ad3b48 No.15527575
Which games have aged like shit, and what current/modern games do you think will looked back on with utter indifference?
GTA III has aged absolutely awfully when compared to its sequels. The game can beaten in under 3 hours by a professional speedrunner, and in just over 1 hour if a game-breaking glitch is used to jump to the second island. Even V, a game criticized for its lack of missions cannot be physically beaten in any time less than 6 hours. 100% takes around 5 hours for III, and precisely double that for V.
Almost all the content is lacking. The only songs most people would recognize are the handful of 80s rock songs on Flashback FM. There are very few vehicles, less than 50 which is pitiful compared to San Andreas' 200+. There are few minigames and fewer deviations from the main storyline.
Vice City didn't just succeed III, it made it obsolete. Hell, the best way to play III is by using the Total Conversion made for Vice City. That way you can ride motorcycles and fly aircraft at the very least.
709553 No.15527597
Any game that you can't get into because you crave the embrace of the Jew.
d72e49 No.15527603
I'll still take GTA III over V because it's at least fun, has a memorable map and was groundbreaking at the time. V had not only so few missions, they were mostly gimmicky, the map sucked and the gameplay mechanics like driving and shooting are unsatisfying.
69f13c No.15527606
aging is a meme
It just lacks the improvements that later titles got and does things a different way (popular at the time - doesn't mean bad, just different)
When gta 3 came out everyone at my school was creaming all over it.
Which, no matter what, means its a great game. Games released later have better graphics, are bigger, have more content, more songs etc etc.that's obvious, what do you expect.
You have to take and play a game with mindset like its brand new, just released. Compare it to older games already released, not the ones that were released later, especially from the same IP.
d72e49 No.15527615
>>15527606
Nah, gameplay mechanics can still age even when a game is otherwise good specifically because you think "why didn't they think of this mechanic before?". GTA III and VC for instance have rather horrid onfoot controls where the devs barely had any idea what a right stick is.
665907 No.15527620
>The game can beaten in under 3 hours by a professional speedrunner, and in just over 1 hour if a game-breaking glitch is used to jump to the second island.
So fucking what? Most people don't play like that.
>There are very few vehicles, less than 50 which is pitiful compared to San Andreas' 200+
The game is older you retard.
>There are few minigames
You can just fire up GTA: Bowling if you want to play bowling.
III was shit compared to VC but the devs were still learning what worked and for the time it was pretty fucking good.
058f81 No.15527621
"Aging" is an industry term cooked up by marketers to excuse to why people prefer games made decades before their garbage. A game doesn't age, it is merely surpassed.
37f536 No.15527624
>Game that aged badly
>This games sequels did everything it did but better so it's bad
Go fuck yourself.
69f13c No.15527632
>>15527615
We already used mouse and keyboard when gta 3 came out.
You can argue ultima underworld has pretty poor controls, but you can easily get used to them after a few minutes. gta 3 is fine. compare it with tomb raider for example, the worst control's I've ever witnessed in a video game
d72e49 No.15527641
>>15527632
I forgot to mention that PC controlls were marginally better, but the gunplay was still crap in those. Mainly because you couldn't have your gun aimed at will, there was a delay before Claude/Tommy started firing (which made the auto shotgun in VC nearly useless).
ccbd8b No.15527642
>>15527621
Yes and no. You can't stop innovation, even a fucking shitty little $50 """smartphone""" from Wal-Mart has more processing power then a PC that came out in 2001. That's retardedly remarkable. Many old games are just empty compared to all the stupid shit they throw into games today. You can't deny reality, although you can try
69f13c No.15527656
>>15527641
Yeah, and that's because these games are not perfects. these are flaws that existed when the games were released and flaws people bitched about 15+ years ago too.
b5ae4f No.15527676
>>15527575
That is the most autistic and nonsensical argument I've ever read.
