812472 No.15534628
TALK, SHITPOST, DISCUSS, HOY.
2232ee No.15534859
>>15534628
>HOY.
Why was he so retarded?
ba9483 No.15535109
>>15534628
Is that J.C Denton with a hat
ddbeb1 No.15535118
>>15534859
To be fair, you could apply that line to the entire cast of 4 and 4A.
9bcfc8 No.15535261
>>15534628
Since it's October, I feel like playing some games with demons and shit. I want to play the first 2 Persona games for sure and the Devil Summoner but I was wondering if there are any games that are worth a look at in the SMT library. Any recommendations?
Also is it really true that Personas 3-5 are just waifu simulators?
44f8dc No.15535272
>>15535261
>Also is it really true that Personas 3-5 are just waifu simulators?
There are elements of it but its nowhere near as much as some people claim it to be.
Theres a definite separation between the original Persona trilogy (1, 2IS, 2EP) and the new trilogy (3, 4, 5) in terms of tone.
b5799b No.15535282
>>15535261
>is it really true that Personas 3-5 are just waifu simulators?
With poor dungeon crawler added on top of that.
175fb9 No.15535295
P1 best persona.
SMT If… best SNES SMT
DDS has the best press turn system.
Raidou 2 has the best fusion system.
Law is the best alignment
b5799b No.15535305
>>15535295
>Law is the best alignment
Fucking (((Kike god))) cocksuckers.
7c8d77 No.15535360
Kamoshida is the hero we deserve.
>>15535295
The first line is true.
4fe9b4 No.15535374
>>15535261
>are any games that are worth a look at in the SMT library.
All of them. Personally, I don't like the strategy games, but I don't like strategy games in general, so.
>Any recommendations?
My favs are SMT 1,2 and 3, the Raidou games and Persona 2,3 and 5.
>Also is it really true that Personas 3-5 are just waifu simulators?
Sort of, but it's more about managing the free time between dungeons and depending how your decisions are, the story progresses, your stats level up and you get bonuses on specific demon type fusions through Social Links. Social Links level up if you spend time with friends male and/or female. You have the option to romance the latter.
Some people dislike this, but I love it and think it's a nice addition to the series. Without this time management and VN-like stuff, Persona would be just SMT in a highschool setting which is pretty boring honestly.
>>15535295
>P1 best persona.
No, thats 5.
>SMT If… best SNES SMT
Doesn't matter, since the PS1 version of SMT games are superior to the SNES versions.
>spoiler
>not being a Taoist aka radical centrist
Pleb.
33ce37 No.15535436
>>15535374
>No, thats 5.
>smug Tatsuya and Maya.jpg
762024 No.15535780
>>15535374
I loved 1 but hated playing 2. Good story but damn that backtracking.
1949d7 No.15535798
I've been playing Syncronicity Prologue and I dig it, figure stop being a secondary and check the rest of the series.
Is it your standard JRPG affair or does it do some good shit? I really like the demon designs.
7c8d77 No.15535899
>>15535798
MegaTen is the original moncolle franchise, and better than any imitators to date.
I recommend playing the mainline games in order if you can. The spinoffs are also good. You really can't go wrong (although SMTIV is the weakest SMT).
There's also a dead MMORPG that's getting somewhat revived in a fan-made private server, if you're into that kind of thing.
3cc446 No.15535911
>>15535261
Waifu simulators? Not really. It's first and foremost a high school anime simulator, with waifus as an element of that.
4fe9b4 No.15536014
>>15535780
>I loved 1 but hated playing 2
You mean mainline SMT 2? Yea, it get's a little tedious at times.
>that huge tunnel system after the factory with all those elevators
>center teleport is gone after a while so you have to walk back and forth all the time
>collecting the pillars
>that watchtower where the Sirene is with 15 floors and you have to walk up atleast twice
But it's still a great game and had some nice new changes like the Virtual Battler or the cool cyberpunk setting.
b5f99e No.15536061
Why was the original trio so legendary?
