49e467 No.15534293
I've read a bunch of arguments in the defence of Half Life and I have reached the conclusion it is shit. That's after trying the game maybe 3-4 times now. There's just a point where it hits you that there is no point to keep playing. The game has no real qualities to keep you engaged.
Driving an airboat or car is not fun. The shooting is standard. The physics engine has little to no effect on the game content/mechanics. The AI is shit. The enemy designs don't really do anything special. More often that not the game is just barren.
There is nothing happening in this game, very linear too.
Common defence points;
-Other games copied it so it's no longer special
-You had to play it at the time
-The physics engine
-The AI
-The story
-No cutscenes
-Seamless area transitions
Any others I need reminded of? All these points are easily walked around, none of them hold up to even the slightest scrutiny. It only takes Duke Nukem 3D 1 level to take a giant shit over the first 2 hours of Half Life 2, which is probably a quarter or a third of the game? Have these people never played another fucking FPS? I don't think I've completed a single FPS post-Half Life 2s release date. I've never finished Half life 2 and never will, same for the original game. I must say even the first Half Life shits over HL2.
If I had to describe the game, they made an engine and then stitched a bunch of schizophrenic pieces together and called it a game.
I was too busy playing UT2004 when HL2 released. I don't think I've played through a singleplayer FPS newer than HL2 besides Halo 3, that's not to say Halo 3 was good. Need some recommendations maybe…. Was thinking Thief might be up my alley, never played. Deus Ex doesn't interest me because I don't like dialogue. Maybe I will or won't, just needed to vent after wasting another hour or more giving shitty HL2 a chance to open my eyes. It hasn't changed from all those years ago.
b39384 No.15534309
Yeah HL2 is shit and Halo 2 is better in every way, but I'm honestly kinda tired of this subject so why don't we just talk about good games from the year 2004?
071646 No.15534310
You really showed me with those hot opinions
1af85d No.15534316
No shit retard, the only reason people were interested in Half Life 2 was for the Source SDK.
8302c1 No.15534321
Never played it but I always thought the AI is alright. What's so bad about it?
067ac8 No.15534323
1af85d No.15534327
>>15534321
It's kind of a boring game, and it was more of a tech demo for Source than trying to be a game.
d56601 No.15534331
I remember having a hell of a time back when HL2 was fresh out, and the physics, graphics and design felt really fresh.
But any time i try to replay it these days i can't make it past the Vehicle chapter because that's really quite a slog.
You should definitely check out Thief and Thief 2 but aisde from being 1st person that's nothing like any FPS. It's not like Dishonored where sneaking is optional.
7f34f1 No.15534347
>>15534293
>The shooting is standard
God no. HL2 had some awful bullet sponges and shit accuracy on all weapons. Unreal Tournament 2004, Painkiller, Joint Op, and hell even Halo 2 (even though it had slow ass movement and a 2 weapon limit lol) were all better than that shit.
d56601 No.15534359
>>15534293
>Need some recommendations maybe
If you haven't yet you should check out F.E.A.R. and Condemned.
30d109 No.15534365
>>15534293
>Any others I need reminded of?
The environments. I'm not going to pretend that HL2 is the best game ever, but it does have some damn fine environments. I actually really enjoy the fact that there are a few moments where you're just walking around an area without having to fight of generic soldiers every 30 seconds.
Also the puzzles weren't bad.
19c2ad No.15534368
Everything that made Half-Life 1 good and its expansions were forgotten about in the second game. I used not hate it, had fun playing it once. But yeah, the more i think about it after i have. Its shit.
820b9f No.15534385
>>15534293
nice-oh reddit post,upboated
f42740 No.15534394
>>15534293
Half-Life 2 is not a game, it’s a aesthetic.
Nobody remembers Half-Life 2 for being a good game mechanically, people remember the setting, the aesthetics, the story or—if you’re a queer—the characters. You don’t see even fans discussing gameplay as often as all the aforementioned things. And for a good reason – City 17 is still the comfiest vidya setting.
eb2ff4 No.15534400
ef7377 No.15534435
It's a really boring shooter.
