/v/ - Video Games

I refuse to use the word "good" but the FF13 sequels are all improvements however faint praise that may be.

>>15643830

13-2 Aka Chrono Crusade was a much better game than 13. This is a fact.

>>15644252

Best daughteru simulator in the genre. Drilling commies to protect little girls was great.

>>15643825

Nah, didn't like the gameplay. It was Uncharted with zombies and a shitty skill-system that supposedly every fucking game has to have nowadays. I just get tired of getting involved with those systems i just shut the game of.

>>15645199

>Back to cuckchan with you.

It says, posting an image with a cuckchan filename.

>>15644815

>>15645199

> Plebbit spacing

> Full paragraphs rather than

> First two lines not even separated by a blank line

Are you retarded?

Hard to think of games that fit that criteria. Maybe Titanfall. Even though the sequel feels like a 1.5 patch to the first game and addresses the many issues with the first it is technically better than the first game, campaign story and all.

>>15645267

drakengard was a fine game.

Going through my hard drive…

DMC3

Tie Fighter

Kotor 2

Fallout NV

Daggerfall

Prey

>>15643825

TEW2 was a shit sequel to an OK game though. The game is dumbed down for casuals beyond belief. At least TEW1 required some tactics and rewarded stealth.

>>15645295

Arena was great you faggot. As for Prey, that's not a sequel to anything.

>>15645302

Prey is a sequel to Prey now. Thank Bethesda.

Arena was mediocre compared to how groundbreaking Daggerfall was.

>>15645224

>he doesn't know what the (u) does

>>15645359

It doesn't give you 13 digits cuckchan.

>>15645352

Daggerfall just improved on the groundbreaking Arena, it didn't do much innovation in comparison to the first game.

>>15644159

>The original was a crushing disappointment in every regard, completely wasting every iota of potential in its engine and premise

Someone never played multiplayer. The geomod technology was fully realized there

>multiplayer levels with hidden rooms you could detonate via explosives

>some levels you could construct elaborate tunnels in

>massive modding community

>>15645439

He's obviously a cucksole nigger

>>15645295

The Evil Within is one of those games that not many people like but those that do think its amazing often for the reasons so many other disliked it.

>Constant, desperate "R-REMEMBER RESIDENT EVIL" references which only makes it be compared to better games like RE4

>Constantly relying on derivative ideas like "totally not pyramid head" who ends up fighting you two on one and killing himself just like pyramid head, feeling like a waste of your time and no creative input from the devs to pump out a rip off

>gore and generic 'messy' designs that are edgy and ugly with no creativity. same issue revelations 2 had. Monsters should be recognisable and iconic, not a incoherent mess. Even the fleshbeasts of silent hill are a set representation of some idea. Not just "durr they are wrapped in barbed wire because they are prisoners, galaxymind.mp3 amirite?"

>the letter box issue

>incorrect use of grain

>isnt actually scary

>tries to keep stem as a reveal but instead of being a shock it just alters expectations to "well nothing actually matters" while the second going in you know its a nightmare so its "anything can happen and reality is fluid" from the off which makes a big difference

>buggy as fuck

>story ends on a cliffhanger, but story so unanimously, overwhelmingly disliked ruvik died on the way back to his home planet in the retarded kids body between games

The issues go on and on but for some reason it does have a few die hard fans for some reason. Just one of those games like Bioshock 2 where there is a clear split, even if its not an even one, where people are very divided over it.

>>15645591

Really I think the cut off is whether or not you were looking forward to it. When it was coming out there were hordes of dickriders trying to get people on board that Shinji Mikami is back baby but I haven't even seen the guy's name come up since. Hell, he didn't even direct 2 apparently. He just "supervised" it meaning he probably yelled at pajeets for a few years.

>>15645603

Mikami was part of this whole shitstorm deal with Inajewne back in the day. Microsoft, EA and Bethesda were part of this joint media blitz that paid journos to push a narrative that japanese games were dying including wining and dining folks in japan with promises of jobs waiting in the west.

It was intended to give a two year breathing room period as EA was putting millions into original ips when they were pure sports and movie adaptations before this and microsoft had the ps3 finally growing in popularity on the horizon as the 360 was beginning to taper off and devs like bungie were jumping ship.

