7d2b89 No.15452698
What are some video games that you think are very quality, but for some reason you couldn't really play through them? For me it would be the Thief games, although I think they are very good games, filled with quite thought out mechanics, great atmosphere and very good levels, I couldn't really play the game until the very finish for two main reasons, that play into one another.
First of all, the games are just simply far too fucking tense for me. I know that sounds stupid, but I feel like I'm getting a fucking heart attack while playing them this game is scarier than any horror game I played, and the guards have scared me more than I really find enjoyable. I feel that I'm too bad at stealth to play through those games properly, but improving myself enough feels more stressful than it is fun for me. Though I would probably be more likely to try to finish it if not for all the ruin-plundering, which makes the game even more overly tense for me because of the slightly confusing outlay the ruins often have and the shit-pants inducing things that are there.
What are some games that you feel about similairly /v/?
2273d0 No.15452702
New Vegas.
I blame my ADHD.
7d2b89 No.15452722
>>15452702
I will need to play that game, maybe it will be an RPG that will change my weird distaste to WRPGs. I don't even know why I don't seem to like them, they are games that seem like I would like for all they do, but at the same time I just often don't seem to be having much fun with them.
625f56 No.15452852
>First of all, the games are just simply far too fucking tense for me.
It's a reasonable issue.
There were some roguelikes I've beaten that would become so tense at times it got genuinely unpleasant.
There is nothing wrong with this technically, but sometimes it's just not worth it for a game.
You know how sometimes people seek out a comfy RPG? It's like the antithesis of that feeling.
You never get a chance to smell the flowers, and there is this sour feeling you are doing actual work.
It almost feels like a redpill on adventuring, which IRL would be a terrible way to live. The anti-LARP.
dc6022 No.15452881
>>15452702
This with most RPGs in general. I know games are "time wasters" or whatever, but I actually feel guilty and like Im wasting time with most RPGs. I also just find them way too boring. The only way I can get into it is if I really enjoy the story, lore, and characters. If my character in an RPG is just a silent husk for me to play, Im already out.
d4c41e No.15452886
There was only two turned based rpgs that I enjoyed and even that was because of a gimmick they had with the turns. Even then, one of them sorely under preformed and left me wanting a hell of a lot more than the shit dev could have ever given.
ecf0fa No.15452933
Dragon's Dogma
I know there's a good game in there somewhere, I can feel it, but the combat just feels like shit, the "climbing on monsters" is fun a couple of times but soon becomes a chore, weapon and magic skills are all over the place, the balance is fucked, the game is obviously missing a ton of content.
I just couldn't grok Dragon's Dogma.
7d2b89 No.15452942
>>15452886
>Even then, one of them sorely under preformed and left me wanting a hell of a lot more than the shit dev could have ever given.
Undertale?
4f5b56 No.15452945
The combat was too shallow and I didn't like the artstyle. Exploration and acquiring new skills was kind of fun but even after I completed my first playthrough I never quite felt like I clicked with the game.
d4c41e No.15452999
>>15452942
Hit the nail on the head
10ed2a No.15453061
Turn Based RPGs. I just can't stand pure turn based combat. As long as it has something more than just scrolling down menus (like FF tactics) then it clicks. Otherwise I feel like I'm doing some overlong statistic test on something more boring than statistics themselves.
c764a6 No.15453147
>>15452933
don't worry, it's not actually a good game and you were fooled by annie may retards hyping up their loli creator
902763 No.15453202
Souls games. I just the gameplay super fucking boring and the design bland.
53994b No.15453468
Deus Ex
I can't bother with the gameplay, regardless of the writing.
ed1792 No.15454214
4X games.
I just can't force myself to give a shit about Spreadsheet Simulators. I enjoy autistic games, so long as I can see something other than changing numbers.
ce8185 No.15454304
073666 No.15454342
The Metal Gear franchise. I don't know why, but I could just never get into them.
066830 No.15454379
f zero games that aren't the snes or gba games because i have no clue how to turn
893e7e No.15454395
Deus Ex
Dragons Dogma
Hollow Knight
Portal
Grand Strategy / Europa Universalis
Total War / Shogun
96dd17 No.15454467
spent a year trying just about every roguelike you could recommend
0bedb5 No.15454499
STALKER: love the atmosphere, love the story, love the concept… fucking HATE stat based shooting and it just doesn’t seem to click with me no matter how many times I reinstall it. I’ll get half way through it and just realize I’m not having fun at all.
