/v/ - Video Games

>>15486143

>FPS give you vertigo?

This is a thing?

Dancing games, why the hell dont you just turn up the radio and dance either alone or with friends?

>>15486143

yeah fighting games. I am not going to memorize 5000 different move inputs and what they do just to get started on the game.

>>15486169

Maybe you should play Smash Bros. instead :^)

>>15486143

>fighting games

White people don't play fighting games. That's why they're so popular in the USA.

Yeah fighting games

I want to get them, I understand the appeal, but I'm just shit and unwilling to get not shit

>>15486143

By "do not get", do you mean that I cannot get into it or that I don't get what the appeal is supposed to be?

If it's the latter, then visual novels and walking simulators. OK fine, you want your pretentious hipster story, but why not just watch it on YouTube? Is holding down W really that engaging for your?

Multiplayer, Fighting and Card games

Fuck All Of This, FUCK THEM

>>15486220

Visual novels there would be no point in watching on youtube, after all the "gameplay" is easier than finding a video to begin with. That is unless you are considering "buying" them I guess. As for walking sims, I think sometimes there's something to explore a little?

>>15486265

If you don't know every single move that every single character can execute you can't hope to even begin to learn the game seriously. Every single character because you need to know all of your options AND all of your opponents options, at all times. That's only the beginning, because you also need to know hitboxes/hurtboxes and combos, all of that before you can even start developing actual skill.

As far as game genre, I don't really get "modern" FPS like CoD or Battlefield. They don't do anything for me, and after a few months there's no room for new players because everyone has just unlocked all the best guns. Insurgency does FPS very well IMO.

As far as setting genre, I don't get fantasy. At all. I despise elves and their very existence, and I've never seen a fantasy setting that draws me in or even looks vaguely appealing.

>>15486276

Unless you want to be the number one player, you don't need to be that autistic, just pick a character you like, or search online for top tier characters if you are that autistic, learn some of his movesets, play against the AI to get a feeling for it, and then play online, you won't be playing against the top 10 players right away, just with retards and kids who just smash buttons and don't know any combos. The more you play, the more you will learn what other characters do.

>>15486263

*Meanwhile in order to get good at a first person shooter game

turn based shit

it was always shit

it will never be good

NASA has to study the mongoloids that still play it

>>15486308

well memed kiddo

well memed

>>15486169

fighting fags just spam like 2 or 3 combos, the rest is pure button mashing with playing on the defense all the time

Tactical FPS. I get the appeal but the "dance" of the classic shooter is the fun part of FPS to me and they've killed that.

>>15486154

motion sickness is quite common, for me low fps and fov combined with quick paced action gameplay always make sick, I'm doomed to be high performance, low settings gaymer

I want Mavis to drain the blood from my erect cock.

>>15486143

MOBAs…I mean, with a game that has a lot of characters and gear, why does every character only have ONE style of play?

>>15486154

apparently it used to be a huge thing in japan.

I've got friends who just can't handle anything but a very specific fov.

>>15486172

this but unironically.

>>15486361

>Because they dont have friends and space to dance? Why you think its popular in japan?

What's the point of dancing if nobody is there to join you? Grinding is at least half the fun.

>>15486394

>every game was it's own genre

When? The '70s? I wouldn't be surprised that when there were 7 games in existence that might've been the case.

>>15486408

You're responding to a cuckchanner with a knowyourmeme filename, just so you know.

Typical Square Enix Turnbased JRPG. Formulaic gameplay so similar between games results in you knowing how to play the game before you have. Gameplay then is boiled down to the complexity of QTEs. Then they shoe horn in walls of text between gameplay. The games are just of loop of QTE -> VN. People who play these shut off their brains like people do when they watch generic TV shows.

>>15486206

>>15486219

You only get into fighting games if you have someone you can play with regularly. The task of memorising moves and mechanics is greatly reduced because you only need to know what they know to have a fair match. Since the days of going to friends houses and playing console games are long passed, fighting games cease to appeal to me.

>>15486169

>>15486325

Play Samurai Shodown then. No combos. Hit hard and if you miss, get fucked.

>>15486345

Walking simulators are high budget one-way path VNs. I can see why people like it.

Also Ghosts of Tsuhima is looking to be a big "racist" game. Maybe not the right word but more like "american dub" of 80's kung fu movies. That whole sequence with the mongols speaking almost alien language with distorced voice until they all shout SAMURAI! tells you enough. I read that japan was pretty pissed at the E3.

>Assfaggots

predetermined meta

some gay ass 3 second delays when you want to attack something

everything is about overpowering your opponent outright rather then having interesting engagements

brain dead chimps could play it its so simple but everyone acts self righteous about it anyway.

>Racing games

either has rubberbanding or a pre set path and time all the vehicles take by default in which case whats the fucking point?

Multiplayer usually includes some autist using exploits to shortcut entire portions of the track.

Inversely multiplayer also will be populated by people who have no clue how to race.

Winning feels like driving down a deserted highway.

>Fighting games

Try hard central

Gameplay is about memorizing precise inputs and comboing people so they cant retaliate.

1v1 is for fags, doesn't matter the genre.

>Pvp survival/Battleroyale

A game of shooting people who cant see you

Community possibly even more cancerous then assfaggots

>third person

>>15486143

Idle games.

Sports and fighting games.

Unless I'm playing with friends, I don't really see how they could ever be fun.

ASSFAGGOTS I used to play back when the Warcraft 3 DotA was still new, but even then it didn't have too much of a pull for me.

They're very dull and drag on for an hour or more.

Battle Royale I dislike strongly, and not just because of the memes, but because the genre feels like an abortion of the arena shooter.

Hero arena shooters like Overwatch could probably be fun if someone competent were to try and make one.

>>15486219

>>15486169

Pretty much these.

>>15486432

>brain dead chimps could play it

join the next big tournament then and cash in on the million of bucks they have as prize money.

>either has rubberbanding or a pre set path and time all the vehicles take by default in which case whats the fucking point?

That's not always the case

>Multiplayer usually includes some autist using exploits to shortcut entire portions of the track.

neither is this…

>Gameplay is about memorizing precise inputs and comboing people so they cant retaliate.

Depends on the game. If your fighting game has enough characters you have to learn matchup's on the go. Check out the Low Tier God vs BT Viscant match. Certain moves only work against certain characters. Also, these long ass combos don't exist in every game. USFIV for example punishes them. Mortal Kombat has those extremely long combos.

