/v/ - Video Games

the battle royal meme is dying, just give it another couple of months until a new gimmick is created and marketed to hell and back

>>15567401

Yeah but whatever it is, it'll be fucking worse won't it?

>>15567394

>or is it somehow going to be replaced with something more cancerous?

You know it in your heart that this is the answer.

>>15567401

More like, give it a few more years.

>>15567424

Gen Z is actually cancer. Millenials didn't make things shit outside of having SJWs.

Just like Halo, Cawadooty, and Mineycrafta, it's a temporary fad that will get replaced by something worse

>>15567394

>letting other people know that you watch anime

how embarrassing

>>15567404

It's inevitably always going to be something terrible, because the playerbase these games target is terrible, and that will never change.

>>15567394

>Guys will Fortnite and PUBG and Overwatch faggots get lost anytime soon or is it somehow going to be replaced with something more cancerous?

They are just another lost generation, let them wallow in their own hell.

>>15567434

9/11 happened while millenials were in school.

>>15567502

How many people in this thread are actually 40+ years old? While I agree with the sentiment, the terminology for 'millenial' refers to anyone who was in their youth at the turn of the millenium and most commonly refers to birth dates in the 80s or 90s so if you're under 38 years old you likely count as a milennial yourself. I'm not assuming that 8ch is all kids but I really doubt that there are that many 50 year olds hanging around shitposting about video games all day on an image board owned by a retarded jew.

Do you know what you call a Battle Royalle game in France?

a Battle Royalle with cheese

>>15567635

SAY WHAT AGAIN MUTHAFUCKA

Online FPS was my favourite genre growing up. Now you can't even find one to play thanks to this shit.

>>15567635

ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER, DO YOU SPEAK IT?

>>15567394

The good news is that every single fad is lasting shorter than the previous one, while bleeding companies dry after the initial release.

Soon, fads won't be profitable anymore, with the added bonus of making some companies go bankrupt.

Make as many normalfags as you can avoid said fads, to accelerate the process. Use any tactic: shaming, diverting attention towards emulation, anything really.

>>15567394

>Battle Royal Pandemic

>Fortnite and PUBG and Overwatch

>Overwatch

So you're just throwing names there for the sake of getting everyone riled up, uh?

I'd rather have dumb threads like this gone first, it's already bad enough that Fortnite exists, we really don't need to be reminded of that here.

>>15567394

>OW

MOBA shooters have already been phased out by Battle Royale, there was always something, FPS, TPS Action Adventure with Stealth Elements, MOBA Shooters, Battle Royale, I think that's the order.

>>15567430

We basically have 3 generations in a row making things shit

>>15567494

This. Whatever comes next will undoubtedly be retarded.

>>15567529

Speak for yourself whipper snapper, I've been alive since world war 2 and I'm still here faggot.

>>15567404

They already have survival and building crap in, not sure. Maybe that horrible time based mobileshit base building crap.

>>15567878

>So you're just throwing names there for the sake of getting everyone riled up, uh?

no, i guess it's to make this thread be more referenced by google algorythm

just think of them as containment games to keep the cancerous players out of good games that this industry has abandoned

People are literally just playing battle royale because that's what was memed to them at the time it started. NPCs will play anything, whether good or terrible, based on this alone. If nobody memes a new trend , jews will do it instead, which is what usually happens. Unfortunately our ability to meme better games tends to rely on the emergence of an indie gem the likes of which is increasingly rare these days.

>>15567529

That is why generationposting is retarded. It's broad and meaningless. I feel like I'm an entirely different age group from people born one year after me, owing to people maturing at different speeds. People born a year before me probably feel the same. For these generations to encompass so many years, but especially millennials which seems to be defined twice as long as the other generations, it's even worse. You can't really relate to these people, unless you're actually a soyboy faggot that thinks millennial = 18-29 year old hipster so nerdy XD manchild. Then I guess you're in good company because there's a lot of you in more than one actual generation. Which is an example of why anyone that actually proudly talks of which generation they are is cancer.

>>15567394

I swear to god I thought that image was from like, 2006 until I saw them talk about the Switch. Holy shit I thought all these people went away?

>>15567448

Halo had good gameplay at least and interesting lore and was sci-fi with a few realistic elements

>>15567470

>being a pussy about your hobbies and interests

>>15569366

Nope. They are the ones that are trying to destroy your hobby and they are very numerous

>>15567401

>the battle royal meme is dying

He said every month for the past 24 months.

>>15571228

>regenerating health

>auto-aim

>good gameplay

>>15567878

Don't you know every multiplayer shooter with any sort of player versus player combat is a battle royale now? Learn the hip new buzzwords and get with the times, grandpa.

>>15571329

health doesnt regenerate. Shields do. Also those two things do not make the entire game.

>>15571582

Halo on the chans is almost ironically hated by most people.

>>15571414

>ASSFAGGOTS

what's that?

inb4 newfag

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>>15572174

no inb4 possible here newfag.

It means MOBA, but people get salty when you point that out.