7c8d77 No.15536376
>>15536061
Because they had real talent, and AtlusUSA was too tiny to have any influence on them back then.
812472 No.15536442
>>15536061
Kaneko as always having great taste
76cf76 No.15536531
>>15535360
Who DA MAN now???
7c8d77 No.15536586
>>15536442
Yup, and they all had some nice wristwatches.
Worn on the left wrist, I guess it confirms they're all right-handed.
Just like their game's protagonist.
e1beee No.15539299
i want to fuck pixie and hua po
9027e7 No.15540901
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Is it true that SMT4 is shit? I've seen some gameplay and it looks decent. Plus, I've been listening to some of the OST and it's great stuff.
38c3a7 No.15540907
>>15540901
Its good but it has problems
The biggest problems it has are being balanced around DLC shit, and people thought the smirk system was a bit too grossly imbalanced even for an SMT game. Plus it was done a bit "by the book" for an SMT game
I would personally still give it a 7.5/10 though. Maybe an 8 or a bit higher
38c3a7 No.15540912
>>15540907
Oh, I also forgot the dungeons were largely very simplistic
114549 No.15540934
>>15540901
I had fun with it, smirk makes luck fucking broken.
64e6c7 No.15541103
I've always been curious: has anyone ever ripped demon models?
27f7d6 No.15541415
>>15535295
>P1 best persona
Damn straight, Also Eriko best persona girl.
f0bab1 No.15541442
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15540901
There are no dungeons, the combat sucks, I hate it, even the Devil Survivors are better games. 10/10 OST though.
1cb6ec No.15541658
>SMT finally gets an official translation
>iOS exclusive
ef0159 No.15541733
Just beaten SMT IV, moving on to Apocalypse. You weren't joking that the plot for this games is absolutely identical, but I feel we cross the line between cheap and insulting here. My only suggestion to newcomers is to ignore the story (which is nonsensical bullshit), or even better stick to Nocturne which simply doesn't have one and that's actually an improvement.
I thought Jimenez in Strange Journey was stupid enough to randomly cut and run with demons in an alien dimension, but oh boy does Walter one up him. The chaos hero's moment of realization has to be the running gag of these shit stories. Walter basically turns on humanity when a giant scorpion monster with a gaping blood splattered mouth tells him to get woke. Way to go bub, start eating people to solve the world's problems.
f868a0 No.15541738
Copypasting from the PQ thread, just so everyone sees it:
>Sega of America and Atlus U.S.A. announced today that Sega of America’s current president and COO, Ian Curran, will become president and COO of Atlus U.S.A, among some other changes at top.
>In order to further the financial goals of both Sega of America and Atlus U.S.A., Sega West CEO, Tatsuyuki Miyazaki will assume the role of Atlus U.S.A. CEO. Naoto Hiraoka will step into a role to focus as Atlus brand owner.
>“I’m so proud of the work we’ve done at Atlus U.S.A., Inc. and Mr. Miyazaki and Mr. Curran will continue to guide the company to even greater success,” said Naoto Hiraoka, former President and CEO, Atlus U.S.A. Inc. and Senior Vice President, SEGA of America, Inc. “I look forward to creating more exciting projects with the creative team at ATLUS in Japan, and wish my colleagues the best of luck growing the business in the Americas and EMEA.”
>Mr. Hiraoka will remain on the board of Atlus U.S.A., Inc. and SEGA of America, Inc.
tl;dr - AtlusUSA is changing presidents, and Hiraoka is getting more direct control of Atlus' IPs. I hope this won't be too disastrous.
https://archive.fo/AGM8v
https://archive.fo/5xqBk
ef0159 No.15541791
>>15540901
>Is it true that SMT4 is shit?
The gameplay is generally fine, but difficulty is all over the place.
1. The turn press system has this new smirk mechanic, where critical hits might give you a powerful bonus for the next round: it basically spells a cheap death whenever it happens in the early game.
