6469b6 No.15523087
Nu-Blizzard is threatening to shutdown hosting bots for WC3. This is a dire mistake. Hosting bots are able to host on all realms, bridge the already crippled and small community together, and combats hackers/cheaters.
They are destroying their good old games for the sake of making them "newer" when they were already finished products with a loyal fanbase and community of many players. We can't allow Nu-Blizzard to destroy Warcraft 3's multiplayer community and take away the bots. Hosting on WC3 depends on bots and their ability to make hosting easier with commands and hosting apparatus. Also, communities formed around the bot hosting sites and it is easier to communicate there.
Autists are on the Blizzard demand the bots stay. Let's rescue the bots! Tell nu-Blizzard to stop fucking up the best older games! Save the Warcraft 3 multiplayer before it's too late.
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/bnet/12790218/
359950 No.15523115
You can just use third party matchmaking services like everyone else.
6469b6 No.15523121
>>15523115
Don't be a faggot. Most people around the community use the bots for custom games. There are modified community games than just vanilla melee.
359950 No.15523148
>>15523121
>most people
Step outside your walled garden, Blizzard isn't your daddy.
e1156f No.15523154
>>15523087
Haven't read anything for over a year now, but did they even bother to fix direct-connection/hosting issues? because they seem to enjoy fucking up things up, considering you can't host directly in the official battle net servers unless a bot does it for you, but hey, They'll try to fix it after the outcry.
6469b6 No.15523159
>>15523148
What the fuck are you saying? We're just looking to preserve MMH and ENT hosting sites. It is easier for us in the long-run than them fucking it all up.
>>15523154
A bot is better than manually hosting anyways. It allows you to host on ALL realms and has options. It also prevents people from putting cheats on maps/hacking…
000000 No.15523173
>>15523087
Why not mobilize people to kill Blizzard's owners and employees? It is way more productive.
3bde4f No.15523177
6469b6 No.15523181
LISTEN UP, FAGGOTS
Forget manual hosting. We need to preserve the bots. The oldfag community around WC3 already knows the deal. Right now Warcraft 3 custom games host through bots and anyone can them through them if they really wanted to host them. The entire community is already familiar and centered around using hosting bots. If those bots are gone, Nu-Blizzard would have shattered what kept the multiplayer custom games alive.
6469b6 No.15523187
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Warcraft 3 has so many good custom games. The bots need to stay to keep the custom gaming community alive.
ce833b No.15523191
5f3c80 No.15523204
>We can't allow Nu-Blizzard to destroy Warcraft 3's multiplayer community and take away the bots.
Why not? I want WOW dead and the only way that'll happen is if Blizzard fucks enough people that they all ditch it.
6469b6 No.15523216
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>>15523187
Save the fucking playerbase! Save the bots and save custom gaming! That goes to anyone who enjoys old gaming and doesn't like them being touched and revised! We need to put our foot down here before nu-Blizzard kills a wonderful old gaming community.
91f097 No.15523280
>>15523087
The original appearance of bots was the sign of the game dying and tons of people were complaining about this.
Now they want the bots back. Beyond dead I guess.
91f097 No.15523284
>>15523216
>Save the fucking playerbase! Save the bots and save custom gaming!
WC3 is beyond dead at this point. Why are you acting like it has a thriving community ?
12b7aa No.15523287
>>15523280
You don't get it. Manual hosting is cucked. The game is still alive and works fine. We want the bots because it makes hosting better. Anyone can make a bot and look on public lists to see what games are up.
Newfags don't understand that WC3's custom list depends on bots atm.
cb15a1 No.15523298
>>15523284
More importantly why is he replying to himself?
91f097 No.15523310
>>15523287
>You don't get it. Manual hosting is cucked.
You don't get it. Manual hosting was the only way to play the game and people despised bots when they came along, as the community was already too small and empty bot games were not fun.
Whatever you do now it is beyond saving.
42524b No.15523431
>>15523310
>>15523284
>hurr durr WC3, a game that's been around for about 16 years, is dead and it isn't thriving like new games that newfags play
I've played Warcraft 3 for about 11 years. The playerbase is still active and you can fill a hosted game still through bots. It might not be "thriving" like Overwatch and other nu-Blizzard game, but it is full of hidden gems.
