3a3ec0 No.15570742
3902ea No.15570751
eb31a9 No.15570757
>>15570742
Wrong answer
>>15570751
It's not minecraft you dumb little boy.
e90a6c No.15570760
No number of mods will fix this shitty game.
eb31a9 No.15570764
>>15570760
You just have bad taste faggot.
SERVER IS UP
32.125.712:1124
3902ea No.15570765
>>15570757
>as long as I believe my lie then it's the truth
eb31a9 No.15570769
>>15570765
It's a better game than you will ever play in your entire fucking existence.
e90a6c No.15570802
>>15570764
show me a mod that fixes combat and i'll change my mind
557e84 No.15570884
fd4d2b No.15570887
NO I HATE FUN IT'S STUPID
2f8ac4 No.15570916
>>15570760
It needed at least a good mob mod, which there are none. The game is just devoid of mobs, and if there are any they feel/look/fight like cheap garbage and drop menial pointless stuff instead of useful things like in Moinecrap.
eb31a9 No.15570921
>>15570916
>I need to fight things to entertain me
2f8ac4 No.15570934
>>15570921
You really tried to make a retarded statement like that.
Mobs add heavily to progression and gameplay, there is no reason to do away with them. Even in the most autistic games like Factorio and Dwarf Fortress there are fucking enemies and they're important.
eb31a9 No.15570948
>>15570934
Mobs add nothing to progress. You just want to entertain your ADHD by attacking useless monsters. Meanwhile the purpose of the game is to build.
de26de No.15570954
>>15570764
Is this the same on as last time that had that water bullshit and the faggots from /tech/?
>>15570802
All the gun mods are shit, so no.
2f8ac4 No.15570989
>>15570948
>combat aspect of game removed because who needs that xdddd
>can't make defenses because no enemies
>can't make mob killing farms
>can't have cow, sheep, pig farms or chicken coops because there are no mobs
>items and things that would logically come from creatures (meat, bones, hides, silk, milk) can't be included because no mobs
>nowhere is remotely dangerous or challenging
>because no mobs
i agree, none of this is meaningful at all to any video game
this is why minetest failed
eb31a9 No.15571013
>>15570989
Stop being autistic. Mobs add nothing besides being annoying while building.
ccfa90 No.15571015
>>15570764
>32.125.712:1124
this is not an ip address
000.111.222.333:PORT
you posted
000:111:222:PORT
where is the 333
8512bc No.15571477
>>15571015
Gonna go out on a limb here…
32.125.71.2:1124
bab459 No.15571495
8512bc No.15571522
>>15571015
Also you don't seem to realize that 333 would never be a valid number sequence in an IP address and thus makes for a poor example. The range of a number is 0-255. If you want to use your example, do 00.11.22.33 or 001.002.003.004 or the more sensible w.x.y.z. The only IP addresses that can use a 333 as a value are IPv6 IP addresses. Minecraft doesn't do IPv6, and no one fucking uses it anyway.
Knowing this (and I'm surprised if you don't), you should have assumed that 2 was its own value, and that it wasn't 712. 71.2 because you can't have 712.
94d713 No.15571770
>>15571522
For fuck's sake you autist, he obviously just missed a period, like your sister.
eb31a9 No.15571902
8512bc No.15571924
>>15571770
I know that, you mongoloid. I was explaining to him why he was in err, because he made a big deal about it. As the Japanese would say "are you fucking stupid?"
dbb6a4 No.15571939
As someone who likes Minetest I can say with confidence that even with a hundred mods and an active userbase it barely makes for a meager Minecraft clone.
2262c3 No.15572267
>>15570741
I was ready for fun about four years ago, tell me when Minetest actually achieves this.
ccfa90 No.15575030
i never got into any of these games except for briefly fucking around with minecraft.
why is minetest worse than minecraft? minecraft is java ass aids, minetest is not java; that alone should mean the performance is 100% better. i played minetest for 5 minutes and it looks identical to minecraft.
aa38b6 No.15575041
>>15575030
>why is minetest worse than minecraft? minecraft is java ass aids, minetest is not java; that alone should mean the performance is 100% better.
