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because goddesses can have sex appeal to straight players

Amaterasu is the most holy Japanese deity because she's the one who created humans.

I think they just want an excuse to draw angelic chicks.

>>15645899

Goddesses are sexy, faggot.

>>15645899

Because they want to fuck the goddess. That's it.

>>15645935

It's amazing how hard this is for people to understand after all these years of weebshit media. Japan doesn't really do omnipotent, omniscience, immortal deities. Their idea of Gods are finite, fallible, and capable of being weakened and killed.

>>15645899

To be honest a female god would make more sense than a male one, since the act of creating humanity can be an allegory for a mother giving birth to children.

>>15645959

Are niggers an allegory to divine FAS?

>>15645975

>canceling your wizard powers in any era

smh tbh fam

>>15645987

Beating your meat doesn't deny you wizard powers. Letting a woman make you part of her cock carousel trip to roastie-dom does.

>>15645987

>Not giving your loosh to your ara of choice.

Why a masculine god? I would rather have goddesses some of which are the literal embodiment of beauty over some dude. But now we can't all thanks to monotheism, fucking middle eastern fags, there was nothing wrong with the polytheist Greece and Rome.

>no one's mentioning the elephant in the room

Whenever there's a goddess in a game, there's a chance, albeit a small chance, that she'll manifest and tell us that she loves us, and that she believes we're special. And we'll cry a little that we need a pixilayed anime goddessfu to tell us something we're dying to hear in the real world, but never do.

Because people come from vagina

Vagina makes people

Vagina is god

Praise your god shitlord

>>15646099

Centuries of isolation followed by rapid industrialization, imperialism, and then occupation by a foreign does interesting things to a country

>>15646168

*foreign superpower

VAGINA

>>15646099

>Animistic religion

>primitive

A far more advanced concept than the foolish and soulless rationalism that modernity considered 'progress' and turned out to alienate people and destroy cultures.

In the Dragon Quest games, the translators change "God" to "Goddess." Except in the new one where I think they refer to God as "The Divine Providence."

>>15646200

I didn't say the religion is primitive but that this type of religion is most often found in primitive societies.

>>15646200

Religions evolved similarly in different societies, you start with a bunch of spirits (fire, forest, whatever), then they become gods (war, farming, etc), then one god above the others or even eliminating the others (the jewish god was a god in the beginning, jupiter was more important than baccus, etc). No need to get triggered.

>>15646219

>>15646221

Technological primitivism isn't in the same category as cultural primitivism, after all, the average modern person of above average IQ is far more stunted spiritually and emotionally than people of ancient times. It's all an arbitrary definition from 19th century thinkers who led our world into the shitshow it currently is due to their hubris. Consciously or not, you've adopted their cancerous thought processes, which were based on an incomplete understanding of metaphysics.

>>15646232

Go jerk off yourself off to some dialectical materialism or somesuch, sweetie.

>>15646258

>the average modern person

>of above average IQ

>>15646258

>sweetie

This mentally dysfunctional furfag again…

ANIMALISTIC TRIBALISM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YIFFING IN A FAUX FUR SUIT YOU COLOSSAL FAGGOT

>>15646298

It's all one phrase, anon. The median of the set possessing an above average IQ.

>>15646312

Animism isn't about animals, you utter moron. Try looking up words and don't just assume you know who you are talking to or what they are saying.

>>15646321

Can you read?

>>15646165

Those are tanuki in your drawings, not bears.

>>15646329

Can you?

>>15646329

Yes. I was talking about animism and you starting screeching about some furfag and 'animalistic tribalism', the obvious conclusion is that you don't know what animism is. You also use 'literally' and call anonymous people grandpa, so I met you on the same ground and just assumed you were one of those crazy lefties since that's a common posting style they display.

>>15645907

Except she didn't. Amaterasu is simply the sun deity and an ancestor of the Japanese imperial family. Izanagi, Amaterasu's father, is the creator of humanity

>>15645899

Does god or a god even have a sex?

>>15646099

How's that monotheist gig working out, though? Ever since its inception, it's always been 'one sect murdering another in the name of yahwey, god and/or allah'. This spiritual system found in Japan does away with this needless conflict and allows development.

>>15645935

That's a widely spread myth. It means deity, not simply a spirit. Here are translations of a few different dictionary definitions.

>信仰の対象として尊崇・畏怖 (いふ) されるもの。人知を超越した絶対的能力をもち、人間に禍福や賞罰を与える存在。

>Beings who are worshiped or feared that possess absolutely power beyond human comprehension and can either curse or bless humans.

>人間を超えた存在で、人間に対し禍福や賞罰を与え、信仰・崇拝の対象となるもの。

>Super human beings that are worshiped and revered who can give blessings or put curses on humans.

>>15645935

I thought Kami also meant paper and delicious taste. And hair. And seasoning.

One word, multiple meanings. No wonder folks having issues with the language.

>>15645956

That second pic…is that Final Fantasy Legend or Seventh Stand User?

>>15646444

Explanations stemming from pure reason are usually making shit up too when it comes to understanding life itself and not the mere mechanical processes that comprise it. Intuitive connections and divine inspiration are elements of consciousness that are currently neglected and lead to the degraded cultures we have today where misanthropic people like you believe that transcendence is an illusion, and morality a mere byproduct of material conditions being favorable. This being considered an enlightened point of view has led to many rationalized evils, both subtly and overtly greater than those of the past.

>>15645905

If you can recognize sensible decisions then sensibly suck start a shotgun

>>15646549

Imagine being this upset

Christianity has no goddesses. Shinto does.

The red circle on Japan's flag is even a direct reference to Amaterasu.

>>15646533

I'm just saying, it's hard to find good men when times get tough but then again I'm not convinced a lot of people aren't just pretending to be good people for sake of society's approval or their own.

When shit hits the fan these people will drop their moralities and outnumber the people with enough character to keep theirs.

>>15645956

>Because the male gods get killed off by the hero

What about ActRaiser 1 and 2, where you are God (or at least His physical incarnation)

>>15646605

Christ, anon. If he wasn’t trolling you to begin with, he’ll certainly start now.

But good job keeping the world safe for science, I guess.