>as the community was already too small and empty bots were not fun
You don't get it. People don't care about those bots, the bots that automatically host. People manually hosted through bots and started to like bot-hosting after it proved to be better, more convenient for the community to meet up and communicate on the 3rd party sites, and it made picking out what WC3 maps to host easier with its vast database. Those empty bot lobbies are shitty automatically hosted games. The active playerbase that's been around for years now already hosts and looks on public lists for current games. We use bots and it has advantages 10x better than manually hosting a shitty game…
>whatever you do now
We can do much! You don't know how many good games are worth saving on WC3. There are hidden gem modded games like Natural Selection (a darwninistic game where you plop a species on an island and watch it compete and grow, slowly moving it around), like God's Land (where you play God and watch over players), like Alternative Future (a modern geopolitical game UNLIKE any game out there where it's real-time geopolitical warfare unlike RISK or anything else), EAW (like Victoria II but better), or all of the vastly superior WC3 modded games that the community made and still enjoys. Just because it's not fucking thriving, for a game so old, doesn't mean it's "dead".
767a8c No.15523442
>>15523087
Warcraft 3 was always an entry level RTS anyway. It brought nothing but cancer into the genre.
42524b No.15523450
>>15523442
That's not an argument.
214920 No.15523459
WTF. There were no bots in WC3 when I played it all those years ago.
42524b No.15523467
>>15523459
If you aren't an active WC3 player on the custom list, you won't understand what I'm talking about. But the bots have improved hosting. The current playerbase since 2013 has been using bots.
767a8c No.15523469
>>15523450
It's true though. Kiddies who grew up playing it might be blind to the truth but if you were an actual adult back when it released it was just the usual Blizzard pattern of ripping off better games in the same genre.
42524b No.15523475
>>15523469
Many modded communtiy games are worth saving. I'm not talking about the base game itself.
76db0a No.15523484
I'm afraid there's next to no Warcraft 3 community left, I don't understand Blizzard's obsession to update and refurbish the game this fucking late when it's dead. That game had a good 16 year run but I don't trust nuBlizzard to do anything good.
91f097 No.15523487
>>15523467
>But the bots have improved hosting
Yeah no. They put it on life support, the same way bots did for diablo. They made it a soulless experience.
42524b No.15523490
>>15523484
I'e been hosting the game since last week. You can still fill up a 12-player and even 24-player (overrated) lobby! That's not dead for a 16-year-old game, desu.
42524b No.15523497
>>15523487
Bots aren't soulless. WC3 bots are not Diablo. The custom games are fine with what bots we have. The current community already knows what to do with bots and what bots are just automatic. When's the last time you've actually played WC3 on the custom list?
e51fde No.15523500
76db0a No.15523507
>>15523490
I played it a couple years ago to relive some memories. It's a tiny fraction of what it was, only a small select amount of maps fill up, and I was going to check mmh to see which ones and oh shit nevermind. http://makemehost.com/
It's nothing compared to the wild varied range of shit people hosted back then.
42524b No.15523516
>>15523507
We host Peasantry (a feudal simulator), American Colonization, and many others. The autists who host TDs, DOTA, and other shitty games are shit and remain shit to this day. I don't know what yo mean a "wild varied range of shit". People still do host that, but they aren't always around. Each game usually has a dedicated playerbase around it. Peasantry players usually get together to play peasantry and other players play other games.
5f5309 No.15523521
i always wanted to fuck the female units in warcraft 3. especially dryads, naga sirens and harpies
42524b No.15523528
There's a petition online too. If any autists here are from the current active playerbase, please sign and help keep what small community we still have.
https://www.change.org/p/blizzard-return-hosting-bot-functionality-in-the-next-warcraft-3-patch
42524b No.15523531
>>15523522
Get out of my thread. We're trying to keep nu-Blizzard from fucking up one of Blizzard's decent games.
76db0a No.15523534
>>15523516
Well most maps I joined rarely filled up other than the select few which I forgot the name of, that's all I can say. I used MMH and ENT.
91f097 No.15523538
>>15523497
On a private server - around 3 years ago. On a blizz server - 8 years ago.
42524b No.15523543
>>15523534
The game is old and it depends on what time you come and what game you play. Not all games get all players. At certain times, a game takes a one hour and a half to fill so you have to be fucking patient. And at other times the playerbase for that game is asleep. It depends on which game you host and what lobby you joined. If you joined one of those "automatically hosted" lobbies that is just a random bot… and not someone using a bot… it isn't likely to fill…
76db0a No.15523547
>>15523536
There's manual hosting and LAN outside of BNet, it just gets rid of the great convenience most players use.
6f8681 No.15523555
I feel like the Metaljesus guy is going to pop in the thread at any moment.
1f0893 No.15523561
Is there any official statement I can read on this?
5f5309 No.15523565
>>15523543
>wait 40 minutes for a game to fill
>some asshole takes 9 minutes to load the map
>3 people left while loading because of this
>finally get in to the game
WAITING FOR PLAYERS:
>abacusnigger
AHH MEMORIES
42524b No.15523578
>>15523565
Don't be butthurt. Your bad experience isn't our bad experience.