The Minecraft Bedrock Engine is written in C++ and it's what the mobile and Windows 10 editions are based on
2f8ac4 No.15575075
>>15575030
Because Minetest isn't developed to compete with Minecraft, it's developed as a "modding engine" and the thought process is "mods will fix everything", except they don't as they are dramatically worse and the modding community is a small speck compared to Minecraft's in terms of competence, productivity and collaboration. The game dramatically lacks mobs and combat and any mod regarding those is shit, plus there aren't good modpacks like Minecraft has. The engine seems to perform better, but the only real advantage other than that is infinite Y axis (endless sky, endless caves) and support for fancy custom sloped blocks. Everything else is tangibly worse.
6d2bef No.15575155
I want single blocks with 9999 ores in them, I want automatic mining, furnaces, minecarts and conveyor belts.
I want intelligent AI allies and I want 3D Real-Time Strategy
And I especially want 1 block-sized good looking player characters.
6d2bef No.15575394
>>15575075
Why is our generation so buttfuck lazy and incompetent? You didn't see the Terraria guy whine and abandon all progress on his game and then sell it to some gay company which just wanted to tax evade.
10286f No.15575625
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Honest question, does minetest have a redstone equivalent yet? That's what I really ever played minecraft for, it was fun.
4e4968 No.15575818
>>15575625
minetest has mesecon, which is more akin to the redpower mod, since mesecon cables can be placed on any side of a block
>>15575075
The main problem is minetest's lack of API functionality, minecraft may be shit but a lot of little things that have been added in that makes modding it less of a hassle
with minetest the engine is so completely barebones that to do anything phenomenal would require modifying the engine itself
you're essentially left reinventing the wheel for anything you want to add in, unless you can find a wheel that's as close to round as it'll get that somebody else made
>>15575394
Because the previous generation grew up on better food, were raised on manual labor, lived in tight knit communities and had all the drugs they needed to work all day and still pursue hobbies when they got home.
f9e9c1 No.15575839
>>15575394
minetest a free, open source engine with a simple example game shipped with it. it's not a commercial game, or even a game.
a4b60c No.15576005
>>15571013
>>15570948
Just play creative mode, autismo.
1eca43 No.15576098
>>15575041
well hopefully people on /v/ will move over to win10 soon so we can get a server up and running and we won't have to worry about this shitty minecraft ripoff anymore.
a4b60c No.15576110
>>15576098
>/v/ moving to (((windows 10))).
10286f No.15576866
>>15576098
I would say that's bait but you saged.
4e4968 No.15579041
Here's a question, why hasn't any mod try to tackle volumetric fluid?
I was just thinking about this, there was one or two minecraft mods that attempted it but in a terribly inefficient way, where water slices could potentially be left sliding around on land forever.
I was thinking of how depleting water bodies could work, and I thought if you took some quantity of water from a lake or something, it would do one sweeping calculation on how many water blocks are connected by the horizontal, then subtract a float value from each water block in that layer that determines how 'full' the block appears, eliminating the need to actually create or destroy a water source block in a body of water. I guess it would be tricky for extremely large bodies of water, maybe for every adjacent block of water it would have to decrease the float value by 1/(x blocks)? Then if there is a water block with an air block adjacent to it, it creates a new fluid block and performs the same calculation subtracting another 1/(x blocks). Transporting fluid may be a huge issue, like if a player places down some bucketed fluid, I can already imagine it would create a ridiculous number of fluid blocks adjacent that would either spread paper thin across a flat plane or reach a hole to settle in… Assuming a fluid block placed from a bucket would have a float value of 1 to display a full block height, and the check for air blocks adjacent would create new fluid blocks and update their 'fullness' by subtracting 1/(x blocks) in the group, would it ever really reach a value of 0?
570dc3 No.15582446
Last time I played I got raided by niggers. Fuck you OP.
6f138f No.15583139
>>15579041
The big issue lies in the way the world is generated and loaded. Part of a river can be loaded without the source ever being generated, or half a lake can be loaded while the other half isn't. It's not easy to determine how fluid should behave when it borders complete nothingness that could end up being rock, air, or more fluid.
4e4968 No.15583204
>>15582977
Maybe I'll actually load up minetest again and see if I can implement that. I've already mostly laid out the logic for it, except for cases when fluid blocks encounter full/non-full fluid blocks beneath their layer and what happens when there's air beneath the fluid block.
