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3be089  No.15639948

Often you see journos describe a game as being 'about the feels' but like the npc meme come to life they only seem to mean "this subject matter was woke enough that i must attest that it promoted independent thought to remain in my local hivemind cluster". But all games should make you think, thats part of the exercise of the thing really.

But actually instilling emotional response? the reveal thing rather than what those robotic sociopaths think emotions are? Those are rare.

For me some examples would be:

>You start The Legend of Zelda the Wind Waker to see its the land from Ocarina of time you played through as a kid, but you weren't there and the world flooded and the dregs dont even remember what they lost. Because you failed them.

>Journey has you walking towards a mountain, as it goes on this is a trip to the afterlife from your grave. The game has some exciting highs and euphoric moments of great imagery and scale. But it really hits you as you creep up the mountain, freezing to death -its not revealed outright you are a ghost yet- and the camera pulls in, your character and screen ice over and it gets harder and harder to trudge and you are going 'come on, one more step, come on' and your character keels over and all seems lost before the rush of flying above the clouds like superman to dance through the wind to heaven as the orchestra goes to 120% ultimate climax mode

>Nier Automata has you go through 5 endings talking about the nature of life only for the finale about the true question, what makes it worth living at all. you fight the ending credits in a bullet hell schmup that is intentionally impossible. When it seems lost other players saves show up to fight and protect each other for the true ending and you can delete your save to send it to save others because the life/save is only worth something when its helping others or dying alone as memory on a finished game

>MGS3 ends with your mentor/lover lying below you in a field of flowers, your character aims a gun at her and is ordered to shoot. You can let the shot linger for hours and its up to the player to realise you have to press the r1 button, shooting her is your action to take and you cannot disobey.

>lost Odyssey stars an immortal looking for his daughter, midway through the game he finds her on her deathbed and he breaks down and weeps like no voice actor i have ever heard weep in a game performance and as the object of his search dies she tells him he isnt alone as the two bratty kids who joined the party much earlier are his grandchildren and as she dies the three of them all break down together.

They tend to only show up once or twice a console generation for me but not a one of them is some form of political soap boxing by writers with absolutely no place telling others how to think about politics or morality. They are personal gut punches that work because you care.

What games ever illicit an emotion beyond excitement or rage from your cold dead heart?

56c6d2  No.15639972

>>15639948

KotOR II


4e8b4a  No.15639976

File: e8fe1fac4684641⋯.png (199.76 KB, 760x1074, 380:537, limbo.png)


92d054  No.15639997

File: a03237bbb1551f4⋯.jpg (171.6 KB, 800x1110, 80:111, 266585-bioshock-infinite-p….jpg)


c0a783  No.15640001

>>15639997

/thread :^)


211f87  No.15640018

Deus Ex when you talk to Lucious DeBeers. His backstory combined with the music and lightning was really powerful and it genuinely made me feel.


546c55  No.15640118

Bait aside, try the Yomawari series. They're about little girls learning about the grim facets of life along with supernatural horrors.


3be089  No.15640131

>>15640118

I have, the second ones opening was a bit more shocking than the first because its a slower burn.


7c1fd5  No.15640138

LISA series

Yes, the creator turned full SJW, but wasn't like that originally.


546c55  No.15640165

>>15640131

How did you like the endings?


7735c3  No.15640168

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This weebshit JRPG trilogy really hit me hard at points. I truly felt for some of the charcters since surprise, all these tragic backstories and world shattering events start cutting deep when you spend a game building everything up, and estelle's arc and entire character is just zoggin' beautiful.

Then you have shit like star door 25 which REALLY hits hard.

At first I was really confused as to why FC was pretty unremarkable but sitting through that slog of a game it really made SC stand out all that more.

Even if the gameplay could be leagues better.


3be089  No.15640192

>>15640165

Validated my Vita purchase i can tell you that much.


414d82  No.15640204

>>15639948

Jesus christ, spoiler warning my god.


3be089  No.15640214

>>15640204

Scott Shelby is the Origami killer, call the cops nobody is here to help you.


e35db3  No.15640224

>>15640204

Darth Vader is Luke Skywalkers dad.


7735c3  No.15640232

>>15640214

That's ridiculous, that's like saying Manny Pardo is the Miami Mutilator.


e35db3  No.15640234

>>15640204

Dr. Polito is actually Shodan.

The Mom from Clock tower is the bad guy.

Snape dies.

Dumbledore dies.

Spiderman dies in Infinity War.