>>15646433

Doesn't the last definition say that they have "become the targets of religious worship"?

>>15646605

Don't ever waste your breath debating with someone who types posts with the word "sweetie". Just win the argument efficiently then leave.

>>15646605

I don't think I've seen someone get blown the fuck out so hard in my life

>>15646605

Where on reddit did you find that gigantic fedora tip of a copypasta?

>>>/v/15646605

>arguing and murdering each other over what an invisible man in the sky thinks.

Yes, later on people found other excuses.

>Research into the various religious texts, endless essays written about the "divine", and generations of lifetimes spent attempting to understand god have had a net result of exactly ZERO in improving humanity.

I think you're butthurt that after antiquity most of universities and schools were founded by the church. Do you think ancient roman and greek texts were just lying about everywhere?

>Ten thousand years of entire civilizations prostrating themselves to their deities did nothing to prevent them from dying of disease, famine, drought, and foreign invaders.

<man, those 5 year olds sure are stupid, they can't even drive a car. What losers LMAO

>Our civilization has made childhood death from disease so rare it is a shock to even hear of it. They harnessed the supposed "lightning of the gods" and we use it to look at anime tiddies some gook drew on the other side of the world. The mechanization of agriculture makes us produce so much food we literally throw away carrots and other vegetables that merely look "sorta ugly". And here you are, you revolting nigger of a human, disgusting parody of homo sapiens, you detritus from the womb; you post here using a computer

All made by Christians, btw. I mean, you'd think that if those inventors were so intelligent, you'd think all of them would just bash religion like there's no tomorrow, right? It would make no sense for them to identify as Christians.

Too bad the catholic church is shit now.

>and you dare to denigrate all that scientific advancement has given us.

I wouldn't held it in high esteem either, if dumb niggers who fall for enlightenment's sore fantasies of "dark ages was a century of shit and religion makes everybody 60 IQ mongoloid" defend it. You don't appear to comprehend things beyond exaggerated cardboard cutouts.

>Go live in a cave and wipe your asshole with the same unwashed hand you eat with if you don't appreciate what western ideals have brought us, you worthless missed abortion.

Ironic.

5/7 made me reply

>>15646605

>mfw an ignorant shit confuses the Scientific Revolution with the Enlightenment even though the Scientific Revolution happened first, caused all the good stuff, and made the shitty Enlightenment possible by virtue of improving human lives so much that they had the luxury of coming up with retarded ideas

>tfw you will never be a Goddess' chosen hero

>tfw you will never go on a grueling quest for her

>tfw you will never protect or see her divine smile

>>15646686

Just go on a quest to slay an ancient evil for your waifu. It's the same thing.

>>15646200

>t. Varg

>>15646256

>Because there were always goddesses throughout human history all over the world.

>A lack of masculine gods is because masculine features are usually considered unpleasant to the eye.

What about the greeks? They had both male and female gods.

>>15646735

>being afraid of spiderbros

Spiders eat all sorts of pests, they are great.

>>15646748

I know I love spiders but they are bioengineered to be the creepiest looking things on the fucking planet.

>>15646770

I find the third one much cuter than the others.

>>15646099

Japanese don't actually believe in it since the end of WW2, though. For them it's more of a cultural thing, not a spiritual one.

>>15646419

>This spiritual system found in Japan does away with this needless conflict and allows development.

First of all, there was shitloads of religious conflict in Japan, second of all, Japan was a fucking medieval backwater until they started copying western tech so this "development" you talk about is nonsense, third of all war and conflict are necessary for humanity to function in the long term, otherwise they're doomed to decadence and stagnation.

>>15646186

>and then they make you kill him

>>15646256

>A lack of masculine gods is because masculine features are usually considered unpleasant to the eye.

>T. someone who grew up without a Father figure.

Go be a nigger somewhere else.

>>15646605

Yes, materialistic rationality that brought ideologies that poison men's minds like communism, careless use of industry that causes the poisoning of the earth, which has foolishly invented weapons capable of wiping us clean, which has bred whole generations of people like yourself who are disgusted by their own traditional culture and wish to see it wiped away, which feeds the scum of the world so that we will be eventually overwhelmed by the unwashed hordes. The belief that to avoid any discomfort, pain, or death is the paramount purpose of a human being and in so doing throw away all the parts of humanity that don't dwell in cowardice.

The middle ground of fusing ancient wisdom with scientific understanding never occurs to the modern rationalist, so sure of his intellect being superior to all that came before, and so we wait for Babel to fall, a principle of the universe that people understood through blood and sweat long ago, and which people took time from struggling to survive in order to pass down through thousands of years only for a child to wipe his ass with it in brainwashed arrogance, while the masters of his world look on smiling, knowing that he is now a neutered tool.

>>15646190

What's wrong with it?

>>15645899

>wanting a big hunk of a man as a god rather than an absolute qt of a waifu-ess

>>15646922

>tfw best zelda in worst legend of zelda game

>>15646936

Arrogant pride allows corruption, yes, that's the gist of it.

>>15645959

Yeah and as we all know females create children all on their own!

>>15647002

>it's a symbolic thing

It is ignoring that females are incapable of having children on their own and incompetent in surviving or taking care of those children on their own. A female (womb) is more accurately represented as a receiver, not a creator. Such as the earth being mother (womb.)

>>15647023

>pretty much you dipshit

More like not at all, retard.

>With humans and most of the animal life female are the ones who sacrifice themselves in order to raise the offspring whiles whiles males are out in the world.

>women

>sacrifice

Having to watch children and do some chores isn't sacrifice. Animal females may be like that, but that just highlights a difference between humans and much of the lower animals.

>>15647020

You're putting way too much thought into this.

>>15647026

>that looks pleasing

Looks fucking nasty, there's a difference between muscle and way too much muscle.

>>15647030

>You're putting way too much thought into this.

Not at all, since female goddess shit and in particular mother goddess shit has historical come with a version of feminism subverting human nature. I do not support twisted viewpoints such as:

>mothers create their children :D

When they need help in that and to even survive for the 9 month period they are pregnant. It is interesting that of all creatures on the earth female humans are the most helpless during pregnancy. Perhaps to keep them from getting uppty about their "creation of life."

