dd8db9 No.15432514
The phase knob does diddly dick. I've gone through every option in the settings menu and I can't figure out how to fix the double vision/occasional whitewashed screen.
So how was your day? Find anything good?
c4b734 No.15432527
THREADLY REMINDER YOU CAN GET CRTS FOR FREE FROM YOUR LOCAL ELECTRONICS RECYCLING SERVICE
1de5d3 No.15432531
How much did you pay for that piece of shit
dd8db9 No.15432532
946d34 No.15432556
>Input lag on a display device
I don't understand this argument. The input comes from the controller
dd8db9 No.15432574
>>15432556
something about conversion from analog to digital signal
1de5d3 No.15432582
>>15432532
Good.
>>15432556
Then call it display lag retard
1f033e No.15432591
>>15432556
Wrong. All LCD screens have a certain amount of processing that needs to be done to interpret incoming digital signals, and in most cases the components used for that are dirt-cheap, bottom of the barrel garbage that introduce several frames of input latency, and this is without taking into account any analog-to-digital conversion and upscaling for old consoles like what >>15432574 mentions.
That said, if you can get a zero-latency converter/scaler like the OSSC, and an LCD screen that is using high-end parts to minimize latency (often found in the higher refresh rate models, but not exclusive to it) you can get a perfectly acceptable low-latency experience. Using a CRT is just how you ensure you've truly eliminated the input lag, and you get the visual experience that was intended by the developer. There are many classic games that in fact were designed to use the visual flaws inherent in the Composite video standard to enhance their visuals. CGA graphics is probably the most extreme example, it turns a Pink mess into a decently colorful image. A more minor example would be Genesis games simulating transparency on things like waterfalls or lights. Without the composite video standard in use, you see a checkerboard pattern instead of a transparency.
2dc7e6 No.15432607
Sonic Mania in a CRT is delicious
dd8db9 No.15432609
>>15432591
Don't forget about scanlines making pixels truly square instead of the smooshed ones you'd get on a digital TV.
0ea0c8 No.15432610
>>15432514
you are sending a 480i set a 480p signal, set your wii to 480i.
2d4df1 No.15432621
>>15432591
The ultimate state of LARPing: the post
e27e58 No.15432622
>Second GPU has Svideo out
>game has not retarded ui scaling and is readable in 480p
e27e58 No.15432633
>>15432556
It's a meme that doesn't actually matter for 99% of software.
>inb4 fags pop in saying that punchout is impossible to play on a lcd screen because you can't react fast enough
7b90db No.15432640
>>15432527
yes but are they not garbage? I got one, some huge ass sony 32 inch Trintron, looks pretty good with component, like really good, but I think i want something smaller. This thing is over 100 pounds and needs a ton of space.
1f033e No.15432641
>>15432621
Come back when you have some knowledge of display hardware instead of shitposts.
0ea0c8 No.15432672
>>15432655
GJ
>>15432640
contact hospitals, electronics reyclers, etc. don't ask to buy just ask if they have it and ask to speak to a technician in the case of hospitals and tell that specific person you'd like to see them if they don't have a use for them. that is if you want a pro monitor. If you don't find a nice toshiba theaterview, jvc d-series, sony wega, or panasonic tau that isn't massive and has component and you're set.
6f10fe No.15432674
>>15432527
Those services now instantly cut the power cord and bring them to the dump. I have found two CRT's in my local town of the past year and they have both died in 3 months. The closest one I can get is 4 hours away. If you have a CRT, cherish it and take good care of it. As for now I have to play my snes games on a emulator with a ibuffalo which isn't too bad.
0ea0c8 No.15432679
>>15432674
cut power cords aren't an issue, super easy to replace.
6f10fe No.15432687
>>15432674
Oh I know, I am just saying for the average "I just got into video games/ retro games because of gamergate" it is a huge hassle.
6f10fe No.15432688
>>15432679
Woops, replied to myself.
0ea0c8 No.15432722
>>15432687
Nah, 6 screws, cut a spare two prong power cord, de-solder the old one, solder in the new one, close it up and you're good.
9072cc No.15432745
I have two Sony 14L4 screens in good condition that I could buy. How much would be a good price for a European?
0ea0c8 No.15432783
>>15432745
Just the tubes or the whole monitor?
c4b734 No.15432871
>>15432640
>yes but are they not garbage?
It depends. I suspect most of them are working. Remember that most CRTs thrown out, are done so simply because LCDs replaced them, someone found one in their attic or Boomers moving to Florida.
>>15432674
>Those services now instantly cut the power cord and bring them to the dump
Well the one I went to had 2 monitors and a TV, so I'm calling bullshit.
9072cc No.15432872
>>15432783
On the actual monitor. Mistranslated, sorry.
9072cc No.15432875
>>15432872
*The actual monitor. JFC
75c335 No.15432877
e02d5d No.15432884
>>15432875
This is Monitor Actual, go ahead.
348d22 No.15432891
>>15432722
You forgot about tying a not in the power cable.
That's the most crucial step when you replace/mod cables.
Otherwise if something tugs on the cable, you could just rip it straight out.
9072cc No.15432897
>>15432877
They look nice and are sturdy as fuck.
>>15432884
Thoinks
0ea0c8 No.15432898
>>15432891
fair enough, nobody wants that or any torn pads as a result of it.
>>15432872
a lot of people toss around $10 per inch for RGB monitors these days, I'd like to try and get them for about 150 tops, test them out before hand, just send them at least a composite signal to see if there's anything weird going on with them. Are they within driving distance or are they something you're gonna get shipped? The L4 while not multiformat is a very nice HR trinitron which means it has a high line count so the picture is very sharp.
9072cc No.15432914
>>15432898
A few picture. Dude has a asking price of €160, so $185. However, I live in cheapcuntistan, so I should be able to haggle off about €50 to €60. They look pretty good, and nearly every location here is just a three hours drive max, so I am definitely going to pick them up if I buy them.
348d22 No.15432919
>>15432722
They're sturdy as fuck, support light gun games, and you dont have to worry about latency because the display's analogue.
0ea0c8 No.15432922
>>15432914
Looks very good. You don't really need two, so if you can at least get one for a good deal that's awesome. Geometry seems adequate and there's no other noticeable issues.
348d22 No.15432942
>>15432914
Yea I doubt you'd be able to haggle that much off it but, even for 160eur, it's still a good price considering you dont have to worry about shipping.
9072cc No.15433024
>>15432942
> Yea I doubt you'd be able to haggle that much off it
You have no idea of what the Dutch are capable off
Seriously
I got a PS2 and a XBOX HUEG including cables excluding controllers for €10,-
348d22 No.15433105
>>15433024
How the fuck did you score that stuff and get paird for it.
