7774cc No.15582895
You have 30 seconds to justify why you're still using Steam and/or supporting Valve despite what they've become.
caf97f No.15582903
>>15582895
>still using it
All my games are there. I've stopped buying more but I can't just abandon the ones I've already paid for. Money doesn't grow on trees.
dcdf16 No.15582908
I don't answer to you, gay man.
a53b71 No.15582912
There's nothing wrong with Steam.
Bumplocked.
ab1005 No.15582913
I'm not poor and I don't care about the state of the industry.
c3583f No.15582914
>>15582895
If valve died EA or someone else would just buy steam out and do it instead. Valve are the least worst AAA company.
790309 No.15582916
I've never used steam, because it's fucking garbage.
9da427 No.15582920
I stopped using it over a year ago because I have forgotten my password. Not a big loss anyway.
c3a0a8 No.15582921
>>15582895
Recently their no censorship move has been pretty good
If you mean Denuvo, that's not their doing.
7774cc No.15582924
>>15582908
Yes you do faggot.
1a21b2 No.15582930
>>15582895
Steam is the only place to buy weeb games for PC. If nobody buys them the nips will stop porting them and stop translating them and then we all lose out. Someone has to pay for things and when you grow up you'll realise that too.
5c6cb0 No.15582943
>>15582930
>Someone has to pay for things and when you grow up you'll realise that too.
This. The reason the industry has changed almost entirely to making games for casuals is that casuals are both a larger market and will actually pay for games. If you complain that the industry no longer makes games for your tastes and aren't willing to support the devs who do you're a retard. The reason Japan on the other hand does still get non-casual games is that the Japanese really do pay for it because piracy over there is more or less non-existent. They also still have arcades because culturally they still realise the value in going to one instead of the cheaper experience of playing on a home console.
c3a0a8 No.15582944
>>15582930
>me I'm an adult fallacy
Not a convincing argument anyway, /v/irgins would just tell you they'd rather learn Japanese over having altered localizations
7774cc No.15582948
>>15582921
Their no censorship shit is just a reaction to negative publicity. It's not out of conviction or principal and they'd reverse it in a second if they thought it would hit their profits.
1a21b2 No.15582953
>>15582944
>rather learn Japanese
Then they still won't be ported to PC so the games will be locked to consoles for decades to come until emulation catches up if it ever even does.
c3a0a8 No.15582966
>>15582948
>Their no censorship shit is just a reaction to negative publicity
I don't see how that's relevant. In practical terms, they're doing it.
>they'd reverse it in a second if they thought it would hit their profits.
>expecting convictions from a fucking company
Jesus
Its the consumer's duty to make sure they're not getting fucked. Giving them bad publicity is the way they do that.
>>15582953
Exactly. And they're fine with that
caf81f No.15582967
>>15582953
Consoles are less of an intrusion on my privacy than Steam.
1a21b2 No.15583014
>>15582967
>>15582966
The problem is those consoles will eventually go out of production as will the physical games. Then scalpers show up.
d72063 No.15583015
No decent alternatives other than (((GoG)))
7774cc No.15583023
>bumplocked
For what purpose?
>>15582966
>Its the consumer's duty to make sure they're not getting fucked. Giving them bad publicity is the way they do that.
Not supporting shitty companies at all is a better one.
>>15583015
If you want alternatives you have to stop supporting steam. Create a demand for them.
caf81f No.15583043
>>15583023
>For what purpose?
Probably your shitty no-effort OP, but who can say what Mark and his team are thinking?
47a257 No.15583047
>>15583023
because your gay OP
7774cc No.15583058
>>15583043
>no-effort
If mark wants gigantic length OPs that say the same exact thing as shorter ones but with a bunch of filler words so we can pretend it's higher quality he can turn on the minimum OP length feature 8chan has.
c3a0a8 No.15583082
>>15583023
Then never buy anything. Go live innawoods.
