/v/ - Video Games

Nice. I'll finally get a chance to play the original Grandia. I only ever got to play the 1st disc of 2. A bit odd that it's not coming out in Japan-they didn't like the series?

A bit disappointed that it's not Legend of Dragoon instead, but pretty pleased with the endeavor nonetheless.

Didn't Grandia 2 go full retard like Star ocean 3?

>>15475265

By doing what?

I remember I mostly played it for the banter between the main character and the princessy girl. It was fun till the love triangle kicked in

>>15475265

The overall plot points are almost identical to grandia 1, the only difference is the (inferior) characters.

At first, I thought the EN voice acting was bad but I grew to like it. On the bright side, it will be easy to find voice actors better than the original EN.

Is Grandia still owned by the same jap company ? I think it's the same that made Landstalkers but I'm not sure.

>>15475441

Well, it has its charm. Way more charm than your average anime game dub of today.

>>15475265

In Grandia, there's no BIG plot twist that completely turns the game's universe upside down, at least.

>>15475448

Well, technically Game Arts still exists, but they're owned by GungHo nowadays - they're the ones publishing this release.

>>15475448

It's from the people who made Lunar and Sylpheed.

>>15475448

It's from the people who made Lunar and Sylpheed.

Posting seems to have some issues… but at least it's not just on my side.

>>15475265

Millenia is best girl but otherwise the story can get into fedora tipping territory.

Any word on a GOG release?

>>15476062

Nothing so far about GOG.

>>15476100

Grandia II will still have dual audio like the Anniversary version. It's just the first one that will lack English. (at least it seems so due to the "Japanese audio with English subs" description - GII doesn't have this specified)

I don't think the Grandia I VAs would be pricey at all…

>>15475265

Not any worse than Legend of Dragoon, as i recall.

>>15475460

>In Grandia, there's no BIG plot twist that completely turns the game's universe upside down, at least.

The moment I saw the inquisition, I fucking hoped that it was a more extreme cell of the church, and that they would go with the evil church plot twist, I fucking hoped that Zera wouldn't turn out to be evil, up until the last moment, when he steals your waifu(s) and goes to the moon. At least I didn't expect the "God is dead, long live Satan" plot twist.

Anyway, Grandia 1 and 2 are excellent games and highly recommend them, even to those who generally dislike JRPGs, at lest give them a shot.

>>15475255

If it was Legend of Dragoon, it wouldn't be on the Switch, or even be the same companies involved, being that it was Sony owned and developed. Speaking of which, I'm still not clear on why they're taking a series that was formerly for Sega and Sony systems (with Grandia II also having been PC) and exclusively putting it on Nintendo for the remaster.

>>15475448

Landstalker series was Climax Entertainment, some of whose staff went to form Matrix Software (who made Alundra I and II, Dual Hearts, Avalon Code, got stuck as Square's port bitch for half a decade, and now make the neverevers that are Omega Labyrinth).

>>15476164

Shame the PS2 port of the second was apparently abysmal. Combine with not having much reason to get a Dreamcast nor knowing anyone with one, and a toaster-tier computer, it's a game I've had to write off. And I don't have a Switch either (and fuck NoA, while I'm at it), so this doesn't necessarily help.

On that note, does anyone know if the PS2 port of Grandia II was fucked in Japan as well, or did Ubisoft or whoever they hired for the port job botch it just for us?

>>15475265

No. You must be mistaking it with a different game.

>Sega Saturn source code

nice, maybe this will actually be the definitive version.

>>15475265

No, it just has an anti religious bent like every other JRPG of the time.

>>15475255

>A bit disappointed that it's not Legend of Dragoon instead

That shitty game is owned by Soyny you stupid nigger.

>>15475448

No you stupid nigger, Climax has nothing to do with Grandia.

Christ when did this board become dumb nigger central?

>>15475460

Grandia I dub has no "charm", it's just shit.

>>15476411

Jesus spoiler that shit anon.

>>15476426

No. Burn it into your memory. It happened. And Lunar most likely won't happen again. Unless it's sent on the train to mobile hell as its fellow classic era brethren that apparently have no worth being continued on modern systems have been.

Seriously though, why did Ubisoft pick that one up to begin with? Did it review well in Japan somehow? Were they forced to due to standing GameArts relations (Grandia I in PAL, Grandia II, Lunar Legend across the entire west)? I just find it baffling.

>>15476527

>Were they forced to due to standing GameArts relations (Grandia I in PAL, Grandia II, Lunar Legend across the entire west)? I just find it baffling.

