4a8164 No.15520465
https://archive.fo/3jgQB
"A lie told often enough becomes the truth."
5e4fa5 No.15520483
Its not enough to point at a group of niggers and say this is 100% nigger. We need 200% nigger.
f73126 No.15520487
This journalist has the memory span of a retarded june bug.
fef100 No.15520491
>>15520465
Tired feminist bigotry is what counts as "new ideas" now?
>>15520487
No he just knows nothing about video games.
d0afb1 No.15520501
Her "game" is a retarded walking sim about one stronk independen womyn astronaut carrying another not so stronk dependen womyn astronaut.
0e65da No.15520507
>>15520487
Interesting that the "sexist" Far East has a far larger number of female gamers (actual gamers, not just casual mobile/socialshit) and gamedevs, because they're willing to segregate their genres, instead of attempting to stuff female appeal into genres women and girls don't like. Not to mention that the authors and players of non-games such as VNs are happy to unpretentiously admit those aren't games.
ee1c88 No.15520513
>>15520498
We just need well written characters whether they are male or female within well made games.
f73126 No.15520515
>>15520491
Then he should quit his job because he's already failed at very fundamental level.
>>15520507
I think the far east don't go care about being progessive and instead focus on the story like
>>15520486 said.
5e4fa5 No.15520519
>>15520513
We just need thicklipped nigger characters whether they are likeable or not shoved everywhere in games
0e65da No.15520521
>>15520498
>>15520519
>muh huwite sharia
He's right, that a great female character generally needs to be written in a way that dovetails with their femininity. Simply swapping around checkboxes in your cast, rather than making it more "diverse", only further highlights the blandness of your story.
14e8f2 No.15520522
bfdcf6 No.15520528
these generic articles all sound the same now. 4 years and nothing has changed
5e4fa5 No.15520531
>>15520522
I'm sorry your elaborate tuba honking simulator general thread had to die for this.
aa4754 No.15520562
>Point at Bayonetta
>Job Done
What? They were ready to ban Bayonetta if they would have had the leverage to at the time, and she's been a constant exemplar throw up by feminists for all the things "wrong" with depictions of women in gaming. They can't just forget all the shit they talked for the last 10 fucking years and then try to claim her as their own.
ab6de2 No.15520578
>>15520531
It's the same shit we've heard a thousand times over that these journalists put out on a semi-annual basis. It's the go to journalist shitpost when they want to be progressive and have nothing controversial to talk about.
7d1fd1 No.15520582
I don't understand the point of showing this piece of shit evidence of female lead games or good will with comments of “We only need good characters or good gamplay”, they don't give a fuck, they will call you a nazi at the moment that you tell them something that they don't like, the only effective way to keep these fuckers in line is to not buy their games, we did a good job with Mass Effect Andromeda, Telltale Studios and with Battlefield Vagina, to mention a few, they cannot program, they can't write good characters without a Joss Whedon cliché of making a joke in the worst moment possible and they can't even run a studio like Telltale Games (How the fuck you can screw a studio that make point and click games? That's beyond me.), just don't buy their games they support and you will see them go away, also don't read video game press, at this point this fucker can't even make an interview without asking if the character will be a gay muslim trans.
ae53a7 No.15520592
It's not enough.
IT'S NEVER ENOUGH.
afb863 No.15520605
Who the fuck cares what a cultural marxist windbag has to say about videogames. Why don't marxists give the same cry treatment over the fact that there is not enough straight male representation in the fashion industry, or white representation in basketball? Protip: It's because they seek the destruction of white men, not "representation" which is a retarded ideal to begin with
66e1cb No.15520634
>>15520498
Judging from the character rename he mentioned, it's probably some jewtuber. I know one guy's used the same name for videos of another game in the series before.
95892d No.15520662
>>15520498
>Male gamers need gender politics
Try again, jew. We're not all retards from /pol/, and your bullshit does not fly with me.
f0d180 No.15520682
>>15520507
I'm reminded of the story behind Animal Crossing (N64). The producer Takashi Tezuka wanted the game to appeal to a broad demographic including women. So nearly all the women who worked in EAD group (about 7) were put to work on the game, one designed characters, some did interior design, textbox design, wallpaper/carpets/clothing, etc.
Somehow that paid off and AC has a massive fanbase of both men and women. With New Leaf having 56% of pre-orders by women and even buying 3DS's just for the game.
>>15520582
>they can't even run a studio like Telltale Games (How the fuck you can screw a studio that make point and click games? That's beyond me.)
I think there is an Einstein quote of doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity (or is it stupidity?) would apply well to TTG post TWD formula.
3a11ea No.15520687
>>15520662
>if we ignore it it will go away
your kind of faggotry is how this shit was allowed to fester and grow for decades
95892d No.15520693
>>15520687
Ignoring and outcompeting it is the only way to make it go away. Unless you're not all that confident about the quality of the games competing with the poz, anyway…
7ce964 No.15520696
>>15520693
Ignoring it never helped, you fucking idiot.
Kill yourself.
3a11ea No.15520699
>>15520693
>ignoring it and outcompeting it is the only way to make it go away
No it isn't and you are retarded if you think that will work. Ignoring it is how they were able to slip in, and you are not representative of the market so you aren't going to out compete a monopoly.
95892d No.15520700
>>15520696
Very few have actually ignored it. The big guys knuckled under and sacrificed principles for money.
95892d No.15520702
>>15520699
>a monopoly
Which monopoly is that, which forbids others from making and selling better games?
11182a No.15520705
>>15520582
Can you post more sexy Vivian?
3a11ea No.15520710
>>15520700
The big guys have wanted this all along, they just needed the culture shifted far enough to make it work. This shit didn't start in the past decade. It just got unbearable in the past decade.
>>15520702
Advertising. You will always be a drop in the bucket and so will anyone else who isn't towing the line. At best you get a slightly less pozzed game, which no doubt to faggots like you is good enough because you don't care unless the poz is dialed up to 15.
02d91c No.15520718
>>15520682
AC is a game that's just right, and achieves peak comfy somehow. I guess being comfy, relaxed, and cute is what attracts women, but thing is that's exactly what makes AC good and why men like it as well.
There is nothing wrong with genders liking different things. It is extremely comfy when both sexes can agree on something, like how good AC is, but these people don't seem to understand that many women don't play most "mainstream" games because they are not their cup of tea, not because a girl is showing too much skin, but because maybe they don't want to play like cocaine-ridden APM monkeys. Fire Emblem is another game a lot of women like, and it has its fair deal of skimpy clothes.
These people don't understand that if they want more girls in gaming, they have to start pandering to them, not making other games pander less to men.
e6c0f9 No.15520726
>>15520465
It is enough, or perhaps too much as the market takes priority over the imaginary ones and zeroes that cover the real ones and zeroes that make up a fictional digital character. The people who are insane are always the last to know. They are fighting the shadows of their insecurities, unable to recognize their authoritarian demands that everyone be as weak and bitter as themselves. May God allow to continue to just have pretended to be retarded in the afterlife.
7b14ac No.15520732
>>15520710
the big guys want big numbers, that attracts stock holders that demand bigger numbers. marketing or advertisability is exactly whats dragging everything down since numbers are the only priority. when youre vouching for advertising, youre just confirming that keeping a cool head is the right path.
d5308f No.15520737
>>15520487
Whenever the topic of "muh stronk wimmenz" and gaming comes up, all I can think of is how the Resident Evil series developed over the years.
RE1 - Male and Female protagonist share Lead role.
RE2 - Male and Female protagonist share Lead role.
RE3 - Female lead. Male Sidekick
Code Veronica - Female Lead - Two male sidekicks.
RE4 - Male lead. Female sidekick
RE5 - Male and Female protagonist share Lead role.
RE6 - Male and Female protagonists share Lead role.
It took the series almost a decade until it finally had a Male as the dedicated main character.
And yet all people like pic related do is scream about how innovative more female protagonists would be.
>steponeturnonthegas.jpg.
3a11ea No.15520744
>>15520732
>the big guys want big numbers
Ignoring how they have shoved increasing poz into every new game regardless of whether it hurts sales or not. They have an agenda and control enough of the market to weather losses until it sticks.
d6b995 No.15520772
And they still pretend there is no political agenda behind it.
7b14ac No.15520808
>>15520744
we are not in total disagreement, they were never our friends since we are just numbers. and there are surely such schemes in place nowadays as there are successful infiltrators and in many cases theres nothing left to them but a name. but marketing is the gatekeeper to all this. thats how they got in, thats how they were opened up to this kind of thing and thats where we end back up at with what i believe is their end goal, security/longevity.
in the quest for coverage/advertising or for public image they sell their soul. that public image is for some reason very important, they must play along or the too busy to think will turn their backs on them.
unless theyre under the radar enough to not really care too much either way about some propaganda piece since at that stage any coverage is good coverage.
811125 No.15520817
>>15520582
This. Just laugh at them or kill them. Anything else is a waste of effort.
45062b No.15520997
I remember not what, 10 years ago that things were so different. Nobody cared about Trannies. Feminism was mostly kept to the occational GURL POWAH episode in a cartoon. People felt like they had thicker skins and those that were properly laughed at, not coddled by companies. What changed?
d5a3b4 No.15521010
Why do they keep pumping out the same shitty article? Why do they think making more WAHMEN protagonists will change anything about the world?
061990 No.15521028
>>15520997
(((They))) start by having you laugh at it.
0cfbef No.15521052
>>15521010
They're basically doubling down on the old classic of shouting everyone else down and claiming their silence is acceptance to your ideals.
900de2 No.15521065
>>15521010
It's like they want the illusion of change. The feeling of making a difference within what would seem like an insignificant position they're in (which they are). They are the Don Quixote's that are chasing windmills. It's like a Don Quixote Syndrome outbreak with nobody giving them proper medication.
16d981 No.15521112
>all there is for this game is a twatter and faceberg page
I call shenanigans.
bdccff No.15521333
Don't you see Anon? We have to be "equal"!
352a6b No.15521365
>>15521359
Show me your collection of commie scalps and I'll take you seriously, TORpedo
4bc32c No.15521443
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Oh hey a chance to post this again.
963201 No.15521454
>>15520487
>N-no gaming is totally representative of women and feminism. See? Look at all of these examples. Now please stop politicizing my hobby!
I thought we cleaned you cucks out years ago.
bc3f75 No.15521466
>>15520465
>UK Editor
James needs to wake up. His country is under invasion, and all he's doing is writing an article about some stupid feminist in gaming.
