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465d19  No.15640886

Last thread: >>15630513

After the Wendy's College Tailgate Tour video went live, people quickly found a never before seen Smash item that looks strikingly similar to the Growth psynergy from Golden Sun. The golden boy is back, baby.

469fc3  No.15640897

webm and time stamp?


22269f  No.15640902

Golden Shit


3bb14b  No.15640908

Do you really think Nintendo would let something like this past them?


57df00  No.15640909

File: 2b7a2f983f2c319⋯.png (366.81 KB, 1152x864, 4:3, ProximityJPN.png)

Items without a representative character have happened before.


7b2801  No.15640917

If SEGA gets more characters and they end up being more Sonic characters that will be stupid as fuck SEGA might be the most prolific company and is one of the oldest companies that's been making games since electromechanical times. Sonic is a blue little autistic fag rodent. Their stupid little bunny mascot from old manuals would be more interesting and better than another Sonic character. A SoR character would be better than another Sonic character. I'd rather a gay little Puyo over another Sonic character. Fuck, give me a motorcycle and call it Hang-On! for all I fucking care just keep Sonic characters the fuck out. Kiryu would be infinitely better but that sure won't happen. How about that shitty little black boxer from the discrete logic game that invented the fucking fighting genre Heavyweight Champ? No that would make too much fucking sense to represent the origin point of fighters how about a Sonic clone but steel yeah that's a really great idea. I wouldn't be pissed about Robotnik but that's because he's one of the best villains there is but why not Wily oh yeah that's because that blue idiot game series doesn't draw out the apex of autism like Sonic well that's fine. What about shitty Alex Kidd he's completely forgotten or maybe Shinobi who doesn't like Shinobi or Ninja Princess and they're ninjas which smash doesn't have a single one of those but no let's get a queer animal from autism town that'll be great more idiot animals for furfaggots to get inspired by to the dismay of thousands of western pets sorry Fido looks like your master got a boner from playing another video game but hey at least taking a shit isn't difficult is it buddy aww come here. Fuck Sonic and fuck autists


710cf5  No.15640922

>>15640908

Remember that these are the same people who put Castlevania music up on the website a day early.


cb3619  No.15640925

File: 41e3f5e87968924⋯.png (1.25 MB, 1405x504, 1405:504, Last Thread's Leak.png)

October is close to ending and still no Nintendo Direct with newcomers. What gives?

Also, who the fuck are the "chorus kids"?


57df00  No.15640932

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

d9b430  No.15640935

>>15640925

Rhythm Heaven rep.

I would imagine they would be a Mr. Game & Watch type deal where each move is a reference to a different game.


3bb14b  No.15640936

>>15640922

But a public demo is a completely different thing from a Youtube upload.


7d38a4  No.15640938

File: fb6e736b0c48dad⋯.webm (5.65 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Possible_Growth_Item.webm)

>>15640897

It wasn't used at 0:26, so its use is up in the air, but the sprout looks exactly like the field sprites in the series as well as the Psybergy icon.


aa1913  No.15641002

File: 5957c38cc39f459⋯.jpg (149.63 KB, 1080x1613, 1080:1613, understand.jpg)

>>15640925

WHAT PART OF "NEW CHARACTER ANNOUNCEMENTS WILL BE SLOWING DOWN" DID YOU NOT UNDERSTAND

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS UNDERSTANDU


dc2699  No.15641019

File: 8868324cf71cc89⋯.jpg (115.67 KB, 1136x852, 4:3, 4b0351e.jpg)


679d22  No.15641036

>>15641002

It's quite a clever statement actually. Temper peoples expectations making it sound like there are not many characters left, but then blowing them out of the water with one final big reveal with a bunch of characters.


db0d8a  No.15641038

>>15641019

I'm still mad at Mach Rider for using a suit to fake her abs.


465d19  No.15641043

File: 1aef9f65ed136ee⋯.jpg (187.7 KB, 1200x768, 25:16, smashisaac.jpg)

File: d91b8a075fd6110⋯.png (1021.36 KB, 1300x1150, 26:23, Isaac.png)

File: d42f32c2d407006⋯.png (638.65 KB, 600x1400, 3:7, America Results.png)

>>15640908

No doubt, which is why It was most likely a teaser of things to come. It has more legs than the "Rathalos Golden Sun tease" to say the least.

>>15640909

True, but how many of those items have characters that came in as one of the top smash ballot votes for europe and the us?


8dbd3c  No.15641052

File: bd21549453a15cd⋯.png (1.22 MB, 1229x1163, 1229:1163, smashwishlist.png)

As always, post 'em


80651e  No.15641053

>>15640935

I really hope you have to use their attacks in a certain rhythm for them to reach peak potential

this would probably make them shit competitively but who cares

>>15640925

>>15641002

Honestly the sheer amount of characters in this leak is the only thing that is leaving a good sum of doubt in my mind

almost a "too good to be true"

When sakurai said "dont expect too many" I was expecting like, 3 or 4

then we got ridley and shortly after the belmonts and K Rool in one fell swoop

Then after isabelle he said "reveals are slowing down" so I was expecting, maybe 2 more? 3 if we were lucky?

it just seems like too much


3bb14b  No.15641057

>>15641052

It's really nice of you to start every thread the same way, makes filtering you a lot easier.


80651e  No.15641058

File: 63fbbd7b662fec2⋯.png (275.32 KB, 1920x1920, 1:1, smash template empty.png)

>>15641052

While not explicitely listed, Mach Rider and Issac were both ones I was really hoping for as well

Chorus Kids too but more on an absurdity factor.


80651e  No.15641064

>>15640908

You sound in disbelief?

Are you saying the item leak was faked?


8dbd3c  No.15641068

File: 38f0091db55f99c⋯.png (141.87 KB, 784x372, 196:93, ClipboardImage.png)

>>15641058

I just hope Mach Rider has an alt where she takes her helmet off


3bb14b  No.15641072

>>15641064

I just think it's too fucking good to be true.


80651e  No.15641079

>>15641068

Likewise, or at least for a victory pose.

Stated in the last thread, I hope she has a 80s anime style to her, tha'd be mighty neat.

>>15641072

Well with it and the Grinch leak odds are looking in ol' Issacs favor.

I think a simple accidental item snip sounds very plausible.

After all, nintendo themselves accidentally leaked Ganondorf in a trailer in smash 4 well before he was confirmed to come back.


8dbd3c  No.15641083

File: 54b2f384348d3a4⋯.png (327.36 KB, 743x417, 743:417, ClipboardImage.png)

Who's ready for DLC?


469fc3  No.15641085

File: 8e96b9b1cef854b⋯.webm (3.62 MB, 240x160, 3:2, 黄金の太陽2.webm)

File: 9125c9a47fb7c9e⋯.webm (605.35 KB, 240x160, 3:2, excalibur.webm)

File: d30d46065c04448⋯.webm (316.79 KB, 240x160, 3:2, shuriken.webm)

File: 9b3c5fb8f2d392c⋯.webm (678.14 KB, 240x160, 3:2, ninjathunder.webm)


80651e  No.15641100

>>15641085

>Helping my mom clean out her attic

>Find old dusty box of my brothers stuff, mostly aquarium supplies and niche trinkets

>oh shit golden sun

>my old lost golden sun (lost age) game from when I was a kid

>pocket it, go home and play it after I am done

>GBAs shoulder buttons dont work

>neither do my DS lites

>Cant play

God damn it why is the 3DS the first fucking handheld Nintendo made with at least semi-decent shoulder buttons


7d38a4  No.15641105

>>15641100 (Double-checked)

To be fair you can play without the bumpers, it'd just be tedious.


db0d8a  No.15641124

>>15641100

Just go ahead and emulate it then.


6687cc  No.15641132

>>15641053

Do something like Ryu

>input special normally to do normal damage

>input with SFII style inputs to do extra damage

So with the CK, imputing with a beat could do more damage compared to normal attack inputs.


5edb15  No.15641136

>>15641100

With the Lite, the shoulder buttons seem to wear out easily, along with the hinge being fragile. Something I suspected when my first gave out was that simply having something that big/heavy (even if it's not as much as the fat) in a pocket causes the side of the pocket to press the button due to gravity. The one I got after that (new; the prior having been preowned), I've taken it around in a mesh DS Lite travel pouch instead of regular pockets, and have had zero issue thus far.

You might try cleaning out the shoulder buttons if perhaps it's debris or something.

>>15640886

Going to laugh if it's just one of those mind control sprouts from Super Paper Mario or something.


7d38a4  No.15641163

>>15641136

If it was a Floro Sprout, wouldn't it be flat and more polygonal with a black outline like in SPM?


80651e  No.15641169

File: cb844e2fa071008⋯.jpg (54.57 KB, 447x686, 447:686, Arino Dispair.jpg)

>>15641105

Yeah I tried, couldn't handle it

God completely stuck due to the lack of bumpers and had to reset twice, and with such a dialogue heavy game it gets exhausting having to go through it all again.

>>15641124

Yeah likely what ill do

Ill probably even do the first one honestly, never got a chance too before. So playing em in order will at least be nice.

I am just a sucker for collecting and original hardware is all.

>>15641132

Exactly what I was referring to!

get a nice rhythm heaven beat out of their combos

>>15641136

I dont think its lite exclusive cause I have also had this problem with several GBAs as well

but yeah, throw it in your pocket the buttons get worn out from constant pressing while moving.

Ive tried to clean the lite a few times before, after a while it stopped working and the problem kept coming back.


6c99c3  No.15641217

>>15640909

Except the real proximity mine is from Goldeneye and this was only added because they’re fucking pussies who refused to ignore the “licensing.”


866fe1  No.15641250

File: d00700f695884c9⋯.mp4 (13.48 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Animal_Crossing_Jazz_Medle….mp4)

If the leak is true, I'll be disappointed. I don't believe in it for a second, but taking it at face value for a hypothetical argument, I would not give a fuck about a single character, barring maybe trying out Chorus Kids as a silly character. I guess I got Isabelle which is nice, but I already had Villager, so I would have appreciated at least one character with a more unique moveset that I want.


80651e  No.15641309

>>15641250

>so I would have appreciated at least one character with a more unique moveset that I want.

such as?


866fe1  No.15641324

File: e35a8dd6a79f2e8⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 1.09 MB, 1400x1050, 4:3, ClipboardImage.png)


7d38a4  No.15641345

>>15641324

>he spoilered

Why contain it?


5edb15  No.15641374

>>15641169

Yeah, my previous one I cleaned and it worked alright for a little while, but then stopped registering again. Between that and the hinge cracking, it was why I went and got a new one. Must have been back in 2011-13 or so, whenever it was that toysrus had their remaining Lite stock in clearance. But that mesh case is real nice; fits the system perfectly since it's apparently an official accessory, has a clip for backpack or belt loop, and a zipper pocket for extra styluses and screen protectors.

>>15641163

Probably, if they were to roll with the same visual style. Issue I find is that it's likely much easier to just add an item that does a set thing than a whole new character, especially for one from a series Nintendo has been barely apt to care about (I'd put Golden Sun just above Baten Kaitos and Glory of Heracles at this point as far as RPG series they own go). But on the other hand, I can't figure out how that item (if it is one) would even work if as a standalone from Golden Sun.In universe, you'd run across those nodes, and then have to cast growth (and likely having to shift around your djinn to access it because it's dual earth/fire align) and then you could climb it. If it's stand alone, would a character just rip it out and toss it, and it would suddenly grow? Floro Sprout would make more sense as an item; pick it up, chuck it at a foe, and watch them lose control of their character for a while. I don't really have hopes for Isaac, or Felix for that matter, but it almost seems like more something that would be moveset related. Kind of like Snake being able to plant mines and C4 (minus the element of surprise, anyhow.): set a seed beforehand on the stage, and then later cast Growth after it sprouts with the same input, and have some horrible plant grow to adult size and damage/snare anything in range.


866fe1  No.15641382

File: 17c9b5020e1f742⋯.gif (505.51 KB, 180x180, 1:1, 17c9b5020e1f742e227797ea84….gif)

>>15641345

>JC talking to Alex Jacobson about the other fighters like Snake in Brawl

>Paul, Simons, Page, Anna Navarre, Gunther and the rest of the cast chiming in occasionally

I will campaign for this until the day I drop dead.


5516cf  No.15641386

I hope they bring back Golden Sun and give it a better treatment than Dark Dawn. At this point they should just remake the original two and reboot it from there. Dark Dawn was garbage.

>>15641036

It's better to save the best for a month before the Holiday release so that people can set aside money for the game. Too late and you miss the window for it. The Holidays can be the worst time to sell something because after a certain window people won't have money to spend.


8dbd3c  No.15641408

File: 9de4b074105fcc8⋯.png (511.25 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, ClipboardImage.png)

>>15641250

>Isabelle and JC Tenton

Fucking why these memes?


db0d8a  No.15641413

>>15641374

What about if, when you throw it at an opponent, they sprout a climbable plantladder from their heads?


5edb15  No.15641459

>>15641413

>Climbable cordyceps

How awful. But beyond that, what purpose would it even serve in a party/fighting sort of game? Characters already have jumps, some ranging from single to limited flight?

>>15641386

I don't trust modern remakes. Too often shit gets fucked. That's not to say there aren't good ones out there, but of late they're few and far between. And considering how Dark Dawn turned out, I'm not even sure Camelot wanted anything to do with the series past the first two games. If they did make a GS4, what exactly would they do for the playable cast? TLA having a new main four, and then expanding to eight as it included the original GS cast was neat, but Dark Dawn already had eight party members. Would they just have it be a new group? Would they somehow delevel them back to 2-3 and have them start over like basic characters? I know the latter happens in various games (while not an RPG, Metroid is a prime example since it has the same protagonist in most of the series as well as chronology), but it's risky to do and requires some half decent justification, especially for a lengthy game. Other option I can think of would be to up the max level to 200, but with there likely no way to import a save from a DS era game to a present system, I don't think retaining levels and such is an option.


679d22  No.15641556

>>15641413

>>15641374

I could see it making a vine stalk that you can climb were it lands. They did add ladder attacks in Ultimate and only a few stages have ladders built into them.


5516cf  No.15641562

>>15641459

Considering the first two had plat elements that ended on a cliffhanger they had to have had something in mind. Irrc the first two games were originally supposed to be one single game which why you see stuff being carried over. They could just do what they did with Dark Dawn and make a new cast except make the game not shit on so many levels.


563ac9  No.15641877

>>15640886

I dunno man, the whole "two leaf sprout" depiction is pretty common.


c63581  No.15641965

File: d2c3f400281d71c⋯.jpg (434.38 KB, 1280x1556, 320:389, skele nightmare.jpg)

>>15641079

> I hope she has a 80s anime style to her, tha'd be mighty neat.

MFW she gets remodeled into a CalArts style stronk independent wymyn by a SanFran indie developer who got handed the rights for a reboot which turns it into a VN.


679d22  No.15641990

>>15641965

I don't think you have to worry Anon. Even if she got rebooted it would likely be by Sakurai, and then you'd just have to worry about her chasing after shoutas on her motorcycle.


6c99c3  No.15642002

>>15641079

Why is it called grinch?


7a7342  No.15642018

>>15640917

Underrated post.

SEGA has an enormous line-up, they should get something besides Sonic and Sonic clones.


469fc3  No.15642020

>>15641459

>. If they did make a GS4, what exactly would they do for the playable cast? TLA having a new main four, and then expanding to eight as it included the original GS cast was neat, but Dark Dawn already had eight party members

They said they wanted to make a new Shining Force. Just make a tRPG with psynergy that can manipulate the battlefield and puzzles to solve during battle so you can field a bunch of people at once. Then have the original casts be late joins. Easy.


679d22  No.15642021

>>15642002

One of the things that gives the recent leak it's teeth, is that in the same pic as the smash stuff, is stuff for advertising the new Grinch movie too, so to be fake the leaker would have needed to fake those as well.


7d38a4  No.15642023

>>15641990

>Mach Rider: Rema/ss/stered

I wouldn't mind this.


