0a2dd7 No.15545986
>Loading times back to RE standard not the 90 second plus bullshit of some of its predecessors room transitions
>Instead of just 'uh fuck, whats in a city' campaigns like the first actively expands on Raccoon City with a zoo, subway system and a secluded private hopsital in the arklay mountains where a contained T virus outbreak has been locked up and mutating for years
>Can pick up healing items when knocked down, dont need to rely on retarded bots or asshole players who would leave you to crawl
>Can shift between targets and quickturn like RE3
>YOU CAN MOVE AND FUCKING SHOOTER LIKE A TACTICOOL OPERATOR MOTHERFUCKER
>Same soundtrack, higher quality
>Can import everything from the first game
>New unlock system where playing earns points that you can use to buy skins or even new characters with their own abilities to play as, would later be used by Capcom in Lost Planet 2 and never again with the rise of freemium RMT's
I went in expecting jank and got a sequel so much better it almost makes the original redundant. For fuck sake it even shows what happens when the T virus gets into a zoo full of predators and that is something zombie media rarely ever touches on. It's a shame online is dead as i imagine a RE game where you can move and shoot, work as a team and has traditional maps, tones and setting would be far more popular today than it was at release.
What sequels do you like that are unquestionably better rather than the more common 'diluted for wider market appeal' trashfire sequels?
cdc019 No.15546066
>2 is better burnout 1 because driving slowly around the same track four times is retarded
>3 is better than 2 due to more cars, more races, more variety, more music in races
revenge is subjective to most people as they might not like look of the game's brown and bloom and paradise is NOT FUN
4025b4 No.15546432
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Mostly every Yakuza game outside 6 improved on everything except the story after 2 goes to total shit. Better combat, better music, better substories, etc.
099b1a No.15546501
>healers can actually gain experience without having to dodge everything
>can see how far enmeies can move when selecting them
>magic and magic resistance are fixed per character
>even includes the first game, minus the shitty gimmick chapters, as a bonus
41e171 No.15546509
>>15546501
Can you really consider it a bonus? I think you have to beat the abridged first game anyway.
099b1a No.15546518
>>15546501
Meant aren't fixed per character. Also unit quality is less wonky and more predictable.
>>15546509
This is about games objectively better than their predecessor. Including all the content of the first game does help to achieve that.
099b1a No.15546522
Oh, Unreal Tournament 2004. Even Epic considered it so.
f07ff9 No.15546548
This thread is almost guaranteed to be shit
a813ad No.15546602
f4f797 No.15546608
Is there anyone who would disagree?
c6f587 No.15546615
>>15546608
>pic file already exists in the thread
Well damn. That's never happened to me before. I was going to post that same pic and suggest Gold/Silver too. Glad I'm not the only one who thinks this. 2 regions, 16 badges, Red as the final boss, etc.
e442ef No.15546621
>>15545986
God, I miss Outbreak. I miss it so fucking much that even if they just rereleased the literal exact same game that was on the PS2 and hosted some servers I'd (((buy))) it again.
099ff5 No.15546686
Never played Time/Darkness, but Explorers of Sky is a huge improvement from Rescue Team.
>recruited Pokemon don't need a specific friend area
>recruits can also be sent back immediately upon recruit if party is full
>this guarantees recruit, previous games wouldn't even let you recruit without an open party slot
>longer post-game
>optional side stories for those who care about the plot/characters
>>15546608
>>15546615
Kanto is overrated considering how barren it is with some features missing, (Safari Zone, Cerulean Cave, etc) but the games overall are still a great upgrade from Red/Blue.
16f971 No.15546718
713046 No.15546732
7ddef8 No.15546759
>>15545986
I want to say Ace Attorney Investigations 2, really amazing game
>>15546686
Time and Darkness is basically just Sky but some Pokémon aren't in the game depending on the version, less facilities/shops, a little less post game, and no side stories.
a3fc6e No.15546760
Outbreak was amazing, 2 was perfect.