Environments and levels left much to be desired, combat was absolutely dreadful and it didn't even feel like you're shooting anything. Enemy types were so wildly different I sometimes felt like I was in a horror game or something (especially in Ravenholm). So I can see why you'd say they put a bunch of random pieces together and called it a game.
071646 No.15534473
>>15534394
>City 17 is still the comfiest vidya setting.
<Rundown slavic shithole
<comfy
?
e715e0 No.15534488
>>15534394
>it’s a aesthetic.
And it fucks up even being that, as the game ends on a cliffhanger to be resolved via DLC that never materialized.
cd9aee No.15534492
>>15534488
>>15534488
>DLC that never materialized.
Oh boy here comes the entitlement again
87e1f0 No.15534500
>>15534492
>gamer entitlement
hello journalist
30d109 No.15534505
>>15534492
>here comes the entitlement again
Go home cuckchanner.
6ecd13 No.15534519
>(1)
I'm going to assume this is bait which is actually sad, OP is right. The game has piss poor pacing, too many puzzles with combat mixed in, it feels like treading through mud until good parts, and for the most part is overrated in it's accomplishments with 0 replayability.
1cefad No.15534537
>>15534473
>not finding slavic shitholes comfy
This is your brain on “anime”. But in all seriousness, what makes a setting truly comfy is the sense of danger lurking just around the corner. See the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. series.
>>15534488
Literally who cares? The episodes are not canon. Episode One was just one big escort mission with pretty environments here and there, Episode Two was more of the same, except without anything that made Half-Life 2 unique. Gee, fucking caves, forests and mountains, never seen anything like that in other games.
1cefad No.15534567
>>15534559
I know, I just couldn't come up with a better word quickly enough. Should've put it in quotation marks.
deaade No.15534605
>>15534559
No it isn't you retard.
Why dont you fuck off back to 4chan.
e0903a No.15534623
I've never played a single Valve game and never will tbh.
735b16 No.15534654
>>15534537
>implying anime affects one's appreciation for the majestic dilapidated slavscape
759ffc No.15534815
>>15534293
>muh other FPS games
You're edgy, got it. You don't have to act like everything has to be a 90s doom clone.
2582d4 No.15534847
2e6223 No.15534856
The Half Life series is the definition of overrated.
Half Life 1 - Claims to be the first that did those long unskippable "first person interactive cutscenes" that plagues modern FPS games now. Turning a cool genre about shootan stuff into a pretentious one where the story is more important than the gameplay.
Half Life 2 - Claims to have the first gravity based weapon, the Gravity Gun. Braindead simple puzzles to boot.
b65342 No.15534879
255de6 No.15534895
>>15534293
your first couple of paragraphs fit with what I found. despite every brainlet on the planet screaming that I'm trying to be edgy, or "go back to farmville" etc.
it feels shit to play, within seconds of the game, the crowbar felt like an alpha-build joke, no feel to it, like it is moving 2 inches and hitting enemies from 2 feet away. guns are boring and without feeling, like a microsoft game, levels were boring and unmemorable, vehicles were floaty and provided no excitement, not to mention they could be driven for about a minute along an empty canal.
I tried it when it came out, and stopped playing after forcing myself through a few levels. It just isn't fun, feels like a tech-demo made by people without imagination or talent.
5e6dfe No.15534961
>>15534293
>unpopular opinion time
you're posting this on 8/v/ and you think people here are going to argue with you? Wow, you reached the same conclusion everyone else did, congratulations. Buy yourself a gold star or something.
>>15534492
If I ever make a game of my own, I'll make a difficulty setting just for you. I'll call it "Game Journalist" and give you god mode so you can actually have a chance at beating a game for once in your life.
sage for shit thread
d04b8e No.15535116
I see a lot of people hating on HL2, but I don't see it. I always enjoy it when I play it, though it definitely has some weak points like the unskippable cutscenes.
6f8e08 No.15535144
Congratulations, you've learned about nostalgia goggles.
