6f0d45 No.15499258
So I finally got a Bloodborne machine and the game. Is there a particular build good for a first solo playthrough of the game? What armor and weapons should I go for?
2aba78 No.15499276
Go roleplay a belmont with the whip weapons and throwing knives, do it faggot!
7eb235 No.15499286
axe for beginners, shotgun for easy stagger, str/skill based on weapon. dont look much up theres twists you dont want spoiled if you are going in blind.
a7a3a5 No.15499291
Congratulations for falling for a meme game. The Dark Souls games and Bloodorne are absolute turds that isn't even worth the discs they're burned to. You could use the disc as a beer coaster or something I guess.
6f0d45 No.15499299
>>15499276
I actually played a Belmont build in Dark Souls. it was a horribly miserable experience. Even at full strength whip weapons barely did anything to enemies later in the game. Neat premise though.
>>15499286
Gotcha, thanks. Any recommendation for stats?
7eb235 No.15499322
>>15499299
just remember the level up waifu is only around if you have insight so dont spend it all, but also maybe dont keep too much.
2aba78 No.15499324
>>15499299
>it was a horribly miserable experience.
Thats kinda the point though, to beat the game like a vampire killer with all its hardships and medusa heads.
Guts build for dark souls is fun too.
a79216 No.15499482
>>15499299
In Bloodborne you allocate stat points according to which weapons you use. For the Axe and Cleaver you should level strength and skill if you hit the softcap. For the saw spear and whip you would focus on skill.
Stamina isn't very important to increase because you start with a large bar.
If you only use guns for parrying then you don't need to level bloodtinge.
The armour sets aren't drastically different in terms of statistics. Most just use whatever they like.
On repeat playthoughs try things like arcane and bloodtinge builds.
b04773 No.15499486
>>15499258
Just go for what strikes your fancy in the first run. Sadly the game doesn't have re-spec so the first's gonna be a mess anyway.
Skill builds will seem the hardest at first because the Cane takes some time to get used to but it is a really good weapon, but if you're good at staggering enemies with the gun you'll have the easiest time because visceral damage scales with Skill.
Bottom line is that there are no bad weapons in the game, at most the Saw Spear feels derivative and the Wheel, Beast Cutter and Stake Driver take some time getting used to but that's about it.
If you didn't get a GOTY version, get the DLC. Shit's practically mandatory.
fbf6c9 No.15499544
Does a boss as fun and entertaining as Orphan of Kos exists in any game, be it From Software or not? I can't really name anything that's not Kalameet or The Nameless King.
7eb235 No.15499569
4a7b29 No.15499603
Armor literally doesn't matter, even by dark souls standards. Just go with whatever you think look good.
Nothing will ever be as powerful as saw blade with beast blood pellet, but feel free to explore the illusion of muh trick weapons. Also, as you go through the DLC and all the weapons it offers, consider how much the original players of this game had literally fucking nothing.
b04773 No.15499610
Forgot mentioning, regarding Arcane - if your build is not a ARC build, don't bother with this stat unless you want to use a "utility" tool like Beast Roar, Quickstep or, arguably, the Augur. This is a stat that will only show its value on very high investments and there's no diminishing returns for damage dealing tool stat scaling so a ARC build is ideally one where you can go full 99 ARC or something. That said, it's the hardest build to optimize because the gems are rarer and you'll likely need weapon variants with different gem slots.
1139ca No.15499618
>>15499258
>What armor and weapons should I go for?
There are so many good choices.
>>15499499
>>15499291
Leave faggots.
a7a3a5 No.15499653
>>15499618
It's a shitty flavour of the month game taken way past its expiry date. It's a terrible action game, not much of an RPG, loaded with artificial difficulty and just plain bad game design. People who genuinely enjoy this trash should be ashamed. If a western studio would release something as ass as this you redditors would rip it to shreds but because it's made by le superior yellow bugmen it's the best thing since sliced bread.
Just neck yourself and take your overrated garbage with you.
a79216 No.15499675
>>15499653
You're right. I've seent the error of my ways and installing doom right now. Every other video game really is reddit trash.
fcc1bf No.15499684
>>15499258
builds don't really matter too much compared to souls, it's hard to do an arcane or bloodtinge heavy character on the first playthrough because of how limited your weapons choices are until the midgame
df34e9 No.15499690
>>15499653
>aboohoo mommy I don't have a PS4
Sad!
7eb235 No.15499699
>>15499684
it changed a bit after the expansion, bloodtinge and arcane are viable. theres a blood with a little arcane build that basically makes you revolver ocelot.
96c333 No.15499704
>>15499618
>Pizzacutter
>Good choice
It's the EZ modo weapon. It's trash.
1139ca No.15499723
>>15499684
The most difficult thing is making suicide runs to get the weapons you want. There's only a handful that are severely gated. Beast claw says "Hi".