4da3c5 No.15527679
>>15527575
>remember GTA 3 as the game that changed everything
>my dad had it on PC when I was little
>played it as a kid
>recently reminded of it
>fire up my PS2 and play it
>drive in car
>cars can sustain virtually no damage before lighting on fire
>no swimming whatsover
>graphics are ugly
Yeah it's a classic and innovative game but it plays like garbage now. I mean I grew up with it and I don't have that much fun replaying it
b98191 No.15527695
Every top-down CRPG.
All post 2010 AAA games.
245cfa No.15527722
I've found that there is a lot to be learned from older games on what is core to a good game as an aspiring developer. The original Asteroids/Joust/Centipede/Space Invaders etc. on Atari have simplistic sound and barely any graphics but can still entertain me to this day for at least a little while. I think games that age poorly weren't that good to begin with. Players matured and their tastes grew in complexity but the games stayed the same and all that happened was the bad gameplay and bad story telling was exposed.
80f454 No.15527724
>professional
>speedrunner
709553 No.15527760
>>15527642
You just explained why modern games are usually worse though. They're chock full of tons of stupid shit. Combine that with corporate streamlining, strict time restraints, restrictive budgets that prioritize marketing and the ever-dwindling standards of quality and you see how modern devs do nothing with a whole lot, while devs from 10 or more years ago did much more with less.
000000 No.15527772
>>15527624
It's not "bad", it's "aged badly".
There is a big difference.
0472d8 No.15527800
IF IT'S NEW, IT'S BETTER! NO QUESTIONS ASKED
0472d8 No.15527805
487aa3 No.15527827
>>15527575
>Game can be spedrun quickly
>this means it's bad
88359e No.15527836
>>15527575
nigga GTA 3 didn't age, you literally said in your post
>Vice City… made it obsolete
Games don't grow old so much as they are rendered obsolete by other games that refined the various elements of the game into something better, much like *literally every other thing people have made*
3a5ca3 No.15527849
>>15527575
>A game is old and aged and outdated therefore its bad
Shit, I better tell everyone in the Doom general to start playing NuDoom.
ad923f No.15527861
Rome Total war has aged quite poorly compared to Medieval 2
35df11 No.15527957
Still play and love this one. the art style is classic and ageless
7a108b No.15527967
>>15527827
morrowind is bad, but not because it's easily exploited.
665907 No.15527998
>>15527957
That reminds me of adding too much salt into all food in Theme Park so the goyim would buy more overpriced drinks.
471e38 No.15528002
d75599 No.15528012
Anyone remember this bargain bin ((($20 New))) game? It aged well, but it still feels like a demo with 3 different hack n' slash dungeons that go down to level 99+ in addition to a final boss.
36ee54 No.15528017
>>15527800
kill yourself no questions asked
50198b No.15528114
I want your mind, OP. It would reduce my backlog substantially and I can spend my money on other things
0472d8 No.15528119
>>15527575
Many modern games are currently shit, OP.
79b099 No.15528174
>>15527603
The radio is 50% of a GTA game. Every 3D era game had a great story with great gameplay and amazingly written radio. The HD has shit story and shittier radio.
adf833 No.15528178
>>15527606
>only games from 100 years ago are good
fuck off, fedora.
79b099 No.15528192
>>15527967
Fellate a shotgun, faggots like you are the reason game quality has declined so much. "Waaaaah dis game too hard! Baby need him quality of life improvements! Hold my hand daddy, deez games are too hard and scary!"
6e9ea3 No.15528197
>>15527575
>Playing GTA for the story or completion
You're doing it wrong you faggot, it's a sandbox-game. GTA 3 is still the most fun GTA-game to dick around in, before they went "serious" and needed mature storylines ripped from popular tv-shows. Dicking around in GTA 4-5 isn't as fun, hence why they suck.
The graphics however, has aged like milk. Especially true for Vice City that's uglier than a britbong girl on holiday.
d72e49 No.15528201
>>15528174
I hate how it became shallow wannabe South Park shit. Period parodies like VC and SA are time tested, III did have references to then-current events (e.g. the dot com boom) but it was done much funnier.
d192e8 No.15528208
>>15527967
>morrowind is bad
I'm curious about your reasoning. Is it going to be the "I can't understand statistics and managing my fatigue so I can't hit anything because I just keep swinging and running, draining my fatigue like a retard" argument or the "I can't figure out where to go because I can't process information that I have to read, because reading is hard, man" argument? Or something entirely different?
adf833 No.15528213
>>15527575
pretty much everything before 2003-ish because the technology before that is so primitive, and 2003 is generous.
