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Pokemon is more often consistent game wise to the mechanics and lore while Digimon does whatever it wants with each iteration. So that probably turns people off.

>>15619649

>pokemon vs digimon

Is this 2001?

>>15619649

Charizard is pretty cute.

>>15619649

That's because Digimon's focus is singleplayer and Pokemon's focus is multiplayer. More people buy multiplayer games because friends convince friends to buy the game so that they can play together.

The games might be the same genre but have different markets.

digimon would've done alot better if season 4 was good

>>15619649

I honestly can't think of a more overrated and vapid monster hunter/trading series than Pokemon. I challenge anyone to name one.

>>15619707

Yugioh.

>>15619707

Magic the gathering

>>15619707

Real life

>>15619707

monster hunter world

i'd rather deal with pokeautists than interact with any degenerate who flails around MH:W like the holy grail.

>>15619661

This. Pokemon is the model of how you keep your brand consistent. Fans of the anime, fans of the vidya, fans of the card game, hell, even fans of the fucking mobile game can all talk to each other about their favorite monsters and what they do and all make sense of what the others are saying. That makes for a gigantic cohesive audience.

>>15619711

Yugioh is pretty lame.

>>15619714

I know theres hearthstone but i cant count Magic as vidya.

>>15619718

Not versed on MH so I don't know. But the point being is Pokemon is quite bottom of the barrel.

>>15619739

>i cant count Magic as vidya.

fair enough.

>>15619730

It's obviously meant to be a joke because that other guy called pokemon a "monster hunter" despite being completely different genres.

>>15619769

>>15619770

What are you, a furry?

>>15619777

No, I'm a zoophile. It's worse.

>>15619777

Whatever I am, at least I only have one waifu.

>>15619661

You mean stagnant mechanics. They change very little and add a gimick that adds very little every other iteration.

Having only one good game for decades. An anime that was all "muh power of friendship" when the pokemon anime at least tried to have strategies once in a while. 4kids not even trying with the dub. Incredible, incredible design stagnation. Generally not trying to do anything that pokemon didn't in the west - I've never seen a single digivice anywhere growing up, and I experienced beyblades.

>>15619762

>>15619777 (wasted)

>anon expresses his interest in dinosaur ass

<post monstergirls

>anon obviously isn't interested in it because he just expressed his interest in dinosaur ass

<"WOW ARE YOU A FURRY?"

>>15619762

ROLLING

I've seen more bashing against digimon from pokefags tbh.

>>15619649

>one partner one soul

you can't cach'em all in Digimon, that's why Pokemon kiscks it's ass

>>15619819

Pokefags forget Digimon even exists.

>>15619834

Pokefags are the protestants of any game using monsters.

Monster Rancher, Digimon and Jade Cocoon were far superior to the same boring recycled garbage.

>>15619844

Thing is, of those four series, only one of them really survived. I'm still mad it wasn't Jade Cocoon. That series was the shit and I'd fuck Arpatron hard.

>>15619769

>Ignoring the town bike of the digimon world just to shit on monster girls

Not only a furry, but a retard at that.

>>15619847

And instead of Stalker surviving we got Fallout 4, success doesn't mean quality.

>>15619796

You're not contradicting him. It's both stagnant and consistent.

>>15619913

stalker did survive, it was just sirgay taking the money and running because fats supported a slav.

>>15619946

I assume it's name is some form of shout or yell- probably was later re-purposed into Exploud.

The only thing I could maybe give digimon is there are more that I'd like to hug.

>>15619971

>kuroodod

You first

>>15619800

Bitch you wish furries didn't outdate you by like 15 years.

>>15619762

>scyllamon?

MUH

>>15619913

Also this. I don't like the implication that success=quality because that implies a game like Undertale or FNAF is better than a great majority of games.

>>15620261

this

>>15619649

One word: marketing. Digimon is superior in practically every aspect, but Pokemon has a massive brand that literally everyone knows. Even your mom and granny probably know what a Pokemon is, and Nintendo ensures the brand stays alive. Digimon, on the other hand, is relatively unknown comared to it, and while there are new products coming out, it's got nowhere near the marketing or financial backing of Pokemon.

Truly, Digimon is for true patricians, while pokemon is for the unwashed masses.

>>15620261

This. Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 3 Professional is the objectively best game of the genre. The pure freedom the game gives through fusions makes the roster of potential teams nearly limitless.

After all this time I know next to nothing about this franchise except that the kids in school would say Digimon cards were more powerful than Pokemon cards because they had more points.

>>15619978

Honestly it just looks like an early version of Nidoking.

>>15620382

You say that, but the actual design of Nidoking is right there, same as his index number. In fact, almost every index number is listed in that picture.

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_index_number_(Generation_I)

Amusingly, Rhydon was No. 0 in that image while the kaijew was No. 1, but by index Rhydon is 01 and the mystery Pokemon got shoahed.

>>15620166

Undertale is pretty good though even with the arbitrary categorization of "better than other games"

>>15620420

So is Big Rigs, what's your point?

>>15620424

Look you can be mad about a game because it's popular, that doesn't mean you have to be such a Fulgurating Faggot about it.

>>15619669

They only have 2 or 3 designs like that. They have marketed them like crazy tho so know Pikachu is like Mickey Mouse

>>15620474

I should mention that my post is only referring to the anime particularly the English Dub. The card game itself is still fun but the game has its issues with broken cards and.balancing.

>>15620535

It's interesting how the dub can have a really high impact. In Latam regions, Digimon dubs were made by Intertrack and were fucking godly. They weren't re-dubs of already dubbed shows like 4Kids Pokémon or Yu-Gi-Oh, instead they were made from the original source material, so there was no censorship and no bullshit song changes.

The openings and endings were dubbed, but they are just as popular as Wada's originals - and Latam fans didn't miss out on these because the insert song versions were left in Japanese.

You can find shit tons of covers, fan versions and remixes of Butterfly, Target, Biggest Dreamer, among others. Pokémon… not so much. The 'I wanna be the very best' opening's latam dub is good but it's nowhere near the Digimon dub openings. In festivals, it's also very common to see Intertrack-era dub opening/ending singers as guests.