7d38a4  No.15642032

>>15642023

I know that remaster isn't the best term to use, I'm just too sleepy to think of anything else. Polite sage for doubleposting.


bb31b8  No.15642038

File: 6919ddb1b575300⋯.png (417.04 KB, 500x500, 1:1, f0b7266411e70a123790c2c106….png)

>>15642023

>Smash-U doubles

>two dudes play Palutena and Mach Rider

>call it Team Ara


bcba06  No.15642639

>>15641038

>>15641019

I found the origin of the image from this page

https://lineblog.me/kickulmcu/archives/6059331.html

Going by the translation, it seems it was from a Famicom Magazine called "High Score". So in a sense, Mach Rider was a literal pin up girl.


8dbd3c  No.15642655

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

I wonder if they're gonna get any ex-Rare composers to remix some Banjo music for Smash.

It's gonna be like trying to create haute cuisine out of two-week old thanksgiving leftovers. Banjo's music is not its strong suit. I'm sure some N64 tardbabbies will disagree but once you get past the nostalgia, you'll realize that the original games only had about three or four good tracks total between them.

Kirkhope is easily the worst of the ex-Rare composers and I'd rather they got someone like Robin Beanland or David Wise.


bcba06  No.15642662

>>15642655

Kirkhope says he denies the leak and stated he has no involvement, thank gott for that I guess in this case


169926  No.15642666

File: 6870861e4c06dce⋯.jpg (88.03 KB, 720x720, 1:1, WHEN YOU SPOT A NEW SIDEQU….jpg)

>>15640140

I just picked the first google search cause I'm in the middle of replacing hard drives.

>>15640363

It would make sense

>80's mom is Mach Rider

>/v/-tan is the father

>/vr/-tan is a 90's kid

>Vivian is from the early 2000's breed of gamers

>>15640274

Thank you, God.

>>15641068

>the way a long haired woman takes off her helmet with her eyes closed

Yes,

>>15641083

Every time someone mentions Steve in Smash on one of these threads it just gets ten times worse.

>>15642038

>I can finally have an /ara/ fight among Bayonetta, ZSS, Mach Rider and Palutena

Shame they used youngin' Zelda but it's much better like this.


8dbd3c  No.15642669

File: a448a428ce5abb4⋯.png (82.19 KB, 194x260, 97:130, ClipboardImage.png)

>>15642662

>Kirkhope stated he has no involvement

CRISIS AVERTED


5edb15  No.15642679

>>15642020

I don't know. Do that, and as a main entry, and you risk turning off the existing fans through too much change from the prior handling. A clear side game or spin off, yeah, but calling it Golden Sun: Book IV (or however they went about labeling the games internally; I seem to recall the GBA ones being considered Books I and II) or something, ask Capcom how that worked out for Breath of Fire V.


bcba06  No.15642704

>>15642669

I'm not sure you know the answer to thise, but I saw >>15641043's posts, and it seems Banjo is fairly popular in Japan. I never really concieved of him that way, especailly since he's from a western developer that largely markets that way. Do you have any idea why?


8dbd3c  No.15642715

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15642704

No idea, but if I had to guess it's because he was marketed the same way as Crash, who is also popular in Japan.

I guess it's because they like kawaii animal characters that can be mistaken for doggos.


bcba06  No.15642724

>>15642715

I just gave myself a quick rundown on how western games games did in Japan. Pretty well with BK doing 400K and BTooie doing 200K. Crash does seem to be the biggest at 700,000.


2980ca  No.15642762

>>15642724

Considering how poorly the N64 did over there, those are phenomenal numbers, especially for a new western IP over there.


d9b430  No.15642871

>>15642655

Yeah, I like Kirkhope's music but he is easily the weakest of the big 3 Rare composers.

>>15642669

>>15642662

Literally means nothing. He could be under NDA, and forced to say its nothing, when he actually is involved.


6419b6  No.15642893

>>15641043

>It has more legs than the "Rathalos Golden Sun tease" to say the least.

What is this exactly?


8dbd3c  No.15642898

>>15642871

>Literally means nothing. He could be under NDA, and forced to say its nothing, when he actually is involved.

Not necessarily. Some NDAs forbid you to say anything even about speculation. In any case they certainly wouldn't allow him to lie about not being involved.


d9b430  No.15642902

File: d6aa87043551e66⋯.webm (Spoiler Image, 4.72 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, YESYESYES YES.webm)

File: f456c8e39c02219⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 84.4 KB, 735x709, 735:709, mr.jpg)

File: 1d2374b9495db9f⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 20.27 KB, 512x384, 4:3, 55015194_p0.png)

File: c19d73e65c0417f⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 485.83 KB, 530x810, 53:81, 48598731_p0.png)

>Wanted Mach Rider for a long time

>Was also the only person posting about female Mach Rider, months and months before the leak

>Generally get ignored

>Smash leak comes out

>Now everybody is on board with me about female Mach Rider

Im glad it turned out this way.

Now here's hoping Sakurai doesn't drop the ball and make her a C.Falcon clone or something, gotta be on the bike the whole time.


d0d8d9  No.15642910

>>15642655

David Wise is all we need


d0d8d9  No.15642912

>>15641019

this needs to be an alt skin


d0d8d9  No.15642919

File: 5a89525f4e2eddd⋯.png (38.01 KB, 662x344, 331:172, ClipboardImage.png)

Isaac Pretty much confirmed


6419b6  No.15642925

>>15642919

>ground presumably breaking apart in the trailer

This is it, the final proof. Steve is confirmed now.


5edb15  No.15642928


8dbd3c  No.15642937

File: 115efe87d6240f2⋯.gif (290 KB, 500x705, 100:141, mutecity.gif)

>>15642902

She will have her bike but expecting her to be on it the whole time is just stupid. It'll be a utility special just like Wario's bike.

Likewise she probably won't be an echo since echoes need to be within the same franchise as each other.


147381  No.15642947

>>15642937

>>15642902

I think she would work really well as a slower, but more mobile rushdown character, like a fusion of ZSS and Falcon.


0f1ed7  No.15642948

>>15640925

I'm hoping that it's unfinished artwork and that Ray 01, Dixie, Dante and Saki were added later on. I would be surprised if they didn't add in Dante, especially since that DMC5 leak has a good track record other than the Dante song.


cf64a7  No.15642954

>>15642948

shut up about Dante he isn't in and won't be.


0f1ed7  No.15642960

>>15642902

Make the Bike transform. As cool as it would be to have a Bike character, we already see her standing.


0f1ed7  No.15642962

>>15642954

No. He replaced MonHun.


a1156b  No.15642975

File: 7545472e26dc1d0⋯.png (341.23 KB, 596x401, 596:401, Golden Sun Growth.png)

>>15640886

>>15640938

for reference in the image.


c63581  No.15642980

>>15642902

I can see her being an echo of Falcon, unfortunately.

Or they could just go the "fuck it, redesign the character for a reboot" route, and make her fight with the bike by having the bike be a suit of transforming robot armour she can wear into battle.


104834  No.15642981

>>15642893

The poses of the characters in the HD Rathalos reveal extra you see in the first picture look somewhat similar to Golden Sun's standard combat pose, albeit at a 30* and flat angle instead of 45* and slightly elevated. If you line up the right swordies you get two that hold their weapons exactly the same way as Link and Marth.


a1156b  No.15642982

File: 017c48fdd4148ad⋯.webm (9.48 MB, 854x480, 427:240, Rhythm Heaven Fever - Dre….webm)

>>15640925

>>15640935

Chorus kids are a band of 3 Marshal clones. Marshal is the primary Rhythm Heaven character, often for tutorials and menus.


5edb15  No.15643004

>>15642975

Might be better to try to grab a screencap of the field node, not the psynergy. Just saying since while close it's not quite the sprout in the apparent leak, and I forget if the field sprite is somewhat different from the psynergy icon or not.


fc5ea6  No.15643026

>>15642962

Kys. Monster Hunter needs to be in more than a guy who doesnt have a single nintendo game to his name. Unless if he gets a game for switch then I wouldnt mind

Dante in Project X Zone aslo does not count


a1156b  No.15643055


0f1ed7  No.15643079

>>15643026

Same could be said for Cloud.


d9b430  No.15643082

File: 86c05246afd999a⋯.png (5.8 KB, 499x141, 499:141, sprout GS2.png)

>>15643055

>>15643004

This it? I havent played GS, so I dunno.


b5f89f  No.15643168

Golden Sun was a launch title that really pushed the GBA hardware. I mean, sure you got your pre-rendered sprites, but the music was incredible, and the battle camera tricks haven't been brought together before in one title. Motoi Sakuraba knew how to tickle the sound chip's ivories to produce sounds that no one would think to accomplish.

That said, only the visual performance was what made the game incredible. The battles are bog-standard, and the story is a mess that tries to be deep, but ends up full of plot holes. Seriously, try coming up with a short description of what the story's about, without confusing grandma.

The enemy variety is occasionally lacking, with the monsters getting recolors sprinkled throughout different locations. While it's understandable due to hardware limitations, there's also the fact that none of their designs are memorable. I seem to recall a succubus at one point in TLA, and thinking, "Why does Nintendo have sex demons in their game?" That's all I can remember.

The locations, coupled with the music, are pretty nice however. Gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling, but that's just another aspect of the visuals I mentioned earlier.


b5f89f  No.15643172

>>15642937

I think they'll somehow keep her on her bike. If they could make Chorus Kids work, they'll make a bike-fighter work. Just look at Kamen Rider Kuuga's bike fights. It can be possible.


7b2801  No.15643182

>>15643079

Cloud is a fucking disgrace


b5f89f  No.15643184

File: e940744e9be388a⋯.png (975.45 KB, 658x864, 329:432, Susaand.PNG)

>>15643168

Oh, and the character art is just generic anime. Nothing special. Apparently there was some for Susa and Kushinada from Izumo in TLA, and it looked really, really generic.


b5f89f  No.15643187

>>15643026

>needs to be in

Fuck off with your self-righteous nonsense. Nothing deserves to be in a game about the celebration of video games. Only Sakurai and Bamco are the gatekeepers for that, and if the Small 4 polls are anything to go by, you won't get what you want. They might give it to you for DLC, but they're already overworked trying to get this game out on Dec. 7th. So again, fuck off.


a1156b  No.15643195

File: 0963c3c4204c298⋯.webm (6.46 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, 59 Duck Hunt – Super Smas….webm)

File: 0c33c986a55c168⋯.webm (6.37 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, 33-35 Pokémon Trainer – S….webm)

>>15643172

The artwork on the mural shows her next to her bike.

I would imagine she'd indeed get to keep her bike for most/all combat. After all, the base frame for more horizontally designed fighters is present in Ivysaur and Dacunt. This would just make Machrider larger.

My main question is… How do you think they'll implement the shattering and reconstituting ability?


f1ffa2  No.15643198

Let's talk potential Western DLC characters. I've come up with at least 7 prime contenders for a DLC spot (this is assuming Banjo is in the base roster):

1) Rayman

2) Doomguy

3) Crash

4) Shantae

5) Dragonborn

6) Battletoads

7) Minecraft Steve

Who do you think is/are the most likely DLC character/s? It's also worth noting that they are competing for DLC spots alongside newer Nintendo characters, such as Rex and Pyra and a Gen 7/8 Pokemon, and with Japanese third parties such as Dante and Sora.


b5f89f  No.15643199

>>15643195

I'm pretty sure she's ON her bike, last I looked.


a1156b  No.15643205

>>15643199 (checked)

You're 100% correct. She's stopped and has one leg propping herself up.


b5f89f  No.15643209

>>15643205

I never said she was RIDING it, just ON it. Christ.


a1156b  No.15643212

>>15643209

I'm saying you are correct; she is on the bike. I was just clarifying the pose she's in, which is with the bike at rest and one leg on the ground.


db0d8a  No.15643213

>>15643195

>How do you think they'll implement the shattering and reconstituting ability?

They'll implement it by making her run off the stage and commit suicide if her bike is shattered because she's a fucking weak loser that falsifies abdominal strength using a suit.


b5f89f  No.15643215

>>15643212

Weird. No one ever types like that anymore, so I thought you were just being sarcastic.


a1156b  No.15643242

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15643215

Eh, random act of understanding and kindness. Rare, but not impossible to come across.


fa2f53  No.15643244

File: 7ef18144d8dbf1e⋯.jpg (48.16 KB, 600x600, 1:1, consider the following shi….jpg)

>>15643026

DMC4:SE is also coming to Switch according to the leak


025082  No.15643253

>>15643198

Earthworm Jim


b5f89f  No.15643256

Honestly, where's all the Mike Jones support? I'm pretty sure he was in the ballot, right?


cb3619  No.15643271

File: cc099b577c8b8ec⋯.jpg (525.55 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, KH3-TwoYoYos.jpg)

>>15643256

He's not even the best yo-yo user.


db0d8a  No.15643277

>>15643271

Yeah, and Captain Rainbow hasn't made it in yet either.


80e6d7  No.15643284

Literal only problem with this is fucking chorus shits from Rhythm Heaven and no Dee. Then again, if he's DLCshit, no one can bitch about him on the base game like we horrifyingly were faced with the notion of that block cancer shit. Entirely optional character to have.


e22fb9  No.15643291

It's called Rhythm Paradise you filthy americans


80e6d7  No.15643298

>>15643291

If you're in eurocuck, you don't have shit to brag about just because of some translation, now shut it.

Literally would cosmically trade lives of those fucking disgraces to humanity just for 3 more characters I want. Better expenditure for sure.


5516cf  No.15643376

>>15643168

Did you even play the game to completion? It's combat system was really good thanks to the summoning system. By temporarily giving up your more of your sprites and thus class power ups you gained you access to more and more powerful summons. Bosses actually had difficulty and you couldn't power through them like you could in other games. Enemies are just fodder to farm for weapons and to drain your psynergy.

The environmental puzzles were aslo some of the more engaging in any RPG at the time requiring spacial awareness since they weren't just "use this power in the way we laid out to make obvious" puzzles that plague adventure games like Zelda. Many required multiple visits to, secret entrances to maps and using and then canceling powers with other powers. Wind Rock was fairly tricky to wrap your head around and that was an early game dungeon.


b5f89f  No.15643387

>>15643376

… Yes. Both games. Even Dark Dawn. Did this when I was a preteen/early teenager. Even beat the Mega Man Zero series up to 3. I think I know what I'm talking about.

And yeah, I guess the puzzles were interesting.


b5f89f  No.15643392

>>15643298

Yeah, go ahead. Fly to Europe and shoot three people. See how far you get bruh.


80e6d7  No.15643405

>>15643392

I meant deal with the devil type shit, you stupid faggot.


80e6d7  No.15643414

>>15643387

>up to 3

There's only 3.


5516cf  No.15643419

>>15643392

He'll honestly be okay if he can pass himself off as a muzzie migrant.

>>15643387

But you were still wrong.


7d38a4  No.15643421

>>15643414

Was 4 that bad?


80e6d7  No.15643435

>>15643419

Honestly, getting to sacrifice 100s of mudshits and retarded cucks alike would be ideal. Fuck my soul. Christian God probably hates me at this point anyways.

>>15643421

It was a pathetic whimper of a setting, gameplay, story and the series was intended for ending with 3. That's all I give a shit about. Completely dismissed. ZX follows with absolutely no issue.


bcba06  No.15643696

File: cbb8d1eecca6836⋯.jpg (235.65 KB, 900x900, 1:1, 2ie.jpg)

Very funny seeing all these 'insiders'. WOW YOU WORK IN VIDYA AND GOSSIP ABOUT IT AND THEN POST IT ON YOUR TWITTER. Truly people of integrity and someone who does worthwhile things in their life.

Have a Nintendo Power cover for my anger


80e6d7  No.15643702

>>15643696

There is no "sanctity of life".


db0d8a  No.15643703

>>15643696

This is a nice Nintendo Power cover, but I do not like how the sticker is blocking things on it. Please remove it and make your post over again.


4a0457  No.15643721

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15641068

Mach Rider reminds me of specifically Italian ripoffs of Mad Max from the 80's. That should be the style if they ever bring the franchise back.


bcba06  No.15643803

File: 405774486431e7b⋯.jpg (105.71 KB, 618x800, 309:400, doublespecial.jpg)

>>15643702

I'm not arguing about sanctity of life. I'm saying that someone who effectively gossips about video games doesn't hold up as someone of integrity. Many of these 'insiders' or 'people with connections' also act high and mighty about their info and how the plebians are wrong.