It's the same shit with people praising Shadow of the Colossus when it has a completely pointless and empty over world, minimal gameplay, and popularized the hideous brown n' bloom art style that plagued the first half of 7th gen games.
f846dc No.15535214
i've played through it a couple of times and enjoy it, really like the pacing and sense of adventure (despite being linear), it starts to become a drag past ravenholm but the soundtrack, atmosphere etc makes me not mind as much
loved fucking about with the antlions too
2ed444 No.15535234
>>15534365
This. Set pieces goes a long way.
>enter a prison through a beach
>prison goes from post-commie brick gulag to full dystopia sci-fi sleek metal
>have to escape sleepy zombie town by going throigh the mines
>mines are part abandoned/part unexplored area
>have to go along coastal road and fix bridges
>city fights take you from sewers to towers, to subway tunnels, to car tunnels.
3d3dc5 No.15535239
>>15534293
I agree honestly. The furthest I ever made it in Half Life 2 was the helicopter boss fight on the bridge. I was so fucking sick of running away from the chopper while jumping from beam to beam I just turned the game off. Never went back except to mess with the gravity gun
bb277c No.15535271
>>15534293
>I must say even the first Half Life shits over HL2.
Holy shit, this. Half Life was shilled so hard here that I finally got around to playing it several years ago, starting with HL1 obviously. Going from it to HL2 was a massive let-down. HL1 wasnt particularly imaginative or groundbreaking in any way, but it was a fairly solid FPS. HL2 felt like I was playing a fucking CoD. Level design was infinitely worse compared to HL1, the game was shorter and easier, and even the plot was worse.
b7b39e No.15535294
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Open if you hate yourself
bb277c No.15535296
>>15534394
>generic panelhouse is considered AESTHETIC
Now it all makes sense. Since all I have to do to see such "majestic sights" is look out the window, I have no appreciation for the deep artistic value of socialist functionalism.
Go to a vacation in Poland or Slovakia or some other post-soviet country and you'll have enough material to gush over forever.
49bc7c No.15535312
>>15534309
>Gaylo anything
Yeah no
b7b39e No.15535333
>>15535312
>inb4 UR JUST A CONTRARIAN
49bc7c No.15535388
e715e0 No.15535421
>>15534537
>Literally who cares? The episodes are not canon
>Source: me
Even if you aren't full of shit, the game still ends on a cliffhanger that will never be resolved
6e0f2c No.15535427
f34f9d No.15535435
>>15535421
>cliffhanger that will never be resolved
774f48 No.15535467
>>15534293
>other games copied it
>you had to play it at the time
>the physics engine
>implying the AI was good
>the story
>no cutscenes
>seamless area transitions
But anon, that's literally what made it good, you listed it all.
d209e0 No.15535471
Isn't this common knowledge on this board? Level design sucks. Walkie talkie sequences are extremely overused in this game because the dumbfucks thought it was an actually good method of story delivery and not just a means of increasing tension – they only happen at the very beginning in HL1 and every time you stop to talk to someone they say "Hey Freeman, buncha weird shit happening today but the experiment with the new specimen will go SWIMMINGLY! … probably." No Lamar the headcrab, no pointless meme garbage or waifuism with an ugly mud. No good AI, too many boring weapons.
db3a71 No.15535725
>I've read a bunch of arguments in the defence of Half Life (2)
1. Where did you read that from?
2. Go back there.
cf9359 No.15536499
>>15534293
It worked well enough the first time around for me and trying to see more of the world kept me going But I love exploring in pretty much any game
But every time after that I just drop the game in the early chapters because the actual gameplay is boring as fuck not to mention that you do the same thing to the T. At least with Metro or even the new Doom I can still play differently enough.
c2fa6a No.15536527
Half Life 2 has really aged poorly, and that's not just recently either.
It was literally just a physics engine showcase and it certainly did not deserve being so over-rated.
Anyone who even to this day believes honestly that Half Life 2 is 'great' or deserves to be remembered as a 'masterpiece' should just drink toilet water tbh.