Those were the times… Watching Intertrack dubbed shows after coming back from school. So damn good. They also worked on Sakura Card Captors, Saint Seiya, fuckin' Dragon Ball, Sailor Moon… Pretty much every big anime of the time was dubbed by them.

Game wise, I did play some Pokémon games in the Gameboy days, but I couldn't care less about the newer ones. It's just the same shit over and over.

Digimon at least tries to cover more grounds, from basic RPGs like World 2/3 to more modern ones like Cybersleuth and then the classic 'Tamagotchi' ones like World, Re:Digitize and Next Order. Out of these, the Tamagotchi games are definitely my faves, but Cybersleuth was pretty good, too.

>>15619810

>All this furry asspain

>All the upset furries in this thread

>>15620632

>this asspain

>>15619669

>>15620487

who else /always fucking hated everything about pikachu/

I can't be the only one

>>15620658

>>15620732

I can think of one thing about Pikachu that I like… o.o

https://e621.net/post/show/1682581

>>15620732

Whenever I see someone who really fucking hates pikachu it reminds me of those old geocities anti-pokemon sites where people would rant about the series and make gifs of pikachu getting shot to death and shit.

>that kid who's parents couldn't afford pokemon so had to settle for off brand digimon

lols

>>15620840

At least RPS is balanced, pokemon doesn't have that either.

>>15620829

had both, digimon is more interesting. Digimon also is focused on a pair instead of a party which trainers tend to rotate out. a human and his digimon partner essentially grow together.

>>15619985

>Do I fit in yet guys?

>>15619946

This whole article is kind of stretching it. But did you know there is a Crobat cry actually coded into the game? Search around - it sounds EXACTLY like it.

>>15620902

Argument*

The first season of the Digimon animu is actually a good shonen, and blows anything Pokemen out of the water.

>>15619797

>asshat

Back to tumblr, nigger

>>15620947

You're thinking of the one that is shared with Zubat, according to TCRF

https://tcrf.net/Pok%C3%A9mon_Red_and_Blue/MissingNo.#Cries

Fun Fact: Zubat/Golbat's development, according to that article, is messed up enough that there was probably a different member of the family that got cut. So maybe there was a proto-Crobat or a different bat entirely.

I want a Gardevoir wearing Nokia's outfit

>>15619797

Just popped in to call you a nigger. Please stay here and never go to better boards.

the biggest strength of Digimon for me was that the mons could actually talk for the most part and be more buddy buddy than pet

Tamers was by far my favorite, Guilmon is a total bro and fucking adorable

and Renamon is so fucking hot

>(((Adventure Tri))) was massive success in Japan and because of it we're also getting another fucking Adventure sequel.

>Konaka's Tamers 2 proposal is never happening because even the Adventure 02 boxset sold better than the Tamers one

Adventureniggers were a mistake.

>>15619661

The menu of one of those games is apparently so awful you can't even see the screen during endgame? Is that true?

>>15619729

>>15619661

>pokemon relentlessly copies its old mechanics while digimon always tries to innovate

How terrible.

>>15621228

I've never enjoyed Kristal porn because she is my waifu.

>>15620906

>competitive chess

>a competition of memorization

Always hurt my soul. Growing up I though chess was a test of pure intelligence and strategy, but in truth, it's mostly about memorization. Memorize 50k strategies. If this guy does this thing, then you have to do this thing, etc. Still relies on intelligence, that's the reason white and Asian men dominate, but it's still not the pure battleground of wits I thought it was when I was a kid.

>>15621374

He is the guy that draws huge assholes, right ?

>>15621324

>not fapping to her anyway

>>15621411

Shadman, yes. Diives is a shit tier furry artist.

>>15621411

Diives just has issues with drawing proportional bodies, but is vanilla outside the yuri. I think you're thinking of Sunibee or Shadman.

The reason they're more popular is because of Nintendo managing the brand.

Say what you want about those kikes, they're very very skilled at making sure their flagship IPs live on forever

>>15621304

>i'm so bitter and salty i can't even acknowledge an intentional decision to go to great effort to maintain consistency as part of a successful market strategy, and must damage control

Nobody said this made the games BETTER, just more FINANCIALLY successful. Sure, success and quality are not the same thing, but maintaining this kind of consistency over decades and through multiple media is damned impressive.

>>15621420

>Masturbating to your waifu being fucked by someone else

I'm not a cuck.

>>15621547

>pokemon repetitiveness is impressive

There's a reason so many gamer girls love Pokemon, but none of them talk about Digimon.

>>15621615

So you and your girl had a pokemon weddink cake.

>>15621639

i couldnt eat the ninja turtles

>>15621643

I did.

>>15621596

So you like it when your favorite game franchise changes for no reason to try to get a wider audience? Only the v-pet based Digimon games are any good, fucking fight me.

>>15621228

>encouraging furfaggotry in any kind

furry detected

>>15621193

But how do you make another D-Reaper, remember the Reaper was part of the oldest programming responsible for digimon in their world and it was flat out destroyed in the physical world.

Shit, what was that digimon taichi fought in the V-Tamer manga? The one that can hop dimensions. I want to see that animated

>>15621655

Did you know that a severe aversion to changec to routine is one of the hallmark symptoms of autism?

>>15621668

Did you know that you have ADD you fucking retard?

>>15621490

I was going to argue that chinks would be the kikes of the east, but you're right

Chinks would be more the sandniggers

>>15619762

>rosemon

>lilithmon

>lilymon

>rosemon

yep digimon knows how to make sexy characters.

>>15619762

Actually, here's a good question. While trying to figure out any specifics is hard because digimon are fucked up, is it gay bestiality if you like one of those obviously female humanoid digimon that evolves from an obviously male non-humanoid digimon? Because frankly I have no idea and don't really want to know, but I want to make people think about this sort of thing so they suffer like I do.

>>15621801

>is liking traps gay

If you like them for their feminine features, it's not gay. If you like them because of their dick or other masculine features, it's gay.

Either way, traps are gay. There are plenty of actual women in porn, if you're looking for traps and you're not gay, then you're just looking for that extra taboo aspect because you're a porn addict who has been desensitized to regular porn.

Two important reasons

>>15619669

As this anon said Pokemon are constantly pumping out casts of mascots. People like cute Animals, they like simple memorable designs, they like things they can doodle in their notebooks when bored in school. Digimon in comparison are over designed and either look like some 'bad ass' monster a 8 year old kid would dream up or a patreon cosplayer.

