54c5db No.15444717
So, are these pieces of overrated mediocrity the equivalent of Oscar bait flicks?
Do you have any more examples?
43eaae No.15444729
What you posted are the equivalent to summer blockbusters. This is oscar bait.
54c5db No.15444736
>>15444729
>What you posted are the equivalent to summer blockbusters
I'd say summer blockbusters are more akin to Call of Duty, Battlefield, Destiny, FarCry and Asscreed.
b40944 No.15444737
>>15444717
the nu-raider games as well
>>15444729
goon detected
56b805 No.15444739
TLoU is oscar bait, the rest is as >>15444729 said even though hes a faggot lumping in Nier Autobutta with the tripple ayy trash.
af7177 No.15444740
91810a No.15444750
>Breath of the Wild
>Oscar bait
<Not just Nintendo's misguided attempt at recreating a classic interpretation of Zelda but in the modern age
The rest of those are oscar bait, yeah.
351b64 No.15444753
>>15444750
>recreating a classic interpretation of Zelda but in the modern age
>with less dungeons than the first zelda game
91810a No.15444755
>>15444753
>conveniently misses the "misguided attempt" portion of the sentence
<this much lack of reading comprehension
351b64 No.15444757
>>15444755
Misguided doesn't mean complete failure.
4650ea No.15444760
>>15444717
Why Oscar "bait"? Even shit that actually gets an Oscar is terrible nine times out of ten
91810a No.15444761
>>15444757
Popularity doesn't mean quality, either. What's your point?
56b805 No.15444767
>>15444760
The point of oscar bait is trying really, really hard to get as many nominations as possible. Doesnt mean the movie has to actually be good.
4650ea No.15444777
>>15444767
Makes sense, seeing as how good movies usually don't get nominated.
2cade4 No.15444782
>>15444717
Only one of them isn't a dad simulator I'm not sure about UC4. Also, it isn't really oscar bait.
>>15444760
The point of oscar bait is the "Made for Critics" kind of deal.
>>15444750
People don't understand what words mean.
1db5a0 No.15444785
>>15444717
But those aren't holocaust videogames at all, OP
e524ab No.15444795
>>15444717
BoTW isn't really oscar bait because what defines an oscar bait game are 3 main characteristics; muh feels, muh "depth" and muh cinematic experience. BoTW doesn't really have any of that, what happened to it is the same cycle that happens every 5 or so years when a new Zelda game is released, it gets almost perfect scores everywhere and it's nominated for GoTY regardless of actual quality, mainly because its fanbase is one of the most autistic and vocals in this industry and had been for quite a while. It's funny because out of the 18+ games in the series only 5 are actually good and maybe 2 can be considered masterpieces.
91810a No.15444799
>>15444777 (nice digits)
>>15444782
The term "Oscar bait" is a bit of a misnomer, given that there really isn't an video game equivalent of the Oscars, unless you want to count The Game Awards with Geoff Keighley, which is laughable. Even then, can it be said that there has ever existed a game that was produced for the sole purpose of acquiring a Game Award nomination?
485fd9 No.15444802
b40944 No.15444806
>>15444799
considering the reception of the games at the game awards, it's tga bait i guess
4650ea No.15444808
>>15444799
>Even then, can it be said that there has ever existed a game that was produced for the sole purpose of acquiring a Game Award nomination?
Depression Quest
e90cdf No.15444811
I liked all of the Bioshocks except for 2, it did have a good DLC though.
2cade4 No.15444833
>>15444795
>>15444799
The video game equivalent of Oscar bait has… yes
>muh feels, muh "depth" and muh cinematic experience
but there are also other aspects:
short playtime (to make reviews), is very easy but doesn't look easy (almost flat difficulty curve), and "mature" storytelling.
50a863 No.15444850
e34662 No.15444858
Depends what you mean by "Oscar bait".
If you mean pretentious shit that tries specifically to get good reviews by having deep, revealing stories and being sentimental to a fault while suffering in every other aspect, then that only really applies to Bioshock and The Last of Us. I know Uncharted 4 tried some stupid things, but I don't think it went for a deep, pretentious story. It's more like those shitty action sequels made with an aging actor who doesn't want to do it anymore, and it's got that same sense of dull tiredness.