2826a2 No.15521474
i'll bite, you really think the female from Bayonetta and the female version of Shepard are enough? I genuinely hate sjw's as much as the rest of you but, c'mon man? Lara Croft is the only other badass I can think of so that's…what, three? Not enough for me man.
7b14ac No.15521506
>>15521028
refugees say the darnedest things
7f776b No.15521576
>>15521521
BUT…
BUT…
THOSE HIP CENTRISTS AND REALLY COOL LEFTISTS SAID THAT HOMOSEXUALITY WOULDN'T LEAD TO THAT
SLIPPERY SLOPE
496b6b No.15521630
>>15521474
Samus
Jill Valentine
Chun Li
Nina Williams
Sophitia
Sheik/Tetra (non-princess forms of Zelda basically)
Aloy
Bloodrayne
SNK's Athena
Off the top of my head. There are plenty of female leads, and that's only in the genres I actually play. Girly shit like VNs and P&C adventures have fucking way more than the usual action/adventure quota.
If anything women are over-represented in gaming given how few women actually play the hardcore games. Survey after survey shows 50% of women play games, but of those women, 80%+ are playing mobile shit almost exclusively. The remaining 20% get plenty of proportional representation in their games.
353d8c No.15521647
And now you are starting to realize that it's long gone the times when women fought for EQUAL rights you know, what they call egalitarianism.
What happens when that is the case?
>Push for female inclusion
>People bow before you because it is just to be more inclusive
>Industry becomes more inclusive
>Job well done, let's live on
This is not what's happening.
And it's far from the truth that this is a bunch of feminists just sperging out because they can. This is a systematic oppression of everyone who doesn't conform to their "beliefs" Belief is the wrong word. Maybe doctrine?
Why is it that behind every feminist there's a big bunch of money?
Why is it that that money almost always comes from left-leaning rich assholes and/or globalists?
28e6df No.15521651
>I first started expressing an interest in making games when I was at senior school, and I mentioned games alongside film and TV;
>I just wanted to tell stories and those are the three mediums I think are interesting.
>"[Careers advisors] completely ignored my game-making aspirations and just pushed me more in the TV/film direction
Damn, those advisors tried to save us from another shitty art "game" maker.
>With aspirations of becoming a narrative designer or game director, Fernandez hopes to contribute to changing perceptions of video games and the career opportunities they offer women in her own way - starting with Deserter.
>The game takes about 10 minutes to play through
>10 minutes
Just another retard wannabe filmmaker who doesn't care about games and doesn't know shit about them. That's not even getting to her dumb ass remarks on female game characters, which there are fucking mountains of but she wouldn't know since she doesn't fucking play games.
3a11ea No.15521705
>>15521474
One "badass" female character is too much really.
76d17f No.15521720
I. DON'T. FUCKING. CARE ABOUT ALL OF THESE STARONG INDEPENDANT ROASTIE FEMALE PROTAGONISTS. I'M SICK OF IT. Why the FUCK can I not get qt redpilled trad aryan girls in my vidya? I WANT QT TRAD GIRLS GOD DAMMIT WHY IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK?
1cc961 No.15521753
When they talk about lack of female leads in vidya, do they mean lack of transracial polyamorous asexual lesbians? Otherwise I don't understand.
ca1713 No.15521757
>>15520465
>everybody needs to be a woman
lol this faggot
37b446 No.15521800
>>15521753
They want females in a leading position, with males explicitly depicted as either useless or admirative of their assertiveness and leadership. Keep in mind they don't see the game in video games, only the narrative (that they mostly make up from their ideology). So it doesn't matter what the characters actually do or what the story actually is, what matters to them is the trivial details of how they are shown.
2b9f36 No.15521853
>>15521630
>There are plenty of female leads
too many, feminists are never satisfied because they can't get any, devs should cut down female leads
26351b No.15521879
So what about all of those other female characters? Don't make me get the list. Jill Valentine? Who?
211571 No.15521895
>>15521766
> It's all white noise meant to fool gullible fence shitters in siding with them
Good work then, because I was neatly on the left early 00s and these psychos dragged the Left so far back like a fucking treadmill belt that i had to jump over the fence just to stay where I was.
811125 No.15521907
>>15521010
Every time someone posts this gif I think it's Dracula from the thumbnail.
26351b No.15521914
>>15521895
We talk about left and right, but it's beyond that at this point. A few decades ago, no one would be in favour of encouraging kids to have sexual reassignment surgeries, left or right. It's purely a battle between fantasy and reality, sanity and insanity at this point.
26351b No.15521944
I bet if you added up all of the games where you only play a man, vs all of the games where a woman is at least an option, the second catagory would win, though sports games might offset the balance.
26351b No.15521961
>>15521956
Okay, but that wasn't "the left" was it? That was (((the left))).
26351b No.15521968
>>15521966
>the useful idiot is the problem
26351b No.15521981
>>15521972
The useful idiots are just the masses. They want to be told what to think and how to behave. These people can be a burden, but they're also a necessity, as you can't have a society made up entirely of leaders and free thinkers. These people are only a problem when destructive ideas are planted in their minds.
2f7ef2 No.15522013
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15520592
>>15520582
This. They aren't trying to get more female representation. They're trying to be what determines what is enough female representation. By saying "what about Samus, are we progressive enough now mommy?" you give them exactly what they want. They don't care about video games, hell, they don't even care about women. They care about power and influence. Stop humoring them.
26351b No.15522014
>>15522013
The point is to sway bystanders who might actually be dumb enough to believe there are only two female characters in all of video games, and all they're asking for is a bit of variety.
0303be No.15522027
>>15521720
Because it's the same as these dried up cunts asking for muh wymynz representation. Go make it yourself if you want something to reinforce your identity.
0303be No.15522033
>>15520592
Of course it isn't. Give an inch get taken for a mile. Then again, these cunts can only impotently wail on about wanting others to do things for them. It's the fools in gamedev who actually listen to them thinking there's a player base to be satisfied there.
2b9f36 No.15522041
>>15522014
>sway bystanders
you tell bystander normal homos to eat shit and die
811125 No.15522042
>>15522033
More like the kikes in managerial and institutional positions who put developers in a bind forcing them to comply or be left living in a $50k plus a year rent city with no job opportunities. Of course the Stockholm syndrome already set in years before this ever became an issue so resistance was never even considered an option.
2f7ef2 No.15522047
>>15522014
They do not care about the bystanders. They already have a mass of idiots who will do whatever they say. It's called tumblr. They are trying to gain more power by getting into positions in the industry itself. That's why they push agendas and virtue signal. It's noise to make them look bigger than they are, make them look like a fighter of oppression and make them look like the only answer to this "issue" they created.
26351b No.15522057
>>15522047
These people have cared about the bystanders for a long time. That's how they operate. Slowly slipping their ideas into people's minds until they no longer question them.
f73126 No.15522067
>>15521454
im mocking the author for rewriting history and saying there's no female video game characters in video games.
>>15520737
Almost like these faggots have never played a single video game ever.
98c935 No.15522077
>>15520486
>someone else who played Innocent Aces
Neat.
The entire discussion of this reminds me that the only way these people can propogate their drivel is to make up a problem and then point at their own lies. Women being in games isn't new, never has been, never will be.
865e8b No.15522528
Yeah, every character in everything must have a vagina or they're gonna bitch.
I wish people would just stop listening to them.
Or start shooting them.
45d1d1 No.15522555
>when things like Gamergate
There's something magical about being the big, bad boogeyman when the entire thing has effectively been on life support for just about years by now.
e33d66 No.15522648
cb3d5f No.15522762
>>15520501
Shame, I thought it was a Warhammer 40k game about Sisters of Battle. I wouldn't have liked that either, though. That reminds me that idiot that wanted to push female Space Marines.
>She even has an inclusive name
Like pottery.
ba4a6f No.15522791
>>15520513
A well-written female character is a loving mother and wife. A woman pretending to be a man is not well-written UNLESS the fact that she was emotionally abused to become that way is the characterization and her arc.
bcc0db No.15522795
>>15522791
Counterpoint: crone and seductress.
fb6682 No.15522828
>>15520718
It was pretty much universally acknowledged that men and women generally have different preferences when it comes to video games until the SJW crowd screamed about such observations being viewed as "Problematic". One notable example is how women tend to lean towards more cooperative roles than men, which is why you see more women in MMOs playing healers or other support roles. Actually knowing what women prefer in games is a good thing to have on a dev team making games for that audience. Unfortunately, most of the STRONK WYMYN that weasel their way into dev teams can't even grasp that.
ba4a6f No.15522835
>>15522805
It’s a shame that Five Guys got (negatively subconsciously) associated with that shit. It’s the only chain I find worth eating.
>>15522795
Oh, sure; those styles are fairly traditional and work as well.
9c5c2e No.15522880
>>15522805
>>15522835
to be honest i thought five guys was way funnier than gamergate. Just five guys getting a burger while literally who gets some fries.
98c935 No.15522922
>>15522835
5 guys is really expensive for not an amazing burger imo. I get better from a local diner.
bfdcf6 No.15523009
I wouldn't mind playing a game made by a rightwing woman. Even if all she offers is her artistic vision and just lets others do the heavy lifting, the game would definitely be a truly unique experience. Too bad most, if not all, female game devs are leftwingers. "Complaining about oppression" nonstop is an inherently toxic idea that regular people simply don't want in their escapist entertainment. Yet the "get woke, go broke" correlation fails to register with leftist devs that wonder why their games aren't selling well.
c0add7 No.15523054
>>15520718
>There is nothing wrong with genders liking different things.
Men and women are different sexes, not genders. Don't let them control language.
da8a16 No.15523056
Didn't Bioware say only less than 20 percent of players even used FemShep?
68598a No.15523064
>>15520465
>>15521010
It's just a marketing tactic for them to market shitty games, BUT WOKE. That's pretty much it.
16fa96 No.15523164
>>15523056
Aye, and most of them were trannies and faggots from /v/.
>>15520515
Speaking of Trails, I remember it being mentioned in the comments of a previous article like this only for faggots to say it doesn't count because Estelle is second fiddle to Joshua. wew.
f73126 No.15523202
>>15523164
>Estelle is second fiddle to Joshua. wew.
Which only proves my point that they never played these games.
