14ed9c No.15482978
>reading about races in D&D
>Aquatic elf
>check NWN if they have that
>it only goes all the way to wild elfs
>the most exotic characters are the Planetouched
I wish there was a NWN 3 were you can play as aquatic elves and exploring the depths of the ocean.
fdeced No.15483050
NWN 3 will never happen
If it does, it would be pozzed as hell and be filled with dodgy business practices like DLC races and paid mods.
Just play and mod the old games, at least publishers can't ruin what's already released.
14ed9c No.15483077
talking about mods and shit, anything that sends you to adventures to other places in Faerûn? shit is pretty big
>>15483050
>at least publishers can't ruin what's already released.
there are enhanced editions out there, anon-kun
61cf7a No.15483084
>>15483050
I thought NWN Online was 3.
fdeced No.15483092
>>15483077
Don't remind me, i'm pretending that they don't exist.
>NWN 2 Enhanced edition
>Neeshka is now trans
>Sand is given extra scenes where he's misogynist against Qara
>Qara did nothing wrong shitlords
7e19bb No.15483093
>>15483084
Pretty much, it does have DLC races those being the Moon Elves and Dragonborn.
fdeced No.15483103
>>15483084
Probably, and it seems to be based on 4th ed which is why it's going to be trash.
I'm waiting for Kingmaker to come out just to see how pozzed it will be. If it doesn't have any poz, maybe we could pretend it's NWN 3.
14ed9c No.15483107
>>15483084
>NWN Online was 3.
it was only called neverwinter, dont know why they dropped night thingy.
>>15483092
>Neeshka is now trans
bullshit, i dont believe you.
fdeced No.15483112
>>15483107
It's a potential future, didn't they do that to Baldur's gate?
254250 No.15483154
>>15483112
Nein.
They release some shitty EXPANSION for BG1 and some weird char says a idiotic sentence or two and that´s about it.
Neverwinter Nights ENHANCED is the ULTIMATE open source MMO and it´s driving me bonkers that the niggers here are spouting all this bullshit about it the whole time.
Neverwinter is STILL the ONLY client server architecture available to us to create our own private servers and connect them to each other.
and FUCKING BEAMDOG IS MODERNIZING THE DAMN BASTARD!
At first to fucking 64bit so the fucking thing actually works properly on modern computers WHILE fixing all the tard bugs from back when.
AND the ORIGINAL project lead actually IS responsible for doing it, having a weekly fucking podcast about it (quite amusing at times, actually).
14ed9c No.15483169
>>15483112
>It's a potential future
god dammit, anon, dont post shit like that, especially about best girl.
>Baldur's gate?
I only remember a strong independent womyn character that doesnt need an MC to help her in the 1.5 dragon something game they released and dont know if it was BG or BG2 where they changed a women companion from being really charming and seductive to the MC to something completely different
>>15483154
>Neverwinter Nights ENHANCED is the ULTIMATE open source MMO
>beamdog doing something right
>mfw
55a7e2 No.15483188
Sorry, OP. That would've required development to focus on something other than canned dialogue trees and gay love interests.
fdeced No.15483208
>>15483169
If NWN EE made actual improvements like allowing 4 classes, I would consider buying it. Unfortunately it seems like another case of rereleasing a game because the Industry lacks creativity.
254250 No.15483215
>>15483169
Well the fuckers released YET ANOTHER major bugfix for pretty much ALL the damn enhanced editions the other month. So they´re doing something, right?
Still not getting this kneejerk Beamdog hate here and I´m not even caring anymore.
Neverwinter was revolutionary beck then and that still hasn´t changed for fucking 20(?) years.
Anybody resurrecting that old codebase carcass has my vote.
And last podcast the bossman announced they were already building the GOG version.
I´ll buy in probably even on release and I NEVER do that.
The Nostalgia Boner is just too hard for me to resist.
248279 No.15483241
Racial prereqs for Prestige Classes were a mistake unless that race has something absolutely vital to the class' function.
254250 No.15483250
>>15483208
>Unfortunately it seems like another case of rereleasing a game because the Industry lacks creativity.
THAT´S actually a good point.
I would´ve agreed with it had I not watched one of these Beamdog podcasts.
On the other hand everybody always complains new games are shit and why are there no good new ones.
Why not just buy the actual rights to the old games and ENHANCE them?
Which is pretty much what they´re doing and so far they all work greatly.
fdeced No.15483253
>>15483215
There's a "hateboner" because what the company does is dodgy as hell.
Not to mention their history of terrible additions, like Siege of Dragonspear.
Their effort could have been put into making new games but they are soo creatively bankrupt and talentless that anything they do add ends up being garbage, so they do George Lucas style rereleases where they make minor changes and resell the game at full price.
The film industry lambasted George for his dodgy practices, so too should we when Beamdog does the same thing.
14ed9c No.15483255
>>15483215
>Still not getting this kneejerk Beamdog hate here
>I´m not even caring anymore.
>I´ll buy in probably even on release and I NEVER do that.
GET THE FUCK OUT!
>>>/leddit/
254250 No.15483322
>>15483253
>Not to mention their history of terrible additions, like Siege of Dragonspear.
You mean THE ONLY ADDITION?
An actual creative addition
Sure they had a fuking mental case tranny or something add some shitty char and the usual suspects in house probably oohed and aahed appropriately at the wanker.
