953756 No.15470559
So browsing /tg/ i was surprised to learn that the NHK recently did a show talking about how Call of Cthulhu by Chaosium has been THE king of tabletop gaming over there. DnD is seen as a shitty imitation and apparently WotCucks is super salty about it.
Its popular with women more than games and in general the age range is from 20-70. They absolutely love it.
So where the fuck da bibbeo gaems? Granted theres Bloodborne which is maybe the best Lovecraft example albeit the concept is twisted where elder thing worship is not backwoods hicks but the dominant religious institution on the downlow but beyond that i cannot think of anything from Japan thats clearly inspired by what is apparently their go to idea of tabletop RPG's.
I mean would Forbidden Siren count? to a degree, its similar in base idea and tone to The Old Hunters Fishing Hamlet story in retrospect.
Why do you think game devs over there never jumped on this as much?
0bbd9c No.15470575
953756 No.15470587
>>15470575
Son i'm not talking about your girlfriend simulators.
cc1c12 No.15470588
Those character sheets looks kawaii asfuck
9be341 No.15470594
>>15470559
>So browsing /tg/ i was surprised to learn that the NHK recently did a show talking about how Call of Cthulhu by Chaosium has been THE king of tabletop gaming over there.
Explains the references to SAN points in anime.
This isn't a Japanese game (I think), but it's inspired by Junji Ito and might still interest you:
https://panstas.itch.io/world-of-horror
298c6c No.15470605
>>15470588
They should call it Kawaii of Cthulhu. Is anyone really surprised that Japanese women love a game that features a monster with tentacles?
1130ad No.15470608
because they can't read english
e0880f No.15470676
Japs seem to love twisted horror shit for some reason. I'd be really surprised if their version of the game is the same as ours beyond the mechanics though.
I'd say it's more likely that it's as popular as it is because the rules are really easy. D&D is filled with countless stupid bullshit bonuses that you have to remember off-hand or spend time looking it up if you don't. Call of Cthulhu is just roll percentile dice. Other dude rolls his Dodge percentile dice. Did you win and he lose? Okay, you deal the damages now. No "feats," no arbitrary class-based bonuses that you have to open your class table to see. The most you'll have to do is remember that you cast a spell, and if you're casting spells at all you're probably pretty far along in the campaign. I'm a programmer so I love math, but D&D is just fucking retarded sometimes. CoC is a very effective but simple vessel for delivering an interactive narrative.
e0880f No.15470689
Also, I just found this image, so enjoy that.
cc1c12 No.15470693
>>15470559
dont they have a normal Table top about Catgirls doing cute shit?
532d84 No.15470858
>>15470689
>teburutoku
>tabletok
???
b4d0e3 No.15470884
just felt like uploading this
a777a3 No.15470887
>>15470605
I still can't believe this is drawn by a woman
532d84 No.15470901
>>15470858
Maybe it's supposed to be tabletalk.
06d579 No.15470911
Demon's Souls was also Lovecraft inspired, but to a less obvious extent like Bloodborne.
5dcaad No.15470937
>>15470559
>I mean would Forbidden Siren count?
I saw the OP and was going to come here and mention that Siren is very much a lovecraftian horror story, it just doesn't present itself as such in the beginning much like Bloodborne starting off as a more european horror setting until you progress events further.
And given the events of Siren 2
You find out that there was at least one race of ancient entities that lived on earth until the advent of light which arose from the corpse of some eldritch creature that resulted in the creation of Datatshi from Siren 1, as well as numerous other creatures of similar and alien nature. Sufficed to say, that ancient race was not happy when humans emerged from the primordial soup and took up shop on the earths surface
e0880f No.15470941
>>15470884
>Free paints and minis for starters
Only in Japan could GW stand a chance of not being Jewish.
e9ac9b No.15470962
Yes but why would anyone use anything but GURPS?
d2ba3c No.15470988
>>15470962
Why in the name of everything holy would anyone use GURPS for anything?
GURPS is a /tg/ meme in the same way Gentoo is a /g/ meme. FATAL is better.
e9ac9b No.15470998
>>15470988
I haven't played anything but GURPS in 2 or 3 years
It's hard to imagine going to something inferior.
34a410 No.15471006
>>15470676
>Japs seem to love twisted horror shit for some reason.
A shame that they rarely do it in anime though. Betterman, Evangelion and maybe Another but that was shit are the only "horror" anime I can think off. With Evangelion being a stretch.
737643 No.15471018
>>15470559
Lovecraft's works don't translate well into Japanese. Literally. A lot of the tension and surreal nature of his works don't come through, so their view of his works are very different to ours.
That's why you get Lovecraft-based anime that completely misses the point of his work.
You probably have seen Lovecraft-inspired games from Japan, you just didn't know they were Lovecraft games.
8bbf33 No.15471019
>>15470559
>not backwoods hicks but the dominant religious institution on the downlow
Not every Lovecraft cult was hidden.
34a410 No.15471037
>>15471018
>Lovecraft's works don't translate well into Japanese.
They do as long at they decide to keep with the horror theme and do not stray into other genres like action or comedy. Even if they do, it often works out well but it's just not a cosmic horror story anymore, focusing on different aspects and using Lovecraft just as a theme to make things more interesting which is fine. Westerners do that too.
ee7b6f No.15471053
>>15470887
It's her self insert.
e9ac9b No.15471079
>>15471053
So you're saying some women actually do want to dominate little boys?