All these zoomers bitch about tank controls and dont realize it can be done.
It should be a federal crime they shut down the servers. If ever a day they make a pc port would be the day I stop buying anything else
f1d44e No.15546765
>>15546759
>Ace Attorney Investigations 2
Better than the first spinoff or better than the mainline series?
f1d44e No.15546766
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>>15545986
Getting the obvious out of the way. I can't think of a game that is more perfect than this one.
7ddef8 No.15546795
>>15546765
I personally say both, but objectively better than the first for sure. Every case is connected in a crazy web that makes the international smuggling ring stuff seem banal by comparison.
7ddef8 No.15546796
>>15546795
*the first spin-off
6c240f No.15546815
>>15546759
>"4.9 Overall, Bad (out of 10, not an average)"
>"not an average"
If it's not an average, where are they pulling the number from? Their ass, their feels?
>>15546760
>zoomers
>>>/out/
348832 No.15546816
>>15545986
The extreme loading times in outbreak are because you didn't install the game to the HDD, otherwise it loads even faster than outbreak 2, takes like 5 seconds iirc, go look up a speedrun.
>he didn't have a FAT ps2
f1d44e No.15546867
>>15546795
>>15546796
Good thing I'm learning Japanese then. I'm just finishing up with Trials and Tribulations right now and holy FUCK did it take a 180.
bc6015 No.15546874
>>15546066
I still can't believe a fucking timeless treasure like Burnout 3 came from such shit boring games.
effd79 No.15546942
>>15545986
I wish the game sold better. It was just too ahead of it's time.
>We'll never have all of the cut scenarios
b8855e No.15547102
>>15546066
>paradise is NOT FUN
I agree. I can't believe how popular that piece of shit is.
>B3 still isn't perfectly emulatable
>PC re-release never ever because you betcha they'd never want to get those song licenses again
Oh well, at least it'll some day run perfectly via emulation.
>>15546686
Time/Darkness are literally just worse versions of Sky.
>>15546766
These days, I'd say Splinter Cell is pretty underrated. It wasn't niche at all when it came out but just like DMC3/4, no real games/ shit games only made it niche with the passage of time.
>>15546874
>best versions of pikmin are on Wii
Why. I suppose you could get a WiiU and get all three games since you can use the WiiMote on all three then.
1cf7f0 No.15547129
>>15546867
There's a fan translation for Investigations 2. The one you need nip for is the sherlock holmes ones.
bc6015 No.15547142
>>15547102
Just fucking get it off Amazon. The most expensive is less than $50. Hell, it might even still be in some old sports game basket somewhere.
0396a9 No.15547339
>>15547123
My nigger.
> No more secret doors that require burning/bombing/fluting without any indication
> Better, less cryptic, translation
> Townspeople tell you everything you need to know
> Weak faggots still think the game is unbeatable without a guide because they can't talk to villagers and get the info needed
> Rewards exploration
> Classic "fight evil self" final battle thematically consistent with earning the Triforce of Courage (i.e. literally overcoming yourself)
> that dungeon music
cf6d9e No.15547363
>spindash added
>better level design
>better music
>more of a plot
I'd say 3 improves on 2 as well.
eea291 No.15547456
Simply the best. Neversoft continued to raise the bar until THUG1, (Perhaps THAW by extension) but THPS2 is a still a really tight package.
0a2dd7 No.15547468
>>15546816
>if you buy an expensive peripheral load times are okay
0a2dd7 No.15547473
>>15547456
THP2 is the best videogame ever made. This is a fact, how else do you know what its like when worlds colllllliiiiidddee?
1f8377 No.15547476
>>15547468
you could just get a ps2 sd card adapter or if you a slim the ethernet to hdd adapter
6c240f No.15547501
>>15547468
Network adapter is like $5 and a 250gb IDE is like $20, at least from what I remember of when i got mine. Still an additional expenditure but not by that much, especially if it's also saving you money on having to actually buy games. Though, I'm speaking of having bought them a year or two back, not during sixth gen and when actual servers were up.