578c3f No.15433252
>>15432877
Games designed to be played on CRTs should be played on CRTs. Need proof? Light guns.
c4b734 No.15433385
>>15433252
Anyone who says otherwise just hasn't played on CRT within the last decade.
ecccc1 No.15433427
My CRT TV recently started making buzzing sounds and the screen flickering/turning off with a weird noise. Is it basically dead already?
c4b734 No.15433437
>>15433427
I hope not. My CRT also will randomly flicker.
ae70ec No.15433449
>>15433252
Light gun games in the home suck. They're good when they're arcade cabinets because arcade cabinets had better tech allowing one to play the game as it was designed.
>>15433413
>so-called aryans
>eating copious amounts of processed meat (sausages) and drinking copious amounts of beer
Germanics got what they deserved. Cider > Beer.
348d22 No.15433460
>>15433427
It's not dead but, it's on it's way out.
If you care about the tv, get it fixed while it's still working.
c4b734 No.15434396
>>15433449
If you're drinking anything aside from the occasional glass of wine you're a degenerate.
17eacf No.15434534
How hard would it be for a novice to recap a PVM-20M2U? I've got one that's become so dark it's no longer usable, & everyone tells me recapping the thing would likely fix it. Savon Pat has a full recap lot of capacitors with a soldering map. Thoughts?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/192627463334/
0ea0c8 No.15434537
>>15434534
do you know how long it was in service and its history? These PVMs don't have hour counters but it could just be the tube dying of over use which you can't do anything about.
c4b734 No.15434557
>>15434534
If you don't know what you're doing 100% you don't want to fuck with the insides of a tube tv. It's like working on a microwave.
07db70 No.15434595
>>15432514
My buddy nabbed a 1983 Sony Trinitron with the remote controller off the sidewalk a few months ago. Someone just left it outside on the curb like it was some piece of trash.
Pics are off the model not the one he got
07db70 No.15434602
>>15434595
*correction, only the first image is the model he got the second is different on closer inspection. Sage for double posting
a0a8dc No.15434607
>>15434396
>wine
Do you also shove a foot long dildo up your arse when you are enjoying your glass of pussy juice you fucking faggot?
0ea0c8 No.15434640
>>15434595
I like getting sets for aesthetic reasons. I'm anal when it comes to RGB support but certain trinitrons from the 80s look fantastic. I got this guy late last year and it's not a very high end model, but has RGB and a fantastic style. Just needed a bit of cleaning up.
720f0a No.15434673
Do you guys have any experience with CRT computer monitors? I've always wanted a high-end model and have the opportunity to get a 21" Sony CDP-G520 for about $60.
Specs seem good, but is this actually a good deal?
575933 No.15434710
do light gun games work on flat CRTs? or only ones with curved screens. whats the best for these types of games, i cant really find anything over 24" with a curved tube.
dd8db9 No.15435122
So how do you "take care" of a CRT monitor/TV? Do you pet it with industrial magnets? Change capacitors? Sing songs to it?
b3bf73 No.15435174
>>15435122
Cleaning out dust is one of the most important things you can do. Be warned that there are some beefy capacitors in CRTs, especially larger ones. You'll get one hell of a shock if you poke around the wrong spot without properly discharging/draining them.
Replacing electrolytic capacitors in electronics that are 20+ years old is a good idea, they go out of spec over time and cheap shitty ones will leak a corrosive fluid that destroys the boards.
Flyback transformers are another part that tends to fail (and usually the culprit behind humming/buzzing sounds), so that's another part to consider replacing if you can find one.
9072cc No.15435190
>>15434710
Nope, all CRT's will work. Light guns work based on the scanning beam location and timing, so anything with a tube should work. Of course, keep in mind that some reflective coatings and light sources will piss in your cornflakes.
>>15435122
Dusting, occasional check-up of caps and components. Like >>15435174 said, if you touch the wrong part, even when the things are disconnected, you'll get shocked with multiple kilo volts. Although the amperage and duration of the discharge are survivable, if it hits you in the wrong spot you'll fry your own insides.
443d57 No.15435299
>>15435122
Electrician here. I just open those things up and feel around for any parts that may get loose over time, or dying capacitors. New plasma tvs basically give you cancer if you touch their goop. CRTs were extremely safe to handle, and still are, unplugging them before touching their smaller capacitors is just a formality
9072cc No.15435361
>>15435299
Chemist here. What sparky said; don't touch the goop. The LCD good is toxic, but will rarely give you cancer. Newer models with quantum dots are more dangerous though, these are sometimes cadmium/sulfur based, and these are mutagenic substances. Although I do have to say that the amount of radiation you receive from CRT's is higher than LCD/Plasma/QD, the amount is comparable to eating a extra banana a week. Doesn't matter for shit, is what I'd say.
d541cc No.15435369
>>15435299
>the things that could discharge a lethal amount of current
>extremely safe to handle
9072cc No.15435379
>>15435369
> An anvil is very dangerous for the cranium
> But only when suspended 60 feet above you with two cotton threads
d541cc No.15435397
>>15435379
You do understand that you can prefer CRTs over shit flat panels without needing to go full retard and make out like they had no disadvantages whatsoever right? Rummaging around randomly inside a CRT is not safe and your retarded analogy doesn't change that.
9072cc No.15435407
>>15435397
But anon, I do prefer CRT's in certain situations. I was making fun of your analogy, since both the anvil and the capacitors have a lot of potential energy that can be released in a blink of an eye, but of you are careful (discharging caps, lowering the anvil) there is nothing to worry about, especially when you know what you are doing.
164469 No.15435446
>>15432527
I jog daily past dumpsters placed alongside apartment buildings, mostly since I deal with PC parts and repairs and such, and you can salvage something out of any computer. I don't particularly like CRTs, as it always makes me think my eyes are fucked, same reason I hate antialiasing, but if any of you are interested, you should do the same, I see a CRT once every two days at least.
On top of that, there's a local "giveaway" group, for people who just want to get rid of shit and would rather someone take them off their hands than bother to sell it or anything. I see at least one CRT a day there, and this isn't a very big town compared to American towns, so if you can find anything of the sort, you should look into it.
As for whether they're good, probably not, but they're free, you might as well try it out.
d541cc No.15435449
>>15435407
>I was making fun of your analogy
It's wasn't an analogy you dumb cunt. Your analogy is retarded because it's common sense that a heavy object dropped on your head would be harmful. Most people assume electronics when turned off are safe which is why they added big fat warning stickers in CRTs that you shouldn't fuck around with them unless you know what you're doing.
9072cc No.15435478
>>15435449
> I wasn't making an analogy
Alright, fair point; my mistake. Most people do assume these things are safe, and indeed the are not. But to the person who knows what they are doing - sampled from 8chan - would recognize the dangers and ask for help.
