/v/ - Video Games

Tell me now that you have read every single EULA for every single game you have ever downloaded, and I'll believe you.

Hard mode: don't lie

I'm not defending them, but you seem genuinely surprised that people are stupid and lazy.

Not trying to defend the botnet, but if they can't store that information then they can't make sure your account isn't being used to download games into a million computers.

People don't, no. Spics do however.

>>15423796

Yeah, EA pulls a lot of shit, but an online service that doesn't store your IP address is pretty much impossible.

>>15423768

Doesn't matter, it's still illegal activity that you could take them to court over if you could prove that they have stored this private information in a database or something.

>>15423796

That's DRM.

>>15423786

I honestly don't think that part was there before. I usually check out the consent for data sections. I quit Blizzard for the exact same reason and some more since they also required access to one's social media AND to be able to ban you for out of game behavior.

>>15423796

And what if it did when all their fucking games are online?

>>15423903

>le i have nothing to hide retard

>>15423768

of course they do; almost nobody actually reads the contract, anon

>>15423768

This >>15423843 Still better than denuvo even though it's shitty, but thats what happens when you get rid of physical media.

>>15423809

Every fucking one plays football besides Americans. They play concussionball or tall negroid throw ball into KFC bucket.

Every website does the sam thing, how do you think accounts work?

>>15423820

>what is GOG

IP storing is wholly unnecessary beyond what the underlying protocol requires during the downloading of the game's files and >multiplayer interactions. Consumers should be able to validate their downloads from wherever the fuck they want by using designated login credentials.

IP mining is for control freaks and the only justifiable use they might see is being sold off to third party advertisers, which is disgusting in itself.

The legality of modern EULAs is debatable.

Reminder that depending on what software you installed potentially you agreed to be an indentured servant.

Yes really

>>15423768

All modern proprietary consumer software does this, for example anything from google which I'm sure 99% here use. There is just so much money in spying on you it would be stupid not to do it, and you goys don't care about your data, only about it being convenient and free.

>>15423768

Not people. Cattle. They don't "agree". They simply click "yes" because they were told to do so.

>>15423796

You talk like if that was a bad thing at all. Companies are slaves. They have no saying in anything.

>>15424144

My favorite EULA was the one for a shareware game where after the boilerplate the guy wrote something to the effect of "this game is shit, and I was a dumbass for expecting anyone to mail me money for it, here is the serial: XXXX-XXXX-XXXX". I played the game for months before reinstalling once and scrolling down the EULA for kicks.

**Game is Mutant Chicken Races. Its moderately amusing."

>they can't make sure your account isn't being used to download games into a million computers.

How about checking if the ACCOUNT is downloading the same game 5000 times in an hour you dense fuck?

Every modern application under the sun collects this kind of data. No, that doesn't make it right, I'm just saying that nobody should be surprised by this. Anyway, these legal documents care more about making sure it's clear that 1) you don't own nothing goy, 2) you have no rights, 3) you cannot sue us for any reason whatsoever (e.g. no class action lawsuits, we want to handle any disputes outside of court), and 4) you agree to behave under our code of conduct or we will terminate your account.

With that in mind, you as an individual are not particularly interesting; they collect data and build a profile on you so they can refine their game and its various components to the lowest common denominator, and then also possibly sell that information to third parties so they can then advertise bullshit to you. These corporate entities can't really do any more than your local government can to infringe on your rights. Worry more about how da gubmint is spying on you, it's a more important concern.

>>15423786

>buying games

>following copyright

lol fag

>>15424107

> and devices ID

[citation needed]

>>15423768

>People actually agree to this?

The more important question is why do people keep playing a shitty soccer game with zero gamplay?

>>15424107

IPs are hashed here though and I can use VPNs

>MUH IP ADDRESS WTF AIFHAOUGFOASGV

nigger your IP address, private, public, ect. wont reveal shit. plus it's hashed so quit your bitching

People actually aren't aware of this?

Hypothetically if you had the time and money and good lawyer, could you circumvent the installer to avoid the EULA, install it anyways, then submit a FOIA request to see that they have in fact stored your information without consent?

>>15424206

Except the government doesn't need to spy on anyone to ruin everything for everyone.

If you're offline it's not an issue.

If you're going online how do you think they're going to identify you as a player? They need your IP address, obviously, because they need to send you data, and your device ID, since there might be more than one device on that IP.

I'm not defending EA, they're complete and utter shit, but saying they're evil for telling you they need an IP and a MAC address?

You're either ignorant or a troll.

>>15423768

I have no clue what device id could mean, very vague but ip address, you're already connected to their service.

>>15425890

MAC address.

>reading the eula

>caring about privacy

If you don't have anything to hide it doesn't matter goy

>>15423768

OP why are you so dumb?

>>15423768

>Information they actually need

Shocker.

>>15423786

50% of the time

>>15423768

Nigger, EULAs often ask you to waive the right to sue them should they fuck you, and you're spooked by an IP log?

>>15426596

The ID lock is what is unnecessary and it's not the inevitable IP tracking that is what I am worried about but the IP STORING.

>EULAs often ask you to waive the right to sue them

This "often" is the case, but it's specifically scarier that you can't sue them for storing your personal data than just suing them because niggerball simulator 9.001 offended you with inaccuracies of some colombian's character's bio.

>>15423786

No, I simply do not purchase software and have enough lawdogs.

>>15426853

EULAs are not legal documents.

Lol kiddo if you connect to a server they have your IP.

>>15423903

>letting people sell your identity

Guess what else your IP address and device ID are associated with? Your disgusting porn taste and your offensive politcal ideas. You're on the list and we'll get you soon you disgusting tranny loving nazi.

Just about every EULA does that. Nothing new.

>>15423768

it feels so good to be a pirate that cracks everything and instals all his games in an isolated hardrive with no intenrnet conection

>>15423768

>If you use the Application offline, this data will be stored on your device and transmitted to EA when your device connects to the internet.

>>15426902

>IP Address is your identity

Even 8chan logs your IP address, or at least it used to with the Sunshine system. As far as spyware goes, this is tame as shit.

People do agree to submit themselves to kernel-infecting EasyAntiCheat, though. Let that sink in.

>>15423768

People don't agree to EULAs, they click the button that says "I agree to the EULA" without actually expecting anybody to seriously read it, because it's written in legalese rather than plan language. No court expects the average citizen to read or parse legalese, and thus anything written in legalese is thus not binding to anybody but lawyers.

>>15437777

>>15423768

Nobody reads it.

>>15423768

i'm perfectly ok with both those things, i had to stop using the bnet client when they asked you to agree to accessing non-game files on the pc. uninstalled and never looked back.

i removed steam when they got caught hashing dns records but i've recently started using it again on a vm.

>>15430295

i find the eula's fairly easy to read, they can be really long and padded with things you don't care about.

>>15426994

only in america

>>15426902

they can also both be easily spoofed but it's information they need to have access to for online games to run. use a stable vpn and a vm and it really doesn't even give them information about you.