>>15499704
It's fun as shit though.
ef704a No.15499958
>>15499653
I just don't get people like you. Regardless of your feelings about the game, people still like talking about the series. You calling it a flavour of the month (despite the fact that the series has been fucking popular since Demon's Souls) rings hollow. Make some genuine complaints about the game, criticise it, talk about how shit a mechanic is or why you don't like it at all.
>everything I don't like is reddit tier
Guaranteed, there's a game out there that you like that someone from reddit also likes. Take your own advice and kill yourself.
96c333 No.15499978
>>15499653
>It's a shitty flavour of the month game
>taken way past its expiry date.
So then it's not a flavor of the month game? What are you trying to say here?
d8e6f5 No.15500031
I still haven't finished it. Want to become an old one using the Parasite, but I've already spent so many points into stats other than Arcane that it seems like I'm kind of already fucked.
1139ca No.15500096
>>15500031
What's your stat spread and how far have you got?
d8e6f5 No.15500127
>>15500096
17/8/30/13/14/25
At the Byrgenwerth Spider.
383ce6 No.15500137
>>15499653
I don’t think it’s physically possible to fit any more meme buzzwords into a post.
Congratulations.
1139ca No.15500182
>>15500127
You have more than enough time to turn it around into a Arc build. Go tomb prospecting for awhile to level yourself and get the Blacksky eye and ACB as soon as you can manage. Black sky eye in particular is right there close to your cosmic broccoli covenant, you only need to get past Rape Horse.
d8e6f5 No.15500186
>>15500182
I still need to figure out how to kill the Spider.
1139ca No.15500191
>>15500186
What are you using?
d8e6f5 No.15500194
>>15500191
Ludwig's Holy Blade +6
Uncanny Saw Cleaver +6
d8e6f5 No.15500197
>>15500191
Also I should mention I can't kill that stupid fucking hunter outside of the boss room, her arcane attacks just completely destroy me. I'm pretty much shit at fighting all hunters.
232c75 No.15500212
>>15499653
I (mostly) agree with you, but most people here are going to suck BB's cock no matter what, so there isn't much point in arguing.
fcb4b8 No.15500307
>>15499258
Burial Blade
>>15499958
None of this backlash would have happened if you reddit tier faggots learned how to enjoy decent things without praising it to high heavens, or pretend it's a game worth a whole console for.
It's Mario Odyssey tier and it's the reason Soul/Fromfags need to fuckoff from this board.
That and DS3 hype
1139ca No.15500317
>>15500194
Those work fine but you should use bolt paper or but a bolt gem on your weapons. Since you're going to work towards an Arcane build you could also go and get the Tonitrus and bring it up to level 6 or 7.
>>15500197
Try to parry her. Or use beast roar to keep her stunned.
>her arcane attacks
ACB has poor tracking up close you just have to watch for tentacles and her mist bottle of doom.
d8e6f5 No.15500334
>>15500317
I managed to defeat the hunter using the Empty Phantasm Shell just now on my Saw Cleaver. Honestly, I think the fucking Ludwig is way too slow even in its fast form.
I don't know what ACB is, and I tried to look up the Blacksky Eye, but there's no way I can get to the research hall. Everything in the DLC kills me in like two hits.
932144 No.15500340
Is the wheel-fag still here? I need that wheel guide he made months ago
d8e6f5 No.15500348
>>15500340
What the hell, that's fucked up.
932144 No.15500356
>>15500348
You can get one in-game you know
96c333 No.15500365
>>15500356
I thought that was fetus jelly, not calcifed fetus?
932144 No.15500382
>>15500365
The Yharnam stone is supposed to be a Lithopedion but covered in guts and blood.
It is a pretty interesting item but sadly it is literally useless
65c0ba No.15500386
>>15500365
That really reminded me of this for some reason.
1139ca No.15500399
>>15500334
>I don't know what ACB
A Call Beyond. You can get it once you get past Rom. It's in the real Yharnam unlike Blacksky which is in the nightmare Yharnam.
>Everything in the DLC kills me in like two hits.Your best bet for the Hunters Nightmare at low levels is to make suicide runs to unlock shortcuts or to get what weapon you want. Nightmare Cathedral Ward is the most painful part of the DLC.
>>15500382
>tfw you can't get Mergo as your pokeGreat One
2dad34 No.15500406
>>15500382
Good source of protein.
932144 No.15500428
>>15500406
Yummy yummy baby soup
2dad34 No.15500449
>>15500428
It's alllllll righhht!
d8e6f5 No.15500718
>>15500399
I managed to reach rape horse. Yeah, didn't go well. Accurate depiction of how it went down.
8ce89a No.15500761
>>15499291
>>15499653
>meme game
>using "meme" as a synonym for "bad"
I want cuckchan to leave.
d8e6f5 No.15500767
>>15500399
Ah, I just found the Boom Hammer. Is it worth using?