5b98e5 No.15436131
>>15435478
CRTs can be unsafe, but if you know what to avoid (hv, flyback, probe) it's not difficult to work on them. Anything beyond adjustment such as replacing components should first prompt you to build a discharge tool which only requires a flat head, some electrical tape, and some thick insulated wire. Maybe some high voltage electricians gloves but only if you feel you need it. After you probe at the cap and lift it, you're gonna be fine. Give it a few taps while secured to the ground chassis and you'll be okay. Reassemble carefully as they can still hold or build a charge, but at that point the shock would be more a pinch rather than a heart stopper.
c4b734 No.15437349
>>15434607
>Drink tide bro
no thanks
02ae35 No.15438432
>>15432527
I live in the fucking middle of nowhere. Deep in the heart of western texas, not to be confused with eastern texas where everybody lives, and I'm nowhere near El Paso either which is the only city on this side of the state anyone's ever heard of.
In other words we don't have that shit, we have cattle ranching and mountains and wide open spaces.
What's a place online I could get a CRT? Ebay doesn't ever return dick except "le local pickup :)" in urban hellholes like LA or something.
d12547 No.15438557
>>15438432
Drive to Amarillo and find an electronics/used electronics store. There has to be atleast something like that in Amarillo where you can get a CRT. Or look at a garage sale around there.
dd8db9 No.15440878
Is it ok to use a PVM on a rug? I know it's a stupid question, but I'm a bit paranoid after getting zapped a couple of times by audio equipment (my fault entirely) and I'm hurting for space.
d1c6e1 No.15441049
Does anyone still produce CRTs? Where do they sell them?
9072cc No.15441175
>>15440878
If you ground it properly it is not a problem.
7d1f94 No.15441212
>>15432514
Why does your microwave show the wii menu???
dd8db9 No.15441252
I can't get the picture to stop being blue. The regular wii menu looks fine, but the homebrew and wiiflow channels are dark as shit even after fiddling with color temperature settings. It's as if black is mostly replaced by darker shades of blue like a printer that's running out of black ink. The whole schtick with CRT displays is that it displays pure black/doesn't project the electrode on "black" spaces.
>>15441212
My entire family has made the same joke, at least be original with your insults.
9c197b No.15441661
>>15441252
Probably not terminating the outputs
9c197b No.15441694
>>15441675
Post the back side of the monitor
9c197b No.15441874
>>15441712
I can't tell but those boards may be self terminating, try plugging the wii into the neighboring card with no terminators or remove them. Sony made self terminating equipment frequently
fdc1a9 No.15441973
I hope the tube inside those shitboxes explodes in autists' faces and they become blind because of it.
c4b734 No.15442069
>>15438432
I don't know then. That local pickup shit is really fucking annoying to. It's always New York or some east coast shithole.
dd8db9 No.15442167
>>15441973
>CRT
>exploding
>>15441874
I was surprised to see you were right considering I got this guy with the terminators already plugged in. Same situation. While fucking around with settings you can see that during color set up the screen looks normal, but then switches back to feeling blue once you try to use those settings.
0ea0c8 No.15442241
>>15442167
That's definitely an issue with the signal, how does it look when you launch something like a wii or GC game?
dd8db9 No.15442266
>>15442241
blue >>15441252
Just tried Kirb 20th anniversary, gets darker the longer I play. I actually left them both on for a while and the picture was nigh completely navy blue, couldn't see shit, cap'n.
0ea0c8 No.15442274
>>15442266
And what if you leave the CRT on a test white screen with no signal coming from the Wii?
dd8db9 No.15442285
>>15442274
Dunno, will try it tomorrow, now it's time to sleep and dream of perfect square pixels and aesthetic scanlines.
0ea0c8 No.15442290
>>15442285
it's probably an issue with the wii, if anything try to see how other consoles work, use high quality cables, rgb or ypbpr signals may give you the results you want. I think you might just have chink cables which are the issue.
c4b734 No.15443459
>>15441973
Imagine being this jealous.
dd8db9 No.15444066
>>15442290
Nope, cable's fine, can plug it into my LCD screen and it works like a charm. The PVM however is now almost completely blue, even when I switch the B signal off completely. Color temperature adjustment no longer goes into the gray test screen and just stays on the real display. The blue one. I'm thinking it's something internal, gonna have to open this sucker up and see the real reason why I got it for free.
d4eaf9 No.15444073
>>15442285
see that 24 inch monitor right in the middle? That's a FW9012, the HP rebranding of an FW-900. If you're on a look out for the sony widescreen CRTs, remember those exist. I wanted to buy one but it would be too far of a drive.
There's also the FW9011, made for SGI in beautiful black. I've never seen one in the wild.
Blogpost:
I only have only one FW-900, I actually saw 2 others on craigslist equivalents but the drives were always too far. I'm kinda bummed now because I haven't seen listings for sony 24 inchers in six months now
996d3a No.15444400
>>15444073
Don't you get lower refresh rates on a widescreen CRT?
d4eaf9 No.15444643
>>15444400
yeah, because you have a higher number of pixels. I run the FW900 at 85 Hz when it's in 1920x1200 mode. I set up a 1920x800 mode for gaming, that is 120 Hz.
That might as well be a Trinitron problem, my Diamondtron is 4:3 but you could set 16:10@120 Hz as far as I recall
0ea0c8 No.15444673
>>15444073
I'm personally fond of the Lacie Electron 22 Blue IV. Really nice Mitsubishi Diamondtron tube with excellent color reproduction. Used them back in the photo lab. I've only got a Sony CPD G220R for now, good monitor but nothing special.
>>15444066
It could be a problem on the input side of things, if it slowly gets worse that's likely capacitors, but if it gets worse when running certain wii software that seems like an issue outside of the monitor. I'd strongly recommend trying something else.
dd8db9 No.15444689
>>15444673
I opened the case up and it looks fine, all the capacitors look intact and unbloated. The screen and UI are all blue now, even without anything plugged in, so the problem in 100% internal.
d4eaf9 No.15444692
>>15444673
>Lacie Electron 22 Blue IV.
yeah, that's what I own. It's amazing, the colour is better than on the Sony. Best 4:3 monitor ever it would seem.
I'll need to get the GFW calibrated, though. I tried hooking up with a CP2102 converter but WinDAS refuses to work…
c4b734 No.15447087
My CRT is starting to flicker hard. Like I hear a static zap and the display pops. It use to do it every once in a while, but now it's frequent. Anyone know what this is a sign of?
baac96 No.15447107
>>15447087
I remember that mine started to do that about a month before he died.
d671f3 No.15456154
>>15432622
You cant transmit 480p over S-Video, you twit.
>>15432891
Solder joints are stronger than the wire itself, anon. Are you retarded enough to splice a mains power lead without actually soldering it?
>>15432877
Most old games don't use perfectly square pixels, leading to squashed visuals on LCDs, Color reproduction is generally better on a CRT, there's no lag caused by internal scalers and ADC conversions, etc.