>>15646605

oh yes everything is much better now that we've abandoned nature, started eating poison and garbage, killing the unborn, mutilating our genitals, using science to alter our physical features, worked for our government until death, been forced into foreign wars…

good thing we abandoned god haha

>>15647029

It is a sacrifice because raising children are is an endeavor and women have "sacrificed" their body to the sole task of raising offspring. They are weak and dumb and have no practical aspirations because they are effectively baby factories. Thats why sexes exist, so one specializes in an area so the other isn't weighted down and can specialize in the other. By females sacrificing themselves they allow males to not care about raising offspring and can specialize in physical and mental capabilities. Men are strong because women are weak basically.

>>15647050

>They are weak and dumb and have no practical aspirations

So let's worship a deified human female! Or did you forget that was the point of this discussion?

>>15647060

Did /hgg/ make this picture?

>>15647054

>By females sacrificing themselves they allow males to not care about raising offspring and can specialize in physical and mental capabilities

>Men are strong because women are weak basically.

A female god would pretty much be sacrificing her existence to give birth to humanity and allowing them to prosper in her stead.

I don't see how that's bad.

Besides, it makes more sense to fight for a god that can't than to fight for a god that can but doesn't want to.

>>15647064

See the filename. It's reaaal old 4/fit/ stuff.

>>15646099

>primitive

>>15647068

All the pictures in the right parts come from a world with religion.

>>15647078

That's a good point. Anon should, in the future, endeavour to use choice wording so that they avoid this kind of autism.

>>15647066

>A female god would pretty much be sacrificing her existence to give birth to humanity and allowing them to prosper in her stead.

We are back to removing the male element so that the female in question can give birth on her own. Putting females on a pedestal has never been a good thing.

>>15647046

Not just abandoning god though, that's too narrow a focus, it's an abandonment of everything that came before. Religion, family, all sorts of traditional wisdom integral to human societies. Throwing away the foundation and thinking the house won't fall because we outgrew the need for it, as if our brains suddenly developed and not just our ability to manipulate matter. Probably inevitable though, one things leads to another and back again, as long as we don't make ourselves extinct before we relearn those lessons.

>>15647054

People worship aspects, an all male religion is as cancerous as an all female one. Yin and Yang one.

>>15647054

Because it honoring females for their sacrifice. You basically want to be selfish and not respect that which allows you to be strong.

I think Hitler himself said this: "The world of the woman is small, tiny compared to that of the man, but the man's world is built upon the foundation of the woman's world."

>>15647068

>Jews are a product of atheism.

Brilliant, every time.

>>15647090

>jews

>atheists

same shit, different toilet

>>15646972

Has there ever been a vessel of insanity as obvious as this?

>>15647093

Quality argument, bucko. And we should ignore that Christians are the ones who put Jews in power in the first place?

>>15647099

Not to mention the absolutely batshit evangelicals you get these days.

>>15647090

>>You basically want to be selfish and not respect that which allows you to be strong.

>if you don't worship a female deity you don't respect women!

What a feminist attitude.

>I think Hitler himself said this: "The world of the woman is small, tiny compared to that of the man, but the man's world is built upon the foundation of the woman's world."

I have no problem with respecting mothers within context. I do have a problem with affording them undue respect or pretending like the children they birth are their children only.

>>15647120

Triangles are dicks.

DICKS.

In fact, military rank with the stripes denotes how many FUCKING DICKS you have compared to the other guy.

All hail fucking obelisks and pyramids.

>>15647127

I'll never forget the first dick I got in the army.

>>15647120

>>15647127

Doesn't contradict the rest of my posts. Both worshiped respectively.

Also a cunt is an upside-down triangle. So next time you see a person wearing something with an arrow pointing downwards call him a sissy.

>>15647142

>doesn't contradict the rest of my posts

You defensive or something? Don't need to be contradicting your points to add to it.

>>15647120

Freudian anthropomorphism is another sad byproduct of materialistic rationalism.

>>15647144

nice Jure

>>15646099

>One the most technologicaly developed countries in the world

>japan

why weeb so delusional

>>15647158

Are you going to start talking about fax machines now?

>>15647170

>those hips

>there is one sack but there are two completely separate balls

>everything is sexual

Then why consider it as a phallus in the first place you wank?

>>15647170

>>Yes, muscles can make a man look cool but when too big they just look fucking comedic.

Nah man, that's just because they're obviously fake. It's like the guys in Brazil who inject shit into their muscles to inflate them.

>>his balls don't intersect

Nah.

>>15647175

You responded to the wrong person.

>>15647177

>he doesn't inject pure shit into his muscles

That is true though I'd just prefer to have a mildly toned body rather than full on super human muscles.

>>15647186

Well you do have to consider the caloric intake and general upkeep necessary for something like that.

But ideals, mang.

>>15647064

>>15647072

It's actually from an art tips blog.

>>15646446

These are all different words you retard.

you guys know "god" isnt real right? dawkins disproved god YEARS ago.

>>15646099

Really the only reason they became technological developed is because they raided trade ships and stole their tech.

>>15646770

Fucking gross! why do I have a boner now?

>>15646952

>Why not have more goddesses?

Because females are inherently irrational, and placing them on a pastille is how you get shit like feminism

>>15647207

Yeah, but most of the issues with english can be blamed on the french and modern retards misusing words so often that it changes the definition.

>>15645905

8/10

>>15647229

Except you don't just place any arbitrary woman on a pedestal. You place a woman with the qualities you desire.

>>15647265

In fiction, sure. In real life that's unfiltered bugman/cuck shit.

>>15646419

>and allows development

I hate to break it to you but Japan has historically been extremely poor in terms of development, and extremely rich in conflict.

Take for example the so often bizarrely admired folding method they use. A method which was invented in multiple European nations as early as their bronze ages to remove impurities, and was typically abandoned by them as they entered their respective iron ages in favor of twisting the metal in a corkscrew shape to hammer out impurities more efficiently than folding allowed. A method which in itself was eventually abandoned as smelting techniques improved to the point of making this method obsolete.

The Japanese on the other hand? Still folding to this day. And no, this is not explained by "poor quality iron" as plenty of nations in Europe had that problem as well, or before that had issue with very poor quality copper and tin.