737643 No.15471085
>>15471079
Yes
They're called pedophiles
d2ba3c No.15471087
>>15471079
Screw that, are female NTR doujin artists like Wamusato Haru angry and frustrated because noone of their fans has taken the hint yet?
6bc4c5 No.15471093
ee7b6f No.15471141
>>15471079
Shotacon is a common fetish in women.
7d7422 No.15471189
There's a game for the Virtual Boy called Innsmouse no Yakata(The Innsmouth Mansion), based on a Japanese television adaptation of The Shadow out of Innsmouth. H.P. Lovecraft is a shit writer, popular for his concepts and ideas rather than his skill, or lack thereof.
0a6480 No.15471190
>>15470941
Oh, I got a free Spess Mahreen my first time in the store. Like any good drug dealer Games Workshop has a “first taste is free” policy.
571ea4 No.15471213
>>15471189
Shadow Over Innsmouth, the Mountains of Madness, the Color out of Space, Pickman’s Model, the Whisperer in the Darkness, and the thing on the Doorstep are all very good.
Call of Cthulhu isn’t bad but it’s his most overrated work.
His earlier stuff is pretty terrible though and it took him a little while to find his feet. Still, the guy had some really decent stories and had a friendly, pleasant way of describing terrifying things.
34a410 No.15471256
>>15471189
He was diet-Poe when it comes to writing itself, but even then he had amazing ideas and very interesting world. So I would not call him shit.
7d7422 No.15471296
>>15471256
I think Poe was shit too.
b4d0e3 No.15471301
>>15471213
>Not mentioning Dreamquest, which is way fucking better than any Kthulu junk
f8bfe3 No.15471316
>>15470858
They apparently call them "Tabletalk" games over in Moonland, as there is a heavier focus on heavily narrative driven, oneshot games.
135c65 No.15471414
>>15471189
Nah, he's good. But he was archaic in writing style even for his time—a stylistic choice to make everything seem even stranger than it was. You can say his characters are a bit shallow at times, but his focus was on other things most of the time.
c08f81 No.15471480
>>15470559
A horror/survival game based on Hellstar Remina by Junji Ito. The ultimate goal of the game is to survive the events leading up to and including been consumed by said cosmic horror. You have to gather materials to build your own or steal a spaceworthy fallout shelter, stockpile food, potentially gather population to continue the species, etc. There is a countdown measured in months/days for you to accomplish your objectives, with the planetary population descending into anarchy and social order / infrastructure / services breaking down as the day of doom approaches. In the late game you would have to fight through violent mobs, religious zealots, desperate military, and parasitic aliens as the laws of physics and gravity become increasingly muddled.
b13a97 No.15471539
>>15470988
GURPS is really good, the only people who claim it's bad are retards who see the flexible array of books and assume you're supposed to use EVERYTHING AT ONCE because that's how their 3.5/PF trash games work.
970283 No.15471561
>>15471480
I think I played an some uncomplete doom wad which supposedly was about remina once.
The guy never finished it though.
e03004 No.15471585
>>15471141
Not common enough
f8bfe3 No.15471616
>>15471414
>>15471189
Lovecraft's writing is something you indulge in occasionally. Reading a lot of his work back to back shows the problems with his writing habits. Mainly that he was writing for pulp magazines, so he tended to write in a way that could fill up space or sometimes just lead readers on so he could get another chapter published in the next issue, and thus get another paycheck. There was probably also a lot of arm twisting from editors for him to add or exaggerate certain elements. I could see them prodding him a bit
>Hey, they really like all that slimy fishmonster stuff from your last story! Do more stories that have slimy fishmonsters!
75800c No.15471654
>>15471480
Just call Vic Viper to fuck their shit up.
404436 No.15471670
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Saw this a while ago. Dunno how far to trust his insight but it seems plausible.
9dd740 No.15471675
>>15470559
Laplace no Ma (Laplace's Demon) was a Wizardry clone that had a textbook Cthulhu setting. 1920s, Eldritch monsters, insanity meters. There's quite a few ports of it and has two sequels. SNES version is the only translated version of the game, but the only walkthrough of the game mentions the snes port was a rush job and the fact there's a lot of dummied out stuff in it does support his case. Also it's the easiest out of the all the versions. The PC versions of the game have permadeath and you get locked in the mansion until you solve a certain puzzle. SNES version has neither. The TurboGrafx version also doesn't have prema death but it has the best production values in my opinion, and still keeps the first person view like PC versions.
953756 No.15472152
>>15470884
They also have astartes gacha minis over there.
953756 No.15472155
>>15470887
You can't believe a shotacon would write self insert fiction?
953756 No.15472207
7de90c No.15472220
>>15471675
Game actually saw a revised translation patch com out a week or two back. Still just the SFC version though.
6d82b3 No.15472225
>>15470941
GW Japan used to put up all codexes as free downloads on their website.
953756 No.15472230
>>15472225
If wizards are butthurt chaosium beat them to #1 on pen and paper gw must be even more butthurt fucking wyrd beat them with malifaux.
9ad9c2 No.15472256
All we got was Bloodborne. Honestly yeah it's surprising Japan hasn't tried to do more with that sort of stuff.
a556ca No.15472257
>>15470605
>image search this
>start reading
>it gets ecchi, but they never fug
do they fug? I'll keep reading if they fug
9ad9c2 No.15472258
>>15472257
The series was a hentai before it was a manga. Go look up the doujins.