42524b No.15523589
>>15523582
This is /v/-worthy news. Warcraft 3 is a decent game. I don't care about other Blizzard games and especially nu-Blizzard games.
6d5b9f No.15523609
>>15523578
A WoW customer is an eternal cuck and his game is flawed, both mechanically and inbetween the bed sheets. Why do you torment yourselves with this soon to be dead leper of a game series?
73d565 No.15523611
>>15523442
The entire RTS genre is a joke lol. You play C&C you played em all
42524b No.15523614
5f5309 No.15523627
>>15523578
i was hoping someone would find it funny
76db0a No.15523635
>>15523543
Best fun I had in War3 was with an old Steam group that would host a wide variety of maps. Here's some of the maps I liked for the sake of reminiscing.
a2ed03 No.15523668
>>15523181
>>15523187
>>15523216
YOU FUCKING SHILL KILL YROUSELF ANYONE WHO HAS BEEN AROUND WHEN WC3 WAS STILL BIG KNOWS THAT 10000000 0/12 LOBBIES OF DOTA #ARAM #APAM #KYS #4359843985 KILLED THE WC3 MP
KILL
YOUR
SELF
SHILL
42524b No.15523672
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It's not only DOTA, you retard. There's TAF (the alternative future) and other games. There are casualfags who play DOTA, but then there's people who play the hundreds of other custom games. DOTA isn't the only custom game and is overrated trash.
42524b No.15523677
>>15523668
WC3 right now only uses bots to host custom games. Nobody manually hosts and there's a reason why nobody does.
5f5309 No.15523683
>>15523668
the world revolves around you, so why dont you kill yourself and put us all out of our misery
a42d4e No.15523692
>activism thread
>stickied
You're all just going to piss and moan and hope someone else does something about it. Meanwhile, Blizzard doesn't give a fuck either way because they aren't making money on 15 year old copies of Warcraft 3. They can and will do as they want, and this dependent situation you find yourselves in is your own fault for gobbling their cock in the first place.
42524b No.15523696
>>15523692
Don't be so callous, anon. If you want to take a stand somewhere to keep developers from going back and editing older games that were fine alone, this is a good time to take a stand and act.
fe529b No.15523707
>>15523692
blackpill fags go and stay go
80b4b5 No.15523711
>>15523442
/this
If you don't exclusively play supcom, you're a faggot.
Butthurt redditers in 3
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1
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d84fa6 No.15523720
Has WC3 been decoupled from Battlenet yet, ala Gamespy-reliant games?
42524b No.15523730
>>15523711
Don't judge WC3's custom games as RTS. There are such a variety of games. But the point is we need to stop this kikery of nu-Blizzard going back to old games. It's bad enough they're pumping out these shitty games like Overwatch. It's worse that they're going back to old releases, that were perfectly fine alone and were already finished installments.
42a34a No.15523744
>>15523730
So do anything besides posting pictures of cats and bitching on the internet about it. Your strategy is what got us here in the first place.
141477 No.15523782
Let it die already.
>Using exclamation points
>Using ellipses
Homo.
3d4403 No.15523827
>literally nobody ITT is talking about the actual patch
Here's the patch that everyone's complaining about: https://us.battle.net/forums/en/bnet/topic/20769476896
Blizzard is revamping Battle.net to make it easier to use. You no longer need to forward ports, and the filesharing of maps goes through Blizzards' servers making it significantly faster if you need to transfer it to multiple people. In addition, regardless of which Battle.net server you log into, you can access the custom games of all other servers. A screenshot from hiveworkshop seems to indicate that the new Battle.net also shows the amount of players currently in a lobby.
The bad part of the patch is the "encrypted network traffic" change. It breaks bots, and they'll probably stay broken forever too.
Essentially, Blizzard is trying to replace hosting bots by delivering some of the functionality themselves. The main problem here is that they haven't delivered all the functionality, nor can they, since they are community hosted bots with community managed ban lists and rules. Blizzard has done jack shit in the first 15 years after Warcraft 3, and has recently been pushing out patches to improve it. Many of the changes so far were great improvements, such as increasing the player limit to 24 or fucking finally adding scripting functions for things that should've existed at the very start. This patch has some good stuff, but breaking bots after Blizzard has done fuckall for such a long time is just plain insulting to the modding community. They should be phased out through lack of use, not by deliberately breaking them.
42524b No.15523856
>>15523827
All these ladder players rejoicing but let me be the voice of the custom map community.
You're about to kill warcraft 3 for everyone who plays this game for custom maps.
What these changes will do:
-Make it difficult to fill games up by removing the easy to see game browser on websites such as ENT and Make Me Host.