Might be an issue for checking air blocks below fluids, might have to do something like prevent falling or propagating downwards and create a 'stream' node between fluid and ground, then create a fluid layer below that and decrement the topmost fluid layer's fullness value until the new fluid layer reaches max fill. Shit this is getting complex.
So, I think the entire update check would have to run something like this:
calculate_blocks_in_layer()
for blocks in layer:
if block.x -/+ 1 = air
spawn block
if block.y -/+ 1 = air
spawn block
set block.fullness = 1 / #blocks
done
if block.z - 1 = air
drop_length = calculate_distance_to_ground()
spawn node with height = drop_length
or something like that, maybe the stream node could perform the function of create a pool at the bottom and decrease fluid level from top layer.
>>15583139
That's a valid point, presumably it wouldn't be too much of an issue because if part of a river is depleted, then when the rest is loaded the update check is performed across all loaded blocks and it evens out again.
000000 No.15583636
>>15583139
>It's not easy to determine how fluid should behave when it borders complete nothingness that could end up being rock, air, or more fluid.
After worldgen, you'd consider unloaded blocks as a solid boundary for fluids and physics purposes, with some checks to make things resume proper behaviour when the blocks are loaded.
Ideally you'd want the render distance to be a tad shorter than the loading distance, to keep the transition seamless.
de9d6e No.15587908
>>15571015
>>32.125.712:1124
>this is not an ip address
Of course it's not an IP address.
The duple of IP address and Port number is called socket address.
Then what >>15571522 (checked) says.
4e4968 No.15589297
>>15583204
It took me a while to figure out how to make a fluid block with a non-standard height, and it has some interesting graphical issues because technically it's defined as a 'flowingliquid' in drawtype, which means it renders it as the sloped water that extends from a source.
Single rows of the block do not render at all, a row has to be at least 2 blocks wide to render because of it's "slope".
This was the only way to set how tall the water block is, I could technically set the drawtype to nodebox and adjust the height that way, but that creates more problems, because that changes not just how it's rendered but also the hitbox of said node, which the flowingliquid drawtype does anyway, but I think that it also changes the visibility factor, like if the player is submerged in the fluid blocks they cannot see through them as they're not transparent.
02c31f No.15589334
>>15589311
epic cuckchan meme friendo
02c31f No.15589369
>>15589359
yeah bro… epic meme gamer style
kill those nazi npc pedos…………. gangweed
*dabs*
de7e9d No.15589370
>>15589359
The NPC meme was actually created on 8/pol/? I thought it was some shitty r/the_donald meme, since they're spreading that everywhere.
4e4968 No.15589378
>>15589297
As I was afraid, setting drawtype to nodebox causes the block to loose transparency. Also cannot seem to get the height of the nodebox geometry to go below 50% so it's stuck at being slab height.
Nodebox is defined as {x1, y1, z1, x2, y2, z2} where y2 is vertical height and default value is 0.5, making the value larger makes it go above the 1 block height, lower makes it slab height.
fd4d2b No.15589392
>>15589369
I don't get why it weirds me out that halo 3 is 11 years old now
6b349c No.15589411
>>15589392
>Bioshock is 15 years old
4e4968 No.15589441
>>15589378
Ah, so y1 also determines the height, but inversely to y2. So if y2 is set to 0.0 then it makes a half block, but that's extending from the vertical center, same with y1, so if you reduce y1 to -0.05 it reduces the block size from the center down, leaving a carpet thin block that hovers above the ground.
d48959 No.15589444
>>15589359
>>15589370
It's been around for many, many years, even predating this screencap and others like it >>15589435
The difference this time is that faggots from cuckchan have spread it out to faceberk and twatter and now it's spreading like wildfire. This had led assravaged shills and retards to come here and spam "NPC NPC NPC" (and also "zoomer") constantly, just like they did when the word "cuck" became popular thanks to moot and Anthony Burch.
e4fc6f No.15589452
>>15589444
this, there have been npc threads on /v/ for over a decade
739b9a No.15589532
>>15589435
>>15589444
>>15589452
Grey Wojack is still a 4chan meme, though.
7f64a8 No.15589618
>>15589532
>Grey Wojack is still a 4chan meme, though.
pssssssst, this site was founded as an alternative to 4chan and nearly every person of the first two waves of migration here came from 4chan . Every time you whine about 4chan just realize that the oldest of old fags on this site started on 4chan and came here. You can scream about 4cuck all day but the people, the roots and the layout is all from 4chan.