Deus Ex Human Revolution: I just can’t get into it. It’s weird because I love the original Deus Ex, but HR just bored me to tears and didn’t feel as fun to play for some reason.
6d40e5 No.15454524
I absolutely hate any games that have a focus on timed missions, escort missions or water levels. Whenever I encounter these things I am damn near ready to turn the game off. I think DMC1 gave me PTSD with it's water levels
b7dd29 No.15454664
Mount and Blade. I get the appeal, I just can't find any reason or motivation to play.
4c2d62 No.15454678
Dark Souls. Just don't like the gameplay. What a shame. They look kind of cool but meh. Not cool enough to make me roll around and pretend it's fun.
4c2d62 No.15454685
>>15454499
Stalker has stat based shooting?
4ba965 No.15454690
fd709f No.15454691
>>15454685
It doesn't. He is one of those retards who heard some bullshit and keeps parroting it.
78a263 No.15454698
God Hand. I tried a couple of times but never got past the second level. Then I knuckled down and pushed on and ended up getting halfway through the game. I just can't get my head around the camera and dodging with the right analog stick. Maybe too much DMC, Metal Gear Rising, Bayo etc. has ruined me, but I cannot say that I enjoy God Hand. Despite it being pretty much one of my dream games, a crazy action game built around punching and kicking bad guys.
998059 No.15454976
>>15454304
GMDX made the gameplay really smooth but the last levels were a real pain in the ass to finish, even with medium difficulty. Fucking grays. Once you play with mantling it's hard to go back to vanilla Deus Ex though.
980a59 No.15455055
>>15453061
This
As a kid who barely understood the Heroes of Might and Magic games, I loved them.
Then I started loathing turn-based combat because it's immensely difficult to balance it (and hasn't been done properly since Heroes III)
Pretty much Heroes III is the only one I can tolerate
>>15453468
And this. It's just too slow, too wide, even if it's deep too
db4fbc No.15455061
>>15452722
If you don't like WRPGs, then give New Vegas a try, since it's an action-adventure game and doesn't have much in common with RPGs.
2da575 No.15455093
>Morrowind
Even after several hours i still couldn't get past it's shitty gameplay no matter how interesting the world started to become.
26393a No.15455134
Final Fantasy Tactics.
I've enjoyed other SRPGs but this one feels way too slow. I've tried picking it up several times and every time I put it down after the first few hours.
dfe453 No.15455198
>>15454499
>Stalker
>stat based
I agree with Dues ex: HR. Something about the way it controlled turned me way the fuck off. The upgrades didn't feel good at all either.
43a24f No.15455260
I played the entire Metal Gear Solid series back to back leading up to the release of V and was thoroughly underwhelmed with all of them. 2 especially feels more like a tech demo with a bad movie attached, despite the random stroke of brilliance with the plot twist towards the end.
dc6022 No.15455279
Demon Souls+Dark Souls
I found it to be a really bland flavorless game and I felt like I was doing a chore to finish it.
225c14 No.15455293
Nanobreaker
I dunno just something about the game didnt so it for me.
3d562d No.15455295
>Everyone talking about how great and realistic Arma is. Absolutely recommended to anyone who enjoys difficult shooters
>Try out both Arma 2 and 3
>They are both extremely clunky, doing simple things is way more complicated than it needs to be and they're barely even functional
>Absolutely no way to even play it decently unless you use your mic to talk to complete strangers larping as veterans
I am convinced that the only people who enjoy that trash have legit autism
52d461 No.15455308
>>15455295
>larping as veterans
Have you ever considered some of them might be actual veterans? Actual teamplay is only possible with adults.
dc6022 No.15455315
>>15455308
t. guy who ALMOST joined the military
885c3a No.15455368
>>15452698
I find it extremely difficult to like games that have AI that feels wonky and unnatural for the setting rather than some barrier. I hated playing Thief and Deus Ex because of this. STALKER's AI was not disappointing, but that game requires a certain amount of investment that I can't give. I've come to accept that games are time-wasters, so I try to chose ones that will enhance my life like simulators or puzzles.