-Remove bots and all the great functionality they bring, renaming games names, kick, mute, bans, ping checks, stat checks, auto-refresh, all that good stuff that we use on the regular.
-Remove the ability to play older versions of a custom map.
Games will now be harder to find, harder to host, harder to manage, and harder to play. This WILL destroy the custom game community, I promise you.
You have taken a system from Starcraft 2, a game which the custom map community is pretty much dead, and has been since shortly after the game's release. The custom maps for sc2 is a sad sight, most are dead and abandoned, and only about 10 maps get played regularly (most of them just updated copies from war3).
I have been playing Warcraft 3 for many years, its on my top 10 favorite games and probably my top 5 most played games ever. and 95% of my time has been in custom multiplayer games. I appreciate the fact that this team has been working to try and improve on this old game, something that few companies bother to do, go back and update their old games. But what you are doing now is essentially killing a huge portion of your game.
I know I speak for the rest of my fellow custom map players when I say that these changes need to be deleted.
acff8f No.15523867
Didn't Blizzard made it so that you have to be constantly connect to them so they can check if you have a bought copy or digital download?
2bc26b No.15523886
>>15523856
Why didn't you morons migrate to your own hosting several decades ago?
3d4403 No.15523918
>>15523856
I'm not advocating for breaking bots m8. I don't want that to happen either.
But don't pretend the other changes of the patch are irrelevant to the discussion.
>>15523886
Those already exist. In fact, bots can host games that are accessible by both Battle.net and private servers, allowing pirates and legitimate players to easily play together.
This is probably a large part of the reason why Blizzard wants bots gone. Why the fuck do pirates get to play with people on Battle.net?
However, that feature of bots is what makes them so popular. They try to connect as much of the community as possible, making it much easier to get a game going.
88819a No.15523924
Can someone please explain the concept of "bots" to me in terms of WC3? They appear to be some kind of hosting or player-connecting service, yet "bots" usually mean computer controlled players. What are bots in WC3?
76db0a No.15523939
>>15523924
Bots are game hosts that offer better performance, tools and options than regular hosting. They also connect to websites such as makemehost which lets you see the amount of players for every game, which the default custom games list doesn't offer.
72ba76 No.15523940
Nah, let them kill them. At best this will kill the community and therefore indirect support for Blizzard. Anyone still playing on battle.net is cucked to death.
3d4403 No.15523942
>>15523924
In order to host a game in Warcraft 3, you needed to forward a port. (This is no longer needed with this patch.)
Some people are technologically illiterate, whilst others are incapable of doing this for a variety of reasons. Fortunately, someone made a hosting bot that logs into Battle.net and hosts the game for you. This allows anyone to host a game.
Hosting bots had more functionality added to them. >>15523856 mentions a whole bunch. I mention a bunch more here >>15523918
Blizzard got off their asses a few years ago and finally, after 15 years of doing fuckall for the custom game community, finally started trying to improve things. This patch makes it so that you no longer need a bot to host if you can't port forward, but it also kills bots.
42524b No.15523968
>>15523942
There are a few problems. They better make sure that a game doesn't end if host leaves, adds useful hosting commands, and allows the host to rename their games while in-lobby. There was also the option to make announcements with bots. They were overall very useful.
3d4403 No.15523990
>>15523968
>a game doesn't end if host leaves
When the host disconnects, a new host is automatically chosen.
If the new host does not have his port forwarded, everyone disconnects. (This is why sometimes the host leaving does not stop the game from continuing. The newly selected host has his port forwarded.)
The patch removes the need to port forward to host games. With that, it should also solve this issue entirely.
>allows the host to rename their games while in-lobby
The only use I've seen for this is showing the player count in the name. But in this image >>15523827 you can see this is no longer needed.
The other things you mention are gone though.
5f3c80 No.15524145
>This thread is stickied
For what fucking purpose?
622042 No.15524150
Besides all the kikey shit going on with games, the amount of networking retardation takes a close second.
0ca5ed No.15524151
>>15524145
Mark likes blizz? Captcha: negola
fd98a2 No.15524167
>finally patched the game last night
>the patch broke it and I couldn't even start the game
>had to scour the SC1 forum section for people who had a similar issue happen to them to find a solution
Great job, Blizz. At least it finally fixed the framerate being stuck at 30FPS for me.
Some of the balancing is complete fucking bonkers though, I think I'm just going to switch from HU to UD, despite the heavy nerfs some UD units got.
Fuck early harassment, I can't fucking take it any more.
>>15523521
>forgetting about sorceresses and their massive tits
Come on man.
>>15523827
Thanks for posting the thread.
You've pretty much explained it yourself, they're not trying to kill the bots out of malice (I hope), but because they believe that they are no longer needed thanks to the removal of some restrictions.