If you mean games that are specifically trying to appeal to reviewers rather than an actual playerbase, that works for all of them except probably Zelda.
Zelda is really out of place in that image. Whether it's good or not is up for debate, but it's just a kind of bland open world game that does some things well and some things badly. It doesn't really fit into the "pretentious deep story" game clade, because the story is nearly the same story that Zelda has always had to a fault. Regardless of how it fucks up, at least it's still trying to be a fun game rather than deliver some mind-blowing story.
60f391 No.15444872
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63abb3 No.15444885
>>15444858
Not to mention the other 4 are have a huge cutscene to actually play the game ratio. While Botw only had a handful when compared to its runtime.
2cade4 No.15444909
>>15444885
>Not to mention the other 4 are have a huge cutscene to actually play the game ratio.
There is also the technically not cutscene like in Bioshock 1 which you can move the camera and you can't skip.
63abb3 No.15444930
>>15444909
Those walky talkies "you can still move but please watch this animation" might as well be cutscenes. Especially if you lose all other functionally.
d5a0a1 No.15444944
>botw
>being oscar bait at all
>putting it alongside interactive movies
kys. Fucking tired of this forced botw bashing on this board.
548a8e No.15444949
>>15444944
Whine more, faggot. It's a slightly more polished Skyrim and nothing more.
d5a0a1 No.15444957
>>15444949
Suck my dick. It doesn't belong on that list at all, regardless of what you think of it.
2cade4 No.15444958
>>15444930
Ken Levine said that he hates the use of cutscenes so his repose is to put barely interactive scripted scenes that you can't skip. In MGS5, you can actually skip it.
>>15444949
>It's a slightly more polished Skyrim and nothing more.
I don't believe you. There are too many Bethesda apologist in this board.
e34662 No.15445039
>>15444949
In what way? You really need to justify that kind of claim. I've got my share of complaints about BotW, but it doesn't seem anything like any of the Elder Scrolls games in the least, other than falling under an open world label.
321ac4 No.15445109
>>15444729
>>15444729
>>15444737
>>15444739
>>15444802
>>15444935
>all these triggered Niercucks
You're the successor to Soulscucks on how you can't put a leash on your autism and self indulgence for your hardcore game for hardcore gamers such as yourselves.
548a8e No.15445131
>>15445039
That's exactly it's downfall - the content, what little there is of it, is spread apart by mindless ten minute drudges through empty fields. The dungeons are uninspired, the world itself is uninspired, and there's no fun in exploration - exactly like Skyrim. The slight polish comes from small touches like the Weather system, and some of the neat intricacies of how you can approach enemies. But combat is fucking trivial after ten hours or so.
Zelda's been shit since Ocarina of Time, and even LttP was just barely average, getting away with it since it was one of the earlier ones.
1ef713 No.15445242
>>15444717
>posting all these story heavy games
>including BOTW
Maybe I don't get what Oscar bait is, but I don't think BOTW had enough of a story to qualify
d4ebd1 No.15445269
>>15445242
more of a Cannes film amirite?
4b6578 No.15445283
Maybe you should actually define your terms first? I think what you are going for is: A game made not for the general audience, but specifically tailor made for the 'academy' so they can jerk off to it while everyone else wonders, "what the fuck? Where's the tits and explosions?"
769ac6 No.15445292
>>15445283
So the Dear Esther style of shit not walking simulators, but the stupid poetry themes things
4b6578 No.15445303
a2f48b No.15445321
>>15445283
The "video games are art" crowd of hipsters and tumblr types.
351b64 No.15445347
>>15445283
>Maybe you should actually define your terms first
How retarded are you to not be familiar with oscar bait?
034eb8 No.15445380
I hate botw, it's such shit.
Lmso niggers amirite fellow virginias?
b99cee No.15445383
>>15444736
Call of Duty yes, but battlefield? Nah. Their campaigns are just straight up bad.
0dbf46 No.15445406
>>15444717
I can see the rest of those being the game equivalent of oscar bait, but how is BoTW oscar bait? I haven't played it but I thought it was just an open world Zelda game.