So fucking what. The rest seemed OK from what I hear.
One of these day I´ll actually buy the damn thing and make up my own mind about it instead of regurgitating the hive-mind like found here.
>
>Their effort could have been put into making new games
Why should they?
Their business decisions was to enhance the old games and that´s perfectly fine with me.
It costs money AND many man-hours to do that and that needs to be paid for.
Earning money is dodgy?
Neverwinter is still revolutionary as a client-server architecture including LIVE dungeon-master capability AND a freely available content creator.
If they made enough money to finally enhance THAT, I have no problems with it.
2a3649 No.15483325
>>15482978
what is the prc pack? I'm currently playing as a drider sorc and a mindflayer something
>>15483154
what improvements are they bringing server wise besides 64 bit?
ba90e2 No.15483346
254250 No.15483357
>>15483325
Yeah they actually talked about this, look up their blog and scroll through the casts.
64bit is simply a massive undertaking and right now binding most of all their resources. GFX enhancements and 64bit itself will allow for other stuff.
14ed9c No.15483358
>>15483325
>what is the prc pack?
>The largest custom content release for NWN ever at over 175 base and prestige classes, psionics, truenaming, tome of battle, hundreds of spells, hundreds of feats, hundreds of races, a complete revamp of epic spellcasting, a complete PnP crafting system, new skills, and many more exciting pieces of content, all taken directly from official Dungeons and Dragons material published by Wizards of the Coast.
sounds like fun, i will give it a try, thanks for the info, anon.
2a3649 No.15483429
>>15483357
if they can really pull this off before we all die of old age a modern nwn pserver might be the best "mmo" experience available. If the prc pack can be ported over the features would be endless.
cfce53 No.15483436
>>15483154
>giving beambog money
>ever
just get NWN diamond edition and patch it to 1.69 instead
fdeced No.15483439
>>15483322
>If I spend money in something, I am entitled to profit
As I explained in the last post, this sort of laziness is frowned upon in other artforms, why should we cheer it now? Because money was spent? They could have combined nwn 1 and 2 onto a new engine with massive improvements, they could have made a new game which would be infinitely better than the 4th ed trash known as Neverwinter, they could have done Anything but the bare minimum.
Why should we applaud a company for having shitty goals?? And even better, why should we give that same company money for achieving said low goals?
cfce53 No.15483447
>>15483154
>>15483215
oh, and don't forget
>beamdog NWN clients can't connect to non-beamdog NWN serversexcept that ERP server AND vice versa
though you can import characters from non-beamdog to beamdog, not all servers let you do that
THEY HAD ONE JOB
62c25b No.15483495
>>15483154
Fuck you Beamdog. Nobody likes your shit you fucking faggot shill.
Seriously, kill yourself.
9282a1 No.15488668
The utter blandness of NWN has killed all my three attempts to play it over the years. Good D&D games never ever when that kind of shit should be dominating everything, this timeline is fucked.
55a7e2 No.15488712
>>15488668
Ever since WOTC bought the brand it seems like any setting that isn't Forgotten Realms was dumped in the garbage. As far as I know there hasn't been a single Ravenloft, Spelljammer or Dark Sun game since the 90s.
345326 No.15488838
>>15488668
Hordes of the Underdark is really the only good official part of NWN.
e3fcb2 No.15488911
>>15488668
I skipped the main campaign and dived straight into the expansions because it was simply too boring for me to stomach. SoU and HotU were much better.
94eed1 No.15488916
4b0260 No.15488934
>>15488916
>not owning the game
>using a Apple-like (((app))) that forces update to use the software
This makes me think, can you even imagine using a Mac? You can't open the hardware and the software is forced down your throat, no wonder homosexual tend to choose Mac because they're used to taking up the ass.
58dca5 No.15488942
>>15488838
>>15488668
>>15488911
>HotU
>Spend whole campaign recruiting powerful NPCs, finding artifacts, shoring up position, etc.
>Endgame is using all the stuff you got against a massive invasion that would be totally overwhelming for just you and your party otherwise
Not kidding when I say this is my dream campaign, in vidya or tabletop. It's a shame it's such a rare theme.
a08603 No.15488952
You can mod it into the game easily. The entire game is about modding shit in.
c2a9a4 No.15488963
>>15483215
when they just add features and enhance the game they do okay. When they make additions we get the worst OCdonutsteels in Baldur's Gate history (okay, not as bad as Chloe)
Their port of Icewind Dale was a genuine improvement, adding in graphics for missing female half-size race/class combos instead of the original's default to male dwarf mage in addition to the UI improvements.
They didn't even fuck with the script despite an initial impression that they might have–the female dwarf in the starting tavern complaining about being misgendered due to her beard is in the original
I would like a thorough list of changes to NWN though, as well as other games they release
c2a9a4 No.15488970
>>15488911
the main campaign exists mostly to show off the engine. NWN was originally going to be purely a tool set, and they wanted to market it as such.
76db50 No.15489302
>>15483077
You are my nigger. You have no idea how long I've been looking for a map of Faerun, let alone that good of quality.
c2a9a4 No.15489359
>>15483107
>it was only called neverwinter, dont know why they dropped night thingy.
because SSI's Neverwinter Nights was a full MMO released in 1991, playable by AOL users
55a7e2 No.15489372
>>15489359
>tfw no scalemail wearing 80s hair gf
ce6cf0 No.15489488
>>15483050
>NWN 3 will never happen
A big reason for this is due to a complete shift in the market since NWN1.