953756 No.15472262
>>15472256
Its mostly games though, theres a LOT of manga either inspired by or outright adapting it.
>>15472257
Anons thirst for a cockhungry oneesan is unparalelled.
c4cd4e No.15472270
>>15470988
>spoiler
APOLOGIZE
APOLOGIZE TO COMMON SENSE AND WHAT'S LEFT OF YOUR BRAIN
a556ca No.15472277
>>15472258
>>15472262
>Anons thirst for a cockhungry oneesan is unparalelled.
>look around the cover for an author
>furigana said iidapochi
>turns up nothing
>search it with a general search engine
>get "adult only! — [english title]"
>put title into hentai site
>Pochi.
found it. thanks lads.
953756 No.15472286
>>15472277
Turns out the elder gods are busty mature women who want shota dick. Shocking truth!
292c46 No.15472305
>D&D is seen as a shitty imitation
Yeah, that totally explains where Record of Lodoss War comes from… Oh wait.
The reason that the Japanese don't play D&D is because they look for something that they can identify with. By no surprise they don't identify with Bards, Paladins and Rangers. They don't have a concept of what that is, so they sound just as mystifying as an uncultured gaijin thinks when they hear the words "Shugenja, Ninja, Samurai and Overlord." Turns out, our cultures are very different, and by not tailoring the game to the Japanese, they had to go with something far more contemporary, so they adopted something they can identify with: modern day society. Call of Cthulhu, whether played in the modern setting (the preference of the Japanese) or the 1920s setting (the preference of actual Lovecraft fans) is something anyone can identify with.
Whereas asking the Japanese to play a "Paladin" when they've never heard of a fucking Paladin before is like asking an American to play as a Japanese Ronin without any concept of what a Ronin is other than "it's a former Samurai." People like to look at things they identify with and understand.
a556ca No.15472343
>>15472305
>asking an American to play as a Japanese Ronin without any concept of what a Ronin is other than "it's a former Samurai."
But, my nigga, americans get into all sorts of shit, even RPGs of a fictional feudal japan. the japs are just that ethnocentric.
adb92e No.15472354
>>15470559
>nu-DnD is seen as a shitty imitation and apparently WotCucks is super salty about it.
FTFY
Japs fell in love hard with DnD back in the 80s, creating such things as Record of the Lodoss war. The last DnD campaign the nips ever gave a shit about was 3rd addition which is the system they rip off for a lot of their own unique tabletops nowadays. The most famous of this Sword World RPG, which has immense popularity in Japan. Like usual, Japan really like one things about a Western games and then proceeds to do it's own thing from there.
>>15472305
You're stupid as shit, nips loved the shit out of DnD back in the 80s and they loved they are still loving the shit out of Sword World which has no Ronins or Samurai or nip memes. The nips appreciate Western fantasy settings plenty as Sword World is still immensely popular to this day.
The only reason you'll see more of the Cthulu shit is because it's a Niconico meme and thus, is going to have a shit ton of videos about it by extension.
Going even further you would have to be a literal drooling retard not to notice that Isekai, for all it's stale repetitive worth, is profitable and almost always features Nips being teleported into a Western style fantasy (or worst case Western Style setting with a sub island featuring NIpshit) with Western fantasy monsters.
Hell, it should be bloody apparent that the Nips loved DnD back in the day as the Orc meme in Japan to this day is still pig men as opposed to Warhammer snotskins. Because that's the orcs they're most familiar with from DnD and Sword World.
a556ca No.15472364
>>15472354
I'm digging that cover. Did this ever get translated like Ryuutama? Do you know what that game has that sets it apart from other systems/settings?
292c46 No.15472365
>>15472354
I'm quite well aware of Sword World you fucking dunce. The reason Lodoss War worked was because it wasn't TSR, they made their own thing.
292c46 No.15472376
>>15472364
That's not even the best cover, that's the cover for version 2.0. Bear in mind though, that while the cover looks great, the game is a bit simplistic. Like the OBRPS (aka OVA), and GURPS, it uses a simplified rolling system comprised of six-sided dice only. This in comparison to Cthulhu which uses percentile with two ten-sided dice, and Dungeons and Dragons with a twenty-sided die as the main dice.
024d34 No.15472382
>>15472365
>they made their own thing.
It's a DnD campaign, there is only some minor things that aren't usually in DnD but otherwise everything is from DnD. Whatever you think isn't from DnD goes to show you only know the filtered down secondhand information about DnD.
adb92e No.15472389
>>15472365
They literally ported Lodoss into Sword Worldfag. Lodoss is an island inside of it, so it's going to have similar rules, in addition >>15472382 is correct that Record of the Lodoss War is based off of a DnD campaign, and then the island of Lodoss was made a part of Sword World.
a556ca No.15472419
>>15472376
I managed to find this http://swordworld.wikia.com/wiki/Book_1_Translation
Looks like a fanlation, but it's worth a dive, if even to take a break from the absolute surface level normalfag tier that is DnD.
Speaking of dice mechanics, I've been wondering: are there any games that use multiple dice in a single roll/check as a means of resolution? A single die has a flat distribution, meaning when you account for bonuses, your character won't seem to display competence; you're just as likely to roll high as you are to roll low.