8beaec No.15500921
>>15500761
I don't get this post, are you trying to say being a meme game is actually a good thing?
d8e6f5 No.15500951
>>15500921
No I do believe he's saying to stop calling it a meme game because it's fucking stupid to call it one.
992b29 No.15500971
>>15500340
>>15500348
This happens when a fetus is thought to be an invading body and triggers an immune response. It usually happens when the embryo implants or grows somewhere its not supposed to go, like outside the womb because it attached in the fallopian tubes and pierced through as it grew.
d8e6f5 No.15500993
>>15500971
How big is that thing?
94040b No.15501075
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Creedence Clearwater Revival predicted the master piece of the century that is Bloodborne. They truly are Sony fans.
I see a bad moon a-rising
I see trouble on the way
I see earthquakes and lightnin'
I see bad times today
Don't go 'round tonight
It's bound to take your life
There's a bad moon on the rise
I hear hurricanes a-blowing
I know the end is coming soon
I fear rivers over flowing
I hear the voice of rage and ruin
Don't go 'round tonight
It's bound to take your life
There's a bad moon on the rise
I hope you got your things together
I hope you are quit prepared to die
Look's like we're in for nasty weather
One eye is taken for an eye
Oh don't go 'round tonight
It's bound to take your life
There's a bad moon on the rise
There's a bad moon on the rise
df4bbc No.15501133
>>15500767
Not really no, it's pretty lack-luster.
518869 No.15501158
>>15499291
The definition of a contrarian. I'll give you DS3 though
d8e6f5 No.15501172
>>15501075
But there are no earthquakes or storms in the game… What?
1139ca No.15501191
>>15500718
If you've made frens with Ned Kelly then you can summon him just before. He can be pretty useful as a distraction.
>boom hammer
It's basically a fire counterpart to the Tonitrus that scales off of strength. It also only normally does blunt damage and you have to cock it every time you want to do a fire attack. I've thought about making a build around it but it not really something that someone who is looking to become a lumenwood kin would use.
df3140 No.15501248
>>15499299
You should be thankful that BB has the best whip weapons out of all Fromsoft's games. The Cane's tricked form does fuck-all damage at first, but is good for chipping away health due to the long range of its attacks and bonus damage against beasts. The MOTHERFUCKING BEAST CUTTER however, is pretty much The Cane on steroids. It staggers human-sized mobs and can clear entire rooms without having you to even move. Unfortunately, while whips excel in crowd-control (which happens way more often than you think it is), they are abysmal against bosses mainly due to not being able to be charged. The Beast Cutter got hit hard with this since you can't stagger most bosses and the recovery animation for the tricked Beast Cutter is so fucking long.
>>15500767
The only thing the Boom Hammer has going for it is it's fully charged tricked form. It charges faster than a saw cleaver and has a wide explosion AoE for a melee weapon. Otherwise, it's as underwhelming as a late-game tonitrus,
94040b No.15501268
>>15501172
There is, the fishing village is all flooded along with earthquakes occurring when the one reborn appears. Mate, the John even says "Prepare to die", if that is not enough what is. What more do you want?
d8e6f5 No.15501296
Fucking Celestials are little punk bitches who can only fight like Koreans, 5v1.
69a461 No.15501315
Just do whatever you like your first go. The game isn't that hard anyway. You can afford to fuck up your stats. If you're looking to stomp everything, pull a saw cleaver and level skill. Or do the same with Ludwig's holy blade and level strength instead. Or use the beast claws, the beasthood turns you into a glass cannon, but they're the fastest STR weapon in the game, and defeating Lawrence in the DLC gives you a Hunter rune to upgrade the weapon and gives you a new moveset for it. If you don't have the DLC, you'll miss out on some of the more unique weapons, Simon's Bowblade and Holy Moonlight Greatsword. If you're going to dabble in arcane, you should know the best weapons of that type are Str/Arc rather than Skl/Arc. Tonitrus/Logarius' Wheel are the two big ones. DLC opens you up to the Boomhammer and HMGS. The standout Skl/Arc weapons are the Burial Blade/Church Pick. Kos parasite is a meme weapon, only really good for the explosion and extended sidestep.
Armour doesn't really mean shit, the one time you'll want to use is is with Henryk's set against Paarl. Wear whatever you like.
For guns, you really don't need anything besides your blunderbuss/pistol unless you're planning on leveling bloodtinge. Pistol is a little faster and works at all ranges, but I've found the blunderbuss to be more consistent because of the number of pellets fired. Rifle spear works the same as the blunderbuss when transformed, and cannon will eat through your ammo in 1-2 shots.
Avoid the cane and stake driver. Both are shit.
8a6c6a No.15501316
Question.