When Neverwinter Nights was a thing, "people who play Dungeons and Dragons" was an actual viable market to sell a video game to. Now it's the complete opposite with games like Dungeons and Dragons focusing on the "World of Warcraft audience".
>>15489359
Not a lot of people know this but NWN1 was intended to be an mmo similar to the AOL game. It was in development for years and almost released in this state but at the last minute Bioware shifted the focus of the game to a singleplayer rpg with optional multiplayer. The reason at the time was because they were inexperienced with the network architecture at the time to make an mmorpg.
c2a9a4 No.15489662
>>15489488
>NWN1 was intended to be an mmo similar to the AOL game. It was in development for years and almost released in this state but at the last minute Bioware shifted the focus of the game to a singleplayer rpg with optional multiplayer.
I had heard for a couple years prior to release that they were making it as a distributable toolset. Never heard it was supposed to be an MMO instead
4689ce No.15489762
>>15483050
>>15483077
>>15483092
>If it does, it would be pozzed as hell and be filled with dodgy business practices like DLC races and paid mods.
>Don't remind me, i'm pretending that they don't exist.
>at least publishers can't ruin what's already released.
Remember these? Worth mentioning is that you can grab these DLCs FOR FREE on the neverwintervault as well as an offline authenticator generator that lets you play the game. Hell, the diamond version on GOG comes with the Kingmaker installer which include said expansion PLUS Shadowguard and Witch's Wake. There is literally no excuse to buy the enhanced edition because as far as I know, the changes are so minuscule that it doesn't make a damn bit of difference and is twice the price of the diamond edtion when it's not on sale assuming you don't pirate it, doesn't really matter. Got mine for free a long time ago during a giveaway on GOG
4689ce No.15489773
>>15489762
Nevermind, just checked the steam page more thoroughly. Kingmaker is included with the enhanced edition. Point is though, you can grab these for free and been able to for years
e0d1ef No.15490653
>>15483250
Can't really blame the entire industry for it when new IPs are coming out all the time. It's just that fixing NWN is probably hell of a lot cheaper than doing a full sized game at that scale and NWN has a fuckton of problems especially for modders. The website I used to get mods for this mentioned that quite a few modders are actually chipping in on what they want the fixed engine to do. Unless they cripple the game with ridiculous DRMs, I think it's an overall good thing.
0156d4 No.15491042
Neverwinter Nights is a pretty good slut simulator tbh, but the combat and stuff is pretty bad.
f5a28d No.15491361
>>15489762
All the EE did was to introduce new bugs and compability issues with older modules.
4689ce No.15491395
>>15491361
Really? Good old Beamdog. Worth mentioning is that they also remove the original versions from stores so that you have to buy their inferior products. Assuming you don't just pirate the originals. I also checked the price on the fanfic shitfest that is Siege of Dragonspear and it's still 20 dollars. It's the same price as the damned base game
f5a28d No.15491412
>>15491395
>Worth mentioning is that they also remove the original versions from stores so that you have to buy their inferior products.
For a much higher price. They're the one of the worst companies out there.
0189f7 No.15491417
>>15483322
>some fucking degenerate faggot added to the game in the shittiest way possible with no editing whatsoever because doing that would be mysogynist or whateverthefuck. It's complete lore ruining garbage that ignores literally everything established in the lore and in fact ruins it by virtue of certain canon items existing.
Seriously enablers like you are an even bigger problems than the pushers. If it's shit criticize it don't ignore it. It's terribly written in a game where it prides itself on WRITING. Fucking idiots like you should be gassed. I doubt you even consistently read actual literature of any kind.
>Earning money is dodgy
You really need to space your sentences properly. Earning money off others hard work and you barely contributed shit all to fixing or improving then you do not deserve their salary/budget.
Same reason mods don't get any fucking money from bethesda shit.
Come back when you have a fucking argument you small minded whale.
4689ce No.15491427
>>15491412
>They're the one of the worst companies out there
Twice the price if I'm not wrong. Although it is kind of odd that the old version of Neverwinter Nights and Icewind Dale 2 is still for sale on GOG even though every other original version of the games they fuck up has been removed from both GOG and Steam. Planescape Torment, Icewind Dale, Baldurs Gate 1 and 2, these have all been removed and replaced. Though the difference between the two is that NWN EE has been released and ID2 hasn't. So they're probably going to remove ID2 from GOG once they've fucked it up as well. Fuck Beamdog
328641 No.15491460
>>15482978
Needs more Orc qts tbhfamalam
a08603 No.15491467
>>15483322
>>Their effort could have been put into making new games
>Why should they?
This is the first time I've seen a shill say "It's about the money not the games" so blatantly
55a7e2 No.15491472
>>15491460
>orcess
>no obnoxious nigger/spic hair
It's too rare for its own good.
16ffbf No.15491477
>>15489359
>>15483107
Why do they keep beating around the bush with their titles?
>Neverwinter
>Baldur's Gate
>Waterdeep
Also, stop for a moment and think how one person's writings about a fan world to Gigax's shit has pretty much now become the "canon" world/plane for DnD. The Forgotten Realms.