That must've been it. They probably had a contractual obligation to release Gamearts titles up to a certain point. I guess after Dragon Shit was finished, Maybe that's why GA went to Square to publish Grandia III. But that's speculation.

>>15476100

Reason enough to never pay for anything with english dubs. They are all marxists that must be killed.

>>15476577

That still doesn't make that much sense though. Between them handling Grandia I for PAL and Lunar: Dragon Song, other companies had their hands on Silpheed: The Lost Planet, Gungriffon Blaze, and Bomberman Generation, the former two being Working Designs and the latter being Majesco (Vivendi in PAL). At least Enix and subsequently Square-Enix publishing Grandia Xtreme and III worldwide makes some semblance of sense: Enix owned the rights natively to the series going back to Grandia II on the Dreamcast.

Doesn't explain why they'd pick up LDS, or why Marvelous would actually deem it worth clearing for overseas fans to suffer through enjoy.

>>15476331

>On that note, does anyone know if the PS2 port of Grandia II was fucked in Japan as well, or did Ubisoft or whoever they hired for the port job botch it just for us?

seconding this

Hopefully no censorship or hamburger localisation

Given jap voice acting only thats a good sign

>>15477241

>>15477263

The existing Grandia script is fine, there's no poz since it's from a nicer era for JRPGs. They'll reuse it for sure - the only changes in the translation were about alcohol: The pub that 'only opens at night' became a 'café' (seriously) and Jin the drunk old man became 'Java' the coffee chugger.

I'm expecting all of these will be intact:

>Touching Feena's butt in the Ghost Ship

>Peeping on those three >>15476471

>"Mermaid" boss god I hate that one, Justin is useless in the fight as he's getting enticed all the time

>Grabbing panties

>Busting the forced marriage

>Volcano ritual

>unless the prior translation is really egregiously bad (and even that may not be enough of a factor for some).

Oh boy, Capcom with BOFII. That was just silly…

They kept the original horrendous translation but took the time to replace one instance of 'damn' with 'darn'.

>>15474706

>the collection is not coming out in Japan

Welp, guess I'm just going to have go down to Nipponbashi and buy the originals then.

>>15477968

It really makes no sense - they go all out of the way to include the JP script option after all…

Or perhaps it means for this specific collection? Maybe Japan will get a swanky physical special release with goodies?

Alternately, perhaps it means that this bilingual collection won't come out there, but they're going to excise the EN language options for a future JP release

>>15475265

No thats grandia III which nobody remembers for a good reason.

>>15478008

Japan already saw the games rereleased for the PS3 out there. I think they were based on the PS1 and PS2 versions though. Part of why I'm curious as to the state of their PS2 port, as they have the entire series (minus Parallel Trippers, obviously) on their PSN while we've only had 1 and 3 on account of Grandia II PS2 being shit. Not the same as a remaster, obviously, but still. Or maybe it's a series deemed to have more of a western base, or the version they might get natively could wind up being for the PS4 instead.

>>15478027

>PS3 out there

PS3 PSN classic, I mean.

I just wish they would make the spellcasting animations skippable. Emulating G1 and fast forwarding through that shit probably saved me 15-20 hours.

>>15477938

>Oh boy, Capcom with BOFII. That was just silly…

>They kept the original horrendous translation but took the time to replace one instance of 'damn' with 'darn'.

I honestly don't get how they could have felt it was acceptable to do, outside of sheer laziness, being cheapskates, or having massive contempt for fans of a series the western branch wasn't wanting to push more. The original being a notoriously bad script and all, having a better one on the port would have made for selling point. And all that in an era when, as competition to the BoF ports, Square was actively working to revise scripts for their RPG ports to not be as shit.

will grandia 2 pc be widescreen?

>>15478048

>having massive contempt for fans of a series

gee, never would have expected that from capcom, they've always respected and appreciated their fans

>>15476471

something I really enjoyed about this game was the fact that you could see the humanity in all characters even those sluts

>>15478110

Yeah, I'm honestly not saying that would be or should be a shock, at all. More that perhaps the JP branch forced the ports on them and they really didn't want to bother with them here.

>>15476100

>TERF isn't a slur

>Trans women are women

Aren't TERFs people who think transexuals aren't real women? Do SJWs even think, or do they just regurgitate whatever they think will give them most likes?

>>15478147

I'm not familiar with the term, but maybe they are saying "you don't have any right to be offended for being called a TERF"

>>15478194

Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist, aka the boomer Femdykes.