79f6ed No.15536669
>>15535435
>the Borealis gets turned into a time-traveling hyperspeed missile
Can't say that I buy it.
f34f9d No.15536690
>>15536669
That's written by the lead writer of the entire series, Marc Laidlaw. Sure, if an Episode 3 was made today, it might be different, especially since Laidlaw's no longer associated with Valve, but this is as canon as we can get.
ca5469 No.15536776
>>15534309
>HL2 is shit and Halo 2 is better in every way
If you need anymore proof /v/ is the gayest board here then this thread proves it
70f548 No.15536802
>>15536776
And we already have a "Why Halo is hated?" thread. These things go hand in hand, like a "Morrowind hater" thread and the ''"Skyrim isn't bad guys" thread.
49e467 No.15536810
Interesting comments guys. I've installed Doom to try. I played it back on Windows 98 but never since, maybe once to try that Brutal Doom mod. It takes about a minute to download. I actually got lost in the 3rd level, that's such a great feeling.
I always preferred Duke Nukem because the level designs were so great. But I think it too even suffers from the old idea of putting your best levels at the beginning and end with a weak middle, but it's still leaps above HL2.
Need to figure out how to install the HD mods for Thief, downloaded the GoG version. Never played it before but I find stealth mechanics don't really age and the idea of navigating a labyrinth with objectives on a piece of paper that grow with the difficulty level is compelling.
DOOM 2016 I pirated but didn't get past the first outdoors area. Battle arenas with waves of enemies pretending to be a campaign are not fun for me.
Haven't tried Quake in forever. I played Jedi Academy years ago but never Outcast. Always found Dark Forces 2 speedruns interesting as fuck to watch. Haven't tried Shadow Warrior which might be perfect because I liked Duke Nukem 3D.
I'm rambling, but it looks like I was on the money. Still I see HL2 come up in FPS threads even here. Outside this place they think HL2 is the holy grail of shooters, God save us all.
49e467 No.15536814
b6d814 No.15536839
I remember loving half life 2 when it was released, but it was by the fact that i was a kid, i didnt think about the limitations of the game so i always got that feel of expectation that something new and fun will happen, i cant force nostalgia googles on myself, most games feel boring now even the ones i loved
d209e0 No.15537924
>>15536810
Quake has incredible 3d level and enemy design. It's my personal favorite of all the campaigns id has made assuming no mods. Doom 1 is my second.
55576d No.15538456
>>15534293
wow you're such a fedora, congrats.
bd3223 No.15538512
>>15534293
>Half Life 2 is shit
Preaching to the choir OP
d354fd No.15538606
>>15535312
Father and son did nothing wrong.
9f783f No.15538778
Yeah, it's pretty shit. I replayed the whole series last year and you know what I realized? The real reason episode 3 never got made was that they ran out of ideas. It wasn't because 'the technology isn't there yet!' or any other excuse valve has been happy to let it's fans invent for them. They just didn't have any more ideas for novel setpieces and without setpieces half life is pretty much nothing. Improving the core gameplay would mean undoing all the hard work they put into dumbing it down while developing HL2.
Driving the vehicles was fun though.
2cc96b No.15539006
>>15534321
The AI is sort of OK, it's just that the level design is poor and the humanoid enemies have such low HP that you run roughshod over them.
HL1's soldiers were similar but much quicker and were quite bullet spongy. Fighting them was way more intense.
0e6f16 No.15539596
>>15535421
I still don’t get how that fucks up the aesthetic, as >>15534488 said. Sure, in terms of story it’s kinda meh but even then literally who cares, the story of HL2 went to shit the moment defeating the combines became an actual possibility. An interuniversal empire being defeated by one sewer-dwelling guy “being in right places”? Yeah, right… The Half-Life series should’ve been about Gordon Freeman a.k.a. The Player doing contracts for G-Man for all eternity and that’s it.
3d4106 No.15539659
The one good thing about HL2 is killing human combine. Maybe it's the sounds they make when they die, or the way they ragdoll. I don't know why, but it's so satisfying.
