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>>15535157

>a game where boss fights are already just trial and error

git gud

>>15535157

>implying it was ever 10/10 worthy

Already a thread >>15499258

Also this >>15535171

>>15535170

Poor game design is not difficulty.

I found the grind pretty natural. You rarely lost blood points because you get a second chance to reclaim them unlike in Dying Light.

>>15535157

If you ever ran out of blood vials in bloodborne you are an absolute shitter. There was only one difficult boss and it was in the DLC. Even if you are somehow shit enough to run out you can easily sell off your unused items to buy more. You must have some fundamental misunderstanding of the games mechanics if you need to grind them.

not very original but having a long, boring unskippable intro really pisses me off

too many cutscenes as well

>>15535157

>Artificially adding a ton of grind between boss attempts

Brainlet detected.

>>15535171

(You)

>>15535192

You're supposed to teleport to the Hunters Dream and store most, if not all blood vials everytime you find a new lamp. If you have blood vials in your storage, they automatically refill your inventory whenever you die. It's an important gameplay mechanic which punishes retards and shitty players.

gittu gutto

>>15535198

I ran out of vials on occasion but that was mostly an intentional consequence of my build. I had to cast from HP a lot.

>>15535192

you being shit is not poor game design

>>15535222

tbh i could never get into bloodborne, it's a really fun game mechanics wise i just dislike the gothic aesthetic.

don't really enjoy LARPing as van helsing and the dark fantasy shit in DaS series appeals to me a lot more despite the mechanics not being as fun or speedy.

>tfw no dark fantasy styled game that lets me dash about like a madman going postal

closest thing is guts builds in DaS3

also GET

>>15535559

because big swords make my willy tingle

>>15535559

I'm still baffled to this day why they nerfed poise out of existence. Was a slower, defense-oriented playstyle such heresy to them?

>>15535566

poise should work but if i timed everything right hyperarmor would kick in and i could fuck on people with UGS builds.

I had more fun with DaS3 than I did with the original and the B-Team spin-off - poise getting effectively removed didn't bother me too much.

Your opinions are stupid.

Fuck off.

>>15535198

>Game lets you buy more, which needs money

>Game lets you acquire money by defeating enemies

>Somehow defeating enemies to acquire money, in order to purchase an item, is a "fundamental misunderstanding of game mechanics"

????

>>15537082

>Bloodborne

>money

Found the faggot who didn't play the game.

You never really had to grind unless you were shit at the game. So I guess you could complain about how the game punished poor players and rewarded good players, to which I would say you're a left wing parasite who needs to git gud.

>>15537451

By this I mean enemies dropped more than enough unless you got your ass beat by every single faggot you met, because most would drop 1-4 pretty regularly. And even if you had to buy some because you were stuck on a boss, you usually had enough blood dew or whatever (the consumable items that gave you blood echoes) to buy plenty.

sage for doublepost

>>15537269

>Hurr just because you acquire a currency and spend it, you have to call it by its specific name. Ree! Ree!

Fuck off.

>>15535157

The only time I ever had to grind was in NG+ in the DLC since I never actually levelled up my HP before then.

The inability to sit at lamps and/or warp from them is a worse design choice I think. If you just want to reset the area you have to sit through two fucking long loading screens. And grinding you want to do would be made so much better just changing that alone.

>>15535171

It's not. With a few changes and some better optimization it could be a solid 8 or 8.5 though.

>real time action game

>hardlocked to 30 fps

>anything higher than 3/10

>>15535562

Fair point.

>>15540733

>save only 50 cents with EA Access

How much DLC would you even need to get for that to be a saving?

>>15540733

Grind existed before microtransactions though. Cod 4 had it.

>>15535585

Same. I personally use nothing but Vordt's Great Hammer and win constantly by tanking.

I feel like the DS3 playerbase is special ed compared to how DS1 players were. Very, very few people can actually fight in 3.

>>15535171

This. BB is a fucking joke of a game.

>>15553226

DaS3 pvp was the most fun I had in the series. There's something special about vaporizing people with counterhit profaned gs r2s

>>15553226

The 3 playbase is mostly children attracted by the super-hardcore meme.

Bloodborne for PC when?

>>15564040

Fuck off

>>15564047

I don't know why but to me that looks so much like a vidya animation.

>>15535542

you being poor is not shit game design

>>15535157

Have you just started playing the game? You should have plenty of vials once you're past the first couple of bosses.

>>15535222

>too many cutscenes as well

It barely has any cutscenes at all.

>>15564106

But it has cutscenes, right?

>>15564143

Most of them are just boss intros.

>>15535559

> why would you use greatswords?

other then the profaned, you don't.

>>15535157

they were better than estus. since you didnt need to go back to a bonfire to keep progressing. it also reduces the total of lamps in the game. unironically the best heal method outside of nioh's medicine

hurr durr guys im retarded!

thanks we already knew tho

just don't get hit dumbass

>>15564439

>Taking screenshots with HUD on

Blood borne was a shit game. It bait and switched on the theme so you didn't even get cool gothic werewolf shit.

The gameplay is awful. Too fast with too little controls. If it wants to do fast hard hitting combat it has to have a control system designed for it. It shouldn't have light attack, heavy attack and dodge from a ps3 game half it's speed.

It Bloodborne wasn't made by From it would be in the bargain bin along with every shitty Ps2 action platformer of the same style. It's just Dark souls kiddies who worship it.

>>15535157

you had to farm… blood vials? really?

the game lets you hold a surplus of 100 blood vials, so if your inventory cant hold more, which should be common, it goes into a surplus that refills you when you spawn.

and tbh, if you are healing that often, it probably wouldnt hurt you to have you back tracking and kill enemies for some XP and practice.