I'm not much into statistics, but I happen to know that 3d6 has a mean of 10.5, meaning that rolls tend to fall closer to 10-11 and that 3 and 18 are very unlikely. This means if a task has a DC of 10, then a character rolling 3d6 for it should look competent at that task, and if you get unlucky and roll under, then something went awry; your character is "having an off day" or something. Alternatively, if a task has a DC of 16 and a character rolls 3d6 for it and succeeds, they "got lucky".
Know of any RPG games that work this way? The fact that most games I've played have a flat distribution roll + a bonus means maybe they tried this and realized it's no good. What do you faggots think?
2eb1d3 No.15472431
>>15471539
It's got rules for everything except for how a GM can communicate to the players what rules he's actually going to use, what skills he's going to allow (or, rather, what hundreds of skills he's not going to allow), etc, etc.
Wait, no, it also doesn't have any rules for if you don't want the following:
There's the whole clusterfuck of everything from equipment to friends to social status(!) being counted just as immutable abilities/conditions that your characters just have (and that they've just bought with XP) rather than as anything for the GM to put even the slightest amount of effort into trying to fit into any part of the actual game beyond the character sheet.
The game tries to quantify everything in the world that relates to your character, in every way your character might interact with it, in terms of one single, static XP number. That's not a matter of what extra rules you use or don't use; that's just how the game works.
There's even a note in the official guide to GMing in GURPS that says that GMs should feel free to destroy anything at all the players have created or gained whenever it's convenient for the GM to do so as long as it's not something the players have spent XP on.
In short: Fuck that. That's not a game. Pulling GM fiat to override what the players' characters have done, what they've gained, what they've got and what they've accomplished whenever it's convenient for the GM to do so is the exact opposite of an RPG.
Sage because I'm just posting to say: fuck GURPs.
292c46 No.15472435
>>15472419
>Speaking of dice mechanics, I've been wondering: are there any games that use multiple dice in a single roll/check as a means of resolution?
All D6 RPGs do this, the Fabled Lands gamebooks use 2d6 always (it's not quite the same, of course, but if you want a simple quick RPG like experience…), the Legend of the Five Rings has the K system (2k1 means roll 2, keep 1), World of Darkness has you roll as many dice as you have points into any attribute/skill/power, etc.
There's a lot of systems that use multiple dice for resolution. You might want to check out OVA, it's a d6 system but it's really simplistic. The name is an acronym for "Open Versatile Anime" but it can easily be adapted (I've not really found a copy of the original OBRPS [Open Basic Roleplaying System]). Star Wars D6 uses six-sided dice…
It depends on how you want it to go. A lot of D6 systems like GURPs use a normalized system where instead of adding all these dice together you roll a number of successes and you need to meet a certain number of them. Genre is a big thing too, although you can always adapt something to your preferred genre, or just write your own from scratch (I did this).
953756 No.15472436
>>15472419
Whens the hard shit getting fan translations?
05bf84 No.15472456
How the fuck do you find friends willing to commit to regular roleplaying sessions and coming up with entire scenarios for you to enjoy? It's hard enough to find people to play regular vidya with.
2eb1d3 No.15472463
>>15472431
p.s. even your character's enemies are something you just take for your character as an XP bonus in GURPS, because who the fuck even needs conflict in their RPGs
292c46 No.15472464
>>15472456
You need to have:
1) Someone who is very creative, and also
2) Has read the fucking rules
Often times people of this nature gravitate toward each other, and while there are the fucks who just show up to kick in the doors and fuck the bar wenches, a lot of times the more serious people will opt to want to run their own game sooner or later. It's a lot easier to get games going online because you can find groups across the globe. It's a lot harder to get people together to play because there's always some fuck who just doesn't show up after promising he would, or someone brings their fucking girlfriend who won't stop being a distraction, etc.
953756 No.15472467
>>15472456
you con friends or ask people on /tg/ to play on some disgoy level shit with you.
05bf84 No.15472481
>>15472464
I meant online. I already ruled out having IRL /tg/friends as impossible.
292c46 No.15472487
>>15472481
Well, there's sites like roll20, crystal ball, etc. You could check the community for Tabletop Simulator on Steam, etc. As another said, you might check /tg/.
b1d238 No.15472489
>>15472481
Where do you live? Start going to your local general geekness store and ask the clerk. If not, start in chats or f-list.
It is hard, but you can find non sexually oriented plays.
292c46 No.15472510
>>15472489
>f-list.
>It is hard, but you can find non sexually oriented plays.
Why would you even go to such a site?
05bf84 No.15472518
>>15472487
I tried finding a group on /tg/ once from someone that tried to recruit a group of people that had never played tabletop games before. We got on IRC and planned shit out for hours but either we never had a DM or the intended DM bailed and that was the end of it. Other than that incident I think nobody on /tg/ (understandably) wants to deal with newfags like me.
More than suggestions for me, I wanna know how you met your tabletop groups, and if you had to make great compromises in who you accepted.
a556ca No.15472520
>>15472481
I agree with people saying to check /tg/. Without checking, I'm pretty sure there's a Game Finder thread or the like, and if not, create one and state which system you want to play, if you're looking for a GM or if you'll GM, when you'll meet up and for how long, and which shitty voip you're using.
