/v/ - Video Games

>John Romero promises you to make you his bitch

>It's a 6/10 FPS

He basically was treated as the second coming of Jesus for Doom alone, so the disappointment when he delivered something that was okay-ish at best is no surprise.

>>15564794

Mostly because of the poorly programmed escort missions.

Promised too much.

>>15564794

>>15564881

delivered too little

The companion AI was annoying, other than that it was a great shooter.

>>15564794

>Why was this FPS hated so much?

Valid reasons

>Was it just people upset that it wasn't a quake clone?

No.

>>15564906

>Valid reasons

Not really, it's better than any shooter released the last ten years or so.

>>15564794

didnt this game fuck over Deus Ex and Anachronox's development?

>>15564917

>it's better than any shooter released the last ten years or so

Not exactly a hallmark of something good, given the state of the industry, but in what manner was it considered "better"?

Have you actually played the game or even watched a video? It's a hideous, unfinished mess of a game.

>>15564919

Nope, Romero and Ion storm were the only reason those games got made at all.

>>15565029

>hideous

Looked pretty good to me. Unless you want to shit on Quake for being ugly too.

>>15564794

It was the start of Romero's Ego bigger than his ability to make a damn game. Can't say the same with Carmack, Doom 3 and Rage were damn tech demos, and my God, the original Doom 4 was COD Apocalypse Edition.

>>15565044

>hurr durr i lukd at screenshots. game is gud

God I hate you contrarian little niglets. Here I am pushing 27 and you dumb little cocksuckers want to like old games that crashed and burned harder on release than NuBattlefront 2 because you think it's edgy.

Quake had inspiration. It was going to be a Lovecraftian medieval themed sword and sorcery game. Then the rest of id overruled Romero and turned it into a shooter because the genre really took off. This is what caused Romero to leave id. And what does he do as his first project when he leaves? Makes another shooter, because he was too egotistical and wasn't doing any of this to make good games anymore. On top of that it was the most uninspired not-anime shit ever. The entire game can be summed up as "Hey you remember Shadow Warrior?" "Uh, yeah, kinda." "Now imagine if that was serious instead of comedic and crashed constantly."

>>15565019

Brazil's continued existence is one of the largest tragedies in the history of humanity.

>>15565062

>all that shit

>none of it addresses the way the games look

I said nothing about themes, stability, or quality of the gameplay. I questioned calling Daikatana hideous when it actually looks better than Quake. That doesn't mean it looks as good as it should for the year it came out, but I am not the one who brought up Quake looking better.

>>15565089

Quake looks good because it has inspiration. That is my point. You are implying that Daikatana and Quake have similar graphics because they tend to have a strong single-color theme. They also used the primitive graphics (and Adrian Carmack's artistic talent, no relation to John funnily enough) to their advantage to make the monsters look more Lovecraftian.

>>15565101

>i like to masturbate over the meme that the shallow employment of lovecraftian theme inspiration for quake makes its blocky little color variation graphics good

I get it already. You quackfags can't stop masturbating over how your low poly enemies and environments are actually deep and shit.

>>15565065

I'm southern-brazilian and seeing the nigger horses ruining a little Germanic town is saddening.

I agree with your statement.

>>15565113

*Hordes.

>>15565124

quake has shit-tier designs, and only a creature with nigger-animal-tier intellect could like it

;)

>>15565029

It's the peak 90s game aesthetically, it still looks great because of the art direction.

>>15565107

You need to stop masturbating so much.

>>15565124

I didn't go out of my way to criticize Quake you nigger. I responded to a bogus claim.

>>15565107

>90s faux anime bullshit is more inspired

>I defend a game no one likes and that I haven't played online, for free

Sure, just keep pretending everyone here is pathetic but you.

>>15565124

Lovecraft was an overrated hack of a writer that didn’t even think he was anything good.

>>15565365

Unfortunately that still puts him head and shoulders above anyone who has written a video game plot.

>>15565365

Niggerman

>>15565365

I always liked his Dreamlands stuff.

>>15565295

>dull brown gets pretty old

Here's proof you don't play video games. You promised to not be a faggot, go play fortnite.

>>15564807

So a similar situation when Rage came out by Carmack & ID and the wow factor that would be megatextures that ended up for what would be considered a mediocre game.

>>15565734

Romero actually promised a good game. Carmack is a technical director who doesn't really give a shit about video games. Having said that, megatextures were also underwhelming from a technical perspective but as a programmer I respect that he tried something different.