2. You are expected to hit roaming enemies in melee, to initiate combate having the first turn. This is a tricky and quick reaction moment, basically an irritating QTE to be repeated at every encounter. In the early game, the enemy will kill you in that first turn you lost.
3. You cannot imagine the pain of navigating the tokyo worldmap. It's like it was designed to shit you in the mouth.
4. The fusion system is too powerful, you are allowed to choose whatever skill to inherit and even freely pass them to the MC.
There is something I found masterfully done, and that's the itemization of money. Macca is fucking hard to come by, and you need to scavenge for trash or selling precious items to make some. Random encouters don't provide any cash reward, in example.
528fee No.15541847
>>15541733
>I thought Jimenez in Strange Journey was stupid enough to randomly cut and run with demons in an alien dimension
At that point he was more demon than human anyway. He learned to rely and befriend demons more than humans with Bugaboo the same way that Russian tart gets close to (((Mastema))) and the angels.
70f357 No.15541875
I want this mask from BestMT
1697ec No.15541882
>>15539299
what about Choukeshin
8eab49 No.15541891
>>15541103
I know back in the day people posted some model swaps for the PS2-era Persona games, and the guys reviving the IMAGINE MMO mentioned adding some demons that weren't there before. Besides that, I don't think anyone's done any ripping.
e54752 No.15541896
Okay, so, real talk, when are we gonna get Devil Summoner cuhrayzee game?
Also Scatach best shadow and you can't prove me wrong even if you tried.
ef0159 No.15541901
>>15541847
Jimenez fusing with the retard demon and gaining the power of down syndrome will always be the highest point of the series. It's like an anime adaptation of The Fly.
8edb0a No.15542172
>>15540901
It's shit and you're a literal retard if you enjoy it.
>play game
>put +4 in DPS and 1 in speed
>use multi target attack
>beat every random encounter
>have higher dps then level 90 demons by level 40
Nice design, fuck nu atlas
175fb9 No.15542179
By the way, if anyone wants to play the absolute best SNES era SMT game with a partial translation (just menus, items, skills and combat IIRC), I can provide a rom of SMT If… with it.
8edb0a No.15542190
>>15540901
Hook me up, sounds great
175fb9 No.15542222
https://my.mixtape.moe/asatrr.smc
Here's the rom.
Basically nothing that's not directly combat based is translated, but at least it's something.
I recommend using save states to savescum demon negotiation and there's also a guide in gamefags I recommend following, you'll be completely fucking lost in some worlds without it.
8edb0a No.15542225
>>15542222
you deserve those dubs, top dude.
f1f3a1 No.15542236
>>15540468
>ywn use pixie and hua po like living onaholes
why even live
5e1946 No.15542528
>>15534628
Stop asking others to do what you can't do yourself, faggot
dcd3e6 No.15544032
>>15541791
With 68 hours in,I don't feel like points 1 and 2 are relevant.
I agree with point 3, fuck whivhever retarded faggot designed the map.
And I absolutely disagree with point 4.
Refreshing fusions in SMT 3 a million times just to get the abilities you wanted was an absolute pain in the ass, and you're a fucking liar if you're saying that it added anything worthwhile to the game.
SMT IV is the weakest game in the series, but it also trims down on a lot of annoying things, so even if it's not my favourite, it'a still my go-to game.
5ae202 No.15544272
175fb9 No.15545415
ff0c40 No.15545540
>>15542222
>>15542225
Better than dubs, … quads.
bf7fc8 No.15547459
Holy shit, is Apocalypse bad - I tried my best to ignore the shitty angsty jpop design, but the childhood friend waifu is killing it for me. It's like they're actively trying to ruin any kind of atmosphere the original had. Unless there's a twist turning everything head over heels, I'll have to drop this.
>>15544032
>total control over skills is cheap, but refreshing fusions in nocturne is worse
Just lower the max amount of skills you can inherit, faggot. At least one third should be fixed.