Second, Pokemon games have consistent releases on some of the most successful consoles of all time, half of Digimon's good games are exclusive to an old Japanese only handheld.

>>15621855

Furry is the preferred fetish of people denied the right to prefer their own kind.

Hang all furries because they are cowards.

>>15621851

Reddit loves everything because they have no taste.

>>15621865

So what you're saying is you're not allowed to have 2D waifus? Because I agree, but that's only because I'm already a demon.

>>15619649

I remember back in the 2000's people thought that Digimon was just an attempt to rip off Pokemon (even with the "mon" suffix). Pokemon also had the anime, video games (GB RPG's, the connected Stadium games on N64 and non connected spin offs like Snap), TCG, toys, etc. So there was multiple ways to get into it.

While it can't be denied that Digimon had the better anime (with actual plot and character progression), the Pokemon franchise got a good foothold just by being existing in the west first. Maybe if it was the other way around Digimon could have the major franchise.

>>15621720

Have they started selling canned air (like in the movie Spaceballs), yet?

>>15622017

Goddammit, thought I turned spoiler images off

>>15621855 (Checked)

The fuck is that one furry doing out in the middle of the Atlantic? Is that an island or a proxy? Or is he trying to be one with the dolphins or some shit?

>>15622017

That map makes it look like America has a number of rashes…

>>15621865

>Furry is the preferred fetish of people denied the right to prefer their own kind.

also means:

>Natural inclination of germans to prefer their own kind is denied, so they go Furry instead

Wouldn't that make Furry implicitly white, as it meets the same needs? Furfags do seem to be almost exclusively white in practice.

>>15620859

>>15622048

>Caucasian ethnicity

I think you're onto something here

>>15622040

Wait, does that first product use propellants? Is vitality air just a huffing company?

>>15622114

Shit, I meant counterexample

Besides, I was using le ironic smiley

>>15622159

The nukes turned Japs into westaboos, there's a reason almost every anime character looks white. If they don't have blue eyes and blonde hair, they still have white features.

>>15622124

I couldn't say, a quick scan of their websitewould imply no, but I just can't stop laughing at how absurd it is to dig further.

>>15622185

Less the nukes themselves and more the fact that America essentially hit the reset button on japanese culture for a bit so we could colonize it with American cultural products.

>embed related, Postwar Japan: The Musical

>>15622205

>>15622202

It's honestly a shame the American influence combined with their insane work ethic is driving them to extinction. Those crazy bastards are pretty respectable otherwise.

>>15622217

I thought the work ethic shenanigans were a more recent phenomenon, but then I don't know that much about the history of modern Japland

>>15622251

Let me put it this way. The Japanese are probably one of the few countries that, if an ultimate superweapon was dropped on them, they'd say "we bet you don't have another". Fortunately the US had two nukes, otherwise the Japanese would have fought to the last man, woman, and child. Either World War 2 would still be going on right now, or the Japanese would be extinct.

>>15622244

Looks more like East/West Germany fuckery to me. Actually maybe that could be why Germany is so furry. Not sure how, but who knows.

>>15622251

As I recall, they weren't so geared into the Protestant work ethic back in the 60s. Then striving for excellence made them go to school for 10 hours a day until laws were passed limiting that. Then overly conscious education mamas force their children into cram school.

There's some pushback nowadays in the form of ゆとり教育, but they can't decide whether it's would be better for kids because they don't want to abandon having internationally recognized education

>>15622282

Honestly if you let people, especially kids, have any freedom, they end up like us. Wasting our lives playing video games, shitposting on the internet, and only maybe not having a completely shit job. So yeah, it's either that or working yourself to death. Megacorperations were a mistake, even without jews, because the truth is the potential to become a jew is inside each and every one of us, waiting to pop out like a skeleton. You might be able to resist it, but the fact of the matter is that with enough greed, anyone can become a jew, and as long as there is greed in this world the jew will continue.

>>15621480

>Fan Art

>>15619649

>the anime is top notch

Only the first season and tamers are good, still it's better than the pokemon anime which has been consistently shit

>games are varied and diverse

Pokemon has a lot of variety as well, but every single spin off sans snap and the mystery dungeon games has been subpar at best, with GO and pokken being particularly cancerous.

Everything else i agree, i haven't played any pokemon game past black 1 but i can tell they're all shit.

>>15622354

Fun Fact: I got into Transformers because I somehow found a Go-Bot in my garage. I think it was Scooter, probably. Amusingly, Go-Bots had a fucking awful cartoon compared to Transformers (which was okay with a few standout parts), but the real reason Go-Bots failed is because while in America the low price points sold more, the company Tonka licensed the toys from said "fuck it we're just re-releasing the same toys with a new anime", while on the other hand Transformers did so well that Takara was like "fuck both Micro Change and Diaclone, we're importing the Transformers cartoon and re-releasing most of the toys, and also working with Hasbro to make new ones". Personally, I'd love to write for a Go-Bots comic or a new Rock Lords cartoon, but only because I know I can get away with literally anything because if I throw in a few references to Go-Bots lore I can satisfy the few Go-Bots fans and I think nobody actually cares enough about Rock Lords to stop me from making it "Evangelion but instead of mecha it's Steven Universe". Mostly I just want to do incredibly insane shit, and make people really upset or depressed. Heck, maybe when Toonspew or whoever gets his Ghoul School whatever I can try getting /co/ to help me with my madness.

>>15619649

Digimon and Pokemon are two different beasts. Digimon is a tamagotchi for boys that expanded into other areas while Pokemon is a monster collector that also expanded. A more better comparison to Pokemon is Monster Rancher, Demikids and Dragon Quest Monsters.

>>15621720

I dont think you could get me to go inside one of those buildings that are essentially sand.

Soytendos will buy whatever nintendo shits out regardless of quality, and in fact will defend the worst nintendo shits out with a higher fervor than the best nintendo shits out.

>>15622244

>Rationalizing furries

they fuck dogs

>>15621816

Know what else has feminine features? real women

you're gay, end of story and possibly have mental trauma issues related to women so you seek out effeminate men because they're the same gender as you and would understand you but still have woman-like features.

all in all you're gay and mentally defective if you like traps

>>15622418

porn is gay and jewish

>>15622413

so what you're saying is japan should have stayed living in their mud huts. you weeaboos are too fucking stupid, man. literal subhumans. industrialization changed every single nation

>>15622429

>so what you're saying is japan should have stayed living in their mud huts.