9c13c0 No.15523222
>>15520465
>the gender of a video game character which is essentiallly just a 3D model
>relevant
getting real sick of these retards trying to act like entertainment and websites like this have some sort of social responsibility to keep people in check.
9c13c0 No.15523231
>>15523164
>Implying I'm a faggot for wanting to play as an ara.
811125 No.15523238
>>15523231
You're a faggot for liking Bioware games period.
813c07 No.15523292
>>15523238
KOTOR is a Bioware game, faggot. They have made good games in the past, just not recently. Another one falls to EA's boot.
811125 No.15523321
>>15523292
Yeah and it's terrible.
813c07 No.15523365
>>15523321
Here ya' go, 'Nonny; don't spend it all in one place, now, ya' hear?
a7f418 No.15523381
>>15521521
>In 20 years pedophilia and bestiality will be where transgenderism is today.
At the rate things are going, we'll probably be there by 10.
>>15523222 (checked)
These Marxist drones won't stop until every single thing is blatantly spewing their propaganda. Even apolitical things are threatening to them, anything less of full brainwash might foster wrongthink.
31bbea No.15523416
>>15523381
>>15523381
>we'll probably be there by 10.
i hope in 5
f63d30 No.15523502
>>15520507
Japan is problematic because it breaks the narrative. There's too much stuff with female characters, and too much of it can't just be dismissed by pointing at "sexualized" designs. There's also too many female creators, who also do things that proper women aren't supposed to do (e.g. porn). Feminists in America are meant to be behind the driver's wheel and plotting the course ("plotting" in more ways than one). Japan is an obstacle.
a7f418 No.15523518
>>15523416
Go to bed, Shadman. You're drunk.
>>15523502
> There's also too many female creators, who also do things that proper women aren't supposed to do (e.g. porn).
Clearly they have internalized misogyny. I'd swear one of those numbnuts unironically said that regarding Mari Shimazaki.
1ff07f No.15523576
<WE NEED MORE WYMYN IN VIDEOGAMES
>ok this is my idea we have an attractive
<OBJECTIFYING
>White
<RACIST
>Woman with boobs
<SEXIST RAPE MONSTER YOU SHOULD BE KILLED FOR YOUR IDEAS
>With no severe mental disorders
<RRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHHHH
>And is actually capable and not a pathetic child like Samus in Other M
<STOP FUCKING RAPING ME YOU SHITLORD
More WYMYN in Vidya could be cool, but we all know they just want more obese mulatto half nigger tranny blobs with purple hair and no boobs to get raped by digital niggers.
9c13c0 No.15523581
>>15523238
>Implying I play Bioshit
f73126 No.15523623
>>15523576
I got you fam, look at my posts for more WYMYN in gaming
2f1d7d No.15523625
>>15523416
>Piercing the condom
How retarded is Shadman?
a7f418 No.15523629
>>15523581
>Bowser hatching his master plan
da45c2 No.15523634
>>15523625
>being this dense
813c07 No.15523658
>>15523629
>defeat Mario by tying him down with the ol' ball 'n' chain
Holy shit, Bowser is a master strategist.
46a625 No.15523667
>With aspirations of becoming a narrative designer or game director,
>Narrative designer
>The opposite of sellable skillset
Stopped reading right here.
a7f418 No.15523693
>>15523667
Pretty clear at this point that these clowns all failed to make it in Hollywood didn't suck the right jew dicks and are foisting their bullshit in different markets.
62487e No.15523773
>>15521956
>And let's not forget how the German Green Party used to put children in a room, encourage them to simulate sex with each other while their observed them through a one-way glass for "research".
A-Anon, s-source?
008042 No.15523776
>>15521474
How about 50% of all fightan characters?
953b67 No.15526054
>>15520507
>shonen - tween/teen
>seinen - young adult/adult
>this is what weebs actually believe
Shonen is for boys and seinen is for teens. While adults do read manga, they usually go back to more lighthearted stuff like sports manga.
0770a8 No.15526132
>>15520465
Money talks and bullshit walks, men don't buy games with "STONK WOYMAN" protags because they don't like being talked down to. They like loose sluts, jiggle physics, and panty shots.
813c07 No.15526141
>>15526132
I prefer strong people as opposed to strong women; when the sex of the character becomes the focus, the creator is doing something wrong.
371497 No.15526142
>>15523776
This, a thousand times this. "Conveniently" ignoring female fightan characters really boils my piss.
There are strong, well written female characters fucking EVERYWHERE.
3077e6 No.15526164
>>15522835
>It’s a shame that Five Guys got (negatively subconsciously)
I always had a laugh about the whole thing whenever I ate there.
3a11ea No.15526194
>>15526141
What makes a strong woman are virtues completely different from what makes a strong man. Equality is really just masculinizing females and feminizing males.
865e8b No.15526224
>>15526054
>(1)
You're full of shit, by the way.
Don't talk about shit you don't understand, goon.
bcc7cf No.15526255
>>15520515
>Then he should quit his job because he's already failed at very fundamental level.
His job is to oppose masculinity, and anything else that's a threat to jewish control.
fe52f6 No.15526260
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15522835
>>15522880
>>15526164
I'd post a webm but youtube-dl is a gay piece of shit that doesn't create valid webms anymore.
3820f7 No.15526332
>>15526260
Then use invidious, faggot
813c07 No.15526335
>>15526194
<What makes a strong women are virtues completely different from what makes a strong man
How about you fill in this little questionnaire, faggot.
>the ability to make sound rational decisions when faced with serious concerns (male/female)?
>the ability to control one's emotions and deal with them in an appropriate way at an appropriate time (male/female)?
>interests or hobbies that show some kind of personality beyond the absolute most vapid [e.g. not: cosmetics, basic fitness, manual labor] (male/female)?
3a11ea No.15526579
>>15526335
>the ability to make sound rational decisions
Obviously a male virtue and why females up until feminism were guided by their fathers/husbands.
>the ability to control's one's emotions
See above
>interests or hobbies
Irrelevant to the point.
Female virtues are entirely around caring for and supporting their families. Holding them to a male standard is playing by feminist logic, except feminists use said logic hypocritically with applying male virtues to females without holding them to actually fulfilling said virtues. You are holding females to male virtues and pointing out how they don't meet them as an argument for why females are just shit, which again is just assuming they have to be like males to be of any value. They are different for a reason and that difference should be recognized for why and what it is. Females should never have been expected to live up to male virtues because they are not male. A female isn't shit because she is emotionally driven and incapable of competent leadership, she isn't meant to be a logic driven leader. She is meant to nurture her man's children and provide respect, love, and validation for the struggles he goes through to provide for her and said children. This not being the case with modern women is because they are damaged goods.
813c07 No.15526691
>>15526579
Holy shit, you're actually serious.
>faggot confirmed for not liking superior tomboys
d14cc6 No.15526703
>>15526579
>tomboys are gay because
>WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS
Hello, Mr. Buckley.
3a11ea No.15526725
>>15526691
>tomboys
Acting boyish and being bad at it does what to disprove anything that I said?
>y-you're a faggot c-confirmed
Says the faggot who wants boyish females.
>>15526703
>samefagging this hard
6e5c1b No.15526755
>>15526703
Tomboys are not gay
>WORDS WORDS WORDS
Does this part
>This not being the case with modern women is because they are damaged goods.
Hit too close to home? I know it's harsh, not only it's something damaged women cannot fix, it's also something they brought on to themselves on their own volition. It's one thing to be a subhuman, it's even more painful to have become one through one's own fault.
1a872e No.15526787
>>15526691
>>15526703
>muh teagan
Daily reminder that most IRL "tomboys" now are feminist dykes.
And if I'm wrong then fucking prove it, because all anyone ever posts is tomboy fanart. Show me proof that brown tomboys actually exist IRL.
ba4a6f No.15526789
>>15526691
>>15526703
>i love men with tits
>i love women who don’t act like women
>i love emotionally abused girls who think they’re not girls
<totally not gay bro
>>>/reddit/
ba4a6f No.15526791
>>15526260
Isn’t he a queer furry?
fb06d3 No.15526864
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15520487
<Yeah but most of them are white and thin so it doesn't count.
813c07 No.15527000
>>15526725
>two people share an opinion on an anonymous image board
<S-same fagging!
>>15526787
Just because women today don't meet the ideals that once existed for tomboys doesn't mean that they ''never' existed.
>>15526789
>women with personality other than retarded brainlets what cook and clean = men with tits
Wew lad.
813c07 No.15527005
>>15527000
>trips
<failed italics
c59ad9 No.15527040
>tomboy fetish
Or as I call it, gay-lite.
352a6b No.15527047
>>15526787
She won't turn if you claim her
82be95 No.15527051
>>15523292
>KOTOR
>good game
352a6b No.15527056
>>15526864
>posting a direct embed of The Bald Coalburner
1a872e No.15527091
>>15527051
>KOTOR
>not good game
We're reaching peak contrarian
ce2a8b No.15527098
Do people actually fetishize tomboys for being dudes with vaginas?
I thought the appeal was that they clearly suppressing their femininity because they are are scared that if they are "feminine" they won't be popular amongst guys, and that they are at their heart scared and awkward in regards to their being feminine.
Its like why people like tsunderes. Sure she acts like a total cunt to you, and in many cases only you, but she also has the moments where you can just glimpse how deeply she cares for you, but she tries to hide it being being an even bigger bitch.
d3c4e8 No.15527105
>>15527051
>>15527091
Reminder that KOTOR II is a better game in every way than KOTOR and was made by Obsidian not Bioware.
1a872e No.15527120
>>15527105
It is better even thought it wasn't finished, but he was saying KOTOR wasn't good at all.
12db06 No.15527166
>>15527098
Pic-related goes into it pretty good.
3a11ea No.15527173
>>15527000
>the same anon ID hopping both spout some bullshit about tomboys out of the blue within minutes of each other
>i-i'm not samefagging
d1e76c No.15527210
>>15526864
>Direct link to youtube
>Direct link to WigOnHead
wtf are you doing anon?
>>15526194
That's a pretty fair summary. Men and women evolved for different roles. Fighting your nature just leads to people becoming more and more unhappy as this feminist shit is pushed on people. Women in the west are getting more and more unhappy/unsatisfied, and male suicide rates are growing from what I've heard. Everyone suffers for this cancer.
813c07 No.15527222
>>15527173
go look at >>15527166
The reason tomboys were brought up by more than one person is because you're the kind of stupid shit that believes that women being uninteresting eyecandy is a good thing.