000000 No.15456160
>>15452698
>this game is scarier than any horror game I played
Sounds like you didn't even get to Down in the Bonehoard, when the game starts making an actual genre shift to horror elements. Fucking tons of unkillable zombies. Stealth properly or die. In the later levels Thief has more creepy horror shit. Thief 3 probably tops out in the horror department though, courtesy of the "Robbing the Cradle" level.
Personally Half Life series never really appealed to me. I like arena shooters but the other kinds of FPS just don't really do it for me.
>>15454214
Have you played Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri? It's got a lot more going for it than the average 4X. I'd rate it as the best 4X ever.
>>15452702
Nah, Obsidian is kinda known for its combination of dull and plodding gameplay combined with good writing and quest design. I'm not a fan of most Obsidian productions for that reason. Pro tip if you ever play KotOR 2 (another game with good writing and tons of plodding, lengthy combat-heavy level segments in a game where the combat isn't that fun), get fucking Force Speed asap. You will want it just for the movement speed bonus. Later on it's also a must-have for bonus attacks (unless you are going full-blown force magician and attacking with force powers all the time, but you will want that double-speed walking anyway).
>>15455368
Thief actually has some of the best AI in the stealth genre. Guards will actually chase you properly into the shadows to find you instead of just shrugging their heads and walking off the moment you get out of sight.
c63626 No.15456204
>>15455308
>actual veterans
confirmed RP fag
b36744 No.15456215
>>15455315
Hey man, his best buddy got a papercut while filling out the form.
424c0a No.15456225
>>15455315
You're right, it's impossible for veterans to play video games.
f541e6 No.15456232
Grand Strategy games, I enjoy turn based strategy but it's more enjoyable if its in short bursts for something that is easy to pick up. Played AW days of ruin for hundreds of hours its fun as fuck but when it comes to having to figure out all the shit that's happening on your interface I just lose interest.
a8dd25 No.15456240
Pretty much any solid online game. I can't stand dealing with other people.
0bedb5 No.15456246
>>15454685
>>15454691
>>15455198
that's what somebody told me when I showed them a video of me lining up my cursor on a target and somehow missing every shot while the enemy seemed to have perfect accuracy. If it isn't stat based then I just don't get the shooting. Like I said, half way through and I just get burnt out. Getting locked down behind a tree while a group of enemies close in on me while I'm not guaranteed a shot even when I have them in the crosshairs just isn't fun. I genuinely don't get how people git gud at the shooting in that game.
b87eba No.15456247
Project Zero. I just don't like the combat. I don't like fighting enemies who can cheat by turning invisible and teleporting behind me. It's annoying. But I also really respect the games because they're genuinely creepy.
b0bcb6 No.15456248
>>15454524
>Timed Missions
How about the entire fucking game being timed? Fuck you Fallout 1
dae386 No.15456252
>>15452698
>Bioshock 1.
I hated it but apparently retard /v/irgins love it.
>Serious Sam.
Got boring for me after a while since the ambushes and shit become predictable but still require you to go around very carefully checking everything. I can tell it's good, it's just not for me.
>Dungeon Keeper
Didn't do it for me, dunno. I'm not faulting the game for it.
>Dead or Alive 5
Can't get into the 3D movement fighting games.
>LA Noire
The investigation parts are fun but the shooting isn't.
>Odallus
Got bored with it. Didn't like the core mechanics too much, but I had some fun with it.
f541e6 No.15456254
>>15455134
I couldn't enjoy FFT at all either and it was just because of how ugly it looked to me. I tried the ds & the psp versions but just couldn't do it. Tactics ogre on the other hand I've put in at least 200 hours and still could double that no problem. Gorgeous looking maps as well.
424c0a No.15456287
>>15456246
There's no RPG system in STALKER. Your accuracy is determined by your gun, aiming and stance. The starting guns are bad, scopes make it much easier to land shots, and aiming for the head is very important.
f69ad2 No.15456291
>Fire Emblem
Way too reliant on RNG. I've played almost every game in the series by now except the DS ones but I hate all of them except for Sacred Stones. There are simply too many enemies, the enemies are too strong (because the game expects you to know that you must use the arena to grind or else you will surely lose) and it seems like the only way to get gud is by buying the strategy guide that holds all the information the game decides to withhold from you.
