/v/ - Video Games

BM is unironically the best one, but I get where you coming from. I wouldn't say 1 has a good story per se, but the atmosphere is top notch, 47 is very cold and professional and the ambient music really amplifies this feeling of "nothing personal". 3 has some really atrocious missions like Bjarkov Bomb and the last mission bit the music and disguise system are good. The only problem with BM is retarded and forgiving AI but in turn the game has countless different possibilities to complete levels. Hitman really became a sandbox with BM.

>>15426500

but it only has one level

dubs

>>15426386

>hitman 2

>best music

Nah, the best music is tied between Hitman 1 and 3. Patricians know this.

>>15426386

>Blood Money is shit

<Contracts has the best missions

What a retarded opinion you have there.

Blood money was way too easy, but the levels where comfy as fuck. The only mission I couldn't get Silent Assassin on effortlessly was the mountain resort, because you have to talk to the bar keep to lure that one douche out of the pool into an isolated area.

Silent Assassins is like the polar opposite though. Game is hard as balls.

>>15426386

>(1) and done

>no argument

Get out.

>>15427191

>you have to talk to the bar keep to lure that one douche out of the pool into an isolated area.

What? Couldn't you just

stand under the glass pool and shoot it, causing him and the 5 hoes in the pool to fall to their deaths in a complete and total freak accident

>>15428981

I didn't know about that. That doesn't alert the crowd?

>>15427115

Layton?

>>15429098

Pretty sure it's just an accident if nobody sees you firing. Accidents don't count against SA rank, do they?

>>15429167

You can get SA rank for shooting the guy in the opera house so I don't think so.

>>15427163

yea contracts butchered the codename 47 missions

>>15429190

Yea you can what you have to do is shoot him right in the head with a sniper rifle the moment the actor puts the blank gun to his head and fires. The game considers it an accident kill. Also I think in blood money you are allowed to shoot 1 person in the head and get silent assassin.

>>15426386

Blood money is the only good one. Hitman 1 & 2 are unplayable while contracts is playable but it feels dead and has no atmosphere.

>>15429195

Not at all of them

>>15429219

>unplayable

Scrubs weren't allowed back in my day

>>15429219

>unplayable

2 is fine. 1 was great at the time, a diamond in the rough.

>>15429225

The controls are shit tier and you can actually see bullets moving for some reason. It awful. Also in hitman 2 I killed two people then wore a disguise and even though I killed all witnesses my cover was still blown because that game is shit tier.

>>15429199

Does it work with any gun? I thought you needed to get the WWI pistol and shoot him with that.

I'm pretty sure you can get multiple headshots in Blood Money and still get SA. Just all of your shots need to be headshots. No misses. I could be wrong though. I breezed through the game using the poison and silenced pistol, and haven't replayed it since.

>>15429231

2 really is a chore though. I only got past the Russian missions before calling it in, just because I have no patience for games these days. I remember one thing I abused is the susp meter goes down as long as you're walking away from AI, even if you walk straight into a fucking wall.

>>15429239

I killed all witnesses my cover was still blown because I'm shit at games

>>15429249

>I killed all witnesses my cover was still blown because I'm shit at games

Fucked up the greentext

>>15429239

In hitman 2 if you stand too close to guards they automatically see through your disguise. Hitman 1 didn't have this I actually think the ai in Hitman 2 was intentional even if it leads to all this buggy shit and guards getting suspicious of you THROUGH FUCKING WALLS

>>15429249

Now I'm thinking you are right but the conditions for shooting people have to be

1. Nobody can hear the gunshot

2. Has to be a headshot

3. Nobody can find the body

4. Has to be a contract target

>>15429167

no blood money is actually fucked for this reason in that it's actually too easy to get these unlegit SA ranks because you can effectively kill just about anybody if you want to. You can have a gun, use the gun to hold a guard hostage, knock out guard, throw him off a railing, take his disguise, hide the body then profit accident kill and disguise.

Blood money is the best one

>>15429287

>You can have a gun, use the gun to hold a guard hostage, knock out guard, throw him off a railing, take his disguise, hide the body then profit accident kill and disguise.