Basically anything pre-HDMI should be played on a CRT.
>>15442285
CRT pixels aren't perfectly square though. That's the point. LCD pixels are square, which means games made for CRTs have incorrect geometry when played on LCDs.
c4b734 No.15456459
>>15456154
>Solder joints are stronger than the wire itself, anon.
I'm extremely skeptical about that. Maybe not for CRTs, but I've seen plenty of other cases where the solder joint breaks, but NO cases where the wire breaks.
c4b734 No.15458225
I've been reading that a lot of video cards are 31hz and most CRT monitors are 15hz. What exactly is the downside of running 31hz into 15 hz? Screen tearing?
9072cc No.15459699
YOINK
€130
Also I never had a chance to show off my radical 8chan socks
85e834 No.15459736
>>15459699
I thought you were wearing stockings, I was about to call you a fucking faggot.
Groovy socks, man.
d671f3 No.15459955
>>15456459
If you solder and flux properly, the solder will flow into the space between fibers in the wire, basically turning the entire thing into a section of solid metal once cooled. Solid metal is stronger than tightly twisted strands of wire with nothing but insulation holding it together.
tl;dr: git gud.
0822cb No.15460019
I have a hand-me-down C64 monitor that's been in my family since the C64 was new.
It's seen plenty of gaming action over the decades, from playing bootleg Pac-Man clones on C64, straight through the SNES era with games like Super Castlevania and Buster Busts Loose, my uncle kept it in his basement room where he played Symphony of the Night and FF7 on it, straight on up to the PS2 and Dreamcast era where we played SSX, Shenmue, Power Stone and Code Veronica, and finally I recall playing Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 on it before it couldn't keep up with the hardware anymore.
It's seen three decades of gaming and is still ticking, but the colors are starting to flicker and wear out ocassionally. Thankfully some people have told me that this might just be a bad joint, and if percussive maintenance does the trick (slapping it on the side gently) then it can easily be fixed. I hope this monitor continues to serve me well. Losing it would be like losing a member of the family at this point.
9072cc No.15460033
More pics. Phone is shit, pictures are in no way describing the look. Amazing.
>>15459736
I would have called you a faggot if you had called me a faggot. Instead, thanks!
33874a No.15461882
Can anyone tell me what's going on with the picture here? Only the right side looks fucked.
17eacf No.15461891
>>15461882
what am I suppose to be seeing? I don't see any issues.
5bb946 No.15461896
Why don't you guys just get an OSSC or something?
17eacf No.15461906
>>15461896
Already have multiple RGB monitors from before people started valuing them. Why would I want an OSSC?
0ea0c8 No.15461957
>>15461896
cuz LCDs always look worse
c4b734 No.15461961
>>15461896
>Why don't you guys want perfectly square indie-shit tier pixels
>Why don't you guys want to see jagged edges of polygons
>Why don't you guys want faded colors and shitty blacks
It's a mystery
33874a No.15461969
>>15461891
I suppose it is difficult to see because of the camera. The right side of the screen looks wavy.
17eacf No.15461991
>>15461969
I see it now. Have you tried the 240p test suite to adjust geometry? If it's not fixable off of that it could easily be a dying tube, or more likely a dying capacitor. If it's the later you'll need a professional to do a recap.
19291e No.15461995
Can anyone tell me what exactly is fucked up about this TV and if it would even be worth fixing? Found it at the dump about a year back and managed to get it upstairs in my apartment without killing myself, turned it on only to see the picture was messed up and never really bothered with it since.
0ea0c8 No.15461996
>>15461991
definitely not a dying tube, most likely just aged capacitors. If you're familiar with working on electronics learning how to work on CRTs isn't a big step up.
0ea0c8 No.15462007
>>15461995
it's got retrace issues at the bottom which is odd because that's usually at the top. geometry is in poor shape. Samsung tubes are pretty notorious. I wouldn't concern yourself about keeping it around.
17eacf No.15462011
>>15461996
you say that like messing around inside a tube couldn't kill you. Working up to tube TV repair is serious business. You have to have a proper place to do the work, & a LOT of safety info to pull it off. It's not a beginner's project.
>>15461995
wow that's bad. Again, 90% of the time it's a dying capacitor, & you shouldn't adjust for geometry before you do a full recap. Do you have any local arcades? Maybe they have a serviceman that coud help you.
0ea0c8 No.15462016
>>15462011
>you say that like messing around inside a tube couldn't kill you
only the flyback and annode cap, discharge them first of course
>It's not a beginner's project.
if you've got familiarity with electronics, CRTs are very simple once you get the safety down.
33874a No.15462017
>>15461991
I thought it might be a dying capacitor. I might have to find someone to fix it then.
17eacf No.15462025
>>15462017
well the problem is if you adjust for geometry BEFORE recapping it, you're adjusting for a tube with caps that are just going to get worse & worse which is going to really frustrate you. again, see if there's any local arcades that have CRT monitors. there's very few people that still fix these things.
c4b734 No.15462028
>>15462016
>if you've got familiarity with electronics, CRTs are very simple once you get the safety down.
It's really easy to fuck up shit as a beginner because you missed a very important detail. I've fucked around a ton with electronics, and I still wont have anything to do with a CRT. I wouldn't even open my monitor to clean it out, just dropped it off at a shop to have them do it. A couple of sheckles isn't worth risking my life over.
19291e No.15462031
>>15462007
I was really hoping you wouldn't say that, seriously this thing is huge and heavy as shit, that's why I haven't really done anything with it . Was excited when I first picked it up too cause it's an EDTV and It has some great speakers with two subs built in too.
>>15462011
I have a couple of local arcades and some but I debated whether it would be worth it to break my back again to get this down a flight of stairs and load it into the car.
19291e No.15462035
>>15462011
>>15462031
>I have a couple of local arcades and some
Meant to also say I have some TV repair shops around me too.
c4b734 No.15462040
>>15462025
>there's very few people that still fix these things.
More than you'd think. I popped into a TV repair shop recently and I must have seen 7 CRTs lying around waiting for repair.
17eacf No.15462051
>>15462031
>I debated whether it would be worth it to break my back again to get this down a flight of stairs and load it into the car.
Leave your contact info first, then debate whether it's worth it AFTER they go
Yeah I fix CRTS, bring it on over
>>15462035
>Meant to also say I have some TV repair shops around me too.
even if they still repair CRTs, which is very doubtful, they're likely to do a shitty job. Unless they're hobbyists who also play games, I doubt they would go the extra mile for you. Most TV repair places are just glorified LCD repairmen. CRT repair is basically a hobby only thing now.
>>15462040
That's surprising. Well anyway, ask around, do some google searches for places locally I guess. Couldn't hurt to try.
c4b734 No.15462058
>>15462051
>That's surprising
Not too surprising. I suspect a ton of people in my area got fucked by the recession and didn't replace all the TVs in their house with LCDs yet. I also noticed a ton of the boomers around here are hoarders.