Morrowind is unplayable now because of how dated the mechanics are, especially compared to Oblivion and Skyrim.
sorry /v/ fedoras.
0472d8 No.15528222
>>15528178
It's not about new or old, but how people critically think about their games and their gameplay. Muh graphics and muh new is a stupid meme. The biggest prejudice with nu-males is that anything newer is just automatically better.
6e9ea3 No.15528228
>>15528213
I'm taking the bait but whatever, find me a game with a better sound-engine than Thief.
adf833 No.15528229
>>15528222
>technology is irrelevant for videogames
then go back to reading books and playing boardgames, /v/ fedora.
3c7db2 No.15528240
>>15528229
You talk like a complete imbecile.
2ce256 No.15528250
>>15528240
Well congratulations you got yourself caught. Now what's the next step of your master plan?
adf833 No.15528253
>>15528240
>"UR DUMB"
sage negated :^)
79b099 No.15528307
>>15528213
>Trying this hard to be a contrarian
b5ae4f No.15528324
>>15528307
Morrowind is a bad game.
6e1ab5 No.15528353
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>>15528307
>your weapons can miss
>despite the animation showing it fucking hit
You're not getting away with that
79b099 No.15528361
>>15528353
So "I can't understand statistics and managing my fatigue so I can't hit anything because I just keep swinging and running, draining my fatigue like a retard" it is.
48e4ff No.15528369
>>15528361
That's not really explaining a hit you can visually confirm counting as a miss though.
1d02c6 No.15528387
While OP is a faggot one and gone, thread has also became full of people that try to prove their statements the same way - with a non-sequitur, to the point where OP has actually expressed comparatively to the thread quality - a pretty reasonable opinion.
>>15527606
>You have to take and play a game with mindset like its brand new, just released.
>Compare it to older games already released, not the ones that were released later, especially from the same IP.
This is a double standard and potentially a hypocrisy or disingenuousness.
If your point is that a game should be be viewed as it's own, separate from any context but pure enjoyment, thing - then comparing it with anything is equally counterproductive.
If your point is that aging is a meme, then you haven't made a point about any significant difference between comparing in opposite directions. In fact, you do both equally frequently regardless if you focus on the fact that you are comparing games or not - when you are playing shitty newer games - you compare them with better older games, when you play shitty older games - you are comparing them with better newer games.
>>15527760
The fact that modern devs are less effective in their job and don't have to jump through as many hoops as old devs did - is in no way related to gamemechanics ability or inability to evolve.
>>15527621
In the context of history aging and surpassing are the same fucking thing. Even if you were arguing semantics "information can't literally age" it still wouldn't work, since information does have a lifespan defined by its relevancy, the moment it becomes irrelevant the information withers away until it's completely gone from all the records and has to be born a second time. And those terms are being used interchangeably outside of gaming.
79b099 No.15528389
>>15528369
The only issue is Gamebryo's shitty animation engine. They should have created animations for misses, but they were too lazy. It's a moot point considering despite this Morrowind is still far superior to Oblivion and Skyrim.
bca6dc No.15528393
>>15528213
>pretty much everything before 2003-ish because the technology before that is so primitive, and 2003 is generous.
Any game made today could have been made in 2003 with worse graphics. It has nothing to do with technology.
a70e8d No.15528395
>>15528387
The fuck is wrong with one and done if the discussion sparks among anons and thread reaches 500+ posts?
0472d8 No.15528415
>>15528393
What part of "new" = "better" don't you understand, anon?
709553 No.15528422
>>15528415
ebin thumbnail famalam
*tips trilby*
d75599 No.15528441
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>>15528353
<Morrowind Shitposting Thread ?!