446893 No.15589833
4e4968 No.15590503
>>15589441
Here we go, got the node box to a carpet thin layer that orients downward. I think it had to do with setting the second paramtype to 'facedir' so that it faces a particular direction when placed.
So the y2 value that makes it thin will need to be set between 0.5 and -0.5, the closer to -0.5 the thinner the layer but I still can't get opacity on it like default water.
Next I'll see about getting the block to spread when placed down, but I'll have to either set a hard limit on how much 1 fluid block can propagate outward until the volume of the layer cannot be spread out any further or make it so the layer dries up after so many ticks. Maybe the former would be a better solution, but then I gotta decide how much fluid is technically stored in a fluid block.
4f2874 No.15591361
>>15589618
<the roots and the layout is all from 4chan
>cuckchan invented imageboards
9413fd No.15591812
How to fix Minecraft:
Allow enemies to break your house during at least half of the nights.
Add allies you can control with an RTS UI.
Add single blocks with 10-5000 ores in them depending how much you've played for. Make mining those ores take time.
Add an automatic mining machine or group of allies which mine for you.
Add conveyor belts.
Add monsters activated when they detect your mining operations.
Receive messages that your allies need help or mining operations have stopped working.
Save your allies from the mobs.
Volcanoes, earthquakes, tornadoes, floods, fires.
Have fun and good luck.
0168c4 No.15592114
>>15591812
Someone has played too much Factorio.
4e4968 No.15594182
>>15590503
Well this went fucking smoothly, tried to add an active block modifier that should run every second that performs a check if air is a neighbor to the fluid block (at least on one side) and then add a new fluid block to that side.
I guess because I forgot to add a conditional that checks whether or not the block at that position is air, it created a bridge off into infinity going through everything else.
Although even after adding a check to see if node at pos = air, it still does the same thing. The timing of the ABM seems pretty fucked too, setting the interval for how often the ABM runs has no noticeable affect when in-game but when reloading the world save it performs the ABM like a billion times at once.
4e4968 No.15594826
>>15594182
Rewrote the ABM function, told it to print out the name of the node at the position it was checking, I think the reason I ran into the problem was that I was reusing 'pos' since that variable is obtained by the abm function, despite setting the local 'pos' variable to pos.x + 1
so I named the local variable side, and set a local name variable of that side position, print out the name, and from there was able make the conditional work and it only replaces the adjacent node if the name matches "air".
What I'll have to do now is figure out how to read/write the metadata of the fluid node so that it has limited spread and setting the capacity based on how many tiles it should spread out to.
4e4968 No.15594980
>>15594826
Got it to spread on all sides, took a while to figure out how to iterate through the nested table of the positions to check. ABM is still too fucking slow though, if I put a function into the node definition to run on_placed it will spread pretty quickly.
It might be quicker to run a voxel manipulation, which updates a wide area at once, but if the fluid block is only going to contain a small volume and spread 3 or so blocks outward then it shouldn't matter.
4e4968 No.15595438
>>15594980
Alright by switching to using the on_construct call I'm able to set the metadata of the block and fill out surrounding air blocks instantly. I was confused at first and thought it was placing fluid blocks somewhere weird but quickly realized that a 3x3 area fills out 9 spaces, so all is well. It's practically the paint bucket tool now.
I'm not sure how I have to handle the fullness value when it fills out an area, Assuming the player places fluid via a bucket, the metadata should be set as that of a full block, unless I want to change the fundamentals of bucket transport which wouldn't be a terrible idea. Otherwise a bucket would hold, let's say 13 units, so a 3x3 area with 1 extra space on each side would fill out.
Getting the fluid block to construct like if a player places a solid block inside the layer and removes it might be a problem.
1188e1 No.15595469
Are you niggers playing or what? 32.125.71.2:1124 doesn't work.
311858 No.15595570
So this was maybe a year or two ago, there was a server that had some problems with a admin that used his power to ruin the starting area, does anyone remember that? Its a long shot but i was hoping to find the person who was hosting the server to see if he still has the map file.
1d1eea No.15595581
Is there any mod for this that adds fun?