>Unless I'm playing with friends, I don't really see how they could ever be fun.

you don't enjoy outplaying others and totally destroying them? Reading their minds and predicting their moves is not fun to you?

>>15486143

I want to fug that smug girl

>>15486451

>Ultimate Street Fighter IV

Ah yes, fighting games at the speed of constipation that punish you for winning and reward you for getting your ass beat.

Reminds me of why I stopped playing fighting games when arcades died.

>ITT faggots think you need to memorize a lot of inputs to be good in fighting games

Jesus. I don't like fighting games and I find them pretty stupid, but not because of that retarded and untrue opinion. There are basic inputs that all characters have, difference being what action they perform. The point of doing combos is doing the sameinputs in the order your character may need. The inputs should come naturally once you know basic things, the rest is just practice and even style. It's no different from Cuh-razy games, except a lot more boring and multiplayer.

>>15486143

Sport games. Not like in the retarded "Just play the sport" sense, although that's valid too, but the button configuration is so stupid and half of the time I do shit without even knowing and end up winning anyway. That's particularly true for PES and FIFA. I just don't get why people like them or how they can even be competitive. It's just boring all automatic. The only one I liked was Super Mario Strikers and mario sport games in general because they are clear in what to do to be an actual game, and yet I do't see any skill ceiling, I just kicked the ball till it got white and scored.

>>15486157

You don't get scores for dancing or increased difficult as you go mastering it. It's like saying Guitar Hero is the same as playing an actual guitar.

>>15486302

It's calmed and slow-paced. Better than casual shit but barely. Good for relaxing.

>>15486410

>Wait until you win

t. retard who isn't good at RTS

You can't just wait. You units are precious since they cost resources. You're basically over seeing the battle, keeping units alive as you either retire them from battle or makethem come in waves, and in some cases units work as rock-paper-scissor, so you need to know with what attack what. It's real time strategy because you need to act fast. Admittedly the resource gathering is tedious, but it's necessary.

Go and play W40k DoW Ultimate Apocalypse mod to see a major disaster and an all out war. Specially, try keeping it a 1v2 match. It's nuts and fun.

>>15486432

>Racing games

Kart games are better, also they are not the same. Racing games are kinda boring, like NFS, but add items, like guns and shit, and you'll have fun, like Jak X.

>>15486410

Sounds like you've mostly played single player vs AI. It's way more fun to play vs real people. Mainly because humans all struggle with multitasking while the AI doesn't. Psychological tricks don't work on AI either which makes it no fun. AI doesn't ragequit or give up the same way a human might do.

>>15486488

Playing with the A.I give you a rundown as to how to use your character at a basic level while playing against a person enables you to improve on what you know.

>>15486467

>but not because of that retarded and untrue opinion

It really comes down to what you play. In injustice and Mortal Kombat you can pull 50% damage combos that can't be interrupted. There is more to fighting games, but some fighting games just go down to randomly throwing shit at your enemy, hoping that something will work.

>>15486467

>You can't just wait.

This is how you can tell good vs bad players apart. Bad players play it like city builders. Without any kind of strategy they down random buildings and build random units. Also bad players tend to place defensive towers all over their base, trying to circle it with them instead of fortifying a certain spot. If you saw one bad rts player you saw them all because they are all the same.

>>15486494

>character

>rts

What?

>>15486509

>What?

units and their abilities

>>15486515

Nice save.

>>15486517

>Why do you want him to hate the genre even more?

What's wrong with that game? You got a guy who played a lot of SF back in the days but barely plays USFIV vs a guy who plays it a lot. And this guy who barely played USFIV manages to beat his opponent by learning moves on the go.

>USFIV has lots of safe strings for pressure

yes, but the longer a combo goes, the less damage it will deal. And the longest combo you have in sfiv is still shorter than your average combos in mk9 (+upwards)

>You sound like a former Capcom Shill or 09'er.

I stopped playing fighting games a long time ago, long before sfv got released. But yes, since I grew up with sf I mostly play it. I tried mk and later injustice but they don't work out for me and I am not interested in playing other series.

>There are combo breakers

they consume bars, you can't just spam those all day long.

>>15486365

I just find it odd that an FPS with 9 characters can pull off more builds than a game that has like what? 27+ characters in total…

>>15486517

>early Mortal Kombat didn't have combos at all.

UMK3 and Trilogy, which is basically the same thing, had. You had to be close and do an specific sequence of buttons perfectly timed to pull a combo. It sucked because it was different for all characters and they had like 1 or 2 combinations. It wasn't a good system at all. Outside of the gore, early Mortal Kombat games weren't pretty good fighting games. MK9 was an air of fresh breath to the franchise since 3D games were also shit. Shame MK10 ruined everything MK9 did right, though.

>Why do a chore to achieve something for that long time?

Feeling good with yourself. I did one of the most autistic buildings in Terraria. And it felt great.

>>15486614

>I won't do it because I don't want to, but it's easy, I swear

Come on mate. Yeah, it's easy, but it requires certain degree of practice. When faggots say anyone can do it, which is true, doesn't mean anyone is willing to invest the time to. That just means you need practice, but not skill at all.

>On the other hand items are usually imbalanced and have their own bullshit that tends to set the meta for the entire game

True. But how would you fix it? I liked it in Jak X because items didn't necessarily broke the game. It was just to fuck the guy behind/ahead of you, while also having the option to defend yourself. Some games also give you items depending on your position in the race.

>>15486542

>What's wrong with that game?

Not the game. LTG himself. I have some qualms with USFIV but they tried to tone down vortex and lots of dumb shit. On the other hand Elena having her Super and Ultra mixed up was retarded, but that's more of a nitpick than most of the stuff that iteration had in its life. It's not a bad game at all. Just the little things like 1-frame links, how revenge and FADC works making most supers useless and fucking up really bad Makoto and Dudley from 3rdStrike made me drop the game in the long run to the point I didn't even felt anything with SFV so I pretty much ignored.

>I am not interested in playing other series.

Then just say that you know 3 franchises instead of lumping dozens of others along as "not worth it after USFIV" because you don't even want to try it. There are different mentalities in concept itself from SFIV to Samurai Shodown, Dead or Alive/Virtua Fighter and animefighters in general. I wasn't posting SamSho Vspecial for nothing.

I myself am a great fan of UMK3 and only find NRS era of the games as mostly "amusing" but "not as good" as how much it changed today.

>they consume bars, you can't just spam those all day long.

Because then you would have to reword how combos and hits works completely or the game. If you want breakers, play KI or DOA that does better jobs in that department.

