/v/ - Video Games

>>15644524

even better.

Ya but it'ss gay your forced into matchmaking for hallowen items

>>15644560

holy shit this, it's ok for regular drops because otherwise the game is full of russian bots bringing the price of refined even further down but halloween items are untradeable and unmarketable.

Speaking of, 60 ref for a key.

Thanks jews.

>>15644571

Why did you tell him, I was having fun.

>>15644591

like 90% of refined is in dead account/bots, and key have been basically useless for 3 years. curbing drops on real players would have like, 0 effect on the pricing of anything because the game's rigged

>15644512

Poorly made community maps that crash more often than not, try playing Slasher.

>>15644591

>60 ref for a key

What the fuck?

It's mostly fun but especially when I get to teleport behind the enemy team with my market gardener. Wish i could go back to 2011, when this was all new.

>>15644981

It's around 40 ref at the moment.

Yeah I'm not interested in getting fucked by all the good weapons until they finally drop for me as well. Not to mention that in old games like TF2 those players that are still left, after all these years, are absolute monsters.

>>15645173

Every competitive game should have both a ranked matchmaking ladder and a lobby system, as well as allowing player-run servers.

>>15644975

Are you upset that you used it too much or that you didn't spell it though?

>>15645227

>muh competitive

You are the cancer.

>>15645345

try verifying the integrity of the game cache.

>>15645336

>completing secondary objectives

>when they do literally nothing

you tortured yourself.

>>15645349

Did that. Also did a full uninstall and reinstall. Nothing helped.

>>15645227

Competitive matchmaking sure, but there should not be casual matchmaking. Casual play should only have server browser. Casual matchmaking sends a confusing message about what the gamemode is really about (like in Overwatch, where casual is like competitive where you are rewarded for doing well but none of the punishments for trolling or not trying at all). It also results in almost nobody using the server browsing if you include both, since most people are brainless and won't use server browser if they don't have to.

>>15645227

>ranked matchmaking

Absolute cancer.

>>15644512

>The style may be ugly during halloween

It's ugly all the fucking time now.

tf2 is garbage since the polycount update

>>15644512

It's just less fun than it used to be.

I swear, the performance gets worse with every update.

>>15645345

I crash everytime the game coordinator has a disconnect, that's often. Or, it's the game memory leaking its way up to 3GB.

>>15646561

Every Scream Fortress past 2015 has been a performance drop, along with TF2 being broke again. 2016 as an example, removed cl_threaded_bone_setup.

>>15644546

Honestly, with how much unused content they have on workshop and how many mappers making maps for the game, they can pretty much turn this game into a new Warframe. If only they gave a fuck.

>>15646301

Fucking /thread

>>15646955

>decide to play tf2 again

>queue into one of the new maps

>the whole map is terribly designed

>cosmetic clutter everywhere so you never know where exactly to look

>characters look like pixies and every single pixie looks the same

i haven't played it since the orange box release, is it really that shit/unbalanced now? i feel like trying it again assuming the "meta's" still the same, i can't really fathom their being new weapons and shit considering each class had it's distinct pros and cons

>>15647005

>he doesnt know

m8 they'res a load of new weapons since you last played it

>>15647089

i was going to ask more but it seems like there's so much that's been added/changed i'll need to just play it and see for myself, shame as well cause it was a pretty fun game to fuck about in back then

>>15647005

TF2 was never balanced and I would go as far as say the game is even more unbalanced back then than it is now.

What has happened though is any hope that Valve would make sensible changes to the game that address the balancing issues had long since been lost when they just kept on throwing more and more poorly thought out shit to the game causing things to become more and more of a mess. A number of classes in the game are now basically balanced around the assumption they having access to certain weapons as well which Valve should never have allowed to become the case.

This is also a really big problem because it also means people can't even try making TF2 mods that fix all this shit without having big debates, because there is so much damn clutter that people can't agree on what should and shouldn't go.

>Loch-n-Load has 2 barrels

>Update changed ammo capacity to 3

>2 barrels

>3 shots

It still bothers me.

>>15647198

ITT: people who have <500 hours in TF2

TF2 is more balanced than it's ever been. You could look at the competitive whitelist, but a lot of those decisions are "We're not sure how effective this is, so we better just ban it." Which is why a relatively weak weapon, like the Air Strike, might be banned but something like the Liberty Launcher isn't.

There are some arguments you could make about scout or sniper being overpowered, and those are the ones that I'd say are pretty true. Scout can do INSANE damage, and have INSANE mobility. But because he's so difficult to play, he's usually considered balanced.

>>15647235

Because reducing the magazine capacity by 50% when the only real advantage is slightly faster pills and more building damage (when stock can already do way more with a full magazine) made it really weak.

I was only pissed when they increased it to 3 but left the +20% general damage bonus on it.

>>15645173

TF2's community servers killed themselves.

Would you rather play:

TF2

or

24/7 badwater 100% crits instant respawn alltalk rtd noracism!!!!!!