If it was taken off it would leave marks


80e6d7  No.15643856

File: 48b8f03d399d041⋯.jpg (46.34 KB, 479x370, 479:370, 48b8f03d399d04154035905cfb….jpg)

>>15643803

I'm just fucking pissed about retards that still act like tits are bad or bitch about sexualizing hot developed teenage characters and "Smash" brings out the worst in people. I really would fucking sign a supernatural death warrant for cucks, femishits, prudish fanatical subhumans in general and retarded "pedo" or "creepy" spewing moralfaggots at this point just to get more Nintendo or legendary 3rd party characters I wanted because I don't even see value in the shit existing and I can't take it anymore. I would sleep like a baby knowing I condemned every last one to get what I want just because it would have cost literally nothing.


f88d8d  No.15644212

>>15643721

This looks fucking awesome.


6aa3ed  No.15644231

>>15641250

>I I I I I I I I

Have you ever taken a look at yourself and noticed how selfish and entitled you sound?


866fe1  No.15644273

>>15644231

>how dare you actually want characters in this game

>just be happy that others are happy!

I can be somewhat happy for Ridleyfags despite not liking the series or the character much, but certain rumored characters are cancer that I never wanted in the game (mainly Shadow and Banjo). Why should I be happy about that? Hell, I'm not a fan of Melee and Brawl but they at least included characters I liked.


db0d8a  No.15644287

>>15644273

To be fair, Shadow being made into an echo rather than a full character will make cancerous people upset.


e22fb9  No.15644365

>>15644231

Holy fuck you actually counted the "I"s in his post, how autistic are you?


6b0317  No.15644410

>>15644365

Not as autistic as the guy who counted every usage of "I", "Me", and "Mine" in king nigger's old speeches. Shadow and banjo really are garbage though, and don't deserve to be in smash.


e22fb9  No.15644440

>>15644410

Shadow is a shit character, but I'd argue Banjo deserves to be in, because he's one of the (if not the most) representative characters of the N64 era. I'm not a big fan of collectathon games, but saying Banjo doesn't deserve to be in smash is not acurate at all.


866fe1  No.15644463

>>15644440

Ideally if we must have a rep for that gen, which I'd rather not, I'd want Spyro over Banjo. Never liked Banjo's games and don't think he could have a fun moveset.


6b0317  No.15644469

>>15644440

>but I'd argue Banjo deserves to be in, because he's one of the (if not the most) representative characters of the N64 era

And that's the problem, he's only relevant in the context of the N64 and not nintendo as a whole. I'm not saying BK was a bad title, but his time in the sun was over years ago.


80651e  No.15644497

>>15644469

you could have said the exact same thing about Mega Man though

and Simon Belmont now

"Mega Man/Belmont are only relevant in context of the NES era, not nintendo as a whole. their time in the sun is over now."


4a0457  No.15644503

>>15644212

It's an enjoyable movie.


e22fb9  No.15644508

>>15644469

But remember we're talking about nintendo here, they've added characters like the Ice Climbers, Mr Game and Watch, Pit (before Uprising was a thing) and Mach Rider, which aren't relevant outside of their respective plataforms. I'd much rather have someone with potential for an original moveset, but I understand the reasoning behind his inclusion.


db0d8a  No.15644514

>>15644469

>he's only relevant in the context of the N64 and not nintendo as a whole

You forgot he's also relevant in the context of the GBA.


5516cf  No.15644523

>>15644508

Pit got in because Sakurai liked the character and wanted to make a game for him. IRRC Uprising was actually supposed to be a Wii game but was instead made into a 3DS title. Ice Climbers and G&W were added before the era or 3rd party additions.


6419b6  No.15644533

>>15644469

Would you say that Snake, Sonic, Bayonetta or Cloud represent Nintendo as a whole? Or for that matter, what about all the characters that have only been relevant for a tiny period of Nintendo's history? Such as Mr.G&W, Pit, Inkling and a fuckton of others. It's been quite a while since Mr.G&W was relevant, aside from those collection releases they made for GBA.

>I'm not saying BK was a bad title

It honestly was, especially the sequel. The levels are pointlessly big and you move terribly slowly in comparison, so all the getting from point A to point B is a huge slog. Again, the sequel is even worse about it, with large levels and constant backtracking to do pointless shit like open a path so that you can slowly go back. Metroidvania style design, if that's what you want to call it, doesn't work if transportation isn't fast.


4a0457  No.15644542

>>15644497

Let's not forget Mr Game and Watch or Duck Hunt. Smash Bros has never had a rule that characters have to be current.


dcc97e  No.15644567

>>15644523

>IRRC Uprising was actually supposed to be a Wii game

You recall wrong. There was a Wii Kid Icarus in development, but it was separate from what Sakurai had in mind.


4a0457  No.15644568

>>15644533

>having ADHD

I never once noticed movement speed being too slow in those games. Now you can criticise most of the challenge being totally trivial to anyone over the age of eight. I think that presents a real problem going back to those games these days.


e22fb9  No.15644569

>>15644523

Okay, but what about Duck Hunt or Simon? They aren't relevant now, but they're iconic characters from Nintendo's past.


6b0317  No.15644572

>>15644497

Mega man has starred in over 25 games in his original incarnation, and over 100 games carry his name in the title. How many does Banjo have?

As for Simon, he is consistently the face of Casltevania in crossover material and again has again starred in more games than Banjo.

>>15644508

Pit in Brawl was the prelude to Uprising, as samurai founded Sora LTD to work on first before Iwata forced Brawl on him. G&W and the climbers do stand out for oddity, but they makes sense for the historical context of the first non-garbage handheld and an NES title reflective of the earliest era (who isn't Mario). Mach Rider would also fit this criteria.

>>15644533

Samurai is/was friends with kojima, hence Snake. Sonic was Mario's marketing rival for years, where as sony has no single mascot to use. Bayonetta is now jointly owned by Nintendo, hence the exclusivity. Cloud is the dumbest case, since squenix has no singular face for the FF series outside of the chocobo and that would be a let down to everyone but the author of Chocobo Sisters if that ostrich was the series representative. Retroactively Cloud has become more relevant since the port of the original 7.

>TL;DR:

Banjo has not been relevant to even rare since the early millennium, the N64 was the beginning of Nintendo's weakest generations, and Humba Wumba is still the hottest prairie nigger and a better magician than Mumbo


6b0317  No.15644588

>>15644572

Addendum: having sonic in smash bros adds the novelty of pulverizing the worst mascot in all of vidya, which was undoubtedly not lost on Sakurai.


4a0457  No.15644592

>>15644572

Ice Climbers have one game, which was always overshadowed by Nintendo's better games of the era. Never stopped them.


6b0317  No.15644601

>>15644592

Experiments for Balloon Fighter didn't turn out so well.


5516cf  No.15644616

>>15644567

Still doesn't change my point. But I'm quite sure that the still that content got carried over since Sakurai was forced to work on brawl rather than his own game. That and uprising was a far bigger than it had any business to be for an arcade style handheld game.

>>15644542

>>15644497

They generally have to be popular or iconic and then have to get past the whims of the Mashupotato Samurai

>>15644569

Duck Hunt and Simon are more iconic and than a platformer on one of Nintendo's least selling consoles. Bandai Namco who are working on Smash also own the Castlevania IP and with the amount of Castlevania content we're getting I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't push for him to get in.


4a0457  No.15644620

I should also add that the Mother series never really took off in the first place, apart from as a niche cult classic.


db0d8a  No.15644621

>>15644572

>Humba Wumba is still the hottest prairie nigger and a better magician than Mumbo

Mumbo actually ends up adventuring himself to do magic while Humba just sits around playing with her hair and letting animals stare at her tits, how is she better?


4a0457  No.15644628

>>15644616

Banjo is way more popular and iconic than Ice Climbers. I don't think you realise how big Banjo Kazooie was in the N64 era. If you owned an N64, you played Banjo Kazooie.


6b0317  No.15644630

>>15644616

Konami owns castlevania man.

>>15644621

Tits of course–what are you, a fag?


5516cf  No.15644636

>>15644630

Shit. I always get those Japanese names mixed up.


6419b6  No.15644643

>>15644568

Baseless personal attacks make for very poor arguments. I have played many slow games, yet very few of them felt even nearly as tedious as Banjo Tooie.

>>15644572

You are making some terrible justifications for all the poor choices they made. If being a rival is all that it takes to be important to Nintendo, then being part of the 3D platformer core when that genre was still growing is surely enough for Banjo. Hell, at the time Banjo was something of a rival to Mario, since BK was really popular back then.


db0d8a  No.15644649

>>15644630

>Tits of course–what are you, a fag?

Doesn't mean much when her tits consort with beasts.


3bb14b  No.15644651

>>15644628

I didn't play it because my brother told me it was garbage and he was right.


e22fb9  No.15644669

>>15644616

Altough Duck Hunt sold much better than Banjo Kazooie (in part for being bundled with the NES), Castlevania's sales don't even come close to Banjo Kazooie's. Banjo is the best selling original IP in the N64, even if you don't like the game or the characer there's no denying he's a part of Nintendo's history.


6b0317  No.15644671

File: fd5278ae60cc0cb⋯.jpg (72.76 KB, 1024x683, 1024:683, fd5278ae60cc0cb506910300d2….jpg)

>>15644643

<Muh argument

Nigger your whole basis for banjo being in smash is because it was a game you played when you were a kid, and nothing more.

<Hell, at the time Banjo was something of a rival to Mario, since BK was really popular back then

The delusion of the cult of rare disgusts me on every level.


4a0457  No.15644672

>>15644643

Tooie has problems with levels being too big for their own good. Kazooie got it just right though.


6687cc  No.15644711

>>15642919

So basically . . .

>Isaac SSBU trailer for the previous Direct

>earthquake in Japan happens

>delay broadcast for a week (unknown to the public)

>remove Isaac trailer because of earthquake related content

>while in that same week timeframe, substitute for Isabelle trailer AND have a teaser for a Switch AC game following it.

Either we were going to have two Smash newcomer announcements in one Direct (Isaac and Isabelle), or that Nintendo is crazy fucking prepared to swap in and out game announcements for a Direct when possible.

>>15644508

>>15644523

>>15644572

Pit got in because of the unusually high sales of Kid Icarus NES Classic GBA port in Japan.


469fc3  No.15644723

File: 72868047bb0eb8b⋯.jpg (32.48 KB, 540x528, 45:44, areyoumentallyretarded.jpg)

>>15644572

> Cloud is the dumbest case, since squenix has no singular face for the FF series outside of the chocobo and that would be a let down to everyone but the author of Chocobo Sisters if that ostrich was the series representative. Retroactively Cloud has become more relevant since the port of the original 7.

>not black mage


780767  No.15644729

File: bb540b984300684⋯.png (189.42 KB, 779x460, 779:460, for being an autist.png)


6b0317  No.15644733

>>15644723

Did black mage get a shitty movie forced upon millions of people?


866fe1  No.15644738

>>15644723

What about _Cid_ ?


db0d8a  No.15644750

>>15644672

>Tooie has problems with levels being too big for their own good. Kazooie got it just right though.

Come to think of it, what's the biggest possible stage that would work as a Banjo stage in smash?


f6a035  No.15644768

>>15644750

>the sole reason Mash Potato Samurai included Banjo Kazooie was so he could include obnoxiously big stages a-la Great Cave Offensive


4a0457  No.15644775

>>15644750

Well, no stage could be to scale. They'd probably pick Spiral Mountain, or Grunty's Lair.


db0d8a  No.15644783

>>15644775

Probably, but what would the most FUN huge stage to have be? For example, how would a Cloud Cuckooland stage work?


469fc3  No.15644796

File: 12bf8d753a13a22⋯.png (7.14 KB, 500x250, 2:1, Oekaki.png)

>>15644750

Freezy Peak could be a good stage with its original geography mostly intact. Center of the stage is the snowman, which is a climbable obstacle (and ceiling for the lower part of the stage), but the water sorrounding it is a pit. The entrance slope at the start is the left wall. Right side has the scarf as a platform.


4a0457  No.15644802

>>15644783

I guess I'd like Mayhem Temple, just for the uniqueness of an Aztec themed stage, with the giant golem being a stage hazard.


db0d8a  No.15644804

>>15644796

That seems like a pretty sensible idea. I get the feeling we're going to get the top of Grunty's castle with her as a stage boss, though.


db0d8a  No.15644808

>>15644802

Golems aren't aztec, anon. It's just a giant gold statue.


b5f89f  No.15644814

So, has it been quiet all day? It's Trick-or-Treat night here, and I want more treats (read: clues).


4a0457  No.15644818

File: 3953746cf2fa628⋯.png (15.7 KB, 238x326, 119:163, ClipboardImage.png)

Most of Tooie's stages would probably be fun, in fact. Tooie was more creative with it's level theming.


db0d8a  No.15644824

>>15644818

I'd love a Witchyworld stage, but it'd almost definitely have to be another tour stage, wouldn't it?


80651e  No.15644832

>>15644572

>Mega man has starred in over 25 games in his original incarnation

and Banjo has a handful of games past the N64 era, they are just terrible.

also Mega Mans games arent linked with Nintendo either. Dudes been on every platform that was convenient for capcom since mega man 7.

So whats the important bit to you? Having ties with nintendo or having a large library of games?

Why is Banjo not okay but cloud is?

When it comes to 3rd parties especially, its about the iconic ones.

And Banjo is very iconic. Defines a generation and would serve up as a better rareware rep than even K.Rool

He was even considered for N64 Smash

>Bayonetta is now jointly owned by Nintendo, hence the exclusivity

thats just not true

You are literally beating around the bush and making exceptions for every 3rd party character except for banjo, when 3rd party characters in general are exceptions.

>>15644616

>They generally have to be popular or iconic and then have to get past the whims of the Mashupotato Samurai

Banjo is both of those though.

He was even extremely popular in the Japanese polls, too.


80651e  No.15644839

>>15644824

If Banjo is in, were getting Spiral Mountain and you know it.

Not that I am knocking that, its got a nice laid back theme.


866fe1  No.15644851

File: c536391d3b1833f⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 640.22 KB, 800x450, 16:9, ClipboardImage.png)

>>15644832

There's only one Rareware rep that deserves to be in. It kickstarted their big break before DKC and it's the only series of theirs about to get a new game (at least a real game)


b5f89f  No.15644853

>>15644832

I dunno about you, but even though I'm glad for the people that wanted him in, FUCK Banjo.


dc2699  No.15644873

>>15644533

>Bayonetta

She represents Nintendo's ability to create mass amounts of salt just by existing.


4a0457  No.15644879

>>15644853

Why you hate Banjo, man?


80651e  No.15644881

>>15644851

Hey, id be lying if I said I didn't want the 'Toads in.

Merge their powers into one fighter, make em all one character you swap between like Bowser Jr.

Prime reps for the NES/SNES beat-em-up genre that was popular.

>>15644853

Well uh, I disagree I suppose.

I've wanted Banjo in since I was a kid, #1 pick after Mega Man and Belmont and I already got both of those.

dont really get your mentality there.

I mean I didnt want geno in but I am very happy for the people who wanted him.

I dont have any personal vendetta against the character though?


b5f89f  No.15644885

>>15644879

I dunno, just don't care enough about him. I mained Krunch.

>>15644881

Hello Jon.


dc2699  No.15644903

>>15644671

>Nigger your whole basis for banjo being in smash is because it was a game you played when you were a kid, and nothing more.

To be fair that is the only reason people like K. Rool.


780767  No.15644906

File: 32a206c20682222⋯.jpg (665.26 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 32a206c2068222274d7d172423….jpg)

>>15643198

>Rayman

Likely. Nintendo and Ubisoft also seem to be good friends. Rayman fits with the colorful and quirky nature of Nintendo characters. He's iconic, Rayman 2 cemented himself in the N64's must-play library and is overall a must-play game, possibly his best. He might've been included earlier if it weren't for his first appearance being on Playstation as well as having appearances elsewhere. My only question is should they incorporate elements of Rayman 3 into his moveset?