909d5b No.15445423
>>15444799
Journigger bait
>>15444717
Meta shit like Undertale, Spec Ops: The Line
769ac6 No.15445456
>>15445423
>Spec Ops: The Line
Oh, that one DEFINITELY qualifies as Oscarbait. The way journos and ecelebs held up that mediocre sludge was disgusting.
e34662 No.15445521
>>15445131
So they're both empty and boring open-world games. That doesn't make BotW a "more polished Skyrim", that just means they're both poor examples in the same genre. I'm not saying BotW is good, but it's really nothing like Skyrim at all, other than being the same genre. They have as much in common with each other as they both have with every other open world game.
e0e79f No.15445526
I find the term to be a little confusing. It could either be interpreted as "E3/awards show Bait," games that look great at E3 and ceremonies but actually suck, or games which appeal to the "critics" which in our case are hipsters and SJWs. TLoU and nuGoW fill both criteria very well so I think everyone can agree they're Oscar bait equivalent.
Other games I can think of include Aliens Colonial Marines, Sea of Thieves, and Gone Home was the very definition of the term since it won a fuckload of awards while having nothing of substance.
05ba6a No.15445535
To my knowledge BotW was just an attempt to emulate Skyrim. The others are linear (not that there is anything inherently wrong with a game being linear) "cinematic" affairs with reduced focus on gameplay. Most of them also shackle you to someone else's kid. BotW definitely doesn't fit in with the others.
a7688f No.15445637
>>15444782
That's way too high for Dear white people.
ca6459 No.15445643
Dear Ester and that gone home thing are oscar bait.
909d5b No.15445645
>>15444782
>>15445637
What "Dear White People" is anyway? Never heard of it.
687f7e No.15445660
>>15444717
Every recent David Cage cinematic experience.
Life is Strange. One of the writers got angry at Brote for making fun or their shitty script.
>>15445292
>Dear Esther
The devs got triggered when people used the term "walking simulator" when talking about their game.
4b6578 No.15445665
>>15445645
>ooga booga
>white boi da debil
>gibs us dat
b4199a No.15445669
>>15444782
>I'm not sure about UC4.
it's total journalist bait, there's lengthy fucking sequences of walking and talking and petty attempts at deconstructing it's own themes, they even have the audacity to do a sequence where dialogue is purposely muted, I thought my fucking TV was broken.
The real disgusting part about bait like this in games is it's not even bait though, the games writers really think they're clever, mature, and ground breaking for making boring fucking games
0978c2 No.15445830
>>15445400
>Best game of this generation
you say that like that's an achievement in this barren wasteland of an industry, just because something's a 4 in a sea on 2s and 3s doesn't make it good, the literal only reason anyone bought this slog of an painfully average game was because they were to busy thinking with their dick to even notice the gameplay is sub-par, Nier Automata is the literal Overwatch of Hack and Slashes.
8769c6 No.15445847
>>15445830
The /v/ rating scale is about as helpful as IGN's because everything that isn't a 90s PC game is either shit, mediocre, or average at best.
5e925b No.15445857
>>15445645
It's bait and actually flips the current propagated issues in the head.
It's pozzed, but in a much less malignant way. I was kind of surprised.
06628e No.15445860
>>15445847
I'm sorry that most people here dont like your shitty PS4 JRPGs.
00abc6 No.15445865
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15445857
> in a much less malignant way
ba44d9 No.15445887
>>15445830
This. Fucking accept it shills, there has not been a single good game released in years and this is something all oldfags can agree with.
>>15445847
SEETHING
Keep defending your shitty games, we'll keep BTFOing them again and again.
81fef3 No.15445937
I have never touched a Zelda game and want to get into it which should I start with? Also whats so bad about Breath of the Wild?
fc9799 No.15445941
>>15445937
Link's Awakening DX for the GBC
d4ebd1 No.15445942
>>15445937
>I have never touched a Zelda game and want to get into it which should I start with?
ALTTP or the Gameboy games
> Also whats so bad about Breath of the Wild?