73e285 No.15547513
>>15545986
Tomorrow's bot thread:
>first game beats all sequels
>prequel better than sequels
>demo better than game
>-element- -comparative- -element
0a2dd7 No.15547518
>>15547501
Yeah i'm talking about at the time, especially the PAL version which was far worse than the NTSC version for some reason. Having to pay 70+ for better load times when the sequel just naturally had far, far better load times is a horeshit concept and even today the principle of buying any peripheral no matter the cost is not preferable to a sequel where it just loads for 5-10 seconds instead of a fucking minute and a half.
9db4e0 No.15551932
>>15546608
They are obviously huge improvements but some things R/B/Y does better. For example Chikorita is just total shit - losing to all the gym leaders - while Bulbasaur is balanced. Better TMs are available in R/B/Y. Legendaries are not so foreshadowed - just birds stuck in some caves / buildings, 2/3 of which you don't even have to visit.
76692c No.15551978
>>15547123
> Adding sidescrolling in a series that doesn't need it.
Better, not worse.
89fb87 No.15552006
Zone of the Enders: The Second Runner
76692c No.15552016
>>15547363
> Worse art direcrion.
> Only 2 acts per level.
> Gimmicky special stage
> Worse soundtrack with infamous ear rape such as Hill Top Zone and Oil Ocean Zone and narely passable tracks like Metropolis Zone.
> Yuji Naka's gay Dragonball donutsteel fancharacter, SSJ Sonic.
> Dumbed down spindash mechanic for plebs who don't know how to spin while running.
> Tails
Sonic 2 was a mistake.
bc6015 No.15552088
>>15552016
I don't even like Sonic 2.
250981 No.15555364
>>15552016
>tails
>bad
take a look at this pleb
b22d83 No.15555590
>smarter enemies
>sub-weapons worth a damn
>more level variety
>better combat
>protag isn't a whiny kid
fb55e2 No.15555694
>>15555411
I still think the first AOE had more charm though probably just a personal preference due to the era it was set in and musics.
1cf7f0 No.15555707
>>15547456
It's the only one I've played, but I did play the shit out of it back in the day.
b22d83 No.15557883
>>15552016
> Worse art direcrion.
Subjective, I find Emerald Hill to look much better than Green Hill.
> Only 2 acts per level.
And more zones in total, which means better level variety. It also has more acts in total, so it has more content than Sonic 1.
> Gimmicky special stage
Sonic 1's was gimmicky, too, and Sonic 2's feels a lot more in control. Plus, they way you enter special stages in 2 is much more fair.
> Worse soundtrack with infamous ear rape such as Hill Top Zone and Oil Ocean Zone and narely passable tracks like Metropolis Zone.
Neither of those are "infamous", and Oil Ocean is generally liked. Mystic Cave is one of the best songs in the entire franchise, and Chemical Plant is also incredibly popular. Sky Chase's theme is incredible, as well.
> Yuji Naka's gay Dragonball donutsteel fancharacter, SSJ Sonic.
At least it's a decent reward for bothering to get all the emeralds, unlike Sonic 1's "oh look, there's some flowers now".
> Dumbed down spindash mechanic for plebs who don't know how to spin while running.
Because having to walk several meters to the left just to build up speed to get up a slope or loop, you didn't quite get the first time, adds to the game in any way.
> Tails
Gave us a second playable character, multiplayer, and one of the best games on the Game Gear.
7c4cf0 No.15557895
>>15555590
He is a nigger though.
ed06c0 No.15557910
>>15552016
>Yuji Naka's gay Dragonball donutsteel fancharacter, SSJ Sonic.
Singlehandedly the best part of the Sonic series, and Sonic 3 & K takes it up another notch with Hyper. It makes the game so fun every time I play it even 20 years later because I just like to fly through the levels in hyper form with all the characters and try to sniff out hidden areas I missed over the last 20 years. Basically, you're complaining that the game is fun.