See: >>15622438

Yes

>>15622438

>Furries need to post their gay shit in every thread if animals are involved

>>15622449

You cannot escape people posting lewd shit on this site. Not even in robot threads. Trust me, I've seen enough of this shit.

>>15622444

Japan EARNED their honorary aryan status.

>>15622460

But anon, these girls have weird heads and fur.

That's completely different from metallic humanoid girls with bolts and seams.

>>15622504

Because you're using mental gymnastics to justify liking dudes

you are gay and have brain damage, kill yourself

>>15622568

Check My ID. I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm not doing any gymnastics. It is a matter of fact that I only like cute, feminine traps. Masculinity is unattractive to me past a certain point. I know it's gay, you doofus. But I'm not as gay as most faggots. How much gay is worthy of suicide? What's the cutoff?

>>15622596

It's funnier when you realized these paintings were commissioned by Europeans

>>15622598

Nice logic

>>15622603

Whatever. Just because you consider the severity of my gayness to be irrelevant, just boiling it down to a binary switch of gay/not gay, it doesn't change the reality of it.

>>15622596

Might as well post old kemono art to stay with the thread "theme"

>>15622608

Wait, seriously? Were they commissioned by Europeans or (((Europeans)))?

>>15622626

Royalty, so, Europeans.

>Thread gets ruined by furries and faggots

Tamers 2 when?

>>15622629

>Throwing a fit about the Digimon/pokemon thread having furries in it.

Next thing you'll tell me you're positively shocked that furries are in the animal crossing thread.

>>15622629

Welcome to /v/, enjoy your stay

>>15622628

To be fair, though, there was a reason why they recognized as exotics in the first place. Some European prince so inbred that he shits purple didn't just wake up one day and decide to send a ship half-way around the world just to clandestinely commission his fetish porn. That shit was already well known in Japan, and had been brought back after being discovered on previous expeditions. Once they knew the source, they paid handsomely for curiosities from the orient.

>>15620732

I hate pikachu as well friend

>>15620474

Is nothing safe from the curse of beanface?

>>15621865

Are you suggesting having a 2D waifu is wrong?

>>15622460

Especially not the robot threads.

>>15619661

Nailed it, this annoyed me when I played the games. There's nothing wrong with SOME semblance of continuity or consistency, imagine your disappointment in the early digimon games where your Agumons don't evolve into Greymons and so on.

I enjoyed the various different kinds of RPGs otherwise, but they needed a bit more grounding like linear evolution paths and types because it's been a gigantic clusterfuck that didn't make any sense between games. Using any knowledge you've gained in one game or anime was almost always completely useless for the next one.

>>15619844

>>15622393

>>15622524

Monster Rancher would've been a lot better as a game series if they'd taken notes from the first season of the anime before it went "tournament mode", a shame that MMORPG never took off along with completely destroying all the old designs. EVO was probably as close as it was going to get to letting you adventure with your monsters.

>>15619844

>>15619847

I always liked how Jade Cocoon let you fight, although unfortunately not alongside your monster at the same time. To make matters worse they quickly threw that unique aspect out of the window in the sequel.

>>15620732

I hate how years later Pikachu is still useless and they insist on making a new knockoff Pikachu every generation instead of fixing the one they fucking have.

>>15623022

Should've reported the niggers

>>15619649

Are you kidding? Charizard is a nice, simple, memorable design. Whatever the fuck that Digimon is, it's a clusterfuck of shit that looks like it was designed by a child.

>>15622017

it means that freaks who spend their whole lives living in babylonian nightmare cities will do anything to get back in touch with their primal nature, even if it means fucking animals

>>15623079

I didn't realize Mesopotamia had suburbs

digimon might have better anime (not sure) but the games are definitely inferior.

Cyber Sleuth had so much potential to be great, but the difficulty was so poor, you could beat the game with just autoattacks, spamming the same moves over and over. Also the silent protagonist is terrible for such a game, he really needed to have a personality to fit into the world. ANd he looked like a woman, wtf were they thinking? YOu're better off playing as the girl character instead of the effeminate boy who is transitioning into a girl.

I put like 8 or 9 hours into it and just stopped because there was no challenge to the game, and from what i read on forums its the same at every difficulty, its super easy (except for some parts near the end where the difficulty spikes up artificially) .

Meanwhile I put like 90 hours into Pokemon Ultra Moon, had a great time with it.

>>15623081

im talking biblical babylon not historical one, which are basically two separate things given jewish lies

>>15622616

The severity doesn't matter because you're still attracted to men. Your defense would hold up if you only liked pre-sprung traps, but you're trying to convince people that you're "only slightly gay" for wanting to fuck a guy in a skirt. Girly boys are still boys, and you're bisexual at best.

>>15622048

>>15622650

Or instead of WHITE, it's first world countries. Africa's a shithole and so on. And there's loads of black furries, it's a decadence age thing.

<furfags

>>>/eerie/

>>15619661

This, along with the massive boost to Pokemon by Nintendo's backing and it's successful sales when it's the got-to-have handheld game. There's also the problem with Bandai treating Digimon after the original series with new iterations like fucking Gundam with it's own universe and bullshit, then the anime went a bit haywire with their damn stories that didn't tie to each other and the quality of the games went towards the toilet, themes might be mature, but damn, Pokemon and it's Rated E for E-Fucking just completely killed Digimon when every year, it's entry-level shit is accepting of every new kid that gets suckered right in, unlike Digimon, and fuck, the potential was lost.

>>15622114

>Tennis

You say that but 90% of Tennis News these days is non whites like Kygrious and Williams sperging out all the fucking time

>>15623189

m8 other countries have done the same for the Olympics and do you know what happened?

The changes were removed after the Olympics

>>15623197

I dunno Sydney is still shit

>>15623200

Sydney was shit before and after though;

the Olympics barely did anything to it.

>>15623200

>>15623204

Brazil completely reverted after the Olympics, along with their pockets being in deep shit in debt.