>>15647262

>badwater

cp_orange*

>>15646955

>TF2 halloween then

>match with occasional spooky

>Win based on how good your team did

>TF2 now

>shit thrown striaght into the match, winner decided not by points capped, nor kills, but a shitty mini-game

>>15647277

>TF2 now

>shit thrown striaght into the match, winner decided not by points capped, nor kills, but a shitty mini-game

That was years ago, now it's more like:

>TF2 halloween now

>Boring community reskin map with shit thrown everywhere and 15 bosses spawn at once

>>15647309

>buds dropped that low

fuck me

>>15647262

Vanilla community servers died when shitmaking was added.

>tf2 is still fun

Thanks for your opinion shill-kun

>>15644512

i want fun servers to exist again. every server is for trade or is stuck on one map forever

Will /V/ ever have a stock TF2 server?

>>15647262

>TF2's community servers killed themselves.

No TF2's community servers got railroaded by Valve moving the browser more and more to the side creating an issue that didn't exist before (Ads on servers that were quickplay kosher). Also there was the issue of MaxOfSTD suing everyone because they made fun of him for inflatable pyro titties.

>>15649078

They used to but then they cried because everyone had Mercenary badges dated after the F2P update.

>>15651546

i wouldnt want me on my server either good call

>>15647242

>TF2 is more balanced than it's ever been. You could look at the competitive whitelist, but a lot of those decisions are "We're not sure how effective this is, so we better just ban it." Which is why a relatively weak weapon, like the Air Strike, might be banned but something like the Liberty Launcher isn't.

Ah yes, banning anything that could be remotely different or entertaining. That's the surefire way to prevent your meta from being stale.

>There are some arguments you could make about scout or sniper being overpowered, and those are the ones that I'd say are pretty true. Scout can do INSANE damage, and have INSANE mobility. But because he's so difficult to play, he's usually considered balanced

>implying playing Doom with a double jump is hard

This is why people who played shooters before 2005 don't think TF2 is enjoyable anymore.

>>15651764

Well to be fair. We are dealing with a community that thinks capture the flag is objectively bad because they don't like it and it doesn't play very well with 6v6

>>15651834

Competitive tf2 is a mistake. Part of the fun was the chaos of 16v16.

>>15651834

>>15651850

The fact Valve ever incorporated the balance of comp into the mainstream gamemodes was a fatal wound on itself.

is there a community filled with more carebear pussies than tf2? i swear tf2 players sit at the 80 iq level. every person you see on steam with hundreds of hours on tf2 is a shit head. hats killed tf2, team fortress was a competitive game. you're the invaders, you're the ones who are wrong. tf2 was meant to be a competitive game and was ruined by hats and autismos like in this thread who just want to have "fun" even though being a window licking retard isn't fun

>>15651870

Personally I don't get why they never released a TF:GO for the paint drinkers that joined up in like 2013 who've probably never played dm_mariokart

>>15651873

>muh competitive

You must be one of those guys who thinks everyone who isn't playing CPMA doesn't "deserve" to play Quake.

>>15651876

show me your hat collection, faggotron

>>15651873

competitive tf2 literally requires pocket medics because the game only gives the necessary freedom of movement to a single class: the scout

Otherwise you're dead from 2-4 rocket jumps/stickies

>>15651874

I don't get why paint drinkers exist in the first place. Here you have a great game that became a good game when the F2P fags hit, with 9 classes all with their intricacies(Maybe not the heavy but I admit I rarely played him), personalities and synergies with each other, and all these fucksticks want to do is trade hats because THIS ONE HAS A SHITTY PARTICLE EFFECT WOW

>>15651884

Show me your game collection, autist. Wait nevermind, I already know exactly what's in it.

Not everyone wants to play the same game for 2000 hours to master it. How the fuck am I supposed to get to other games on my backlog? The hallmark of every good "competitive" game is that it is also enjoyable in a non-competitive contest. Every single game that focuses solely on the competitive scene and uses that as a guideline is total shit.

>>15651895

Beyond the actual cancer (Geels Jewlord empire and the "62 Refined Key 2.49 is totally worth over a year of your time pay up goyim! Wait why is the economy dying?") trading isn't really an issue and it has and always quarantined itself to Achievement/Idle/Trade servers. Which Ironically Valve made worse with changes to trading and disadvantaging people playing community servers

>>15651902

show. me. your. hat. collection

>>15651913

Ah, I see I've activated your AIDS, AKA the Autistic (Re-)Iteration Defense System. I'll just leave you with the knowledge that you are, in fact, the reason that arena FPSes are now dead. So from the bottom of my heart, thanks for ruining it for us, you worthless, stodgy piece of shit.