1d02c6 No.15528444
>>15528395
Because it's no effort no responsibility kind of ordeal, and a mere fact that one can create a thread that'll reach bumplimit is no respectable feat by itself to the point where it is pathetic to even bring that up in any kind of conversation.
To put in simpler terms, if you are interested in the topic you engage in conversation about the thing you want to discuss.
If you are interested in some shitty internet cred you create a template thread filled to the brim with bait and then brag about how you've been helpful by "creating an interesting discussion on teh interwebz".
adf833 No.15528484
>>15528393
>videogames have nothing to do with technology, graphics are meaningless"
then go read a book, /v/ fedora.
bae4ba No.15528599
>>15528353
>its another episode of 'normalfags can't into an in depth skill system'
19f6cc No.15528646
>>15528353
Fuck it, I'm biting the bait
>Me too dumb to understand dice roll based combat durrrrrrr
>Why don't dey have animation of dodging do
I still can't believe I hear this as an unironic complaint. Outside of gamebryo limitations implementing animations of dodging based on player weapons connecting would be hard to implement, it would end up looking awkward or make combat weird and cause problems.
Even in modern rpgs, that's almost impossible to implement, models contorting or twisting to dodge would only serve as an animation problem.
>B-but Kotor had dodging
Yes, but it also had animations that played outside the players control. You can't compare a game that has manual swings to a game that essentially only requires the player to click a single button for your character to weave and dodge and slash.
7bef5c No.15528656
GTA III rules and your a faggot
dff8da No.15528665
Interesting thread topic spoiled by a lot of retardation from both OP and responses in the thread.
Definitely interesting thinking about what might end up aging really badly years from now. I think a lot of these walking sim / movie games are going to suffer in the long run. Sure plenty of people are calling them out on their shit even now but I think even the people who were all too fast to heap a tonne of praise on them are going to realise how unwarranted it was.
5ec967 No.15528671
709553 No.15528679
>>15528361
>>15528369
>>15528599
People fall for it every time.
b5ae4f No.15528695
>>15528192
Morrowind fags are too stupid to realize Morrowind isn't difficult or complicated. They can barely wrap their heads around Morrowind's systems. They're impressed by an extra meter on the screen. The game is designed to make idiots feel smart.
709553 No.15528705
>>15528695
Found Caius yet?
c896f3 No.15528710
The first Pokemon games have aged badly.
b5ae4f No.15528731
>>15528705
Exactly. Morrowind fags think it's an epic quest to find a shirtless HIV positive homosexual because they are illiterate and can't read instructions.
709553 No.15528758
>>15528731
Proof?
Because I spend a good amount of time around the Morrowind fags and consensus seems to be that the game is fairly straightforward and that trolls who can't wrap their heads around it are, therefore, retarded.
3a5ca3 No.15528762
When are you baiting faggots gonna mention Doom?
450796 No.15528769
Games do not "age" like milk or wine. All you are saying when you claim that a game has "aged poorly" is that you were too ignorant to recognize bad design the first time you played it.
19f6cc No.15528807
>>15528731
Anon, he wasn't implying that finding caius is an epic quest, he was implying that YOU are the one that's too retarded for basic instructions.
Aside from that, do you have anything other than baseless broad statements that show you haven't actually played the game?
>>15528769
>It was just bad game design at the time!
I disagree. Being spoiled by newer updated mechanics then going back to an older system and noticing that it's outdated is by definition "aging poorly"
b5ae4f No.15528816
>>15528758
>the game is fairly straightforward
Precisely. They act like it's extremely deep because they've never played an RPG before.
c896f3 No.15528830
>>15528807
>Being spoiled by newer updated mechanics then going back to an older system and noticing that it's outdated is by definition "aging poorly"
I felt like this when I played New Vegas but it's still superior to FO4.
6d7f39 No.15528851
GTA 3 sucks dick compared to the other ones, I agree.
f1f3f3 No.15528864
>>15528002
anything naughtydog ever
867b64 No.15528866
>>15528816
What exactly is your definitely of a deep RPG, Algernon?