>>15486636

I stated about dial-up-combos in my post and at least Mortal Kombat games standed out not being SF-clones in its inception. Yes, MK9 is uncomparable in its quality to what Midway was doing after MK4 onwards but they also lost the "quality" in its extra content. Krypt is interesting in MKX but everything else is quite "bland". They need to get Tobias back since he was the idea guy. Noob needs its Saibot.

>>15486645

>Come on mate. Yeah, it's easy, but it requires certain degree of practice. When faggots say anyone can do it, which is true, doesn't mean anyone is willing to invest the time to. That just means you need practice, but not skill at all.

we are on the same page here.

>But how would you fix it?

i think mariokart does it best other then maybe red and blue shells. Position based item spawns are good but i would also probably have track position based item spawns and balance the track around it rather then designing the track first and then figuring out where to put the items and which kind of items. Try to ensure all the whacky stuff happens early on and keep the later half of the race more grounded, even spawning entirely different things depending on what lap everyone is on. So imagine it like this.

Lap 1. Everyones getting turbo boosts and blue/red shells. utter havoc

Lap 2. Extremely rare blue shell. uncommon Redshells/greenshells, and the occasional inky

Lap 3. Nothing but bananas/uncommon green shells and a very rare turbo for some of the people in the back. If players are within a few seconds of each other they dont get any turbos at all. Blueshell will never spawn.

Also a balance change to the blueshell from WILL ALWAYS HIT YOU to WILL PROBABLY HIT YOU BUT IF YOU ARE CAREFUL YOU CAN AVOID IT BUT PROBABLY NOT.

Im forgetting other items but thats the general idea.

>>15486703

>the combat or the tactics

Expeditions:Vikings is awesome for that. It's actually an almost perfect depiction of small-scale viking/anglo-saxon combat. I actually love turn based stuff, but more specifically I love XCom style turn based stuff.

Also JRPGs aren't RPGs so I don't know why people keep calling them RPGs. We should call them JLAG for Japanese Linear Adventure Games…because that's what 99% of them are.

Also, yeah, the menu shit's a mess but that's because they're made with quick controller operation in mind.

The entire history of gaming in terms of the West/East divide has been the West invents something, then the West perfects it then Japan catches wind of it and makes it terrible but now with more autism.

Think about it, JRPGs are objectively inferior compared to WRPGs - namely because they're not RPGs and they're defined by how many hours of terrible cutscenes they have.

Japanese strategy games, all three of them, are utter trash in terms of actual play(Sengoku Rance/Fire Emblem stuff is fun but it's not really strategy).

Japanese shooters are animu garbage.

Japanese stealth games are cheap, less creative, almost entirely plagiarized knock-offs of Western stealth games but with shittier AI(see: anything form Kojima)

Jap horror games are the only place where Japs had an advantage…up until the indie market exploded and now the Japs are lagging behind the West again.

Being honest, is there any genre where Japs produce better games overall? Fighting games? Bullet Hell? Because I can't really think of anything worthwhile.

>>15486695

>at least Mortal Kombat games standed out not being SF-clones in its inception

They didn't have a lot of depth into them, though. And the bit of depth it had it was pretty retarded. For me, early MK games were party games. Amusing, fun, but not particularly challenging multiplayer-wise.

>MK9 is uncomparable in its quality to what Midway was doing after MK4 onwardst they also lost the "quality" in its extra content

Sure, I give you this. I loved Armageddon despite all it's flaws because of all the contents. Being able to play with all previous characters was nice. Problem wasmost ofthem were almost the fucking same gameplay-wise And fuck the goddamn Fatalities, like jesus, first time I found out about it I was so disappointed I almost stopped playing right away.

Imagine if they released a game with MK9 aesthetics and gameplay and the roster of MKA.

>They need to get Tobias back since he was the idea guy. Noob needs its Saibot

Couldn't agree more. Ed Boon is kind of a faggot too.

>>15486761

>WILL PROBABLY HIT YOU BUT IF YOU ARE CAREFUL YOU CAN AVOID IT BUT PROBABLY NOT

Can agree with this. It's really fucking unfair that a faggot in 8th place can fuck you this way. In Jak X it was really funny because the Peace Maker killed cars in it's way as well. Being able to avoid it while in the first place should be mandatory though, but extremely difficult, although doable. There's a way to avoid the blueshell in the Wii Mario Kart.But it's really fucking unpractical.

>>15486801

>>15486801

There's an "anti item" in Mario Kart 8 that was created to negate blue shells but also works on anything they throw at you. Modnation Racers and LBP Karting also have defensive play if you to give up items or boost.

>Imagine if they released a game with MK9 aesthetics and gameplay and the roster of MKA.

Well, MK9 was a MK Trilogy remake/reboot with a few 3D era characters like Quan Chi and Kenshi. If anything they fucked up really hard adapting Shinnok arc. Didn't SFIII and SCV teached about "replacing legacy characters with new kids"?

>>15486844

>Didn't SFIII and SCV teached about "replacing legacy characters with new kids"?

Street Fighter II, Tekken 3 and Garou: Mark of the Wolves did that same thing, but they actually did well.

>>15486801

>They didn't have a lot of depth into them, though. And the bit of depth it had it was pretty retarded. For me, early MK games were party games. Amusing, fun, but not particularly challenging multiplayer-wise.

Forgot about this but it's not really past other games at its time. Street Fighter II has random damage and Samurai Shodown 1 has RNG for disarming blantaly lying telling you to mash your buttons.

>>15486791

Considering the only western fighting games are basically Mortal Kombat/Injustice, Skullgirls, Not-MLP and Fantasy Strike both still in Early access , I guess Japan still has a wide advantage in that genre.

>The entire history of gaming in terms of the West/East divide has been the West invents something, then the West perfects it then Japan catches wind of it and makes it terrible but now with more autism.

As far as I know, platforming, beat'em up and fighting games were invented in Japan as most arcade games.

>>15486845

No, and that specific aspect is less to do with my lack of autism for menus and more to do with my particular brand of autism for historical inaccuracies. Civlization games have the same problem for me

>Abraham Lincoln built stonehenge and founded the religion of Buddhism!

It's just too silly and dumb. That's why I enjoy Alpha Centauri way more than Civlization because it lacks all the dumb flavor.