44ca25 No.15527249
>>15526864
>direct linking to nigger lover
>>>/reddit/
3a11ea No.15527270
>>15527222
>The reason tomboys were brought up by more than one person is because you're the kind of stupid shit that believes that women being uninteresting eyecandy is a good thing.
I said nothing about tomboys. I spoke about male and female nature. That you or some other faggots have a tomboy fetish is completely irrelevant. That supposedly two different anons, within 2 and a half minutes of "eachother", both jump to defending tomboys when they weren't even brought up is more than a little coincidental. Maybe try not to be so defensive about your degenerate fetishes in the future?
ce2a8b No.15527279
>>15527166
It kills my soul that tomboys are becoming more and more of an extinct race.
My little sister is actually becoming quite the tomboy in a lot of ways. Pretty much the only really "girly" thing she is into is Kpop boys and dancing. She is pretty much playing a different sport at every time of the year, and she is usually the best on her team. She is like the complete inverse of me at her age, who played like 2 sports, both of which I sucked ass at, and was otherwise pretty unpopular, or at least not noteworthy. Maybe there is hope in the next generation after all.
3a11ea No.15527301
>>15527279
>she plays sports
60+% chance she will end up fucking her knees or legs in general up
bf902e No.15527305
It's funny how they complain about the lack of Female protagonists and females being sexualised. but then you look at what game series have big female fanbases
Devil May Cry, Kingdom Hearts, Legend of Zelda. you know what they all have in common? The female fans sexualise the shit out of the characters, and make tons of gay fanshit.
So it seems that there are plenty of girls that don't give a fuck about "Female Protagonists" when they can just ogle all the guys.
61b57a No.15527317
>>15527305
>implying they know anything about video games or their communities
997bf4 No.15527320
Even Peach could be considered a strong character.
>But anon, she gets kidnapped!
She's also the fucking sole ruler of an entire kingdom. A lynchpin of her government. Literally every man around her except Mario and Luigi are goddamned incompetent. Her father was so inept and useless he simply ceased to exist as a government entity, or at least as someone worthy of note, before the SNES era. Peach is shown to have excellent skills in diplomacy and general government management, outside of military tactics or strategy. She manages herself quite well even when taken captive, most minions of Bowser and even Bowser himself finding it hard to actually do her harm outside of imposing that captivity. And this is due to her overwhelming charisma. Literally, she is just too likable to even consider causing her harm.
I admit that I'm probably injecting too much narrative into the Mario games here, but in the ones that have a story, this is consistent. Peach is likable, runs her government so well that no one seems to ever consider takeover (And in fact, Muchroom Kingdom is quite a nice-looking place, without poverty or disrepair) and is beloved by her people. In cases where she is allowed by the medium, she's even considerably capable as a fighter. I simply assume her sense of decorum prevents her from beating her captors senseless with her crown, most of the time.
I'm only taking the piss a little.
82be95 No.15527331
>>15527091
>normalfag likes KOTOR
>calls people contrarian
>>>/reddit/
>>>/facebook/
have fun with Skyrim kiddo
>>15527105
>Pillars of Eternity
Obsidian is Bioware. There is no meaningful difference.
ce2a8b No.15527335
>>15527301
At least its something.
I barely played any sports at all for half my life, and now that I finally started getting into more "athletic" stuff, I found out that my knees are horribly fucked up and pretty much will cripple me by the time I'm 50 unless I get it fixed.
>>15527305
Its kind of funny how literally only landwhales and soiboys want this tumblr-tier shit that is infecting all these games.
Regular guys tend to sexualize attractive female characters, whether they are strong (Samus, Lara Croft, etc.) or not (Peach, most other princesses).
It would make sense that most girls into vidya would be into sexualizing attractive male characters (Link, Dante, etc.).
It has nothing to do with whatever bullshit progressive pet issue is at stake.
385a2d No.15527349
>>15527301
That's only if you abuse them a lot, like a professional player does. Other than that the benefits far outweigh the risk.
f73126 No.15527357
>>15526864
>Terra
>Jade
>Maya
>White
only samus and heather are white the rest are 1/2 magical esper with a satyr father, black, and Japanese
c6419c No.15527368
>>15520465
>what is goalpost shifting for $200, Alex.
813c07 No.15527374
>>15527270
>tomboy is a degenerate fetish
"Ye gods, remove this disgusting filth. I bet you heathens like hand holding!"
26351b No.15527376
>>15527320
She only gets kidnapped at this point because she likes it. She could beat Bowser singled handedly if she wanted to. Peach is fucked up.
997bf4 No.15527385
>>15527376
Look, the only reason Peach doesn't beat the everloving shit out of her captors is because it would escalate the conflicts with the Koopa Kingdom to the point of open, actual warfare. Far better to simply sit in relatively cushy captivity and let Mario handle the matter than expose the Mushroom Kingdom to a war it clearly can't handle for the sake of personal dignity. I mean, would you trust Toads to be able to hold their own against flying fucking turtles with predatory beaks?
3b8df1 No.15527440
>>15522077
sauce on on pics?
e7451d No.15527483
>>15520582
I have to wonder why 3D women find this sort of style appealing, and why men with bad taste like >>15520705 (and the aforementioned women, no doubt) call it "sexy" when it's just whorish. Disgustingly ugly, the style started with hoochies and West Indian women (frequently those who wanted to show off their emaciatedly skinny legs, this especially in the early 00s) somewhere around the 90s, if not slightly before. White women already had a fine look down, and then somehow, for some reason, latched onto this–and strongly, right at about 2007-8. Truly a symbol of dissipation: the pants are themselves a symbol of sex obsession, women wearing them appearing to wear nothing at all below the waist at times; the flats are a symbol of regression to primitivity, having been initially popular with people from backwater/relatively uncivilized countries. And yet no one notices. Women call it "cute", men stare at asses slack-jawedly to the oblivion of everything else and call it "sexy".
Sage for offtopic.
60527c No.15527501
>>15521065
People who are conscious of this strategy create the windmill to chase. People not conscious of the strategy are the windmill. They're the issue, causing the issue, to have an issue to solve.
This is how they secure their jobs. When a problem is solved, they aren't needed, and fear being fired, when all they had to do was secure their own positions somewhere else.
They have no confidence in their abilities and know that if their skills are evaluated they are suited to no position within the group or company that does not involve solving problems they create. They have placed themselves in the precarious position of the soft social job and cannot accept that it's a momentary temp job.
They need to continue to do talks and secure more of them because they're bad at spending money and bad at applying for a job with their area of expertise, which is to spout opinions instead of studied points, to argue morality to the deaf and to control opinion so no one realizes they're useless.
This is what a human parasite actually is. Someone who is not needed, is detrimental to others, and provides no good service to others in exchange for coin and cash. They instead leech off of society and their fears, biases and pettiness. These people take advantage of the uneducated.
All problems in any country come down to a lack of education and communication.
60527c No.15527509
>>15521474
If that's all you've seen in regards to female characters, you truly are a filthy casual.
82be95 No.15527522
>>15527501
>human parasite
Anon your take on this is misguided. The issue is not parasitism because all human society is symbiotic by nature (and in this regard even at times parasitic). The issue is that the Class stratification has broken down and these people are no longer subjugated thus their nature's been unleashed becomes perverted and grows like a cancer cell.
3a11ea No.15527534
>>15527335
>At least its something.
It's a lot of physical stress since most sports girls play are activities their bodies aren't really meant to handle including lots quick direction changing.
>>15527349
The problem is female hips are not conducive toward running and changing directions while running. Basketball in particular is bad on female knee's and leg tendons.
3a11ea No.15527542
>>15527374
>boyish females isn't degenerate!
Would you say the same thing about effeminate males?
60527c No.15527572
>>15527522
And so what was once symbiotic becomes parasitic. Intended consequences or not the result is still the same.
Malice or stupidity, it just means that the problem is an individual poison or systematic cancer. Fear is a motivator for this shit. But neither is good.
With the rise of the internet some pretty reprehensible folks were given megaphones, and they got brave. What needs to happen and what will happen is that people will learn what the new culture is, what to not trust, and most importantly what to teach their kids.
People seeking to restablish old classes will fail, there's a new system now and new classifications and status is being formed. But in the meantime until this gets sorted out and it will get sorted out, we have to still fight against these people to mitigate the damage in the meantime.
Knowing the reason for why it happened won't prevent a second breakdown when we come across some new culture changing technology like the Internet again. And resorting to extremes to attempt to solve the problem now will only exacerbate it and increase the time it takes for the problem to be solved.
Ultimately trying to grab for power or trying to establish a new social norm in a situation like this is just pissing in the wind. There's nothing to stop what's currently going on, the only thing you CAN do is mitigate damage and suffering. This is a human hurricane, a natural disaster and choice has little to do with it outside of disaster relief.
836039 No.15527590
>>15521474
Enough for what and why do you want them, exactly?
I think just pointing out female characters like >>15520487 is falling into their trap because feminists can just say those are not enough, and then they'll say they're not diverse enough because they're not gay or trans, etc. I'm not even giving you that because your reasons for wanting female characters don't make sense in the first place.
If you mean they're not enough because you want to play as a woman in more games, then the reason is that it's just how the market works. You'll get more female characters when people want to buy them.
If you want more females for equal representation for a feminist political point, then same as above. Companies that make games are not political parties, they're there to sell and make money. That means responding to market trends and doing whatever sells. You're basically bitching about the statistically proven fact that women buy less PC and console games than men, or that only a small portion of those women actually want female main character.
If female main characters sold more, you would have already seen more of them.
82be95 No.15527609
>>15527572
But the problems of this individual poison is systematic cancer produced by liberalism. Particularly when this byproduct is so commonplace that the symptoms can be stereotype and caricatured. If it was just some nominalistic one-off "individualistic" phenomenon, then the problem would not likely be easily diagnosed.
82be95 No.15527610
9d696f No.15527611
>>15526194
>What makes a strong woman are virtues completely different from what makes a strong man.
This is true, but you can easily create a female character that exemplifies masculine virtue without it undermining her femininity at all. Masculine and feminine virtue are closer to being orthogonal than they are to being opposed. The problem is that the left rejects the concept of virtue entirely and doesn't want women to be held to any standards at all, which will naturally lead them to create female characters that everyone else hates.
26351b No.15527613
>>15527501
>All problems in any country come down to a lack of education and communication.