0156d4 No.15491512
>>15491460
D&D orcs are uggos, anon.
0156d4 No.15491515
>>15488668
You should try the user modules, they're pretty neat.
d2c699 No.15491552
Beginner here, what's the best version of Neverwinter Nights 1? Non-enhanced Diamond, I assume?
38e82a No.15491559
>>15491472
>not wanting to bless the rains with your orcifu
Nigger leave
0156d4 No.15491583
>>15491552
Yeah, grab the diamond edition, GOG release works but then you might want to grab the critical 1.69 rebuilt patch anyway to ensure compatibility with all user modules. Then I think you can still grab the premium modules from the vault and the offline authenticator.
Also the OC sucks, the expansions are much better and can be played without the original campaign and are connected to one another. Then there's plenty of great user modules that have more effort put into them than the official stuff.
5a880c No.15491589
>>15491559
Draka was a cute, even if that movie sucked and she died in the stupidest way
345326 No.15491624
>>15491427
>Icewind Dale 2
They haven't touched that one because the source code is missing, plus it's a different ruleset.
e09fb3 No.15491636
>>15489359
>and quantum computer services
Was the quantum meme this old?
55a7e2 No.15491663
>>15491636
If you wanted to be a pedantic faggot then computers are quantum by definition but I guess there's a reason I'm not the guy writing advertising blurbs.
3d9957 No.15492503
Was NW2 actually good though ?
I remember trying the base campaign and getting bored when I was younger.
0156d4 No.15492535
>>15492503
Mask of the Betrayer was solid gold, the original campaign was pretty bland.
a08603 No.15492605
>>15491552
I think they're all the same (Minus EE) after the 1.69 patch? Also a lot of people shit on the OC.
The OC is weird.
It does this thing where each chapter (minus the last one) has a hub, with 4 areas connected to it that you need to visit. Each of these 4 areas usually has 2 routes you can take. Then there's a mini-transition chapter between each chapter. I think the first chapter did it the best, because each area of the city was pretty interesting. After that the main story goes to shit and the only thing interesting is the side-stories + transition chapters. Honestly I'd play the OC just for the first chapter then bug out, unless you want to see all the side-stories. Then again I have pretty hard nastolgia for it.
The best parts of the game is easily the custom modules and servers.
96c78e No.15492756
073e13 No.15492835
>>15491559
FUCK YOU
I AM SICK OF YOU GREENSKIN NIGGERLOVERS SHITTING UP EVERY THREAD ABOUT A GAME WITH YOU PIGFACED SAVAGES
YOU'RE JUST LIKE AN SJW, "B-BUH WHAT ABOUT DA PEEPO OF COLOURS!?!", "MUH SHORTSTACKS, MUH FANTASY NIGGERS"
FUCK YOU ON /v/, FUCK YOU ON /tg/, AND FUCK YOU EVERYWHERE ELSE, DUMP YOUR SHITTY GREEN NIGGERS IN HELL
e7f809 No.15496330
There are community content packs that probably have the aquatic elves. They have just about any variant race you could want. I never did figure out how to use the CCP on my own though.
cc7451 No.15496825
>>15483154
>Neverwinter Nights ENHANCED is the ULTIMATE open source MMO and it´s driving me bonkers that the niggers here are spouting all this bullshit about it the whole time.
>Neverwinter Nights ENHANCED
>open source
You don't know what that word means, do you?
012152 No.15497848
>>15491636
>Was the quantum meme this old?
The word quantum is well over a century old, the first time it's ever used for anything involving technology is in the early 1900's.
789f5b No.15497892
>>15489762
Is that Leona from LoL?
0156d4 No.15497948
>>15497853
I wonder if they'd stick some Trump stuff in there if it had gotten made now.
4ae1ab No.15498064
>>15497948
Of course. These people can't help them themselves and they certainly aren't here to make good products.
108f8c No.15498065
>>15497853
If this is BG, can't you kill everyone here?
4eaad2 No.15498118
>>15491042
>Neverwinter Nights is a pretty good slut simulator
how?
d4cc15 No.15498194
>>15492503
I really liked it back when it first came out and now as well.
>>15492605
Funny, I always thought that the worst part about the OC was the first chapter and that after that it gets a lot better.
SoU receives a lot of praise for being significantly more straightforward and digestible without some dubious parts tacked on, but the OC is still acceptable (and I'd say it has a better story).
It's not even nostalgia on my part, I actually have these games installed.
>>15491624
>IWD2
Is it good?
I played the first one until the final boss and stopped since I could barely damage him thanks to bullshit resistances.
I'll probably finish it at some point, likely when I decide to try 2.
49a6e3 No.15498476
>>15492503
>Was NW2 actually good though ?
yes
0156d4 No.15498495
>>15498118
There's a whole slew of modules focused on roleplaying sluts.
90daa8 No.15498784
>>15492503
The base campaign is a bit of a mixed ride. Act 1 is incredibly slow and boring, and drags on on way too longs, but it gets good with act 2. If you can slog through the first 10-15 hours you're rewarded with somehting that's actually interesting and fun.
The expansion Mask of the Betrayer is fucking great though, and the OC is worth playing through just for that.