And to be fair, if you're not using the sites associated with the hosting bots, it's very often difficult to just get in and find a game with people in it, most hosted games are empty and random people already have enough trouble making this work.
On the other hand, bots keep the latest versions of maps alive and going and have extra functionality.
I think it'd be best if they let the bots stay, but allowed people to filter them out to let randoms have faster games.
23f164 No.15524227
Am I too late? I'm getting super nostalgic for wc3. How do I go about getting into these custom game communities.
42524b No.15524237
>>15524227
MMH and ENT are down for 48hrs. There's no easy to way to host a good custom map. I really hope that when this update comes out, it doesn't fuck up the whole WC3 community. I also hope that without bots there's still a lot of good hosting options and that without bots the game list will be refreshed and work much better…
23f164 No.15524273
>>15524237
So I still have some time before bliz nukes the game? Can I play with a pirate copy? I sure as hell don't know where my old serial key is.
fd98a2 No.15524305
>>15524273
Honestly, they might just make WC3 free like they did with SC.
762159 No.15524318
>>15524305
> "free"
If you mean a bloated 50gb "HD" version with hardcoded ads for the newest WoW expansion, then sure
42524b No.15524325
>>15524305
>>15524273
>>15523730
>>15523543
>>15523531
>>15523497
>>15523467
>>15523450
>>15523181
I don't know whether I'm anti-bot or pro-bot anymore. But I noticed that the bots have a monopoly on game and I do hate bot-spam. I initially felt pro-bot because they had many convenient commands. I somewhat switch to anti-bot if the upcoming update works fairly well for user hosts and incorporates many of the good commands the bots had.
I regret chimping out over bots. But it is imperative that we preserve the custom games and don't let this conflict destroy the gaming community. I really would like to see the end of bot spam, tbh.
fd98a2 No.15524359
>>15524318
Did they do that with SC?
Also, it's already "HD," they added proper widescreen support and that's where they ended it.
9cc409 No.15524379
29a315 No.15524414
I don't get it. Are you fucks playing the newest patches the release for the game or some shit? Do you really play with "legit" copies on battle.net? Is p2p that hard for you? I haven't played the game in a decade probably, but all of this seems wrong.
76db0a No.15524427
>>15524414
It'd be nice, but probably not possible to find people to play with that way.
35de85 No.15524536
Warcraft 3 isn't good.
Any game that requires micro isn't good.
13dfed No.15524616
Hosting bots are for lazy children.
>>15523668
This.
41ad1f No.15524665
>>15523827
>Essentially, Blizzard is trying to replace hosting bots by delivering some of the functionality themselves.
that's not at all what they are trying to do. they are trying to stamp out anything that doesn't rely on their central servers so they have full control like the kike's they are.
5f5309 No.15524683
>>15524617
i wonder, if robots enjoyed music would they even like music like this?
41ad1f No.15524726
this is the only post blizzjew is going to read
72ba76 No.15524772
>>15524515
Do you think he got a boner when the blood pooled inside him?
d4bde0 No.15524808
>>15523087
>not wanting Nu-Blizzard to shoot themselves in the foot
holy shit you people are retarded
57f871 No.15524832
>>15524808
>pissing off a bunch of russians and 30-something-year-old autists who bought the game over a decade ago
>shooting themselves in the foot
Even if half of the affected users boycott Blizzard products over it, the effect on their income will be negligible. Their new primary audience was born after the turn of the millennium.
5f5309 No.15524837
so what does blizzard gain exactly by axing hosting bots? and what does it lose if it ignores it?
13dfed No.15524888
>>15524837
>so what does blizzard gain exactly by axing hosting bots?
They regain control over their game.
>and what does it lose if it ignores it?
People who already paid for the game get angry on their forums.
588c26 No.15524891
what the hell is a hosting bot
5f5309 No.15524908
>>15524888
are they planning to roll out "premium" maps for warcraft 3?
98ccc0 No.15524917
Gee can't wait to not be able to play custom games anymore.
76db0a No.15524930
>>15524917
Kind of wish we did an unofficial gamenight on this, or just randomly play. Pirated LAN of course.
13dfed No.15524978
>>15524917
t. BR with poor person internet
000000 No.15524990
>2018
>warcraft 3
dude.. it's almost 2019
42524b No.15525002
>>15524990
THE CURRENT YEAR
a28c0d No.15525020
>blizzard
>catposting
>MMOs
Welcome to the old cancer general.
5f5309 No.15525048
bf4438 No.15525162
>>15524665
This. They want to start policing what maps are allowed, and to make sure they have a copy of everything people play because they own everything you make with their editor, goy.
fd98a2 No.15525561
>>15524990
Good games live forever, friend.