>Etrian Odyssey
Too grindy. Couldn't sit through this garbage any longer than the first few floors of a stratum. You grind so you can beat the floor's resident FOE in order to continue but then by the time you get to the next floor you're underpowered again and must grind. Nevermind the fact that you almost forced to either use the one winning strategic team lineup or you lose, plain and simple.
>Bravely Default
Same problem. Expects you to grind and then beat a hard boss and then you're underleveled again. Buy the strategy guide to get gud, goyim!
>Xenoblade Chronicles 2
I hate this shitty game so much but the only reason I am playing it is for the girls. The combat is so fucking boring that - and I am not even kidding - I've fallen asleep 'playing' that 'game' more than twice now. The worlds are 'large' yet empty, and even when you're overleveled, combat takes much too long against even weak enemies. Also has a similar problem of the difficulty curve rises exponentially for each boss. The grunts are easy as fuck but then you get to the boss who is dramatically tougher, requiring you to grind even more to stand a chance.
0bedb5 No.15456302
>>15456287
I see, but still, by the time I get a gun with a scope it still just doesn't have the accuracy, yet an enemy with the same gun seems to have no problem killing me in 3 or 4 shots.
I just don't think it's the type of game for me sadly. I don't get much fun from having to creep along, hiding, and peekshotting everything. At it's worst I'll take on an entire group of bandits behind one tree trying to headshot all of them and trying to change cover means almost certain death. I have to wonder if I don't play it right.
45dc35 No.15456320
Morrowind.
I have played and beaten every TES game, with the exception of Morrowind.
I got decently far in the game, but I felt like I was forcing myself to play it. I didn't enjoy it the way I enjoyed the way I enjoyed the games before it and I didn't enjoy it the way I enjoyed Oblivion.
5722c2 No.15456322
>>15456291
why did you keep going back to jrpgs
8e7ef4 No.15456324
>>15456248
don't be retard, it's such a soft timer that it doesn't count
5722c2 No.15456327
>>15452698
I quit playing thief when I realized the comfy medieval aesthetic was over and it was just going to be a grind through zombie levels and other shit.
8e7ef4 No.15456342
>og xcom
played the new one's first but find the older one's tedious (moving each soldier)
>sm galaxy
movement just isn't as good as sm64
16d3d2 No.15456351
b0bcb6 No.15456381
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>>15456324
Back then when I played it, a lot of cities were already overrun with mutants with everybody dead by the time I got to them. It probably was because the passing of days on the world map was tied to my CPU, and I didn't apply any patch or fix to the game. I should give the game another go, as I love Fallout 2, and I absolutely loved The Glow's atmosphere back when I played the first game.
8e7ef4 No.15456430
>>15456381
sorry
aye you definitely should, i've yet to get into fo2 funnily enough, intro is so tedious but i know it's probably a great game
b0bcb6 No.15456496
>>15456430
It's fucking great. Just remember to get the latest patches for glitch removal. If you want to keep playing after beating the game, there's a lot of mods which restore cut content, add crazy stuff and even total conversions for the game. Go have fun.
8c0b45 No.15456545
>>15452702
New Vegas really isn't a good game. The only reason people like it is because it brought factions back.
424c0a No.15456571
>>15456545
>The only reason people like it is because it brought factions back.
Citation needed.
8c0b45 No.15456594
>>15456291
> (because the game expects you to know that you must use the arena to grind or else you will surely lose)
d39f87 No.15456658
>>15456320
Staring at shades of brown just isn't fun tbh.
3e1adc No.15456910
Dragon's Dogma because of what >>15452933 said, and STALKER because I don't like how enemies don't even flinch when you shoot them, it makes the guns feel like peashooters. Also because it's open world and that means lots of pointless walking and backtracking through empty space, which I hate.
000000 No.15459553
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>>15456240
That's pretty common. There's nothing like online teamwork to make you learn how to hate people.
>>15456545
No it had good writing and a better approach to resolving quest too. Vid related, defeating the final boss through multiple Speech skillchecks.
Still, NV has its share of issues too, a solid number of them inherited from Bethesda's Fallout 3 engine.
180ca6 No.15460186
>>15456545
New Vegas was an amazing setting and story set in a shitty engine and terrible publisher.
a51a92 No.15460272
>>15459553
New Vegas (with tons o mods) is fucking great. What other game lets you take out dumbass fashies, dumbass liberals, then unplug a filthy capitalist and laugh in his face while he dies? Then Dave Foley helps you build a united wasteland for the workin' man. Wonderful.