If you like the personal touch, do the following:
>search FNM locations on the WotC website
>all local LGS
>click on their website and see if they have an events calendar
>if yes, check when they leave their tables open for free gaming/DnD/RPGs
>if no, walk in or call and ask what the RPG scene is like in their store.
be prepared for fatties, plumber's crack, and the occasional foul odor. neck beards are guaranteed.
b1d238 No.15472522
>>15472510
Dunno, it was popular in it's time.
Also there are less furries than you expect.
292c46 No.15472536
>>15472518
Well, I used to work on a mod called Naruto Naiteki Kensei and my friend used (who started the community we RP with) used to do web admin work for both NNK and Earth's Special Forces, a pair of mods for Half-Life that later became standalone Unity games. Before we RPed together we used to write short stories that we'd share back and forth, and then I expressed having trouble with getting my RPG group (which was people I used to work with) to work, so he told me about his now-defunct community. Now he plays semi-regularly, and I play in his annual Halloween themed games. Last year he ran a game based on The Thing that I almost singlehandedly won.
Networking nigga. That's it. I've thought about running my own groups, I've talked about it with friends who roleplay/used to, but I've not put anything definitive together of late.
a556ca No.15472566
>>15472518
>I wanna know how you met your tabletop groups
college
I'm still friends with some of them and they're coming to visit in my state next month, but since RPGs are such a commitment we probably won't be doing much of that. it'll probably be a few games of Commander or something. I was working on a homebrew that was suited for quick session play because of the lack of fluff and the emphasis on action. Maybe I should finish that before they get here and we could roll some goddamned dice.
>make great compromises in who you accepted
any "that guy" never stuck around. I think I eventually became that guy because the last sessions we played all conflicted with my work/sleep hours, and I'd end up dozing off.
4d4cc3 No.15472576
>>15470559
Most 80s Japanese porn games are Lovecraft inspired especially stuff on the pc98 and FM towns Marty
b1d238 No.15472577
>>15472566
Maybe it is something only happens in my city, but here we have what you could describe as Geek general stores, selling everything and focusing on nothing. There I've found some RPG whatsapp groups and met a stable group I've been playing for 3 years already. Members of that group even invited me to their weddings, so I also got new friends.
953756 No.15472606
>>15472566
You aren't that guy till you start pushing a Nechronica game and getting upset when you are labelled as that guy for it.
6497ee No.15472679
Dark Force/Falz/Profound Darkness from Phantasy Star was very loosely based on Lovecraftian horror. It's an (amalgam of a) ancient alien race which had lost a cosmic civil war and got trapped in a dimensional pocket where it was forgotten while it went mad with hatred and lust for revenge. It was first summoned by a secret religious cult who seduced Lasheic into killing the royal family and taking over the throne so they could manipulate events that would free it - causing a rift that would allow it to "awaken" every 1,000 years. It's basically a dark god at the point the games take place, and is an undulating mass of teeth and talons and eyes and hatred. And there's a nihilistic hoplessness about having a high-tech society being under threat from an alien spiritual/magical force that, despite all of their advances, their technology is powerless to contain or stop. Instead, having to rely on a hand full of people who still remember how to use magic and ritual weapons to just barely drive it back until it awakens in another 1,000 years.
Shame PSO had to fuck it all up. Episode 1 was still alright… following Rico's messages as she slipped further and further into despair and it tore at her mind - as well as Flowen's description of it. But they started to fuck it all up with the D-Cell shit and AI merging, eventually culminating into a goddamned Kaiju fight with itself. It was already fucked by the time Sakai got the reigns of the series, and it's been completely fucked and retarded ever since.
Those strange characters were found here and there. I think I have enough samples to decipher the meaning of the message on the monument. "Light makes darkness, a pair, exists, but it doesn't always exist. Reincarnation goes forever. The rule is here. It should be sealed. MUUT DITTS POUMN" … Does it make sense? I wish I had enough time to study these unknown characters…
I'm not inside the ancient spaceship. Well, it's not just a spaceship. It's a… "casket." Something or somebody was sealed in this spaceship to remain buried here. What is IT? Why was something buried in such a manner? Anyway, I know that a monster is sleeping in this cave. We've opened the forbidden door.
Dark Falz! That's the name. The god of destruction that revives in the millennial cycle. Perhaps the entity encountered a civilization thousands of years ago. They could not defeat it, but managed to seal it in this gigantic spaceship. They abandoned it somewhere far from their planet. It was this place, Ragol. We've come to a terrible place at the worst possible time…
Dark Falz is a consciousness. This entity has no body.
Don't let it come in. The dark consciousness looks for the best animal to obtain its temporal host body.
The door is already opened. We opened it. This may be the beginning of the end of the universe. We have to do something… We must do it. We have to defeat it now! Defeat it before that dark "thing" revives with the perfect body.
5dcaad No.15472690
>>15472431
I know you're full of shit and haven't read or played GURPS because in the basic set, in the section about running a game it literally has this quote highlighted.
<As the GM, you should try not to let such a conflict (good roleplaying vs realism) occur. But if it does happen tip the scales towards fun.
<If they really as for trouble, let them have it
because if the players do jump into harms way, don't just gun them down. The examples given are like how realistically, Frodo and Sam starved in Mordor. And Tarzan was eaten at the age of 6. But since realism isn't the same as roleplaying that's not what happened. Yes, if your players do something so dumb that it necessitates harming them in more permanent ways (read, something that effects their character sheet beyond HP) you should weight the options of doing so or maybe letting them off with something less "permanent" it depends entirely on whether or not it would make the roleplaying better. And on the very next page you get this choice nugget.