8ccb8d No.15525564
>>15523181
>Nu-Blizzard would have shattered what kept the multiplayer custom games alive
Anything blizzard does to neuter itself and fuck over blizzdrones is great for me
8ccb8d No.15525581
>>15524832
The people who care about Warcraft 3's multiplayer will move on to pirated releases. Modern day audience isn't going to play Warcraft 3 for Dota over LoL or Dota2. The multiplayer would become a ghost town.
None of this matters anyway, blizzdrones deserve all they get.
b63e6b No.15525611
>>15525581
It's actually a pain looking for an up to date Warcraft 3, since Blizzard gives that shit away for free.
000000 No.15525942
>>15523087
Going back to WC3 without GHost++ seems like an abomination to me. Cross-realm hosting and slow-hosting are some of the only reasons why you can get custom games that are not DotA going. Without custom bots it's going to be a death sentence for any unpopular maps you'd want to play. Not to mention there were a lot of QoL improvements from hosting bots.
Overall removing hosting bots would kill the custom map community in WC3. Anyone who thinks removing hosting bots is the solution is an idiot.
dbdd73 No.15525956
>>15524167
>deathcoils your item creep and steals said item
nothin personnel kid
298303 No.15525978
>people shilling bothosts
>the vehicle that allowed the DotA and battleships 'communities' to smother wc3 custom maps completely by means of technological supremacy
>the bots that whittled down the original community further by being super strict on people with high ping and leavers, meaning they couldn't play anymore because bothosts with shared ban lists were the only game in town
>whilst posting videos of maps that don't get played anymore anyway because only the most hardcore players play anymore and they all play the most common shit tier maps only
Fuck off. Warcraft 3 is dead and has been for years.
fd98a2 No.15525988
>>15525956
Not as nearly as bad as
>windwalks behind you
>steals your creep and the item
>kills your archmage
Everyone keeps picking the AM because he is the meta hero (brilliance aura and water elemental nerfs, so fuck him now), but he is such a terrible pick if you're not among the top 5% of players, you'd probably be better off with the paladin.
>>15525942
Read the patch notes >>15523827 posted.
It's not a straightforward issue, and I, for one, wouldn't mind being able to at least filter them to get a list of games made by actual players which would in turn make it easier for people to join.
Outright exclusion doesn't look like a solution, but a filter would do.
298303 No.15525991
>>15525978
Also:
>the vehicle that allowed retards to deluge the custom game lobby with constantly running and restarting unpopular games without needing to tend to them themselves, most of which just sit completely empty and pollute the list, serving as an obstruction and meaning it takes forever for the few real people to congregate on one game and actually start it
>>15525988
Better filtering six or more years ago would have helped. Now though..?
fd98a2 No.15526007
>>15525991
>all the stars align for this one meeting at Blizz and they manage to make a single good decision after 10 years of blunders and terrible business practices
>fix the issues the game was plagued by
>gets a bit of traction
>old returning players and maybe even new ones get in
>??
>play Sunken Temple with bros
Never forget that miracles do happen.
298303 No.15526125
>>15526007
I'm not holding my breath, but we can dream.
They do have such poor business acumen though.
A path to save WC3 would've been if they had upgraded the models, textures and engine and used the game as a base for their new moba, effectively bundling WC3 as a bonus remaster and a component of a larger game without changing the base gameplay.
000000 No.15526129
>>15524908
That sounds like something new Blizzard would want to do, but I think Starcraft 2 taught them that doesn't work.
>>15525988
Better filters and a better browser would be something that WC3 should have had from the start (by far), but my points still stand. Whenever I wanted to host an unpopular map, I would cross-realm host it on purpose because otherwise I wouldn't get the numbers in any amount of reasonable time. I could also have the game name update based on the amount of players in the lobby. These were very welcome features to WC3 hosting. I remember what WC3 hosting was like before hosting bots became a thing, and if you were playing a rare and unpopular map that required a large number of players, you would be shit out of luck. You could spend half an hour to an hour waiting in lobby as people trickled in and out and by the time the game started (IF it started) you had to deal with AFKs. I had that happen loads.
Once maphosting bots became a thing I just hosted my map cross-realm and refreshed frequently. The result was that my games would actually fill up in a reasonable amount of time and fun would actually be had. Sometimes I would have a bot autohost a rare map and just include !votekick and maybe a !help system to provide a map tutorial and others would enjoy the custom map while I wasn't playing.
Overall custom hosting did a lot to save the WC3 custom game community. There can certainly be complaints about the server browser and the fillup from garbage games you don't want to play, but the solution to that isn't to just ban custom hosting. It's to create a much better server browser with better filters.