I'm also playing it for the first time and the input lag is making it unplayable.
Dark souls 1 on my craptop was easier to play and felt a lot more responsive.
Is this really the power of the ps4?
d8e6f5 No.15501320
>>15501316
>input lag
Are you using a thirdparty controller? I've not noticed any input lag. What's the response time on your TV?
69a461 No.15501321
>>15501316
I've never had this problem, even with my bloodborne machine having a nuclear meldown.
a26126 No.15501327
>>15501315
>Being this wrong
932144 No.15501349
>>15500718
The best way to deal with him is to be pretty aggressive, attack him constantly to stagger him, instead of dodging backwards try dodging forward and then get to his sides and slash away, when he does his delayed jump just run in a straight line to avoid him.
After that the rest is a cakewalk
347460 No.15501355
>>15499544
Maybe if you go back to 2d games but that probably won’t capture the exact feeling you have
2e8430 No.15501367
>>15501320
Official Sony controller.
I don't know it's response time but I'll look it up.
>>15501321
>works on my machine
In all seriousness at least I know it works well for others so it's probably fixable.
2e8430 No.15501416
>>15501367
Well I didnt find any response time for it, but it made me think that maybe it's the fact that the TV is a UHD model and that might affect it. So I turned off UHD and HDR and all that stuff. And we'll see how it behaves.
d8e6f5 No.15501447
>defeat Rom
>see something in the distance
>move towards it
>strange looking woman in grey
>all the sudden the moon is blood red and gigantic
>wake up
>the invisible isn't invisible anymore
cfe7a0 No.15501451
Cane all the way. Best weapon ever.
d8e6f5 No.15501454
>>15501451
It's got a really low damage output, and the differences in damage between beasts/humanoids aren't really significant enough to warrant the constant swapping back and forth.
1139ca No.15501471
>>15501447
Behold! A paleblood Sky!
cfe7a0 No.15501483
>>15501454
Maybe at the beginning it has low dps but it gets better.
1139ca No.15501502
>>15501483
>>15501454
Most importantly it's got decent range and good rally.
8a7f75 No.15501549
>>15501416
>he fell for the smart tv meme
>he doesn't have a 1080p sony bravia from 2009
Your TV should have "game mode" in its settings.
d8e6f5 No.15501618
>every time a blood guard trap appears in a chalice dungeon
b62c68 No.15501912
Just got the holy moonlight blade, do i need to put more points in any of these stats or should i leave them as is?
Vit 13 End 12 Str 38 Skil 25 BT 5 Arc 37
1139ca No.15501918
>>15501912
Arc is always a good choice. The sword's projectiles are pure arcane damage.
7ef566 No.15501934
>>15501618
>every time a pthumerian spider summoner or eyeball hag appears in a root chalice two or three of them, all within a room of each other at furthest
550e4c No.15501961
the saw is dps
the axe staggers bosses
the whip has range and crowd control
I suggest the whip for new players, unless you played dark souls 3 then you might be more comfortable with the saw because its the strait sword of bloodborne
the shotguns are a lot better for parrying and unless you invest stat points into it majorly then guns dont really do much damage at all so parrying is their main point, BUT there are a couple niche situations where a pistol will in fact be better for parrying usually against bosses because they are so big
d8e6f5 No.15501966
So something I'm noticing with this game is that weapons don't really scale the same way they did in Dark Souls. Having a heavily reinforced weapon doesn't make the nut like it did where enemies continue to be relatively tanky unless you have a weapon that's strong. Enemies seem tanky at level 1 (+0 weapon) and at level 75 (+7 weapon). Is there some special mechanic I'm completely missing out on here?
550e4c No.15501973
>>15501966
try going to 50 instead of 25
d8e6f5 No.15501984
>>15501966
My Arc is actually 40 now, I've been leveling off of a Pthumeru chalice dungeon filled with Celestials. When I first started fully clearing the room gave about 120K blood echoes, but now I get around 50-80K, which is sitll enough to level once per clear (provided I don't get killed by the cocksuckers). I need a place to farm Blood Chunks to help with maxing out my weapons too. I went back to the Ludwig's Blade with the Tonitrus as my backup.
7ef566 No.15501993
>>15501966
Blood gems, probably. The first scaling softcap is at 25, but scaling's still pretty good up to 50, and under most circumstances you'll probably want to pick one stat and gouge it like >>15501973 says, but a substantial portion of damage comes from chalice blood gems, with some okay ones for NG being static loot in the main worlds.
Most of the +X damage type% bonuses go up to 25-30% or so once you get into Depth 5 Fetid-Rotted-Cursed territory, of which you can stick three on with various secondary effects that can boost numbers further, flat or circumstantial %. Depending on how deep you go into the Korean gem grind, you'll end up anywhere from boosting your damage half again or doubling it, which is not a small difference.
d8e6f5 No.15502013
>>15501993
And to get Fetid-Rotted-Cursed I'm guessing I need to keep clearing chalices in some specific order?