660b93 No.15460349
>>15452698
Deus Ex and Thief series
Souls series
DMC series
Ultima series
Legacy of Kain series
Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask
Planescape: Torment
Morrowind (mostly for same reason as >>15456658)
Gran Turismo series (I like racing sims but I find GT so slow that it's unrealistic. I only enjoy GT1 because I find it faster and more dynamic than later iterations)
System Shock 1 (controls and interface are too clunky and awkward, making it a chore to play. I tried the new source port and these issues are still there. Couldn't get really used to it even after playing for few hours)
Strategy games in general, be them RTS, grid-based SRPGs, empire/country management games, etc. Just not my thing. The only ones I came close to "getting into" were Warcraft 2, Age of Empires 1, Total Annihilation, Herzog Zwei, Shining Force 1 and 2, Jeanne D'arc (PSP) and Phantom Brave (PS2), but in the end they still missed something to ultimately draw me in.
Also, I don't think Dragon's Dogma, Hollow Knight and LA Noire fit the theme of OP since they're not good, they're overhyped garbage.
e880f4 No.15460377
>>15456320
I had a hard time gettin into morrowind. But I think morrowind is one of them games that start off poorly, but gets a lot more fun the more you get into it. Took me like 3 or 4 attempts to really get into it.
f01f31 No.15460447
Dragon's Dogma just makes me angry. I love the combat, the different abilities, and the kinda-Berserk aesthetics, but even when you're loaded with Portcrystals the game wastes SO MUCH FUCKING TIME. I've heard Bitterblack Isle was the best part of the game but I really can't be arsed to play through the whole game again.
629783 No.15460454
Any Paradox GSG. Tutorials are never good and you are just left to work so much shit out for yourself or look things up before you even get to play the game. Once you "get" a new mechanic, there's something else behind that mechanic that doesn't let you do the thing you wanted to do. I want something larger and more in depth than Total War, but not something where I spend more time reading about what to do than playing.
16805c No.15460455
If you didnt like it how can you say it was good? Because other people say it's good? Can't think for yourself?
01f9f7 No.15460511
>>15452698
>the games are just simply far too fucking tense for me
I love thief and I agree with you 100%, some of the levels can be overwhelming on top of that but once you get into the mind set its what makes the games great.
5263f2 No.15460558
>>15460511
>tfw playing the cathedral-levels in a dark room at night with headphones
I was about to shit myself at one point. Thief is just fucked up at certain times. Still can't bring myself to play Deadly Shadows because of that, because i know what's waiting.
3c2968 No.15460608
>Dwarf Fortress
I love playing autistic games, but any time I open this one up, I see the UI and immediately lose any desire to continue. One time, I managed to force myself to get a small fort up and running, but then still quit, as every moment of using the UI was torture to me.
900ae9 No.15460619
The EO games, the initial slog is a hurdle, but once I get into my groove I enjoy them;
Sadly, all of the EO games I've gotten far in (EOI and EO-4) I've lost my save files for, and don't feel like re-treading.
759f32 No.15460622
Trails in the sky.
I finished the first game, but god damn if JRPGS don't have massive pacing issues.
f1a115 No.15460718
I think some people don't understand this thread. If you think a game is "trash", then it doesn't fit here.
As for me, I'm gonna have to mention Thief 1 too. Yes, the "zombies and magic" reason. Morrowind too, kind of. Though it has a lot of great things about it - the skills are just too unbalanced. You almost can't play thief classes. Sneaking and pickpocket just suck. Lockpicking is outclassed by "open chest scroll". And to clear the first dungeon of the main quest (the one with the centurions), you have to get your hands dirty. Can't sneak past them, so it forces your thief into being a warrior anyway - not good for roleplaying…
05d5ca No.15460806
The multiplayer sucked, was full of exploits, and took forever to find a match. I’ll never understand why people treat this game as some type of sacred idol of splinter cell.