4ae1ab No.15498829
>>15498784
I've been playing through the OC the last few days and… yea. It's not great, especially the first damn act. It also suffers a lot from the typical "Yes"/"Yes but sarcastic"/"Yes but in an asshole way" design of choices.
d4cc15 No.15498903
>>15498784
Everyone creams themselves over the expack but forgets that the OC had the best companions.
Betrayer's only good party member was Cailin (spelling?) the angel girl, and that was only because she was bait through and through.
The bear was boring and the rest are faggots, especially the faggot.
>>15498829
Really? I always thought that the boring part lasted until you got all 4 party members together and then the banter would start.
To be fair, I always hated the beginning of Neverwinter itself where you have to do a really long string of tasks to get to the archives, but that was really it.
The rest of the game I found to be good.
67596d No.15498982
>>15491042
Recommending the nwn Demonheart module. Its even got a good story.
000000 No.15499000
>>15483050
This.
Applied to every single game in existence.
90daa8 No.15499022
>>15498903
U wot? Every party member in to OC was an insufferable cunt with the exception of Sand and Ammon. The rest of them are just annoying and won't shut up, the banter you mention is more like bickering with the only good parts being when they shit on the elf bitch.
Oh wait, the paladin's not annoying either because he's too boring to be annoying, and the golem's not annoying because he can't talk (though getting him does require you to talk to Grobnar a lot, a high price to pay).
You're kind of right about MotB, Kaelyn is good but obvious waifubait and the faggot is a faggot. The difference is that the party members in MotB all have much more depth to them than the OC party, so they make much more interesting characters.
>>15499000
Sad but true. I no longer look forward to new games from any franchise.
642f25 No.15500049
>>15489762
>darkness over daggerford
is that the one with vampires and fucking?
>>15497853
anyone got the original? i can make a better version.
345326 No.15500573
>>15498194
>Is it good?
Out of BG series, NWN1 + Expansions, and IWD series, IWD2 was by far my favorite. It's the only one I replayed back-to-back on Heart of Fury mode instead of taking a break. IWD2 has more spells to play with, less alignment restricted weapons, and personally I felt a lot more motivated to carry out my mission in the story. Also, the game does acknowledge sex, race, and class differences in dialogue. Pic related as a heads up. It also uses a better ruleset.
Just don't use Improved Initiative in your feats. It's bugged and does nothing, and as far as I know nobody has fixed it yet everyone knows about it. Which must mean they aren't able to do it.
90daa8 No.15500814
>>15500573
>Also, the game does acknowledge sex, race, and class differences in dialogue
I remember the first IWD doing this too. My lead character was a paladin and there were several times when NPCs reacted to that, and it also game me some good and virtuous dialogue options. Didn't change anything gameplay wise, but added to the roleplay experience. It was a nice touch.
d2dee3 No.15501302
Anywhere I can pick this up?
a08603 No.15501398
>>15498194
>Funny, I always thought that the worst part about the OC was the first chapter and that after that it gets a lot better.
It might just be setting. Chapter 2 & 3 are kinda the same setting. You are in a outpost in the middle of the woods and need to explore the deeper woods to get shit. It's cool because you can see all the magical shit, but something about that city really stuck with me.
15b874 No.15501478
>>15483084
Neverwinter nights online was the 1st online multiplayer rpg developed by stormfront in 1991.
a08603 No.15501582
21a46c No.15504472
>>15498903
One of Many was great. Khelgar was a bro, if on the annoying side. Although I agree with you regarding the fact that the MotB companions weren't all that great. They were decent enough, without being annoying.
f59a8e No.15504649
>>15500573
>Also, the game does acknowledge sex, race, and class differences in dialogue
have you played arcanum? NPC's react the same way to your MC.
c15f40 No.15504717
>>15483154
Chris Chan?
No. There's no way CWC would be interested in anything like this.
80daef No.15504745
>>15483092
>Qara is now supposed to be a stronk womyn
>when she clearly was the edgy asshole character that only cares about herself
Are they genuinely retarded
360241 No.15504758
>>15489762
>>15500049
Friendly reminder that almost all of the premium modules aside from Darkness over Daggerford, which was released for free because Bioware was retarded and decided to cancel it, and Kingmaker are either unfinished or shit.
I don't think Darkness over Daggerford has fucking (I didn't finish it) but it is pretty good. It has an exclusively new feature, the world map, like in NWN2 and Baldur's Gate. You travel in the area around Daggerford, a large town in the vicinity of Waterdeep, doing quests. The content is overall pretty cool and you eventually get your own stronghold, plus it adds a ton of new assets which are reused in other community custom modules such as tiles, models, music, skyboxes, etc.
c04cf5 No.15504787
i have so many fond memories of adventures on persistent servers in nwn years ago. it was the closest we ever got to a proper translation of pnp into the virtual world. it's a shame the servers these days are trash
360241 No.15504795
>>15500573
>>15500814
The paladin class is actually more about roleplaying than anything else and I'm glad IWD acknowledges that, despite being the most combat heavy of the Infinity engine RPGs. It is designed to be a roleplaying challenge for experienced players. If I recall correctly Gygax saw the murderhoboing style as a nuisance despite the fact that his mechanics rewarded it; I guess he thought being good was supposed to be its own reward and people were supposed to want to make the story interesting. Instead, the players took it as a numbers game because they were mostly wargamers and so the paladin was there to incentivize good roleplaying by being practically a demigod at level 1 relative to other classes. This was in AD&D, in the 80s. But the catch is you have to adhere to your oaths at all times or you're just an equal level fighter.
