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>>15531948

The combat gets more unique once you start ki pulsing, switching stances, and unlocking more moves. I mainly used the katana versatile and kusarigama op both of which were fun. I'm pretty sure there is a level cap, but that's only for when all your stats are capped out. I want them to make really high quality environments and enemies in Nioh 2.

>>15531988

>katana and kusarigama

That's what I started out with. I'm still figuring out the stances and why I should switch between them instead of staying on mid-stance all the time.

>>15531948

>How does leveling up work in Nioh, is there a level cap?

Stats are mainly for what weapons/techniques/stuff you can equip or are able to use, and there are a bunch of NG+ modes and extra difficulties/modifiers so don't worry about capping out since you'll eventually get there as you keep playing. Your armor and weapons have levels of their own and that'll be your primary method of progression. The weapons are mostly balanced but the Kusarigama was added later in the game's development lifecycle and it has great reach weighed against attack speed and damage. Katana is your best bet for when you're learning the game because it's middle-of-the-road.

>>15532009

The stances not only change your attack movesets but also how you fight defensively; it changes how your blocks and dodges work for each stance.

All in all Nioh is a wild ride that does so many things so right it sets a new standard for soulsborne games, and it puts DS3 which came out a few months before it to absolute shame.

>>15532009

Read the description of flux again, watch the demo video, then try it out on low level missions.

Ki pulse/flux is essential to mastering the combat, and getting the most out of it.

Also, it just feels damn good to do a mid stance combo, flux into low stance, do a heavy combo, flux again into high stance, and use a skill like quadrisect or quickdraw.

>what do you guys want from Nioh 2

The same combat but with actual good content instead of the half assed garbage we got

>>15532009

Once you unlock them switching stances lets you use more special moves. Switching stances also gives you access to different moves, and that is an essential if you want to play better. Swing vertically if you're in a tight hall. Swing horizontally if you're surrounded. Kick a yokai to deplete their stamina. Use strong knock back to throw people off cliffs. Use a fast low stance attack if you don't have much of an opening. Go all in with high stance if you deplete someone's stamina. There's a best move to use in every situation, and that is determined by who you're fighting, the environment, and how much of an opening you have to attack. You'd have to find something really over powered to be the best in any variation of those three factors. Like the other anon said there are also different properties on the stances themselves. You don't want to get caught blocking an axe/hammer in low stance instead go mid. You don't want to roll around a lot in high stance instead go low. You don't want to attack someone's guard with low you'll be deflected instead go high and you can hit them like normal. Combat is more rewarding if you branch out on which moves you're using.

>戦国死にゲー” 『仁王２』始動！

>Sengoku era dying game Nioh 2 announcement!

Guess this means Nioh 2 will be a prequel or side story and not Meiji/Satsuma rebellion era whackyness.

That's unfortunate because Satsuma rebellion is exactly the right time period for effective sword and gun combos. You have have mostly percussion cap guns surplussed from the rest of the world, some cartridge revolvers and the rare (end-game) Remington rolling block (Japan had a few at this point in 12.17x42mm RF) and pistol caliber lever action rifle.

>>15532320

I remember some anon talking about the horns MC gets pierced with in the trailer could be referential to Nobunaga taking the arrow from his neck and wearing it like horns.

If it does end up being the rise of Nobunaga, I would be fine with that. Although, It would be nice to see the game story continue until Hideyoshi's death.

I still think Nanbokucho or Kamakura period would have been good, but the suker punch game removes the option of mongol invasions for some time, if not forever.

>>15531948

Man I love this game combat mechanics but I absolutely hate randomized loot and weapon tweaking shenanigans.

>>15532029

>>15532022

>>15532118

Alright, thanks for explaining. I did have to look a couple times to see what Ki-pulse was actually doing.

Is it possible to switch around weapons mid game or will you lack the skill points to use varied weapon sets effectively until NG+ or something?