>Tails
You mean the character that turned half of /v/ into closet furries?
fb1dd3 No.15558231
>>15555590
>Out of intense curiosity and boredom I shelled out for the Mars edition
>60 fps no slow down, no matter how visually chaotic things get.
Perfect. Thank you!
>The game fucking revels in it visual updates making Orbital frames have natural reflections along with light sources looking fantastic
This is great!
>Ability to auto-skip tutorials while still having text shown to indicate how to interact with things
YES
>Optional side grade control scheme that makes the dialogue system not work (A dialogue system which I didn't even know was in the game until this told me but the game doesn't respond when I push the buttons to for a positive or negative response??)
wait what
>While character portraits for in-game in mission cutscenes are scaled up properly, the original animated cut scenes are unfathomably upscaled from 420p making them look pretty bad
Why
829e86 No.15558267
>>15558211
>Clear sky
It even has a shittier mod selection, what the fuck?
643199 No.15558329
>>15558211
Fable 3 was absolute shit.
40f94e No.15558332
>>15558329
Says something about the series, huh.
7abc5c No.15558360
>>15558231
did they fix the multiplayer duel mode in this version so that you can play against other players on psn instead of the shitty same screen pvp with a fixed camera that forces one player to play with the camera far away and controls flipped?
i have always hated that and was mad that the hd edition didn't change it
58e46c No.15558393
>>15558280
>UT3
Nuclear take detected
52f7f6 No.15558394
>>15545986
Puyo Puyo Tsu
>adds offsetting
>adds rotation for pieces between 2 filled columns
>expanded story mode with more opponents
>lets you customize every aspect of battles in VS (nuisance puyo rate, margin time, minimum chain, number of puyo to clear, etc.)
>fun gimmicks to add variety and keep things fresh (hard puyo, point puyo, etc.)
further improvements (depenings on version):
>rally (marathon) mode with even more stages and additional dialogue
>even better voice acting (Saturn, PS1)
>has a myriad of demo chains for learning to play
>lets you replace human players with any AI
>4-player modes
ec3c4f No.15558422
>>15547057
shit b8
>>15558232
>shitablo 3
>>15558280
>Shitfield 3
>UT4
>>15558309
>FEAR 2
>Donte May Cry
At least you mixed your b8 with some legit good sequels.
3ae2f2 No.15558426
>>15545986
Assassin's Creed 2 even had the decency to include a subtitles option
>>15558309
I know you're just baiting with everything else, but Team Fortress 2 was actually the better game.
ec3c4f No.15558427
>>15555364
To be fair, Tails' laggy A.I. ruins the special stages. At least you can deselect him.
1659a1 No.15558558
my roommate has been struggling with Resident Evil gamecube version. couldn't get past the boulder, but as of two days ago, got past it and is in a much better mood
VIDYASERBIZ
5a56e0 No.15558751
>>15558708
I've tried to play MP2 and 3 many times but I've never finished them. For some reason I always lose interest halfway through the games and yet I've beat MP1 at least 3 times. I know they're good games though (MP2 has some good music) but for some reason I still prefer MP1.
ff18cb No.15558769
>>15558708
>Fight me niggers.
No you retard we all know its the best one. Poor quality bait. Kill yourself.
b22d83 No.15558790
>>15558708
It's commendable for being more original than the first, but it's also got greater flaws than its predecessor. If hunting Chozo artifacts wasn't tedious enough for you, dark temple keys have you covered. The map design is also much more "generic", with a central hub area surrounded by the three main areas of the game. Because of that map design, a lot of items you need end up being far back, only for you to immediately return to where you needed them, once you get them. Not to mention, the hub area is a desert canyon and the first main area is also a desert canyon. Agon Wastes just looks so boring, in general. The dark beam is also just a reskinned ice beam.