>>15647265

>You place a woman with the qualities you desire.

Except that's literally never how it happens, even as far back as Hephaestus and Aphrodite, female goddesses have been shit. They either cuck you like Aphrodite, or they never sleep with you at all like Hera. Even Amaterasu ran and hid in a cave, causing the sun to not shine for days on end plunging the world into darkness and preventing crops from growing because she had her fee fees hurt because her brother called her out for being a cheating bitch. (The challenge was to make gods out of each others items, he made 5 gods from her necklace, she only made 3 goddesses form his sword, but she claimed she won because women are better than men. Yes really)

Also she only came out of the cave after a slutty goddess stripteased for her outside of the cave.

>>15647229

No one forced you to steal words from the French.

You did that on your own, adding new pronunciation exceptions to boot. It's all your own fault.

>>15647329

Conversely, the West has been worse than Japan in some areas.

>>15647345

True. Especially as of recent.

>>15647342

>No one forced you to steal words from the French.

Except they did? The french tried to take england a ton of times and whenever they got a foothold they made speaking English the "poor man's language" it's why we have different words for things like cow and beef, or pig and pork. The farmers used the middle english (borderline german) words "picg" and once it was cut up and sold and put on a rich fuckers table they used the french "porc".

It's also why we have so many swear words. Most swears come from old english/german words.

TL;DR everything wrong with the English language can be blamed on the french

>>15646715

>God-Man comic

My nigga!

>>15647332

This is why you only worship the fertility goddess. She's too busy doing mother things to worry about slutting around. Or the autistic one like Athena.

A lot of people are mentioning Amaterasu, but i think Athena is a important influence too.

On that topic, does anyone else find strange how Hades is represented as some sort of ultimate evil in Japan too?

>>15647368

The question there though is WHY. We know for certain that the only reason English has different words for the animal and the meat is because the french invaded and basically forced the English to speak french. Before the french started shitting on the English they basically spoke German. Modern English is basically a bastardization of a Germanic language (Old English) and a romantic language (French.) Which is what leads to the contradictions. Slavic languages don't really enter the equation here.

>>15647375

I have yet to hear of a fertility goddess that isn't a dindu tier land whale slut.

>>15647359

Spanish also has different names for the meat and the animal.

Regardless, it doesn't sound like the same issue I'm talking about. Pork and beef are consistent with English standard pronunciation rules. I'm talking about words like melee. Other languages usually adapt foreign words by modifying them so they fit what they sound like according to the language's pronunciation rules (for example, "football" adapted to "fútbol" in Spanish). For some bizarre reason, English doesn't do that, and spelling of certain words ends up being needlessly confusing and full of exceptions. Its why you have spelling contests for kids when other languages don't.

>>15647389

It's the same way in the West. I think it has to do with Hercules (the movie) rather than actual mythology. Although Hades was a dick sometimes. He did kidnap some poor woman and tried to force her into being his wife.

>>15647391

>Aras are land whale sluts

Only niggers would think that. You've obviously never read anything about European fertility goddesses. A lot of the time fertility means soil, crops and nature. They also represent motherhood and virginity. Unless those are also somehow nigger tier things we shouldn't be concerned with.

>>15647401

>There is a difference between pregnant waifu and obese slut

some humans don't know that.

>>15647403

>spelling of certain words ends up being needlessly confusing and full of exceptions

Once again, blame the french. The way the french turn a verb into a past tense is by adding an -ed to the end. For example Jump -> Jumped. But in old english words it's by changing the ending of the word itself, not just tacking on a new ending. For example Swim -> Swam, not Swimmed.

>>15647404

European "fertility goddesses" aren't fertility goddesses, they are multi faceted goddesses and fertility just so happens to be one of their aspects. If you talk about a fertility goddesses, then odds are you're talking about a nigger tier fatty whose soul purpose is to have big tits and a blubbery ass so the ooga boogas can jerk off to pictures of it.

>>15647401

She's worshiped because she's an obese slut. Think about this rationally and you'll see

>pre-medieval era

>Not alot of food going around

>Someone actually has more than enough food to go around

>gorged herself that she's now a fat piece of shit

What does this mean? Clearly the women is fat and powerful and has food to spare. Better get on her good side.

>>15647404

> He did kidnap some poor woman and tried to force her into being his wife.

Nah man, Persephone was into it. She went willingly. Hades was a good dude (at least as far as Greek gods go), not the villain he's portrayed as. That came later with the whole "death is bad" thing which is just a non-Greek oversimplification and nothing to do with how the Greeks viewed the afterlife.

>>15647418

That also has nothing to do with pronunciation. The issue I'm talking about could've easily been solved by adapting "Melee" into "Maylay" or something like that. It doesn't make sense that you didn't do that. Even if they forced you to speak certain words, you didn't have to copy the spelling as well.

>>15646580

only subhumans are like that.

>>15647403

Spelling bees just become more confusing to me as time goes on. "Congratulations! You understand the words you speak!" Everything needs to have a needless competition now for some reason. I remember being forced to write about shit because there was some competition for writing some where. Although, I think those got me into wanting to write more than anything because half the time I would make up as much shit as possible to see what I could get away with. 100s every time.

>>15647418

Semantics then. Fertility gods as many would understand are the ones dealing with motherhood, nature and femininity. When you think "God of Fertility," do you honestly think of niggers ooga boogaing over shit or do you think of someone like Gaea, mother nature? The same way with War gods. They are never exclusively war Gods. Mars is honor, valor and sacrifice. Ares is cowardice and contempt. Athena is wisdom as well as strategy and battle. But you don't call them "honor valor sacrifice God." No, they're the God of War. You don't say "practitioner of stomach, head, lung and general well being for children," he's the Pediatrician. I'm surprised you don't understand a simple concept such as "abbreviation."

>>15647446

Sure. But I don't think Greeks actively worshiped the god of the Underworld. They just acknowledged his existence. They had far more love for a the gods of The Forge and Wisdom.

>>15647447

>you didn't have to copy the spelling as well.