>>15623204

it had slightly less gooks and muzzies

>>15623206

did Brazil even bother to change even during the games

>>15623200

Sydney only went to complete shit in the past 5 years or so when the gooks started shitting out apartments.

>>15623212

Nope, apparently the entire Brazil Olympic Committee along with the Leftshit Government did the Olympics in order to steal more money, "Legitimately", it's why the Elections in Hueland is so fucking tight and the people are willing to elect since fucking forever, a Right-wing President.

>>15623008

what point are you even trying to make? germans were the proto furries. it doesn't matter how they obtain their fur suits

>>15623138

>it's better than western animation

Yeah, but that's my whole point though.

>>15620732

I don't like Pikachu but I love Raichu.

>>15622185

They aren't westaboos and anime characters don't look white, whites just think they do because they have an inferiority complex towards the Japanese. Hallucinating anime characters as white is a way of gaining the approval of the Japanese. "See, they worship us so much that they make their characters look like us! I guess we are the master race after all!" Nevermind that this master race status can only be granted to whites by the Japanese, not by whites themselves. I wonder who is the real master race here.

>>15622644

Meanwhile white countries are willingly letting themselves be genocided and replaced by barbarians from Africa and the Middle East, people are all becoming crazy suicidal dangerhair trannies, we're right on the cusp of pedophilia becoming the next civil rights issue, and accordingly everyone politely looks the other way when muslims and catholic priests leave a trail of raped children in their wake. Then they go on the internet to complain about how degenerate Japan is for allowing beach episodes in anime because the characters are only 17.

Turns out being consistent, even if it is consistent mediocrity, is a more successful formula than mixing up fucking everything you ever do (especially "digivolution lines").

>>15622275

>Let me put it this way. The Japanese are probably one of the few countries that, if an ultimate superweapon was dropped on them, they'd say "we bet you don't have another". Fortunately the US had two nukes, otherwise the Japanese would have fought to the last man, woman, and child. Either World War 2 would still be going on right now, or the Japanese would be extinct.

The surrender actually had more to do with the threat of Soviet Mongrels running a rape train on Japan like they ran on East Germany than either of the two nukings. Those were just from America's Moloch-worshipping Jewish administration to exterminate Japanese Christians.

>>15623725

The fact that Western culture is consumed in Japan does not mean that the Japanese are westaboos who worship the West and cry themselves to sleep for not being born white. That's just what you want to believe due to your inferiority complex.

These meme skull measurement images have been posted a billion times and they're all bullshit. There are other images that use the same format to reach the opposite conclusion because it's all just cherry-picking and distortion to get the conclusion you want.

>>15622814

That might apply to pokemonxpokemon breeding, but human genes are weaker so they don't breed true.

>>15623733

>who worship the West and cry themselves to sleep for not being born white

And I never said such a thing. But if you thing there's not a cultural fascination with the west then you're just oblivious. What I want to bring your attention to is why there is such a fascination. Protip: the 4th image in particular can give you an important clue.

Now the meme skulls I may give you a pass. As for the general facial traits on the other hand, you'd have to be retarded to think they depict fully Asian characteristics.

The first picture ought to lead you to compare Asian features (not necessarily Korean because that's a whole package right there, and I'm far from having figured them out) with features found among the Japanese.

>>15623744

As for you, I wasn't defending the idea that there's superiority to be found between races in my post. You drew that conclusion on your own.

>Their propaganda is also 15 years old.

Fallacy. And read between the lines.

>>15623782

Western culture is everywhere. It's global culture. Having a fascination with Western culture doesn't mean being a self-loathing westaboo.

>As for the general facial traits on the other hand, you'd have to be retarded to think they depict fully Asian characteristics.

Why do you think this is a binary choice between white and Japanese? What race are the Simpsons meant to be?

>>15623804

I'm sure you wish they did.

>>15623810

Why would I?

>>15623172

>>15623189

Not to mention with rising nationalist sentiment since sanctions on their army were lifted and seeing how Europe is going we may be surprised.

Plus, thousands of foreign tourists being a nuisance, littering and even outright crime are sure to put their back up even more. I think the argument to stay self-contained is gonna heat up after the olypmics, and we'll get more people arguing to keep Japan closed off while merely importing or creating their own variants on things they want (entertainment, food, clothes, etc).

I think they're one of the few nations that can buy up their own debt to make it null and void, and not have it run-away into inflation. But they're still a Rothchilds bank IIRC.

>>15623828

You can find a Japanese (or American or German or Russian) guy to explain anything you want explained. There is no white worship in anime.

>trying this hard to push your propaganda

>>15620859

Except her fucked up feet make me want to vomit and I'm not even a footfag

>>15623794

>Having a fascination with Western culture doesn't mean being a self-loathing westaboo.

Self-loathing? I don't claim that. Westaboo? It more or less does my dude. Especially when it concerns a people as isolationist as the Japanese. But that's not really the point I'm trying the convey.

>Why do you think this is a binary choice between white and Japanese?

Because of Japan's history and because of what their drawings look like. Inspiration has to come from somewhere, and they had plenty of it among themselves.

Even if they didn't purposefully attempt to depict white features (and they did), they are still drawing characters that possess traits that belong more to a typical white than a typical Asian. Which would mean no matter what, on some level, they are attracted to them, or at least some (quite a few) of them are.

>What race are the Simpsons meant to be?

American. :^)

>>15623818

Because conveniently avoiding data makes you a self-righteous sophist.

>>15623830

>You can find a Japanese (or American or German or Russian) guy to explain anything you want explained.

Indeed you can. But if you dismiss data on the basis that it could be wrong, then for all intents and purposes you'll never know the truth.

>There is no white worship in anime.

Well, maybe. Or maybe there is. How are you so certain?

>>15623841

>Westaboo? It more or less does my dude.

Westaboo is to the West what weeaboo is to Japan. People aren't westaboos by making Dark Souls or Strike Witches. I watch anime and listen to Japanese music all day long and I'm still not a weeaboo.

>Because of Japan's history and because of blah blah

Anime characters don't look white. The Japanese don't wish to be white. You have an inferiority complex and you are constructing all these narratives to create a situation where the Japanese appear to worship you.

>Because conveniently avoiding data makes you a self-righteous sophist.

Some guy rambling on Youtube is not "data."

>How are you so certain?