42524b No.15526848
>>15526125
FUCK YOUR UPDATED TEXTURES/GRAPHICS
Speaking as a poorfag who doesn't have a decent PC, please kill yourself. Why does every old game need better graphics, you cunt? Fuck, sometimes I prefer the older graphics. I don't care if they're "old" or "outdated" or "not modern". Go suck a cawk.
b92de5 No.15526860
>>15526007
>Sunken temple.
Man I love that map. I wish I could find my old warcraft 3 CD so I can play it again.
4d3641 No.15527142
>>15523087
Nu-Blizzard is just doing this in retaliation because of some hormone pill influenced frenzy that makes them inable to understand the concept that some old is good. And when the fuck ups about BFA are eating them alive, they turn to War3 as the sacrificial lamb to strike down because they can't hope or dream to make anything as decent as War 2 or War 3 was.
Many years ago I would have loved to see what War 4 would've come out to look like. How much they would've done as a new RTS to be visually, mechanically, and audibly beautiful. But especially nowadays, Nu-blizzard and the political correctness crew will just turn the entire thing into a sham. Force some obvious as fuck political narratives and other shit into the story that leaves plotholes gaping wider than the roasties sitting in the company, There's already a complete disregard for lore in the WoW games, but a War4 RTS with how shit it will potentially be will just be a final nail in the coffin.
The War3 custom games along with the RTS aspect gave life to many minigames that branched off and became their own genres for a time. Tower Defenses and DOTA clones are the primary ones. But the ones not forgotten, Are you a retard, escape gay heaven, canned bread, angel arena, kodo tag, troll island, darwin's island, 11th vampire, space station, the changeling, and more.
bf4438 No.15527804
>>15527142
Parasite 2/Resurrection, Symbiote, and Metastasis were some of my favorites. Whether it was a minigame or a super-competetive hero arena warcraft 3 had it all.
4e6a9f No.15527813
>>15526848
Why should he suck a cock? If you sucked cock you could make enough money to buy a real computer, dumbass.
f623bf No.15527829
WC3 has a game community thats unlike any other and they are really dedicated to play their shity game again and again and again and again and they like it that way. It endured the test of time and the DEVs are to pussy to pull the switch so instead they slowly kill the game with shity updates when all they ever wanted was to be left alone
bf4438 No.15527847
>>15527829
Doesn't Garena have their own fork blizz client+servers? WC3 has been too lax with their security and data handling to try and ratchet it down now, like Brood War before it. It really sucks to see it this way, but you can clearly see the line between old blizz and nu-blizz with how they treat their users and what they are allowed to do with the games they bought.
42524b No.15527855
>>15527813
Why do you think it's okay to re-do already finished games? I bought a game. Why should I not be able to run it because some nu-male faggots wanted to "modernize" it. Listen, kiddo. Just make a new game. If you want a new game… MAKE A NEW GAME. Let me tell you, I'm not against them making the game more accessible, improving AI, or incorporating it into battle.net and making it more accessible to modern audiences… But fuck off with fundamentally changing an older game. This isn't WoW, an on-going MMO. And even WoW suffers from being changed fundamentally over and over again.
f623bf No.15527872
>>15527847
With hosting bots gone all the Cheaters, Griefers, Hackers, Rule Breakers, Game Ruiners will be free to ruin all the games. with hosting bots you can kick and ban these users. This is really a back stabbing since bots are what kept the game alive so now blizzard wants to thank us by killing us
bf4438 No.15527880
>>15527872
I'm used to using Shadow French tools to kick and a 3rd party program to banlist, but I hear those will be broken/bannable too. Everyone who complains about having to open their ports to host is just a tech-illiterate retard.
f623bf No.15527898
>>15527880
Its no problem because no one will be playing the game very soon so have fun by yourself
000000 No.15529339
>>15527880
>Everyone who complains about having to open their ports to host is just a tech-illiterate retard.
Nah, some people, like university/college students, are in shitty places where they don't have admin access to the router so setting up port forwarding is a lot more painful when UPnP fails.
a67a79 No.15529925
Why not move to Dota2 custom maps?
bf4438 No.15529932
>>15529925
Because they're paywalled? SC2 is a better option despite its user-unfriendly map editor because the arcade is free.
4f1820 No.15529947
>>15524515
A dog is a man's best friend.
Anyone who even has such images on his PC is sub-human scum that need to go into the oven.
After extreeme and painfull torture of course.
bf4438 No.15529958
>>15529947
nah fuck off. A dog is an animal.
b63e6b No.15529977
>>15529958
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bf4438 No.15529997
>>15529977
Still here, nice try though.
c3e3d2 No.15530010
>>15524832
True, far too many riceniggers wrapped around SC.