So as well as journos folks like inafune and mikami were basically doing internal sabotage to spread bad sentiment and force two year back to the drawing board turn overs to change games to 'appeal to the western consumer' and we all know what happened. Capcom turned everything into shitty action games for the rest of that generation and nearly went bankrupt if not for monster hunter and inafune and mikami were ostracised by underlings that refused to talk to them when they left who were left to handle the mess they made while they tried to make it with mighty no.9 and the evil within respectively. Neither was a success but mikami was less of a shitshow so just kind of stepped back into the shadows while inajewne took the brunt of it as the whole 2007/2008 corporate sabotage needed a fall guy.

>>15645627

Yeah it's kinda weird how someone can go from working on God Hand to doing fuck all for nearly half a decade and then suddenly your hopping publishers faster Obsidian used to.

>the evil within 2

>a game where all white men are either villains, idiots or wrecks

>while women, chinks and blacks are moral heroes

I dropped this shit game as soon as the pozz surfaced. Fuck the gameplay cucks who enjoy a toy that's written to demonize them.

>>15645646

>to demonise them

>them

>protagonist is hispanic

Crybaby Carlos please ir and stay ir

>>15645591

Other than the letterbox scandal, you've written a retarded gamefaqs post.

Only a kid criticizes every single thing, under the impression he's shitting it more thoroughly. What you're actually doing is showing that you're taking the issue too personally, because you're a fanboy aka someone so stupid to tie his identity to vidya.

>>15645673

Leave some space between dichotomous posts if you want to post b8, you blew it man.

>>15645660

You're shilling a socjus game to validate your fanboysm to the prequel? I hope you're fresh off the boat from cuckchan, and returning fast.

>>15645680

You're either shilling socjus knowingly, or you're such a cuck that you didn't realize them until now. And you've enjoyed a game that actively shits on whites.

>>15645591

>>tries to keep stem as a reveal but instead of being a shock it just alters expectations to "well nothing actually matters" while the second going in you know its a nightmare so its "anything can happen and reality is fluid" from the off which makes a big difference

This is the main reason why could not give a shit about either game, I mean what's so spooky about the matrix, it's only an issue you happen to get stuck in one. I did really like smashing bottles into peoples to set up a stun kill, that was pretty satisfying. The devs made the right call to store more than one bottle in the sequel.

>>15645758

For me the difference in the sequel is your daughter is in there and the goal is to find her and the fucked up shit from the off is because a serial killer is in there warping shit. The first was just 'brain in a jar had a bad upbringing' like the guy behind "ITS SUPER POWERFUL, ESPECIALLY AGAINST LIVING THINGS" was capable of the subtlety and nuance of psychological symbolism and semiotics.

>>15645803

There's a bit more 'why should I give a shit' motivation in the 2nd game, but it's at a cost being so damn by the numbers. You can call what's going to happen, nearly every fucking time.

>>15645591

It has a shit plot that makes zero sense and a try-hard aesthetic, but the base gameplay is genuinely good and the no-damage difficulty is quite doable without any luck needed for most areas. I note that absolutely zero of your complaints have anything to do with gameplay.

>>15645931

>but the base gameplay is genuinely good

Nice joke.

>>15645289

3 was the best game

>>15645936

Compared to TEW2, a game so simple half the attacks can be avoided by walking backwards and enemies can be stealth-killed around corners while they are perfectly aware of you?

>>15646595

>no levels that flat out required geomod

There was a level that required you to use Geomod early on but that was more of a tutorial

The devs of Red Faction said they initially incorporated a ton more Geomod elements into the campaign but it caused players to get lost. That and they'd use up all their explosives on enemies so they'd get mad having to now blow their way through something

>>no levels that really used the surprisingly sophisticated physics component of geomod as a key tactical element

There are a few levels where it's easier to blow up an enemy's cover as opposed to targeting them. Although these are again more closer to the start of the game. The latter half of the game relies far more on bullet-based weapons and the railgun

>no coop campaign

This wasn't all that common at the time. It released the same year as Halo which was basically the standard for how to incorporate cooperative in a game.