>DoomGuy

Toss-up. Nintendo and Bethesda also seem buddy-buddy. And I'd argue DoomGuy/DoomSlayer is also the most iconic character they happen to hold licenses. (Reminder Bethesda does not own Id, but rather they're owned by the same parent company.) Mature content doesn't seem to be a problem seeing as Bayonetta is in. But who knows if the exact circumstances are a bit different for DoomGuy.

>Crash

Iffy. Crash is definitely iconic and a contender for most recognizable and marketable characters. Having his game on Switch certainly helps. If Banjo gets in, then it's definitely possible. I want to mention something about "Sony" and maybe how Nintendo might not value Crash all that much, but then again, Cloud is also in the game. Nintendo seems friendly enough with Activision to let them use DK and Bowser, so chances are good depending on how the meeting and negotiations go.

>Shantae

???? She's technically considered an Indie game character so business might be easy. Personal bias aside, I still debate if she's all that worthy. She didn't really define any Nintendo console's library or push her way into mainstream gaming spotlight such as the previous 3. Again, it's more of an argument of if the development time is worth it. She definitely has enough moveset potential, but you have to figure how much Nintendo values her influence. I want to say she's likely if we get other playable Indie characters first like Cave Story's Quote.

>Dragonborn

Less chance than DoomGuy, but also about the same. What I've said with DoomGuy applies here, except he isn't as iconic and he'd have a hard time representing the series. I'd personally prefer the Nerevarine, but we all know much how baseless opinions are worth.

>Battletoads

Incalculable. Assuming Banjo is in, there's a decent chance, but it might not be enough against the waves of other characters. They're iconic for the NES definitely, a must-play. And being beat-em up reps would help them stand out amongst other fighters. But they simply don't have the fanbase or attention they used to have. It's hard to say if they've been all that impactful in gaming history.

>Steve

Good chance if Microsoft is willing. But Minecraft itself as a game is more iconic than the character. That's the difference between Steve and all the other characters. They have personality to them. (Even if DoomGuy's is self-insert rage.) Minecraft is definitely deserving and iconic, but I don't know if they deserve a representative fighter.

BONUS

>>15643253

>Earthworm Jim

As much as I hate to say it, his influence only extends as far as people who purposely spend their time playing old school games on the SNES. He's effectively locked in the past. His current existence in this world is truly weird, just like his games, some sort of video game limbo where he's remembered just enough, but not all to much at the same time. Iconic? Yes, but also no. It's weird. Truly a product of his time, but forever timeless of the era he represents.


866fe1  No.15644932

>>15644906

Doomguy and DooD in general is not often associated with Bethesda, so for him to be the Bethesda rep is unlikely. If they specifically wanted that, it would be Vault Boy or Dragonborn. DooDguy would be a rep of PC gaming if anything, and if that's what they wanted, I think Gordon Freeman is more likely.

The only way Doomguy's getting in is if they specifically want a Doom rep, and it's a strange one. Like Minecraft, it's an iconic and popular game but the character isn't that iconic.


db0d8a  No.15644952

>>15644885

I mained Bumper.


db0d8a  No.15644958

>>15644906

>She didn't really define any Nintendo console's library

To be fair, she did define the DSi library.


4a0457  No.15644969

>>15644906

Rayman's actual first appearance was on some failed console like the 3DO or the Jaguar, if I remember. Playstation version is the one that most people actually played though.


80651e  No.15644982

File: 816f3024cf147b1⋯.png (144.75 KB, 400x474, 200:237, samus point.png)

>>15644958

Honest to god the only reason I picked up those games in the first place.

I was still fairly young at the time, the idea of downloading games on a portable sounded rad and new.

But there wasnt much quality so I salvaged the few good ones available, shantae and bird & beans

Pretty fun

Also had a blast with Flipnote Hatena, its a shame its dead now.


866fe1  No.15644986

File: 11ff841f324691e⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 1.18 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, ClipboardImage.png)

File: b6bf28cca98d88f⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 29.06 KB, 350x350, 1:1, 1458152875041.jpg)

>>15644958

Shit, you want characters that defined a console's library? I have a console that has virtually no representation in Smash.


80651e  No.15644992

>>15644906

>>15644969

You know, Ray Man is one of those games I really loved when I was a kid and hes someone I thought would always have been cool in smash but is it odd that a majority of my experience with the series is the GBA games?

I remember liking them a lot but who knows if they hold up or were even good in the first place


80651e  No.15644999

>>15644986

>virtually no representation in Smash.

R.O.B.s got a whole outfit dedicated to that shit dont disrespect my robot like this


db0d8a  No.15645004

>>15644986

The Jack Bros. would be fantastic, but I'd rather have The Hero or Stephen playable so a greater variety of demons can be used.

>>15644982

Pyoro should be the second warioware rep, fuck everyone else.


80651e  No.15645027

File: 7942771ce514f50⋯.gif (921.71 KB, 480x284, 120:71, My Nigga Hug.gif)

>>15645004

>Pyoro should be the second warioware rep, fuck everyone else.

I have secretly wanted him to be an assist trophy for so long now

just a neat little niche assist


4a0457  No.15645030

>>15644992

I'm pretty sure the first GBA Rayman was just Rayman 1, or some variation of it.


780767  No.15645033

File: 88ee47e02443824⋯.jpg (157.21 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Spiral Mountain.jpg)

File: 331996c35d8b100⋯.jpg (222.17 KB, 640x480, 4:3, Bubblegloop Swamp.jpg)

File: e08d5b1dc3728c0⋯.jpg (107.77 KB, 1000x600, 5:3, Clanker's Cavern.jpg)

File: 10f479af0dbcd76⋯.jpg (79.99 KB, 800x450, 16:9, Mad Monster Mansion.jpg)

Y'all mention Banjo stages?

I don't know about the rest of you, but there's a very specific order in what levels of Banjo-Kazooie I happen to think of.

Mad Monster Mansion and Bubblegloop Swamp are among the highest or first levels I think of. Next, Freezeezy Peak and Gobi's Valley naturally second to each other. Then, Treasure Trove Cove and Clanker's Cavern, again 2 levels that came one after the other. Rusty Bucket Bay is in it's own category. It's iconic for the game itself, but it wouldn't be a fair representation for it. After that, Mumbo's Mountain and Click Clock Wood. The reason Click Clock Wood is so low is again for reasons like Rusty Bucket Bay. It's a fantastic level, but it's also very late into the game and I never got to it as a kid.

For a Banjo-Kazooie stage in Smash, I could honestly see it being a transforming stage that flips between levels. Starting off in Gruntilda's Lair or Spiral Mountain and making it's way through iconic scenes throughout the game. Fighting on top of Clanker. Trying to stay on the lilypads in Bubblegloop Swamp. Avoiding the Piano Hand in Mad Monster Mansion. Sliding along the Snowman's scarf in Freezeezy Peak. Flying on magic carpets near Jinxy. Etc. Sort of like a scrolling or moving stage, but not as hectic and chaotic. Personally if I had to pick one, Spiral Mountain is very obvious. Aside from that, Mad Monster Mansion or Freezeezy Peak. Although I think Click Clock Wood with a seasons mechanic would be fun.

There's also the possibility of Banjo-Land from Nuts & Bolts simply for the fact it incorporates everything about Banjo-Kazooie into one location.


80651e  No.15645053

>>15645030

I dont believe so, at least not the one I played.

It was a top-down grid based game from what I remember?

I might not have my facts right though


cb3619  No.15645064

File: ac9f52ee4629bbf⋯.jpg (36.44 KB, 400x400, 1:1, wario.jpg)

>>15644986

<VB has no reps

<brings up jack hoes

>forgets Wario Land VB exists


866fe1  No.15645072

>>15645064

>series that was on the GB, the GBA, the VB and the GC

>representative of anything other than itself


4a0457  No.15645076

>>15645053

There were other Rayman games on the GBA. I haven't played all of them, so I don't know.


cb3619  No.15645082

>>15645072

>Wario Land VB being the best VB game

<nah, it doesn't represent the VB


db0d8a  No.15645083

>>15645072

Yeah, considering that, SMT isn't necessarily representative of the Virtual Boy, and therefore the most Virtual Boy-specific franchise to bring into smash would be Teleroboxer.


866fe1  No.15645118

>>15645083

The difference is that Virtual Boy Wario Land is a typical Wario Land game. Jack Bros is different from any SMT game, and it's while it's not the only game where you can play as Jack Frost, Atlus' mascot, it is the only one anyone has ever cared about.

>>15645082

Yeah, and Link's Awakening is the best Zelda game but it hardly represents the Gameboy.


780767  No.15645156

File: 5d7c3f26a83b528⋯.jpg (500.02 KB, 1275x1920, 85:128, 5d7c3f26a83b528718bc67c91b….jpg)

>>15644932

Doom is iconic, you can't deny that. So much so, first person shooters were called "Doom-Clones" for awhile. Half-Life is more iconic as an entity than as a video-game. People know about it, but they don't say it's defining or all too influential in comparison. But somehow, I don't think I would be upset if either of them made it in over the other. Gordon definitely has the moveset potential and I think he would be fun to play as. Half-Life is another one of those Earthworm Jim scenarios that for some reason feel very weird to me.

I have a hard time imagining Vault Boy, he seems like he would be out of place for some odd reason. Who knows. But I won't rag on people for wanting him included, I can see the appeal. But for some reason my brain's trying to block the idea of Fallout and Smash Bros in the same visual thought.

I'm not all too opposed to Dragonborn either. But like all characters, we just have priority lists of who we'd personally like to see. Again he feel like a weird fit for some odd reason. But as long as there's a way to make any of these character work I'm all for it. I think variety is a good thing for Smash Bros, but if it's going to include all these PC games, I'd rather them be included all at once rather than having them separate or one over the other. You shouldn't have just one of them if you aren't going to include all the other ones on the same level. But that's what it comes to down to for me. If I had to pick only one character from PC games, it'd have to be DoomGuy.

>>15644958

I'll agree in some regards, I never had a DSi myself, but I still remember seeing a lot about Shantae and her game. I think her chances are decent but not for the base roster I feel, more so as DLC.

>>15644969

Same argument stands. I think he would've been included if he started and stayed on Nintendo platforms.


80e6d7  No.15645180

>>15644906

>Crash

Any shit from that retarded ass company needs to be completely killed off for it's faggotry. Even Crash and Spyro are expendable now and they were already dead before their remasters, just wonderful relics of a not shit time. Nothing has changed.

>mineshit is deserving

Just fuck off.


8dbd3c  No.15645210

>>15643172

She is NOT going to be on her bike the whole time, stop with this unrealistic and retarded expectation. She needs to be on foot in order for certain animations to even work on her. It's easy for you to picture her being on her bike the whole time because you haven't put much thought into how she'll actually work in the game. There are many things to consider such as her attacks extending beyond the hitbox of her bike, how big the hurtbox of her bike even is, how she'll grab onto ledges, how she'll be affected by items and moves that differ her animations, etc. When she's on her bike the whole time it doesn't work. The bike is going to be a special move. Deal with it.


cb3619  No.15645211

File: 597efcde5c68e3f⋯.png (131.87 KB, 450x275, 18:11, HappyMaskSalesman.png)

>>15645118

<thinks Link's Awakening is the best Zelda game

Sure, kid. Whatever you say.


b5f89f  No.15645220

>>15645210

It's as unrealistic as Choir Kids, and if the leaks are anything to go by, they'll somehow make them work. Being a bike will be no different.


4a0457  No.15645221

>>15645211

It's up there.


db0d8a  No.15645231

>>15645210

No anon. Being on her feet is the special move. It will work as her recovery and therefore allow her to grab ledges. Then her bike can repair itself like in the games as part of her animation for getting back on the ledge.


8dbd3c  No.15645238

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15643198

>Rayman

Possible, but doubtful. Especially since he's now playable in Brawlhalla (a mediocre Smash ripoff).

>Doomguy

Bethesda did talk to Nintendo about having Smash representation. But I'm not sure if Doomguy is all that plausible. Not only are his most iconic weapons hyper violent ballistic weapons or chainsaws, but his game is also steeped in religious iconography - the depictions of hell and demons in his games are based heavily on judeo-christian depictions of hell. I think he'd be a cool addition but it's an uphill battle.

>Crash

Why the hell not? He's "iconic" to Nintendo the same way Sonic is, known to be one of their rival's mascots. Throw Spyro in there too and reveal them side by side in the same trailer. I love Spyro.

>Shantae

Putrid indie whore from mediocre platformers loved mainly for the hentai. Next.

>Dragonborn

Pretty boring addition. I'm barely okay with Nintendo adding their own nameless player avatar characters to Smash, we don't need third parties to start doing it as well.

>Battletoads

Pretty cool, don't think they're likely though. Pimple would be my new main if he got in.

>Minecraft Steve

LOL

Do people still believe this faggot has a chance in hell? Stop deluding yourselves. Sakurai's got standards and this character doesn't meet them in any way whatsoever. Throw him in the trash, he's not EVER happening, guaranteed.


80651e  No.15645240

>>15645210

>>15645231

My bet is shes going to have a dedicated bike that she can jump off

her moves will work differently if she is on or off the bike.


3bb14b  No.15645247

>>15645220

>>15645231

You can bet your fucking ass her bike would be relegated to her specials. Do you realize how OP a fighter with such huge disjoints would be? Alternatively she'd have so much startup and lag, as well a terrible air mobility meaning she'd be absolutely bottom tier.


254bcc  No.15645251

>>15645210

You are like a petulant child spouting “deal with it”. I just thought I’d let you know.


8dbd3c  No.15645254

File: af6402ed81900a9⋯.png (227.6 KB, 704x571, 704:571, meowthglare.png)

>>15645220

>Just make up any utterly retarded bullshit idea

>DUHH THEY'LL MAKE IT WORK

Chorus Kids are a lot easier to make work than a character who never leaves their vehicle.


866fe1  No.15645256

>>15645156

I would not mind Doomguy at all, he'd be a fun addition, I'm just wondering how likely it is. For FPS reps, I'd want JC Denton, but I know that's not going to happen barring some divine intervention. Freeman and Doomguy are the two more likely ones. It's just a question of how he'd get in, as an FPS rep, a Bethesda rep or just a classic video game icon.


db0d8a  No.15645269

>>15645247

>Do you realize how OP a fighter with such huge disjoints would be?

You ask that now, but you're going to feel pretty retarded when we get Jason from Blaster Master inside Sophia III someday.


866fe1  No.15645282

>>15645269

>tiny car from a platformer game that doesn't control at all like a car

Not comparable.


db0d8a  No.15645301

>>15645282

It's not actually a tiny car though, at proper size it would fit into smash but be wider than Ridley while not being taller.


a9273d  No.15645330

File: 10a0fe8c35e20ea⋯.jpg (274.56 KB, 643x960, 643:960, The_Real_Masahiro_Sakurai.jpg)

File: bb5de7683a969f9⋯.png (272.79 KB, 700x394, 350:197, Masahiro_Sakurai.png)

File: d9a19edbb99c5b6⋯.jpg (86.39 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, Masahiro_Sakurai.jpg)

What if these leaks are fake and created by Sakurai to fuck with everyone until the actual reveal?


bb31b8  No.15645360

File: 4cf94e5f9e2f9a9⋯.png (40.48 KB, 152x254, 76:127, sickos.png)

I just thought of something. Isn't Kunio technically partially first-party thanks to Nintendo World Cup? Even if it's like 1%? It did get published overseas by Nintendo themselves and got the branding on it.

>>15645330

>Sakurai, being the master of enraging people, does this as one "final" prank on everyone

>mfw

I can believe it, absolutely fucking crazy as it is.


bb31b8  No.15645363

God damn flag.


a52d56  No.15645401

I'm so glad that the Grinch Leak completely murdered Steve's chances in Smash.

Once the direct happens I'll never have to worry about Stevefag's renders ever again


04344b  No.15645421

>>15645401

Steve will never be in Smash, but the leak could still be fake. It's easy to make fake leaks these days and all fake leaks tend to be blurry.


3bb14b  No.15645430

>>15645421

I still wonder, if the caption on the video said "fuck Nintendo lol" why didn't he make sure to provide a better quality leak?


