (Falcom in particular as it still pisses off they dropped off the gnome models in favor for low-budget 3D shit) against the bigger boys in the visual department
a59cfa No.15684110
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>>15683527
100% correct. The limitations didn't make the games, the extremely talented developers who dealt with minimal kike publisher meddling did. There's no reason to think that those extremely talented and creative developers would churn out a worse product, all things equal, with no hardware limitations.
>>15683615
>Now it's mostly all about raw power grafix
Funny that you say that, because gen 5 was heavily marketed as exactly that.
2b9009 No.15684134
>>15684110
>100% correct. The limitations didn't make the games, the extremely talented developers who dealt with minimal kike publisher meddling did. There's no reason to think that those extremely talented and creative developers would churn out a worse product, all things equal, with no hardware limitations.
Ideally, there should be budget limitations, not hardware limitations. What currently is the general ballpark for a AA game should be the absolute top budgetary cap. If they want to produce more impressive products, they'll need to develop better tools, prioritize smaller teams of greater talent, create more efficient development pipelines, cut horseshit like "professional" voice acting in 100 different languages, and let a game sell on it's own merits with minimal (but smarter) advertising, etc. Hardware should not be the limiting factor.
bd79dd No.15684164
>no dualshocks
>no way to play Ape Escape
I bet they'll release the PlayStation Classic 2 with Dualshock and then the PlayStation Classic X. Are we eventually just going to get a PS3 Classic release?
Can you even use discs for this shit?
2b9009 No.15684204
>>15684164
>They'll release a PSOne mini
>It's the same size
bd79dd No.15684216
>>15684204
I can't wait for the Xbox Slightly Less Huge to release.
a8c933 No.15684225
>>15652627
>Sony really is jack shit without third parties and purchased exclusives, huh.
Sony has been jack shit ever since CRTs got phased out, which is also when the PS2 ended.
69620c No.15684234
>>15683377
The technology is fine, you're the faggot trying to display them on modern sets they weren't designed for. Seriously all the games you complain about look perfect on my Trinitron. That's the core problem with these faggy mini-consoles is that they can't even go analogue to analogue so they will end up looking like trash. Fuck I doubt they even put a crt filter in this shit.
a8c933 No.15684266
>>15684234
I never understood why anyone wants to see retro games on +1080p. It looks like such shit. For some reason they don't notice it until you start showing them pre-rendered caps like pic related, but all games look like this to me. I cannot stand the sight of a low polygon model popping out of my screen because it's ontop of an extremely low res texture. I cannot stand the sight of blatantly sharp corners. 480i, 240p and Aperture Grille hid all these problems.
69620c No.15684288
>>15684266
I couldn't agree more, I just think most people haven't seen analogue to analogue in so long they forget how good it actually looks, and even fewer people have seen how sharp and clear a PVM can look. They assume "it's an HDTV, how could it not be better?". Another thing horrible about that image is without the Aperture Grille the colors are dead wrong, WAY too bright, makes games like RE1 and 2 look cartoonish instead of dark like they should be.
ad3aed No.15684299
>>15678316
You should extend this to have the games they missed out lol.
Then post it all over the place.
a8c933 No.15684313
>>15684288
> even fewer people have seen how sharp and clear a PVM can look
>>15684303
>BVM
I never understood this either. At a certain point it's so sharp you can basically see all the flaws that I was talking about earlier.
69620c No.15684315
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>>15684303
Anon, that's just a Trinitron. They all look that good. And that's what my PVM is (actually uses the exact same screen as the BVM model equivalent, BVM just has more features).
69620c No.15684324
>>15684313
Trust me when I say it doesn't look bad. Old games on a PVM look clean and sharp, they still have the sharp edges dulled by the aperture grille which is still present, and while the graphics look sharp because they are in their original resolution they don't look blurry, and polygons blend fine in to 2D-backgrounds. Highly suggest giving specifically a Trinitron set a look some time (they also made non-PVMs).
a8c933 No.15684332
>>15684315
BVM has more TV lines, which makes the image sharper. PVMs are like 600-900, and I think BVMs are +1000. Could be wrong on the numbers though. I think BVMs can also get a higher resolution.
>>15684324
Part of that is because it's still at 640x480 I suppose.
69620c No.15684344
>>15684332
Oh, is that the big difference? That makes sense. Mine has 800 lines which feels good, but I wonder how a BVM would look with it's more dense lines? Higher resolution would be nice for classic PC games, would be cool to see what something like Fallout looks like on a CRT.
a8c933 No.15684373
>>15684344
I honestly don't know. It's hard to tell with these things without seeing it firsthand. Some BVMs are also 16:9. I decided not to buy too much into it, because the blurring is a big part of what makes the games look good.
69620c No.15684380
>>15684373
Fair enough. There were several games that used the general fuzz that Composite cables added to video for graphical effects such as the waterfalls in I think Sonic 1. The developers were working to get the most out of the hardware of the time so it's not unreasonable to say they had a composite to standard CRT image in mind while developing.
a8c933 No.15684391
>>15684380
PVMs is what a lot of the art was designed on from what I understand. BVMs, however, are for TV studios and such. Although, John Carmack used one for making Quake.
69db67 No.15684400
>>15672782
>dat feel when superior version was never officially released outside of Japan
Thank fuck for fan translations even if we have to tolerate shenanigans.
69620c No.15684402
>>15684391
Interesting. Makes sense artists of the game would want PVMs at least to work on, probably mostly trinitrons as well due to their color range. I know that for Silent Hill 2 I've seen footage of the development team working on PVMs at their desks.
f47686 No.15684751
>>15652799
If they switched to mp3 for soundtracks they could compress the hell out of them.SOTN without the opening fmv and soundtrack cd audio tracks is like 30mb.
f47686 No.15684787
>>15653819
And if you don't want a raspi take any spare oldest desktop or laptop you have and it'll run emulation station plus retroarch
f5731b No.15685589
>>15652617
So are any of these games obscure or have not been available to download on PSN?
006f8e No.15685627
>>15682020
>much better sync.
I would consider using it but I loathe RetroArch's interface so much that even Mednafen with a frontend is more usable to me.
>>15683377
I get what you're saying but I object to "shitty technology." These hardware designs were about the best they could come up with the state of technology. It's not like they could have willed faster chips and more memory bandwidth out of thin air.
>>15684266
I prefer to play games at their original resolution and look, I was just throwing it out there as an option. But your example is contrived, of course a high-rez model is going to stick out against a pre-rendered background. It's not nearly as bad in a fully 3D game. The texturing thing is subjective. N64-style shit with texture filtering looks terrible upscaled to me, but low res unfiltered textures look fine to me.
a59cfa No.15688808
>>15685627
Mednafen is drag and drop, why would you use a frontend for that? Have you ever actually used mednafen, or am I being rused right now?
006f8e No.15690569
>>15688808
I did forget that you could drag and drop files onto the exe but it's still nice to have a GUI for changing settings.