6b7312 No.15547656
>>15534293
Nice hipster opinion faggot.
>>15534394
This is the best post in this thread. I love you Anon. The atmosphere and sound design makes the whole game.
64554d No.15547686
I could never stand playing this game. Got bored and quit by the boat level.
7f52e1 No.15548009
Its not a game so it doesn't belong here.
5dfca8 No.15548320
youre a very special anon with an interesting and unique perspective and you should make more threads on /v/ that you meant to post to reddit
182352 No.15549307
>Deus Ex
Is it better to play the PC version, or the PS2 port?
4bc2b1 No.15549512
>>15534293
Play the game through SMOD. It improves it.
4bc2b1 No.15549517
>>15549307
Play the game using GMDX using the PC version. The Ai and certain technological aspects of the game have aged rather poorly and GMDX fixes most of these issues.
67e01b No.15549520
>>15549307
play the game vanilla on pc with deusexe to fix any compatibility or rendering issues
4bc2b1 No.15549532
>>15536810
Who the hell thinks that HL2 is the holy grail of shooters, I've alreadys thought that the preferred normalfag shooter was Halo and Overwatch/Fortnite if we are talking about the current year.
67e01b No.15549597
>>15549532
wasn't even the best shooter of 2004.
bd3223 No.15550271
>>15547656
>enjoying a shit game loved by hipsters and redditors
<calls others hipsters
Nice argument Valvecuck
>The atmosphere and sound design makes the whole game.
Probably correct, seeing as how HL2s dogshit gameplay and pacing sure as fuck don't make it.
>>15549532
>Who the hell thinks that HL2 is the holy grail of shooters,
I recall dogshit mags like PC Gamer and other sites as the BEST GAYME OF ALL TIME for years not to mention an cuckchan chart listing it as top 100 /v/ games
20f7ac No.15550299
>>15549307
PC, as several others have said, mod it, you can also get the PS2 only cinematics to be put in-game.
2704a6 No.15550305
Of course it is. Halo is way better.
bd3223 No.15550317
>>15536574
>set pieces
>better than whats happening in most "fps" games these days
Nigger, HL2 is practically the blueprint for everything bad in FPS games these days, such as bad AI, shit weapons, linear design, and especially those non-interactive first person cutscenes "set pieces"
bb254c No.15550519
34a831 No.15550719
I don't think I've ever seen anybody defend the start or end of HL2, the fans always focus on the actually fun middle section of the game (from the airboat segment to the start of the prison) and just sort of pretend the city segments never happened.
>>15549512
SMOD improves the combat somewhat, but doesn't do anything to fix the constant unskippable cutscenes, the three almost back-to-back escort missions or the general awfulness of the sewers.
da9b77 No.15551362
>>15549512
cant, its broken, atleast steam version I tried a few years ago
the slow-mo doesnt work
34a831 No.15551380
>>15551362
You need to reconfigure it to use an older version of Source. I think 2010 was the last compatible version.
7741eb No.15551474
bd3223 No.15551484
>>15550433
Nice trips. But HL2 is still shit, and I never said Gaylo was any better, nigger faggot.
6a827e No.15551519
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>>15534321
>HL 2 ai is kinda ok
13b68e No.15551528
>>15551519
Halo's AI is pretty good. They'll dodge your grenades and shots, run away if hurt or outnumbered, try to flank you, fire at your last known position as a type of suppression.
ec2df7 No.15551542
>>15551528
HL2 does all of that shit too. The metro police AI is intentionally worse than the combine soldier's AI.
6a827e No.15551553
>>15551542
Call me when the trash in HL2 comes even close to that of FEAR.
ec2df7 No.15551556
>>15551553
The AI is about the same in both games.
6a827e No.15551570
051235 No.15555793
caeb12 No.15556367
>>15534293
You simply can't escape the fact that you had to appreciate this game for its time. It hasn't aged well at all, that's for certain, but that doesn't mean it was always a bland and generic FPS.