216137 No.15528877
>will age badly
Do you even play video games?
6a67b8 No.15528883
>>15528807
>Being spoiled by newer updated mechanics then going back to an older system and noticing that it's outdated is by definition "aging poorly"
But the game didn't change, you did. It is exactly the same digital information, as long as the storage medium doesn't degrade.
When milk or wine ages, there are chemical reactions occurring that make it objectively different.
dff8da No.15528899
>>15528769
>>15528883
>we can never have a thread on this topic without this fucking autism
bfe85b No.15528907
>>15528213
I played and beat Morrowind in a ~60 hour playthrough over 2017 Christmas and enjoyed the shit out of it.
Fun fact: Only plebs can't appreciate a game for it's given time.
If you play Morrowind then play it like the year is 2002. If you play Dungeon Keeper then play it like the year is 1997.
People who play retro games and go, "ugh this is sOoOoOoO dated for a game in 2018" are literally playing retro games wrong.
0f4cab No.15528952
Compared to even other platformers on the same system, Super Mario Bros lacks features and finesse.
e8cfed No.15528970
33b145 No.15528972
>Speedrunnners make a game age badly
What the hell are you smoking? Speedrunners go for a time and skip any possible fun or gameplay. By your shitty standards, any ""game"" with long unskippable cutscenes/walking segments that takes longer to speedrun is a timeless game.
062dd9 No.15529001
>>15528952
Features maybe, but finesse? It's one of the better playing games on the system.
000000 No.15529045
>>15527800
Ooh, that pic is a nice touch. Like linking to ebaumsworld.
6a67b8 No.15529065
>>15528899
Because it's true. You talk about "aging" like it's something the game does, rather than people's perception of the game.
709553 No.15529074
0df52e No.15529080
>>15527606
>When gta 3 came out everyone at my school was creaming all over it.
>Which, no matter what, means its a great game
There's a lot wrong with that sentiment (popular doesn't = great) but I'll not disagree that GTA III was much needed when it came out,.
0df52e No.15529088
>>15527575
>The game can beaten in under 3 hours by a professional speedrunner
This is a very poor metric. Morrowind can be beaten in under 7 mins.
570089 No.15529116
>>15529088
It's worse than that, many games that can't be beaten reasonably quickly by a skilled player are usually that way because they give you no choice or freedom. A lot of bad games will take only slightly faster to speedrun as they will to just play normally with few deaths.
70d2c7 No.15529123
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Only specific aspects of a game can age poorly. For example:
70d2c7 No.15529129
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>>15529123
Other things are timeless, such as:
70d2c7 No.15529141
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>>15529129
And some things were never good in the first place.
3866fb No.15529145
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>>15527603
>>15528201
>>15528174
yeah, I dont get how the radio parodies got so shitty in 5 and how meh they were in 4 considering LCS and VCS are still 3 times as funny, besides the pisswasser commercial which is fucking hilarious (although its making fun of awful american beer commercials from TV that were essentially MURICA-FUCK YEAH without any irony)
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=7LHHKJtnxOg
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=cvEm1ire160
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=oIr-q6O_xyM
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=UfH2mgOnM-k
adf833 No.15529148
>>15528907
>just teleport yourself back to 2002 goyim
nice strawman
adf833 No.15529155
adf833 No.15529157
>>15528907
>he put only 60 hours into Morrowind
thanks for telling us that you're a newfag moron.
709553 No.15529163
>>15529129
Girl is a cute.
>>15529157
I played that game almost daily for almost 2 straight years when it came out.
4da3c5 No.15529178
>>15528415
>maybe if I post a 18kb thumbnail of an old meme I'll fit in!
edcf93 No.15529465
>>15527575
Doom.
Quake.
Quake III.
UT.
487aa3 No.15529479
>>15529001
>It's one of the better playing games on the system
This game begs to differ
6e1ab5 No.15529499
>>15528907
>just pretend there isn't better
Are you willing to play Pac-Man for hours on end? Or perhaps you find it a bit dated as well
f51e4d No.15529511
>III is outdated because it can be speedrunned
So is every other game good or otherwise you fucking nigger.