A mile wide and an inch deep
ebd582 No.15446023
>>15445860
This. But don't expect shills to understand that our culture fucking requires people to see the truth about the shittiness of these games. If they don't, they can fuck off and stop derailing.
>>15445847
>(1) shill pussies out of the thread after being BTFO
The state of cuckchanners.
5d1ca0 No.15446029
>>15444717
>Bioshock Infinite
Definitely. In fact, their plan of making a MIND BLOWING story involving time travel and possibly the dumbest interpretation of the many worlds theory ever portrayed in media, got the game tons of 10/10s and GOTY awards, despite the game being objectively awful.
>Last of Us
Definitely bait. Faux emotional story. Muh struggle. Muh suffering. Muh nature. Muh hard choices. Muh illusion of challenge. Of course, journos ate it up.
>Breath of the Wild
Not sure. Unlike the other games, this one didn't try to portray itself as deeper or more meaningful or more "real" like the other games you've posted. It still made journos fap themselves raw, but not for the same reasons. It's an okay/10 game, but it's hard to figure out what it was that really made journos sperg so hard and declare it the best zelda ever.
>Uncharted 4
It can be assumed that anything naughty dog does these days is a blatant attempt to bait for critical accolades. Typically works, too.
>nuGoW
Muh dead wife. Muh difficult father-son relationship. Muh family drama. Muh boy is suddenly a huge prick who thinks he can do whatever he wants. Muh RPG elements and gear crafting. Undoubtedly, they were aiming for what they got: Journos sucking their dick because the game was fractionally deeper than a primetime procedural drama.
056499 No.15446031
>>15446023
>some wanna-be polcuck thinks screeching about a post is BTFOing someone
o am i laffin
ad88cd No.15446035
>>15446031
>polcuck
Thus entire site is /pol/. And that's good, lefty shill.
>screeching about a post is BTFOing someone
<telling the truth is screeching
909d5b No.15446038
>>15445665
I asked because I'm not american, I can't just imagine a nigger and get a premise from that.
1db5a0 No.15446040
>>15446023
>>15445998
>>15446035
Fuck's sake, blackpillfag, you're such a faggot
2ab784 No.15446081
>>15446074
>Torfags can't stop slurpin' cock and eating jizzum
>More at 11'
056499 No.15446102
>>15446035
>entire site is /pol/
>/pol/ has less population than two next boards combined
Yeah entirety of /cuteboys/ or other faggot boards might be /pol/, but it doesn't mean the entire site is /pol/. Math is not hard, maybe it's time you should learn it.
2cade4 No.15448027
>>15445669
I meant in regard of being a dad simulator. Unlike BS:I, tLoU, and nuGoW; you don't log around a kid.
78a88b No.15448311
>>15444729
I feel as if Yoko just read wikipedia entries about philosophy lol. Other than that I didn't really care about the existence crisis 9S was having, because I would still classify him as man. Like Christ says, there is those born of flesh and those born of spirit. Everyday I commune with people who are already dead. And I think what difference is there between them and machine. Everybody who has been saved is written in the book of life, the rest will perish. I would tell 9S to cheer up because you're basically like any other human without spirit. Very few will enter into the kingdom of heaven. My whole family is basically dead and maybe even I, yet I still love them and talk to them. Its weird, I guess it teaches you not to get too attached to things. When they die, they will return to the earth like the saints of old, in a deep sleep until the Trumpet sounds. I have loved girls who are lost sheep, so android waifus are not much of a difference. I figured, feeling sorry for androids for not having a soul is basically feeling sorry for flesh without spirit. You see it as a fact of life and move on.
54c5db No.15448432
>>15448320
/pol/ is a shithole with even more scum sucking redditor crossposters than /v/
/pol/ has been a shithole since late 2015 and the 2016 election was the killing blow.
ff646c No.15448893
True Oscar bait appeals to the people on the committee, itself. So it has to feature older white males as the protagonists, be a period piece because they're all old farts nostalgia about the "good old days", and most importantly be ABOUT THE INDUSTRY. There's nothing those fuckers like better than a movie about movies and/or moviemakers.
So for a video game, it would have to be something that directly references it being a video game, or just be about video gamers. So… if you could combine Bioshock Infinite (a period piece with a white male protag) with Undertale (a game essentially about gaming) then you'd have your video game equivalent to Oscar Bait.