04344b  No.15645440

>>15645430

The blurryness makes it look "legit". It's a recurring trend among fake leaks.


7d38a4  No.15645453

File: 56c5875f38804c5⋯.png (379.08 KB, 447x619, 447:619, 1540688700.png)

Went fishing in smashboards to find this. It had a cuckchan filename though.


1d44d6  No.15645457

>>15645440

It's the Bigfoot effect, but it makes even less sense nowadays. Yeah sure many phone cameras are shit but you'd think there'd be ONE leak out there someday in semi-decent quality.


b198e7  No.15645464

File: bfa5555325fa8b0⋯.jpg (12.93 KB, 480x480, 1:1, thinking pug.jpg)

>K. Rool and Ridley are in

>Geno and Isaac might be in

I don't know who to root for in DLC and future games now. They were the main characters I still wanted who never got in. I guess a Custom Robo rep would be nice, and maybe Wonder Red or Neku from TWEWY.


04344b  No.15645468

>>15645464

>Custom Robo rep

Would be hilarious if there's a Medabot rep. Too bad we never got Medabot 9 for 3DS.


b198e7  No.15645474

>>15645468

The only one I ever played was on GBA. It had Metabee and Rokusho versions and was a weird turn-based thing. I never beat it for one reason or another but it was fun.


04344b  No.15645487

>>15645474

Sucks the series never took off here. Hard to compete with Pokemon or Westerners probably don't like robots.


b198e7  No.15645491

>>15645487

I liked the idea behind the anime, but the only people out here who watched it were poor kids who only got local channels, like me.


fa2f53  No.15645499

>>15645468

Lipfag pls


a52d56  No.15645501

>>15645421

im just curious to resee those fucking awful renders again, they're so fucking bad


04344b  No.15645505

>>15645491

I watched the anime adaptation too, it was really fun. All the episodes are on YouTube with nobody aiming to DMCA them.

>>15645499

What?


b198e7  No.15645509

>>15645505

Nice. My tv show backlog is a bit full, though. I've been watching Kenny vs. Spenny since Kenny put the whole thing on Youtube.


04344b  No.15645520

>>15645509

Sucks that Nintendo has been Neglecting Custom Robo. The main series Medabot games are petty much Custom Robo but as JRPGs. We only got one main series RPG Medabot game and that's because the localize thought that the later games won't sell because it doesn't have the characters from the anime like Ikki, so they've been giving us some spinoffs instead like Medabots AX which has Ikki and such.


b198e7  No.15645525

>>15645520

I don't really keep up with Medabots stuff anymore. I did love the Custom Robo games that came to the west, though. The Gamecube one was like crack for me.


fa2f53  No.15645546

>>15645505

You know what


04344b  No.15645564

>>15645525

The closest thing to Custom Robo that got released to the West in the 3DS was LBX: Little Battler's Experience.


fc5ea6  No.15645574

>>15645546

Thats not lipfag.

He always outs himself out by his shitty list near the start of every thread along with the phrase "post em".

The guy you are talking to is just another friendly anon.

>>15645464

I still want Agumon in smash.

People almost completely forget the Digimon exists and Agumon would in fact blow peoples brains out from all over out of shock and amazement.

Agumon would be the Duck Hunt or Mr G&W of this game.


8dbd3c  No.15645604

File: 6c9a23bd98e3b02⋯.png (12.73 KB, 280x268, 70:67, ClipboardImage.png)

>>15645499

>Lipfag pls

Wasn't me pal.

Not my fault people can't tell your Custom Robo shit apart from Medabots.


666785  No.15645656

>>15644643

>Hell, at the time Banjo was something of a rival to Mario, since BK was really popular back then.

The absolute state of Banjofags.


8dbd3c  No.15645695

File: de7d728b64a00e1⋯.jpg (208.99 KB, 1169x796, 1169:796, fat-albert-halloween-speci….jpg)

>>15645656

>Banjo was a rival to Mario

Okay, Banjofags, you got your character in the game. Maybe it's time to stop talking before everyone sees you as a bunch of giant retards.


f6a035  No.15645904

>>15642982

>let's disguise the fact that we didn't localize the early games by cutting the first part of the credits


4a0457  No.15645911

>>15645695

>implying you remember the N64 era

I clearly remember having conversations with my friends over whether Nintendo or Rare made better games.


80651e  No.15645912

>>15645904

oh god you just shot me with weird memories of massive rants back on 4chan demanding rhythm heaven localization

I forgot that even happened for the longest time


80e6d7  No.15645925

>>15645574

If Agumon isn't WarGreymon, I don't give a shit.


8dbd3c  No.15645984

>>15645911

>being lectured on N64 era by a Wii-era dipshit who only played virtual console games

If anyone remembers anything from that era it's that Rare and Nintendo were synonymous with each other. I distinctly recall several reviews for Banjo from that time crediting Nintendo for making the game. So you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about you moron. Rare was basically carrying the N64 all on its own and were not even remotely "competing" with Nintendo.


fc5ea6  No.15645997

>>15645925

Agumon is the most Iconic Digimon.

He should also digi-volve as part of his moveset naturally.


80e6d7  No.15646046

>>15645997

WarGreymon is also the fucker everyone who watched the dub as a kid and loved Rumble Arena is gonna want to offer all the insanity of Digimon while having a perfectly transferable moveset that has literally nothing in common with Charizard.


5edb15  No.15646254

>>15643055

>>15643082

Sorry, meant to respond this morning, but the site was shitting itself. I'd already checked Spriters resource and hadn't seen a plant sheet. It does look a lot like the Stage 1 of the vine growth animation, though still different. But perhaps it's a factor of rendering something like that into a 3d engine. Assuming that is what it's meant to be, anyhow.


5516cf  No.15646260

>>15645925

Agumon could work pretty much like pokemon trainer since it can freely switch forms by itself. No reason to lock him into a single form.


4a0457  No.15646277

>>15645984

>taking it this literally

Obviously they weren't competitors like Mario and Sonic or Crash were competitors, but their was friendly discussion over whether Mario 64 or Banjo Kazooie was the better game. Fucking hell.


80e6d7  No.15646289

>>15646260

Agumon, Greymon, Metal Greymon and WarGreymon have way too many differences not to be absolute hell designing complete movesets for, even DLCshit.


e3f88c  No.15646294

>>15643856

i can respect people preferring a flat chest when it comes to lolis however i just love tits and i prefer oppai loli


5516cf  No.15646300

>>15646289

You could say the same for Pokemon Trainer and they brought him back. In and case I doubt we'd get Digimon since those games have never had a strong presence on nintendo consoles but you never know


8dbd3c  No.15646306

>>15646277

Both of them were overrated piles of shit and the nostalgia of you N64 babies is the only thing keeping them in discussion


e3f88c  No.15646314

>>15646300

>when yugioh and magic the gathering join the battle, alfonzo40k is in charge of irl lootboxes


4a0457  No.15646319

>>15646306

Your opinion on the games is also irrelevant to the fact that Mario and Banjo were considered to be on pretty much the same level for a short period of time. Stop being mad.


8dbd3c  No.15646320

>>15646319

They were on the same level being utter shit. No one's disputing that.


4a0457  No.15646322

>>15646320

t. Gex fan


a1156b  No.15646366

File: d13a6cceeeb12cc⋯.webm (8.85 MB, 426x240, 71:40, Wargreymon in Applimon.webm)

>>15646300

>>15646289

I'd be vouching that Wargreymon would be the choice due to:

>1: Digimon is catering to it's long time fans

>2: Wargreymon, aside from being very unique to the rest of the cast, would also be prone to gaining the echo of the edgelord Black Wargreymon

Still, it'd be all for naught if Braveheart isn't playing during his trailer.


80e6d7  No.15646368

File: e27fe96a73235b8⋯.jpg (19.79 KB, 427x424, 427:424, e27fe96a73235b8ec2d12e8af0….jpg)

>>15646306

Alright, maybe this "Lipfag" fuck is a faggot.


b5f89f  No.15646412

File: 8b96a957af7d33a⋯.gif (1.14 MB, 480x358, 240:179, stop-it.gif)

>GameXplain still on the fence for the sprout item

<LOL it still could be anything guys!!!!!!

>meanwhile in the comments

<I matched it up with the in-game sprites and the colors are different, FAKE AND GAY

Why do I have to share the same ozone layer with these morons?


f2201b  No.15646425

File: c9d5ea903bbf834⋯.jpeg (96.37 KB, 600x600, 1:1, arle flower crown.jpeg)

>>15646306

>>15646368

You really are gunning to alienate the entire board, aren't you Lipfag?


8dbd3c  No.15646436

>>15646425

Someone's gotta prevent these threads from being an echo chamber of retards with shit opinions.


e3f88c  No.15646442

>>15646366

>start of the video

>airhorns

is it because this cuntmousemon is trying to kill them with a snes controller?


4a0457  No.15646443

>>15646436

Like including a character who appeared exclusively in the Japanese version of a puzzle game 30 years ago?


4a0457  No.15646448

File: 85110943cb1f664⋯.png (1.22 MB, 800x800, 1:1, ClipboardImage.png)

When's Mr Pants, tbh?


8dbd3c  No.15646452

File: c78f5b705ad40bb⋯.png (195.76 KB, 430x394, 215:197, ClipboardImage.png)

>>15646443

>30 years ago

Actually, Panel de Pon celebrated its 23rd anniversary today. So no, still a ways off from 30.

Meanwhile we're getting Mach Rider who is 33 years old and hasn't had a game since her first one.


4a0457  No.15646460

>>15646452

Mach Rider is a better character from a better game, with more combat potential than a fairy who doesn't do anything.


8dbd3c  No.15646462

>>15646460

You got pretty greedy with that bait, huh?


4a0457  No.15646467

>>15646462

A mascot character you don't even play as in the game. How is that a fighter?


8dbd3c  No.15646469

>>15646467

A woman who never leaves her bike. How is that a fighter?


4a0457  No.15646471

>>15646469

The bike has guns on it.


80e6d7  No.15646474

>>15646471

Doesn't she brutally mow down anyone with it considering she wants revenge?


8dbd3c  No.15646480

>>15646471

And Lip is magic. She battles dragons and monsters and demons in her game. So your argument is that "lorewise Mach Rider might be a fighter", which applies to Lip equally well.


e3f88c  No.15646481

File: 3885b3ffab05479⋯.jpg (178.77 KB, 600x550, 12:11, c84d2606420863de5712755b41….jpg)

>>15646471

they could give lip guns if thats the issue


4a0457  No.15646490

>>15646480

My argument is in Mach Rider you shoot at guys with gun, and in Panel de Pon, you play Tetris Attack instead because it doesn't have gay fairies.


8dbd3c  No.15646493

File: 792d9cb3a1214f8⋯.png (705.18 KB, 736x715, 736:715, ClipboardImage.png)

>>15646490

No it has an even gayer dragon.


4a0457  No.15646499

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Mr Pants is actually a more iconic and important character than Lip.


f6a035  No.15646500

I'd rather play as Dr. Robotnik, Arle, or fucking Tetris blocks over an elf midget.


e3f88c  No.15646503

you cant just go around talking that much shit about lolis


91ef7d  No.15646504

File: 5f91ee2135011d1⋯.png (223.04 KB, 661x454, 661:454, 1538433941982.png)

DANCE, PUPPETS, DANCE


bb31b8  No.15646505

File: 4bbdf6d0ccb42fd⋯.png (109.88 KB, 261x264, 87:88, grinning homer.png)

These nigs arguing over the better retro rep when Kunio has everyone beat. Then again, it's always worth arguing over who deserves to be his bottom bitch more :^)


8dbd3c  No.15646510

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15646500

I too would rather play as Eggman over Young Link. Why isn't he in the game?


f2201b  No.15646514

>>15646436

Then forgive me for interrupting you on your holy duty.


f19349  No.15646529

File: c910edc606c91e8⋯.jpeg (56.45 KB, 600x700, 6:7, 1470734660986.jpeg)

>tfw chibi robo will never ever get in smash

I wish nintendo realized that no one wanted to play shitty spin offs of the game, but I guess it will forever be ignored.


b5f89f  No.15646538

>>15646529

It's a shame only you and your mom have ever played that series.

I've played it to, 'cuz I'm your dad.


bb31b8  No.15646554

>>15646538

TIME TO PAY YOUR ALIMONY AND CHILD SUPPORT FUCKER


b5f89f  No.15646558

>>15646554

You must be 18 or older to post here.


bb31b8  No.15646562

>>15646558

>implying the child support isn't for my next kid who I'm claiming is yours


170fdf  No.15646583

>>15641083

Why does this fucking ugly lovechild of Leisure Suit Larry and a sister he never knew he had pass himself off as that default MOINECRAP skin?


bb31b8  No.15646593

>>15646583

Because Notch is a lazy but successful nigger. I've seen those beta avatars posted every once in a while but I never saved them. While they weren't perfect they sure as shit were far better than what we've got today.


6e4644  No.15646601

>>15643387

Compared to other turn-based RPGs on the GBA at the time, Golden Sun 1 and 2 were far more interesting than the competition. Djinn and the their interactions with both the summoning system and your player class made the game much more dynamic and unique in combat. You had to scour the world for djinn to even hope to beat some of the later bosses, let alone the final and secret bosses. In theory you can make characters change class mid-battle with a well crafted djinn set-up and be effective, not many RPGs of the era can boast that.

The best part is their acquisition, more often than not, you'll find a djinn just sitting in some out of the way spot. It's both the clue that there's a puzzle nearby and the reward - provided that you can subdue it. Djinn are not only effective power-ups but they reward the player for exploration and puzzle solving.

Djinn are, in my mind, the most important feature in Golden Sun in distinguishing it from other turn-based RPGs.


a3706a  No.15646717

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15646306

>Implying Mario 64 is bad

Fuck off Henry


8dbd3c  No.15646777

File: 282d8062a1682cb⋯.png (357.57 KB, 480x360, 4:3, ClipboardImage.png)

>>15646717

IT SUCKED, DUNKEY

IT WAS A BAD GAME, DUNKEY

THE N64 WAS A FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT, DUNKEY


a3706a  No.15646798

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15646777

>Implying


8dbd3c  No.15646823

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15646798

>Supremely autistic fans means it's a good game


6419b6  No.15646827

>>15646601

You're forgetting that they had a lot of cool uses by themselves in combat, and came with the drawback of lowering your stats and possibly giving you an undesired class when used, forcing you to be careful with how you used them. They really were what made the games shine when the rest of the combat was an unbalanced mess.


2ebcb9  No.15646836

File: 40a9b6cede8ac1b⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 923.46 KB, 1561x1208, 1561:1208, Commission: Puzzle Girls P….png)

>>15646368

Lipfag is a disgrace to all fairy fanatics


9533b6  No.15646841

File: 81bcb95b74a40d3⋯.png (24.3 KB, 292x334, 146:167, squint.png)

>>15646836

>commission

>someone paid money for this


2ebcb9  No.15646846

File: 7cfe19999a9e1b1⋯.jpg (760.45 KB, 916x1200, 229:300, 謎のザコ敵(♀)<スマブラDX>を何故か書いてみまし….jpg)

>>15646841

good thing we don't have to pay to download images.


fc7767  No.15646975

I'm gonna follow up my previous comment about potential Western DLC by making a list of the most likely first party and Japanese third party characters. I want to hear your thoughts on these lists as well. These lists assume Grinch leak is real.

1st Party:

1) Black Shadow (echo)

2) Black Knight (echo)

3) Bandana Dee

4) Spring-Man

5) Rex and Pyra

6) Medusa (echo)

7) Gen 7/8 Pokemon

Nip Third Party:

1) Lloyd Irving

2) Sora

3) Crono

4) SNK Rep (preferably Terry or Geese)

5) Heihachi Mishima

6) Yo Kai Watch rep

7) Amaterasu

8) Dante

9) Dr Robotnik

10) Tails

11) Nights

12) Ryu Hayabusa


fc7767  No.15646976

>>15646975

Forgot to add Klonoa for 3rd party


1fcad4  No.15647033

File: 0d9f4fcee74b680⋯.jpg (101.43 KB, 690x450, 23:15, 31530595_big_p6.jpg)

>>15640908

these are the same people who accidentally leaked Ganondorf back in the Smash 4 days (he was off screen in the tiny bubble) and had to completely reupload the trailer just to scrub it since he wasn't officially announced yet.