Hyped to hell and shitty AI that gets itself killed forcing you to reset the mission

It also had a shitty Gameboy port

>>15565132

masterfully done, my friend :)

First Sonic 06 and now Daikatana. Add in the faggots praising shitty consoles all over the board and something is really fishy.

>>15564886

You finish my sentences now?

I'm married and straight, sorry.

Killed Looking Glass Studios.

Quake and Doom were trash. Prove me wrong.

>>15565725

>Here's proof

Many things I fondly remember and consider distinct were traits of Unreal and Duke Nukem, not Quake. Quake has and always will be just a big brown dark castle with guns to me.

Reminder the GBC Daikatana is actually good. Not amazing, but it is actually genuinely fun.

>>15566601

Actually, all video games are trash.

Why bother with them?

There's an early part of the game that requires you to duck. The game doesn't tell you how to duck and it's a 2 key combination.

Why do you think it was panned?

>>15566677

You know I was playing AvP 2000 the other day and it never told me how to throw flares or crouch either. So I checked the key configuration and sure enough I figured it out. Does Daikatana not have key configuration or is it that you are clueless that games from the 90s didn't hold your hand with tutorials on using basic functions?

>>15566690

Both of which require a single button press you can figure out by pushing every button on the keyboard or looking in the config menu.

Stalker had a similar issue at the end of SOC where you needed to go prone but it's never used before that point. The difference being you can config it in the menu

.

You're a contrition little faggot trying to look smart by being edgy but you even fail at that because I can make a better argument than you can and even then it's no where near the same.

>>15566700

You never answered my question. Does Daikatana have key configuration or not?

>>15566710

I see you're too retarded to read the post you're replying to. It explains a lot.

>>15565062

rust-anon?

>>15566717

Would you like to point out where in your post you said whether or not Daikatana had a key configuration menu?

>>15566599

Looking Glass died because of its own shitty management.

>>15565062

>hurr im a 90s kid, old as time itself

>>15565062

Wow, you made it all the way to 27. What an oldfag you are!

>>15565423

That actually is a pretty good name for a cat…

>>15565057

>Doom 3 and Rage were damn tech demos

Rage was shit, but Doom 3 is a solid Action Horror title.

>>15567419

>>15574195

Forgive me for being frustrated with stupid niggers such as yourselves for shilling for a shitty game made by an egotiatical pseudo Goth faggot just because it's contrarian.

Seriously, you dumbasses don't have a leg to stand on. You might as well post Marx quotes "ironically" at that point.

>>15574606

Doom 3 was a bad Half-Life clone with schlock horror stapled on. It was about as solid as a hard-packed shit.

>>15565039

Ion Storm? I remember them, they took our eloved Thief series and made the consolized abomination that was Deadly Shadows. What an incompetent little group of retards.

>>15574625

>Doom 3 was a bad Half-Life clone

<with better gunplay

<with better enemy design

<with better level design

<with a more interesting story

<with no lengthy first person cutscene sections

I guess, but at minimum it still shits all over HL2.

>>15565734

>wow factor that would be megatextures

Virtual textures and virtual geometry are the current state of the art, and will be for the next 10 years. Regardless of what nJewdia tells you or sells you.

I played it with a group who were convinced it was a fantastic arena shooter in multiplayer. It wasn't. It's just mediocre.

There's no way the development team didn't know this and they should have dumped more resources into Anachronox and Deus Ex.

>>15574706

Nyidia would have worked better.

>>15574697

<with better gunplay

>horrendous shotgun with short range

>superfluous machinegun when they already have the satisfying chaingun

>plasma rifle feels like shit compared to classic doom

Just about the only things that won out were the chaingun, rocket launcher and throwable grenades.

<with better enemy design

Nah, I always thought the Doom 3 aesthetics for the enemies were worse. Doom 64 probably has the best enemy designs. Also the Cacodemons are sad and pathetic instead of huge and sinister.

<with better level design

Corridors deluxe and monster closets abound. My favorite. Oh and what's that? Ah yes, the monster closets are extremely annoying because Doomguy the third has clubfoot unlike his nimble ancestor. Wonderful.

<with a more interesting story

You mean audio log and email reading cancer? You're one of those guys that likes that trash?

<with no lengthy first person cutscene sections

Half-Life didn't have any past the first section which exists purely to build tension

>Half-Life 2

No one brought up that piece of trash.