>>15474706

>the collection is not coming out in Japan

nani?

>>15476100

What the hell is a straw ban? The idea of ableism being a bad thing is one of their most retarded ideas anyways. God forbid you judge people based on their abilities.

>>15479161

I had to google it. If I understand correctly, in commifornia it is now illegal for restaurants to provide drinking straws unless the customer asks for them specifically. The ban is supposed to reduce plastic trash by a completely insignificant amount.

>>15479174

>>15479161

Correct. The green alternative is to use paper straws which kinda defeats the fucking point. But also plastic knives and forks and spoons are unaffected by this ban, so you still have racks of shitty plastic stuff that gets into the enviroment.

And for all the plastic consumer waste in Canada and America that hits the environment? It's like 2% of the what China and India spew out on a daily basis.

>>15479174

So I guess that discriminates against against people who have broken their necks and are social enough to go to restaurants but socially awkward enough to not be able to request a straw with their order. I honestly was thinking that he'd mistyped straw man. My guess was that he had conjured up a nazi in his head to scream at, but when the nazi started calling him an impotent faggot he lost his nerve and effectively bullied himself into submission.

>>15478026

I remember Grandia 3; i totes cranked it to the card girl's younger sister, since her tits kept jiggling. Now Grandia Xtreme, THERE'S a piece of shit that keeps revisiting the same six locations rather than exploring new locations.

>>15476527

>And Lunar most likely won't happen again.

That's because the primary writer behind both Grandia and Lunar passed away years ago.

>>15478027

Nope. The rights about publishing Lunar are kinda fucked up right now. The only Lunar game on JPSN to my last sight was Eternal Blue Complete.

>>15475255

>A bit disappointed that it's not Legend of Dragoon

You have absolutely got to be kidding. Jesus Christ anon

>>15483975

It does seem to have a noticeably strong base in the west at least, despite being fairly hit or miss from what I've seen over the years. But I'm not sure if it's popular because of its actual quality, or if it was marketed to popularity back in the day. Doesn't surprise me that there's some demand for a remake (though at modern era quality, who knows if that would actually be good), though obviously this is the wrong thread to lament the absence in, being that it has nothing to do with GA or GungHo.

>>15479745

Even in Japan, huh? While I'm not big on Working Designs, I always found it a bit odd that neither PS1 Lunar had made it onto the NA PSN; it's not like GW didn't retain rights to some of their old stuff, given that Alundra, Arc the Lad series, and Vanguard Bandits made it up there (though it might be worth considering the first two are SCEJ owned in Japan). But it's odd to hear that even in Japan rerelease is apparently iffy, and having only the second game makes less sense than having neither. Did the PSP remake of the first game have a PSN version out there they might have wanted to push instead?

While on the topic, something I've never understood has been why there's been such difference in the PSN PS2 JRPG offerings between the west and Japan. Obviously PAL is fucked over (that's not unusual), but it seemed like there is very little overlap between what we got rereleased in NA and what Japan got. I don't know if it's just difference in preference, and clearly what we never had come west we wouldn't be seeing rereleased, but why did Japan see no rereleases of the PS2 SMT or Persona games? Why did they get Rogue Galaxy on the PS3 but we had to wait until the PS4? Why did they get WA5 but apparently have had no interest in a rerelease of the third? That sort of stuff. With PS1 PSN JRPG offerings, if we got a game rereleased, chances were they got it too, so it just seems like a weird disconnect.

>>15479736

Was he involved with Dragon Song? Now you've got be wondering if he was dead already, or just senile. Or if maybe Ubisoft made up that tagline about "From the original creators of Lunar" because they wanted something to catch interest.

>>15476100

Grandia 2 on Steam has dual audio. I actually played it with English dub and loved it, Diablo!

>>15479210

The straw ban has exemptions for disabled people. I think its a good law, you don't need straws to drink Burgers. Surprised this got through though. The plastics industry has a lot of lobbying power and American government is notoriously corrupt.

If I only played Grandia 3 and really enjoyed it how much more will I love playing Grandia 1 and 2?

>>15485075

My fan theory is that Skye is probably the only surviving fragment of Grasnsas.

>he is the only animal in the entire game that can speak

>we never ever see any other birds of the same species as Skye

>bird form

>acts as a guardian to Ryudo

>when Ryudo entered in his own mind to open the claws, Skye was the only one who followed him inside

>when Ryudo unlocked the claws, Skye also entered inside of him, after which Ryudo obtained the sword of Gransas to defeat Valmar

Though it's possible that it wasn't really Ske, but Ryudo's mental projection of him, probably his good side or something like that.