0ea0c8 No.15462072
File: a41e52184058ca3⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 951.52 KB, 3264x2448, 4:3, P_20180916_225332_vHDR_On.jpg)
>>15462028
What's the matter anon, afraid of some CRTitties? Once you learn proper discharging, it's very easy to do. Do not be afraid and if you've got experience with replacing small components on electronics, you can absolutely do it.
>>15462031
Samsung CRTs are just notorious for their issues. Sorry for the trouble.
19291e No.15462090
>>15462051
>Yeah I fix CRTS, bring it on over
How much do you typically charge for issues like mine?
b4ae45 No.15462098
>>15435478
>not purposely breaking the screen and over volting the electron gun to atomically neuter everyone within a 100 foot radius.
f593c5 No.15462143
>>15462072
Bastard,i was hoping for a lewded CRT
17eacf No.15462713
Are there any good books on CRT repair from the 90's/00's. Would any of them make sense to a layman?
c4b734 No.15462825
>>15462713
I'd take some sort of electrical repair class before fucking with a CRT despite what some might tell you.
9072cc No.15462974
Alright; question. What is the best way to hook up the SNES to a PVM? I want composite/RGB, but the thing is that the only cables I can find are SNES AV to scart, and there are zero to none scart to rgb/comp cables available. What about making a slightly jank setup with SNESAV>scart>VGA>Component? This would be the cheapest currently available setup I could think of.
17eacf No.15463001
>>15462974
>What is the best way to hook up the SNES to a PVM?
RGB on a SNES Model 2 or a 1chip Model 1. Each also requires Voultar's ghosting fix mod if you want the 100% sharpest picture possible. The Model 1 does RGB natively, the Model 2 needs modding to restore RGB.
9072cc No.15463029
>>15463001
Alright, I was expecting I was going to have to mod the thing. I have the three dots of doom, looking at the expansion slot, but it is a PAL device anyways.
9072cc No.15463032
>>15463001
>>15463029
Additionally, what would the best cable setup be?
7f357a No.15463037
was there ever a crt made that support 3-5k+ resolution?
checkmate crt fags
17eacf No.15463069
>>15463032
>what would the best cable setup be?
these guys make basically the best SNES RGB cables possible. There was an ebay seller from florida that did compatible work, but the name escapes me.
https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/nintendo/super-nintendo
1ee352 No.15463460
>>15463069
Yeah, I know those guys exist and I was going to buy a cable from them. However, the only have SNESAV to scart, and my PVM only grabs composite, componentt, svideo and rgb. Like I said, with a lack of scart to component/rgb cables I would have to make some jank adapter setup to make it work.
1ee352 No.15463500
>>15463460
Found some listings on Ebay, could not find them new. I'll check those out first.
dd8db9 No.15464167
Nigga, I ain't got a heatgun, nor would I try soldering anything while the PVM is still on.
3301c5 No.15464651
I have two PVM monitors. I want to sell then both for a consumer grade trini with S-video and component.
But I'm too lazy to look for a nice looking model and to put mine on eBay.
9072cc No.15465338
Alright, I have two things I want. The first is to output my SNES to rgb, via the first two cables. Next, I want to have the PVM function as a regular monitor. I would like to do this with the switch in pic three, and feed it into the first cable.
If I were to buy this and hook it all up, would it work?
0ea0c8 No.15465363
>>15465338
What model SNES is it?
>The first is to output my SNES to rgb, via the first two cables
that'll work just fine
>Next, I want to have the PVM function as a regular monitor.
in theory yes, but I don't know how that scaler works. You can do some custom resolutions with your PC but I'm not sure of the extent of it. If you only have an SD PVM, 480i/240p would be your best bet.
9072cc No.15465441
>>15465363
PAL with three dots of doom (no 1chip)
Sony PVM 14L4
Theoretically, with the options within Windows, I should be able to output a signal that acts as a projector, but is just a different resolution. The PVM has 16:9 support too, but it would be cool to show 4:3 too.
0be0c1 No.15465659
Everyone knows that the perfect CRT is an old-fashioned color console TV.
You know, like the one grandma used to have. I fucking love my TV.
0ea0c8 No.15465675
>>15465441
I'd stick to 4:3, simply because 16:9 shrinks the image. I know plenty of people who do it, the only thing I'm not sure on is the scaler.
9072cc No.15465697
>>15465675
My thought, thanks. How would you do it?
>>15465659
Nice! Display and buttons stand out too much for my taste though.
0ea0c8 No.15465729
>>15465697
similar to what you're doing, or they use a GPUs output. I know you can set custom resolutions with nvidia cards, not sure of AMD ones go that low. Some GPUs have analog/sd output but newer ones being digital only may need conversion like you're doing. Since HDMI is just carrying a signal, it all depends on how the box resolves the signal and converts it to analog.
I don't really have much advice to give on it, it should work as SCART while capable of 480p+ is mostly treated as an SD source, so in theory you could feed it 480p and it'll come out as 480i. I'd experiment too with 240p, to see how the converter resolves it.
9072cc No.15465757
>>15465729
I currently only have a laptop available, so I can't connect it to a graphics card yet. May change in the future. I can buy the boy relatively cheap, so I might just do that unless another anon jumps in with additional advice. For now, thanks dude!
0ea0c8 No.15465762
>>15465757
Even my dinky laptop has HDMI out, check yours and it might work for you. Good luck and I hope it gives you the results you want.
17eacf No.15466521
>>15463460
>my PVM only grabs composite, componentt, svideo and rgb
ALL PVMs (to my knowledge) do RGB out of their BNC ports. What are you talking about? You need a Euro Scart to BNC connector, then you plug that into the BNC ports on the back of the PVM.
>>15464167
What's going on here. Did you turn the blue gun only on?
>>15464651
>I want to sell then both for a consumer grade trini with S-video and component.
Why would anyone want to do that? Are they not big enough?
>>15465338
First two is how almost everyone hooks of their RGB monitors so that's fine.
>>15465338
>I want to have the PVM function as a regular monitor.
You want to hook up a PC to the PVM? ?I don't get what you're trying to do there. If you want to run emulators on your PVM, most people build a Retropi, or mod a Wii. You're not trying to use a 4:3 PVM as a PC monitor are you?
dd8db9 No.15466833
>>15466521 (opie, but not anthony)
>blue
I think the green and red guns must've failed because when I try to turn off the blue signal it goes completely black. It started out fine, but then it turned progressively more blue
17eacf No.15466926
>>15466833
I ask because there's an option on some professional monitors to turn off every gun but blue for color grading. My BVM even has a "BLUE ONLY" button on the front panel.
74db75 No.15467734
>>15466521
>Are they not big enough?
It's not about their size really.