7c669a No.15547480
>>15547459
Just treat everyone like shit.
a00d48 No.15547515
>>15547459
>Just trim the edges off your plate of shit , faggot.
>You'll only have to eat one third of it then.
1697ec No.15547942
>>15547459
>Holy shit, is Apocalypse bad - I tried my best to ignore the shitty angsty jpop design, but the childhood friend waifu is killing it for me. It's like they're actively trying to ruin any kind of atmosphere the original had. Unless there's a twist turning everything head over heels, I'll have to drop this.
There is a "kill everyone" route, for what it's worth
82474f No.15547997
>>15547942
> "kill everyone" route,
Killing the game itself would be even faster. I just have to choose between DDS and the Raidou titles.
d8a730 No.15548011
>>15541791
>macca is hard to come by
That's only because they really wanted to sell you the DLC! God Goy either grind for 90 hours or just pay 15$ to get the sick macca grind DLC!
9c3c83 No.15548458
>>15548011
>That's only because they really wanted to sell you the DLC!
That's retarded, it's the same argument used for microaggressions ('the man helping a woman is sexist because in truth he is shaming her'). The only goy is you who lusts after cheap gains, I bet you actually bought it because you felt disadvantaged.
32e6fa No.15553941
>>15548458
Well, there is an extremely grindy endgame shop in SMTIV, but it's optional.
That aside, if you take advantage of the negotiation apps and status ailments, you shouldn't have any trouble getting enough macca out of enemies, no DLC crutch needed.
35fa0c No.15553991
>>15547459
The characters stay shit until the end. The only party member that somewhat grew on me was Gaston by the end, and even then I still wanted to get rid of him. Apoc was only really worth it for based Dagda letting you kill your shitty friends more brutally than any recent SMT and then reviving and brainwashing one of them to be your unconditional soulless waifu for your new world.
Threadly reminder that he did NOTHING wrong.
ff0c40 No.15554056
>>15553941
I hate how it railroads you into Law though. I made some pretty huge Chaos choices throughout the game, didn't do braindead retarded shit just for the sake of making a Chaos choice, and somehow I'm stuck with the Law ending because I'm on citra and savestated too late to change anything.
87d121 No.15560355
>>15553941
Cool it with the anti-Luxurorism goy
16a610 No.15560397
>>15554056
>I hate how it railroads you into Law
The entire alignment system in 4 is so fucking terrible.
I managed to somehow get the Neutral ending on my first go blind, then I read online about it and figured out I hit the local lottery, it's an 8% chance.
150c51 No.15560431
>>15554056
Got neutral on my first try. Chaos leaning. Don't know what you're talking about, this isn't strange journey.
>kill the demon who's openly talking about mass slaughtering humans
>tell the suicidal woman she's a cunt
>play the rest of the game normally
That ginza stadium lets you nudge your alignment anyway. If that didn't help, I have some bad news for you you're a fucking lawfag
99add0 No.15560601
>>15560397
It wouldn't be too bad if the final question had a neutral option (one that gave no points to either law/chaos). As it stands you have to be slightly on one side of law or chaos before going through all those questions that lock you into an ending.
981d68 No.15560604
>>15560397
Everyone I've seen talking about this game gets neutral though
981d68 No.15560612
>>15560601
Neutral options should only be available sparingly otherwise you just pick it every time and where's the fun in that? Forcing hard choices between two (and keeping your past choices in mind) is better than offering a 3rd effective "cop-out" for every time you're faced with a decision
99add0 No.15560640
>>15560612
>Neutral options should only be available sparingly
Yes, like a question that could be the difference between getting one alignment ending over another. The question with the whites at the end can push you right out of the neutral end if, ironically, you are too neutral going into it.