0ad2e1 No.15504804
>>15504787
Me too, it was the first online community where I actively participated, and I never found anything quite like it ever since.
c04cf5 No.15504812
>>15492503
it's a good rpg with lots of choices. other than that it has some choppy ass game play where you rubber band if you move with wasd. also the animations are totally trash and as much of a nitpick as that is it ruins nwn2 for me. the animations in nwn were great, your character dodged, blocked, parried and it was just a more immerse and entertaining experience. in nwn2 there's none of that and it really fucking sucks
360241 No.15504823
>>15504787
Yep, I am with you there. Wheel of Time is still up, I think, and that's not a bad server. I used to play on Blackstone Keep, that was a good hack-and-slash server. I think it was one of those pseudo RP servers where it's technically "enforced" but most people make a clownish effort at best and no one really gives a shit.
55a7e2 No.15504827
>>15504812
The camera was also completely terrible last I played it. Really, every part of the controls were actually.
360241 No.15504846
>>15504812
I unfortunately don't have much patience for unresponsive UI and I had even less as a child. NWN1 was a champion in that regard and the radial menu kicked ass. It was the game that got me interested in RPGs.
3c8cb7 No.15504976
>>15483050
>publishers can't ruin what's already released.
Total War: Rome II got pozzed years after the fact.
0ad2e1 No.15504993
>>15504823
Prisoners of the Mist is also still active and has an fairly active population.
345326 No.15505101
>>15504649
I have, and I enjoyed it despite it being buggy even after patches. The music is my favorite part of the whole thing, it's really phenomenal.
I have yet to replay it as Tech, but I'll do that someday.
d4cc15 No.15506649
>>15500573
All I heard about it before was that it was unfinished, but nothing more.
Thanks for the info, I'll skip improved initiative and finally finish IWD 1 and the expansion.
I really wish I hadn't multi-classed instead of dual-classing right about now.
Also, is it a continuation of the previous adventure or a brand new one?
>>15500814
I noticed this when I got to the snake cave and talked with the guy at the gate with my paladin.
Imagine my surprise when a game actually acknowledged a character's class for once.
>>15501398
My problem with it is that it takes a long while to get going.
It gets good by the time you reach the finale, it's just that the early levels are really painful for a non-fighter.
At least it lets you recruit your companions right away and every one of them has a bit of a story, with Linu probably being my favourite.
0b6042 No.15506699
>>15482978
Why bother with water elves when you have Genasi?
345326 No.15506882
>>15506649
Brand new one, but same world. It's sometime after the events of the first game, but I forget how far ahead. Inconsequential, really.
bd4205 No.15509525
>>15483447
<that erp server
There are normal servers using its architecture, a few are active, check them out from that drop down list.
https://nwn.sinfar.net/search_characters.php
2621a3 No.15512656
best DnD game ever made was
Temple of Elemental Evil with the 10 year anniversary edition patch made by the Circle of Eight.
4689ce No.15512929
>>15504758
Speaking of NWN2, I took a look at the mods for it and apparently they've remade Baldurs Gate and Icewind Dale. The BD mod includes the expansion while the ID mod doesn't which is unfortunate.
a08603 No.15515403
>>15506649
>My problem with it is that it takes a long while to get going.
>It gets good by the time you reach the finale, it's just that the early levels are really painful for a non-fighter.
>At least it lets you recruit your companions right away and every one of them has a bit of a story, with Linu probably being my favourite.
This is all true. It's not really a fault in the chapters design, but in how NWN handles low levels. Low levels in the game are shit. The chapter would have been great if it wasn't for that one crux issue.
a08603 No.15515417
>>15509525
>Look for the only server I played within the last 10 years Arelith
>It's not on the list
0ad2e1 No.15515552
>>15506649
Chapter 1 is obviously designed for you to go prison - docks - black lake - cemetery, but they let you go anywhere right at the beginning, so you can end up screwed if you insist on going the "wrong" way.
> the early levels are really painful for a non-fighter.
I always found either being a rogue or Tomi pretty much required for chapter one, there's locked doors and traps everywhere.
a08603 No.15515608
>>15515552
That's probably why Tomi is right there in the temple, while the other mercs are completely hidden. I mean, shit, I never even found them until later play throughs.
Also is the cemetery really the last? I always go there first because zombies are usually cannon fodder and it was cool as fuck
0ad2e1 No.15516196
>>15515608
Undead can really fuck you up if you're unprepared, I usually save it for last so I can hoard Bless potions beforehand.
f59a8e No.15516228
>>15515552
>there's locked doors and traps everywhere.
i liked it when you have a qt pixie familiar that did all the rogue work
NWN 2 familiars were trash.
a08603 No.15516248
>>15516228
Wizards really did invalidate rogues with that shit.
71f7d6 No.15516260
>>15491460
Orcs can rot in hell. They are a degenerate, subhuman species conjured up by the (((Elves))) to infiltrate and destroy Scro society. They are Der Untergoblensch.
d4cc15 No.15517079
>>15515552
>I always found either being a rogue or Tomi pretty much required for chapter one, there's locked doors and traps everywhere
I picked a fighter and went with Linu smashing everything to pieces.