>>15642655

>>15642662

>>15642669

>>15642871

>>15642898

They didn't get any ex-rare guys for K. Rool and didn't even bother to contact them, why would they for Banjo?


f4e62e  No.15647055

>>15642655

Looks like they might get Japanese composers to work on the Banjo soundtrack instead.


a1156b  No.15647168

>>15646442

pretty much. The episode was about an Applimon taking characters from vidya games and using them as minions. Too bad he didn't research that Digimon originated as vidya.


d0d8d9  No.15647228

>>15646975

>wanting the roster to get blacked

no thanks

This is a proper DLC list:

>Finishing the ballot

1) Paper Mario

2) Bandana Dee

3) Skull Kid

4) Dixie Kong (ballot, supposedly cut)

5) Sora (Third Party)

6) Lloyd Irving

7) Shantae (Third Party)

Proper additions:

8) Dragon Quest rep (Third Party)

9) Shin megami tensei rep (Third Party_

10) Ray 01 (supposedly cut)

11) Monster Hunter rep (supposedly cut) (Third Party rep)

12) Advanced Wars rep (Third Party rep)

Echo additions:

None because fuck echoes.

and lastly a gen7/8 pokemon to appeal to the children

Rex And Pyra would also be good DLC


780767  No.15647258

File: 0e1cab444607aad⋯.jpg (77.29 KB, 635x636, 635:636, 0e1cab444607aadbbc84f2322f….jpg)

>>15645256

As a classic video game icon I'd think, that's a good enough reason to include anyone in Super Smash Bros. now. I forgot to mention Doom has been a handful of Nintendo systems unlike the other characters. SNES, N64, GBA, Switch. Doom 64 was also a unique entry in the series. I'd say his chances are fairly good.

I'd still like some PC reps, as doubtful as they'd be. PC games never had the same amount of character or mascot power as console games did. Although stage, assists, trophies, etc would still be appreciated.

How likely is Duke Nukem?

>>15645464

More obscure or unloved Nintendo characters obviously. Or other third parties who are just as iconic or more so than Nintendo's own characters.

>>15646368

He's more than just a Lipfag, it'd be a good idea to filter him whenever given the chance. He only wants Lip and other girl characters in the game so he can jack off.

>>15646505

Bubble Bobble would be a good retro rep, but I also want Kunio.


975aef  No.15647372

>>15647228

Advance Wars counts as third party?


780767  No.15647373

File: 37acfac9adf8a22⋯.png (80.51 KB, 354x432, 59:72, this kills the paper mario.png)

>>15647228

>Paper Mario

Situational. He's definitely worth it, but it needs cooperation between Sakurai, Miyamato, and Intelligent Systems and if they're willing to incorporate his N64 and TTYD style over what's current. But I think he would've been included earlier if they didn't have decisions to opt for other characters like Wario, Diddy Kong, Dedede, etc. I think his likelihood is something that increases with every character added as they're getting equally iconic characters out of the way.

>Bandana Dee

???? Utimately Sakurai's decision. I don't fans or fan outcry should be a factor in all of this, but rather what the character adds to their respective series and their overall influence and iconic status. Bandana Dee doesn't have much relevance in the Kirby series to begin with other than a 4th player slot for Return to Dreamland. I'd rather prefer Marx or Dark Matter.

>Skull Kid

No one really cared about him until leakbait said he was in Smash Bros.. For that reason, I don't think he's likely or should be included. I'd hardly call Skull Kid alone the most iconic aspect of Majora's Mask. If we needed more Zelda characters I'd rather get Mask Link, Tingle, or Beast Ganon (From LttP).

>Dixie Kong

Likely, even more likely since she was cut, meaning Sakurai might be wanting to spend the time making her an original fighter and not an Echo. She did have her very own game after all. There was also a point in time in which DKC seemed to be along Nintendo's Big 3 franchises. It was of course Mario, DKC, & Zelda on the SNES.

>Sora

???? I don't know how to respond to this one. But I personally wouldn't want him.

>Lloyd Irving

Again, I can't tell. It hasn't remained that notable or iconic, but if I remember correctly, it was a big deal when it came out and iconic for it's time. But if we're talking something along the lines of saving the Tales Of series or being the first game released outside of Japan then I could see reason for him to be included. It's another Cloud situation where Lloyd definitely is the most iconic character of his respective series, but there's debate if it's worth representing said series.

>Shantae

Refer to my previous post on this sort of thing.

>Rex/Pyra

Personally, no. I wouldn't call them that notable of characters either. Again, I don't think fan outcry should have that much weight specifically for this reason. They're contemporary and who knows if they'll even be remembered the same way in a couple years compared to classics.

The rest of them have about the same chances. But I wouldn't know how to implement a SMT or Advance Wars rep.


f4e62e  No.15647398

>>15647258

Duke getting in depends on Randy Pitchford unfortunately


b5f89f  No.15647861

So what about Ice Climbers made it so difficult to incorporate on the 3DS? Anyone know the details?


bb31b8  No.15647884

>>15647258

Bubble Bobble would be a great choice too, honestly. Make 'em have the Ice Climbers gimmick but give them entirely different moves. Especially fast and slow-paced bubbles for some real tricky projectiles.

>>15647861

Apparently it was just the 3DS's shitty limitations on adding some decent Nana AI alongside everything else it had to display on one screen.


4a0457  No.15647890

File: 7b6b542595382a9⋯.png (14.43 KB, 543x488, 543:488, jerry.png)

>>15642655

>Banjo's music is not its strong suit


b5f89f  No.15647893

>>15647033

>They didn't get any ex-rare guys for K. Rool and didn't even bother to contact them, why would they for Banjo?

Not even Grant?


666785  No.15647909

>>15647861

If I remember right, having to render 8 characters on the screen at once if everyone picked ICs during a 4-player battle. There's a reason that 8-player Smash only ever made it into the Wii U version.


d0d8d9  No.15647917

>>15647372

>Advance Wars counts as third party?

No, I fucked up. My bad anon

>>15647373

You make a good point about Rex/Pyra. Then again, Sakurai has made decisions in favor of contemporary additions. See: Ike, Lucario, Flavor pokemon of the gen, Lucina/Robin, etc. This is mainly prevalent for Fire emblem and Pokemon.


26695e  No.15647936

Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15647893

Why would you want Grant, considering this is the level of quality he provides nowadays?


d0d8d9  No.15647942

>>15647373

How the FUCK would Marx work? He's more suited to be a boss fight. I don't think we need more kirby reps. We can have a Dark Metaknight as echo with different mirror-themed specials, but that's about it. And I don't want characters to inflate the roster with "Dark" or "Black" on their name, because it really homogenizes it.

The best Kirby Newcomer would be Adeline and Ribbon.

Dixie Kong should actually rep the DKC series with barrels and animal buddies. Diddy already uses attacks that are not part of DKC. Dixie should do it.


d0d8d9  No.15647949

>>15647936

The only one we need is David Wise. He can work with Sakurai's team to smashify his tunes.


4a0457  No.15647956

>>15647936

>joke song that was supposed to be corny on purpose, and isn't even that badly composed


b5f89f  No.15647969

>>15647909

8-player Smash is hard to follow anyway.


4a0457  No.15648037

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15647936

What's wrong with this exactly? Kind of derivative of Banjo Kazooie, maybe, but then that was the entire point of the game.


d58fc3  No.15648078

How viable would it be if, for Isaac's moveset, all of his special moves consist of one of the moves that changes a particular djinni from set to standby, so that his smash attacks could all be Psynergy moves that change to others as he changes what djinni he has on standby? What would all of his smash attacks be in this case, and would it be fine to make it so that he could then choose between tapping B for a special move to set the djinni again or hold the button down to summon Venus/Mars/Jupiter/Mercury as attacks at the cost of waiting a few seconds before the djinni sets again?


866fe1  No.15648091

>>15647956

>DK rap has some clever lyrics

>YL rap is full of forced rhymes that make no real sense and are just LOL SO RANDUMB

>>15648037

It's fucking bland, that's the biggest problem. Listen to the song a hundred times and you still won't be able to hum it. I think Banjo is fucking cancer and Kirkhope is the worst of Rare composers but even I'll say that Kazooie and Tooie had some very memorable music.


a1156b  No.15648112

File: e6b79def34b2e94⋯.webm (15.78 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Kirby Planet Robobot Gala….webm)

>>15647942

Marx is playable in Star Allies. A character is as powerful or as weak as the game dev wants them to be, or did you notice Kirby can't fly forever and Samus can't spam Spazer+Plasma+wave beams? That said, i'd prefer Galacta Knight. I was hoping he'd show up in Star allies as playable but he just gets cucked into a piss easy butterfly and we don't even get a decent boss fight.


a1156b  No.15648123

File: 789657ceaeaa799⋯.webm (11.04 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Donkey Kong Country Tropi….webm)

>>15648037

as >>15648091 said, it's unremarkable. While it may have the "tune" of BK, it has no staying power. Compare this to ANY of the music from Dong Freeze.


4a0457  No.15648132

>>15648123

Not even saying Wise isn't the better composer, but I don't see what's wrong with that.


866fe1  No.15648138

File: 5a8cd075a76e251⋯.png (231.68 KB, 639x408, 213:136, 5a8cd075a76e2511306e90c97c….png)

>>15648123

>David Wise is not doing the soundtrack to the new Battletoads

It hurts.


666785  No.15648144

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15647942

Easy. He's a little overpowered in Star Allies but they already worked out a boss-based moveset for him. It would just need some tweaking to fit into Smash.


5d89dd  No.15648151

>>15647936

I agree, he does suck now. It's all that same stifled background orchestra shit. Robin Beanland was an incredible composer on Conker and Nuts and Bolts. He's what Grant Kirkhope should be right now.


8b8460  No.15648154

>>15647956

>joke song that was supposed to be corny on purpose

What made DK rap fun is that it was legitimate and new sorta new. This "ironic" shit needs to die in San Francisco.


866fe1  No.15648160

>>15648151

I heard he did the OST to Sea of Thieves. How's that? Never heard any of the music in that.


5d89dd  No.15648161

>>15648154

Yooka-Laylee's soundtrack as a whole sucks.


a1156b  No.15648162

File: 8e89395d5aa3413⋯.webm (8.11 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Donkey Kong Country Tropi….webm)

>>15648132

Staying power is the meat of a song. It's catchy, you want to hear it outside of the context you first heart it in, you instantly conjure up images of a theme that was held by the music


4a0457  No.15648163

>>15648154

>walnuts, peanuts, pineapple smells

>grapes, melons, oranges, and coconut shells

>aw yeah


5d89dd  No.15648168

>>15648160

It's shanties are really good, most of it is just background ambiance, though. His music is one of the saving graces of Sea of Thieves.


4a0457  No.15648169

>>15648162

Some tracks are supposed to convey atmosphere, more than being just a catchy piece of music on their own. That piece conveys the feeling of an oppressive industrial environment.


866fe1  No.15648177

>>15648161

My biggest fault with it aside for memorability is the mismatch of styles. Freeze Dong is nearly all comfy and ambient, Banjo is nearly all Kirkhope-esque, I'm not certain of the style but it has one.

Laylee has a bit of Kirkhope, some random ambiance here and there and some and just random shit by some fag no one ever heard of.

>>15648168

Well, shit, I'll take a listen. His work in Conker was fucking phenomenal.


8b8460  No.15648184

>>15648163

Again, faggot, the original wasn't trying to be some shit nostalgia callback. It was accidentally corny, not ironically.There's a lot more heart in the DK rap and it's a lot less stilted. Did you back that shit game?


d9b430  No.15648185

>>15648112

>>15647942

>>15648144

If we get another Kirby rep, it should be Marx. Kirby needs an actual villain rep, all we got now is 2 "friendly rival"-types.


4a0457  No.15648186

>>15648177

That's kind of the problem with Yooka Laylee as a project. It's the "let's bring back Rare platformers" game, that forgets to have an identity of it's own.


a1156b  No.15648201

File: b4d7fc2c17c17a8⋯.webm (14.75 MB, 426x240, 71:40, Yooka-Laylee Is A Failure….webm)

>>15648169

it sounds more akin to a lazy rip of Gruntilda's castle and makes me wish I was hearing that tune instead. It's no secret YL is trying to be a BK clone, but it comes off as being sterile and… well, lacking soul.


5edb15  No.15648202

File: e664b2929d7af0a⋯.jpg (212.1 KB, 818x800, 409:400, 09c6a44cda2cdf686d979dfa74….jpg)

File: 7aa03d0e12fdae6⋯.jpg (49.07 KB, 730x900, 73:90, 1369787371795.jpg)

>>15647373

Personally, Cress would be a better representative of Tales, being the original protagonist. Yuri and Leon are also stupid popular in Japan, but disregarding PXZ, the upcoming Vesperia remaster, and crossover escort titles like Narikiri Dungeon 2, 3, and Reve Unitia, have not had main showings on a Nintendo system (and Leon isn't even protagonist of his game). Obviously I would say a DLC rep should have debuted on Nintendo, which leaves a smaller handful (looking specifically at main series): Cress, Lloyd, Ruca, Shing, and Asbel. Asbel is fairly popular with Japan, but the west only got him on the extended PS3 port, the Wii version of Graces being left overseas, was a buggy mess that required recall and reprint because no patching, and the PS3 version having more content (and also patching if needed). The west never officially got Ruca's game in any format (DS was fan translated though), and Shing is relegated to the Vita here (and renamed "Kor", a baffling move amidst many bad moves when it blatantly clashed with the game being Jap dub only). That leaves Cress and Lloyd as being well known in both east and west and associated with Nintendo systems, though Lloyd is better known here on account of the GBA port of Phantasia being trash and the other English options all fan-translated (and not counting the garbage money hungry iPort that we did once get). Of note though, while using rather similar artesets in their own games, both play differently enough: Cress using a single sword (with shield in the SFC and PS1 versions) and slower style, while Lloyd has two swords (which does not mean he's got double the power, as he believes) and faster style. Could honestly make for an interesting variance and include both. Not that I like the notion of paid DLC, and if done, would rather both be included as a bundle.

Also, Symphonia mainly saved Tales here in the west, by way of NoA doing something right for once, fronting the bill to bring it over and marketing it, which Namco had failed at with the PS1 games (which sold abysmally here), and showing them that there was indeed a solid market here they hadn't tapped. And then they carried on not marketing very well until Xillia.

>being the first game released outside of Japan

That would be Tales of Destiny for the PS1, the second game in the series, which was also the game that really cemented the series in Japan. We also got Tales of Eternia, also for the PS1, and renamed to Tales of Destiny II, here before Symphonia. Symphonia was just the first time the series picked up noticeable steam here, both via actual marketing and not as much JRPG competition on the system as prior with the PS1.


4a0457  No.15648206

>>15648184

The entire point of Yooka Laylee was to be a nostalgia callback, which I would have opted against, but you're going to condemn Grant for writing the DK rap again, when he was tasked to write the DK rap again?


a1156b  No.15648209

File: 26fd417cd8f158e⋯.webm (15.36 MB, 426x240, 71:40, Yooka-Laylee Is A Failure….webm)

>>15648186

Indeed, and it fails to remember the basic steps of how a game should be structured or what made BK enjoyable.


e3f88c  No.15648214

>>15648184

> It was accidentally corny

i dont believe it


bb31b8  No.15648223

File: 7a62d1252feb1e9⋯.png (326.11 KB, 810x602, 405:301, the jew cries.png)

>>15648138

Fuck I hope the new Battletoads doesn't get JUSTed. The last thing I need is the series soiled while shill– I mean perfectly normal fans go WOW BATTLETOADS FOR SMASH WOULDN'T THAT BE CRAZY HAHA

Not that it's a bad concept per se but nonetheless


4a0457  No.15648229

>>15648214

Grant has outright said he made it stupid on purpose, because the whole idea of a Donkey Kong rap is so ridiculous. Some people at Rare were even annoyed at him for it, because they were expecting something "cool".