<When in doubt, roll and shout
which in short, is the idea that if your players do something you haven't accounted for, and you want to keep the game going, just roll a die out of sight and declare that they succeeded. So long as you dress it up correctly nobody is going to notice you just let them live through what might have been certain death.
I'm not going to say GURPS is the perfect, end-all-be-all of ttrpgs, but holy shit are the people who try and shoot it down the least qualified to comment on the problems of the system. The base rules even provide sheets and advice on how to limit the skills and advantages of a campaign. You literally have a form you can fill out to let players know what they shouldn't and should consider taking when making a character which was your first sentence.
d977ed No.15472944
>>15472690
Let's take a quick look-see in the official GURPS GMing guide I mentioned to see just how full of shit I really am.
07e007 No.15473013
>>15472944
I fail to see any problem. Highlighted text refers to Signature Gear advantage that buys you a specific piece of equipment that is very important to your character and has plot protection (i.e. if you are parted with it unwillingly, GM is obliged to give you opportunity to get it back). Why shouldn't you treat it like a part of the character?
5dcaad No.15473038
>>15472944
Admittedly I haven't read the GM guide and thought you were talking about the GM section in the basic set.
However, it's easy enough to get a copy of that book so let's check that whole page for some context shall we? it's in a section talking about wealth and status, and how some general guidelines for handling them in actual play. It also has this to say:
>[…]Letting rich PCs bankroll poorer ones has little long-term impact on the campaign. It won’t help the poorer PCs score better jobs in their downtime, get them into the right social situations for social engineering, or grant them free Status.
>It won’t insulate poorer PCs with Greed from their demons. And it won’t let poorer PCs justify any better return on Independent Income. It just means better gear – and gear that doesn’t cost points has no plot immunity at all. No points means no obligation on the GM’s part not to break, confiscate, or steal the gear – or not to have it prove cursed, faulty, radioactive, stolen, etc.
Which basically means don't allow a single rich player to give everyone the same advantage of being wealthy or having status with absolute plot immunity. Swords get broken, vehicles get damaged, and people of high status might become persons of interest in any plot. Wealth and Status are both advantages and if you aren't going to make them matter or interact with them in your game what is the point? It's the same thing about what to allow players to purchase in terms of advantages and disadvantages, once it's on the character sheet it's a part of your character do something with it. And anything acquired as a consequence of those traits is something you don't have to treat as equally "immutable" (used loosely as things can still change your character sheet in play, lost an arm once to a bad fumble with a cybernetic limb) which can make for good roleplaying as you play with those.
And if those characters want to benefit from increased wealth or status, there's your campaign hook right there. But now you combine spending XP on the advantage with roleplaying as you have to earn that status or do the jobs to get that money.
Combined with the advice on not letting reality solely dictate outcomes in the Basic Set, That's not bad advice at all.
a9016e No.15473071
>>15472606
You already fucked up the thread on /tg/ with your retardation. Don't start that here too.
3f2fba No.15473107
>>15472277
The hentai came first and there is also a manga
953756 No.15473125
>>15473071
>He's here too
you are That Guy. Fucking deal with it motherfucker.
a556ca No.15473129
>>15473125
>>15473071
Oh hell yes. Story time. What happened between you two?
953756 No.15473137
>>15473129
He says a gurololi game is "NOT that guy shit", like 3 or 4 people say "yeah, it is" and he got mad. Thats about it. Apparently he's still mad about it.
a556ca No.15473143
>>15473137
But he called you retarded. What's all that about?
>>15473071
And why are you flipping out when no one wants to play your fetish game?
953756 No.15473153
a556ca No.15473154
>>15473153
no nuts where had
1a8896 No.15473165
there was one on /hgg/ about lolis if you're really desperate
a9016e No.15473182
>>15473129
The idiot just kept repeating "that guy" over and over and killed his own thread.
737643 No.15473193
>>15473165
>/hgg/
Worse fetishes than /d/.
d2395a No.15473203
>>15473153
>>15473160
>pasting the URL
>fucking up pasting the URL
>>>/facebook/
>>>/oven/
a556ca No.15473204
>>15473182
I'll bite. what are the merits of Nechronica? I tend not to roll females because my voice just makes it cringe fuel, so I'd be even more averse to playing a loli even though I normally play females and even lolis in vidya.
But I'll give you a shot. Sell me on Nechronica.
>>15473193
>worse fetish than /d/ick mongering
The only think worse than dick is scat. I'll take things like mind break and public use over dick.
5dcaad No.15473217
Was already typing out a resonse but this will do.
>>15473129
>>15473204
There is an table top system called Nechronica that's basic premise is "undead loli's survive the post apocalypse nightmare world" You're supposed to juxtapose your characters hanging on to what little innocence or positive thoughts they can manage, against their own encroaching insanity and the body horror of being reanimated corpses, most times with mutations or weapon mods built in. The system is based around your body parts being modular and disposable, and taking checks for psychological trauma emphasizing a single combat encounter per session, and surrounding that opportunities for your characters to reduce any madness they might have incurred. Never played it myself but a guy I know has been in a session or two and has talked about it.