57480b No.15560660
Why the fuck didn't Atlus go with this design for Johanna in P5? It's fucking miles ahead of
>teehee my purse owner is a bike xDDD
in both that it fucking looks cool and that it properly showcases the role Pope Joan actually had in real life.
d95bc9 No.15560721
Is there a better feeling than killing the insufferable cast of 4A?
f5110c No.15560765
>>15560660
>the role Pope Joan actually had in real life.
Pope Joan isn't considered a real person by most historians. Even P5 mentions this in game
I understand what you mean about the design though
13d2d3 No.15568110
>>15535374
If by "some people" you mean most of the old fans of SMT because we played many games and know a shitty waifu simulator that have no place in a series like persona to begin with when we see one then yes you're right. And funny you say best persona is 5 but if you played 2 then you should be saying 2 since 5 basically copied and pasted the entire plot of 2 save for a few things. Make no mistake 4 is the worst persona but 3 and 5 suck too and one of the reasons is because they're all about being waifu simulators.
546966 No.15568112
>>15534628
I'm gonna restart DS: Overclocked after my first attempt ended in firey failure. Any tips on what to do to not be such a fuck up this time? Strats to get me through?
13d2d3 No.15568114
>>15541415
There's a manga for persona 1? Is it translated?
546966 No.15568962
52fc10 No.15568984
>>15568114
Yes it’s all translated.
a8e548 No.15569495
d8a730 No.15569764
>>15569495
Why would you want one after the horrible games that were SMT4 and Apoc?
23719b No.15569901
I forgot where I got this, but I think it was a now-deleted channel. Rip Hitoshura ;_;7
62e82a No.15572445
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>>15541882
in a heartbeat, heres an uncensored version
57743b No.15572499
>>15560721
Turning the insufferable cast of P4 into broken meat dolls in eramegaten.
44f8dc No.15572507
>>15572499
>Wanted to play eramegaten again
>Saves corrupted
>Dont want to grind though the early game again
>Too much of a lazy cunt to save edit
57743b No.15572550
>>15572507
The early game is pretty fast to go through if you know what you are doing. Make the MC an adept and pick Dilettante/Gang Leader as your class for that sweet charge/almighty physical attack combo. Buy Chefei from the secret path in the red light district and use that free set of equipment you get from one of the events. Chefei has tons of mutations so you can keep her the entire game and the gear is much stronger than anything else you can get at early on.
d95bc9 No.15572820
>>15539299
Isn't hua po a literal semen demon
23719b No.15573308
>>15572820
No, the wiki entry says it comes from the spirit of people who hanged themselves from trees. Sure you're not thinking of Alraune, the plant one fertilized with blood and semen of hanged victims?
d95bc9 No.15573330
>>15573308
Oh yeah, probably.
a5446e No.15573365
>>15569764
>best entries in the series
>horrible
0a289d No.15573461
>>15573365
>SMT4 and SMT4A
>>best entries in the series
>>>/gasyourself/
>>15568112
15STR, 40MAG, 15AGI and rest into vit.
Holy Dance will JUST all bosses and Megidolaon will kill all mobs. Don't forget about giving drain to MC too.
0a289d No.15573470
>>15572550
>>15572507
To add - you can also recruit angel It mutates 8 times. so it can stay with you for entire game.
27f7d6 No.15574773
aaa6df No.15574957
Imagine if Kaneko comes back, but for Persona 6.
57743b No.15574976
>>15574957
Kaneko is dead. He has not actually done anything in a very long time. The yakuza killed him. Probably.
23719b No.15575001
>>15568112
USE CRACKS RETARD
No but seriously, the first time I played DeSu, I didn't know that skill cracking could be done without setting the skill afterward. When I lent the game out to a friend, I found the same problem.
WORLD OF MAG is the only real build in DeSu, especially because Lucy fucking reflects phys on phase 3
>>15574976
That's not true and you know it.
He was found dead after attempting to consume nightshade in a flower field
e6b1f4 No.15575235
>>15574957
>>15574976
>>15575001
I pray for Kaneko. Someone at Atlus (or connected to it) must hate him.
But they evidently hated Okada even more.