>>15486844

Jak X had that already in the form of the defensive shield. In retrospective Jak X had so many great things as a kart racing game

>You can store red eco and yellow eco weapons at the same time, giving you means of defense and attack at the same time, like Double Dash of sorts

>You can gain blue eco for boost by drifting, by stage item, by doing tricks or by killing opponents

>Blue Eco could also be stored to use whenever you want or need, maybe even constantly, giving you crazy speed

>All weapons had 2 modes with the dark Eco, which you gather by killing enemies and lose if you're killed yourself

It was such a fantastic kart game. It's a shame it isn't too popular. Wish this and Crash Team Racing had re-releases.

>If anything they fucked up really hard adapting Shinnok arc

Yeah, that's why I said MKX ruined fucking everything, from story to characters and gameplay. MKX is dogshit compared to what MK9 was, even if MK9 was a bit lacking on itself.

>>15486878

This, tbh.

>>15486881

>Forgot about this but it's not really past other games at its time

I know. I'm not saying MK was the only flawed fighting game of it's time, fighting games were polishing themselves at the time, but it was bad on it's own terms as a multiplayer game, as I said. It was still fun, though. More than you can say about modern fighting games.

>>15486883

>historical inaccuracy

Not necessarily, you are inherently. It's set in that specific period, yes, but after that it's a brand new world.

>Lincoln building stonehenge

Yeh, honestly I'd love to see a Civ-Total War crossbreed where you can create your own civilization completely from scratch. That would make my dick hard.

>Alpha Centauri lacks the dumb flavor

Eeeh, Iunno'bout dat! How much do you believe in tentacle space lizards? In all seriousness, though, Space 4X is at the same time getting flooded with games(these last 4 years there's been like 20+ games) and most of them are the same. Stellaris was fun - by far my favorite 4X to date(it minimizes on the autism of some of my favorite tittles while introducing more political options) but the combat makes me want to die.

I'd love to see a Space 4X game with a properly competent combat system. I wouldn't even want massive navies, I'd want smaller strike forces of 1-12 ships real-world-style operating in 3D space. Like Battlefleet Gothic but with an additional dimension…frankly, I'd even take just like Battlefleet gothic but with less arcady micro and more preplanning and realistic tactics.

Reading this, I finally realize how much of a sperg I am on 4X.

>>15486951

>How much do you believe in tentacle space lizards? I

It's not that I believe in them, it's that they have an actual internal consistency. Civilization lacks any sense of consistency with what it is at all. You have spearmen blowing up apache attack helicopters and specific real-world characters and monuments being thrown around and mashed up and it doesn't work. It's easy to believe that the cyborg faction built the time travel monument before the radical libertarian faction, but it's less easy to believe that the Americans built the Pyramids of Giza somewhere in Europe.

The use of things too specific and grounded in our world, but in a world that's not consistent at all with our world, is the issue.

Twitch-based fantasy shooters, turn-based strategy games, ASSFAGGOTS, tycoons, and any MMOs.

I suck at all these. This isn't comprehensive, I haven't tried all genres. Any hints on what genres I will suck at?

>>15487221

Would you suck at Platformers?

>>15486488

SCII has AI that GGs when they feel they've lost.

>>15486331

sauce?

>>15487368

So if a mexican girl pull that will she automatically become a man and will own /leftypol/?

>>15487401

>soundless webm

Cuckchan

>>15487408

i meant the artist you dumb faggot

>>15487420

Ask on cuckchan.

>>15487407

If she has a dick - yes.

>>15486281

Hows that shitphone, Anon?

>>15487368

Kek'd. The female is a qt3.14 though.

>>15487407

Why mexican?

>>15487335

>But she still suffers from being a character in western cartoon.

>implying

RPGs. I have never played a single RPG that I would consider good or enjoyable.

>>15486351

>why does every character only have ONE style of play?

That's more a LoL problem because of their mandatory bullshit. DOTA 2 has allowed you to do all kinds of builds. Just this last TI had Wraith King played as both a position 1 and a 5. Same with Enchantress but she went 3 through 5 instead.

>>15486143

Battle royale.

>>15487756

Not as stylized, but it comes close.

>>15487756

Not really, considering OP's image is based on that photo.

>>15487756

That's just creepy, I can't tell if it's a heavily photoshoped human or a doll.

>>15486143

Roguelikes, MUDs, ASSFAGGOTS, visual novels and whatever dwarf fortress is, there's also this >>15486157 but i don't consider those games, same with mobage.

Pure autism.

<can't get into

>RTS/Fighting

Nothing wrong with having to train before hopping into multiplayer, but you just like have to guess if you're good enough to beat someone to hop into the Multiplayer. And how can you know if you're ready when your only method to train with is going against bots?

<do not get

>RPG

Even on the best-acclaimed RPGs, the playable character has very little importance, background or role besides his interaction with other characters and his ingame tasks.

Also they're supposed to be very story-based, yet the stories in RPGs always seem to have the same plot formula, character archetypes and settings, be it Japanese high fantasy or Western GoT shit. Most of the interesting settings i've seen in videogames are almost always on gameplay-focused games.

>CRAPCUNTS

They do interesting stuff experimenting with things like mobility, but none of them really are team-based at all. Overwatch is just "one or two guys spam Q and their Ult properly to win", Paladins is "make sure your team isn't organized like shit at the beginning" and TF2 is "try to not end up on a shit tier team because of matchmaking and see who pushes better"

>>15486412

this guy is true, I love fightan games and am quite okay at them and one thing I realized is I have a brother and lots cousins to play fighting games with I naturally got okay at them, even now I almost go to my neighbor house and we duke it out in 3rd strike and garou. they are actually not all that hard there is hardly anything to remember, my opinion is that the pad is really bad for fighting games which is most approachable and a lot of people don't know stick, but people insist on using that despite not being familiar. otherwise the combos and shoryu motion become natural after a day considering you are playing with something you already know like keyboard. real hard thing is actually being able to beat your opponents and that is too much variable and require experience and stuff inputs are hardly a matter go open your favorite looking fightan and play with keyboard. but having local friends or someone to compete with help a lot. even tho a lot of things which actually matter and separate you from random players I learned them all online but I do admit initial spark of competition and love for fighting games came from playing with my brother. fightan games are cool everyone go play them. look at garou, breakers revenge, kizuna encounter, karnov's revenge, 3rd strike, pi metrimelee under night in birth, Iamp, rage of the dragon just look at how cool they look

>>15486614

>the gameplay is shit and i have no desire to play it.

Being able to play it, and being good at it are two different things, and Dota 2 is one of the, if not the hardest multiplayer game.