660b93 No.15460923
>>15460718
Some just don't get it, and then there are also idiots like >>15460455 who believe that if you can't get into a game, you must yell that it's trash otherwise you're a sheep who can't think for yourself - even though we know it's actually the opposite. Since the first iterations of /v/ on cuckchan ever came into existance like a decade ago or more, this argument always comes up whenever someone says something similar to "it's good but it's not for me". Some faggot always has to show up trying to start a silly shit-flinging fest.
ca0f25 No.15460938
Deus Ex is really not that special. It just mishmashed a bunch of conspiracy theories together and packed it with clunky gameplay.
a6bb3a No.15460948
>>15452698
There are a shitload. Most RPGs, these days. I tend to binge games for a while and then get bored and go to something else. Made it to the 2nd act of Divinity: OS 2, then never touched it again. Morrowind, made it halfway and then never got back to it - and that was the furthest on probably a half dozen attempts. New Vegas, figured I'd do a bunch of the DLC before wrapping up main quest, then ended up never going back to it.
And then there are games where I just don't have the autism anymore. I spent years in high school playing Dorf Fort and can still read the default ANSI tileset, but I can't touch that game anymore.
Last game I actually sunk my teeth into for a long period of time was Kenshi. Last game I actually completed was DX:MD.
Webm unrelated.
>>15456910
>STALKER because I don't like how enemies don't even flinch when you shoot them, it makes the guns feel like peashooters
Did you get past Garbage in stalker? Enemies will flinch on heavy damage, but you should be going for headshots anyway.
Honestly, just install the Autumn Aurora mod. Damage and balance is nicely fine-tuned, it's challenging, it looks amazing, and it doesn't go TOO far from vanilla. Mostly new guns added, as well as the basic shit every mod has like repair kits. It's fairly polished, and I had a ton of fun with it.
>>15456302
>At it's worst I'll take on an entire group of bandits behind one tree trying to headshot all of them
That's what grenades are for. S.T.A.L.K.E.R. simply requires tactics. Flank, sprint between cover, position yourself well.
1bd802 No.15460949
Understanding that something is a quality product but "not for you" is what distinguishes us from the normalfag hordes. Never forget that.
For me, it'd be the original Fallout games. I enjoy the openness and freedom of choice, but I just can't bring myself to play turn based RPG's. I guess I'm too much of an ADHD spaz to appreciate it.
6af326 No.15460990
>>15460806
No idea how matchmaking worked on consoles, but PC had server browser and I never had trouble finding randoms up until they shut down the servers. As for exploits, I rarely ever met anyone using those unless we all agreed to just fuck around. People enjoyed the game too much to kill the fun during a match. It had so many intricate mechanics, like listening in on the other team's mics or headshotting mercs to disable their huds temporarily.
Besides, what people usually praise is the singleplay, and as far as that goes, it's as good as it can get. It takes all the mechanics of Thief (light, sound and quick deaths when spotted) and puts them in a modern spy thriller setting with similarly cocky protagonist. What's not to love.
dc1a7e No.15461038
Valkyria Chronicles. Its a mediocre turn-based strategy game that doesn't have good gameplay. The story was ok, but everything else sucked. The only reason I beat the damn game was just to see what happens at the end. I don't get why people would play it again or give it a sequel then another one and then another one. I get that a lot of people like because of the fan service or waifus or whatever, but if that's all then its just a precursor to fucking Overwatch and how people only like it because of the porn made from it.
Another game I don't get is the Rance games. Yeah, I know its porn with gameplay, but the porn sucks and the game parts were annoying, grindy and meticulous. Yet people hold them up like they're the pinnicals of gaming.
46b47e No.15461043
✓Theif
First Person stealth games suck
✓New Vegas
✓Oblivion
'✓Daggerfall
First person RPGs always suck
✓Deus Ex
First Person Stealth RPGs suck
✓Ultima 7
No autistic enough
✓Planescape Torment
love Baldur's gate and Icewind Dale, but could never get into Planescape
30551d No.15461063
>>15461043
>having a problem with first person stealth
Being able to magically look round corners without the risk of being seen yourself is cheating.
000000 No.15461132
>>15460948
Do they actually think that shit makes them look endearing? Bad mouthing someone behind their back and then lecturing them like a child all the while having a smug sense of superiority?
>inb4 "the right does the same stuff."
Maybe, but the right is not trying to play the good guy.