Yes we did. They didn't try to make us add french words to the current language, they tried to make us speak french period. We do what you're referring to with new words. I mean we don't spell tsunami as "津波" we use our current language and adapt it to the new word. But the french didn't want that, they wanted to get rid of old/middle english all together and they said "no THIS is how you spell it you fucker. You speak french now."

>>15647332

Male gods are just as bad if not worse. How many mortal women did Zeus rape pregnant? Sure we got characters like Heracles out of them, but I'd say none of the gods of Olympus, for example, are exactly paragons of morality. The stories of Greek gods serve as good lessons to learn from. Not sure if that was the intention when these stories were made.

>>15647486

She has an ass on the front side of her.

>>15647502

You know what they say.

A fold is a fold

>>15647404

>in the west

Yeah, but in the west it's more understandable. Being the ruler of the underworld and all gives you quite a bit of overlap with Satan, which isn't exactly a good look. Japan, on the other hand, has been relatively generous with Satan

>Although Hades was a dick sometimes. He did kidnap some poor woman and tried to force her into being his wife.

He still allowed her to leave the underworld for up to 6 months. Comparatively speaking, that's just usual greek god stuff

>>15646715

>God-man, I don't feel so good

>>15647523

The land of the dead, Yomi, in Shinto is a pretty shit place. Same with the Buddhist (I think) jigoku hells. With that and death itself being seen as 'unclean' in the religion, I can see why'd think of Hades as a negative figure.

>>15647523

Yes, he's not a bad guy compared to say Zeus who regularly raped women and caused general chaos for no fucking reason other than it was a slow day and he was bored. A lot of the gods are fine as long as you don't fuck with them. The only one that I can think of that actively cared for humanity was Athena, but she was just the autistic daughterfu of Zeus.

>>15646923

There's a lot of shill newposters here, but I'm glad to see someone put it better than I did.

>>15647594

Evolutionism is not retarded, atheism is, don't do the devil trick of mixing things that don't need to be mixed.

>evolution isnt a thing

Ah, so the /christian/ subhumans have arrived.

>>15647618

If evolution is a thing, why jews still exist?

>>15647619

>yet forfeits his soul?

being rational does not forfeit any "soul"

>>15647618

>believing in the religion of science

>>>/leftypol/

>>>/islam/

>>>/sci/

>>15647618

If you observe the study that anon posted above you, it specifically states that micro-evolutions and variations exist, but macro-evolution has never been observed, proven, demonstrated or has otherwise generated any proofs for beyond speculation since 1869.

>>15647625

the same reason other parasites still exist

>>15647625

Because they evolved into vile creature known as jew to survive after being shoah'd several times.

>>15647636

Yeah, because there is no evolution.

>>15647634

If science isn't real, how did you just make that post?

>>15647651

Human ingenuity, conferred to them by God. Do you also use science to think?

>>15647632

Dude get this in your fucking head, no human is rational, I can say something rational : 2+2=4, but that's me happening to have said something rational, not me BEING that rationality, I do not embody anything but the concept of humanity and a human is not rational just like an apple can happen to have a worm in it, the worm is not part of the apple, it happens to be there.

In other words, some things we do are rational, but we are not, believing we are rational is one of the most irrational thing you can think and will only lead you to lies and ruin.

>>15647650

>needing nihilism to fap to loli

<fapping to loli and justifying it at all

What kind of terrible pit of entryism did you just crawl out of?

>>15647653

If it wasn't for science, there would be no computers.

>>15647662

Prove it, faggot.

>>15647662

Do you think everyone besides you is dumb simply because you're not on the same wavelength with them, or something?

His statements aren't as simple as "lol prove the science, epic fail" you spook.

Lend some perspicuity to your fucking reading comprehension once in life time or go fuck a dog somewhere.

>>15647666

>>15647674

This is your brain on religious extremism.

>>15646674

Hey, what can I say. When you don't take a few minutes to research something and get angry, all sorts of dumb things are said

>>15647678

I'm irreligious you perfidious nigger. Now quit pretending you're smart and go back to your gay solipsism forum.

>>15647678

>y-you're just an extremist! I don't have to listen to anything that remotely challenges my beliefs!

This is your brain on science.

>>15647683

I didn't express any beliefs. If it wasn't for science, we wouldn't have computers. That's just a fact. It's you who has beliefs.

>>15647653

>>15647662

Science is but a method, often when you hear "Scientists have said" people start to believe it as if it was the word of God, "Scientists have said" doesn't imply the use of the scientific method at all, the scientific method is also often abused, like doing an experiment over and over again until you get the result you want, peer review it by you friends who all quote each other to gain authority and then publish it and then you try to reproduce the experiment and you get vastly different results because they didn't control for all variables and they are basically a bunch of corrupt shit eating tax dollars.

>>15647690

>>Science

>>religion

you mean it isn't?

>>15647690

Too add it uses the pathetic argument "its complex SO THERE MUST BE AN INTELLIGENCE THAT MADE IT"

>>15647696

Science has nothing to do with religion or is absence. Science is a collection of facts or theories based on observations of the world. You could just as easily say God created science, you fucking dimwit.

>>15647691

>That's just a fact.

That you believe in as religiously as someone believes in God.

>>15647690

Yeah I don't really expect much from a site that looks like something made through TempleOS, and their examples were also flawed since when they were listing the complex mechanisms in the average human being, they were playing it up like "oh, how could nature possibly create something so divinely inspired?!", but the main point is that nobody's presented proof of animals mutating or "evolving" properly without immediately going sterile like a mule, on the grand stage.

I'll give up on the conversation since the fucktard crowd has appeared to shit all over this already horribly derailed thread, and go do something else.

>>15647704

I'm using a computer right now and so are you.

>>15646407

Every god in a polythiest religion has a sex, usually even when they're monsters. The mythology invariably involves them fucking and giving birth. Even the Christian god is masculine

>>15647709

You're actually one of those "le power of science" 9gaggers that thought they'd find some amazing memes here to gain upvotes from the source, aren't you? Seriously, go die.

>>15647696

Science is a method used to collect information, you utter tool, and nothing more than that. Science is also designed to be rewritten and changed.

>>15647709

So what?

>"If it wasn't for science, we wouldn't have computers."

Are you going to tell me that's not a belief?