All companies are shitty at some point. You'll never be satisfied with anyone.
>>15583014
Better than having altered localizations is what they'd say.
Go to threads about Japanese games and tell them that if you feel like arguing this so much. I've never seen you in those.
c3a0a8 No.15583100
>>15583058
It really is no effort though. He didn't say anything at all. he could've at least listed reasons for why he hates Steam so much buy he didn't do even that. Cuckchan threads are all like this. Go there if that's to your liking.
7774cc No.15583113
>>15583082
>live innawoods
If only that was an option.
>>15583100
If you're so new here you don't know why Steam/Valve are bad you need to leave.
caf81f No.15583129
>>15583113
>If you don't like my anal leakage OPs you need to leave.
c3a0a8 No.15583140
>>15583113
>If only that was an option.
Always is.
>If you're so new here you don't know why Steam/Valve are bad you need to leave.
That's a strawman. It's not that you don't know, but that OP is focusing on something specific that they did to come up with this thread. It gives the thread a starting point with actual content.
You're so distrustful of people asking for an OP with content, calling them ignorant of Steam wrongdoings. What about OP himself? Maybe he doesn't know shit. He could be just parroting people complaining about Steam
Face it, there's no good reason for low effort. Like I said, cuckchan is the place for you if you're into that.
7774cc No.15583155
>>15583140
>low effort
A longer OP is not any higher effort it's just filler. This is /a/-tier logic.
caf81f No.15583161
>>15583155
>it's just filler
Maybe you should leave the new thread posting to people with enough thoughts in their skulls to write an OP that isn't just filler.
7774cc No.15583170
>>15583161
There's nothing inherently smarter about making a longer OP to get the same short idea across.
c3a0a8 No.15583172
>>15583155
>it's just filler.
Content isnt filler.
>This is /a/-tier logic.
No, but this is an ad hominem.
Just go to cuckchan. You're not going to convince Mark or other posters, much less with these garbage "arguments". You've obviously only been here briefly and are much more accustomed to their ways.
caf81f No.15583178
>>15583170
Either you're actually retarded or you're just fucking around. Either way, fuck off.
7774cc No.15583188
>>15583178
>>15583172
Riddle me this then niggers. What exactly is so high quality about threads like these:
>>15563565
>>15577224
>>15582115
>>15580063
Or is it just that they didn't happen to trigger a vol who wanted to use this as an excuse?
c3a0a8 No.15583206
>>15583188
I feel like I'm talking to a 5 year old at this point, explaining the most obvious shit.
You made a thread with a baseless claim. You could've focused on what exactly you thought was so bad about Steam that made you think that but you didn't.
The threads you listed don't have claims that warrant reasoning or evidence. They're either questions or invitations to name games. Claims like yours warrant effort. If you hate effort this much, then do go on ahead and make threads like the ones you listed. Use them as a reference.
But I suggest you stick to cuckchan instead.
7774cc No.15583212
>>15583206
Claiming that Breath of Fire III is a 'perfect game that stood the test of time' is not a claim that warrants reasoning or evidence in your world?
f059a5 No.15583216
>>15582967
>Consoles are less of an intrusion on my privacy than Steam.
Are you ready to #kinect?
knew this thread would be full of console yards with no self awareness.
f059a5 No.15583227
>>15583216
>yards
Tards.
I hate having to phone post.
588136 No.15583242
People are always telling me, don't buy always pirate. I mean yeah that is always a good thing to do, might as well get something for free if you aren't sure about it.
Where does one begin though? I am planning on finally getting around to building a desktop, and after spending the money I am going to spend, I would rather have a free backlog. Better than just saving up money again to blow it on some crap game that I thought was going to be good.
7774cc No.15583256
>>15583242
>Where does one begin though?
Do you mean finding games? Share thread. If you're asking of suggestions where to start pick a genre you like and run down the list of obvious recommendations.
c3a0a8 No.15583264
>>15583212
The thread was about naming games, not Breath of Fire specifically.