Because 1) I don't have an inferiority complex and 2) I actually watch anime.

>>15623841

>japanese/german/american/russian guy explaining any given thing

You realize you're defending very much literal anecdotal evidence?

>>15623847

>Westaboo is to the West what weeaboo is to Japan. People aren't westaboos by making Dark Souls or Strike Witches. I watch anime and listen to Japanese music all day long and I'm still not a weeaboo.

Alright, you're correct. If we're going on the definition of weeaboo as "one who considers Japanese culture to be superior to his own" then we can say that the Japanese are not westaboos. Not necessarily that is.

>Because of Japan's history and because of blah blah

You exhibit the behavioral tendencies of an egocentric kid throwing a tantrum.

>Anime characters don't look white.

They do, as I said their traits look more white than Asian. This is readily observable

>The Japanese don't wish to be white.

A bunch of them do. They even had some sort of fad around a diet that would in time turn your hair blond or your eyes blue. Can't recall with exactness though. There's also this thing they have where they fantasize about their language turning into something close to European languages over the span of the next few centuries.

>You have an inferiority complex and you are constructing all these narratives to create a situation where the Japanese appear to worship you.

Maybe I do. Or maybe I don't and you're telling yourself that to put yourself at ease in your own paradigm. And who said this had anything to do with worship?

>Some guy rambling on Youtube is not "data."

It is. It may not be scientific data but it is still the words of a Japanese, and that would certainly warrant some interest in what he has to say on my part. it can at the very least give you a direction to investigate in. As far as I can see you're not basing your shit on anything more than "la la la I can't hear you", so you have to start somewhere.

<How are you so certain?

>Because 1) I don't have an inferiority complex and 2) I actually watch anime.

That's not basis for certainty, pal. And I'd say there's room for doubt on both of these claims.

That being said, did you get what I was trying to nudge you toward here? >>15623782

>>15623872

>You realize you're defending very much literal anecdotal evidence?

I'm not, though anecdotes depict patterns, and thus are worthy of consideration in their own right. I'm defending that unless you're willing to look at all possibilities, which requires to pay attention and not limit your horizons at what you want to believe, you'll only notice what you want to see.

In this case the dude could at least open the fucking webm before judging it.

>>15623900

>You exhibit the behavioral tendencies of an egocentric kid throwing a tantrum.

You exhibit the behavioral tendencies of someone with a racial inferiority complex who needs to construct a fantasy world to be able to live with himself.

>They do

They don't. You have an inferiority complex.

>A bunch of them do.

You have an inferiority complex.

>Or maybe I don't

You do.

>It is.

No.

>That's not basis for certainty, pal.

It is.

>>15623915

Nobody cares about how much effort you're putting into justifying your delusions.

>>15619649

Digimon is just edgy pokemon that started as a tomigachi ripoff.

pokemon is just babbys 1st rpg with super shallow turn based combat.

>>15623991

Reminder that you have an inferiority complex.

>>15624003

You are projecting. You have an inferiority complex.

>>15624015

anon, stop posting, you're embarrassing yourself.

>>15624020

I have done nothing to embarass myself.

>>15624022

You are projecting. You have an inferiority complex.

>>15624040

>devolves into some gook going full retard over people telling him he's a gook

And where exactly has this been occuring?

>>15624040

If only the furshit in-between didnt happen, this would be just a thread to laugh at the gook tbh

>>15624052

Are you people hallucinating? Until >>15624040, the following were the only posts that said anything about gooks:

>>15623211

>>15623213

>>15624062

What are you talking about?

>>15619649

>Ever since it's inception Digimon has consistently shat on Pokémon so much it's not even funny.

That's because digimon is complete shit that only furries could truly love. It's amazing that they're still even trying to keep it alive, since it seems like even in japland it barely has a pulse.

>>15619661

What truly killed digimon was the season why they replaced all the kids digimon with do it yourself fursuits

>>15619963

/monster/ IS shit.

It's not an opinion, it's a blatant fact.

Try to discuss actual monster love games like Teraurge there, it's hilarious.

If you made a review of an obscure digimon game how where would you post it for maximum exposure? I'm digging through all the shit no one played as I want to make non-autistic reviews of digimon games.

>>15624419

>If you made a review of an obscure digimon game how where would you post it for maximum exposure?

As many places as possible, i'd imagine. Would increase the chance of someone stumbling on it for sure.

>>15624413

The point of /monster/ is monster girls, not girl monsters, you dimwit.

>>15624064

>>15624058

Jesus Christ, it really is a bug wearing human skin.

>>15624465

What are you talking about?

>>15620535

Tamers is overrated as fuck. It's almost entirely filler up until the final 10 episodes when shit hits the fan. None of the characters change very much and the additional team members are worthless filler the entire time. The highlight of the series is Jijimon and Babamon fighting. Nothing comes close to it. Terriermon and Lopmon deserved better.

Savers is the only good Digimon TV series because it has a constant moving story with real arcs. The characters evolve and mature and real opponents are added they don't just die in an episode and never return.

>>15623083

Cybersleuth is digimon attempting to appeal to the Persona audience. Hacker's memory is better.

You also quit the game before it started to get hard. The secret bosses will wreck you even with maxed out digimon if you don't very carefully control the battle.

>>15622614

He's the tie in to the TV series they're making to follow Tri. Maybe it won't be boring like Tri was.

>>15624419

quantity over quality anon. plaster it all over the place.

>>15624421

I don't want to get banned from forums for talking about a Wonderswan game TBH.

>>15624492

Suggestions?

>>15624494

i dont really have any in particular, but if you want your content to reach out as many people as possible, what you need is quantity.

and when i say quantity i mean quantity in visibility, not quantity in content. your content should be as high quality as possible. but it should be spread all over the place. are you trying to make youtube bux?

>>15624470

You. You're a bug. A pest. A glitch in the system. An unplanned occurrence. A being that should not be. A being that serves only to inconvenience others. Also.

>(16)

>>15624505

What are you talking about? This is a very simple question.

>(16)

This has never been an argument and is never going to become one.

>>15624501

I was considering trying to make some shekels. I tend to like obscure vidya and weird shit that no one talks about. Why not give it a review or a retrospective?