>>15647712

You are using a computer to post on a global network of computers and you are denying that you are using a computer. Then how are you making these posts, how are others reading these posts, and where are these posts stored?

>>15647715

Yes.

>>15647712

this science is a fucking LARP and playing with expensive toys to see what happens, nothing else

scientists are leftist by default because they are weak and rarely do any work by hand. they need society to survive

>>15647704

You don't believe in the, you know them, because they are backed up by evidence. Religion is based on faith, science is based on fact. Get it?

>>15647718

>you are denying that you are using a computer.

He isn't. But if that allows you to deflect the argument and avoid inconvenient thoughts, so be it.

>>15647718

>>15647720

Can both of you please fuck off and never come to 8chan ever again? It's like I'm looking at a string of fucking facebook posts.

>>15647720

And do you think that blue collar workers aren't using tools that only exist because of science and society?

>>15647725

He is denying that he is using a computer.

>>15647727

go back to reddit fucking fedoralord

>>15647727

Why are you trying to blame this on me?

>>15647718

He's not saying he's not using a computer. He's denying your faith based belief that if it weren't for the modern "muh science" movement we wouldn't have computers.

>>15647728

>He is denying that he is using a computer.

No, you just have no concept of anything outside of your Dawkins approved thought bubble

>>15647733

He doesn't like serious discussion.

>>15647703

No, science is a method, if you call a fact a scientific fact, that means that fact was obtained through the scientific method, mere observations of the world is not science, you need to be able to reproduce the results to confirm it and the scientific method is the best way of controlling the variables to be able to reproduce results to then prove the theory. Everyday I feel people are trying to destroy both religion and science, to simply make away with existing religion, and make the idea of science replace religion which does destroy science and leave us with only an inferior religion.

>>15647731

You're a stupid fucking nigger who is incapable of reading IDs.

>>15647733

You're a stupid fucking nigger who is incapable of doing anything other than sniffing their own fucking farts

Both of you go fucking die.

>>15647741

>He's denying your faith based belief that if it weren't for the modern "muh science" movement we wouldn't have computers.

That's not a "faith based belief," that's a fact.

>No, you just have no concept of anything outside of your Dawkins approved thought bubble

I never said anything about Dawkins and never expressed any kind of thought bubble.

>>15647745

How am I stupid? How am I a nigger? Why should I die?

>>15647745

*tips fedora*

>>15647745

>You're a stupid fucking nigger who is incapable of doing anything other than sniffing their own fucking farts

The epitome of fedora logical™ skeptical™ arguments here lads.

>>15647749

You have zero reading comprehension, you're an insufferable would-be know-it-all running entirely anathema to the spirit of imageboards trying to shitpost one-liners like you're going to get upvotes here. Kill yourself.

>>15647749

>that's a fact.

It isn't. You need to prove it.

I could say "if Turing hadn't existed we wouldn't have computers" but I'd like you to find a way to back this up that doesn't rely on beliefs.

>>15647756

What is any of this supposed to be based on?

>>15647757

It is a fact.

>>15647760

That you unquestionably believe in.

>>15647763

It has nothing to do with beliefs.

>>15647766

How so?

>>15647768

Because it's a fact.

>>15647768

Facts are known, not believed.

>>15647772

You could be mistaken.

>>15647758

I did not deny that I was using a computer and have never denied it, unlike your claim here >>15647718.

Your argument stems from the pathetically infantile notion that your opponent "doesn't believe science israel" here >>15647651

like it's some metaphysical concept or something, when in actuality you're arguing with something you've made up in your own fucking brain so you don't actually have to engage in an argument, like a fucking mongoloid.

>>15647753

Go double space your writing on mars, you illiterate homosexual.

>>15647777

wasted quads, reported

>>15647775

Evidence?

>>15647776

Evidence. Provide counter evidence. Provide proof that an omnipotent intelligence exists.

>>15647765

No, but it's fun to see how triggered this Rational™ Skeptic™ is getting

>>15647777

We wouldn't have computers without science. That's a fact. If you don't like it, go live naked in the woods.

>>15647784

>I don't understand what you said therefore muh computers

Not that I'd expect you to understand since you're the subject of a cargo cult of things you can't understand, anyway.

>>15647781

Where's the evidence to the contrary?

>>15647792

We wouldn't have computers without science and there's nothing you can do about it.

>>15647781

What's your evidence for the statement "we wouldn't have computers without science"?

Note that we have evidence for "with science we have computers".

>>15647783

>Being a a fence shitter.

>>15647788

This does not prove god. Its the logical fallacy of equating something unexplained with God. Lack of explanation doesn't prove god. Plus all that bullshit anyway.

>>15647796

>What's your evidence for the statement "we wouldn't have computers without science"?

Because the current explanation has no evidence to the contrary.

>>15647793

>evidence to the contrary

That's not how it works. You're persisting something exists, the burden of proof is on you.

>>15647795

I am not arguing that, you fucking pea-brained cocksucker. I'm arguing that you're a dumb, illiterate mongoloid who can't properly argue so they put everyone they don't like into a "convenient strawman" box so you don't actually have to respond to what they're saying, you just respond to what you think they're saying because you're too stupid to actually fucking understand what they're saying, you mouth-breathing retard.

>>15647810

>I'm arguing that you're a dumb, illiterate mongoloid

Says the moron who thinks we'd have computers without science.

>>15647781

>Evidence?

<Being so autistic you don't get the joke.

<I even included a meme face to show you I was mocking you and not being serious.

>>15647783

A christian was like "yeah all the pagan religions are really weird" to which Fedora-man replied by saying "hurr durr all religions are irrational, get fucked christcucks :D"

This obviously started the shitshow we're on now. Long story short though, it's because Fedora's can't not sperg out about how only they can truly comprehend the majesty of dawkins or something.

>>15647810

The evidence is in the fact that its a universal constant that all forms of man somehow came to the same conclusion of "a being above me made the world" and nothing realistic has come up to counter this fact.

>>15647814

That wasn't me, that was

>>15647653, note the different fucking IDs you cuckchanner.

>>15647809

>Because the current explanation has no evidence to the contrary.

There is also no evidence that there is no God.