I don't know the full story on this site's /tg/ but I can assume what happened there happened on halfchan and other places where that game gets brought up. Nechronica has attracted some people who would be considered "that guy" material because of the system fluff. And those guys got overly fixated on enforcing you playing as a little girl even though other people might just want to play as male and/or adult undead killing machines (both of which are supported by the rules even if you couldn't just change the rules yourself). Basically ensuring that everyone treats them and the system they like as some bizarre fetish game.
c22f14 No.15473220
>>15471213
>His earlier stuff is pretty terrible though and it took him a little while to find his feet.
I remember Imprisoned with the Pharaohs being crap and others mediocre, but stuff like The Hound and The Picture in the House are fairly good
>>15471301
THIS
reading the works chronologically you can see how amazing Dream-Quest is
7f96e5 No.15473230
>>15473193
seriously what the hell is up with that
why is a board for porn games so fucked up
bd906e No.15473231
>>15472152
Call me when they have Gamichumi Marines.
I'd kill for a Force Commander modeled after Aniki.
953756 No.15473235
>>15473231
Rumours are plastic sisters are the next gacha set
bd906e No.15473240
>>15473235
>Plastic Sisters
>In Japan
I can hear the wet sounds of tentacle rape by Slaaneshi Marines all the way over the pacific.
a9016e No.15473249
>>15473204
Not even the anon from /tg/ Op was arguing with. I saw the shit show he made there and that he was a faggot, then saw he was starting the same exact shit and acting like a retard here.
Nechronica is just another Nip RPG system that's only been partially fan translated. It's been of interest to /tg/on and off for years now. You play child robots in a hellish post-apoc setting who are trying to survive while having to graft weapons and other parts to their immortal bodies to keep going.
953756 No.15473254
>>15473240
The scalper import costs will be insane.
a556ca No.15473255
>>15473217
Sounds interesting. I'd give that a session if I could play something like a middle-aged man who's clinging to the memory of a recently deceased child and wife. inb4 a GM misses the potential in this, since he would be surrounded by lolis and could use transference to explain his over-protective behaviors
Not sure how well that would go because all my (melo)drama would be delivered deadpan. I'm not about to pretend to wail and weep for anons through VoIP, especially not when I live with family.
721885 No.15473303
>>15473254
I wouldn't be concerned, they're getting restocks on what they already released. Looks like the line is doing well.
7604fe No.15473380
>>15473220
I actually haven’t read the Hound yet. I’ll have to read it when I get home.
2baf8c No.15473393
>>15472365
Holy shit you have no fucking idea how stupid the festering fecal matter coming out of your mouth is
e13b16 No.15473523
>>15472679
Sounds pretty fucking deepest lore to me, and pretty badass, but tell me this - have you ever heard of the lore behind Kirby?
>>15472944
Call me a newfag because I don't know what GURPS is, not being a fa/tg/uy, but I do know DCC is fun as hell.
>>15473203
I swear, whenever I see someone call out a newfag and at the same time spoonfeed them the fucking answer directly, I get suspicious that they're doing it on purpose to low-key tell the other glow-in-the-dark niggers lurking what's what.
>>15473220
>reading the works chronologically you can see how amazing Dream-Quest is
Most underrated piece of pop literature that I know of, by far.
953756 No.15473540
>>15473523
Woolie don't you fukkin' start.
f41287 No.15473581
>>15473523
You might know GURPS as the tabletop system that Fallout was originally going to be built on before they lost the license and had to overhaul and rename most if their mechanics
e13b16 No.15473621
>>15473540
>Woolie
If we are shitposters cut from the same cloth, so be it. Behold the power of unlocked autism.
Not really.
>>15473581
oic
899419 No.15474053
>>15471296
I will fucking punch you.
d2395a No.15474086
>>15473523
>low-key
Don't you have some Fortnite to stream, you maladjusted whorespawn?
e9ac9b No.15474091
>>15472419
Unironically GURPS does this.
e9ac9b No.15474121
>>15472944
This post basically shows you know absolutely nothing about GURPS
It's like showing that ring in dark souls that gives you max HP but claims it makes you regen HP and saying because of that dark souls is shit. The only difference being there's no error on GURPS' part here.
34ec83 No.15474124
>>15471654
>Vic Viper
*Kirby
5dcaad No.15481983
>>15475076
Probably one of the biggests losses from the narrative of Persona is the loss of Philemon and Nyarly as overt figures in the story. Nyx was cool but the other two to show up were just boring.
I miss Daddy issues. And Philemon was cool because you think he's a great guy looking out for you, only to realize you really are just pawns in his own game.
b8b23f No.15482035
>>15470559
It's chink, but Icey was pretty interesting. I don't want to get into detail how it is Lovecraft inspired because it would be quite spoily.
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If you haven't yet, I say give it a pirate and play it blind.
The only recommandations I have when you play it is to ignore the "hard mode" option, it will mostly just make enemies damage sponges and make certain parts of the game really tedious.
And that to get the true ending, you must find EVERY hidden secret the game has, and it's hard to keep track of that without the Steam achievments as a checklist. Remember that to enter doors, any doors, you have to press the "interact button", not press "up" or "down".
You can ignore the scoreboarded arena, it's DLC, and it doesn't count toward getting the true ending.
1ce5a2 No.15482774
>>15472944
Nigger, I've played with groups were characters were rolled every week since the players were suicidal dickheads and the GM was a trigger happy "let's fight 50 guys!" dude.