866fe1  No.15648243

>>15648223

That's the problem, we know nothing about it. Hell, I had to email David Wise personally to ask about that, and that's the only information that has been released about the game since E3's non-specific reveal thing.

Can't deny that I was quite excited when I saw it there, just because of how fucking unexpected it was. Was watching it with a buddy and he didn't believe me when I said it at first. But since then, the worry has set in. It's a Windows 10/Xbox One exclusive, after all.


8b8460  No.15648248

>>15648206

>The entire point of Yooka Laylee was to be a nostalgia callback,

And that is where and why it failed. That and being a kickstarter project.

> but you're going to condemn Grant for writing the DK rap again,

I did no such thing. I'm pointing out the big difference between the original and the retread, and why the new rap is so grating in comparison.


5d89dd  No.15648256

>>15648177

Windmill Hills is one of my favorite DK songs.

>>15648209

Almost everything about it sucks. Considering the budget it should be no surprise. It's a 3rd party indie game that happened to have some well-regarded Rare devs on it. At it's time, Banjo-Kazooie was a highly polished AAA game, and if Yooka-Laylee was released during that time it would be among other turd-party licensed movie games in a bargain bin. I'm one of the biggest Rare fans in the world, and I didn't back it because I knew there was no chance of it living up to 1990's Rare platformers.


866fe1  No.15648274

>>15648256

>Windmill Hills is one of my favorite DK songs.

Good taste. Busted Bayou, Amyss Abyss and Seashore War are phenomenal as well, and TF has the only cover of Aquatic Ambiance that I don't despise.

Fun sidenote, I recall in some interview, David Wise said in regards to the names of his songs that he never came up with them. So Aquatic Ambiance to him was just "the water level song" and so on, and they were labeled based on the stages which were named by the other devs.


80e6d7  No.15648404

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>>15647942

>How the FUCK would Marx work?

Like this.


80e6d7  No.15648413

>>15648144

Don't tell them, faggot.


b198e7  No.15648818

>>15648123

>>15648162

Man, I own the cheaper version of Tropical Dong on the Wii U (Greatest Hits or whatever) but I'd probably get the Switch version too if I saw it used somewhere. That game is great.

>>15648201

>SSFF

Nice. I like his Punching Weight series.


b5f89f  No.15648941

I gotta ask, just to make sure. Does saying Yes or No during cutscenes in Golden Sun affect anything in TLA? I just wanna fast-foward through all the dialogue in VBA-M, since I already know all of the story.


12ffc5  No.15649083


80651e  No.15649087

File: 5879c60b800ec21⋯.jpg (85.15 KB, 1033x679, 1033:679, Gaze my Nigga.jpg)

File: c0531399cc1b880⋯.jpg (117.15 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, Evil Incarnate.jpg)

>All these people wanting MARX in

Now this is the shit that I am talking about.

I dont think his chances are particularly likely, but with this leak and the newcommers we already got I have gotten pretty much every main character ive wanted in since I was but a we lad.

Other characters are naturally going to take their place as 'wanted' and now I think Marx would be fucking perfect.


dc2699  No.15649295

>>15648941

You can end the game in 5 minutes if you select no during one of them.


e3f88c  No.15649466

File: 0be2b4f6b381b7f⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 820.11 KB, 1712x6157, 1712:6157, 8ef3d6b7615262480f68c85799….jpg)


db0d8a  No.15649515

>>15649466

Would Gooey work as a Kirby echo?


b5f89f  No.15649579

>>15649295

Do you remember which one? Was it the talk in the Vale Sanctuary after Mt. Aleph erupts?


e3f88c  No.15649582

>>15649515

they would have to change a lot of the A moves to be either tongue based or based off of different powers unless they want it to look stupid.


80e6d7  No.15649598

>>15649087

I still want Bandana Dee more than anything.

The fact he's a distinctive grunt is literally the appeal. He is literally just another guy who lives in the same world that actually managed to join and keep up with the champions and without any kind of fancy heritage or even weapon. Just picked up a spear, trained hard to use it, developed all kinds of skills and tagged along with Kirby, Dedede and Meta Knight to help save the cosmos. All he needs is a proper name, a little more character (acting cocky and blowing kisses to a crowd before a punching contest with Kirby) and putting that literal earthshattering strength to more individual use. I'm not ashamed he's an enemy turned into a friend and would even love Koopa Troopa or Paratroopa (just make the fucking shell green to keep the character iconic) as playable.

Only Marx is hard to decide over because he's just about the franchise's own fucking Frieza at this point and the chaotic playstyle and personality he brings to Super Smash Bros ontop of being an oldschool villain with his own flavor is through the roof.


db0d8a  No.15649620

>>15649582

>they would have to change a lot of the A moves to be either tongue based or based off of different powers unless they want it to look stupid.

Ah, right. Especially since Gooey has no feet for kicking.


8dbd3c  No.15649669

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>>15647890

Yeah sorry Anon, I know the truth hurts, but Banjo's music is mostly dog shit and the amount of good tracks between games can be counted on a single hand.

OFFICIAL RARE COMPOSER HIERARCHY:

David Wise > Robin Beanland > Graeme Norgate > David Clynick > Eveline Fischer >>>>>>>>>>> [QUALITY GAP] >>>>>>>>>>>> Diarrhea Noises > Puppies burning in a shoebox > Grant Kirkhope

>>15649598

>Hat Goombafag is still here

Begone from my sight with your shit taste worm.


db0d8a  No.15649699

>>15649598

But anon, the "distinctive grunt turned noteworthy character" spot is reserved for Firebrand, who came first in that regard.


d0d8d9  No.15649717

>>15648144

he seems OP as fuck

I could see him in smash


80e6d7  No.15649761

>>15649669

>hurr nonexistent buzzwords

>no argument or rebuttal

Kill yourself, retard.


8dbd3c  No.15649797

>>15649761

>LEL STOP USING BUZZWERD IM TOO STUPIED TO READ OR UNDERSTAND ANYTHING U SAY

Go back to reddit dipshit


b5f89f  No.15649805

So is the leak real?


8dbd3c  No.15649806

>>15649805

Most likely.


b5f89f  No.15649808

>>15649806

How likely? Like, can we have a round-up of the evidence again for reassurance?


866fe1  No.15649828

>>15649805

>>15649808

It was always a bit of a reach. The leak itself looks plausible, though the character choice I'd call dubious at best (no fucking way in hell they'd include Chorus Kids and Mach Rider at the same time, I'd think)

As for the evidence, the gist of it is that this was taken from a print shop that did work for Bandai Namco. Already dubious because Nintendo would be handling promo work, not BN for this, but okay, a connection exists somewhat. However, later evidence shows that the leaker left the company two years ago (if I'm not mistaken). He works at another print/promo company, however that company has never done work related in any way to Smash, Nintendo, HAL or even BN. The closest they have done to video games was for one of the Assassins Creed games.

It seems like a lot of people jumped on it here because they WANT to believe. The characters that got confirmed are all characters that someone here wanted. Hell, the least requested character amongst regulars in these threads is Ken, and I don't think anyone's particularly against him. Quite a few wanted Geno, quite a few wanted Banjo, quite a few wanted Isaac, at least a few wanted Shadow, at least a few wanted Mach Rider, and Chorus Kids are just a fun character that a few anons have floated around as an idea before. I'm sure I missed something but that's just my general thoughts on it.

Can't wait for Isaac to get confirmed and have all the autists screech about how the leak was true all along, to get BTFO. Banjo never ever.


780767  No.15649829

>>15647884

Exactly what I was thinking, but instead of being exactly like Ice Climbers they share damage but would be able to give moves different effects based on who's attacking. Their Final Smash could be Puzzle Bobble / Bust-A-Move.


80e6d7  No.15649844

>>15649699

Kirby has more than enough success, love and diversity to get newcomers. Dark Matter, Marx, Gooey, Galacta Knight (can't slash means no Echo) or Bandana Dee would all be perfect.


866fe1  No.15649847

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>>15649829

>>15647884

Post best versions of the Bubble Bobble theme.


780767  No.15649909

>>15649808

>Banjo-Kazooie trademark was renewed

>Other marketing materials present

>Leaker confirmed to be a real person

>Mach Rider uses Arcade color scheme

>Chorus Kids rumored to be in Smash 4 previously

>Printing machine fits the design of the papers in the leaked images

>Video showcasing the printing machine has been removed

>Multiple fake leak artists have stated it would be hard to shop and move the characters around on the background

<Marketing firm the leaker used to work for has been associated with Namco Bandai, but they released a statement saying they aren't currently working with them

>Leaker supposedly still works for marketing firms, possibly one more involved with gaming

>Surrounding media is abnormally silent unlike the Rayman leak were Ubisoft flat-out stated Rayman wasn't in the game, but they did share materials for Rayman to be included as a trophy

We'll truly know in about a week or so, either due to new Nintendo direct or a leaker coming forward like Omni did.


b5f89f  No.15649911

>>15649828

I really don't want to keep my hopes but, but there's some faith in the credibility of the leak going around. The first rule of any leak should be to never believe them, but for once, one has some steam behind it. Maybe this year, Nintendo-Bamco decided to outsource? It's a possibility, but perhaps there's nothing there to hold it up.

What's more, people even here believe that nobody would go this far for a fake leak. Something about moving the individual characters around in Photoshop to ascertain if their proportions or shadows are fake. People kept assuming that the Mii Fighters got removed from the mural, only to stand corrected. Everything is there as it should be.

All I wanna know is, where is this Snapchat video people seem to have gotten it from? I guess we're far into the investigation enough that it really has been taken down everywhere, or some people are smug enough to keep it to themselves and never let anyone see it until the game comes out.

There's also the clues about Isaac that could just be red herrings. The way Sakurai worded his statement seems to imply a reveal relating to earthquakes had to be replaced by Isabelle. What things that have anything to do with Nintendo relate to earthquakes, beyond Isaac's ability to control earth? Then there's the sapling item, but people bring up a good point that Isaac doesn't need to be in the game for any Golden Sun representation to show up. Heck, they even had a Golden Sun song in Brawl at one point. Also, maybe they just happened to forget to include him as an Assist Trophy this time around. Especially with a huge roster such as this, some corners would be cut.


326868  No.15649912

>>15649808

It all hinges on this >>15640925 banner, and how stupidly difficult it would be to (convincingly) fake it:

>Re-create the background layer

>Re-create the art of every character, on individual layers

>'Fill in' the missing details on characters who were previously obscured by other characters

>Match the layout of the official banner, then arbitrarily re-arrange it to create some 'gaps'

>Implement art of the 'fake' characters


b5f89f  No.15649916

>>15649909

They said Nov. 10th right? For the next direct.


780767  No.15649921

>>15649916

I heard 8th, have no idea where this came from though, I don't think they released a statement on their next direct.


dc2699  No.15649937

File: 729e319c0ea43be⋯.png (155.58 KB, 215x462, 215:462, DDIsaac.png)

Anybody hoping for DD Isaac as an Alt?

>>15649579

Yeah thats the one.


3bb14b  No.15649939

>>15649909

The trademark renewal means nothing, it's standard procedure to renew it every 10 years and it was done back in September.


780767  No.15649952

Keep in mind when the Rayman leak was a thing, other artists noticed small tidbits indicating it was fake such as the text being slightly different, character art of Mewtwo and Rayman didn't match, flames in character boxes were slightly off, as well as sketchy information that made it seem like a pro-editor had done it. None of this shit seemed to come up in the ERSB leak and if it was, it was nitpicks who noticed too similar of details between Shulk and Little Mac.


780767  No.15649959

>>15649939

There's rumors that during or after E3 is when Nintendo and Microsoft spoke about having Banjo included and Smash and that Incineroar was moved to DLC so Banjo could be included in the base roster.


866fe1  No.15649962

>>15649959

That makes no sense. It costs them much more to include Banjo than a Pokemon that most people only accept as likely rather than actively want. If anything, Banjo would be DLC to recoup the costs of licensing him.


326868  No.15649963

>>15649939

If trademark renewals meant anything, then Eternal Darkness (which gets renewed every few years) would've had a cameo, port or even a sequel by now.


e3f88c  No.15649989

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>negroes are "popping off" over whom might be the grandest of composers but they are not posting banjo kazooie songs.

is that not what this is all about anyways?


780767  No.15649990

>>15649962

And some speculate Incineroar was moved to DLC because no new Pokemon game was coming out and they didn't need to drum up hype like they did with Greninja.

Also not everyone who buys the game is going to buy DLC. Microsoft probably struck a deal that said they get X% of the game's profits, which would probably be more than X% of character DLC that would 1, cost less than $7 and again not everyone would buy. And even with DLC, I doubt Microsoft would be able to ask for half of the profits of said DLC character.


b5f89f  No.15650030

>>15649939

Uhuh? And so exactly when was the last trademark renewal documented? 'Cuz all I see is news for Pokémon ones back in 2009.


3bb14b  No.15650049


b5f89f  No.15650069

>>15650030

>>15649939

Nevermind, here it is. Welp, that's one clue that got sunk.

https://www.trademarkia.com/golden-sun-77749719.html


780767  No.15650083

>>15649962

Also that's not how licensing works. No one asks for a flat rate that simply gets bought. If they do, they've been cheated or they're the idiot. Companies often negotiate a margin of the profits, assets, or sharing between assets or other chips that can be bargained with. The idea is to create mutually beneficial situation. For example, Nintendo might've been cut down on Microsoft's rate of profits from Minecraft being released on the Switch by licensing Nintendo properties for Microsoft to use in other parts of Mincraft that aren't exclusive to the Switch. DLC is only beneficial if you're late to the party or if you have the majority of control. Yes, they're using the character, but Nintendo can argue they're distributing the character, implementing the character, but you don't do all the work simply for owning the character.


780767  No.15650090

>>15650069

If trademark was clue for which characters would be included in Smash, every roster would've been known before it came out.


8dbd3c  No.15650152

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>>15649989

>People don't want their ears violated by Kirkhope's abominable lack of talent

Here's some ear bleach.


db0d8a  No.15650221

>>15650152

If we still don't end up having any Diddy Kong Racing music arranged I'll be mildly upset. They'll almost certainly choose Jungle Falls for it if anything, though.


80e6d7  No.15650319

>>15649937

>grown up

Did Isaac fuck anyone?


db0d8a  No.15650360

>>15650319

Didn't he fuck Jenna?


80e6d7  No.15650546

>>15650360

Since when the fuck was that a thing?


6687cc  No.15650591

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>>15649911 (checked)

>The way Sakurai worded his statement seems to imply a reveal relating to earthquakes had to be replaced by Isabelle.

I still stand with my theory >>15644711 that the original Direct would have had two Smash newcomer trailers Isaac at the start (akin to how Little Mac was announced in that past Direct) and then ending with the dual Isabelle trailer and Animal Crossing Switch teaser.

>What things that have anything to do with Nintendo relate to earthquakes, beyond Isaac's ability to control earth?

Only other Nintendo series involving earthquakes is Disaster: Day of Crisis and that's a single game that's basically forgotten about and wasn't even released in NA.

Nor do I see anyone requesting it's main character Raymond Bryce to be playable or even an assist trophy. Would be nice to have some music from it though.


498ace  No.15650620

>>15650546

Since marrying her and having children with her, or something.


dc2699  No.15650621

>>15650319

I think his kid is the main character of the third one. I never played it though.


80e6d7  No.15650676

>>15650591

With everything lately, I'm changing Isaac back to 100% chance. The battle screen reference tweet and unexpected copyright renewal seemed to subtly get him locked down, but now with the Grinch leak and everything surrounding it on top of straight up fucking confirming Sakurai word for word changed the original script of that shit Direct entirely because of the earthquake ON TOP OF Isaac still not returning since Brawl when characters like Knuckles, Zero and even fucking Bomberman got deconfirmed while he just uses that Psyenergy hand we all know and love to simply push opponents away.


b5f89f  No.15650687

File: c1e6ce790310c9d⋯.png (366.2 KB, 914x1583, 914:1583, gsdd-karis.png)

File: 474fda9c6154675⋯.png (4.71 MB, 1642x3500, 821:1750, gsdd-matthew.png)

File: 6150cd3b3e89b7c⋯.png (84.13 KB, 564x1041, 188:347, gsdd-rief.png)

File: 655e0d76c1185e8⋯.png (443.59 KB, 875x1595, 175:319, gsdd-tyrell.png)

>>15650319

>>15650360

Yeah it was Jenna. They had a kid named Matthew, who is essentially like father, like son. Tyrell is Garet's son, who's basically the same too.