Though, MOBA is a pile of shit and ASSFAGGOTS is the correct description!

>>15571414

I agree about ASSFAGGOTS, but military shooters have always had their place in the market. It's just that eternal EA/Activision rehashing that made them stick out, but then again, rehashing shit is all AAA devs do, regardless of the game.

>>15572174

>>15572202 Is a low effort reply. ASSFAGGOTS stands for Aeon of Strife Style Fortress Assault Game Going on Two Sides. Aeon of strife is a SC map that formed the lane pushing style of those faggot games. I'm sure the "FAGGOTS" part of it is self explanatory.

>>15567635

I DON'T REMEMBER ASKING YOU A GODDAMN THING

>>15569405

Seems to me like you can't ""bear"" it, anon.

>>15567394

I agree with you, but I don't want to because you're a fucking Lilyfag.

>>15567394

im giving it like 2 years until the new cool and hip thing came

>>15572195

That brings back memories.

I remember the generals around #200-300, very nice people there. Too bad they were worshipping a shit nogame.

>>15567394

Survival shooters? MOBA games that we pretend aren't MOBA games? MOBA Survival shooters?

How the fuck does the gaming industry always manage to dance around these ideas?

>>15572195

Atleast I can say this game taught me how to get a gf.

>>15567394

>no disabled girls battle royale game yet

It's like game companies hate money

>>15572206

>Not really, your health is your health, not your shields

Do you know what de facto means, retard? It means in practice.

>If you receive damage without shield, you lose health

And? It's just an extra health bar, just like metroid energy tanks except it regenerates.

>And that can't be regained without health packs

Not a fucking issue you don't lose your regen health shield.

>The difference it's important faggot. I get it, the shields mechanic spawned jelly vision, but that doesn't make the shield mechanics bad on themselves

Just. Stop. Defending. Halo. Why is this so fucking hard to do? The reason why it's bad is because it affects level, weapon, and enemy design. I mean by your logic bioshock infinite is not bad since that had shields as well.

>>15577852

There is nothing inherently wrong with hp (whatever they called) regen. Prove opposite. Pro tip: you can't.

>>15577852

>It means in practice.

But it isn't retard, be cause they are both different things. Your health is not your shield.

>Except it just regenerates

That's the difference. Your actual health doesn't.

>Not a fucking issue you don't lose your regen health shield.

But you will. That's the point. You could say the same if you don't get hit with classic healthbars.

>The reason why it's bad is because it affects level, weapon, and enemy design

No shit. Halo tried to be different from the norm in FPS back when it came out, and it achieved it. Just because now it spawned cancer doesn't mean it was bad back then, in fact,it was revolutionary back then, shame it turned out like it did, but that doesn't mean it's bad, faggot.

>by your logic bioshock infinite is not bad since that had shields as well

It doesn't work like that. Halo was the original, Bioshock infinite would just be a copy of it, add to all the shitty things like the story and other mechanics and it's just a bad game. The difference is that Halo did it first when no other game did it before. Now that all games do it doesn't mean the original is bad.

Hell, there were dozens of shit Doom clones back in the day. That doesn't make Doom bad, does it, faggot?

>>15567394

I don't really care about this topic but god Lilly is such an ideal angel

I don't mind Battle Royal, it's a nice casual game mode. It is basically deathmatch with more rng and a larger map, which can be nice if played casually. Which brings us back to today's mentality.

Every online game needs to be a competitive game and have its own e-sports. This is why many Battle Royal games are such cancer, people try to both cater to casual players (Because it is legitimately a great casual game mode) and the competitive players. To make the game more casual they'll need to tighten the skill gap, but to have a proper e-sport you need something that creates a skill gap.

>>15577867

Oh that's easy

>enemy design

Every enemy must be a threat to easily "break" your shield and kill you, because otherwise you can just brush it off like it's nothing. So there can't be any enemies that just do chip damage, enemy variety suffers as a result.

>Level design

Since you don't have to worry about health mangament any more since you just regenerate health, there's no need to place secrets or other goodies hidden in the level. Thus you can design the levels like a line, like CoD is notorious for.

>weapon

Well this is because of the two weapon limit than anything else, 9 of 10 times the player will be forced to used the gun that the baddies drop the most, it's typically a machine gun, maybe their favorite gun or most likely a situational gun. So the gunplay suffers as well.

The only time i've ever experienced a regen health mechanic that doesn't do these things is when it only regens your health out the danger zone like a 1/8 or a 1/4 of your health. They typically have different issues like insanely low ammo caps to compensate.

>>15577928

>Your health is not your shield.

If not then why does the shield goes down if i get hit, just like a health bar?

>But you will. That's the point. You could say the same if you don't get hit with classic healthbars.

So you admit the shield is a health bar.

>No shit. Halo tried to be different from the norm in FPS back when it came out, and it achieved it. Just because now it spawned cancer doesn't mean it was bad back then, in fact,it was revolutionary back then, shame it turned out like it did, but that doesn't mean it's bad, faggot.

It was shit then, it was shit now. Stop defending it just because it was your first FPS.