It works fine, but the traps can be a bother.
>>15515403
My greatest issue with the game is how severely limited the number of party members is.
Honestly, it's a good game, it's just that you lack the freedom to pull all kinds of silly shit that you can in other DnD games sine you have full control and more characters to play with.
Thankfully, NWN2 fixed this.
99b915 No.15519160
>>15515417
You probably got me wrong. If you want a full list of active NWN servers, go to:
http://www.nwnlist.com/#
The link I posted refers only to Sinfar server and other, unrelated servers that use the same architecture, same haks, overrides, scripts etc. etc. They're built by different people and usually they're full roleplay in a decent setting. A few of them are currently active like EW or CWW. Links and addresses are easy to find, some people post them in character description that can be viewed by pressing the 'eye' button.
Both gameplay and visuals are vastly different from what most other servers have to offer, so it's worth trying at least.
a08603 No.15520001
>>15519160
I'm aware of that list. From what I understand that is a list of servers using Sinfar's hack to get around the NWN EE bullshit, which I will never buy unless they magically fixed every single known bug in the game which I know they haven't.
877fa6 No.15520624
>>15520001
Yeah, who needs patches for a 20 year old code-base.
Just your typical jewing by (((Beamdog))).
Stay strong anons.
Seriously, the whining in here is getting downright embarrassing. Sad.
99b915 No.15521631
>>15520001
Correct, everything is running on Diamond but you can also join if you have EE. Funny, because Beamjews said it's
<impossible
to make EE and non-EE people play together. Obviously to force everyone to buy their shit.
>>15520624
>whining
It's a good game, and all that EE does is providing slightly better toolset, so modders and server developers have to do everything themselves again while paying 20 bucks for the game again. It's atrocious to see most of the community falling for it without a word of criticism.
a08603 No.15521789
>>15521631
Just look at that dudes post. Everything about it screams bait, reddit, 4cuck, or shill. If all the red flags didn't give it away, these 2 things should have:
>Play-doh Aribeth that's not even in the game
>It's totally cool if they re-release the game at the same price it was when it came out without fixing everything that's known
55a7e2 No.15522146
>>15521789
Also the spacing.
9713dc No.15524909
>>15521631
> and all that EE does is providing slightly better toolset,
This is simply UNTRUE.
But I won´t even bother anymore trying to educate you niggers in here.
One half doesn´t even bother looking up their frikken blog where it´s all explained in detail, while the other is conspiracy theorizing about fukken SPACING.
Thankfully the peeps out there aren´t in your weird echo chamber and see the obvious benefits of an updated 64bit code, NWSync and the coming gfx updates once the tablet porting is done.
90daa8 No.15525007
>>15524909
You're trying too hard now, nobody is going to fall for it.
0b1bf4 No.15525969
>>15524909
>We might add content to Baldur’s Gate II: Enhanced Edition one day, but we don’t have any current plans for it.
>We have plans for new Premium Modules for Neverwinter Nights: Enhanced Edition, but don’t have details to share right now.
>We’re working with Ossian Studios on it, but not ready to share the results yet.
>We know a GOG build is taking a long time. If it turns out Rich Presence support requires more work, we’ll release the first build without it. We want to bring Neverwinter Nights: Enhanced Edition to GOG as soon as possible.
This is from their fucking blog, this repeats every week. After 6 months since release NOTHING was done except empty promises. I wish they fucked off already.
911e2c No.15526205
>>15488916
Were all of them as bad as Baldur's Gate?
4f8972 No.15526650
NwN3 would be pretty cool. shame no one will make it.
a08603 No.15526753
>>15524909
>see the obvious benefits of an updated 64bit code
This literally does nothing
>once the tablet porting is done.
what the fuck
>>15525969
The dudes obviously not from here. It's even more obvious in his 2nd post than it is in his first one
4c2231 No.15526774
Is the enhanced edition as cucked as BG/2?
d75f4e No.15526782
>>15483092
Been playing NWN2 again the last couple of days, loving it but i have to admit there's already a bit of pozz in the game, there are several niggers around, the big mafia boss is a woman, so is the captain of neverwinter's guard a qt tomboy, lizardniggers dindu nuffin, etc and i'm barely 6 hours in or so.
Game is still comfy as fuck though.
630c3b No.15526967
d75f4e No.15527219
e69c69 No.15527294
>>15526782
To be fair the dindus are openly presented as spiritually innocent yet borderline retarded whose problems are their own fault entirely.
Also if keep playing, the stronk womyn are actually subversions because they're both shockingly incompetent, the mob boss refuses to go legit and make loads more money because she enjoys the drama of being illegal too much to the extent she'd rather risk it all and start a gang war than contemplate giving up her fun, and the watch captain is explicitly presented as a the worst kind of "I don't care if it's the right thing to do lieutenant you will jump through the red tape damnit" lawful stupid idiot who would rather you do things by the book than actually save the city.
012152 No.15527437
>>15526967
Social Justice, feminism, and inclusiveness has been a thing that's been pushed for over a century now, you think those old children's cartoons always having some cripple kid and minority is a coincidence?