A country without naturally stupid or violent people maybe. You can lead a horse to water.
f73126 No.15527697
>>15527590
jade is black, maya is japanese, Terra's father is a magical esper who was black and in game persona 2 Jun is clearly a faggot. Seriously are they fucking blind?
These games are decades old too the only reason i can think of why they don't know em is because they jumped onto fucking bandwagon and refuse to look into the past.
As for this faggot look at >>15520487 and >>15520515
Seriously games for days its not our fault you're too stupid you can't find video games with Female player characters.
60527c No.15527701
>>15527609
When it's both stupidity and malice, stupidity is enabling malice. the fact that you can identify and stereotype malicious action is indicitive of stupidity and ignorance of such problems in regards to maliciousness being the problem. The degree of stereotypes and the prevalence of them being the deciding factor.
The problem is not easily diagnosed in this situation either. The problem is ultimately extreme polarization of two sides of a political argument, but the causes can be found.
My hypothesis is that the cause is due to a rapid shift in information confusion, not caused by individuals since this sort of problem requires willing group participation, but rather that the internet has allowed mass contact and the novelty hasn't worn off yet, even now. And it's compounded by the housing bubble crises, people are worried for income and with it came a shift in employment practices, job to job instead of employment stasis at one job for a start.
So, with the internet, everyone is in view. This massive influx of information has overloaded some people. News media capitalized on this by doubling down on their "Blood, Sex, Fear" story strats to keep people watching, but the rise of alternative news sources due to the internet made their once effective strategy seem less effective since people are now getting their news from elsewhere so stats are down, so they double down, go too far, and get mocked heavily.
You see where this is going? There's too many factors to play around here. My argument is that the diagnosis is as useful as as diagnosing someone with an obvious cold with a cough.
The diagnosis will not matter here. This isn't something that can be solved, this isn't a problem with a solution, only treatments. We can diagnose all day, but the only thing we can do, what ANYONE can do, is to calm people down, de-politicize, and wait for everyone else to do the same.
This isn't going to get solved by caring about the problem, this is going to be solved by desensitizing people, giving them confidence and soothing nerves. Treating people as people instead of animals, encouraging others to do the same.
The only thing that can solve this is to be a better person yourself, to be an example of a put-together human being, and to call out bullshit where it stands. Not trying to blow away a hurricane.
f73126 No.15527737
>As for this faggot >>15521474 look at >>15527697 to find the games right for you.
26351b No.15527742
>>15527737
That's obvious bait. No one here is ignorant enough to think there are only three women in all of video games.
60527c No.15527748
>>15527742
People who've been told as such and accepted it do. You would be surprised.
>"HARRY POTTER IS WITCHCRAFT", "D&D IS THE DEVIL'S GAME!".
It doesn't have to be religious, i've personally seen some pretty ignorant people in my life. You see them more often on the internet and yes some of those aren't real, but they do exist.
26351b No.15527762
>>15527748
None of those people are posting on /v/.
f73126 No.15527763
>>15527742
tell that to all the women crawling out of the wood works crying for representation. They were always represented they just didn't want to play games until it became mainstream, and they were too retarded to use google or look into the past. Game journalists were no better. Heres another fun game thats also had lesbians.
ef2ff9 No.15527766
>>15523625
>He doesn't know sluts do this so they can get impregnated
Are you that mentally incapable?
836039 No.15527771
>>15527697
Did you mean to reply to somebody else?
f73126 No.15527775
>>15527771
yeah sorry i meant to reply to the person you were replying to.
82be95 No.15527783
>>15527701
Your analysis is incorrect because the presumptions that are fundamental to the architecture of your model is based on liberalism and a false dichotomy of individualism vs collectivism. While I agree that the freedom information certainly has to lead to the unraveling of this homogeneous worldview in western popular culture its not information in and of itself that threatens liberalism. Liberalism is doomed to be undermined by its very submissive nature, the need for regulation on speech is just an instantiation of this fragility. It follows from what you propose logically that censorship is necessary to protect the public interest, yet censorship will not prohibit what really threatens to undermine Modern Republics. A combination of internal contradictions that make the society weak, and the pressures from external forces that are unrelenting and unsympathetic to these hedonistic secular values. Liberalism was strong as long at it profited off of the fruit of Christendom but once the common faith was subverted fully the societies began to unravel. Individuals are not parasitic, Liberalism and the bankers who promoted liberalism are the parasites. People are merely acting in accordance to their nature unrestrained thanks to the liberties provided by Modernity. The man you see in (pic related) is a byproduct of modernity, a creature that would not exist if not for the propaganda machine that produced him.
82be95 No.15527794
ce2a8b No.15527969
>>15527783
I think in your eagerness to fix the problems of society, you take a more authoritarian approach, which history has proven time and time again almost always leads to the absolute destruction of a civilization. The incredibly authoritarian societies generally are able to sustain themselves through conquest and subjugation (there is not a single influential empire in the history of the world that did not preserve its legacy by conquering territory, either near or far, and either killing or enslaving the vast majority of its conquered population). A state run solution to the problem falls into the same traps that progressives do, in that if you have absolute political control of a society, humanity will naturally follow given time.
The problem is that in order to ensure total political control, there must necessarily be some degree of economic control, which brings you to the exact goal of what progressives want. Humanity in general tends to "fall in line" over a period of time, but only if 1. Daily conditions are bearable enough that rebellion isn't an ongoing concern 2. "Choice" is given to them (its doesn't necessarily matter if the choices are actually different, only that they appear to be), and 3. Both of these things remain true for several generations. If any one of these things fails, society will instantly begin to revolt against the government.
And this is assuming things are in a vacuum. The second a wide-scale rebellion happens in a country, all of the neighboring countries are going to start "liberating" parts of the country and supporting the active rebellion as much as feasibly possible.
You are correct in that liberalism will eventually unravel itself without the core of Christendom to support it, but this is most societies without a lack of "belief". During the French Revolution, Robespierre and the other revolutionaries eventually were driven to start a "cult of freedom", complete with "the goddess of freedom", simply because they could not maintain order without a unifying religion.
The overall point that I'm getting at is that liberalism isn't the destroyer of civilizations, lack of belief is.
And before you state "what about China/ Japan/ Korea"… Japan and Korea both are under the influence of Western culture and by extension Christendom, and China is rapidly approaching this (Christianity is the fastest growing religion in China by far).
3a11ea No.15527978
>>15527611
>This is true, but you can easily create a female character that exemplifies masculine virtue without it undermining her femininity at all.
Such a character is not truly female. Sure she may not be offensively mannish, and in fact may appear completely feminine aside from some aberrations, but it isn't representative of female virtue and it isn't really a good thing in general. Such characters have been used as the grease for the slippery slope for decades.
ce2a8b No.15527982
>>15527969
Also as an addendum to my second paragraph, yes it is possible to control a populace by keeping them so weak and infirm that they literally cannot resist the government, but I was under the impression that a "nationalist" government of this type wants the exact opposite of this.
f63d30 No.15528024
>>15527978
And this kind of retarded shit is why the West will never be able to create any worthwhile female characters. Too busy going through various political fever dreams.
3a11ea No.15528054
>>15528024
If you have a "good feminine character" who just so happens to be courageous and fight in battles then it isn't much of a step for the next iteration to be a bit more badass, a bit more courageous, a bit more assertive, a bit more of a leader, a bit more aggressive, a bit more the focus, a bit more better compared to the male characters. The article quoted in the OP illustrates this effect perfectly "It's not enough."
Also you are blind if you think Japan is free of this same slippery slope. It just is harder to shift Japan toward feminist bullshit because of cultural differences and less of a jew infestation. Nip companies aren't caving to localization because of ignorance, they are going in the same direction, but are just on a different part of the curve.
ba4a6f No.15528078
>>15527969
>happy mediums are impossible
You're retarded. Anarcho-capitalist minarchism and communist totalitarian oligarchy are not the only options, nor are they regressive situations. A government that has hard control over an explicit list of things and which will explicitly be removed/executed for treason if it goes outside this list can easily stand for long periods, and can easily allow necessary freedoms to its citizens.
58d7a5 No.15528088
If you want your personal vision of your ideal female character go write your own because harassing existing writers will hopefully fucking backfire eventually. I'm waiting for the devs to just get tired of being hounded on by fucking secondaries every other week, how can this be viewed as acceptable anymore
813c07 No.15528111
>>15527542
nice false equivalency there, m90
3a11ea No.15528132
>>15528111
>masculine girls have nothing in common with effeminate boys
Both are degenerate. Just like you, fag.
00d93f No.15528133
>>15527483
Stop being a faggot, scantily clad women are sexy.
b4a62b No.15528136
>>15520465
Ah yes, lets destroy the only hobby that contains the violent tendencies of boys and young men.
I can't wait till this fucks them over in a generation.
82be95 No.15528154
>>15527969
>if you're not a liberal, then you are evil bad bad
What is with this presumption? Moreover, who can you pretend to be a Christian if you reject the authority of God? What authority does any society derive if not from a transcendent Authority? Yes, it true that compelled behavior is not virtuous behavior thus one needs to be granted free will to choose goodness. But to prohibit good people from ordering their society towards the higher ideals and in alignment with the natural order is foolish. Moreover, I think your uncharitable characterization of "authoritarian societies" is born out of historical ignorance and ignores the hidden authoritarian powers that govern liberal democracies without accountability because they can obfuscate their duties by hiding behind the pretenses that the accountability because they can obfuscate their duties by hiding behind the pretense that the commoner (who is enslaved to their passions) truly has any power.
3a11ea No.15528155
>>15528136
They plan to contain it in the future with large doses of estrogen.
813c07 No.15528156
>>15528132
>effeminate boys are just like […] girls
82be95 No.15528163
because they can obfuscate their duties by hiding behind the pretenses that the accountability
9d696f No.15528176
>>15527978
>>15528054
You're not paying attention. The problem with the "strong female character" stereotype is not that she possesses masculine virtue (she doesn't, in fact–the thing the SFC is designed to have is agency without responsibility), it's that she lacks feminine virtue.
3a11ea No.15528188
>>15528156
>implying I said just like
Both are shifted from their natural sexual characteristics to varying degrees. Keep on defending your faggotry though. You want boyish girls and are trying to act like this doesn't make you a faggot.
813c07 No.15528196
>>15528188
>being a humongous faggot
<n-no y-y-you
3a11ea No.15528200
>>15528176
Having some masculine virtue requires losing some feminine virtue.