Mia apparently had two kids, with her son Rief becoming part of the main cast. Ivan had a daughter named Karis, who is also part of the party, but resembles Jenna a lot. I can remember Ivan inventing this glider thing that uses Wind Psynergy in DD.

Oddly enough, the TLA party doesn't get mentioned much. You would think Sheba got together with someone, but nothing was said.


b5f89f  No.15650710

File: c8d2a0d961be539⋯.png (101.05 KB, 650x1100, 13:22, gsdd-amiti.png)

>>15650687

Oh, and somehow Alex banged royalty, creating Amiti. I forget, but I'm guessing Amiti is part of his new plan.


b5f89f  No.15650744

>>15650676

>unexpected copyright renewal

It wasn't unexpected. See here; >>15649939 >>15650069


b5f89f  No.15650789

File: 838609ed3e886a6⋯.jpg (596.89 KB, 1204x1074, 602:537, smash most wanted list.jpg)


80e6d7  No.15650850

>>15650687

Suddenly, I'm really glad Isaac ended up with Jenna and I don't even know why since I didn't even play The Lost Age where a shit ton is apparently added to both of their characters.

Isaac was the first mute MC I ever enjoyed with plenty of background and shit he had to go through to justify not being one for words and silently, stoically trudging along to find Djinn for more power the heroes needed, save his and Garet's childhood friend and get back those Elemental Stars before the world gets wrecked. Jenna was just that cute likable girl who was their friend capable of holding her own in a fight alongside them and ended up getting kidnapped only to help save the world with her own power she obtained. Suddenly, she seems like a sexy waifu tier girl I never even noticed the appeal of all this time until now.


b5f89f  No.15650925

File: aae29c16ed4a994⋯.jpg (176.05 KB, 612x868, 153:217, r4w6.jpg)

>>15650850

Then I guess you'll like this.


5edb15  No.15650953

>>15650687

>who is essentially like father, like son

With the benefit of inheriting a little Fire aptitude from his mom, resulting in knowing Grow without having to switch out djinn.

>Tyrell is Garet's son, who's basically the same too.

Except Garet wasn't a fuck up, while Tyrone steals and breaks something at the start and sets off the entire fucking fetch quest that plods along for most of the game.

>Oddly enough, the TLA party doesn't get mentioned much. You would think Sheba got together with someone, but nothing was said.

Fans tend to pair her with Felix on account of his leaping off a lighthouse to save her in GS1, but yes, the game keeps her and him out of the picture compared to the rest. Though in Felix's defense, I seem to recall something in Dark Dawn about how a fair amount of NPCs that didn't like the issues the Golden Sun event caused blamed him, considering lighting the lighthouses was the task he'd taken upon himself. Seen theory he went into exile, not really having a place in the new world. And then there's Piers traveling the world in his boat who isn't really seen or heard from much either, though if memory serves, it sounded like Mia's daughter (and Rief's sister) had an interest in him or something.

What seemed egregious was that the player never sees or hears much about Jenna in Dark Dawn, or who exactly Ivan and Garet's wives were. Granted, the scale of the game is unfortunately different, going from being able to explore a whole world map between both GBA games while Dark Dawn has limited scope and frequent points of no return, so you never visit Tolbi or wherever it was the gang had settled down in anyhow, but still.


2980ca  No.15650960

ACP, the company implicated in the leak, deleted the video that showed off their workplace (which was used to showcase the similarities between the leak and their office)

It's real.


80e6d7  No.15651162

>>15650789

>even listing non vidya shit

I forgot about Dark Matter "Swordsman" entirely. I was literally just thinking along the lines of "I'm the real signature fucking Dark Matter itself and I'm here to finally get payback against that damn Kirby along with Bowser, Ganon, Ridley, K. Rool just to show who's boss".

With Dark Samus, we can literally have characters just float around now. Gooey can play more "fun" like he does in Star Allies with both his tongue or whatever other shit on the ground as a ball and latent powers while the original Dark Matter could alternatively just be a "serious" full-time version that relentlessly attacks using everything in his games is basically an anti-Kirby for extra fun that also has some weaknesses against him at the same time (because they're sworn enemies and Void Termina added a whole new lore layer)

>>15650925

I like that smug bitch "Aqua".


7b6745  No.15651194

>>15650960

I appreciate your optimism, but they could easily have removed it for PR reasons. Being accused of leaking sensitive information by an international mob has gotta be terrible for business when your profit margin depends on client trust.


6e4644  No.15651244

>>15650687

Eoleo, the pirate baby Mars adept from TLA Briggs's son is a party member as are Sveta, a Jupiter aligned lycanthrope from Belinsk, and Himi, a Venus adept from Izumo with absolutely no development aside from being the kid of the two main NPCs from the Gaia Rock section of TLA.

I'm willing to overlook the travesty that was Dark Dawn if GS4 is any good. The one thing from DD I absolutely hate was the cliche'd addition of light and dark adepts. The main bads spreading psynergy vortexes around are dark adepts and one could assume that Matthew and Sveta are light adepts after being exposed to the light of Apollo Sanctum

I would've really preferred to have the alluded to light/dark paradigm be hidden behind a kind of Alchemy alignment that goes beyond merely being an adept. Creative/pure alchemy for light and destructive/anti alchemy for dark. It could add another layer to combat and puzzles without bloating party sizes.


7b6745  No.15651378

File: 61f635a46205a3c⋯.jpg (163.08 KB, 979x1024, 979:1024, Picks.jpg)

>>15641052

It's been a while since I've done one of these, so I decided to do one from scratch.


8dbd3c  No.15651391

>>15651378

What do you got against Crash and Spyro, fool? They're way better than that piece of shit thot Shittae.


7b6745  No.15651416

>>15651391

Never been a fan of early Western 3D mascot games. The cartoony style and music just turn me off completely.

As for Shantae, I'm a platformerfag so I played through the games – I admit I'm biased, but I think she'd be fun. With that said I'd much rather have Marx, Ammy, or pretty much any other character I listed over her. She's more of an afterthought that could easily be an assist trophy.


8dbd3c  No.15651433

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>>15651416

Spyro is fucking fantastic though and Shantae's platformers range from being mediocre to horse shit.


7b6745  No.15651474

>>15651433

I don't know how you can make it past the visual design, anon. The pixar face alone drives me insane.


d641fc  No.15651477

>>15649515

No, Gooey is too different from Kirby even while copying some moves, Gooey would be it's own character


8dbd3c  No.15651506

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>>15651474

It's called the Dreamworks face and his game came out long before that became a propagated meme. With Shantae I don't know how you make it past the obvious hentaibait design.

Spyro is a good boy and deserves to make it in Smash eventually.


80e6d7  No.15651827

>>15651506

>shit thot

>hentaibait

I seriously can't even believe what a fucking retarded faggot this autist actually is, holy shit.


e3f88c  No.15651833

>>15651506

>the Dreamworks face

why? pixar is more accurate


8dbd3c  No.15651922

File: f2c004c6164d92b⋯.png (116.04 KB, 899x654, 899:654, trash.png)

>>15651827

The shoe fits so wear it nigger.


26695e  No.15651974

File: e4a9d69dc0f0c7c⋯.png (104.86 KB, 960x87, 320:29, ClipboardImage.png)

>>15651433

>Spyro is fucking fantastic

Spyro WAS fantastic, then the trilogy ended and the only thing that came out of his series was shovelware worse than any Shantae game. With the remake 4/20 games featuring him are good. One fifth. Out of fucking twenty.

I also fail to see why Nintendo would want the two unofficial mascots of the early playstation era in their game.


8dbd3c  No.15652124

File: 33f8d54a458273d⋯.png (187.92 KB, 500x353, 500:353, ClipboardImage.png)

>>15651974

Yeah but at least Spyro had four good games out of twenty instead of zero out of five in in Shantae's case.

But even with that, there's plenty of reasons to add Spyro now. Firstly, his original trilogy of good games is being remade, hopefully to serve as a reboot in which case Spyro has a future of good games. Secondly, you list being a PlayStation mascot as a reason against their inclusion, but if anything this is MORE of a reason why they should be included. Adding Crash and Spyro would really be a bold move that would really sell Smash as being a unification of all the great aspects of gaming regardless of platform. On top of that, Cloud and Snake were also "unofficial" mascots of the PlayStation yet they got in with full fanservice of their PS-exclusive depictions, so again, this really falls flat as an argument.

And thirdly, it's an excuse to have Stewart Copeland adding his original Spyro score to Smash, potentially remixed in a cool way.

Lastly, Spyro is a good boy. He deserves a spot for being such a good draggo.


2980ca  No.15652140

>>15651194

Then why haven't they released a statement? If this was fake ACP would lose literally nothing saying "This is fake we didn't leak anything and are not working with Nintendo at this time." The lack of statement plus the deleted video is a smoking gun of admission.


725ce0  No.15652317

File: 01a91289570007e⋯.webm (Spoiler Image, 8.11 MB, 960x540, 16:9, zjbdaj.webm)

lol


7edf0b  No.15652453

>>15651162

>non vidya shit

Minority weebs have been asking for Gonku and his Shonen shit friends since Brawl apparently. At first it was a joke, but with the inclusion of Cloud, the flames of retardation have been stoked.

One can argue they have their video game adaptations, but the bottom line is that they're anime characters. Their debut wasn't in video games. Thus the reason why I don't want fucking 'Luffy' in Smash.


d9b430  No.15652484

>>15652317

This is shit.

Also I still dont understand this stupid assvaccum meme. Its probably for the best.


7edf0b  No.15652500

File: 9b2598024730954⋯.jpg (43.49 KB, 607x491, 607:491, DqrJChbWsAA1nWx.jpg)


cf64a7  No.15652508

>>15652484

You know what? Fuck you, faggot. I spend a solid 10 hours making sure the animation looks passable just for some litle spic to come into my thread and tell me its not up to /v/ standards. Sure I admit the assvaccum meme isn't very funny, but you still have to give me some credit for the effort and thought I put into this. And where's your oc huh? Nowhere, because all you do all day is shitpost on /v/ and mock other people's creations. That's all /v/ is, really. Mocking other people's work because the people here aren't capable of making their own content. I don't even know why I grace you pieces of shit with my hard work. You can all put a toothpick under your big toe nail and kick a wall for all I care. I'm gonna make my own alternate /v/.


7edf0b  No.15652514

File: 0c3844085d187b2⋯.png (269.12 KB, 500x472, 125:118, b87.png)

>>15652508

>10 hours

not our fault you waste our time.


80ce31  No.15652721

>>15652508

Is this a pasta edit?


a52d56  No.15652749

>>15652508

I enjoyed it


cf64a7  No.15652807

File: 75e2417d97351a3⋯.mp4 (2.95 MB, 400x300, 4:3, alternate v.mp4)


12ffc5  No.15653029

>>15652484

It's a cuckchan thing, apparently. I know this because I lurk there during these times for their more active Smash threads.


295497  No.15653532

I realized something. If Isaac had been revealed at the original intended date, wouldn't that have lead to Isabelle having been confirmed as the 69th fighter after all? I think Isaac might have saved us from rather intense furfaggotry.


7edf0b  No.15653580

>>15653532

He'll be 69ing Jenna everywhere.


3bb14b  No.15653581

File: d1c3bf319d441b3⋯.png (79.62 KB, 284x251, 284:251, 1450637315444.png)

Can you lads imagine how much salt and tears there will be when the leak turns out to be bullshit? Everyone's talking like it's a sure thing because it has some of the most popular characters but it's just way too good to be true.


7edf0b  No.15653598

>>15653581

Fake or not, everyone wins I guess.


7b6745  No.15653617

>>15653581

The salt is going to be delicious.


7b6745  No.15653621

>>15652508

I hope to God this is pasta


7edf0b  No.15653627

>>15653621

It can be, you have the power.


cf64a7  No.15653630

https://instaud.io/2Rhk

NateDrake from NeoGaf demands you guys prove that the leak is real and apologize when it turns out to be fake.


7edf0b  No.15653636

>>15653630

Here's a question; why would anyone care about a leak if it didn't have some fucking ground to it? Leaks have all been ignored until now.


2ebcb9  No.15653642

File: b9811099e4b0b5e⋯.jpg (102.93 KB, 480x640, 3:4, メアリィ 19405399_p0_master120….jpg)

>>15653580

>He'll be 69ing Jenna everywhere.

should have gone with Mia instead, tbh


2ebcb9  No.15653646

>>15653581

>Can you lads imagine how much salt and tears there will be when the leak turns out to be bullshit?

i don't really care about these kinds of leaks, some mite b cool, some are not. i can just wait for official revelations.


7edf0b  No.15653649

>>15653642

Both bitches, then.


a28e4c  No.15653674

>>15653642

>choosing a washed up priestess over the caring hothead

Shit taste, anon. Karst was better and deserved a happy ending with Felix.


7edf0b  No.15653688

>>15653674

Where's the supporting evidence?


80e6d7  No.15653708

>>15653674

Fuck it, that's right.


80e6d7  No.15653758

>>15653674

>>15653708

In the past I would have chosen sweet, polite Mia without any thought, but now that I'm older, fiery, outgoing, strong inside but nursing losing her family long haired tomboy Jenna is just superior in every fucking conceivable way. She probably got drunk with Isaac before going for a romp in the sack for years.


465d19  No.15653942

>>15652317

How The Grinch Got Ass Cancer.


80651e  No.15654408

>>15653581

Can you imagine all the salt theres going to be when these leaks turn out to be real?

Wait I dont have to imagine it, because its already happening

https://youtu.be/hr03yOoFPww


db0d8a  No.15654989

File: e3a93f5c51fa3bf⋯.png (141.27 KB, 369x302, 369:302, strange elf with strange s….PNG)

>>15654408

>Composer: Vergeben


1fcad4  No.15655057

File: 94ff22866ae3dfe⋯.png (24.71 KB, 737x300, 737:300, Incineroar is In.png)

http://archive.is/9k769

Reminder, this guy said that Maxi was going to be a fag in SCVI.

I'm unsure what I think of the Grinch/Banner leak, but a part of me hopes it's real if only for Vergeben to be BTFO. On the other hand, I think if Vergeben is real then the Banner Leak is likely not real. I don't think the two leaks are compatible.

On the other hand, >>15653581 this too. The salt would be glorious had it turned out to be fake. Youtube comments about Smash are filled with fuckers spamming it everywhere, they couldn't handle the Banner leak being fake. While I would hate it giving more life to Vergeben the fallout would be worth it.

>>15652484

>>15653029

I think it started with the Sonybro meme where they tried to push cancerous console warring faggotry. But it all stopped when Sony themselves was confirmed for peak Soy with The Last of Us 2 reveal at e3.


db0d8a  No.15655063

>>15655057

Throughout this whole thing I never once believed that Incineroar would be in. Hopefully in the next smash poll, enough people vote in Hex Maniac so that we can play as ghost pokemon.


8dbd3c  No.15655294

I believe the Grinch leaker more than Fageben.

Fageben's been wrong before, yet he got one prediction right out of twenty he's made and everyone keeps licking his nipples like he's the new messiah. Also, Verge is the one saying Steve will be in the game, which makes me dismiss everything he says outright, because Steve is such an enormously unworthy and terrible character to add to the game, going against Sakurai's principle of adding "just anybody" to the game.


5516cf  No.15655497

>>15655294

Steve isn't really even the face of the game anyway since it's played first person for the most part and everyone mods him out when they learn how.


725ce0  No.15655575

File: 85028fd48571124⋯.gif (1.07 MB, 999x833, 999:833, HABBENING.gif)

>>15652500

um..

also edit


7edf0b  No.15656870

DIRECT ON THURSDAY 10 AM EAST

40 MINS LONG


326868  No.15656938

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>15656870

48 HOURS REMAIN




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