>Halo was the original, Bioshock infinite would just be a copy of it, add to all the shitty things like the story and other mechanics and it's just a bad game

Or, halo was a shitty game, bioshock copied a shitty game, thus it's no surprise it's a shitty game. Garbage in, garbage out.

>Hell, there were dozens of shit Doom clones back in the day. That doesn't make Doom bad, does it, faggot?

Doom is good, and halo is shit, what's so hard to understand?

>>15577975

>So there can't be any enemies that just do chip damage, enemy variety suffers as a result

There can be. Deployed in pack big enough to burn though shild in single engagement.

>there's no need to place secrets or other goodies hidden in the level.

>what is unique gear and resources

>>15577955

>very online game needs to be a competitive game

Heh. /v/ usually whines about opposite. That modern games are "for casuals who can't handle the challenge". You say opposite that modern gaming is too difficult and pressuring.

>>15578025

>There can be. Deployed in pack big enough to burn though shild in single engagement.

Ends up like this in practice:

<Every enemy must be a threat to easily "break" your shield and kill you

So the it still feels same in practice

>what is unique gear and resources

No need to, the game dev doesn't have to worry about that pesky heath bar or ammo balance anymore, since your health regens and all the ammo is from the guys you just killed.

>>15578025

>You say opposite that modern gaming is too difficult and pressuring

I didn't say that.

I said that the battle royale genere is a great candiate for a more casual games. I wouldn't say modern games are difficult but rather give you an illusion of it being difficult by either adding a lot of rng or making victories meaningless.

>>15578072

>battle royale genere is a great candiate for a more casual games.

>or making victories meaningless.

Actually BR has more valuable and difficult victory than even. Literally 1% chance to win. Comparing to usual 50%, often shared with team. For average normalfag single chicken dinner is current game career achievement. I think this is one of the reasons that made BR so popular, it makes heart tingle when victory is close when with old games victory very fast becomes abundant, everyday ordinary and boring.

>>15578055

>So the it still feels same in practice

Fighting one shot dying enemies packs and fighting single tough enemy (with regenerating health hehe) has vastly different strategy and tactics. One enemy you can chip through many engagements another requires decisive 0-100% commitment.

Why do you care?

These games are actually good for the industry.

They are gameplay-centered, not interactive movies, so if devs make more games like these, they will make more games and less "artsy" movies.

>>15578326

>Fighting one shot dying enemies packs and fighting single tough enemy (with regenerating health hehe) has vastly different strategy and tactics. One enemy you can chip through many engagements another requires decisive 0-100% commitment.

There's no such thing as chip damage in a regen shooter, it's just damage. You just hide in a corner until your at full heath, same thing with a strong enemy, except you may use the situational gun or grenade. It's just not fucking fun. Seriously, do honestly think people hate this style of shooters just because it's popular?

>>15578491

Anon, you exist

>>15578491

>There's no such thing as chip damage in a regen shooter, it's just damage.

>what is the pack of weak mobs

Really. Think. Against pack you can do chip damage. Killing 1 of 20 with every peak. Chip engagements. But yes this will not work against one tough enemy if he has regen.

Funny thing with hp packs and no regen like in classic Doom player can and balance makes for player favorable (best risk/reward ratio) to do every engagement via chip damage. 20 imps? Strafe peak and kill one at a time with shotgun. Cyberdemon? Strafe peak and shot one missile at time until hp ends. "Variability lol". Only way to force players decisive engagement is to lock him in the open arena with enemy.

Introduction of regen on teh other hand naturally allows creation of the enemies requiring different approaches in many types of terrain.

>>15581672

Lets see your innovative FPS PvP mechanics.

>>15580918

>Really. Think. Against pack you can do chip damage. Killing 1 of 20 with every peak. Chip engagements. But yes this will not work against one tough enemy if he has regen.

What? My point was chip damage against the player is meaningless if the player has regen. Not if enemies have regen health you retard. Thus all of the enemies attacks and threat level ends up being very similar. The only time i've seen this type of enemy was in RE4, and yes that was terrifying the first play through. Your typical regen shooter doesn't have regen health for enemies in the first place, obviously except multiplayer. Which then it just ends up being a contest of who hit's first.

>Introduction of regen on teh other hand naturally allows creation of the enemies requiring different approaches in many types of terrain.

No it doesn't, it just makes your doom chip damage scenario just ten times slower and worse, since there's your health is the only resource that matters, defacto infinte amount if you just turtle. In doom you can fuck up, in halo you're a retard if you do. And if you meant the enemies regen their health in that scenario again, like I stated before this enemy type is doesn't really exist in regen health shooters either. If you're implying it happened in halo I honestly didn't notice the difference, I probably just used the situational gun or a grenade. Making the player have a non regen health makes the game more engaging for the player vs a small but endless health bar.

>>15581916

FPS PvP where the winner gets to hire a hitman to kill shitposters like you irl free of charge.

>>15567394

Battle Royale is a lot less cancerous tham the walking simulator shit that precceded it. At least it's about trying to win.