I just kinda fell for the PVMeme last year and while I did enjoy them and messing around with them, I want something more aesthetically pleasing.
d671f3 No.15467972
>>15465338
Just get a regular PC monitor, dude.
17eacf No.15468115
>>15467734
There aren't any consume trinitrons sharper than 500-600 lines that I'm aware of. If you were here I'd buy them in cash off you. They're just going to keep going up in price. Would be nice to have some backups.
74db75 No.15468181
>>15468115
I was planning on selling them for up to 100€ (both)
I'll get a consumer version and do a side by side comparison.
If the consumer one doesn't bug me I'll put em up for sale.
I wish I found one of pic relates tho.
I love how they look.
17eacf No.15468202
>>15468181
It looks like it takes scart directly. Neat.
dd8db9 No.15468272
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>15466926
So does mine, you can even see it on one of the photos. I think I'll have to resolder a few things, but I'd like to know what I'm NOT SUPPOSED TO TOUCH IN A CRT TO AVOID DEATH VIA 1,21 GIGAWATTS.
9072cc No.15468304
>>15468272
I love the confidence he has in his repairs. "We're going to resolder these connections, an that is going to fix this TV." Sloppy soldering though.
>>15467972
I won't use is as a primary (or even secondary) monitor, I just would like to connect it to my laptop sometimes.
>>15466521
Since you replied to multiple posts: I'm gonna go with the snes-scart-bnc setup. Also, yes, I want to connect my PC to my PVM, and no, I am not using at as a primary monitor.
d671f3 No.15468740
>>15468304
For what reason though, a good PC CRT requires no workarounds and is actually more versatile than a PVM
17eacf No.15468746
>>15468304
>I want to connect my PC to my PVM
Why? For emulation? are you going to run windows 7 in 4:3 or something on it? Just seems like a weird thing to do.
edccaf No.15468808
>>15468202
Yes, now if only I could find one nearby.
It's then only screen I'm willing to replace my PVM with.
9072cc No.15469322
>>15468740
>>15468746
> Why?
Literally only for shits and giggles. I would like to see how Birdy the Mighty or Dirty Pair would look on my monitor.
d671f3 No.15469347
>>15469322
Not very good, dubsman. You're going to be dealing with 480i. Enjoy your flicker.
6e3e2d No.15469428
>>15432514
your monitor shouldn't diddle any dicks
9072cc No.15469465
To follow up on >>15465338, does image quality change when using a sync on luma/csync cable? Which one is best?
>>15469347
Bummer.
d671f3 No.15469728
>>15469465
C-Sync > Luma, though on a CRT the difference is negligible. The on;y way you'd see an appreciable difference is if you used a scaler and an LCD. CRTs are very good at masking minor video flaws.
Figure out if your SNES is a 1-Chip and get which ever you need, though I'm pretty sure Sync-on-luma works on all original SNES units, since the Luma line is pulled from S-Video.
9072cc No.15469927
>>15469728
Alright, that makes sense. Now; there are four different cables:
The SNES to scart:
https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/super-nintendo-pal-rgb-av-scart-cable-lead-cord-for-sale?tracking=5543fb4c077bb (with luma sync)
https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/SUPER-NINTENDO-SNES-PAL-RGB-SCART-COMPOSITE-SYNC-CSYNC (with csync)
And the scart to BNC:
https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/sony-pvm-scart-converter-bnc (without a csync stripper)
https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/female-rgb-break-out-scart-to-4-x-bnc--2-x-rca-for-sony-pvm-monitors (with a csync stripper)
Can I buy the snes-scart cable with csync, and buy the scart-bnc without stripper in order to profit from the csync, or do I need to double up and buy BOTH the csync snes-scart and stripper scart-bnc? Or does the scart-bnc cable from sync from luma and converts it into csync?
d671f3 No.15470044
>>15469927
I just made my own, to be honest.
>buy cheap ass SCART cable from China
>buy a few feet of shielded 10-line cable
>split the Multi AV connector open (They're usually barely welded or glued if at all)
>remove chineseium wire, replace with about 6" of the good shit
>run the other end into a project box, with S-Video, RCA jacks for RGBs, and audio out
Still costs less than those fucking things, all said.
I don't bother using BNC cables ever. The cost per unit is pretty pointlessly expensive. Get a set of RCA adapters for your CRT's BNCs, and use decent quality RCA cables.
17eacf No.15470397
>>15470044
>buy cheap ass SCART cable from China
Hey if you want audio buzzing from an improperly shielded scart cable go for it.
ae9dc3 No.15471110
Picked up a 27 inch Panasonic Tau today for $25. Video looks pretty great even if the cabinet is not perfect.
c4b734 No.15471156
>>15466521
>You want to hook up a PC to the PVM? ?I don't get what you're trying to do there. If you want to run emulators on your PVM, most people build a Retropi, or mod a Wii. You're not trying to use a 4:3 PVM as a PC monitor are you?
What's wrong with that? Maybe it's not good for day to day use, but you can flip it on for firing up older PC games which relied on the better color. Thief for example, benefits tremendously when using a CRT.
7ba2f6 No.15472131
>>15433449
>Light gun games in the home suck.
no u
0f6fd8 No.15472148
>>15433252
I can't believe he's dead.
d671f3 No.15472454
>>15471156
Then why wouldn't you just use a PC CRT?
d49083 No.15472509
>>15468740
There are actually a handful of situations in which a PC monitor's inability to do interlaced-scan is a detriment, like old TV shows. Old vidya isn't really an example, as aside from the PS2, all of them rendered to a progressive-scan framebuffer, and specific artifacts like NTSC or composite can be replicated flawlessly using a shader.
80433f No.15472562
>>15469927
If I understand it correctly, I could have only one stripper cable, so snes-scart with csync, and scart bnc without. I think that is how it works, I'm not sure.
6d0260 No.15472569
>>15462072
that's real nice
17eacf No.15473012
>>15471156
>What's wrong with that? Maybe it's not good for day to day use, but you can flip it on for firing up older PC games which relied on the better color.
The last card to have VGA/DVI out was the gtx 980. Modern cards no longer output analogue signals.
d671f3 No.15474075
>>15470397
>not reading the entire post
ae9dc3 No.15474079
>>15471110
Who could have guessed there was so much fur on the SMS
065608 No.15474216
Whats the biggest bestest CRT? i want it for light gun games and my console collection.
i was looking at a 40" Sony TV. weighs like 300lbs. but is there something better? will the flat tube be ok for light gun games?
someone just tell me what to buy. and by "buy" i mean keep an eye out on ebay, faceberg, craigslist, or garage sales for
d671f3 No.15474333
>>15474216
How big is your room, how far from the set will you be sitting?
065608 No.15474426
>>15474333
the room is around 700 square feet. i havnt set up furniture yet. but a light game on a set under 30 inches is fucking miserable.
c4b734 No.15475296
>>15472454
Why wouldn't you use a TV CRT for consoles?