94eed1 No.15527964
i just downloaded neverwinter nights 2 and got multiplayer up and running.
it looks like the "community" has no problems installing beamdog's garbage if the features match, which they don't yet. there's some issue with the server/client side custom shit working with beamdog; it doesn't. the top server on the server list uses (and requires) beamdog's client though.
beamdog may get what they want eventually. if you want to play multiplayer you will eventually have no choice but to repurchase this cancerous beamdog and injest the poz.
94eed1 No.15527965
>>15527964
>neverwinter nights 2
i meant neverwinter nights 1
d4cc15 No.15528059
>>15527294
It's actually incredible how incompetent Breleina (the captain) is.
She'd rather have unreliable men in uniforms pretending to do their job than have a proper, yet smaller force.
Honestly, everyone is slightly retarded in the main story in some way, but I guess that's what makes it endearing.
>>15526782
Lizardniggers got chased out of their swamps and caves, so I don't think you can blame them for nigging it up when that is all they understand.
At no point do they get presented as "dindu nuddins," although you are meant to sympathise with whatever terrible things are going on in the Mere.
The game even lets you slaughter them all if you want to and doesn't get preachy about it either.
As for any "poz," I remember someone talking how DnD was basically filled with leftists since the very beginning, it's just that contemporary leftists are much worse than the ones from 30 years ago.
90daa8 No.15528267
>>15528059
>The game even lets you slaughter them all if you want to and doesn't get preachy about it either
This is true, on my current playthrought I just attacked them immediately without asking any questions and when you go back to Highcliff the elder is just like "cool, thanks for saving the villiage". Not one character had a problem with it, and in fact not killing the lizards is kind of presented as the worse option since the villagers are a bit uneasy about having to coexist with the savages.
And yeah, both the watch and the theives are incompetent, that's why the player ends up having to do everything.
f447f6 No.15528317
>>15527964
Sinfar is still on diamond, because the owner realizes what's going on and refuses to swallow this shit, but I'm afraid you're right, and sooner or later everyone's going to switch. Not much can be done about it.
80ea28 No.15528340
>>15520624
Beamdog have done nothing to actually enhance the games that you couldn't get from fan patches easier and in higher quality.
4370c2 No.15528409
Gonna start nwn1 for the first time this week. Can I make my party? I'm thinking LE mercs, twf rogue/sorc/cleric/maybe fighter archer
94eed1 No.15528489
>>15528409
no you get your main dude and 1 companion + 1 familiar and a creature you can summon with magic; so 3, but you have no direct control on their leveling or what they have equipped. atleast in vanilla, the expansions give you slightly more control I think (not on the vanilla campaign, you have to be actually playing the expansion campaign).
this is why people do multiplayer. running it solo is really mediocre. i haven't seen any servers actually running vanilla maps though. The populated servers are all persistent worlds, there's some servers that run custom campaigns but that seems less popular.
Getting NWN 1 up to a state that can actually login on multiplayer to these worlds is kind of a pain, which is why this beamdog cancer is going to spread.
To get it going into multiplayer do this
http://wiki.hgweb.org/wiki/Installation_Guide
don't do the arf thing.
1) install GoG version
2) change your CD-keys to the one GoG gives you on the site with the serial tool in the installation folder or just open the ini file.
3) Install 1.69 critical rebuild to unfuck GoG version
4) Install community expansion pack
the links are here
http://wiki.hgweb.org/wiki/Installation_Guide#Manual_Downloads
Since gamespy doesn't exist anymore obviously you can only direct connect using the info here:
http://www.nwnlist.com/
Or you can use a 3rd party launcher which unfucks the server browser to the new master server. Using the 3rd party launcher you can connect like normal on multiplayer, see the servers, etc.
http://www.neverwinternights.info/nwncx.htm
seems sketchy but it cleared virus scan and it was taken from
https://www.reddit.com/r/neverwinternights/comments/5g8yie/guide_new_players_from_gog_giveaway_how_to_host/
which is stickied on the sub.
A note: you can type in whatever when it asks you for username / password trying to connect to the internet game; password is irrelevant, but username is not. When connecting to Higher Grounds if the username does not match the CD-Key you first logged in with you'll get trolled off the server with cd-key mismatch and the only way to fix it is remember what username you entered or post on their forum and they'll get around to resetting it in a few weeks when they notice.
This isn't the character this is the prompt for username/password you get before you even get to the server list or can click the direct connect button, the one that pops up right after "Join Internet Game".
94eed1 No.15528495
>>15528489
inb4
>reddit
sometimes it's the only source of information.
94eed1 No.15528518
>>15528340
the only thing beamdog has done is inject DRM in exchange for multiplayer. you now get steam's multiplayer capability. naturally you cannot use beamdog's client with every one elses who has the non-pozzed version, so it's a hostile takeover of the multiplayer aspects of NWN. As more and more people fall for the beamdog scam you will be forced to pay a second time for the poz.
Probably the only way your going to find a server running the vanilla campaign if you want to run it with a group though. Even then I don't know what the server population looks like with beamdog poz but I imagine it isn't that fucking high. It's still an old game, and this beamdog client split the multiplayer population in half.
05eeb8 No.15530003
>>15528059
I helped slaan until he got me to the lizard chief, then i killed them all.
5c5b8a No.15532899
>>15528489
>Install 1.69 critical rebuild to unfuck GoG version
why havent gog updated it instead?