298303 No.15530260
>>15527855
>Make a new game
>Nublizzard
What are you, stupid? It'd suck.
They've done the footwork. The game logic isn't a problem, there's nothing wrong with the audio, AI, etc. The graphics are the only thing that is preventing new players from playing it as everything else feels fine and good already.
A remaster is the only way we get a good game out of them.
You saw the shitpile that was Diablo 3.
Also, get a job.
fd98a2 No.15530300
>>15530260
>implying Warcraft 3 needs a remaster
It looks great already and any meddling would only wreck it, just like they fucked up the StarCraft remaster graphics.
3d4403 No.15530324
>>15527880
> Everyone who complains about having to open their ports to host is just a tech-illiterate retard.
Are you sure you're not talking about yourself?
To counter IPv4 address starvation, many ISP's have started to introduce address sharing, where multiple customers end up sharing a single IP address. Those customers are essentially behind an extra shared router.
ISP's sometimes offer the option the forward ports to their customers, but not always. One of my friends actually has an ISP that only does it if you pay them extra.
On top of that, there's plenty of places where users don't have access to their routers, like >>15529339 mentions with student dorms.
298303 No.15530533
>>15530300
If it's a choice between remaster or new Warcraft title, I'd rather a remaster that has a chance of reviving wc3 online than a new fuckup that is a general waste of everyone's time and further runs the franchise into the ground
92ffe1 No.15530553
>>15530324
>many ISP's have started to introduce address sharing
oh so this is why im getting all those weird cities as my ip location
000000 No.15530657
wc4 will launch sometime this or next year or the year after
they must kill wc3 first, otherwise no one will buy it
the first step was the "tru high res" crap
tl;dr please save $20 to buy wc4 (or $40) (but you should pay $60 to get all the pre-order bonuses) (and another $60 for DLC)
000000 No.15530700
>>15524167
>I think I'm gonna switch to UD
they're all shit anyway, just play a real RTS instead
HU strat
>footmen and water eles spam
>exp with militia
>tower spam
>steamtank spam
UD strat
>crypt fiend spam
>1-2 statues
>destroyers + frost wyrms
ORC
>make blademaster
>steal creeps invis and kill workers
>show up with healing wave, scroll of speed, spirit link, blood lust, stasis trap, healing ward, healing salves, war stomp, endurance aura, potion of invulnerability, potion of healing, potion of mana, windwalk, clones
NE
>spam staff of preservation
>reach lvl 6 DH, press R, right click enemy
every single game has the exact same build order and the exact same strats and it all comes down to micro (on the exact same 4-5 maps)
wc3 multiplayer was a mistake
3a4324 No.15531251
I dislike their balance changes.
To be honest the only thing I wanted from them was blade master nerfs.
Probably make undead expansions have better defenses / easier to get since undead has only one way to play in a lot of their matchups since their gold mines / expansions / workers are too weak and easy to kill off. Just leads to undead rushing fiends + destroyers in all their matchups safe for night elf matchup.
>>15525988
Night Elf matchup is pretty aids. Human matchup got way harder with destroyer nerfs, and would favor human now I would say. Because the only strat you could really do against humans was rushing destroyers + preventing their expansion before you get them.
I think Blizzard should just buff their expansions in some way they're just too bad which means undead just does early pushes all the time. Their mines are so easy to destroy and take very long to rebuild + cost a lot of gold every time you need to rebuild it. Workers are also much more vulnerable than the other 3 factions.
345580 No.15531263
>>15529947
Get over it
>if you have images of it you're just as bad as the guy who did it
go fuck your gay self.
3a4324 No.15531274
>>15529932
SC 2 was so terrible with maps when I played it. It would just put the most popular in the top 10 results. Then you had to scroll down from the top 10 to less popular maps. The scrolling took long and was annoying…. which lead to nobody actually clicking down to play map #87. So you only had like 20 maps you could play with others. Terrible. Actually surprised Blizzard released it in such a bad shape, starcraft 2 wings of liberty multiplayer was just bad. It was semi balanced when I played it but not fun at all. There were cheesy strats against races that would yield a stable 60-70% winrate all the way till grandmaster league.
>>15524832
Yeah its primarily their WoW players. But I think Blizz treats their wow players like trash anyway. They'll pay for that, I believe BFA is already being a flop, judging from the fact that even their leddit fanboy forum is lashing out at the devs.
bf4438 No.15531294
>>15531274
They changed it at one point to include you being able to see open lobbies and then changed it again to make that the default view, so it worked like WC3, but its true there are very few maps that people play compared to WC3. They also keep fucking with the balance in melee games to the point where the only viable strat is to micro, each race has their preferred micromanagement-heavy unit.