>>15564463

>i dont like bloodborne because its has a lovecraft/berzerk theme and i wanted homosexual werewolves in london. the enemies were too fast for me and my slow reflexes.

just stick to playing dark souls with a tank build, kiddo.

If you're having trouble with blood vials you're getting hit too much and/or not utilizing the Regain system enough. Play more aggressively and you'll understand why they're limited items.

In short: git gud.

>>15564439

Don't freak out but there's someone behind you in that picture

>>15564447

How do you do that?

The problem with BB like someone said before is that its just Darksouls with a SLIGHTLY different skin. And the problem becomes, if you've played any of the souls games then this game is just glorified DLC.

If you blur your eyes its identical to demons souls. Its an action game locked to 30fps. The hitboxes slightly improved after 5 games, but they removed plenty of enjoyed features along the way.

I liked playing darksouls when it was fresh to me. But when i realized every single boss was going to be the same idea it started to get old. NIOH is actually what a DarkSouls sequel should feel like. Whole new mechanics.

But darksouls be like,

"And in this game there's a brand new feature called blood points! Nothing like the soul points of the last game…"

>>15535157

>Grinding for blood vials

How did you manage to run out of vials? There are a shit ton of them scattered throughout every level and most enemies in the game drop from 2 to 4

>game where boss fights are already just trial and error

Most of the enemy attacks are heavily telegraphed and can be easily parried, what the fuck are you doing OP?

Looks like someone doesn't understand that you have to play this game aggressively

>>15564872

i liked bloodborne because it was a return to form after ds2 was a huge piece of shit.

bloodborne had memorable parts, crazy story, and an interesting meta. it had a similar quality to the original darksouls, but more focused. they basically stripped away some build variety and forced you into a "fast" build.

they removed the shield for the most part and they limited the amount of weapons, but the moveset and complexity of each weapon was expanded.

the only builds you were allowed were basically geared towards different weapons.

the blood recovery system of health was a small feature that could easily be ignored. it was just part of the game's direction. the director was basically saying "i dont want you to just tank with a shield, then say the game is boring. i want you to dodge, parry, and fight." and the entire game is built around this.

they make you a more agile fighter, but also make the enemies more ferocious to balance the difficulty.

>>15564872

The actual brand new features of BB is rally and trick weapons and also the quicksilver bullet/blood bullet thing.

>>15564914

The world was what caught me. In DaS the world felt interesting, organic, and there were unique ways to explore it and shortcuts to find. In DaS 2/3 the worlds felt more like hallways, pretty hallways, but hallways none the less.

>>15564950

i never bothered with 3. but in 2 the level and enemy layout was a mess. felt like i was playing a mod.

bb actually had really good level design on par or arguably better than das.

i also like how the enemy placement gradually changed as it got later into the night. as well as story, npc placement, and dialogue would change as the night went on.

>>15565014

Yup, that’s what’s keeping me playing as well. It’s weird how BB’s level design didn’t carry over to 3 though. I almost wonder if Bamco has something to say about it.

>>15565054

the director didnt want to make 3. he was barely involved. i do appreciate the different direction he supposedly took.

instead of the long journey, then open a door to a bonfire and realize you havnt traveled far, but still glad because now you have a checkpoint. he went for a more linear path, but allowing yourself to see your goal, and where you came from from a various points along the trip was an interesting way to go. but unfortunately lead to bland level design.

>being so shit that you have to grind for blood vials

>not being able to beat most bosses first or second try

If you're not able to maintain a healthy supply of blood vials through natural play, that's entirely your own fault. I've never once has to grind for blood vials

>>15535157

Blood vials are fine. The garbage framerate and input delay are much much worse. I would love a steady 60 fps bloodborne.

BB is some weird mutant half-breed between a true action game and a Souls game. You don't really have the freedom of movement and speed or options of a cuhrazy game, but it's a bit faster than the Souls games before it. You're expected to play aggressively, but one of the best options is just to get behind an enemy while it chimps out with its 20 hit combo and charge up a strong attack backstab, which isn't really very satisfying after a few times and similar to the backstab fishing the Souls games had. The combat is pretty limited really, the trick weapons just give you the illusion of more depth than there is. You're still a really basic hunter compared to the much stronger hunter enemies, and certainly compared to other action protagonists like Ryu. Then there are the technical issues with the game. It just feels so overhyped. Do people who love this not play other games?

>10/10

It's Sonic Souls with less build variety. I wouldn't call it a 10/10. An 8/10 to start with and dragged down by Blood Vial farming to a 6/10

>>15564088 (卐)

It's because he's so smooth, headshots for days.

>>15564412

Yeah the point was so the player could travel further without having to run back to a bonfire to recharge. If you're halfway decent at the game you'll almost always be getting more than you'll be using, except on some difficult bosses your first time through.

>>15561052

Let's be honest, the souls series in general are jokes of a game

souls game suck

>>15566312

>Let's be honest, the souls series in general are jokes of a game

How far in to whichever one did you get before you quit and jumped on the meme-train?

>>15573832

He's not wrong. Souls games are just for tryhard faggots who want to claim they can play difficult games.

>>15564784

>>>/cuckchan/

>>15583871

This. Souosbourne is cancer.

>>15566027

>Easiest From game

But this thread is about Bloodborne not Dark Souls 1

>>15535559

For fun

>>15535157

>He had to farm blood vials

DSP? Is that you?

>>15535157

>10/10

is there even any game you could unironically declare to be 10/10?

>>15591557

Gone Home

>>15535198

This. Blood vials are not an issue unless you lose.

LMAO

>>15591557

Doom.