6d221a No.15556510
>>15534309
That game doesn't exist.
cc2486 No.15556553
>>15534293
oh good it's this post again. OP your opinions are so subversive
bd3223 No.15556718
>>15556553
Countersage, Valvecuck.
4b5f24 No.15564891
>>15534293
Half Life 1 is shit as well.
f54a5f No.15566432
>>15536776
I was hoping to get more of a discussion about the games in question but i'll just settle for the standard ad homin I guess, which is typical for points that can't be argued
>>15535312
Nice newfag webm, but that's to be expected from some dumbass who can't be bothered to discuss video games on a board for that specific reason.
bd1a34 No.15567801
Retards that proclaim it to be the best game of all time usually are people that haven't actually played it and instead just say that because other people told them to say it is. I mean, sites like IGN sure love to put it at the top of every single top 100 list. The only redeeming value is the mods, if you take the ACTUAL game as your frame of reference then it's garbage.
>>15534537
>See the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. series.
STALKER's aesthetic lies in more than just "look at this old building" while HL2 really only grasps the fact that cities are shit. The inside of buildings does not reflect the aesthetic, the countryside does not reflect it, the surrounding technology (eg. cars, weapons, roads) does not reflect it, the surrounding characters and events do not reflect it. The only thing is that a city has some buildings that look like they could be in Eastern Europe at the start and that's kind of it. That is not a slavic aesthetic, it's a singular level with slav-looking architecture (and only the outsides of buildings, road design and the actual insides of them are neglected) and then a couple of broken down buildings randomly scattered around that could be fucking anywhere.
912c5b No.15567831
I like Half Life 2 for a few things, but the gameplay is definitely not one of them, and I'll readily admit that it's not really a great game on its own. The main thing I like is the atmosphere it builds - this is aided by the score and audio, which make everything feel desolate and barren. The overall story isn't anything amazing, but I'm a sucker for anything dystopian. Thus, the combination of dystopian + atmosphere makes for a pretty unique setting I don't see in other games. STALKER comes close, but it's less dystopian.
The most disappointing thing is all of the scrapped ideas and concepts they had for Half Life 2, where it was oozing with charm and atmosphere. And probably better gameplay. Honestly there's a lot of concepts from Half Life 2 in general I'd like to see somebody take and make a spiritual successor. However, they'd need to actually do something with it rather than making a boring linear shooter. Something like an open world survival game, but with the whole "dystopian, alien overlord" thing of Half Life 2 and no shitty godawful minecraft-tier bullshit "crafting" or "you can remove ANYTHING in the world!"
b9a687 No.15567834
>>15534293
Shills only push HL2 because they want the White man to miscegenate with mulatto women.
b9a687 No.15567837
>>15534394
>>it’s a aesthetic
it’s an aesthetic
912c5b No.15567845
>>15567834
Are half black, half asians considered "mulatto"? I thought that was only white/black mix. I always thought Alyx looked dumb as fuck in the final game, though. Again, the beta had more charm although she's basically a more feminine Ed from Cowboy Bebop
42abc0 No.15567905
>>15567831
I hate this guy's art style and his obsession with razor thin pipes jutting out everywhere. It looks like the remnants that hold together a model kit. Crappy plastic world.
3d4106 No.15568496
>>15567905
Are you talking about the scaffolding in the workstations pic or the towers? The first kinda fits the combine indifference theme, but you're spot on with the towers.
359141 No.15568536
>>15534293
Is that half life 1 remake done / any good?
1cefad No.15568551
>>15568536
It's a bad Half-Life but an okay game on its own.
b41edc No.15568553
>>15567845
They're blasians.
ec355d No.15568636
>nu-/v/ doesn't like HL2
What happened? Seriously, what the fuck happened?
89c523 No.15568642
>>15536776
halo2 is much better than hl2… hl2 is fucking boring cinematic shit. atleast halo2 is fast, has fun/interesting weapons, and a hell of alot more content and challenge.
12eeb1 No.15568689
>>15568636
Cancer happend.