If you're a retard, maybe. Most of the time, it's possible to acquire a disguise without knocking out anybody, as they're just lying around in certain spots on the map. However, even if you knock somebody out, it'll count as a civilian kill unless you use the non-lethal serum, or you punch them in the fucking face, but that's noisy. The point is that you can't just go around knocking everyone out cause it will eventually take a toll on your score. On top of that, you only need maybe 3 different disguises per level, and that's being generous, given that most of the time you'll only ever need 1.

So, what you described in your post is counter intuitive at best and fucking retarded at worst.

>>15429355

It really isn't once you start sneaking around high intensity areas.

Say you want to remove one guard from rotation. Create an accident. Say you want to remove more from rotations, Create more accidental deaths.

This is why it's so easy to get silent assassin on alot of the levels in blood money because 1. You are allowed to use a gun to knock out guards indefinitely, hide their bodies, they never wake up, and unless they see you before you grab them they don't count as witnesses.

What I'm saying is that you use this for more than making accidents. It makes the game really fucking easy once you realize all you need is ANY gun to get silent assassin on just about any level. The only levels that force you to change this is the ones with the metal detectors, but you can easily just stash guns between metal detectors.

>>15429388

>You are allowed to use a gun to knock out guards indefinitely, hide their bodies, they never wake up, and unless they see you before you grab them they don't count as witnesses.

Is this real? I got Silent Assassin without even trying and I didn't know it was a thing. I just used the knockout syringe for low security then high security areas.

>>15429355

you are forgetting about the option that you can just use a gun as a "knockout syringe" indefinitely and it never runs out. The only thing you seem to be missing is that the target CANNOT see you before you grab him from behind. So you have unlimited syringes I just don't think you understood how the "Use npc as hostage" feature is broken as fuck.

>>15429392

yea the game is incredibly easy to get SA but once you start playing on the really high difficulty levels the guards line of sight and sensitivity to bullshit(well these faggots see through walls and they have been doing it since hitman 2) I just found a bunch of ways to cheese particularly annoying guards. They always know to put a couple "High Intensity" guards in certain escape routes and rotating around targets and during target rotations so essentially making them disappear forever so I don't have to deal with "Can this dumb NPC ruin this because his rotation is out of syncronization oh well don't have to worry about that anymore because I can just knock him the fuck out"

>>15427191

Hitman 2 Silent Assassin is hard, but you can get away with a few tricks like using the map to cancel your animations, this is notable on pick locking, the india level where you have to kill the doctor with a scalpel (you can cancel that long animation), knocking people out with the bottle thing, then safe running by holding the sprint button and tapping forward. If you get spotted or the guard is being a fucking retard you can just run around and choke him to death with your fibre wire but you lose silent assassin rating.

Then the difficulty drops a lot, but you still have to be very perfect on professional without any saves other than awarded saves.

>>15429411

i think the lock pick glitch is in all of them even blood money

>>15429409

I played on the highest difficulty and I don't remember guards seeing through walls. Maybe they heard me do something but never straight up see through walls.

>>15429422

I've had guards randomly run down stairs open series of doors and find me in the middle of something when nobody around me noticed anything of note. I don't know exactly what's going on but you can also tell that the dog on the porn mansion mission can also see through walls and the little shit counts as a witness if it's alerted.

>>15429422

it could be due to inconsistency of sound but I have had so many moments when I'm in the middle of getting rid of something and someone just knows exactly what I'm doing for some reason and just runs in and does the standard "I'm a hitman guard and I'm mad at you"

>>15429397

>>15429388

Alright, maybe you have a point, but I just don't understand why anyone would want to play the game in this way, outside of maybe some kind of speedrunning strategy.

man I used to spend so much time on the hitman forum back in middle school

Best music and atmosphere was Hitman 2

>>15429239

i can't remember if it was hitman 2 or contracts, maybe both, but sometimes people aren't dead if they are laying on the ground. i don't know the game explanation, maybe faking dead or just critically injured. either way just because a target is laying on the ground after you shoot them doesn't mean they are dead. you have to put a round in their heads to make sure, anon. come on, every professional knows this

>>15426386

HM1: Barely played it but mission design was shit

HM2: Nice story although generic and way too "personal vendetta" for my taste. I prefer more pro assassination stuff on shitty people

HM3: Best atmosphere.

BM: Best Hitman game as a whole despite individual pieces of the game being weaker.

Absolution: Bad. Decent game to just plow through but not something that you want to replay.