981d68 No.15575413
>>15575235
The bastards should have never split up the trio
atlus games will never be the same now
40ce61 No.15576164
>>15569764
Don't forget the Strange Journey remake.
c510d8 No.15577571
>>15554056
No anon you're literally a law fag who thinks he's not.
b4bf36 No.15578066
To prepare myself before playing Nocturne, I fully read a Catholic Bible (KJV) and the Quran. Although honestly, you're far better off not reading these holy books at all imo. Other than understanding the Abrahamic SMT demons and figures slightly better, wasting my time in learning a lot of religious knowledge wasn't really worth it. The SMT series' use of real world religions is half-baked and Pokemonish at best.
I still plan on reading the Kojiki next because Persona 4 and Okami got me interested in Shinto.
6c21be No.15578091
>>15578066
Well doesn't the plot of Nocturne have more to do with Zoroastrianism than any Abrahamic greligions?
57743b No.15578129
>>15578091
Not to mention SMT does not use the christian God to begin with. It uses the jew one.
981d68 No.15578243
>>15578066
These kinds of games and whatnot rarely tend to use the holy books directly. Instead they use the more fantastical shit you find in alternative or supplemental texts or apocrypha
ebbeb5 No.15578304
>>15578129
Christianity and Judaism have the same roots though?
57743b No.15578334
>>15578304
Both fractured off the proto-Abrahamic religion but neither is very similar. They are completely different religions with very different practices and beliefs.
9b3a72 No.15581500
>Sega Aims to Prioritize Localization Efforts for Simultaneous Worldwide Releases
>"During the product development stage, game content is shared with the localization team for translation before the development is finished, facilitating the rapid release of foreign language versions of the game. We will strengthen such collaboration further with the aim of simultaneously releasing games around the world, which is an objective of Road to 2020."
This should be good news, but I know better than to be optimistic these days.
Maybe someday they'll be able to translate a game in less than half a year, but I'm not holding my breath.
Also, the Devil Children anime is getting a 480i remaster on Bluray next year.
90cf70 No.15581554
Never played Persona, is Persona Q on the 3ds any good?
1fe261 No.15581596
>>15535374
Balanced ending it the worst ending.
44f8dc No.15581632
>>15581554
Persona Q is the absolute last thing you should be playing. Its a spinoff that has spoilers for multiple mainline games.
Just play them in release order for fucks sakes.
d25213 No.15581692
>>15581500
>Also, the Devil Children anime is getting a 480i remaster on Bluray next year.
what resolution was it at before? 480i is normal broadcast resolution…?
784b03 No.15581697
RIP megami tensei
RIP etrian odyssey
f24127 No.15581702
>Sega shares updated sales numbers for Persona, Megami Tensei, Yakuza, and more; aiming for simultaneous worldwide releases
>Megami Tensei series (since 1987) – Approx. 12.4 million (units / downloads) (packaged and digital total) across 30 total editions
>Persona series (since 1996) – Approx. 9.3 million (units / downloads) (packaged and digital total) across 15 total editions
784b03 No.15581713
>>15581702
what do these retards expect when 90% of the series is not localized, and the ones that are are unavailable for purchase anywhere, other than the shitty iOS port of Shin Megami Tensei i guess lmao.
which by the way is not supported by newer versions of iOS. pretty much 6 months after it was released on the itunes store, it became broken for many phones
23719b No.15581837
>>15581632
What the fuck are you talking about, mainline SMT or mainline Persona?
I think I accidentally played it as my first purse owner because I was interested in it as a dungeon crawler, and I don't remember any spoilers except maybe Junpei knows and cares about Chidori, which makes sense for when the game is asserted to happen for the P3 side (which is while MC is sick that one weekend).
The only real problem with it being Persona is that the characters are really flanderized, which I don't particularly care about as it's a spin-off.
57743b No.15581940
>>15581837
Nusona characters don't have enough personality that they can be flanderized. They are one note to begin with.