9d696f No.15528203
>>15528200
I contend that it does not. Read "The Necessity of Chivalry" by C.S. Lewis for an exploration of this from the male perspective.
3a11ea No.15528205
>>15528196
Okay, whatever. Last (you) that you are getting from me. Go bother someone else with your faggoty non-arguments.
3820f7 No.15528207
>>15528188
Men and women are polar opposites. And we both agree that men having features similar to the opposite gender is bad. Now what does this say about women?
813c07 No.15528212
>>15528205
As opposed to your well-reasoned arguments as to why tomboys are gay? Being wordy doesn't make you look smart.
3a11ea No.15528215
>>15528203
I do not think I will be doing that. Why don't you put an argument forward on this subject yourself? If I venture a guess about the direction you are going regarding "chivalry" I would contend that none of that is at all feminine. I would contend that some of it is natural inclinations of men toward women and some of it was taken to the extreme by proto-feminists.
82be95 No.15528217
>>15528196
but that >>15528156 was an excellent point if boys and girls are categorically different by nature. Then an effeminate boy is still a boy, and an effeminate girl is still a girl. If boys liking boys is gay, and boy's liking girls are not gay; then if you are a male and like boys you are a gay and if you like masculine females you are not a gay. QED
9d696f No.15528225
>>15528207
>Men and women are polar opposites
No. Virtue and vice are opposites, men and women are complements.
Masculine virtue (courage, for instance) is opposed by feminine vice (cowardice) and complemented by feminine virtue (devotion), while feminine virtue is opposed by masculine vice and complemented by masculine virtue.
82be95 No.15528226
>effeminate girl
you know what I met
593918 No.15528232
>>15526194
>>15526579
>>15527978
Yeah, ok, women in real life are neurotic baby makers who have the mental capacity of a male retard, it's wired in our brains and probably necessary to keep society running, but why should that be an ideal to strive towards in fiction? If men in fiction can slay dragons and lift boulders, you can give women a few brain cells and have them do things other than their nails.
3a11ea No.15528234
>>15528217
So in your opinion is getting pegged by a plastic dick not gay because a woman is wearing it? Sorry, but it's gay for a male to want male elements involved with himself sexually. The addition of feminine elements or a female with masculine elements doesn't negate that fact. You don't cancel out the faggotry with the addition of a female like you are tipping some invisible scales.
813c07 No.15528242
>>15528234
Not particularly into pegging, myself, but yes, the fact that there's no man involved makes it inherently not-gay. Weird, maybe, but not gay.
82be95 No.15528245
>>15528234
>So your opinion is a strawman that I made up just to uncharitably mischaracterize your position?
that isn't even a well constructed reductio ad absurdum.
3a11ea No.15528246
>>15528232
Women being feminine isn't the same as being retarded and "just doing their nails." Also, why do you specifically want women to be more than what they are in fiction? The things men do in fiction like fighting dragons or lifting boulders are based around things men do in real life, fighting dangerous things and lifting heavy objects. You aren't creating some fantastical improvement to what women already can do. You are creating some fantastical thing that they never do. Again, what is the reason? Is it because you can't value them unless they are doing male things?
3a11ea No.15528257
>>15528242
>taking a plastic dick up my ass isn't gay
>i'm not into that though, heh heh
>>15528245
>it doesn't apply because it shows how gay it is!
593918 No.15528266
>>15528234
Ah, that's where you're wrong. Pegging is in fact dominant for a male. Think about it. The man's the only one getting physical pleasure from it. That piece of plastic isn't doing anything for the woman.
>>15528246
>Is it because you can't value them unless they are doing male things?
Well, being a man it's only natural for me to value male things and not understand what's going on in a woman's head, so maybe?
813c07 No.15528275
>>15528257
Do you ever stop being a faggot?
Is it a hobby? Or is it like a 9-5?
Do you clock out at the end of the day?
3a11ea No.15528280
>>15528266
>Ah, that's where you're wrong. Pegging is in fact dominant for a male. Think about it. The man's the only one getting physical pleasure from it. That piece of plastic isn't doing anything for the woman.
<implying she isn't getting off on dominating a man sexually
Hmm
>Well, being a man it's only natural for me to value male things and not understand what's going on in a woman's head, so maybe?
That is wrong. There are things that are natural for a woman that should attract you as a male and give her value. I'm not just talking about having tits and a pussy either. Having things that you value in men shouldn't be the only things you value in people period otherwise you really are a faggot.
82be95 No.15528281
>>15528257
No it doesn't apply because its not even remotely relevant to my position. I oppose all sodomy and sodomy is essentially all sex acts not for reproduction. Moreover, a "Masculine woman" does not imply dildos, but rather a Woman with masculine secondary characteristics. The primary characteristics of the person are Female by the nature of the fact that they are unquestionably categorically a woman. Likewise, I would argue that women are not gay for being attracted to "Effeminate" women. The fact that you need to resort to dildos just reflects how twisted your mind is.
82be95 No.15528287
>>15528281
> I would argue that women are not gay for being attracted to "Effeminate" women
what the fuck!
I meant to type:
"I would argue that women are not gay for being attracted to "Effeminate: men"
3820f7 No.15528292
>>15528225
You're defeating your own point here by reclassifying the argument as being about virtues and vices. Virtues are unilaterally beneficial, vices unilaterally negative. A man can be devoted to his family (by your own definition a female virtue) without being a faggot. You can add virtues of either gender to the other gender in certain measures without detracting from them. A man who cooks is universally seen as a benefit by women, a tomboy is universally seen as a benefit by men. Provided they aren't faggots.
3a11ea No.15528295
>>15528281
You have either lost track of where this conversation began or are purposely doing so. I'm sorry but if you want a female that dresses and acts like a man then you are a bit of a fag. You may not be a flaming faggot who's okay with admitting it to himself, but you are attracted sexually to male characteristics.
d14cc6 No.15528297
>>15528275
>>15528280
What type of repressed sodomite likes being anally penetrated?
Even if you aren't necessarily attracted to men, its still sodomistic as fuck and is sexually deviant.
Cleanse thyself, degenerates.
9d696f No.15528300
>>15528292
>You can add virtues of either gender to the other gender in certain measures without detracting from them. A man who cooks is universally seen as a benefit by women, a tomboy is universally seen as a benefit by men.
Yes, that's been my point this whole time. Masculine virtue and feminine virtue do not oppose each other and can exist within the same person.
3a11ea No.15528301
>>15528292
Being devoted to your family isn't a female virtue. It is a human virtue.
82be95 No.15528316
>>15528295
are you retarded? Do you understand Classical categorization? Do you know that when something is categorically a woman does not cease to be a woman just because it behaves like a man? Why are you defending this tranny shit? Do you honestly believe if a man cuts off his cock and puts on lipstick that its no longer a man?
3820f7 No.15528318
>>15528301
You yourself assigned it as a female virtue, so you admit you were wrong?
And having hobbies, going out in nature, and the like are human virtues as well. Guess being a tomboy is a human virtue.
d14cc6 No.15528321
Who cares about tomboys. I've seen complete low life betas defend interracial/bestiality, NTR, futa, and guro on here.
Tomboys is nothing compared to the absolute depravity of the most degenerate poz sheep on this very board.
3a11ea No.15528360
>>15528316
I never said or even implied that a masculine woman ceases to be a woman. I said that being attracted to a masculine woman is gay. In particular gayer than being attracted to a feminine woman.
>>15528318
>You yourself assigned it as a female virtue, so you admit you were wrong?
No I did not implicitly say in broad terms that being devoted to your family is a female virtue. I said specifically in what way female virtues are applied to family devotion. A male virtue regarding family is to provide for them and protect them. A female virtue regarding family is to nurture and care. A male virtue regarding family is to lead his family. A female virtue regarding family is to trust and respect her husband.
3a11ea No.15528364
>>15528321
I can agree with that. I didn't even bring up tomboys. Some sensitive anons did so.
3820f7 No.15528397
>>15528360
<I did not say exactly what I said above
<also traps are less gay than tomboys
<and I'm going to ignore the fact that tomboy traits are just general virtues, such as doing sports and being an active outdoorsy type, because that doesn't fit my arguments
Whelp, it's a good thing you gave up trying to argue at all since I'm off to bed. Anyone who still takes anything you say seriously after this atrocious display of argumentation needs to reconsider their life choices.
3a11ea No.15528401
>>15528397
>you said what I want you to say! no I won't bother with a quote!
>male traits are general virtues! equality is real damn it!
Yeah, whatever you want to believe faggot.
58d7a5 No.15528434
>>15528321
>Who cares about tomboys
I do
593918 No.15528440
All right, allow me to be a bit more serious and go back to my previous point now that I've had time to think. not the pegging though, that's a whole other can of worms
>why do you specifically want women to be more than what they are in fiction?
>You are creating some fantastical thing that they never do. Again, what is the reason?
Why are fighting women in fiction a thing? Now that I think about it, it's very simple. The things women do don't make for entertaining fiction. The most important thing in fiction is the conflict. In real life, combatants are all men, of course, and there's not always a good reason to give their wives at home screen time. Telling a story only about men and exploring themes thereof is fine, but when you add women you can have gender dynamics and more perspectives between the characters, so you put women on the front lines, realism be damned. For what it's worth, in the vast majority of fantasy settings, gender roles still exist, just not 1 to 1 with real life: men are still portrayed as beefier and women with unwomanly physiques are special cases; Kings are still the most important, women aren't in positions of power unless their gimmick is that they're a dominatrix type; fighting women usually fight in ways that are agreed upon as more feminine such as magic, bows (which is funny because archers are actually extremely strong to be able to handle their bowstrings), or "graceful" melee weapons like whips and daggers.
ba4a6f No.15528462
>>15527000
>strawman, because he can't justify his faggotry
>reducto ad absurdum fallacy because he can't justify his faggotry
>false dichotomy because he can't justify his faggotry
Totally gay, bro.
>>>/reddit/
d14cc6 No.15528466
>>15528434
Understandable. I meant all the bickering about tomboys is worthless. The last thing you should be complaining about is tomboys during this time and age.
Considering tomboys are really great tbh.
58d7a5 No.15528474
>>15528466
>The last thing you should be complaining about is tomboys during this time and age.