508fa4 No.15529651
>>15529511
>I can't understand what OP is saying, so I'm going to make a retarded strawman
k.
fb7af7 No.15529810
>>15529651
OP is somehow judging the quality of games by the length of time they take to speedrun. That only proves OP doesn't understand what makes a quality game, nor does he understand how speedruns work.
1b1c03 No.15529832
>>15527606
>aging is a meme
I respectfully disagree, unless the game is just perfect in all categories then what it lacks will stick out more and more. In some cases the limitations at the time the game came out would be unbearable to a new audience like FPS (virtually every N64 game) or utterly insane video game lengths required never mind 100% completion, or a complete lack of any proper sound, insane pixel hunting that was only tolerated and not really that well liked during it's time either, constant repeating patterns which required meticulous trial and error even with graph paper.
On the other hand some average games age like wine where during it's time it was considered so-so but more and more newer players that play it like it and consider it to be a good game. Probably even wonder why it was hated so much.
b4fd9b No.15529921
>>15528361
>>15528389
>>15528599
>>15528646
Morrowindfags. Always the same.
Alwas drooling over that shit game and the "deep" lore. Salivating over how utterly broken and buggy it was (but if other games are buggy it's a crime agaisnt humanity)
There's no use trying to argue with them. They are lost to reason and human decency.
80a88a No.15529927
>>15529065
It's called an expression you autistic fuck.
6a67b8 No.15529930
>>15529832
>what it lacks will stick out more and more
What the game lacks, it lacked back then too. The game did not change.
>during it's time it was considered so-so but more and more newer players that play it like it and consider it to be a good game
The key word is "considered". The difference is only in the minds of the people playing the game.
Stop likening digital information to milk and wine.
19f0ba No.15529944
GTAV has not aged well at all…
at first everyone liked it, but as soon as the reality about it being online, and less of a focus on the world than GTA4 the game became very easy to hate.
1b1c03 No.15529966
>>15529930
>What the game lacks, it lacked back then too
Thanks for repeating what i just said you dip shit. It didn't matter back then obviously, I did not care about the lack of noise the hum of the PC was my ambiance. Now only someone who is exposed to soundless games when they're young could tolerate that shit like me.
>Stop likening digital information to milk and wine.
That's just your autism going off. No matter how many times you repeat the obvious that is not what people talk about when they say a game ages like milk or wine as a metaphor. Movies don't age they remain the same, books don't physically age they remain the same story as it is written, blah blah, yadda yadda that shit doesn't matter. It's clear to anyone when a game, book, or movie was made and that is it's age and it shows.
It's not and has never been comparing chemical properties of milk and wine with data that only an autistic retard would ever care about or even think of when seeing those comparisons.
5b08fe No.15529998
>>15527606
It's a meme only when we're talking about subjective shit like graphical or audio fidelity. Mechanics can age like shit, just look at System Shock 1.
7fa853 No.15530008
Only graphically though. Still plays better than any modern FPS.
6a67b8 No.15530023
>>15529966
Why speak in metaphors at all? What's the point of saying a game "aged like milk" instead of saying it's dated or obsolete or any synonym? What does milk have to do with it?
893411 No.15530028
>>15527575
>gta 3
>games that aged badly
>it's the game I played for the first time 8 months ago and had an absolute blast with, making it one of the best games I played in a while
the fuck are you on, op? This is the second best gta I've played yet, and I only did so recently
3866fb No.15530185
>>15530028
did you mod the shit out of it and try and translate the german read me instructions for maximum mid-2000s gta PC gaming experience?
ebaa52 No.15530199
>>15527606
i disagree, especially with early forays into genres and concepts. they might not know exactly what theyre doing. theres the most room for refinement whether its through execution or different/better hardware. its not always just a factor of "more".
if you could forget everything else and enjoy it as if it were first released sure, but thats not so easy for mere mortals.