4e4968 No.15595706
>>15595581
Depends on your definition of fun.
Decided to try working on a water block that 'drains' downward, so I made a new water block with a quarter height, and a water pillar that spawns when there is nothing but air under it. The pillar block when spawned will check the position below it and spawn another until it reaches a solid surface and creates normal fluid block.
Now there's a couple of ways I can go about this, as it doesn't look very good with the bottom fluid block not being connected to the pillar, best way maybe to define an 'end of stream' pillar with the nodebox being double the length downward, that way it renders through the fluid block, other option would be defining a special case nodebox for the bottom fluid block that renders a second nodebox inside it, I think the other option is better.
I also thought about the pillar block propagating all that distance, I could potentially just change the nodebox to extend all the way down instead of creating node after node until it hits bottom.
I also added an ABM function that removes and fluid block with a fullness value less than 2 so the thinnest layer will just evaporate after a while.
24d056 No.15595815
>>15595706
Jesus fuck that's an ugly bucket.
a4237e No.15595876
>>15594182
>>15594826
>>15594980
>>15595438
>>15595706
>So after hours and hours of work I am starting to get close to finishing this mod that will give Minetest water physics almost nearly half as good as those in Minecraft
This is what autism looks like.
000000 No.15595992
>>15594182
>>15594826
>>15594980
>>15595438
I like this, how's the performance for lange volumes of fluids?
4e4968 No.15596186
>>15595815
Yeah it's from the texture pack.
>>15595876
Water physics are actually similar to minecraft's by default, I'm just trying to implement physics that I think are better, by taking advantage of volumetric capabilities.
To me it's just stupid that for multiple water blocks making up a layer, that each block acts as it's own body instead of making the layer act as the whole body. If I can manage to finish this, then water will behave more like it does in terraria, so if you dig under a pond it will drain out until either the pond is empty or the cavern is flooded.
No more infinite water and flowing slopes.
>>15595992
I'm still working on fluid spread, a big problem is the fluid blocks still being updated individually, and ABM being too slow a method of running functions on blocks, I have to look more into how voxel manipulation is done as that can do large areas at once, as of right now I've only managed to get the block acting as 'source' to have it's metadata update after propagating, but the new blocks are set to the original value of the source block, and cause endless propagation.
9413fd No.15596187
>>15595706
What about when it rains?
>inb4 everyone glares at me.
4e4968 No.15596456
>>15596187
I actually thought that should be a legitimate way to replenish water in the world.
Although, minetest has no native methods for weather, and the mod that exists is literally a cloud over your head that follows you and emits rain particles, which is garbage.
Although if there was a way to trigger a server-wide weather event that didn't involve cloud blocks that follow the player to emit particles, it would be a great way to restore partially full fluid blocks back to maximum capacity.
a4237e No.15598584
>>15596186
The way water works in Minecraft is balanced for gameplay reasons. Trying to move water around with buckets is damn near impossible without infinite sources, and water that only flows so far and out of fixed sources is one of the cornerstones of nearly every type of farm in the game. The Terraria method works perfectly fine… for a 2D game! Trying to make it work in a voxel game is just going to make things difficult for players, especially ones more into building.
You'd be better off applying this to a roguelike game than a Minecraft clone.
dc6455 No.15598835
>>15589297
It triggers my autism to see that liquids is the only "block" in this game that has more shape variety than any other blocks which is just a cube. OCTree Minetest when?
4e4968 No.15600108
>>15598584
Water works the way it does in minecraft because notch had a bad time when implementing flowing blocks.
When he first added water flow, it ended up like this: >>15594980
where it just endlessly flowed until it filled the whole map, so he split it into source and flow blocks and so it would destroy the map when a player placed a water block.
Since water is already a nigh-infinite resource, making it infinite through neighbor checks is redundant, and it's because players are limited to only having buckets that makes moving water difficult, not because water is finite.
Voxel games are precisely the place volumetric data should be used, it's just stupid not to.
b81ee8 No.15608112
>>15595469
This.
I'm fucking bored and wanted to play Minetest today. Also, wtf happened to the last server, that thing was tits! I saw a Moonman temple.
b957e2 No.15608219
Why do mobs play like such ass? I just want the world to feel less empty
4e4968 No.15608829
>>15608219
Mobs or mods? Mobs need an actually decent framework to use.