I only complain about the lack of tomboys, which is actually a little less about them being my preferred kind of girl and more about how girls were never promoted to have hobbies or skills at all. There's a lotta women, and hell men too out there who really just fill the NPC stereotype but women are worse for it because even a complete normalfag man might go watch a sports game with his friends but the idea of a hobby to a lot of women was "netflix and food"
82be95 No.15528475
>>15528360
but being attracted to women is not gay and masculine women are still categorically women. I really don't understand why you are trying to blur lines and shift the goal post. I don't understand why you are trying to redefine the term "Gay" to include heterosexuality. Bayonetta is clearly a masculine woman. Vid related is also women behaving in a masculine manner. Nothing gay about liking women.
517069 No.15528488
>>15528475
>Bayonetta is clearly a masculine woman
813c07 No.15528492
>>15528462
He literally said I was samefagging because we both brought up tomboys around the same time.
Reductio ad absurdum is not a fallacy you retarded nigger.
In response to that other anon and me bringing up tomboys, he responded by saying that liking men with tits is gay and this entire time, he has been arguing that a women's place is solely as a domestic housewife who is incapable of caring for herself because her man should take care of her solely. How is this a false dichotomy?
58d7a5 No.15528509
>>15528502
must we keep fucking posting this
c55ee4 No.15528511
>>15528475
>THOT does reverse dead-lift
>yeast infection discharge soaks her pad, panties, and bloomers (((goyshorts)))
~OwO I WHIZH SHE WUZ MAI GOYIL~
The absolute state of (((The WeiMark Republic)))
659f70 No.15528513
>>15528509
Every day until /leftypol/ is dead, and this website is a nigger-free land.
3a11ea No.15528521
>>15528440
If it simply made for entertaining fiction there would be a lot of examples of it prior to feminism.
3a11ea No.15528537
>>15528474
>girls were never promoted to have hobbies or skills at all
Girls have hobbies. You don't find them interesting because you aren't a girl. So why exactly do you need girls to engage in male hobbies/skills? So you can pretend that they are your bro or what?
>>15528475
Being attracted to women is not gay. Being attracted to women with masculine traits is gay. Otherwise you are attracted to them inspite of the masculine traits and would prefer them not to have said traits, but then you wouldn't be defending them having it and how totally not gay it is to want masculine women.
>>15528492
>we just brought it up at the same time out of nowhere!
Okay maybe you didn't samefag. Maybe you are just really sensitive about your fetish.
58d7a5 No.15528549
>>15528537
>Girls have hobbies.
netflix reruns of the office isn't a hobby
bcc0db No.15528550
>>15528521
>He's never heard of Freyjis Eriksdotter or Macbeth's wife
bcc0db No.15528555
>>15528550
>>15528521
oh shit how could i forget scathach
Anyway there's actually a ton of examples of exactly that. They're typically either bad guys or get redeemed by the power of the D.
813c07 No.15528559
>>15528537
>being attracted to women […] is gay
"What are you a faggot? I bet you like to kiss girls, queer!"
58d7a5 No.15528563
>>15528513
to my understanding, /leftypol/ loves shit like this so I don't see how posting the gross shit they like will make them leave
3a11ea No.15528565
>>15528550
>I can apply it if I stretch the criteria to the limit and pretend a couple examples are "many"
bcc0db No.15528585
>>15528565
>if i insist any number of examples of evidence counter to my argument are just 'a couple' then i'll never have to address these counterexamples!
And sure, go ahead, feel free to try to explain how a murderous violent bitch that the sagas felt the need to point out repeatedly was weirdly masculine, or a chick called the fucking warrior maid who trained the hero in spearfighting, or a chick who mocked her husband for being less manly than her aren't examples of women acting manly or being warriors.
3a11ea No.15528593
>>15528585
>any number
>named 3
>stretched the qualification of "made for entertaining fiction"
3a11ea No.15528598
>>15528585
Accidentally posted too soon, but the point is you have hundreds or thousands post feminism and maybe a handful pre feminism. Apparently the overwhelming majority didn't find it entertaining until mass jewish media started forcing it out.
593918 No.15528601
>>15528521
Women in fiction is more common after feminism because people in antiquity just wouldn't have considered the possibility. People write about what they know, and for the last 100+ years, for better or worse we live in a world where women live and work alongside men, and in the economy we're in women can't just stop working. People now actually expect women to be in fiction because that's what they see in real life. Moreover, feminism itself is a symptom, not a cause. During WW1, some women had to take jobs because they're husbands were overseas, and that was a bit launching point for feminism. In VIDEO GAMES specifically, unless it's a puzzle game or walking simulator, the goal is to fight the bad guys. If you want a female character to play a role in the main party she has to participate in combat, even if as a healer or some such.
bcc0db No.15528610
>>15528593
>Shakespeare isn't entertaining fiction
>Mythology isn't entertaining fiction
>>15528598
> hundreds or thousands post feminism and maybe a handful pre feminism
Alright, fine, I'll play the same logical fallacy you're playing. If feminism actually existed, there'd be hundreds of thousands of examples of strong warrior women in media. But there aren't, so clearly, feminism doesn't exist.
3a11ea No.15528613
>>15528601
>Women in fiction is more common after feminism because people in antiquity just wouldn't have considered the possibility
Fighting women still isn't a possibility. It is a comically disastrous idea. You are also arguing against the other anon who is saying that it's been part of all human history or some shit to write about warrior womyn.
>for better or worse we live in a world where women live and work alongside men
This was artificially enduced by feminism
>we're in women can't just stop working
Due to devaluing the labor market by their presence.
3a11ea No.15528622
>>15528610
>Shakespeare has to entertain you
>Mythology(tm) has to entertain you
Sorry that I am not you. This is also irrelevant and quasi goalpost moving.
>Alright, fine, I'll play the same logical fallacy you're playing.
You have your own problems. Like claiming a logical fallacy without pointing it out.
>If feminism actually existed, there'd be hundreds of thousands of examples of strong warrior women in media. But there aren't, so clearly, feminism doesn't exist.
Now you are being disingenuous. I never set the bar anywhere fucking close to hundreds of thousands. You also highlight how laughable your argument is since post feminism is where the vastly overwhelming majority of warrior women in entertainment appear.
813c07 No.15528626
>>15528610
<THAT'S REDUCTIO AD ABSURDUM
<DO I SOUND SMART WHEN I USE WORDS THAT I CLEARLY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHEN A SIMPLE GOOGLE SEARCH WOULD TELL ME HOW MUCH OF A FUCKING IDIOT I AM?
593918 No.15528638
>>15528613
>You are also arguing against the other anon who is saying that it's been part of all human history or some shit to write about warrior womyn.
Good thing I'm neither him nor making that argument.
>This was artificially enduced by feminism
>Due to devaluing the labor market by their presence.
Fiat currency was also artificially induced by central banks but we can't just stop using it overnight, unless you want to put your whole net worth in crypto. Market forces are a bitch.
>>15528622
>Shakespeare has to entertain you
Well, certainly not has to, but that was its purpose. Just because it's damn good art doesn't mean Shakespeare's plays weren't entertainment for the common man.
3a11ea No.15528651
>>15528638
>Fiat currency was also artificially induced by central banks but we can't just stop using it overnight, unless you want to put your whole net worth in crypto. Market forces are a bitch.
You are right that there is no easy fix. That doesn't change what started the problem though.
>Well, certainly not has to, but that was its purpose. Just because it's damn good art doesn't mean Shakespeare's plays weren't entertainment for the common man.
I never said it wasn't entertaining for anyone. It has absolutely nothing to do with the argument whether I find it entertaining or not. It was nothing more than twisting what I said and trying to use my supposed lack of culture for appreciating such entertainment as a detriment against my argument.
bcc0db No.15528692
>>15528622
So, suddenly, is the definition of entertaining fiction "fiction that has to entertain" rather that fiction intended to entertain? Are the dick jokes in Shakespeare too high-brow for it to qualify as 'entertaining fiction?' The entire character of Macbeth's wife was invented by Shakespeare and based on nothing but what would attract audiences. There's similarly zero to no evidence that Scathach, Aife, or the Gae Bolg ever actually existed, and were simply created for entertaining myths, as myths and legends WERE the entertaining fiction of that time.
> I never set the bar anywhere fucking close to hundreds of thousands
You said 'hundreds or thousands.' Those were your exact words. So, then, let's hear those hundreds or thousands of examples as proof feminism exists, else I can simply dismiss any examples you cite as 'only a couple.' Oh, or does that logical fallacy only count as valid when you're using it? Is that how it works? If it is, then you lack the basic ability to reason and there's no point in speaking with you.
>>15528651
>my supposed lack of culture
Now this is an interesting admission. Never once did I bring up your lack of culture. I simply whipped out three chicks off the top of my head related to media I recently consumed. I take it, then, that you were completely unaware of the mythological trope of a warrior woman getting beaten in a fight and dicked by the hero and that's why you're trying to force me to come up with a long and tedious itemized list of names?
Ah, there's another good example whose name popped into my head! Amazons! They were completely fictitious and thought to have been invented by potters as a means of selling pots with tits on them. Oh, and there's also Elli from the Prose Edda who humiliated Thor in a wrestling match.
593918 No.15528720
>>15528692
>amazons
Allow me to play doubles advocate. The amazons were considered rare, exotic, an anomaly. In today's world, women in active roles (not just warriors, and role that's not a homemaker) isn't considered nearly as rare as a tribe isolated from civilization, quite the opposite.
bcc0db No.15528738
>>15528720
>The amazons were considered rare, exotic, an anomaly.
No. No they were fucking not. They were considered a FUCKING FICTION because THEY NEVER GODDAMN EXISTED YOU FUCKING RETARD.
WOMEN DO NOT MAKE GOOD WARRIORS
THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A FUCKING TRIBE OF WOMEN WARRIORS
THE ENTIRE FUCKING POINT OF SEXUAL DIMORPHISM K-TYPE SELECTED SPECIES IS TO HAVE ONE GENDER FIGHT AND CLEAR THE LAND SO THAT THE OTHER GENDER CAN BE A BABY FACTORY
NOT ONLY DID THEY NEVER EXIST, THEY WERE NEVER THOUGHT TO EXIST WHEN THEY WERE CONTEMPORARY FICTION
THEY WERE INVENTED SO THAT POTTERS COULD SELL PORN
593918 No.15528759
>>15528738
Woah dude, all I'm trying to say is that in that time strong women in fiction wasn't something people were actively looking for nearly as much as today. No one was asking "What if the protagonist of [novel] was an empowered womyn instead of a problematic man?" like people do about movies today.
e7451d No.15528764
>>15528133
So, what you're saying is that you can't find a woman appealing without her clothes off? The more clothing she has on, the less detail you see of a comely woman? A woman has no beauty unless she's wearing nothing? A woman is only appealing when she's "sexy", right?