>>15619675

>Pokemon's focus is multiplayer

I'd bet good money that at least 90% of people who play Pokemon never actually use any multiplayer features, especially multiplayer battles. They might trade for exclusives online, which might as well be single player since you're barely communicating with the other player at all. This might have been a higher number back in the '90s when it was the big fad and kids could trade with their friends at school. Now it's still big, but not in the same way.

The games are not the same genre, though. Digimon is always totally different genres each time, and only a couple have been at all similar to Pokemon. If anything I think this hurt it a lot. People wanted it to be like Pokemon, a simple and easy to understand JRPG. Instead the first big game released in the west was a super obtuse virtual pet, where you couldn't go on adventure without training your guy like hell first, and then he'd die no matter what and you'd have to put your adventure on pause for days to re-train to your old level and make a tiny bit more progress before you die.

Now don't get me wrong, it's a good virtual pet, and that makes sense because the franchise is based on a line of virtual pets, but people just wanted to collect their favorite monsters and go fight Vamdemon and the Dark Masters. Instead the story of the game has nothing to do with the anime, and doesn't feel like the same world at all (even though it technically is the same world, while pokemon's anime technically isn't the same world as the games). So kids who were all about the anime wouldn't feel that same connection with the games.

Of course there were games like the ones that we would have expected. They were heavily tied in with the anime, a simple little turn based RPG, where you go around collecting all the monsters you recognize. To top it off, they were so tied to the anime that the second season is practically a sequel to the second game, and the third season is practically a sequel to the fourth game. Well too bad, because these are only for an obscure Japanese-only handheld. Some of the other Digimon games for this handheld, shitty fighting games, did get ported to Game Boy Advance. The RPG ones that people would have actually wanted remain Japan exclusive though, with not even fan translations online.

Of course plenty of people did love Digimon World, despite game breaking bugs in both the NA and European versions, including a bug that makes it so the European version literally cannot be completed no matter what. But people love Digimon and it's very well made game if you don't have the European version. So the sequel, Digimon World 2, is a completely different game, a dungeon crawler. Again a super obtuse one, too. Not something kids are going to understand easily. Again it's a whole different world from both the anime and previous game, btw. But hey a lot of people still like this game too. Less than before though. So of course the third game is again a different genre and different world, losing even more audience.

Following the trend of the games, the third season of the anime is also a completely different world and cast of characters. Actually if you play those Japanese only games it is connected to the old anime, but those games weren't released here, so kids would never know, and many would lose interest since the characters and world they were attached to weren't here anymore. And then they'd do it again in Season 4, to an even greater degree, where now even the basic mechanics are totally different, and the kids become the Digimon. Then this trend continues in both the anime and the games, being totally different and unrelated to everything else every time, until finally all the original fans have fallen off and there's barely anything connecting the new entries to the old except for a couple character designs. And then they brought back the original anime continuity, and instead of making it about monster fights, it's waifubait shit with no fucking plot and a completely different tone.

I love Digimon, but I completely understand why it failed. They killed it. Nothing carries over from year to year, so there's no reason to keep paying attention unless you just really like the name "Digimon" for some reason.

>>15624568

Stuff not carrying over is also one of digimons biggest strengths. A lot of the problems the West has with it is due to the Western companies not making it clear they were different things. In Japan Digimon has several sub franchises, the Western released just call them all Digimon world.

People who want the JRPG adventure games want Digimon Story games. The people who want the virtual pets want the Digimon World games. By labeling them all Digimon World people didn't know what to expect and got shafted.

For the sake of Argument. Digimon Tamers is connected with the Adventure universe. The Wonderswan games act as prequels to the 02 anime explaining Ken's back story. It revolves around Ryo and his Digimon partner. Ryo ends up as multiverse traveler so after saving the Adventure cast he ends up meeting the Tamers cast. The original Digimon manga with Taichi and the AeroVeemon line have several cross over chapters where the digital worlds cross over. Daisuke, Takeru and the Frontier kids all meet him.

Digimon is completely connected to it's self in Japan. The Digital world constantly overlaps and connects to it's self in other dimensions. It's problem is the West doesn't translate half the media so you miss out on all the connections within the anime themselves. Ryo being a multiple game character who ties everything together being the most important one. Xros wars is the only anime to make it obvious things crossed over that way but now the games have Mirai who does the same thing Ryo did (but again her games are missing from the West so her story is incomplete. Same with the Veemon tamer who appears in Sleuth from her own game).

>>15624481

I wish I was told to play Hacker's Memory first. I hated that redheaded slut and how relevant she was to the story by the end of the game.

>>15624479

>hating furfags is goon sentiment

Nigger you are living in a post-Kero scandal world. If anything people have objective reasons to hate furfags now.

>>15624623

>you are complete shit.

Said the degenerate.

>>15619829

>Play Pokemon Ruby

>Gotta catch 'em all!

>Okay, I'll trade over my old guys from my copy of Gold/Silver/Crystal, since that already includes all my guys from Red/Blue/Yellow, who I traded over to the sequels years ago

>get Link Cable that connects to all three types of Game Boys, so I can ask any of my friends to lend me their Game Boy and trade with my GBA

>Oh wait, I can't trade over my guys to this game for some reason. One of my friends said it was because of stats being different and stuff, but stats, and lots of other things, are different between R/B/Y and G/S/C, and that didn't stop me from trading between them.

>I miss my bros

>I guess I have to catch them all again

>maybe I have to trade with Sapphire version but that's par for the course

>catch every available Pokemon and trade for the Sapphire exclusives

>still missing a bunch of old ones

>but it's not like it's all new ones. It's a random smattering of new ones and old ones. Just enough old ones to remind you of all the bros you couldn't trade over this time

>but wait, now you can get them all again, because we're rereleasing Red and Green so that you can trade with them this time!

>who cares that the originals are the best selling games of all time, and only came out five years ago, so everyone in the world already owns them. Buy them again, goy! Or you can't beat the new games!

>buy them again

>Catch 'em all again, plus some new ones from Gen II and III

>wait, this still doesn't add up

>still can't get a bunch of guys from Gen II

>well, you're in luck, goy! We have a few Gamecube Pokemon games now! And they actually play like the main games, instead of just being spinoffs like Stadium and Snap

>well, they're sort of like the main games, only heavily simplified, you know, so it can run on this much more powerful hardware

>but if you get the special editions of the games, they come with exclusive Pokemon so you can actually catch 'em all!