7ef566 No.15502056
>>15502013
You do have to do the chalices in a rough sequence as you come across the proper components, Bastards of Loran are needed in order to invoke the static Cursed & Defiled Pthumeru Chalice for example, but mostly it's just a matter of progress. Once you get to depth 2 and above (below?) Fetid offerings are available to add to any root chalice you make at the cost of some additional components; Fetid makes enemies hit you harder, though I think it might just be the ones with red fumes surrounding them that get this bonus. It's sizable either way. At depth 3, Rotted offerings are available, and cause more traps & enemies to appear. Hope you like pressure plates.
The last, Cursed, is available at depth 5 for root chalices, although you get to preview the effect at the depth 4 Pthumeru chalice; it halves your health, halves enemy physical damage but keeps elemental damage the same (meaning you will probably get pasted by any fireball and cry tears of blood fighting a Darkbeast) and makes gems generate with negative side-effects. All of these offerings make gems dropped stronger in general as a reward for the difficulty, whether they drop randomly or as boss loot. If you don't mind the rigidly formulaic corridors, and many people do, depth 5 FRC chalices are your perpetual endgame beside resetting the game to NG+.
Regardless of whether you choose to go into the root chalice Korean gem grind, you'll find various better gems in the static dungeons that might help boost your damage, plus echoes, a weapon or two, and some consumables. The game certainly seems to expect the player to dabble with chalices on the side of doing main game progression, running chalices as you acquire them until you hit a wall, because it's stupidly easy if you go back at endgame to start the first chalices. I suggest catching up on them sooner rather than later, doing what you can stand, getting some better gems if possible, and then going back to the main game for a bit.
2e8430 No.15502181
>>15501549
I dont regret my choice of TV it's quite useful especially when I have guests over.
And yes I did find a game mode and that seems to have helped some.
1139ca No.15502201
>>15501961
I've personally never used the saw cleaver because the saw spear is so easy to get and is basically the same weapon but with the bonus of thrust attacks and serrated damage in both forms. I used the axe in my first play through and I don't regret it.
>>15501984
>Blood Chunks
The gargoyles at Cainhurst drop them at a not unreasonable frequency and so does the lone church giant on the top floor of the lecture hall. Lecture hall is a great place to get bullets and blue elixir too.
5733af No.15502217
>>15499618
I love the look on Eileen's crow suit with the arms and leggings of the Keeper of old Lords for the extra feathers. That or Gascoine's set.
69b7c4 No.15502263
>Not going full Powder Keg build with the Charred Hunter set, Ashen set for frenzy resist, Stake Driver and Boom Hammer for weapons
Probably the most fun I had with BB and it was my third playthrough.
8c38db No.15502544
>>15501961
I’m playing with the saw now and enjoying it a lot more than when I was playing with heavy weapons. I usually play DaS as a heavy but it just doesn’t feel good in Bloodborne. Just found the Saw Spear and that feels pretty good too.
d8e6f5 No.15502788
>>15502201
>the gargoyles
Ah, of course. My favorite enemies… Well, no one said becoming god would be easy.
8c38db No.15502919
For future reference, is there a way to get out of this niggers stun lock once he knocks you down. If you lay there he’ll just kill you and if you try and roll he’ll swipe you right out of it and back onto the ground, I beat him but it felt more out of luck than skill.
992b29 No.15502923
>>15502919
He has tricky timings when in beast mode. Like most bosses you can parry, I just parry him to death. Its the first mandatory boss in the game, if you feel he was tough then stay out of the DLC areas.
8c38db No.15502936
>>15502923
The parrying was easy enough, I just want to figure out how to regain my footing once he enters that “beast” mode. Seemed like no matter how I tried to get up his attack was so relentless I couldn’t.
1139ca No.15504430
>>15502919
>For future reference, is there a way to get out of this niggers stun lock once he knocks you down.
Yes. Don't get knocked down.
d8e6f5 No.15504725
Basically the last levels I'll be gaining in NG. Figured I'd go as high as 120 cause that used to be the meta for Dark Souls and it seemed like a fairly rounded number.
550e4c No.15506625
>>15504725
IIRC the meta is like 100 or something and even that almost feels like you have too many stat points
look at your stats, your well past softcap 1 on everything but skill and end and quite close on skill, you can use any weapon and item proficiently
if everyone went to 120 there would be nothing making any of the characters different
IMO the meta level should be somewhere where you can get two damage stats to 25 or one to 50 without having to sacrifice on health and stamina, but just barely
ideally you should be able to get two softcap 2 on one of them and one on the other while cutting into health or stam a little bit so some characters will have more damage then characters invested into the same stat and some guys would have a reason to have less health
I think 90 would be a good place for a meta, maybe 100
d8e6f5 No.15506669
>>15506625
I always build an all-arounder as my first character in a FromSoft game, I don't specialize into anything for a first run so that I can be flexible and swap weapons and builds around without too much negative effects. I use spell-items a lot, so the 50 Arcane is good for me. Jack of all trades, master of none.