>>15487675

Leftie is Katya Lischina, you can tell from the shade of violet lenses and the profile of her eyes. Katya Lischina is not a man, she's an adorable Russian-Japanese cutiebomb and if you say anything bad about her from 5 years ago I will rape you.

I specify 5 years ago because, as she's grown into her 20s she's steadily lost cuteness and gained excessive blandness. These days she's a face you physically can't remember.

>>15488086

She's one nasty fuckhead.

Now come over and fuck the soul out of me.

>>15488086

>Katya Lischina

I remember that name, I just didn't recognize the face. It's true she's a rare beauty.

3d Hack and slash. The most repetitive game play out there right behind MMOs, (which I don't also see the appeal to either). I enjoy playing hack and slash for about 30 mins then get bored. I always feel like in those 30 minutes you already witness most of what the game consist of. 2d h&s have more appeal.

>>15488193

what do you consider a H&S? Not trying to ride your ass here but would you consider DMC or Ninja Gaiden to be H&S or "action"?

>>15488205

I consider both of those games to be H&S. Space marine was the only one in which I didn't easily get board with. I can't explain why sometimes I think I'm just being a picky faggot.

>>15488147

*Was

Like I said, these days you couldn't remember her face if you tried. She's become that plain.

>>15488062

>game has click to move

>you can't swivel your character's orientation

>there are abilities based on what direction your character is facing

>>15488228

If you said something like Dynasty Warriors I'd feel you but stuff like DMC/NG are my favorite kind of games. Kinda surprised you'd find them boring but not gonna get on your case about it like that

>>15486276

You sound like a nigger that thinks Dragonball Fighter Z is the pinnacle of gaming.

I understand a lot about fighting games, but at the same time, I don't know why they can't just have a good control scheme, and decent single player content.

>>15486143

Real time strategy games

>>15488278

>I understand a lot about fighting games

<jk lmao

>>15488294

Why not just make them control good, and have more effort put into single player than none at all? Smash Bros manages both of those things.

>>15488297

You're negating the sentence about knowing a lot about fighting games by saying they don't control good.

The point about single player content is true, though.

>>15488306

I can do the motions if I have to, but it's still ultimately an annoying barrier between me and my fun.

>>15488313

That's a preference, not an objective problem with them. Lacking single player content is objective, not liking motions isn't. Don't present your personal shit as unbiased.

>>15488323

You could streamline and intuitivise the controls without losing any complexity of gamplay. Every other genre tends towards this. First person shooters were kind of clunky, and then they invented mouselook. Only fighting games seem to be averse to this.

>>15486143

Third Person Shooters. I don't understand the appeal of having a built in obstacle you have to compensate for when trying to kill something. It sounds like it would be better with shoulder switcher, but then that just exacerbates the problem. The artificial difficulty is greatly increased by the fact the AI, obviously, doesn't have to deal with these shortfalls and can instantly engage you.

>>15488340

>everyone does it, so this should do it too

Not an argument.

Motions are already pretty standardized to be Street Fighter/KoF style. There's no barrier of entry except to someone who's not used to fighting games.

>>15488357

I got used to them enough to decide I don't like them. I gave it a honest try. I just don't think it feels good.

>>15486143

>FPS give you vertigo

this and rpg like it such as fallout. I powered through New Vegas though that surprised me.

>>15488361

Good for you.

>>15488379

So is there a reason why they're good, other than they've been that way for years and you're used to it? I thought you were going to have something.

>>15488389

I don't know why you expect me to try to convince you. I don't care if you don't like them.

Motions add an extra level of challenge and depth to the genre. Smash bros is stupidly simplified to the point where options are more limited by not having light/medium/heavy versions of motion moves. Plus the up+special move button, down+ special move button removes the option of having normals with those motions. Traditional fighting games are about reducing the stage to a smaller and more focused arena with many more moves and options.

>>15488442

Smash Bros is simplistic on purpose. A game that forgoes motions wouldn't have to be just like Smash Bros. And even if you end up retaining some motions, you can still simplify the movements as much as possible. Quater circles feel a lot better than half ciricles or Z motions, so exhaust those inputs first.

Right now fighting games remind me of motion control. Sure, I could swing the wii-mote to hit that guy, but I'd rather just press a button. It's faster, more responsive, and doesn't make my arm tired after half an hour.

>>15488492

>Smash Bros is simplistic on purpose.

Just like fighting games aren't, on purpose.

>Quater circles feel a lot better than half ciricles or Z motions

To you, maybe. I don't have a problem with them. Was that your critique?

>>15488505

Controls should opt toward the lest amount of movement. a button press is faster and more responsive than stick up + stick down + button press. Imagine if you had to press two buttons to make Mario jump, when you can easily do it with one. That would just feel like an arbitrarily large amount of work. This is why motion controls were such a short lived fad. People realised they were just substituting button presses for extra work.

>>15488548

Bad analogy. Circumstances where Mario has to jump are more immediate and reflex based than having to pull a motion move. Blocking, moving, jumping and even normals are all a single button.

Your argument moved from "motion controls are bad" to "OK, they're necessary, quarter circle is fine, but I don't like half circles".

I don't have a problem with half circles. This seems to be entirely an issue with your preference. Is that the end of your argument?

Has there been any new non hybrid genres? I think we've hit the ceiling in terms of genres

>>15488548

>Controls should opt toward the lest amount of movement.

Have you tried playing a 3D fighter? Rumor has it that most moves can be accessed by either a button on its own and, if that's not the case, a button and one direction.

>>15488562

Motions are still worse than a button press, but if your controller only has so many buttons, you have to make do. I would also opt for shoulder button modifiers before motions.

Button press > hold shoulder + button press > basic motion > complex motion

You should exhaust the simpler options first, and only toward the more complex ones if there are so many moves that you can't fit them all on the controller (and that rarely seems to be the case).

Yes, this is my personal preference. If your personal preference is making unnecessary work for yourself, have fun with that, I guess. Perhaps you would like to play a game of Chess with pieces made of soap, or eat soup with a fork.

>>15488583

That's a different genre though.

>>15488365

>FPS giving vertigo

I don't get that, I know it's a thing but I don't get it.

>>15486143

The only Hotel Transylvania games are some lame pikmin clone.

>>15488602

Slanteyes can't handle anything less that fish eye vision.

>>15488600

>That's a different genre though.

A fighting game's a fighting game.

>Button press > hold shoulder + button press > basic motion > complex motion

This sounds like a great idea, but it starts getting messy when you want to pull out the exact move you want to do.