>>15651926

you played hundreds, more likely thousands of hours of tf2 and have a bigger hat collection than a haberdasher. tf2's hats and loot boxes have done far greater damage than whatever you're accusing me of doing. you're a delusional hat collector

>>15651926

now show me your fuckin hats

>>15651940

you can't win so you resort to some kind of reverse psychological game where in your tiny hat collecting mind you win if i don't respond and lose if do. why can't you show me your fuckin hats, bro? just take a screen shot and show me your hat collection

>>15651945

>you can't win so you resort to some kind of reverse psychological game where you ask me to show you my hats I don't have

>>15651946

you're fooling no one except maybe yourself, hat collector. i know you have a humongous collection of hats. that's the only reason to be playing tf2. i have won this argument and will not be reading anymore of this thread. reply if you want, i won't see it. you lose i win

>>15651945

is this.. the legendary fountain of yous?

>>15651834

TF2’s CTF is shit though. Not from the competitive perspective but from the casual one. Just add a time limit and make it so the winning team is the one that captured the most flags before the timer hit zero. In fact, there has been a timer before the matchmaking was introduced. Additionally, making so that the team whose flag has been dropped can pick it up and carry it back to the base would greatly improve the pacing.

>tfw you have a huge list of ideas for TF2 in hopes that some day you’ll make a spiritual successor to it

>>15651873

>is there a community filled with more carebear pussies than tf2? i swear tf2 players sit at the 80 iq level.

Probably the funniest thing about these people, in my opinion, is the way they discuss the ways to fix the game. For some reason they’re fucking unable to think “outside the box”, for lack of a better term. You can often hear them add stuff like “…though this might not be possible to implement.” when discussing weapon changes. Nigger, it’s fucking programming! What do you mean it might not be possible?!

>tf2 was meant to be a competitive game

Ah, never mind, you have down syndrome.

>>15651972

>Additionally, making so that the team whose flag has been dropped can pick it up and carry it back to the base would greatly improve the pacing.

Timed return is how it was done in TFC and it worked just fine. It's a cool mechanic that creates a "hotspot" where most of the teams converge at once. That's good pacing for a more casual/pub oriented game if you ask me. Agreed on the time limits though.

>>15651977

Don’t compare it to TFC: Medic was Scout in that game and Pyro was completely useless. Anyways, these “hotspots” last for way too long. Every time an enemy touches your dropped flag, its timer resets back to 60 s. A fucking minute! It just forces your team to sit on one place, the opposite of fun. But if you’re into such types of fun, my suggestion kinda covers that too. Instead of bringing your flag back to base you can always just hide with it somewhere. Though I see this as a flaw.

>>15652005

60s is too long, it should be 30. But I still didn't see it as that much of an issue; it depends mostly on the flag positoning. Honestly conc jumping made a lot of things in that game pretty fucking wacky, the maps clearly were not designed with that in mind and makes the flag running comparable to Tribes, except Tribes had maps ten times the size and touch returns.

>>15651873

>tf2 was meant to be a competitive game

from day one it was meant to be more casual than other FPS games released around the same time

>>15645288

>How hard is it to find someone buying a key for metal ?

Kinda late but backpack.tf always a a bunch of traders buying and selling keys, avoid feeding the (((bot armies))) though.

>>15654385

works on my machine :^)

because this is a 2007 game running on pretty much a modern engine a lot of the default configs no longer make sense, try a config file, I'm pretty sure Uncle Dane had a good video on the topic but if not, try this one I found after 5 seconds on google http://www.teamfortress.tv/25328/comanglias-config-fps-guide

>>15647005

shit has been completely unbalanced by the 6v6 comp fags complaining to the devs that weapons (already banned from comp) are ruining comp

like the soldier's secondary laser weapon, it's officially supposed to shoot a beam that passes through multiple targets and does incrementally less damage to each successive target, till comp fags complained, and valve devs removed that mechanic, only to add a similar mechanic to engineer's short circuit

for a long time after that it still appeared in the tf2 tips what soldier's laser pistol did despite it being fundamentally changed

>>15647235

I fucking HATE that they changed the loch-n-load

It gave an advantage you'd expect from a demolition class, where explosives finally do the damage they should but with the caveat of requiring accuracy

They kept the damage buff against buildings but nerfed damage towards players, I can't even use it because I forget about it having 3 pills and only shoot off two before getting fragged by my target.

It's also useless against sentries if an engineer has rescue ranger.

>>15647287

Literally is one of the new maps. Fucking payload map has spells everywhere, HHH spawns in the middle of the map, then you get thrown into a bumper car mini game where merasmus spawns.

Also some campsite KOTH map has monoculus spawn, merasmus, HHH AND the skeleton king, and a hell portal that spawns 2 master spells but will give you a random spell if you leave via the other portal, and it's always accessible, and there's no way to die from the constant damage tick because there's health packs everywhere in the hell portal.

>>15654385

Speaking from experience, dropping your settings to the lowest doesn't improve performance, it actually makes performance worse for some fucking reason.

>>15654919

Don't you have to completely restart source games in order to get the setting changes to apply, something about the higher setting textures and effects still being rendered even on lower settings?

When uninstalling you still keep your configs apparently, I changed PCs and the game had the same configs afterwards, maybe it's that

>>15657850

You have cloudsaves on.

>>15644546

I wanna fuck vanilla pyro

The vintage fags are running a halloween thing till next sunday. posting about it