>>15473012
Most of the games I play on this thing can run on a raspberry pi, which has VGA. Even then why do I care what the latest video cards output? What game is worth upgrading my PC for?
d671f3 No.15476999
>>15474426
>700ft^2
>sqrt 700 = about 26ft
Get an upscaler and an LCD. The CRTs that big wouldn't be worth having.
9072cc No.15478702
>>15475296
There are a few good modern games, but nothing you wouldn't be able to run with a average video card. The most demanding game that would be worth it would be Nier Automata.
17eacf No.15481651
>8 hour drive if I want to get someone to repair my CRT
i love my tube tv, but god damn is it hard to get someone to repair these things.
4cecaa No.15481757
>>15478793
This reminds me
>Have old ass vizio vx32l HDTV10A flat screen
>Want to play PS4 on it
>Has overscan issues with the PS4
>No way to disable overscan on the model
>Wii U had no problems with overscan
>Can't even find any info online about its service menu let alone if the service menu would be able to solve it
>Can't use an HDMI to VGA adapter because PS4s will refuse to recognize it
>Only way to bypass that refusal is to fist connect it to an HDMI switch then from the switch to the VGA adapter to the TV
>While in this set up the game will occasionally have significant screen tearing
>Not sure if its an unavoidable side effect of converting, or the result of the cheap HDMI switch or the VGA adapter
d49083 No.15481840
>>15481757
>Can't use an HDMI to VGA adapter because PS4s will refuse to recognize it
The model in my pic includes an HDCP stripper along with the DAC, what DAC are you using?
0ea0c8 No.15481842
>>15481757
can't you adjust the screen size in the PS4?
065608 No.15481865
>>15481842
yes, both resolution/aspect ratio and size.
under settings its under "display"
065608 No.15481886
>>15475296
>Why wouldn't you use a TV CRT for consoles?
rhythm games. fighting games.
17eacf No.15481942
>>15478793
wouldn't this introduce lag, or am I misinformed?
065608 No.15481964
>>15476999
wtf kind of retarded conclusion is that? not helpful at all. how the fuck can a room be too large? maybe i wasn't specific enough…
I already have a 60" LCD in the room with newer consoles and a PC hooked to it as well as other AV equipment. i have a couple smaller ~24" CRT TVs for some of my older consoles. But light gun games are fucking miserable on a TV that small so i'm looking to get something large and put it inside of this massive oak cabinet i have.
i just want to find the largest most reliable consumer CRT i can find. i was looking to get a Sony 40XBR700 or 40XBR800 (or maybe something slightly smaller) with the flat tube/screen. but was also considering one of the very large mitsubishi models with the curved screen but wasnt sure what direction i should go specifically for light gun games.
how is getting an LCD and an upscaler even remotely helpful in this scenario? do you know of an upscaler that will allow light gun games to work on an LCD?
im going to eventually buy an upscaler on the few consoles that are hooked to the LCD i have, but am not sure which consoles should be plugged through it. the consoles on my LCD are xbox 360, PS2, gamecube, N64, PS1, sega saturn, and dreamcast.
I have my genesis, snes, nes, tg16, neo geo on my newer/flat CRT.
Then i have my atari 2600 and an intellevision console hooked to an older CRT hooked up with the "forks".
4cecaa No.15481985
>>15481842
>>15481865
I tried, it doesn't do shit on HDMI input, it works on the VGA input though.
>>15481840
Pic Related
d49083 No.15482153
>>15481942
Some cheaper external DACs do introduce latency, but better ones such as the HDFury in my pic or the Belkin other poster is using function exactly like the ones in older GPUs, though generally without the ability to push some bigger/faster modes (last gen of GPUs with DACs, like GTX 9xx or Rx 2xx, generally had >400MHz DACs, whereas modern external units generally use 180MHz DACs, and rarely go above 350MHz).
>>15481964
His assumption was that you view the TV from halfway across the gigantic room. Direct view CRT doesn't get much bigger than 30", there's just a handful of 35" sets, and the absolute biggest ever made were 45". If you really want a CRT bigger than that, your only option is projectors. Note that while you can get CRT projectors surprisingly cheap, and the image quality is fantastic (since they use triple-monochrome tubes, resolution can be pushed into the stratosphere), they are EXTREMELY finicky, and configuring/running/maintaining them is pretty much a hobby unto itself.
>>15481985
Ah, Belkin B2B137-BLK. That doesn't strip HDCP.
164469 No.15482188
I see so many thrown away CRTs around, it's kind of sad. On my typical 30 minute jog, I see
at least three or four. Usually, I'll see them intact one day, then torn open the next. I'd pick them up and try to do something with them if they sold at all (they don't). I don't have the room to store CRTs in my house, already pushing it with PCs.
17eacf No.15482197
>>15482188
Same. Fucking mexicans in scrap trucks circle my neighborhood hourly & cut into the yolks for the $5 worth of copper in the yolks. they ruined the secondhand game market too. Haven't found a retro game since 2010 in my town. Retro gaming legit made me racist.
bf6fe7 No.15482310
>>15482197
CRTs cause cancer. You might want to avoid them.
17eacf No.15482316
ae9dc3 No.15483207
>>15482188
I picked up three this week. I have a warehouse I am planning to have some fun with once I can get some AC going in it.
164469 No.15484322
>>15483207
Between the ones I see thrown away, and the ones I see on local "please pick up our useless shit for free" pages, I could probably get at least five working ones a week, maybe even ten if I kept a better eye out. It's just not really my business though. Maybe one day I'll warm up to it more. Seems like an absolute waste.
2ac296 No.15484404
>>15482197
ha, fucking this. When I go to my local swap meet there is always some old mexican faggot with boxes of old carts and consoles for however much they can get you for (more if you are white and even more if you are twig/fat with terrible skin).
38e574 No.15488286
Has anyone used those HDMI/DP to VGA adapters for PC CRTs?
Does anyone know if there's quality loss vs a GPU with VGA output and if it's still possible to set all your high refresh rates/custom made resolutions with own timings with those adapters?
There's not a single useful result from search engine in that regards, fucking blows.
>>15482310
Your posts have way higher chance of causing cancer than CRTs, faget
7a926d No.15488318
>>15488286
CRT's are a literal kike invention to make Aryan men have shortsightedness. CRT = Cock Replacement Therapy.
38e574 No.15488337
>>15488318
Incognito Mongol Drawings Exchange Sites such as 8hen is kike invention to make Aryan men such as yourself to act as a distraction, preventing you from reproducing.
575933 No.15488631
>>15482153
So i take it that a sony 40xbr700 or 800 are the way to go? 300lbs of coop light gun game bliss… CRT projections work with light guns?
Thatd be awesome if i was insane.