6af326 No.15461169
Oldschool JRPGs in general. Other than the cringy animu shit, it's the combat that really keeps me from enjoying those. I very much like the Mario&Luigi RPG series because the combat actually requires some non-spreadsheet skill and allows you to avoid taking damage. Same with grid-based combat, it requires some strategic thinking which is a general skill, not one specific to a single game. Classic JRPGs piss me of because being "good" at one means memorizing loads of useless information and crunching numbers, as in the least fun parts of any other game, and any "skill" you have at one game doesn't translate to others. And your immediate reward in combat are more numbers appearing above the enemies, or sometimes a completely non-interactive animation.
Also, my pet peeve in games in general is not being able to avoid or mitigate taking damage, and JRPGs are basically built around that.
46b47e No.15461175
>>15461063
>never played a Metal Gear
the only people who seem to like first person stealth and first person RPG's are hispter faggots like Razorfist and Totalbiscuit.
d50bc0 No.15461222
>>15454698
We're like Mike and Ike, anon. We think alike.
c045bc No.15461236
>>15461175
>X like thing
>See? That must mean you must be X!
607873 No.15461238
>>15461222
Man i only now realized that god hand's cover is actually a gag on video game clipping glitch when you punch.
46b47e No.15461272
>>15461236
>only Y's likes X
>you like X
>theirfore you are Y
sound and valid logic kiddo
6af326 No.15461275
>>15461175
>Metal Gear
>Stealth
Dude, at least mention Splinter Cell when talking about good 3rd person stealth games.
I suppose this one fits into the thread.
I will never understand the love for Metal Gear (other than the story). Gameplay-wise, MG has to me always been a glorified version of that one Ocarina of Time minigame. Cover-based stealth is the most boring kind, made even more boring by every third person shooter out there using it in the last decade. It's more of a puzzle game than anything else.
Unlike the light/sound-based stealth, cover-based kind makes you feel weak and vulnerable, running and hiding from the enemies' sight. In Splinter Cell and Thief you feel empowered, you're the hunter, you feel as though you are the one in control, being able to spook guards and create more darkness, forging new paths via ropes, jumps etc. What does Metal Gear use? Hiding behind cover in an almost 2D environment? Walking in a box and dropping cardboard cutouts like in a Loony Tunes cartoon? It doesn't make me feel powerful, it makes me feel like my enemies are just dumb AI programmed to fall for stupid stuff the programmers put in to give me "more stealth options".
30551d No.15461369
>>15455055
Is Heroes III balanced? From what I gather it's practically a meme to joke about how weak Inferno is and I've heard people argue Fortress is even worse.
660b93 No.15461400
>>15460806
Splinter Cell, especially classic Splinter Cell games, were all about the single player campaign. The multiplayer was just a bonus at most.
ea1596 No.15461419
>>15456381
Fallout 1 still holds up today, but yeah if you don't play it patched, you're gonna have a bad time.
46b47e No.15461449
>>15461275
>least mention Splinter Cell
never played it.
288a9d No.15468909
>>15460455
>Implying that quality is the same as your enjoyment taken from the game.
Nigger even though I might not like a certain genre of writing, or a particular book I can still commend it for well written characters. good story and masterful writing even if I didn't like reading it personally.
288a9d No.15468943
>>15461169
> Classic JRPGs piss me of because being "good" at one means memorizing loads of useless information and crunching numbers
That's a large part of many, if not all strategy games as well though. You need to know your units and do some usually minor number crunching to understand what will be the most efficient way of aquiring victory.
>Also, my pet peeve in games in general is not being able to avoid or mitigate taking damage, and JRPGs are basically built around that.
In those games you need to stop thinking about damage being punishment for making a mistake and instead think of it as something akin to a soft timer on your actions, that you can influence with you skills, equipment and so on and so forth. The battles are basically puzzles that you need to solve, and the solution is the most efficient way of destroying the enemy, you need to solve that puzzle before your resources run out and the more of them you save the better you are.
6d98bc No.15468947
Bayonetta, despite liking many other action games. Gave it a few hours and was still bored with the combat, QTEs, cutscenes, etc at the end of it. Wasn't for me.
7bc58b No.15468992
Persona series
and
Armored Core
ef813d No.15469034
>ITT /v/ admits to being filthy casuals
Fucking hell, this thread is painful to read, all of you disgust me.
a0dc3e No.15469122
>>15456320
Stop trying to Zoom through it and read the fucking tooltips holy shit.