As to the question of level, I'm not really going for meta, it's just a cap I set for myself to play the game. I don't intend to PvP or the such.
8244e3 No.15506695
>>15506669
"Muh PVP" shit is what killed these games in my opinion. Back when Demon's Souls was the only game in the series there was PVP discussion but it was never really the biggest deal. Seriously most of the cancerous content and memeshit that these games teem with are the direct result of ADHD-riddled mongoloids who only care about muh PVP.
1139ca No.15506698
>>15506669
The important thing to note about arcane is that it scales all the way up with hunter tools so if you plan on using magic it's helpful to keep bumping Arc on up there to get the most out of your attack "spells".
6ce802 No.15507037
BB is artistically far superior to the rest of the Souls series
d8e6f5 No.15507570
>>15506698
>The important thing to note about arcane is that it scales all the way up with hunter tools so if you plan on using magic it's helpful to keep bumping Arc on up there to get the most out of your attack "spells".
>it goes all the way up
No way? Well I might make a magic-user in the future then.
d8e6f5 No.15507644
Also apparently I fucked up some quest somewhere along the line, and Eileen attacked me. So I had to put her down. So I guess I'll have to play through again and try to do better.
1139ca No.15510275
>>15507570
>Well I might make a magic-user in the future then.
It's a highly viable playthrough choice. I did it myself. Worked like a dream but you do have to commit to the build.
The one exception among the hunter's tools is the snake whistle. It scales with bloodtinge instead of arcane.
>>15507644
Did you talk with her before you fought Henryk?
8f844f No.15510344
>>15502263
I mixed the cainhurst armor and ashen hat with the stake driver for my NG+ run and had a blast with the powered up heavy attack on the driver.
d8e6f5 No.15510387
>>15510275
>Did you talk with her before you fought Henryk?
I don't know. I don't know if I even fought him? It's been over a month since I first started playing, and I just kind of stopped and picked it back up when this thread came around. So I might have done things or not done things, and I can't recall everything.
b8ce7e No.15510399
>cant change the color of the eye scelera
When are they gonna allow you to do that again? Demon's Souls had it.
Want to make a character with solid colored eyes and cant even do it.
1139ca No.15511842
>>15510387
Do you remember fighting a guy in a slightly yellowish hunters garb in the same place where you fought Gascoigne and had Eileen come in to help you with the fight?
d8e6f5 No.15511855
>>15511842
I didn't even do the fight, I figured that out now. I'm surprised that she won the fight on her own. Anyway I made a new character and tried to do the questline and he killed her while I was dying, so I deleted that character in irritation.
aaaa38 No.15511877
So is Yarnham a dream created by the Moon Presence along with the Hunter's Dream?
Was anything actually real?
aaaa38 No.15511885
>>15502919
>stun lock once he knocks you down
Dash forward not backwards
1139ca No.15511918
>>15511877
Everything is a dream and everything is also real.
a27d7c No.15511964
>>15511877
Both. No, really.
I have a suspicion that the Church was trying to "pull" some creature from the moon. They kinda succeeded with "The One Reborn". But without going too much into the Lore, you got two main factions at odds with one another. The Church Choir seem to be on somewhat-good-terms with the Elder Gods. So are the Hunters. The School of Mensis however, seem to be trying to force their summoning and control them (or control the knowledge they obtain). This ends horribly for them too. It's not explictly stated if they're still around calling the shots or if they were all trapped in the Nightmare (or they still do their thing from the Nightmare itself, they appear to have trapped an Old One there, the "Brain of Mensis").
The main plot is you are sent in to stop the Ritual of Mensis. You could interpret it as: the ritual is actually cast (the One Reborn is summoned, most likely, it's the Mensis fellas all reborn in a mass of bodies) and after that, Yarnham becomes a sort of "dream".
There's a chance this happened after killing Rom too.
You might have noticed that many locations are kinda "layered" on top of each other? Something like:
>Hunter's Nightmare
>(some other Nightmare I don't remember)
>Yarnham
>Hunter's dream (if you believe those pillars in the distance to be Ash Trees, like in Dark Souls, it would put them bellow ground).
You can then consider then that Yarhnam either "moves" a layer, or there's two separate Yarnhams: a real one, and after the ritual (or the slaying of Rom) a second, projected Yarnham, above normal Yarnham and closer to the Nightmare. Think "astral projection", but city-sized.
This is further signified by the Moon increasing in size (the Moon isn't coming down, you're going up).