>>15647820

Computers wouldn't exist without science, cuckchanner.

>>15647734

You have my attention. What exactly does fresh tissue/blood in dinosaur bones prove? To be specific, how does it prove that humans and dinosaurs coexisted?

Good dump, by the way. "Fukken saved" as they say.

>>15647825

I've gotta admit I wasn't expecting such blatant logical errors from "muh science" proponents.

>>15647818

>a universal constant

>that is only recently observed

Okay. And before this is was believed that the earth being flat was a universal constant, what's your point? There's obviously some political agenda propping up darwinism, even before its merits if it has any, which I am not arguing for, but you can't assert something without evidence. In this way, creationism is only asserted in creationist communities and nobody else really cares.

>>15647818

This proves that the idea of a god makes sense, but doesn't prove the actual existence of one.

>>15647832

> earth being flat was a universal constant,

No it wasn't you dumbfuck, it was believed because some jew book said it;

quite a few other religions did not believe in such a thing.

>>15647838

The point being your "universal constant" is fucking relative, and is being asserted without fucking proof. So bring proofs or macro-evolution, gaylord.

>>15647838

prove that earth isn't flat without resorting to fish lenses or photoshopped NASA images cuck

>>15647842

>as long as there is evidence provided

Why do you believe you'd be able to comprehend such evidence if presented with it if we're talking about a higher being outside our control to begin with?

>>15647846

Isn't there a LOL thread for you to shitpost in right now?

>>15647831

That's the world we're living in today, Science is the new term used by the ignorant to cover their own lack of knowledge because they think it covers them, just like the ignorant used to use Religion as their fix-all answer for things they didn't understand. "Science" or I should say Pseudo-science is the new Religion of the day.

>>15647850

And that is based completely on the assumption he does exist. Its literally "dude, trust me". Its what a said, faith vs fact. You BELIEVE so, you don't KNOW so. I do realize Christianity is based on "dude, trust me" and for dude, trusing you get into heaven.

>>15647844

How about the part where even the fucking Khoisans(a race from the fucking ice age) have gods.

Its a constant thats been observed for every race we know of.

Also what did my post have to do with macro-evolution?

>>15647868

>And that is based completely on the assumption he does exist

Well if you cannot get to the desired solution by going the "he doesn't exist route" you'd need to go the other way and assume he does and then either prove or disprove it that way.

And that's only if you can comprehend what you're trying to prove or disprove which it the actual dilemma here.

>>15647874

If it's code as you're saying, why does that mean there needs to be somebody writing it?

>>15647878

No, because there is no proof. You don't simply assume something exist without proof.

>>15646605

Even very basic scrutiny destroys your position. Almost everyone who accomplished those wonderful things in the enlightenment was Christian. Voltaire, Isaiah newton, Shakespeare, Davinci. The enlightenment was not a rejection of religion that’s a meme pushed by the modern left.

If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent Him.

>>15647891

>ou don't simply assume something exist without proof.

>what is dark matter

We have to assume dark matter exists because our equations end up lacking mass that we cannot explain. We HAVE to assume it without being able to prove or recreate it right now.

Until we can disprove/prove its existence we'll have to work with the assumption.

>>15647898

>implying this is my assertion

>implying you're not doing just this

to quoque faggot.

More often than not whenever a JRPG has a male god, you end up killing him. Strange.

>>15647900

That mean is simply is a theory. You just said God is merely a theory. However there are no " equations" that suggest God. You argument is that everything we don't know and/or haven't found an explanation for is God. Which a fallacy. Because the lack of evidence for one is not proof for another.

>>15647907

Yeah but at least the fight's usually really cool.

>>15647911

>windows is biology

Take that plug out of your ass, it's not a USB port.

>>15647900

>We have to assume dark matter exists because our equations end up lacking mass that we cannot explain.

or maybe the equation is just wrong

>>15647783

>Why do Christniggers and Fedoratippers always shit up threads?

Because, some people didn't got memo that religion is like penis. You can have it or not, but you shouldn't shove your genitals on someone's face.

Now I will make this thread completely unsalvageable.

I always thought that entire Earth's life was brought here by ayys.

>>15647112

>praising the grandmaster of ouroboros

>>15647933

That's actually a pretty fun line of reasoning to follow, if for nothing else other than memes.

How'd you come to that conclusion? Just figured it's the most plausible choice or something?

>>15647972

>What are they, dumb?

aren't they kike-infiltrated?

>>15647975

God created aliens who subsequently created humans. Disprove this.

>>15647989

It's not like every single human on earth in academia is a soulless shabbos goy, you know?

Like 49% of the scientific community thinks man-made climate change is bullshit.

>>15647919

>You just said God is merely a theory

It is. You can choose to believe in the theory of god and the "being". But our concept of a being might not be applicable on something like the concept of a god so even if you disprove god as a being that does not entirely disprove god.

>You argument is that everything we don't know and/or haven't found an explanation for is God

Not really, no. God is an assumption or theory as you called it. While if proven/disproven could lead to other revelations related to it, it does not mean it has to.

>>15647924

>or maybe the equation is just wrong

Very possible. But those equations are based on our current understanding of things like mass and gravity. If we've already gotten those wrong then we'd have to start over from scratch, which wouldn't prove or disprove the theory of dark matter, just delay the answer.

>>15647972

>People getting government/cabal paychecks would have no reason to go against what the government wants them to say.

>>15647975

I'm not saying that aliens are gods. I'm saying that God is an alien. If that makes sense it doesn't

If you define an alien as a living entity that is foreign to the earth, and you aren't some nature worshiping hippy. Then by definition you could consider God to be an "alien"

>>15647946

>How'd you come to that conclusion?

<Why not creation?

There wouldn't be so much fossils in that case.

<Why not evolution?

Because I always thought evolution into higher forms would take more time after each advancement, but considering geology research it somehow went faster instead.

>>15647961

They probably were same thing.

>>15647965

K.

>>15648070

>There wouldn't be so much fossils in that case.

<There used to be more types of life than there are now

<Thinks Creationism means things can't go extinct

>>15648070

>but considering geology research it somehow went faster instead

Thats because there is a lot more DNA which means a much higher chance of mutation.