89c523 No.15568691
>>15568636
hello newfriend. are you confusing your time on leddit with your brief time here?
what part of hl2 do you think /v/ liked? the unskippable cutscenes? the long dialogue scenes that lock you in a room until youre allowed to leave? the long periods of inactivity? the tiny/boring weapon variety? the seesaw physics puzzles? the other simple puzzles?
89c523 No.15568771
>>15568731
>8ch
>2004
oh, youre confusing this place with cuckchan. maybe you should go back you massive faggot.
4c3620 No.15568817
>>15568771
Kids these days. No respect for their elders.
4e2a2f No.15568881
>>15535296
>>15534473
There's strange comfort in post-soviet aesthetic, highly melancholic but soothing, that HL2 managed to captivate very well despite being made mostly by a bunch of Americans. It's a thing, and I myself cannot describe. Actually, for me it may be just nostalgia as that's the environment I grew up in, but seeing people on the west develop sympathy to such seemingly dreary life makes me wonder if there's way more to it. It's just a guess but I feel like people find this aesthethic appealing as it's all about finding comfort and enjoyment in a simple life where all illusions are dispelled. The apartment may be old and poor, the future without promises and existence hard and meaningless, yet the slav still manages to find comfort in an old copy of HOMM3 and a bottle of booze.
>>15534488
You don't get it. That's on point too. That feeling of unfulfillment every HL fan has is perfectly mirroring modern Slavic emotional outlook. Lied to by socialist government. Lied to by current politicians. Promised heaven on Earth and kabanosy for free, yet forever stuck in this strange transitory space between developed and third world.
>>15568636
Disillusionment in Valve led to more cold outlook towards most of it's properties. Of course there are still people who are fond of HL series and it's contributions to FPS genre, and probably still playing it's mods to this day. It may not be universally loved, but it's still fondly remembered by some, and that's nice if you ask me.
64554d No.15569098
I unironically had more fun with Duke Nuke 'em Forever than HL2.
452986 No.15569266
>>15567801
I've had way too many discussions about HL2 before, especially in comparison to F.E.A.R. when it comes to AI, effects, physics, etc. I liked the game most when modded with SMOD (be it Redux, Tactical or Outbreak), you can actually make a half-decent experience out of it then.
34cb36 No.15569348
I still enjoy it every now and again, the sense of adventure, sound effects, sound design
all superficial shit which i usually don't care for but hl2 gets that shit right for me
also didn't mind the gunplay too much, it's kinda shit but servicable
fa2501 No.15569721
>>15568636
Cuckchan had some downtime recently which brought a lot of kiddies in.
>>15568691
>what part of hl2 do you think /v/ liked? the unskippable cutscenes? the long dialogue scenes that lock you in a room until youre allowed to leave? the long periods of inactivity?
You literally just said the same thing three times in a row. Please go back to reddit.
1e9a10 No.15569767
>Half Life 2 is shit
Pretty much.
>Guns look, feel and sound like shit
>Most enemies are boring as shit save for the Zombies and Manhacks
>Unfinished game with a lot of scrapped assets
>Bland, washed out graphics that make gameplay a fucking borefest, as if the wave of brownbloom games of its era wasn't enough
>Retarded AI that just beelines to you when you're spotted (and won't shoot you at all if you grab any object and hold it in front of you so they can't make eye contact, I'm not kidding)
The engine was good for all the mods and games that came out of it, but HL2 itself was just a shitty tech demo and nothing more. I'm amazed so many people like this trash. The only thing I can recall being decent was the characters and the Ravenholm level, but Half Life 1 is superior in every way.
3c6db8 No.15569930
>watershed game
>important piece of gaming history
>nope, doesn't matter
>the antifa of video games say it's shit
Doom 3 and Half-Life 2 are very important games, they pushed a level of visual fidelity, performance and technology that did not exist at the time that they came out. Doom 3 is the only game to ever truly mimic shadows with 100% accuracy, and instead of being properly respected for that fucking plebs like you were too busy shitting on it because it wasn't run and gun or just like Half-Life 2. Suddenly Half-Life 2 is the new target of historical revisionism. Is Unreal and Half-Life going to be next? When will you target Doom?