3465fe No.15530255
>>15527606
>my school was creaming over it so it’s good
>if normalfags teen cream over a shit game it means it’s good
Can’t wait for the new callofbooty or asscreed WEWUZ Greek
8b5c0d No.15530280
I'm playing through Call of Cthulhu because spoopy month and my fuck did this age horribly
>that gunplay
>that fucking walking speed with no sprint
>the forced stealth
>the health system
>Jack breaking every bone in his body after falling a from a foot sized crate
>Jack getting eviscerated from touching a slime monster
>the entire game being a big puzzle about what you have to do next
>borderline impossible on a first playthrough without a walkthrough
4b199b No.15530442
>>15529921
I prefer "morrowhiner" but yes, it's severely primitive and dated. Oblivion and Skyrim are way better.
1ff8cb No.15530450
>recent games that will age poorly
Borderlands 2
Watch Dogs (it's already not good to start with, but it will become embarassing with age)
Pretentious indie games like Fez and Braid
All mobileshit
Any game on the Wii that uses motion controls
Every Call of Duty after the first Black Ops
Skyrim
Metal Gear Solid 4 (honestly it's better than everyone makes it out to be, but it really hasn't aged great compared to earlier games in the series)
Every AssCreed game
Far Cry 3, 4, and 5
Saints Row 3 and 4
709553 No.15530762
>>15529651
Why are you greentexting your own personal statement?
fc4d44 No.15530865
>>15527606
Games that lack merit outside of their innovations for that era age poorly.L8ke Half-Life 2. Why play that instead of the million other generic shooters that look better today? There isn't really a good reason.
If a game does not hold a good reason to return to it after the passage of time, it aged poorly. Even if a game is uniquely bad, aging isn't its problem.
08a69e No.15530912
Aging is just a meme created by millenial faggots to excuse why they haven't touched a single game older than 2012 so they sell their hipster bullshit game on the premise of being not being sexist, ablist, and racist to the rest of their 30 yo SJW clique.
e68bbc No.15530916
709553 No.15530925
>>15530912
That's one thing. But you're forgetting the Uncharted retards, the Mass Effect retards, the Skyrim and Oblivion retards: all the retards who grew up on dumb games that hold your hand, who can't play a game from before 2004 without mistaking their own ineptitude for a mechanics or UI issue in the game.
45d54a No.15530932
>>15530280
Almost sounds like you want to make this slow-paced detective puzzle game into a just another action FPS game in which you bunny hop like a retard and follow a floating arrow.
That game has loads of problems but you just managed to list only good aspects about the game.
08a69e No.15530982
>>15530925
It makes me kind of glad I grew up with a SNES despite being born 7 years after the console launched, along with more modern stuff like the GBA and Xbox/Xbox 360. It makes me appreciate that most of the "progress" in the gaming industry is just trend-chasing and dumbed down game mechanics, outside of the technology getting better. It seems like a lot of more modern games from formerly dead genres like platformers and RTS games just forget how refined those genres were even in their earlier days.
058f81 No.15531000
The amount of blatant underage and illiteracy in this thread is despicable, and I mean that literally because I bet half of it is from one of those taco bunker boards.
709553 No.15531284
>>15531000
You can't blame spics for being underage when the average South American lifespan before getting macheted to death for stealing a handful of beans is around 19 years.
058f81 No.15531291
>>15531284
>you can't blame spics for being spics
709553 No.15531298
>>15531291
Good point.
Spics need to leave.
f6ac5f No.15531336
>>15530008
I'd say those visuals hold-up fine, maybe the textures, animations, and polygon count aren't so impressive but the level geometry really helps it age better. It hasn't aged any worse than Half-Life 1.
719221 No.15531362
I can't get into morrowind. An "epic journey" is like a fifty foot walk. Someone "stuck in the middle of nowhere" is literally just outside of a town.
It's so small, I can't immerse myself in it anymore. I love everything about morrowind except the game itself.
47c799 No.15531391
There are two things that can make anything age like fish in the sun, politics and current events.