>>15532422

I don't mind the loot part, but stats and leaving the door open for min-maxing always tickles my autism in a bad way because I always feel like I have to get it right from the start or else I'll miss out on something. I prefer to have fixed stats and focus entirely on gameplay so I don't have to worry about it. That's more of a personal quirk though.

>>15532453

You can switch mid game, no problem. Those books of reincarnation are purchasable at the shop, and in WotD up, they become mission rewards.

But your first playthrough, you may come across four or five in the wild and not in the shop.

>what do you guys want from Nioh 2

Western Weapons that aren't just a reskin of a samurai blade. Additionally I'd like to see something like a Spartain or Viking mythology clashing with the Japanese mythology.

>>15532377

>but the sucker punch game removes the option of mongol invasions for some time, if not forever.

If Nioh 2 was set during the Mongol invasions, it would work well to contrast just terrible Ghosts of Tsushima will be.

>>15532538

>Additionally I'd like to see something like a Spartain or Viking mythology clashing with the Japanese mythology.

I really hope that's bait.

I liked the story but they should've considered adding a lexicon of some sort to the game, because most monsters and characters in the game all had connection to Japanese history and mythology, something i got aware of halfway through and had to use the internet to look up.

However, the game was fine and fun, most fun i've had with a new game in a couple of years. Some bosses however can be dick-hard, especially if you do not use cheese-tactics.

>>15533221

>I really hope that's bait.

it would genuinely be cool if nioh 2 devolved into a psychedelic hellscape towards the end where the angels and demons of buddhism went all out.

>whole game is dark souls rip off

<kill final boss

<asura are pissed

<endgame sequence goes full asuras wrath and you get to punch the king of hell in the face

What the game really needs is more enemy variety with more unique mechanics and less reskins

Also I'd really enjoy it if it was open world, or at least the stages was more like episodes with large maps (for example if each region of the last game was a single map), but I really doubt it's gonna happen. This may interfere a bit with the replaying of missions, but they could go around it - for example if you beat the boss of an area you can do a mission in a walled of version of it..

>>15534637

Wish there was a codex collection for all of those spirit memory audios you'd get on your first playthrough that tells the background of the level.

>>15534650

And maybe Ninja Gaiden-levels of vertical combat, fuck that Hayabusa nigger boss.

Go with what weapons you feel like. My first playthrough was primarily axes with odachi and katana as secondary weapons. Going to focus on spears, katanas and kurasigamas my next one.

I'd like Nioh 2 to cut out the fluff and filler, the grinding and farming. Too many missions, too many repeat areas, too many repeat areas. This would all be fine but the game is pretty long with a heap of content (can be a good thing), but there is such a thing as too much of a good thing. Hopefully Nioh 2 learns from the mistakes of Nioh 1 and fixes them all. More enemies, more variety in their attacks perhaps, more locales (as much as you can in Japan). I'm assuming Yokai forms take the place of spirit animals or perhaps they're going to really crazy and let you have both.

>>15531948

>what do you guys want from Nioh 2

reworking the terrible floating heads that stunlock you into room corners without actually attacking

Wheelmonks don't bother me, but those guys are so annoying

Also, more weapon variety and less cookie cutter armor of

>does X more points of damage or protection

>>15532320

shame they didn't do something like fucking around in south/central america looking for amrita

>>15532022

>it puts DS3 to shame

not really surprising, both Nioh and the Surge were head and shoulders above DS3 in terms of combat which ends up being the meat of this genre

>>15535393

the core of the story is semi-true

There was an english sailor who crashed in Japan and became a samurai and advisor to Ieyasu

>>15535393

>>15535409

>Irish

>English

IRL he was Dutch, actually

>>15535457

naw he was english, but was working for the dutch

>>15534637

is there some site where can I read all of those?

>>15535393

>>15535409

>>15535457

Japs have a thing for the Irish since they're also an island civilization but are more spiritual than the soulless anglos.