Luke gets cucked while cucking Kylo Ren in Star Wars The Last Jews.


e35db3  No.15640236

>>15640232

Or that Bane is actually some.irrelevant meme while Talia Al Ghul was the real Mosquito Man all along.


a1c954  No.15640243

File: a7fe98dbe772138⋯.jpg (588.29 KB, 1280x1790, 128:179, metro-redux-jaquette-537e1….jpg)


80dbb1  No.15640447

>>15639997

wait a minute, that card…


80dbb1  No.15640471

>>15640236

or that the patriots are retconned to be ex-fox personnel


507a98  No.15640561

File: c7f1fe587bc072c⋯.png (93.46 KB, 655x375, 131:75, ClipboardImage.png)

Nothing you do matters, just act like a good goy I mean pawn and kill your target.


9d785f  No.15640575

>>15639972

this really is the best answer


e00fbc  No.15640694

File: a050208ca160587⋯.png (4.5 KB, 510x590, 51:59, Richter4.png)

File: 21b9a000d76be11⋯.jpg (15.03 KB, 320x240, 4:3, 21b.jpg)

>play hotline miami

>loving the game

>get back to the apartment

>girlfriend is dead, some guy in a rat mask killed her and shoots me

>take out the entire police station to get to him

>guy is telling me we aren't different and I have the option to kill him

>damn right I'm killing this fucker

>play the sequel years later

>loving it so far

>start playing as the guy I killed years ago

>wait, so I didn't kill him?

>every scene I see him he's dealing with his sickly mother who is mostly unable to care for herself and no father in sight

>has no friends

>has no future

>I killed him because he was an annoying asshole trying to justify himself to people who would rather he was never born

it's almost an exact copy of my life


e18c6b  No.15640856

File: 7dc5eca8cdfcb92⋯.png (16.6 KB, 892x517, 892:517, npc meme.PNG)

>>15640845


83b244  No.15640857

File: 0287402053a2f71⋯.jpg (36.49 KB, 800x400, 2:1, 2-lettersfromseafront12.jpg)


1050d5  No.15640867

>>15640856

>expected whining about npc being unoriginal

You're proving him right, in a way.


3be089  No.15640881

>>15640857

I see you are also a moonman of culture.


c700a5  No.15640892

>>15640857

I don't need these feels


519429  No.15640905

Honestly i cannot recall any game that upon reflection still emerges as "hitting_me_in_the_feels.exe"

I remember trying to milk something like that out of FF8 when i was young. But upon reflection, nothing in that game hit me in the way that an average "great movie" can do.

It's emotional Sakuga (the goods) and typically games have a hard time making people care because its so obvious its a game.

(This relates to that other thread where the guy said he worked for brainwashing orgs and movies were the most effective because we can lose ourselves)

Games need you to actually care about the consequences for them to hit the feels. But when you can stand around for hours while world ending shit is "paused" it breaks the immersion.

It sounds counter productive but i think games could gain if they would focus less on sandbox elements that expose the limitations and focus more on "on rails" elements. It has to be a balance and it has to be presented in a way where i wouldn't even think to try and test the limitations of the engine.

Darksouls had a good idea with the souls recovery system which made dying somewhat "scary"

MgS told you it would erase your memory card.

Can you think of other examples where games made the stakes actually worthy?


3be089  No.15640944

>>15640892

>In Automata Emil finds a Lunar Rose and know it means something important, but its been so long he cannot remember

>But you can.


f8bc19  No.15640947

>>15640905

I generally disagree. I find it easier to totally immerse myself in a game than a movie, and rarely watch any kind of TV as a result. Remember you can just as easily "pause" a movie, I generally just have less connection to the characters.


3be089  No.15640951

>>15640905

The only time FF8 got me was when the credits rolled. It was my first rpg i put over 100 hours into and watching that home movie i felt a bit of ennui that i would never know what happened to these characters i had played as/with for months. Where would their lives go? and the fake i would never know/see it kind of depressed me a little as a teen.


83b244  No.15640988

>>15640881

I still don't know whether or not the right decision was to lie to her. It fucks me up man. I know true and good aren't synonymous but what are you supposed to want out of it? It scares me that it's known but not understood. I'm too stupid to comprehend. Times like those are when I genuinely wish my father or grandfather were around to ask.


f8bc19  No.15641015

>>15640988

I don't know the game or the context, but I do know that the truth always finds a way. You can lie to "protect" someone for now, but whenever they do eventually find out it only makes things worse.


83b244  No.15641178

>>15641015

Typically you would follow what is true for that specific reason. When you encounter a situation that's purely a matter of personal morality, like the dilemma presented in Nier, that's where the confusion sets in.


4b1ce4  No.15641184

>>15639948

Has anyone ever made a webm/ MP4 of this song superimposed over the picture of wojak sitting at a piano and Pepe playing the trumpet? It would be perfect but I suck at making OC.


d9f093  No.15641290

File: bb406d5c8919641⋯.jpg (97.19 KB, 1000x1000, 1:1, shalom-gnome-SGGNOME-3995.jpg)

All of the games that I've played.




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