7a108b No.15531407
I don't really think GTA3 is lacking in any way. The game being exploitable isn't a bad thing, and the core content is a ton of fun. There's a lot of missions and plenty of variety too. The songs while much more obscure than later games were iconic and really added to the atmosphere, none felt out of place as a late 90s/early 00's setting.
Vice City offers a totally different experience, but what really hurts Vice City is that despite being made up of so much more water, you still can't swim. Plus if the waves are acting up you can drown while driving a boat. That's fucked up.
709553 No.15531455
>>15531362
The more you explore, the tinier it seems and the less you're compelled to explore. To be fair, you can say the same thing about your irl neighborhood. Have you played TR at all?
d72e49 No.15531508
>>15531407
As great of a game VC was the map was sort of crap compared to LC. People criticise SA for its unused swathes of land but at least those were diverse and atmospheric and had some use in missions, VC was full of these completely empty areas like the huge featureless beach or the airport, or many empty huge backalleys.
709553 No.15531546
>>15531508
>>15531508
SA gave police chases like no other GTA game. Out of the city, onto the highway, off the road and into the woods then back on the highway and into a completely different city.
7a108b No.15531559
>>15531508
You are right about that. When you really add it up, that's like a third of the map that doesn't serve any purpose.
02f76e No.15531567
>>15531407
>>15531508
Most glaring problem with Vice City's map is how damn flat it is.
8c6d16 No.15531585
>>15531508
I think that the problem is not those empty areas but rather the general layout of the map. There is a single road connecting Little Haiti to Downtown, for example, the Downtown itself feels more like a corner with some dead ends than a proper city core and a significant portion of the shoreline is either empty or weirdly jutting out. I'd say that Washington Beach is the best area with its varied architecture, dense road grid, plenty of back alleys, nooks and crannies along with a fair bit of verticality. The rest of the city just doesn't feel as detailed and well-structured.
5ae37f No.15531587
>>15531567
>hating on flat
eaacf1 No.15531599
>>15528012
This is a game only I played.
88ab6e No.15531611
>>15528907
>play Morrowind for the 5th time
>drop it mid-game just like all the other times the moment I reach Vivec
I really like the game up until then, but the moment I start delving into those shitty mega-hubs full of nobodies and fetch quests, I feel like I'd rather die than continue any further. Maybe I am fated to never finish that game
709553 No.15531615
>>15531587
Flat was always very overrated.
eaacf1 No.15531647
02f76e No.15531652
>>15531587
I was imagining some butthurt loli wearing an unbuttoned hawaiian shirt when I typed that.
5ae37f No.15531663
>>15531652
i know, you fucking pedo scum
81ba58 No.15532104
>>15527800
wasted dubs tbh
81ba58 No.15532115
>>15531615
You picked the worst example of big tits to use when singing about their praises.
79b099 No.15532261
>>15529921
>They are lost to reason and human decency
We are reaching levels of hypocrisy never thought possible before! See: >>15528192 (You)
>>15528695
>extra meter on the screen
See: >>15528307
Why aren't you fellating a shotgun yet?
364e0c No.15532393
>>15527621
This. Obsolescent =/= obsolete.
555d37 No.15532435
>>15531615
>arab rape baby
>Egyptian
pick one you shitskin lover
709553 No.15532474
>>15532435
Good breasts are good breasts.
79b099 No.15532483
>>15532474
She literally has nigger tits, anon.
709553 No.15532489
>>15532483
I'm pretty sure they're spic tits.
e90ac3 No.15532549
>>15530879
Same here anon, these posts make me feel like an elder, and I was a kid during the Mega Drive/Snes age which isn't that long ago (just 25 years)
e90ac3 No.15532558
>>15531615
The titties are kinda ugly, but I would suck them dry regardless because I ain't no faggot.
79b099 No.15532665
>>15532489
No, she literally has 100% stereotypical flabby, African, nigger titties.
709553 No.15533061
>>15532665
Those are Mediterranean tits, squishy with the big areolas. Nigger tits point straight down.
Nobody's blaming you for liking men but at least know about your tits before bitching about them.