Your thread, on the other hand, is specifically prompting people to justify themselves based on an unexplained premise that X is bad
His thread would only be comparable if he had worded it like "Breath of Fire is perfect. Prove me wrong", in which case I would have agreed with you.
You're free to go whenever you want. Halfchan doesn't have these rules.
7774cc No.15583287
>>15583264
>The thread was about naming games, not Breath of Fire specifically.
So you'd be just as ok if he put an objectively shit game in the OP? After all he's just naming games.
>His thread would only be comparable if he had worded it like "Breath of Fire is perfect. Prove me wrong", in which case I would have agreed with you.
It's literally the same thing with different wording. He's making the claim it's perfect and it's implict that someone should come argue with him otherwise the thread is just a circle-jerk.
>Your thread, on the other hand, is specifically prompting people to justify themselves based on an unexplained premise that X is bad
Now let's look at this thread >>15577224
Wouldn't you agree that it has the unexplained premise that a a sale based on the international day of the girl child is bad? Or does 'wew m8' count as an explanation in your book?
f059a5 No.15583304
>>15583242
Yeah if you wanted to build a vydia PC this would be the year since we’re coming off of a backlog of parts from the mining craze. I’d wait until Black Friday season and check out some physical retailers, I saved like $400 when I bought the parts for my build during Black Friday. Try to find the local but less well know electronics retailers. Because if Best Buy or Amazon is having a sale, EVERYONE is going to know about it. And probably buy it out before you do. I just upgrade parts bit-by-bit now-a-days.
Anyways, for free vydia you’d want something like fit-girl I guess. But, a lot of times it’s better to just follow a guy who posts links to torrents he’s already tried out, like the share thread does.
c3a0a8 No.15583348
>>15583287
>So you'd be just as ok if he put an objectively shit game in the OP?
Sure. Replies would've torn a hole on him, and we'd still have the idea of posting games that stood the test of time in a thread.
>It's literally the same thing with different wording.
Learn what literally actually means.
The point of the thread is what makes the difference. You could've ignored BoF on his thread and posted another game, the thread was not about BoF
>Wouldn't you agree that it has the unexplained premise that a a sale based on the international day of the girl child is bad?
I wouldn't. He just reported something he saw and didn't say anything. Even if he had said it was bad, there's a difference between a missing reasoning that only takes common sense and your thread which misses not a reasoning, but information
You already put much more effort in bitchy replies than you did in making the thread. With that energy, you could've already gone to cuckchan or made a better thread.
7774cc No.15583362
>>15583348
>I wouldn't. He just reported something he saw and didn't say anything. Even if he had said it was bad, there's a difference between a missing reasoning that only takes common sense and your thread which misses not a reasoning, but information
It's common sense that Steam and Valve have a negative effect on the industry in just the same way it's common sense that an international day of the girl sale is shit.
c3a0a8 No.15583390
>>15583362
>It's common sense that Steam and Valve have a negative effect on the industry
That's reasoning based on information that you didn't post. Not common sense. The international girl day thing requires no additional information.
I'm sorry but you're grasping at straws now and its getting pretty desperate. I'm going to bed.
7774cc No.15583394
>>15583390
>That's reasoning based on information that you didn't post. Not common sense
And what do you think common sense is? It's reasoning from knowledge everyone has.
>I'm going to bed.
Run away faggot.
b998b3 No.15583922
I don't even use it to scope out new releases anymore, just go to scurvy sites for that now.
d3ab1f No.15584051
I don't.
The games I had on Steam I've played over and over.
After I finished my backlog I kept going to games like Dota, Tf2 and such.
Eventually I realized that it is better to do nothing at all rather than get livid by playing with retards.
I just pirate now and if I feel like playing I game I had on Steam I pirate it instead.
ec2484 No.15584318
>>15584051
>it is better to do nothing at all rather than get livid
this but with life
2063f0 No.15584636