>but of course you need to buy a Gamecube

>and the two games

>and a Gamecube/Game Boy Advance Link Cable

Yeah, in Pokemon, you can catch 'em all, so long as you buy five games, which are really only two games, and one of those two is a remake of a recent game everyone already owned, and then you need to buy a whole other console, and a link cable for that console to your Game Boy, and then two special editions of games for that console. And then you still need to go to one-time events in real life to get the last couple special guys.

>>15624639

Hackers memory is the expansion pack and doesn't make sense without the main game's story. Lots of big events happen off screen so you need the base game to understand it. The Jap release had the original and hacker's memory in the same box.

Hating furries was always normal. It's the soft touch chan culture that let it slide. Kero didn't do anything different to every other furry, everyone else just forgot they were like that.

>>15619661

This

>>15619796

Nigger you do not understand, you have never bought Baldurs Gate Dark Alliance or the original XBOX Fallout Brotherhood of Steel expecting the games of their namesake. You don't understand the playing just about every megaman game knowing how they were different within their series but still knowing what to expect after the first. Brand recognition is fucking important and part of why Digimon never caught on as hard as Pokemon did.

>>15624624

>Xros wars is the only anime to make it obvious things crossed over that way

Which also didn't make it's way to english, at least the final part which explains all that shit.

>>15624656

>Yeah, in Pokemon, you can catch 'em all, so long as you buy five games, which are really only two games, and one of those two is a remake of a recent game everyone already owned, and then you need to buy a whole other console, and a link cable for that console to your Game Boy, and then two special editions of games for that console. And then you still need to go to one-time events in real life to get the last couple special guys.

I'd say you could just trade with a friend for all that shit, but that hasn't really been an option since Gen 1, since they keep adding all those fucking R@re mandatory collectable pokemon you have to buy shit for, oh, and don't forget the hard to find Pokemon Colosseum bonus disk, since if you don't have that, you ain't getting Jirachi.

>>15624672

Final fantasy really suffered for changing it's mechanics every game and having multiple spin off franchises all playing quite differently.

Oh wait, it was the biggest RPG ever.

Should we discuss Pokemon being even more inconsistent than Digimon is as a series? Pokemon Snap, Hey Pikachu, Pokemon Not Tetris Attack. The list goes on and on. Digimon never made anything as whacky as those 3. It's stayed mostly within it's identity and made virtual pets or dungeon crawling JRPGs.

>>15624623

>applying NPC meme to pokemon vs digimon

Pokemon girls are pure sex and Sora is a bitch, and I don't care if it was just the American version fucking fight me.

>>15624691

Yeah man, comparing Pokemon Ranger to Pokemon Channel, they're not even the same game. I can't believe they'd be so inconsistent with the games.

>>15624624

>People who want the JRPG adventure games want Digimon Story games. The people who want the virtual pets want the Digimon World games. By labeling them all Digimon World people didn't know what to expect and got shafted.

That's only recent. Digimon Story wasn't a thing until Digimon was already dead and trying to make a comeback.

>For the sake of Argument. Digimon Tamers is connected with the Adventure universe.

I know that, I mentioned it in my post. But you can't expect kids to know that. Especially kids who never had the games released in their region, which is every kid outside Japan.

>The original Digimon manga with Taichi and the AeroVeemon line have several cross over chapters where the digital worlds cross over. Daisuke, Takeru and the Frontier kids all meet him.

Again not released here, which is a shame since it's a great manga. Still though, the fact that it's about an alternate Taichi, who is a totally different character, in a world nothing like the anime, with a cast nothing like the anime, just shows how fucked the brand management is, with no regards for kids being confused. Pokemon has Red and Ash who are technically different characters, but if you know one you can understand the other.

I know Digimon lore, and it's my favorite part of the franchise. But make no mistake, even if you pay attention to everything that is released, including stuff that is Japan-only, it's still super obscure and confusing. Tons of stuff that we talk about is practically headcanon that is only vaguely implied, and if we're lucky, actually explained in a sequel that only came out 15 years after the franchise stopped being relevant. See: How Mugendramon from Digimon World relates to Mugendramon from Digimon Adventure and how Mugendramon from Adventure relates to Millenniummon. And what about the Holy Beasts? We meet them in the Adventure universe and then see them in the Tamers universe and are basically supposed to act like they're the same guys, but are they? Are they also multiversal beings, or are we dealing with two separate sets of them from two separate universes? This is never mentioned in anything, even though Ryo meets them in both the Adventure universe and the Tamers universe.

I'm all about the deep lore, but even if you have access to all the material, even if you aren't getting fucked by dub censorship or bad translations confusing character names, even if you can actually afford to buy the dozens of different games, even if you actually enjoy the dozens of different genres of games enough to want to complete them and understand the story, it's still obscure and confusing as fuck. Which is part of the fun, but I won't blame the 12 year olds the virtual pets are made for for not following along with this.

>>15624693

It wasn't just the American version. Sora is a cunt. Mimi is literally the embodiment of purity, however. Objectively best waifu.

>>15624691

Digimon doesn't have a main series and spinoffs. Every game is just completely different. Only recently did they even return to games in the style of the original Digimon World, and begin doing consistent JRPGs. So still two different "main" things. And frankly, too little, too late. They should have done something to appeal to animefags and actual children 20 years ago.

>>15623138

It’s only better than western animation because western animation is shit now.

>>15624723

While I can appreciate the sentiment, the best Digimon stuff all came out 20 years ago. Your mindset of catering only to the most hardcore weeb adults resulted in Tri. Cater to children. Children know what's cool. That's why the franchise was good in the first place, because it catered to those children.

>>15624669

>Hating furries was always normal. It's the soft touch chan culture that let it slide.

I've always wondered how many here share the fetish. Seems like a good majority of the board is into some variation of furshit, be it kemo, monster, brony, "scalie", or just plain aliens, etc.

>>15624729

Cyber Sleuth is objectively the best Digimon game ever made. Even if you like Digimon world 1 more, it's a worse game due to the raising element and obscure bullshit that requires too much autism to figure out.

Digimon caters to different age groups. We have Tri for adults and Applimon for children. Both ran at the same time.