Dead or Alive tried to do something similar, only instead of pressing a different button, you used the pressure sensitivity of the buttons to access multiple moves. What should have happened was you needed less button combinations to access the moves you wanted. What actually happened was you got the move that you didn't want because you pressed the button too hard when in that do-or-die situation.

There's also the issue of balance. Super Street Fighter IV 3D edition allowed one to map special moves to the touch screen. The end result is that characters based around charge motions, especially Guile, became borderline unbeatable. The weaknesses they had, which came about because of their motions, was now removed and the end result was that they could now wreck shop with little effort.

There's also the argument to be made about different controllers and how they would be able to handle modifier buttons, the question of how many modifier buttons there should be, what moves should be locked behind the modifier, how many different modifiers there could be and more. Suddenly a simple solution to a problem that didn't really exist in the first place becomes a bit more complex.

>>15488492

Z motions aren't bad, think of them as 2-3-2-3 as opposed to 6-2-3.

>>15488592

I don't consider half circles to be much more complex than a quarter circle, they're roughly on the same level, so fighting games already do what you're describing. Holding several buttons together is already used for command grabs and special attacks/supers.

>If your personal preference is making unnecessary work for yourself, have fun with that, I guess

I do have fun with that. It's how all fighting games work. You're the one who locked himself out of options due to this.

>Perhaps you would like to play a game of Chess with pieces made of soap, or eat soup with a fork.

You seem to love coming up with terrible analogies to back up your preferences.Let me remind you you're the one who wanted to have this conversation.

>>15488340

The inputs aren't that hard to learn. If you're using the dpad or keyboard, just slide your fingers. It's even easier with a stick.

Asking for a dedicated special buttons is like demanding that all shooters need autoaim, a single context sensitive button, and ultimates.

>>15488695

The issue is that they're more complex than they need to be. And all shooters should have autoaim, if you're playing them on a console. It compensates for the imperfect control method.

>>15488324

exploring a world i guess. of course, you can still do that with a sense of challenge to it.

>>15486143

I am getting anxiety from playing fast paced vidya and MOBAs,but I still keep playing them,even though getting anxious diminishes my perfomance in them

>>15488913

>direction+strong button as overhead,

Scratch that. direction+strong button are grabs already. I'm mixing up games. direction+weak button are used as antiair or overheads

>>15488913

i have to say, sylvie really arouses me

JRPGS, they are clunky and always way too busy

>>15488602

Don't know a friend explained it about it involving field of vision. Where the brain reconzies that distance isn't right.

JRPGS are for depressed gamers who like to sit alone in their dark room to play slow games.

MOBAs and online shooters of any kind. I have really poor reflexes and am a bit slow so I've never been able to get into fighting games, as cool as I think they are. My favorite games to look at have always been 2d, sprite based fighters like Garou and Samurai Showdown and I'd always buy them as a kid even though I sucked.

Actually, I loved AVP2 even though I said I didn't get online shooters. That was the one the only one that ever "clicked" with me.

>>15487226

Come to think about it, yeah. Nice one.

That reminds me, I suck at rhythm games too.

>>15489127

>i only really like 2d games

>except for that first person game where you can crawl on walls an ceilings and your entire view flips around as you do so

that is a hell of an exception

Ever got the feeling that it's just one guy who have a hate boner for JRPGs? Sure, it could be more than one guy but this is /v/ after all..

>>15489192

What about on-rail shooters?

fps or at least i don't understand why people can play them but have so much trouble with fighting games. especially when most of the scrub complaints about fightan apply even worse in shooters

>memorization

still have to memorize maps

>bullshit deaths

being killed from behind, sniped or camped

>skill curve

reactions are a far bigger factor and the lack of determinism makes them far harder to mitigate

>balance

best weapons usually locked behind a grinding system

>>15488340

>>15488297

smash's complexity comes from movement, the characters themselves have far less going on than real fighting game characters. having complex motions allows for far more specific control and serves as a natural form of balance. they also allow characters to play and feel uniquely from one another. a move like ewgf avoids being broken because it is very hard to do, especially on reaction. and to say smash has simple controls isn't really accurate either. wavedashing in smash is a far more obtuse set of inputs than anything present in a fighting game

>>15489092

Get back in your grave Yamauchi.

I really don't enjoy fighting games (some are okay), VN's, most walking simulators (Cradle is the only good one), JRPG's, (barring Super Mario RPG), RTS's (I'm shit at them), horror games (because they're basically just walking simulators) and all of the general cancerous meme shit that's so popular nowadays like battle royal and survival/crafting.

>>15489338

Memorization doesn't even compare. Learning a map is a pretty natural process, they aren't usually that big or that complicated, and you can do it while you play to get better at the other parts. Moves have to be mastered in the practice room before you play at all, and there's a fuckload more of them.

Also only shit games have a grinding system at all. "Grinding" within a match like counterstrike's money resource is fine (CS is shit about memorization though, those spray patterns), but if it's anything else just don't play that shit.

>>15486331

thats cute

>>15489479

Is that Mavis?

>>15489530

Yes.

>>15489565

Oh come on, of course some crap move tie in game is gonna have shitty modelling.

>>15489565

>Derp face

What the fuck kinda abomination of vidya am I looking at?

>>15489565

>>15489616

also shes older by the time theres a tropical vacation movie. lolis are just cuter

>>15489669

She's 18 in the first movie mate.

>>15489683

Nah dude, she's like 180 being a vampire and all.

>>15489683

well she looks like a young teenager and so does her boyfriend, anyways 118. which now begs the question why would she grow at all in the relatively short time span between movies?

>>15489683

I feel slightly less like a pedo now. She was my one weakness.

>>15489245

Many JRPGs are turn-based games, so I naturally avoid them. That makes at least two people on /v/. I don't dislike anything outside of their gameplay, though. Their stories and character designs still tempt me from time to time, see Neptunia games.

>>15489252

Bullseye, mate.

>>15489354

>horror games

What about Resident Evil 1 up to Code:Veronica?

Silent Hill 1 to 4?

STALKER?

Granted, they're survival horror games, but they're still a subgenre within horror games.

>>15489479

>Excerrent

More like Ekkususerrento.

>>15489737

>cute goth girls don't exist because it's a dead subculture

>cute tomboys don't exist either because they were recruited by hard leftists telling any girl with a masculine hobby that they should start taking pills

REALITY IS A NIGHTMARE

>>15489965

>>cute tomboys don't exist either because they were recruited by hard leftists telling any girl with a masculine hobby that they should start taking pills

I don't know whether or not that's true for everyone since all tomboys I've known since grade school have grown up to be cute young ladies. They don't wear makeups or dress overly feminine to this day but they still have their naturally healthy skin free of synthetic chemicals.