Mods in general always seem to focus more on decoration than substance, because it's easier to just add in fluff than come up with complex or interesting mechanics that make the gameplay more engaging.
One of things that really needs to change in minetest is the look of menus, opening your inventory or accessing a crafting grid or chest looks more like an interface made for a website than a game.
2cc237 No.15610156
a4237e No.15610783
>>15600108
Either way your plan is to implement a function which adds nothing, but makes things difficult for players. It's stupid. How many times do we have to say this?
VIDEO GAMES SHOULD NOT BE EXACTLY LIKE REALITY.
4e4968 No.15611582
>>15610783
>adds nothing
but it does add something, it adds fluid that behaves like it has volume, as it should
>makes things difficult for players
Sounds like something a casual would say, what's the matter, babby can't handle a challenge?
1 v 1 me in gregtech scrub
856364 No.15611786
>>15595876
Working through an interesting programming challenge and developing a working solution is fun, even if it's on something niche. Especially if you're a programmer by trade, the practice alone is valuable.
>>15610119
I find it interesting that the water expands specifically in one direction, I assume that's the first cardinal point the function searches? I don't know anything about Minetest's api or what the block's data structure looks like, but what if you added a "viscosity" threshhold and counter. Like this:
>At each physics tick, increment counter by [viscosity] (water will increment faster than lava)
>fluid will only spread once counter > threshhold
>counter resets to 0 for that fluid block if it successfully spreads itself. The new fluid block counter starts at 0.
>the rate of increment could also perhaps be increased by the quantity of fluid in the block, so a max volume block will spread faster (a rudimentary way of representing pressure)
Something like this would solve the infinite and immediate spreading your video shows. It would also provide a way for different fluids to spread faster or slower, by just changing the rate of incrementing that counter value.
Just an idea.
a4237e No.15612301
>>15611582
>It makes things as it should be
How many times do we have to say this? Apparently one more time:
VIDEO GAMES SHOULD NOT BE EXACTLY LIKE REALITY.
4e4968 No.15612475
>>15611786
The main problem seems to be with creating the fluid block with a metadata value different than the parent block.
It always creates the new block with the default value, I might need to spawn a different block with no metadata and then update it.
>>15612301
>we
So far it's only you saying anything against it, and I'm clearly not making it exactly like reality because I'm not making a fluid physics simulation.
I still haven't heard any reason why a voxel game shouldn't take advantage of volumetric data, other than "that's too hard!" and "it's too realistic!".
Get bent nerd.
312988 No.15613192
Allies with long & short respawn times when they die.
Mobs which take down/steal your torches and lanterns/glowstones. Torches which burn out.
Spiders which kidnap your allies.
Mobs which steal your tools resources and relocate your chests, furnaces, crafting benches.
Mobs which use your buildings as their homes.
Ghosts which posses everything in your house to use against you.
Crawlers - hit and run enemy.
Flying Witches - they make your soil barren and might enchant your crops against you. (or set it on fire)
1-block tall player character. Non blocky player character.
Chunk-wide vein of ore which can be discovered at the surface.
https://pastebin.com/Ni2Nf5vB
6b349c No.15613258
>>15612328
>a small amount of math did this
It's fucking beautiful
a4237e No.15616166
>>15612475
>So far it's only you saying anything against it
I'm the only one saying anything other that "huh, neat I guess". Nobody else cares; they just see someone autistically doing something completely meaningless and walk away.
>I still haven't heard any reason why a voxel game shouldn't take advantage of volumetric data
Because it ruins the gameplay experience (I already mentioned that it would break many overworld farms to fuck with water physics like this) and adds NOTHING. You have a nice circular argument: "a game should be more like reality than it is because it should be more like reality, therefore I'm doing this because it should be the way I'm doing it". Really, as the one making the claim that it's an improvement, the burden of proof is on you to show what it adds aside from "muh realism". Which you have not done.
You've got a cute tech demo, nothing more. It's impressive from a programming standpoint, but inapplicable to a real game because it causes more problems than the existing system.
4e4968 No.15616487
>>15616166
>Nobody else cares; they just see someone autistically doing something completely meaningless and walk away.
You seem to care an awful lot to keep coming back, and video games don't have any deeper meaning than what the player or developer impose upon it, so what's your point?