Now, when you die in Yarnham, you go back to dreaming (the Hunter's Dream). You dream of the Hunters Workshop. The Hunter's Dream is a sort of gift that works with that rune engraved on your mind. You receive this after the "Blood Ministration" at the start.
In the Dream, you can "Wake up above". But you're never trully there, only dying in the Hunter's Dream can trully wake you up for good.
992b29 No.15512383
>>15502936
I learned to parry because when I start a new game I like to go for the chalice as soon as possible and that means bloodstarved beast is my second boss, with little to no blood echoes spent on my build at that point. Parrying becomes a requirement to keep from pulling your hair out over how little damage you deal.
94040b No.15512435
>>15511964
So I get to stay a slug
a27d7c No.15512781
>>15512435
And in a century or two, you grow up to become a Great Old One.
Come to think of it, your hunter might be one of the only characters that managed to ascend.
ae35a6 No.15512848
Do a broccoli head pure arcane build. Get the Moonlight Greatsword equivalent, Kos Parasite and abuse hunters tools. It's good fun. Don't rely on the gun as a crutch.
ae35a6 No.15512875
843843 No.15512924
>>15512848
>just do the entire game first to then… play through the same game again but this time actually have a weapon!
42e88f No.15516468
I've played through it three times so far. It's really overrated. It's a very solidly made game and probably Miyazaki's best game, but I honestly wouldn't say it's some sort of gem or must-have. It's mildly fun and superbly designed. And that's about it. It's short as all hell even with the DLC and the game doesn't exactly encourage trying out different builds.
8c38db No.15516481
>>15511885
…. I should have at least tried that considering it works on quite a few aggressive enemies. I’ll try that once I’m in new game+, thanks.
b8ce7e No.15516532
>>15516468
Nobody asked for your amateur review yet here you are. You probably haven't even played it.
>b-but it's overrated and you need to listen to me blah blah blah
God im sick of faggots like you here.
160cf2 No.15516662
>>15499258
All the weapons are viable so I suggest looking up weapon moveset videos and pick ones you like. As for armor, it doesn't matter so use whatever looks fancy.
>>15499486
>cane takes getting used to
I personally found it the easiest since it had good range as whip and excellent strike angles and moveset as cane. The saw cleaver with its short range as saw and awful moveset as cleaver fucked me up alot.
>>15499544
I found Gascoigne really fun, to the point I died on purpose again and again so I can start all over but that might be because having a boss that behaved like a player was neat at the time.
>>15501447
>pic related
>>15502919
Don't spam dodge and properly time them when down.
ecf9b2 No.15516883
>>15499258
there's pretty much only 1 set of Armour worth using (its the one on the box art)
d8e6f5 No.15517178
Anybody who would be willing to assist with Ludwig?
9ce44d No.15517193
>>15512924
Well, he can do whatever for the first playthrough but Souls games are meant to be beaten a few times. The first playthrough is basically easy-mode.
d8e6f5 No.15517204
>>15517193
>The first playthrough is basically easy-mode.
That's an odd perspective to have.
9821d6 No.15517258
843843 No.15517488
>>15517193
>the first playthrough when you have no real items/weapons is easy mode
>the mode where you do absolutely no character advancement, have the best weapons/armor, and just steamroll 99% of bosses because they have stagnant patterns is harder.
And besides BB is especially bad with how little actually changes in NG+
9cd007 No.15520968
>>15499258
>Bloodborne machine
>the game
Bloodborne machine has no games.
160cf2 No.15521197
>>15517488
For how shitty DS2 was one of the things I liked was how much changed between the first and second playthroughs. If I remember right there were enemy types and items that didn't even show up until NG+.
843843 No.15522034
>>15521197
yeah, DS2 the most changed between NG and NG+, extra enemies, items, and the like.
Nioh did it really well too, but that's from a different company
191e15 No.15522071
>>15517178
If you can't get anyone, summon Valtr
b8ce7e No.15522519
I love how in low doses you become a vampire, in medium doses you become a fucking werewolf and in high doses you become a fucking alien.
d8e6f5 No.15523864
>>15522071
The Fextra guys helped me out, they're available almost 24 hours a day, though it varies on what time you ask for help as to who you get to help (obviously). I go to their wiki every day, I figure why the fuck not.
652b16 No.15523959
>>15522519
Vermin and the blood of Old One's are entirely different things.
6a6bca No.15524002
>>15521197
It's as shit as the rest of the games. Oooh cool some new faggot red enemies that are no better than what was in NG, and some rings with slight stat increases over the lower level ones how amazing. I guess you can say they tried, but barely.
b8ce7e No.15524127
>>15523959
That's true. I was thinking of a time before Vermin were introduced. Is it still canon if it didnt exist until a DLC pack?
d8e6f5 No.15524599
So I decided to try a Belmont challenge, and rolled up a character. I'm using the beast cutter always in chain whip mode (prior to this threaded cane always in notched whip mode). It's honestly interesting how it changes my boss strategies, and also how it's unlocked strategies I never had access to before. Like for example, when you can't use a gun, you can still stun cleric beast by jump attacking him and it'll hit him right in the face. This works for both threaded cane and beast cutter weapons.