I wish I could date even one of them, but they would probably look down on me since I'm weaker than them. I've been a weakling nerd since the first grade.

>>15489984

>He doesn't want a qt tomboy gf to carry hom around

>He thinks she wouldn't live that

>Even then he doesn't make the effort to be a bit stronger

The problem is not your body, anon, it's your mind

t. Spar with my qt tomboy gf

>>15486143

I kind of do not get sports games.

The only people that I know play them are the guys that play the sport.

>>15490031

Sure, mate. Been contemplating it.

>>15490032

>The problem is not your body, anon, it's your mind

True, I've just been exhausted due to personal problems. Still unemployed to this day, can't pay for gyms.

>>15490064

That reminds me, arcade dancing games are popular for tomboys too.

I've even seen some young women that are good in Gran Turismo. Times have changed.

>>15490117

And most of the time they play football games anyway. Sports games are generally despised here.

>>15490122

>Been contemplating it.

don't contemplate, just do it. even if you can't afford weights or a gym just start adding body weight exercise to your daily routines, you'll feel better believe me.

>>15489411

only 3d fighters have a large number of moves and even most of those are completely useless outside of gimmicks, most characters build their whole gameplan around 10 to 15 moves and even then the only ones you really need to know how deal with are lows.

>>15490152

with a pullup bar and some rings, you can build solid foundational strength & then decide if you want to go further into weightlifting or just do backflips & shit

>http://www.startbodyweight.com/2014/01/basic-routine-infographic-poster.html

gl anon, qt tomboys still exist and i'm sure you'll find one

>>15489956

Not even on-rails? Crud. How about turn-based tactical games? No wait..you hated those. I dunno, puzzle games?

>>15490187

Thanks to you too, anon. The poster is barely readable, though. I'll stick to sit ups and push ups.

Tried getting into gyms in 2016, weightlifting felt good but the costs became too expensive now.

>even then the only ones you really need to know how deal with are lows.

Pretty sure alternating between lows, forward, and high moveset is essential in fighters.

t. regular DOA5 player

>>15490191

You got another one mate. Puzzle games feel boring. Nowadays I play slow-paced tactical games and simulators.

MOBA's

>>15486154

I played Jedi Dark Forces again recently since release and was fucking nauseous 30 minutes in. I can't deal with that FOV anymore.

>>15490122

>can't pay for gyms

You can just train at home. It isn't hard.

>>15491903

It's actually harder to train at home than at gym for a number of reasons.

>>15486154

Yeah I know a guy who can't play FPS without feeling like he has to puke. Even some third person games he can't play.

I can't play RTS. I've loved the genre since my cousin showed me Starcraft 64 but I cannot play it for shit.

Games that are all about replay value. I'm talking games like Bayonetta where you finish it but everyone keeps saying "No no no, you're supposed to play through it again now."

Like, fuck. I beat the game and my reward is to go back and do it all again (but with less health)?

The games can be mad fun and I'll appreciate that, but when I'm told to just go back and do it again in order to get the full™ experience, it sours the whole thing for me and I never bother doing it.

On another note, modern MMOs, but I probably don't need to explain that one. What really kills me is that there are no MMOs that really focus on interacting with other players, or having interesting quests that aren't just raids.

>>15492286

I love mmos and fuck interacting with other players tbh I just want to grind in peace.

Thank god devs picked that up so now you can just solo shit or get matched automatically.

MMOs

They are boring as FUCK.

>>15492209

Not true

t. exerciser who can only do it at home

>>15486154

I'm prone to vertigo, not sure why

I think it's a genetic thing

Most FPSs I can handle just fine, but if there's ever a point where I need to look for something small on the ground or get lost in a maze or something like that it comes on fast and hard, to the point where I have to lie down or I'll fall down

also I can't play the original Deus Ex, sets me off right away

no idea why, I think it might be the weird-ish lighting

>>15492270

This is a meme. Get some weights, get on keto(no dairy either), and stop being a faggot.

I don't get horror games. They usually just slower and shittier version of other genres.

>>15492270

I was looking for that poster, thanks anon.

>>15496278

>兄弟

Not gangster enough. Say it with me anon.

兄貴イイイイイイ！！！

>>15489721

Dobson pls

>>15502269

It's funny how common it is with western artists that the more they draw, the worse they get.

>>15502276

they become lazy, its sort of instead of putting actual effort now they learned how to cheat at it and get away with lazy stuff as long as their followers dont complain

>>15502269

Is "curent" some sort of fancy art term or is he just too stupid to spell current

>>15502796

I think it's a gook. Not sure but just about every one of those "not quite realistic but close enough to get tagged anyway" styles is done by one so I'll wager it.

>>15502269

Casual.

Multiplayer anything because I have no friends and playing with random people isn't fun.

I don't get fighting games.

I have shit reaction time for competitive FPS.

I don't have the time or patience to invest in online games.

I generally only play single player games.

I wish I could play some games in co-op with someone. But alas no friends to play with.

>>15514841

>>15515057

This is how I play,,,

>Mmo's & any non-hotseat multiplayer games

I mean it's the current year of our dead kike-puppet on a stick 2011+7, there's simply no decent communities to play these kind of games so why do so many of you fucks still do so?

>inb4 "i have freinds l0l :)"

So do i but that doesnt mean these are enjoyable when no matter what you have to interact with the common plebs at some point anyway.

>>15489737

More like

>no goth GF that's a healthy weight and is into dudes

>>15525805

why is jimmy neutron's older soy-laden brother grimacing at the mirror in hugh's bathroom, thats just quacking crazy jimbo

>>15525809

No, this is Jummy Neutron in current year

>>15525827

but james issac neutron is smart and was redpilled by his dad no way he could end up as a soy guzzling animal

>>15525842

>>15525842

He soyed to orbit Cindy's Vortex

>platformers

I just can't fucking do it. I played supermeatboy for a while and just hated every second of it. I don't know if mirror's edge counts but that's the closest thing to a platformer I have ever enjoyed.

>Battle royale FPS.

I don't get them. Every normalfag drools over them like a dog in heat.

>Sports games.

Just why. I certainly understand not wanting to destroy your ligaments during team sports, but why not just spend the time lifting and getting big? Aren't video games supposed to be about things you can't do in real life?