>>15648065

>>15647900

>We have to assume dark matter exists because our equations end up lacking mass that we cannot explain.

>>15647924

>or maybe the equation is just wrong

>>15647972

>Of course, how could those stupid astrophysicist faggots not think of that. What are they, dumb?

>>15648004

>>People getting government/cabal paychecks would have no reason to go against what the government wants them to say.

Review this chain of conversation and show me the part where I strawmanned you. Maybe you came in on the "scientists don't know shit" ticket, but based on where you came in it sure looked like the "Dark Matter is a meme" ticket to me. For the record both tickets are retarded and for people pretended they know more than they do.

>>15648036

God loves mankind, and also loves games. Blessed are those who put Him in vidya. Usually as the last boss, but there have been a few playable gods.

Never forget Fight of Gods, which proves once and for all Jesus is the greatest of all. (Except Zeus, but only scrubs pick Zeus)

This thread is very video games. :^)

>>15648107

>>>/vg/

>>15648115

thanks doc

>>15648094

I never implied that the government is paying people off to keep quite about dark matter or something. I'm saying that anyone that gets a paycheck to run X equations has a vested interested in keeping the system of thought supporting X equations. It's simple confirmation bias and greed, not some illuminati bullshit.

Besides let's say some astrophysicist decided to say that the equations were wrong and wanted to look into different stuff, he would be laughed out by his pears and lose any credibility. Saying we should trust astrophysicists on dark matter because they're experts in the field is like saying we should trust Catholic priests on Christianity because they're experts in the field.

Modern "scientists" have a vested interest in keeping the status quo, just like paid clergy.

>>15648156

>then jews wouldn't exist

God wants us to get stronger.

No strength is gained without pain

Therefore he allows pain (and jews) to exist

>>15648156

If God is omnipotent why does evil exist?

>>15648164

Why didn't he just make us strong? Why did he make us at all?

>>15648171

I think it was already mentioned in this thread. If we as humans felt no suffering and were forever content with the world then there'd be nothing but stagnation and degeneracy left. Evil exists so as to hone our strength, so that we may come out of it wiser than when we came in.

>why did he make us at all?

He wants to see his children flourish. But like I said earlier, no child that had an easy upbringing ever became an honorable man.

>>15648107

Just 10 more replies and it will bumplocked anyway.

>>15648086

<There used to be more types of life than there are now

I am aware of this.

<Thinks Creationism means things can't go extinct

I didn't implied that anywhere.

>>15648089

Didn't consider that one.

>>15648100

>Fossils and sedimentary layers point towards a global flood.

It probably was much earlier than geologists think. However I am unable to determine exactly when that happened.

>Clams are found on top of mountains.

Those areas could be under sea in earlier ages.

Everything else is worthy to note.

>>15648167

>Sorry, I just had to do it

Lol, it's fine fam. I'm tired and make lots of typos when I get sleepy.

>I'm surprised this thread is still up

It's because mods don't care. /v/ and 8ch as a whole are being eaten by normalfags, just like 4chan was.

>>15648171

>Why didn't he just make us strong?

Because power that is given but not earned is never truly your own. Also the understanding what you had to go through to get the strength is a strength in and of itself.

Since we're on /v/ I'll use a vidya simile. It's like an old RTS game, true you CAN just activate all the cheat codes and win, but the victory feels hollow. If you do it yourself, no cheats, then it feels different. More satisfactory.

>>15648171

>Why did he make us at all?

That's a debatable subject I'm not going to get into right now.

>>15648194

And why does God have to have children?

>>15648189

Evolution requires time. Thats why its so hard to replicate, but it has been done on a small scale.

>>15648225

>why does God have to HAVE children?

He probably didn't, but chose to.

>it has been done on a small scale

No

>>15648225

Plus evolution at this point is a phenomena not simply isolated to life.

>>15648232

>He probably didn't, but chose to.

Even worse, why did he do so?

>No

kek

>>15648239

>why did he do so?

Heck if I know. Why do some people like blueberries more than blackberries? Why does anyone do anything?

For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

Isaiah 55:9

>>15647858

If indeed it is the case that dinosaurs coexisted with man, then when was the stopping point? Did they all become extinct so soon? If they died because humans hunted them down, then how come we don't see any human tools/clothing/etc. made from dinosaur parts?

>>15648259

Just like parents are smarter than 2 year olds. God is smarter than us. How is that difficult for you to comprehend?

>>15648252

> If they died because humans hunted them down, then how come we don't see any human tools/clothing/etc. made from dinosaur parts?

And how come none were domesticated?

>>15648351

Anon, nothing here proves anything about the bible.

>>15646350

You mean: the obvious conclusion is he didn't know what animism is.

>people so deep into the /r9k/ woman-hating meme that they can't appreciate having a divine figure that represents the ideal woman

>other people who can't admit that the male body an be aesthetically pleasing without being attracted to it because they're afraid of catching the gay

Gayest thread on the board

>>15647783

garl is super easy if you just counter/riposte

>>15648156

Even a goddess needs to get dicked or they go crazy

>>15648156

She gets better. Paradox Illias is MGQ Illias somehow. I'm not quite sure how that works, but it is the same character, and not some alternate timeline one like the in the opening of Paradox.

>>15645959

>To be honest a female god would make more sense than a male one, since the act of creating humanity can be an allegory for a mother giving birth to children.

No, God puts the seed into Nature. Hence God the Father and Mother Nature.

We are born from nature but destined to the stars.

>>15645899

It was always an easy way to get around christians whining about portrayals of capital-G God. Since God isn't female, clearly they're just worshipping someone else, therefore christians don't have to feel offended by any portrayals of the god-figure or their priests.

>>15646419

Buddhism and Shintoism were used to justify all sorts of retarded violence throughout Asian history. If you want details, the Ikko Ikki Buddhists of Japan often whipped up theocratic rebellions against the secular governors, while Shintoism was the justification for loyalty to the Emperor up until the Shoguns turned the establishment of the 'son of heaven' into a political game that clans killed each other over. So no, it was just as bloody as shit like the Cathar eradications in the west, you're just refusing to see it because you have a romanticized view of how Japan's history played out.