HITMAN™: Good. Only issue is the unfinished story that will probably be tied up with Hitman 2 but mission design is the best and grandest in scale it has ever been. Nice new musical style, potential to be the best story in the series, nice atmosphere, good gameplay. Only thing I dislike is the scoring system, which is a major step down from both Blood Money, Hitman 2/3 and even Absolution. Just as an example, trespassing and being caught has the same amount of score deduction as shooting someone, knocking someone out and trespassing. Also lacks the titles from the older games, like psychopath or knifeman or whatever.

>>15426386

Does anyone else think Hitman is almost good? I think if they could just change the unlock system and improved the enemy AI, especially so it reacts to blood pools, which makes the garrote pointless outside of it not being considered an illegal or suspicious item, it could be much better. I also hope that the sequel will be less scripted, but it looks like that won't be the case.

Oh yeah, and the new game is going to combine season 1 as well. Plus, any one foolish enough to buy season 1 like me will get the redux for free.

>>15432615

Yes. 2016. God, the names are confusing. If they improve the AI, I would be more than satisfied. I was also thinking about a feature where if a person sees you in different disguises, then they'd report you.

>those low-framerate animations

Jesus fuck.

>>15432615

To be honest the first one was called Hitman: Codename 47, so there is effectively no other game in the series just called "Hitman".

So I pirated Hitman today and played a little, the tutorial and the first two real mission. After turning off all the retard-proof shit that helps you the game did start getting a lot more enjoyable. The second map especially had surprisingly a lot more ground to explore than I expected, but I am not sure if I figured out the point of it all. Though it had some annoying shit like I was on the roof and wanted to go to the other side of the roof, but couldn't just because an invisible wall was blocking me.

I am not sure how to feel about the disguising. It is definitely not as retarded as it used to be in Absolute, though. I mean, to an extend it does make sense that people would recognise you as an unfamiliar face, depending on the setting, but also it wouldn't work too good with the game. Maybe the way they nurfed it with only someone people being able to recognise you is the good middle point, but maybe not.

The AI being dumb, well, I think plenty was said about that in the thread.

I am not sure how I feel about the different assassination methods either. They don't feel as random as previous games. They are often like some scripted chain of events. And I realize ultimately everything is scripted, but the flow of it doens't always feel natural enough. Honestly having the opportunities and shit turned on doesn't only dumb down the game, it takes a lot away of it. There is so much that it is easy to miss if you are just moving from one check point to another. Also it is kind of dumb how the target NPCs basically don't run away no matter what, so as long as you are no death there is no way to fail the mission. Does being seeing on the cameras at least make you more likely to be seen on other maps? I would guess not.

Sucks a little I have no ratings, because I am playing pirated and so offline, but it is easy to imagine what Silent Assassin is.

The optimization is not optimal, but then again partly I might have to blame Nvidia for that. I still can play a lot of games on 60fps with my gtx780, but this one I can't. Neither can I The Witcher 3 for example. Low or Ultra or whatever, it just doesn't matter, it is all the same. But put the framerate to 60 and it all goes to shit. But then again CDPR did say originally the game will be optimized for 30fps and Hitman also runs at 30fps on the consoles. Though I know that the 9xx were able to run The Witcher 3 at 60 just fine. Well, I might be buying a new GPU soonish. No, I don't want to get an RTX, though.

Denuvo was removed from Hitman and it doesn't seem like it is coming back for Hitman 2. And the fact they give you the first game for free is also pretty nice. The only problem is if it is going to be always online again. I mean, I get some of the online options maybe can be fun and stuff, but it doesn't have to be attached to the single player as well and take away the ratings just because you play offline. But I guess the excuse is to not cheat in the meme online rankings or something? I might actually consider buying it and it would be the first game I have bought in a long time, but only if I can pirate it to try it out first. WB supposedly don't own the studio, so maybe there is hope for no Denuvo. I am itching to buy something after Yakuza 0 cucked with Denuvo.

>>15426386

>Blood Money

>Not the best one in the whole series

This is low quality bait.

>>15426386

best music is Hitman Contracts

Hitman: Absolution is only fun if you play it like a John Wick simulator.

They changed rating system

jesper kyd did a briliant job, 2+3 are my favs.

bm was a bit too easy