Go fuck yourselves you bunch of fucking cunts, you don't go full fucking retard.
bd3223 No.15570781
>>15569930
Counter sage, nigger faggot.
>the antifa of video games say it's shit
Nigger who?
>they pushed a level of visual fidelity,
And lowered the level of game play and pacing
>performance and technology
If think the physics shit was groundbreaking, there were already games that let play with physics far before HL2. I guess you mean the unskippable cutscenes that kill replayability.
>Doom 3 is the only game to ever truly mimic shadows with 100% accuracy, and instead of being properly respected
Because it too was a boring, overhyped tech demo with dogshit weapons, slow ass gameplay, and monster closets that everyone was tired of by 2004. People have hated Doom 3 since its release, you underage faggot.
>Suddenly Half-Life 2 is the new target of historical revisionism.
Probably because people have realized it ruined FPS games for the last 10 years.
>Is Unreal and Half-Life going to be next?
Lots of people have ire with HL1, and anyone with a fucking brain stem knows that outside of its engine and the original Unreal Tournament, the original campaign in Unreal was a fucking boring bog standard 90s FPS.
>Go fuck yourselves you bunch of fucking cunts, you don't go full fucking retard.
Pot, kettle, etc.
b4b0ce No.15571118
That's not hardly a new or unpopular opinion though.
>No cutscenes
Bullshit.
>sv_cheats 1; bind "x" "host_timescale 20"; bind "c" "host_timescale 1"
>it's still this long
>>15534385
>>15534879
>>15556553
>>15547656
Like clockwork
>>15564891
It still has better gameplay and good multiplayer though.
>>15568636
>not liking hl2 is nu-/v/
>>15568771
>being this new
>>15534537
>you can't like both anime and slavic shitholes
I think you need to get your head checked, comrade.
f94b61 No.15571726
>>15569930
>Doom 3
>important
3d4106 No.15572047
>>15571726
Top be fair, the lighting was something else.
636aae No.15572059
de4887 No.15572362
i like the music and the gameplay is tighter than halo aka 'press rt to win'
62c5c6 No.15572411
>The same people who shit on Half Life 2 are the same people sucking off Halo 2 which has even bigger flaws an an even shittier sequel
That's all one really needs to know honestly.
b9a687 No.15576133
>>15534293
>>log into steam today to see this
Valve is also kill.
6b60cf No.15576205
>>15535467
>You had to play it at the time
Reminder that Crysis came out 3 years later.
36f594 No.15576342
>>15572411
Your attempt to deflect doesn't change the fact that HL2 is an objectively bad game that made many cancerous things like unskippable not-cutscenes popular.
4d9e83 No.15576393
>>15534293
Half-life 2 is a good game.
de4887 No.15576397
>>15572411
>halo 2's sequel was shittier than halo 2
No. The music was much better in the 3rd and final halo game.
793643 No.15576427
>>15576342
It's not fair to judge a piece of entertainment for what it led to. By that logic, The Twilight Zone is terrible because of all the bad clones and the amount of shows that lazily stole its plots.
That's not saying anything of HL2's actual quality. The gunplay is trash and some of the enemies are complete damage sponges like the Striders.
EP 1 and 2 were way better.
3d4106 No.15578797
>>15576427
HL2 didn't lead to unskippable cutscenes. Those were already all over the place. If anything, they shortened their own (I agree you should have been able to leave through a door though). HL2 has aged like milk and it was never on the same level as the original, but it was fun.
I wasn't around chans at the time, so I ask oldfags: was the game praised around these parts at the time? Are you just being fashionable with the hate? Or were these opinions yours from the beginning?
bd1950 No.15584795
>>15576133
Valve has been dead for years.
67e01b No.15584802
>>15572411
>game from 2004 is bad guys it just doesn't hold up in retrospect
>yeah but this other game from 2004 is still pretty great, maybe we memed the wrong on as "one of the greatest games of all time"
HL2 fags are so insecure