>>15525867

I don't think it's possible to be bad at an MMO.

driving games. yawn.

i get open world games but i don't enjoy them,

the level design cant be challenging and the actual content is so diluted that none of it feels engaging or rewarding. collect em ups for pretty much the same reason.

>>15515057

>fighting games

it's basically like playing a game of only boss fights with really in depth combat choices except the bosses are constantly adapting to everything you do instead of just being a couple of fixed patterns. outside of that the appeal is playing a game that truly rewards your increases in skill without any bullshit between you and the core of the game.

>>15514841

multiplayer is a good way to make friends anon

>>15525808

all of this. except for one fighting game. smash bros is good.

>>15488021

>Dota 2 is one of the, if not the hardest multiplayer game.

8 days late but i had to come back to say you are a retard.

>>15525855

Super Meat Boy is one of the worst platformers that ever got big.

>static screen

>no music to speak of

>sound effects are all stock shit

>absolutely dreadful art

>level design is either "learn how to get past this overly tight obstacle course with no options" or "abuse the busted physics to fly past everything"

Real platformers were actual adventures with interesting mechanics, not slip and slide simulators with a ground beef coat of paint.

>>15526126

>>no music to speak of

I agree with everything else but what the actual fuck? Game had plenty of fairly good music

>>15486157

They're not really about dancing.

Unless you're talking tardwiggle (stuff like DDR), then it's shit normalfags edo at parties.

>>15526928

I call them RHYTHM games

>>15502269

but turn based RPG's had nothing to do with computing power.

>(1)

Or are you baiting me?

I mostly play games for the feel of playing with them, engaging with an elaborate system that puts your wits to the test with a variety of mechanics against creative and challenging designs. So I don't understand the appeal of management style games, spreadsheet style games or RTS games. Grand Strategy seems about as fun as using Windows, and RTS games so often lack a unique element they could all be summed up as click and drag games. The only exception I've seen to this is Majesty the Fantasy Kingdom Sim which is basically as un-RTS as an RTS could be. To the disappointment of all the big brained RTS autists, prepared to exclaim that I'm just not smart enough or don't get it, that's fine. I don't care to get it. I've played dozens and they all bore me. Funnier still because games like Full Spectrum Warrior which has you intimately engaging in real time tactics, planning and problem solving is all the more enjoyable.

>>15526138

I don't think so, it doesn't help that it was very repetitive. Didn't every world have just one or two tracks per level? I barely even remember. Doesn't help the game had inherent input lag.

>>15528567

>Didn't every world have just one or two tracks per level?

4 tracks per area (light world, dark world, boss, war)

>>15528642

Yeah, it got pretty repetitive.

I would never understand wasting time on Pokemon but Retardy is alright/

I don't get the appeal of visual novels or walking simulators, not much if any gameplay. Especially some of the long ass visual novels, like just read a book lmao

>>15528706

Treat them as an interactive film rather than as a game.

Sports games. Because players with high stats wont care how "good" you are in the game.

>>15486143

I don't really get grand strategy games. Also, I "get" 2d fighting games, but don't enjoy them.

>>15541868

>I "get" 2d fighting games, but don't enjoy them.

I have a hard time believing this, which fighting games did you try so far?

>>15528706

I can understand VNs if they're built around self insertion (since you can really feel like you're living out your fantasies and whatever), but anything else doesn't really make sense to me.

>>15541873

>which fighting games did you try so far?

street fighter V, and the king of fighters steam edition. I also know that I played some other 2d fighter games in the arcades when I was a kid, I know street fighter 2 and maybe more, but I can't remember because it was so long ago.

>>15488242

I've heard that people who look good when they're younger tend to look worse when they're old and vice versa.

>>15486394

Imagine being this pretentious.

>>15487323

Its addiction in its purest form anyone, and when they're surrounded by a community of addicts all loving on each other, what point is there in stopping? All your friends are addicts to it, hell even your SO might be. Why stop? that's the reasoning from my perspective, anyhow.

>>15487335

>But she still suffers from being a character in western cartoon.

>(((western))) cartoon

>>15541889

Play Samurai Shodown >>15486430 >>15486695 Or try some 3D games like Virtua Fighter, DOA and SoulCalibur.

But this guy might have the right idea >>15487996 >>15486412 It's a world of difference in experience if you play against someone at your level unless you're a storyfag. Then you might have Mortal Kombat, Blazblue and few others depending on your taste or even go with beating arcade mode for each character in older games to get to know better said characters.

>>15541889

>KOF Steam Edition

Forgot about this part. Both KOFXIII and KOFXIV are called that and they are quite different from eachother not only in graphics but characters and mechanics. But I still would recommend free options like KOF'98 to play online on fightcade or '97 and 2000 for story. DOA5 is f2p and older Virtua Fighter or SoulCalibur SCII is the best regarded in gameplay while III has loads of single player content you probably can emulate. Older Samurai Shodown games are also easily available on emulators.

>>15541850

> not liking girl's voices

>>15543396

I love that there are so many options for playing SCII these days. You've got the original PS2/XBox/GameCube releases of course, with the Xbox mode supporting a pseudo-720p mode that looks just a bit nicer than the others, or you can play SCII HD Online for an official release with true 720p and widescreen, or you can emulate the PS2 or GameCube versions at crazy high custom resolutions.

You know, platformers sometimes give me vertigo, especially when it's a 3D platfomer and it wants me to keep going up and up and up.

RTS and those rpgs that are made in rpg maker.

>>15547431

I have social anxiety and don't enjoy multiplayer that much either

>>15486143

2D platformers.

If there are other elements it's fine, but a raw platformer to me is very boring. when the games start focusing on the platforming more than the combat, or whatever other elements are in the game, i quickly become disinterested.

not sure why this is. i dont even hate the genre.

>>15547359

The only enjoyment i get out of RTS games are the single player campaign. multiplayer is just a rush to build fighting units and send them over. there is no real strategy involved in the combat itself. I always felt like the most fun part of the game was advancing and building advanced units and making a cool base that can withstand larger attacks, or putting units into formations and having them attack/hold chokepoints, but instead the units just swarm to the objective, and this is such an afterthought that even in AOE games the formation options arent even available by default. but online matches arent usually like that anyway.

its like they built a fun system to play with, but realistically 90% of it will never be utilized.

>>15486451

>join the next big tournament then and cash in on the million of bucks they have

as prize money.

I don't have the (((connections))) to get in though.

>>15486355

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dvj1xFWfHM