You need to play a bit more defensively than normal because of the windup of the whip, so you often have to wait for an enemy to strike first and then dodge it and return attack. Honestly I've always been fan of stupid builds like this, and I used to do a similar thing in Dark Souls 1 where I'd get the whip at the start of the game using the master key and then do all the bosses in order, upgrading my whips along the way (such as a flame whip, and lightning notched whip). What other challenges would you consider?
>>15522071
I figure I'll mention, the reason that I needed help with Ludwig was because I was only level 30 and trying to get the Holy Moonlight Sword early in the game. This is damn hard to accomplish alone or with a group, as my level was pulling peoples' stats down. So I had to level up.
Speaking of leveling up, here's a strategy I tend to use. Completed layer 1 of Pthumeru and then load chalice dungeon p2tbyrh2 (search it), and using flame weapons kill the Celestials hanging around in the first room, I recommend starting off one at a time. Each celestial is worth roughly 4750 blood echoes each, and there's something like 10 of them. If you use moon runes you can get as much as 75,000 per clear of this room. In 5 minutes you can get a million blood echoes. Be careful of the pressure plate in the center of the room.
9821d6 No.15530160
How do you play sapping weapons like the WHEEL, Chikage, and Bloodletter? I guess you could throw the Beast Claw in with this question too since it's a sapper too, only with defense instead of health.
843843 No.15530542
>>15530160
Really easily? Sapping weapons aren't hard at all to play because they usually have an absurd benefit to them that makes them overpowered. Chikage is absurdly strong, bloodletter is chikage for hipsters and weaker, and wheel is for people who want to go STR/ARC and ignore rally mechanics while losing 4% hp a second. Really though the sapping weapons are absurdly powerful if you build for them at absolutely no real risk.
652b16 No.15530611
>>15524127
Vermin existed in the base game. The swampy area with the snakemen was infested with Vermin, same with Cainhurst.
652b16 No.15530619
>>15530542
Fuck you, the Bloodletter is king on a STR/DEX build. Mix that with the beast rune and you have a disgustingly good weapon.
f66369 No.15530862
>>15500340
>wheel fag
I believe I am that fag, but I don't remember making a guide specifically
Wheel is good with strength, but it is Bloodborne's "Faith Hammer" (See: Grant (Dark Souls), Bramd (Demon's Souls)) so it's a waste to not have some investment in arcane. The weapon is fantastic for bludgeoning a single powerful enemy to death in its base form, but it's highly slow, so it requires the player to act defensively and thoughtfully. The transformed version is excellent in both trades, giving speed and power at the cost of doing arcane damage instead of pure physical, meaning some enemies will be more resistant, and some will be less resistant. Putting stats purely into strength and augmenting that with gems is of course still completely viable, and you won't loose all your physical damage on transform; if I'm not mistaken the number is 75% of your base physical damage is kept, which if you have gems making the base damage stronger, you're still losing 25%, but you're preventing a high loss. The arcane side is nothing to blow your nose at either, since it goes to 200% of its base number, and that increases with every time you rev the wheel up, giving up to 60% extra damage on 4 spins. On top of that, transformed, the wheel begins giving extra arcane scaling, turning S arcane scaling up even further BEYOND
If you slot it with high arcane scaling gems, you're going to get insanely high damage numbers, and on top of that, you get extra strikes with most of the attacks when you rev up because the wheel is spinning with the angry souls of the hunted and the blood of the new hunt; the wheel is a perpetual engine of destruction driven by blood and trapped souls. The drawback, which is slow loss of life, is actually very minor when you really get down to it; the ticking shouldn't actually fuck you up as long as you're killing or maiming at a high speed, and not using too much spin for the right enemies is a key to staying alive and not needlessly losing health; when you're using high arcane, staying transformed with it is honestly the best option because you get faster swings and you're always playing to the advantage of high arcane damage. For bosses, the biggest problem will be knowing phases and move times, gaining openings for revving your wheel, and knowing how and when to collapse the wheel so you can stop losing health for a second. Always remember that you can also rev the wheel once to bring it back down to the first rev, so you will either not lose health if you're below the 1000hp threshold, or you will lose minimal health if you're above that.
I recommend 50/20, 50/50, or 20/50 if you're going to try any builds with it, depending on if you want either or both strongsuits of the wheel played upon. If you upgrade arcane you can also use the executioner gloves, since if you're playing with the transformed form mostly then you can basically replace the gun with a torch and your bullet consumption is saved for spell casts purely.