Of course, it's just a theory, a FAN theory

>>15485102

I haven't played 3, but from what I heard the gameplay was improved a bit in 3, but the story was non-existent/boring, while 1 & 2(played both) also had great stories.

>>15485164

Nice theory, I like how it makes sense since it explains how Mareg's prayer worked, Skye powered the ship

>>15475255

>A bit disappointed that it's not Legend of Dragoon instead

Why?

Instead of a piece of shit we got an actually good game.

>>15484434

>Even in Japan, huh? While I'm not big on Working Designs, I always found it a bit odd that neither PS1 Lunar had made it onto the NA PSN

Working Designs lost those rights either before or during the time they closed down (good riddance btw). Ireland never did the footwork to reattain said rights when he created Gaijinworks (again, to our benefit), which by then XSeed had long-since snapped up the rights to distribute Lunar. Thus you'll never see the old Working Designs localization on the English PS Network. It's all contract disputes. Ireland also hates the XSeed localization and won't do business. So again, never ever.

Japan-side, iirc it had something to do with Sony's policies about games being on the online store. Can't recall exactly. Trust that anytime you don't see a title in Sony's store, it's usually bullshit bureaucracy or it's a licensing fight taking place.

>Was he involved with Dragon Song?

My memory is weak on who in GameArts designed Dragon Shit, but I do know he died before that point. Japan Art Media were the helm runners for Dragon Shit, though GA staff did assist (to what extent I don't know because my moon isn't good enough to pick through the various JPN wikis). Ubisoft was just a publisher.

>>15486167

>Ireland also hates the XSeed localization and won't do business.

I'd heard the PSP version was hit or miss, but I guess the cancermonger wouldn't like that XSEED didn't buy up the rights to his teams "creative" writing. Do think I've heard XSEED tried to find a balance of new script with appeasing prior fans, but I can't say for sure as I haven't played any version of it myself.

>Trust that anytime you don't see a title in Sony's store, it's usually bullshit bureaucracy or it's a licensing fight taking place.

Even for shit Sony owns directly? Because they own the entire Wild Arms series in Japan, so that shouldn't be stopping them from rereleasing 3 out there.

>Japan Art Media were the helm runners for Dragon Shit, though GA staff did assist (to what extent I don't know because my moon isn't good enough to pick through the various JPN wikis)

So they technically had some prior staff, enough for Ubisoft to not be lying, just not saying if it was the whole team or not?

>>15486198

I haven't completed the PSP version, and since gaining JPSN asscess I HAVE bought the original Silver Star Harmony with intent to do both and then compare notes. Likewise with Eternal Blue, although again my moon is shit and I keep falling off the damned study wagon. Still, it's a project I chip at.

>Even for shit Sony owns directly?

Yup. Graphical asthetic, 1:1 porting issues, shift in management thoughts or philosophy decide where titles go. It's why Wild ARMs is a moba, now. And why Wild ARMs 3rd is on PS4 as a trophy-supported game instead of just a 1:1 PS2 port for the PS3. It's also why WA4 and 5 are nowhere to be seen anywhere on any iteration of the PS Network.

>So they technically had some prior staff, enough for Ubisoft to not be lying, just not saying if it was the whole team or not?

Seems to be the case. It's something I'd have to look into and that's a slow going because I'm a lazy fuck digging iinto past production records & accords.

>>15486225

I'd at least heard that with the PS3, it was a bit of a pain trying to get PS2 games working right as a PSN rerelease since they'd culled the native compatibility (and thus rereleases would need to play reasonably decently on any PS3 model), compared to how the PS4 apparently has been. I think I've heard something about XSEED having tried to port the PS2 ones over, but it proved too much of an issue. Also, 5 is on the PSN, just that it's only on the JP PS3 store as of 2014. I guess maybe SCEA figures it didn't sell well here back when it was current, and that it probably won't sell well now.

>>15486239

Ah yeah, I'd forgotten. It's there. And it's currently on sale. Yoink.

>>15485098

Do you have any idea how dirty the rims of restaurant glasses are? They are usually stored face-down after all.

>>15486296

Enjoy. Or, at the very least (WA5 still being kind of love or hate it from what I've seen; I personally liked it), enjoy the OST. It's not a Naruke composed game, but the music is still superb.