You're certainly an example of the mindless sex obsession gripping the West. Either that or you're still wrapped in immaturity. There's a time and place for everything–including sex and sexual appeal. It's not all the time and everywhere for those two, as leftists would have you believe. Even worse, you play into their hands by being drawn only to women exhibiting "sexiness" (read: salaciousness)–who, themselves, do so because of the same Western popular culture that encourages that in all they do, including their choice of attire; it also encourages their next move: to gripe about the "sexism" of men, about the men that see them only as the sex objects they parade themselves as.
Elegant ladies, adorable girls with irresistible cuteness, wholesome women with a down-to-earth, girl-next-door vibe–all that's unpopular, largely vanished in favor of the world-traveling could-be tart who believes she's more empowered the more she gets plowed, who dresses the part. And guys like you enable this sort of thing.
Sage for off-topic.
813c07 No.15528767
>>15528759
No, Anon, you don't understand:
You were wrong on the internet
d14cc6 No.15528772
>>15528537
>Being attracted to women with masculine traits is gay
Just like being attracted to effeminate benis makes you straight, right?
865e8b No.15528778
Shoot the gays, burn the niggers.
If there's nothing for these freaks and cat ladies to cry over, maybe they'll stop.
865e8b No.15528785
>>15528475
>I really don't understand why you are trying to blur lines and shift the goal post.
Deep down you know why he's doing it.
And he needs to go back to cuckchan.
f14960 No.15528828
The absolute state of these people. If anything gaming has become feminized and there are many females out there playing games and games with female protagonist or pro female. Most male protagonist are cucked fools that are obviously designed with a post-modern definition of what a man should be. In otherwords:
-A man never has the point of view that women should be in the kitchen or that they are inferior to them
-His priori is locked and it's always about the female
-Save the princess
-Some girl gives the main character life/hope and sets him off in an adventure
-Male protagonist is never pro-active, I think the only game where I felt the main character was doing his shit was Grandia II
Japanese games are notorious for this shit. There are only a handful of games where the protagonist is an actual adult not design by post-modern thought.
000000 No.15528829
>>15528610
Alright, how about this logical fallacy ponyfag
113ac9 No.15528878
>>15521443
I fucking LOVE this video.
I showed it to a radical feminist and she's given up on it now and her favorite character so far is Rydia.
593918 No.15528898
>>15528828
>-Save the princess
>-Some girl gives the main character life/hope and sets him off in an adventure
How is that postmodern? That's just perfectly normal storytelling having some kind of mother/waifu figure. And aren't the es jay dubyas the ones who have a problem with saving the damsel in distress and how it objectifies womyn?
>-His priori is locked and it's always about the female
If it's in a "I need to protect my sister/girlfirend" way that's not postmodern either, that's what a man does. I can't name a game where it's in a "male feminist womyn empowering" way.
>-Male protagonist is never pro-active, I think the only game where I felt the main character was doing his shit was Grandia II
That's due to JRPGs mostly being coming-of-age stories. The protagonist acts like a kid because he is a kid, or at least starts as one. Older men who get shit done from still exist if you look for them, pic related.
f14960 No.15528939
>>15528898
>How is that postmodern? That's just perfectly normal storytelling having some kind of mother/waifu figure. And aren't the es jay dubyas the ones who have a problem with saving the damsel in distress and how it objectifies womyn?
Because it's synonymous with the white knight syndrome.
>If it's in a "I need to protect my sister/girlfirend" way that's not postmodern either, that's what a man does. I can't name a game where it's in a "male feminist womyn empowering" way.
It might as well be just an extension of the damsel in distress. It still prioritices females, while in this particular case it is regarding family, it will be done with the intention or prop up of the female character.
>That's due to JRPGs mostly being coming-of-age stories. The protagonist acts like a kid because he is a kid, or at least starts as one. Older men who get shit done from still exist if you look for them, pic related.
No small boy unless they are already indoctrinated cucks from a small young age in first world countries acts the way those young kids act in Japanese games. Never did we act that fucking goofy and dumb and never were we afraid of females, it was the opposite, it was mostly young boys who pushed themselves towards the girls and it was the girls that were shy. The reason it is mostly done is because Japan is infatuated with infantilism since those are supposedly the best years of their lives before they turn into corporate drones. They already have a weak mentality placed in them after WW2. And ever since Romanticism and the Victorian age, the West hasn't yet broken out of it's cucked state.
I'll look up your boy and see what he's all about. I already see the same nonsense trope with female in the party, etc.
436530 No.15528982
>>15521474
>Lara Croft is the only other badass
Not anymore, the reboot made sure of that.
8cc5fd No.15528997
>>15523164
>Estelle is second fiddle to Joshua
>barely in the first two thirds of the second game
really makes me think
58d7a5 No.15529002
>>15528982
lets not forget that new lara has been "becoming the legendary lara croft" for three games now with no signs of development
000000 No.15529018
>>15529002
Well, thats different. Thats them trying to make an origin story that doesnt suck
8cc5fd No.15529030
>>15528321
How could anybody actually defend NTR, maybe netori but not NTR.
58d7a5 No.15529037
>>15529018
>trying
I don't know if that work can even be used now since this is reaching next-level incompetence. That or they just don't know how to make her "the legendary lara croft" without just making her back into the original Lara.
82be95 No.15529070
>>15528488
>Bayonetta is clearly a masculine woman
While she doesn't have masculine features, her behavior is very masculine. The Warrior-woman/Amazon-princess trope is a masculine woman. Here whole personal is essentially hyper masculinity warped in a seductive outfit.
>>15528502
>/leftypol/ Board owner post himself sucking cock in hopes to "trigger the Nazis" on /v/
can (you) at least spoiler your gay shit?
>>15528537
Anon, masculine women are not women who look like men. Women with "masculine" traits is not an aesthetic its a persona. Finding the "tomboy" attractive is perfectly natural because despite wearing boyish clothing and liking sports the girl is still a woman. What is "gay" is not wanting to reproduce and have children with an attractive mate of the opposite sex.
>>15528785
Some things even corrective rape can't fix.
82be95 No.15529077
8cc5fd No.15529084
>>15529070
>3dpd
you need to go back
000000 No.15529093
>>15529037
Maybe they forgot what made Lara so legendary to begin with
82be95 No.15529115
>>15529084
That rule is only for pedo's.
e46fa7 No.15529128
>>15528297
Male g-spot is actually in the anus.
e941ad No.15529131
>>15529115
That's pretty hot
60527c No.15529135
>>15527762
None of the religious ones, no, but stupid comes in all categories.
697192 No.15529772
>>15529128
g-spot is a jewish conspiracy to sell toys
8cc5fd No.15529835
da45c2 No.15529885
>>15529772
>tfw the jewish conspiracy put loads of nerve endings in my ass
100bc3 No.15529906
>>15529885
>only 6 jews died in the holocaust
da45c2 No.15529986
>>15529906
*only 6 jews with souls died in the holocaust
a41f35 No.15529988
>>15529986
In jewish lore, only jews have souls. So the picture implies 6 jews died.
3876a4 No.15529989
cc2dcf No.15529995
>>15529885
>Jews revise the holocaust itself.
six jews dying in the holocaust is incredibly realistic, im sure some got sick and died or died during allied bombing.
945b7c No.15530136
>>15529885
>>15529906
Or maybe it takes one million souls to make a regular jewish soul.
73cd25 No.15530140
Feminists unironically deserve the rope.
74dacf No.15530150
>>15523658
>that picture
I guess gay bowsah finally snapped after odyssey
b55bbb No.15530156
>>15530136
>Kikes are so cheap even their souls come at a hefty discount
576f82 No.15530334
>>15521443
>down with kotaku
Every time
75fd9f No.15530440
its all so fucking tiring
i cant spend another five years discussion this shit to mentally ill people. let them run vidya in the ground i dont give a fuck anymore
ff8fc0 No.15532070
>>15526787
Tomboys don't need to exist for me to fap to them, I want to fuck a wolf girl despite the fact that they do not exist.
ff8fc0 No.15532091
>>15527305
Males fucking adore strong female characters in games, they love to see actually interesting women put on spotlight. They also love male characters just as well. A male doesn't care if he's playing as a man or a woman in a game as long as the character is interesting.
Females only care because they see the female characters in there as rivals that keep them from getting dick, and male hobbies wastes of time that make males not give them attention. which is ironic because often those characters are far more interesting than they are
47cd0b No.15540932
>>15527305
The goal was never to improve things for the women who actually play vidya.
ba4a6f No.15540941
>>15520662
Reported for paid shilling.
>>15530440
Yes, you can and will. Because you refuse to actually fight back at all, much less against the people who are ACTUALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS. "THAT'S RACIST THAT'S SEXIST THAT'S BIGOTED WE CAN'T CALL THEM OUT FOR WHAT THEY'RE DOING MUH OPTICS" – gamergate
And so the industry has collapsed into white genocidal propaganda because you refused to do the one fucking thing that would save it.
ba4a6f No.15540953
>>15528492
<Reductio ad absurdum is not a fallacy
This is how mentally defective you actually are. This is what you actually think we will believe.
>How is this a false dichotomy?
Because you've invented a two-sided argument out of thin air. Kill yourself.
a3a6c3 No.15540972
>>15526132
women would buy more games if they catered to them though
5e8666 No.15541021
>>15540972
This assumes women and men are the same. Equality delusions are a terrible thing.
8af530 No.15541065
>>15540941
A bit funny considering the GG thread conatantly rails on the jews due to /pol/acks camping out in it. Not to mention governments are on the verge of turning away from the left and the usual suspects are trying to connect Mark Judge with GG since he defended them. By the end of the year we'll see how much rope they'll have to hang themselves with after the supreme court and general elections are over. Another issue is that those in power musn't cuck out otherwise it'll take longer to do anything substantial without engaging in armed rebellion.
16d2d8 No.15541907
>>15541065
>america says "we're closed"
>this policy was put in place by trumps senior jewish adviser
oy vey are you saying we should have immigrants? american is a pure jewish nation goy