And then I played groups were the GM is deeply afraid of killing characters because the players carefully cultivate their character to be an actual character instead of a super-powered extension of their fantasies.
GURPS has something for everyone, good GM's talk with the players and costumize the rules to suit THAT PARTICULAR group.
The main diference between GURPS and D&D is rather simple: GURPS was written for GM's that like homebrewing stuff, D&D was written for chumps that buy the Main Campaigns.
Bother were designed to sucker as much money from you by forcing you to buy 30+ books, but at least GURPS has enough tools to let you make custom and awesome content.
Best example I can give you right now from two groups I was part of:
>GURPS group
>One player takes a crapload of XP, uses his crafting skill to build an armcannon that absorbs the MINDS of people, stores them and then shoots them out later to mind-fuck another guy
>There's rules that not only make this possible, they make it balanced
>There's rules for the GM to homebrew a campaign about breaking into a PSYCHICS LAB and further upgrade the MIND-CANNON.
>D&D
>Uh, I guess it's a glove that deals Psychic damage
>Hmm, lvl… 6? 7? Let's say 8, I got a table for damage rolls with an entry at 8.
>So that's 1d8 + WIS dmg and… it stores charges? I uh… I don't have a table for that.
>maybe work it like a ring of spellslots? Yeah, that.
>So we sum both the effects and… oh right, the psych-blast is 2d6+WIS (of the victims) and it's a conditinional ability that requires combat so… 2/3 of the gold value?
>Alright it comes at 26.000 gold, that makes it a level 14 weapon.
>So 3 months from now, when you guys are level 14, I'm gonna tweak that new expensive module I bought and replace one of the treasures with that glove, sound right?
In short: D&D is shit.
It's really not, it's great if you just want to play Kick-the-Door dungeon crawler with friends and it's easy to pick up. Takes 20 minutes to teach someone. Gurps takes 45 (including rolling a full interesting character) but after that it's also very, very simple)
1ce5a2 No.15482829
>>15482035
Saw that on steam a while ago, seemed like generic weeb trash. You sure it's Lovecraftian?
I'm downloading anyway, could use something new.
175550 No.15482939
>>15472431
>There's even a note in the official guide to GMing in GURPS that says that GMs should feel free to destroy anything at all the players have created or gained whenever it's convenient for the GM to do so as long as it's not something the players have spent XP on.
That seems entirely fair to me. The GM should think carefully about how to do that so players don't feel cheated (but their characters do), but anything that can be gained can be lost. If that's not the case, players don't feel obliged to protect their stuff, and lots of potentially interesting situations just aren't allowed to happen.
6b3de6 No.15483536
Doesn't Chrono Trigger have some cosmic horror elements?
6497ee No.15483574
>>15482829
Yeah, it drawns on Lovecraftian themes. It's also not really a game, since the game you think you're buying and playing is really just a tissue paper covering for some meta-narrative that starts to get revealed pretty much right out of the gate. Rule of thumb, and you'll pick this up early on yourself, but never do what the narrator says. Do the opposite. Try to break it. A lot of times it leads to side paths or gameovers that were crafted with more care than the game itself was.
868fe8 No.15483689
>>15471079
>Who would win? Donald Duck or Superman?
dca706 No.15483770
>>15472679
I need to play the old Phantasy Star games. Agreed with your points pso drifted away from Lovecratian. The monsters aren't scary in pso2, its just a husk with no cosmic horror. Pso1 was actually scary and Ruins was horrific to experience, it had spooky music. The monsters got scarier and stronger, trying to stop you from reaching Falz, which was a good and bad thing I guess.
Is Berserk Lovecraftian? I'd consider it cosmic horror, or at least world-scale horror.
2b2447 No.15483830
>>15470887
Why not? a hell of a lot hentai artists are woman and almost 90% of all ryona artists are woman.
1ce5a2 No.15484236
>>15483574
Well, you were right. You take a couple wrong turns and the game goes Stanley's Parabole on your ass.
I don't very much like the personality of the narrator but it also kinda hard to pinpoint his motives or what he actually wants/feels. Kinda like Stanley's too I guess, so that drawing me in.
The default keyboard controls are fucking awfull, it's forcing me to twist my fingers or fix my damn gamepad.
Also, hilariously enough, I don't know why this sort of games put such emphasys on parrying and then reward fuck-all for doing so. You can't parry during half of your moves (none of the one's you unlock, no heavy attack) so you either sit still or do light atacks, risk getting a smack on your face and for what? An attack that deals almost as much as two heavy attacks.
Looks flash atleast, I guess. Can't say I'll do much of those though.
Also, some fucked up shit with some bosses.
Thor (the hammer guy) had two diferent moves where he slams the hammer down. They were exactly the same animation wise, but one covers nearly the whole are and deals 60% of your health in damage. The other one is a lot smaller and takes like 10%.
As far as I can tell, he does the heavier one if I stand too far (to counter players hiding waiting for their shield) but I hate games that do this.
Chinks, like japs can think up of some original things, but they suck at pacing. In 5 minutes, I get "Carcossa" uttered at me, 5 minutes later were down the Yellow King and the antagonist read the Necromicon. Amazing.
e43b7a No.15490447
>>15482035
Just put out the torrent hash 79C0F1D4DCC003FBD18BC0381215F5552FCB2B78 instead of posting the whole wall of text trackers.