>it would break many overworld farms to fuck with water physics like this
I don't see how, unless a fluid layer dries up when it reaches it's lowest possible value. Farms would still check to make sure there's a water 'source' neighboring it.
Also it's a moot point if these physics are moved into a separate subgame.
As far as 'proving' my claim, it's kind of hard to 'prove' it's going to be a better mechanic than what exists, when I don't have it fully implemented, so yes it's a tech demo.
810a09 No.15616543
Fuck minecraft, minetest is better.
a4237e No.15618412
>>15616487
>I don't see how
Many farms rely on the predictability of water flow, especially when it only goes in one direction and for exactly eight blocks, to move around mobs and/or entities. It works specifically because the water DOESN'T flow realistically. Comparing it to Terraria is irrelevant because Terraria doesn't have farms like Minecraft does, so water can just go anywhere and nobody cares; the water is purely decorative, not functional.
If your only goal is to implement a new system as a "subgame" then I fail to see the point of doing it with this. Minetest is a Minecraft clone, where the purpose is to (probably in futility) match the function of Minecraft while lacking its obvious flaws and limitations.
But it remains an irrelevant modding platform because nobody is concerned with making a GAME, just with fucking around with things like this.
1dfcd6 No.15618432
Genuinely, why play Minetest instead of Minecraft? Modded MC like tekkit or FTB has legitimate complexity and depth, so a server could be way more fun. I get that minetest is free, but who doesn't already own minecraft?
4e4968 No.15619458
>>15618412
So because people are used to using water as conveyors for mobs and items, different fluid physics should never be tried?
I like how you tell me that video games should not be exactly like reality and then say voxel games should always follow minecraft's formula, even though minecraft would have had similar physics if Notch followed through on making it a 3d dwarf fortress.
Now that I've stated it's a minetest mod, you're bothered because it would not be cloning minecraft's physics, and call it pointless to offer something minecraft will never have.
>minetest is an irrelevant modding platform because people only make mods for it
Did you forget this was the minetest thread or is microsoft paying you to shitpost?
9ca6c2 No.15620033
efb262 No.15620052
>brown bricks BUT YOU CAN LOOK AT THE CODE
lel freetards
1ca018 No.15620061
>>15620052
>freetards
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1ca018 No.15620087
>>15620052
Hey, my friend. Please answer me, i am still here and waiting for you.
efb262 No.15620089
>>15620061
How's that code of conduct, brother?
1ca018 No.15620107
>>15620089
Great great my friend, i am doing good so how are you doing my friend?
1ca018 No.15620140
>>15620089
Hey, friend. Where are you? Let us chat together, this is fun!
1ca018 No.15620167
>>15620089
Sorry but i am no longer your friend, you are not good friend. I am now friend with Sash amu dabi, we are best new friends now. You need to have better goals in your life because i think you do not know what you want. Have a great day and dreams.
9ca6c2 No.15620328
78d76b No.15622088
>>15610175
I could never get this build to work
a4237e No.15623357
>>15619458
Mother of Christ, are you EVER defensive about your pointless little autistic programming endeavors.
>Did you forget this was the minetest thread
Nobody fucking cares. The entire thing only exists as "it's minecraft but not minecraft!". It's a fucking garbage hipster platform for retards who want to pretend as if objective inferiority is fun so long as they're sticking it to (((them))) along the way. You'd start gulping down actual dog shit if you were told The Man hates dog shit.
The worst part? You actually kinda have some decent programming talent. Your water physics simulation has POTENTIAL, but only if put in a game that won't break by putting it in there.
If you were to apply this to something that isn't a complete fucking waste of time, maybe you could amount to something useful. But no. I get it; you're used to being a useless failure, and so deliberately choose options that will result in that conclusion. Have it your way.
4e4968 No.15624086
>>15623357
Wew lads, looks like I struck a nerve!
>enters thread because he hates the game and calls everyone contrarian retards for using it
>calls project he doesn't like pointless endeavor
>has potential but only if applied to game where it wont break everything (but not minecraft though because that would break mob farms, and not minetest because it's a waste of time)
>anyone working on minetest is a useless failure, unlike me who shitposts in threads calling people useless failures
10 minecraft credits have been deposited in your win10 account, would you like to update now or be forced in 5 minutes from now?