I just wanted some make/model suggestions for 36"+ CRTs that are good and reliable. maybe some feature recommendations. Reliability/quality being a top priority since moving it may cripple me, leaving wherever i put the TV its permanent location.
38e574 No.15494566
>>15488286
bumping for answers
d49083 No.15496464
>>15488286
Your card sets the mode, the only limit the DAC (external converter's, or onboard older GPUs) imposes is its max bandwidth. Like I said upthread, most GPUs since the 90s had 350-500MHz DACs, whereas most modern external DACs are around 90-150MHz, with the fastest I'm aware of maxing out at ~250MHz. Check your monitor's spec sheet, and a calculator such as the following, to determine if the mode you want fits within both the display's and DAC's limits:
http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl
>buying an external DAC for your CRT, and then using CRU to configure it
Don't, just don't. Use PowerStrip if you're on Windows, use SwitchRes if your on macOS, and if you're on Linux/BSD/etc then pray to the eldritch swarm of writhing ooze responsible for amassing Xorg that you may be granted insight into its maddening vortex of absolute terror, for there is no GUI to save youyou're fucked.
>>15488631
Yes, lightguns work with CRT projectors.
17eacf No.15499992
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Ever wonder how a crt was made?
d49083 No.15501015
>>15499992
I knew the technical procedures on a textbook level, but I never realized how imprecise and low-tech it was on a physical level. I wonder if the tolerances were that low for $2500 monstrosities like the final models of Sony/Mitsubishi/ViewSonic/Nokia flat aperture grille CRTs?
If so, maybe my dream of licensing old tech for a song from those companies, and retooling a line on one of the few remaining CRT factories for a run of awesome gaymur CRTs would be plausible after all.
2695e3 No.15501147
>>15432672
Ima have to ask you what all three of those game's titles are frein
2695e3 No.15501163
>>15501015
Best pic on a crt I've ever seen was a proton, only ever seen one, weighed about a million pounds.
9072cc No.15501656
>>15501015
I think it would be a break-even operation, because as soon as you start producing these high-level CRT's, you lower the price on average and make little profit over all. Additionally, you'd have to heavily improve the power consumption and efficiency, and then you might be able to set up a Philips or Sony production line. Never looked into it really, but it would be really interesting.
d49083 No.15502891
>>15501656
I wouldn't have to get rich, I'd be happy just seeing this tech's potential renewed temporarily while we wait for OLED/MicroLED/PDP/SED/FED/etc to clumsily get their shit sorted out trying to kill LCD.
The only real limits on CRT aside from the obvious one of screen size (internal reflections from screen thickness start being a major problem above ~25") were imposed by the fineness of phosphor deposition/masking, phosphor ignition/decay, and by the sophistication of drive electronics, all of which have advanced considerably since the mid-2000s by non-CRT applications. This would mean greater uniformity between central and edge resolution, shorter necks, sharper pixels, better gamut, higher resolutions, FAR FAR faster refresh, and maybe dynamic sync/beamchasing.
The key requirement, I imagine, would be getting the collective wisdom of all the old companies and maybe even a few pointers from their old engineers, combining it with a degree of insight into how those techniques map to modern advancements, and using that to make something great. Without access to all those old proprietary trade secrets though, I think it would be basically impossible. So this hinges on whether those corporations would be willing to license all the CRT stuff they have zero practical interest exploiting themselves in for a reasonable fee.
>you'd have to heavily improve the power consumption and efficiency
Not for a niche market. Nobody cares about power efficiency whose PC runs a 1kW PSU.
dd8db9 No.15502949
>>15501147
star tropics, chrono trigger and that one game on our banners
38e574 No.15504767
>>15496464
You don't answer my question at all m8.
I've got both CRU and PowerStrip, and I needed to make those resolutions in CRU anyway because PS works like garbage on anything newer than winxp/any setup with multiple monitors.
What I am asking with DAC is that WILL I EVEN BE ABLE TO SET RESOLUTIONS I WANT? Or will DAC just block me from setting any customized timings at all?
d49083 No.15504814
>>15504767
Yes, you will be able to set whatever resolution your GPU supports, but only within the external DAC's bandwidth limit in MHz.
>PS works like garbage on anything newer than winxp
Yeah, somebody needs to make a worthy replacement.
4cecaa No.15505008
>>15481757
>Found the factory menu for the TV
>No option to change anything but color levels
What a shitty TV
38e574 No.15505083
>>15504814
Alright, about DAC clock, is there any way I can calculate what clock should be needed for it based on resolutions I'm using?
Or does pixel clock of the resolution equals needed DAC clock?
c4b734 No.15505144
I'm kinda amazed at how fucking good PVMs look. Even on newer games like Dark Messiah, with the appropriate settings, it looks unbelievable.
d49083 No.15505226
>>15505083
Pixel/dot clock equals DAC clock, yes. Also, while the DAC doesn't care about it, remember your monitor itself has limits on both vertical (Hz) AND horizontal (kHz) sync rate.
b5efd7 No.15506352
>CRTs
Is there anyone in this thread not old enough to be a grandparent?
d49083 No.15506684
>>15506352
>35yo
Only if I were a Mormon
38e574 No.15506793
>>15506352
>not having dual/triple display with your LCDs and a CRT
You've got some technological growing up to do kid, unless you are rich enough to own OLED panels, the only kind of flatscreen that equals CRTs in image quality.
59e621 No.15506949
My old clunker has this blob that randomly appears and disappears in one corner of the screen.
It's just a slight blue, green or yellow discoloration and isn't all that intrusive, but does anyone know what it might be and if it's fixable?
c4b734 No.15507264
>>15506352
>Being underaged
17eacf No.15508966
>>15506949
Color changes along the edge of the screen are usually caused by magnets. Is there something magnetic close to that side of the TV?
d49083 No.15508990
>>15508966
If there's a magnetic/radio source you need to move, degaussing your screen afterward can help.
1cd4be No.15509007
>>15506352
You wipper snappers today don't know what you're missing, CRTs could do non-native resolutions and we used to walk 15 miles in the snow for that superior image quality.
48651b No.15509143
>>15508966
My ID changed.
There's no magnetic sources near it as far as I can tell and this has been an issue since I got it from a kiosk I worked where it had shown horse-racing for 12 hours a day.
I've speculated that it could be some sort of burn-in or heat issue, but that doesn't align with the discoloration appearing and disappearing seemingly at random.
>>15508990
Is there a way to degauss something without one of those coils?
c2dbbf No.15509201
>>15509143
I thought my monitor was dying turned out a conversion cable was defective the sweet 1600x1200
d49083 No.15509630
>>15509143
>Is there a way to degauss something without one of those coils?
Nearly all PC CRTs have a manual degaussing function, either a dedicated button, or somewhere in its menu system.
5d2ab5 No.15509682
>>15432672
>those black levels
you can cut diamonds with my penis right now