>>15535591

Anglos are only recently soulless. Recently in the half millenia sense.

I blame the 1400s.

>>15535603

I blame the normans taking over during roman britannica

>>15535108

Yeah, I'm thinking I'll switch out the chain-and-sickle for tonfas. They feel nice.

Are there really that many re-used areas?

>>15536706

Areas get reused for sub missions, but they enemy placement and shrine placement will change. Main missions will always be new stages, and there sre a handful of sub missions which use areas of maps that were previously unaccessible, or a new map entirely.

Here's a pro tip: Tonfas suck ass. The combos are fun and look good, but the damage output can't really compare to other weapons. The only exception being if you gear your set bonuses for tonfa gun.

>>15531948

>Also. what do you guys want from Nioh 2

Yokai forms. Have an entire playstyle centered around maximizing demon forms and using their different moves. maybe make it so you have to choose between LW or Yokai transformations at the beginning of the game.

>>15536706

>for tonfas

naw, do dual swords and curb stomp the rest of the game

>>15537361

>needing dual swords to curb stomp the game

Unless you're playing on way of the nioh you could just do bare fists and still beat the game easily.

>>15537396

>Tonfas suck ass.

That's what I thought at first too but I had a great deal of success beating the shit out of everything with the anti youkai tonfa. You can stunlock the shit out of everything with them. This was WotW too.

>>15537396

The gun-tonfa are very fun if you can get your hands on them before the DLC, the tonfa combo-finisher skills will fire the tonfa cannons as part of the attack.

>>15537140

Tonfas have lower HP damage than other weapons but higher Ki damage, more mobility, and Demon Dance + Kannagi. Those two skills give you i-frames when you Ki pulse and let you animation cancel any skill attack by Ki pulsing. Their damage is lower than other weapons because they allow you to play incredibly aggressively.

>>15537469

>the tonfa combo-finisher skills will fire the tonfa cannons as part of the attack.

That sounds cool as fuck. Are gun-tonfas a late-game weapon?

I'm definitely gonna stick with tonfas for now. Staggering enemies is also much easier with them so I think I'll live with damage reductions.

>>15538974

Only one tonfa in the game has Gun Tonfa as a guaranteed effect, Sarutobi's Gunsticks, and Gun Tonfa won't show up as a random effect outside of the Abyss. The earliest point the Gunsticks can drop is from the boss of the first mission of the second DLC, so quite late in NG. The Gun Tonfa effect also only works with Crimson Lotus and Devastation; the "thrust" finishers. It's very cool.

>>15538974

tonfa is overall a very weak weapon though, so be prepared for that. Seriously the dps is the lowest in the game bar none

>>15541316

Axes are not too slow. I played most of the game with them. Just take it easy, there is no timer to beat her. Pick your attacks and ki pulse in her realm.

>>15541557

Yeah, I eventually got her. I switched to dual katanas and dodged until I could land a few quick hits and get out again.

Also I can see now what the other guy meant with the re-used areas after doing a few side-missions. It could get stale fast if the missions aren't interesting.

>>15541316

Tonfas don't fall off, they never start. That aside though axes just take a much slower playstyle, and don't really boast the damage that makes it worth it on bosses, they will ruin normal enemies though. any double weapon (tonfas/2kat) both have bad dps but are more reliant on being able to dodge and find smaller openings (except for one move on the 2kat that does good damage, but is a hilarious crutch). Kuri is the god king of DPS, Spear is living weapon's wet dream, and 1kat is good for basically anything.

Pure ninjutsu is a valid way to play once you get some items. Omnyo is used mainly for buffing, avoid sloth talismans though because they're a massive crutch that's only going to hurt you later.

>>15543042

>Also I can see now what the other guy meant with the re-used areas after doing a few side-missions. It could get stale fast if the missions aren't interesting.

Fortunately many of the reused areas are some of the nicest looking places in the entire game.