>no elaborate objective modes on par with RtCW's or MoHAA's

The game on the PS2 wasn't capable of very large multiplayer maps, the PC version was a port. Return to Castle Wolfenstein I wouldn't say had a particularly involved multiplayer til ET.

>>no vehicles in multiplayer

Thank god for that they'd be too overpowered

>>modding scene too anemic to produce even a single TC

There was a big focus on multiplayer specific mods for Red Faction. Unfortunately the community was spread to the far corners of the earth after many of the modding sites devoted to it died. Nobody was seemingly interested in singleplayer mods

>>no console/pc crossplay

The PS2 multiplayer wasn't online yet. It didn't launch til a year after Red Faction. This is similar to how Halo CE on Xbox didn't have online multiplayer since Xbox Live wasn't a thing yet.

>>15651280

>There was a level

To be clear, that post was JUST about MP. I've got FAAAR more complaints about the lost potential of SP.

>blow up an enemy's cover

That's not what I was referring to, that's just destructibility. I was referring to the fact that RF's engine could dynamically handle multiple rigid objects fallining/rolling after destruction had occurred. This could've been used (especially in correctly built MP levels) to drop stalagmites on peoples' heads, form bridges and cover, block corridors, etc.

>Return to Castle Wolfenstein I wouldn't say had a particularly involved multiplayer til ET.

With spawnpoints sliding back and forth across some of the biggest maps (I'll admit my favorites, tram and chateau, were from the GoTY pack) as objectives were struggled over, it really lent an unforgettable feeling to the battle.

>Thank god for that they'd be too overpowered

The vehicles could've been great, especially the flying/burrowing ones would've enabled completely different layouts. They were fantastic in Halo/Tribes/BF/etc, all that's needed is big enough maps.

>Nobody was seemingly interested in singleplayer mods

I was speaking more of MP TCs the likes of HL's CS or NS. But for both of them, I'm AMAZED Volition didn't hold an official mapping competition on launch.

>The PS2 multiplayer wasn't online yet.

I thought PS2 didn't have an "online service" as such, but instead publishers were free as soon as the adapter accessories were on the market to set up 3rd party servers for direct connection, including crossplay with PC through Gamespy Arcade or whatever.

>>15651357

Yeah, I'm not saying either game was bad, just that they had enormous wasted potential, turning what could've been great games into merely okay ones:

>tons of subplots dropped after first appearance, especially party member backstories and relationships. Zero conversations or cutscenes about the party itself.

>levels mostly consist of NPCs/monsters and loot dotted randomly around the map waiting for you to click on them, highlighting the weak AI, lore/story is dispensed in huge dumps. Even very simple handmade encounter prescripting could've been used all over maps to make them feel far more alive and communicate lore/story to the player more naturally.

>Wilderness encounters literally reuse the same map with fixed enemy layout in a given biome

>broken balance for spells/weapons/monsters/characters. In particular, knockdown and backstab.

>90% finished coop MP mode. Done right, it could've been the missing link between Diablo and actual RPGs with a proper story campaign, cutscenes, and everything.

>>15651909

>I thought PS2 didn't have an "online service" as such, but instead publishers were free as soon as the adapter accessories were on the market to set up 3rd party servers for direct connection, including crossplay with PC through Gamespy Arcade or whatever.

Sony required developers to use a service called DNAS that then sent signals to third party services. DNAS was actually the reason it took 7 years for Metal Gear Solid 3's multiplayer to get reverse engineered.

>>15645646

One of the villains was a black man though. In fact he was arguably the worst villain in the game.

>>15644815

isn't it always?

I just finished TEW2 and it was alright, not scary in the slightest but it's really fun on max difficulty with a pure stealth build. Also it has some really nice moments like when big bad nigger brings back the first game's bosses to traumatize you but you just go all doomguy on his ass and slaughter the shit out of them

Worth a pirate for sure

>>15645646

The main villain is a nigger, the chinks and women all die and the pure blue eyed blonde aryan wife is the best character. You are fucking stupid

>>15645692

>Actively shits on whites

>Literally the whole main cast is white minus one hapa and the main protagonist is a healthy, straight white male as well

>While the main villain is white, he's not really demonized for that so much as for his autism and mental illness caused by past trauma

If you're going to shit on the game, at least fucking play it before you look like a retard