>>15575863

there is nothing wrong with having a shotgun meant for close range combat. hl2 is still shit

>>15565365

>cyclopean

>cyclopean

>decadent

>decadent

>you think that's bad???

Mountains of Madness was kind of an awkward read tee bee ache

>>15574625

And Half-Life is a Doom clone with aliens instead of demons.

>>15574697

>being this contrarian

>>15577200

>liking doom 3 is contrarian

Yikes.

>>15564794

People couldn't see past their anger at it being below the overhyped expectations. It's a solid game in every respect but the friendly AI and would be remembered as a flawed gew nowadays if not for the marketing.

>>15565062

>pushing 27

>can't even understand the correct use of the word edgy

Sure you are.

>>15566677

>not reading the manual to learn the controls before you start

Games were better before they had tutorials for the faggots who were too lazy to read. Kept the normalniggers out and made the games much better to replay.

>>15566660

Came here to post this. Definitely worth downloading.

>>15565763

>Spoiler text

That version has higher review scores than the other versions.

>>15566660

>Metal Gear: Ghost Babel

>Harry Potter: Chamber of Secrets

The GBC did have a bunch of surprisingly good games from big franchises

>>15574675

Deadly Shadows was a good end to the series and I'd argue it was pretty much as good as The Dark Mod. It's underrated. Compare and contrast with the rape by the French-Canadian corporate marxists down the line. Sure it used a shitty engine and that made the levels very limited but it was better than Invisible War and it actually felt like a Theif game. I'm glad it got made.

>>15566621

You never played any of those games, did you?

Because it was the narrative the journalists in gaming mags wrote at the time and you all gobbled it up like retards because you didn't know any better.

If i were to speculate it was a hit-job to centralise the gaming market, as Romero and his studio was about to break new grounds of the gaming market. Instead we got the same system as Hollywood has nowadays, piss-poor indies and mega-rich studios who basically decides which games are going to be made.

>>15564794

>>15564794

>delayed several times

>Romero kept promising the world

>mediocre shooter at best

>boring gunplay

>story that didn't prove Carmack wrong

>incredibly stupid ai teammates that you have to protect

>>15565062

Welcome to /v/. All years all locations. And faggots have the audacity to hide behind /v/ isnt the same nigger posting bullshit.

>>15564794

Because nobody actually played it they just accepted what (((journalists))) told them.

>>15582787

>Welcome to /v/. All years all locations. And faggots have the audacity to hide behind /v/ isnt the same nigger posting bullshit.

Leave then.

>>15564917

>it's better than any shooter released the last ten years or so.

Don't try so hard buddy

>>15564917

>since 2008

No.

>>15565757

>doesn't really give a shit about video games

source?

>>15582222

I don't know what you had but I only had access to bootleg CDs my friend and brother copied from their CDs for years. Duke Nukem was the exception it was the only one where we actually had the full game. Quake and Unreal didn't become available for me until the old PC I was using was replaced because it was never a PC I owned. Although my copy of Quake was shareware burned to disc.

And you know what? I just don't like the visuals of Quake not then and not now. Duke Nukem 3D? Yes. Unreal? Yes. Diablo? Yes, even if that sounds hypocritical of me. Starcraft? Only RTS I've played but I liked that kind of thing so I tolerated it. Warcraft III? So-so, I always felt the game was kinda slow.

>>15596063

If it makes you feel better I don't really like Quake's visuals much either. Warcraft 3's I love just because of all the custom map fuckery that goes on and how vibrant the colors are.

John Romero became everyone's bitch.

and sucked it down

>>15564794

Because Romero hyped it to the moon and back while treating his job like he was a playboy rather than a fuckin programmer. So when the game was mediocre at best, pretty subpar shit at worst, it backfired HARD.

>>15564794

NPCs are still repeating decades old criticism of a game they've never played.

>>15565295

>only kids who want to play "mature" games are really into that stuff

Sounds like projection to me, people tend to assume things like this if they once were the kind of kid they talk about. I played quake while mostly playing games for kids, watching cartoons for kids, and fapping to drawings of 9000+ year old kids. Even when I was a kid I never really cared for "mature" shit. And I never thought edgy equated maturity, only quality. If I wanted to look older, I probably would have pretended to like Shakespeare or something.

>>15565365

>overrated

Very true.

>hack

His writing isn't very good on a technical level but he had interesting ideas, which is what keeps people reading. He's overrated, sure, but not a hack.

>>15603765

Romero was always a hack.

>>15564807

Still better than Doom 2