>>15448432
You're not wrong, but /pol/ and their "culture" still rules this entire site and you'd be stupid not to recognize that.
45392e No.15448940
>>15448893
You almost had it, then you missed the point.
Oscar bait isn't a period piece with a white male protag that's about the industry, oscar bait is an otherwise shitty work that manages to become noteworthy because it appeals to the industry press that much, so something like Gone Home fits the bill perfectly.
Vidya's answer to Shakespeare in Love is not some theoretical construct made of other games, it is Gone Home.
4e508e No.15448978
>>15448955
>anons keep telling me to go back to /pol/. is my constant political posturing in threads where it's irrelevant making the overall board quality worse?
>no it's those kikes who are wrong
7d1bc2 No.15448981
>>15445830
Automata's gameplay is fucking superb as is almost everything else in the game.
45392e No.15448994
>>15448981
I thought the gameplay was just good.
Nothing to right home about, especially since Bayo and DMC are series that exist, but it worked well enough that the game's story was worth playing for at least before I lost a shitton of progress from my bad habits of not saving until I'm done playing and playing for long stretches of time
fa0896 No.15448999
>>15448327
It's supposed to be a realistic look at the seedy underworld of post-WWII America. The characters aren't supposed to be likeable
86cea0 No.15449002
>>15448978
oink oink, away with you
874210 No.15449007
>>15444949
<Skyrim
>minecraft-tier combat
>no spears
>can't climb that mountain
>dungeons all have the same puzzle
Saying any open world games is "like Skyrim" is like how game journalists call any semi-challenging game "souls-like". At least make a reasonable argument and not just shitpost.
874210 No.15449010
>>15448994
The term is "write" home about"
45392e No.15449012
>>15449010
Shit, I'm retarded
837d9b No.15449060
>>15448978
>multiple people coming to the same conclusion?
>no, it's them who are wrong, not me!
514915 No.15449087
This "Kojima is a serious auteur" meme needs to die. I can't believe how uncritically fucking retards will just parrot the line of bullshit that Kotaku, Rock Paper Shotgun, or any other outlet that would normally be disregarded on contact tells them regarding him or his development projects. The gaming media likes Kojima because he tries to use his position as a developer to make movies. Gaming journalists like movies because they can get a feel for them really quickly and they never present enough of a challenge to be a stumbling block. Death Stranding looks to be the pinnacle of Kojima's quest to get into Hollywood, being that he's finally conned enough C-list actors and sucked Del Taco's cock enough times that he gets to barely even have to pretend it's a game. The game isn't out for God knows how long, but I guarantee when it does come out the game will be full of hack writing and cryptic bullshit designed to look like symbolism and the usual suspects will be all over Kojima's dick harder than ever before. GOTY nominations will fly at it before it even gets demoed to anyone and it will be in substance a 6/10 or worse that is elevated simply for pretending to have a subject and because of its creator, which is exactly what you see in Oscar-bait at the Academy Awards.
b1bc78 No.15449089
>>15444944
It's actually worse than skyrim.
b4199a No.15449099
>>15444944
>forced
the game is mechanically weak as shit, it's not "terrible" but anyone who thinks it's some grand masterpiece has only played a handful of games, or religiously sucks nintendo cock
4e508e No.15449117
>>15449087
t. Hideki Hayakawa
fb10f5 No.15449119
Fucking shit thread. Also, broken clock is right twice a day.
9b8ca5 No.15449180
>>15444811
Bioshock 2 is the only decent game in the series.
Next you'll say Infinite is the best game in the series, it's the only way you could show even shittier taste.
ebf298 No.15449184
>>15446038
You'd be surprised what gets an investor hook. I think there was a movie called "the cuckold" or something that actually had funding put into it.
35f545 No.15449928
>>15449884
epic 4chan maymay, Isaac
7a122e No.15450490
this thread is oscar bait. bravo anon i am moved to tears
162aa3 No.15450719
>>15450712
Game isn't good because it isn't good
6edce1 No.15451417
What games are equivalent to Wong Kar-Wai kino?