13e06c No.15409679
Now featuring Maverick, whose ability is to use his blowtorch to cut holes in (reinforced) walls, although everybody uses it to draw dicks or swastika's on the walls, which is kind of amusing after Ubi implementing an autoban chat filter previous season. Now featuring Clash, a loud negress with cancer who is the only defending shield op and likes to be a cunt by peeking with her fucking shield, which can also taze you if you get too close. At least she can't melee with it.
Also, EMP Grenades don't destroy cameras any more but merely temporarily disable them, Shock Drones make slightly more noise, Hereford Base has been reworked to be less constrained and shit, and joining one second before a match starts before you can pick an op won't mean you automatically pick Recruit, but an op you already own will get automatically picked instead. Also, for the next season you'll need to give Ubisoft your telephone number if you want to continue playing on Ranked. Have fun with that.
7254eb No.15409684
>>15409679
yeah not liking this update so much. the machine pistols really got whacked hard.
fc6226 No.15409691
>>15409679
>although everybody uses it to draw dicks or swastika's on the walls
How long until the french cucks ban you for it?
e0c90f No.15409709
>>15409679
>Also, for the next season you'll need to give Ubisoft your telephone number if you want to continue playing on Ranked. Have fun with that.
For real?
7254eb No.15409713
91ce73 No.15409808
>Also, EMP Grenades don't destroy cameras any more but merely temporarily disable them,
how long do they stay disabled? Obviously this is an attempt to make it so dokkebai gets more opportunity to hack cams
5154f8 No.15409817
>>15409808
>nerfing thatcher more just to give dokki a chance
This is sad. They should give him an extra grenade.
7ea166 No.15409822
>>15409709
>>15409713
Not entirely true. You're supposed to, but there are ways to do the authentication without a mobile. Source: I did it because I don't own a mobile phone.
91ce73 No.15409835
>>15409817
well lots of cams get broken in the process of thatcher clearing shocks/jammers/etc. which likely discourages dokki pickrate. It won't solve the fact most players break cameras on reflex when entering, especially on flank routes. How i feel about this depends on just how long the camera stays disabled
>What about you /v/? Do you find yourself feeling more and more cynical/uninterested in new video games?
Inclined to agree because there are so many electronics on the field now
f32707 No.15410066
>>15409679
Clash is fucking broken.
>hey, 3 speed is a giant factor for the balancing, many ops are picked purely because of it, what can we do to change that outside of completely dumpstering their gadgets and guns?
>let's add an operator with slow!
Ignoring the fact that slow is one of the most ubnfun mechanics (and this is a fps so even more so); this literally buffs 3-speeds, right now, other than getting to her from behind, the only option is to melee her shield, slowing everyone by 50% still makes 3 speeds the best at dealing with clash, slowing everyone to same speed ALSO makes 3 speeds the best as they can run to the clash once her slow ends and melee her unlike the fatboys.
Her smg is fucking bullshit and nobody is falling for ubi calling it a "secondary". Not only that but from what I've played she can switch to it completely silently. Montagne, who also has a full-body shield, has a very loud sound-effect when collapsing it, and he only has a pistol and he is an attacker, who should have better gadgets and his shield is not see-through, which makes it harder for allies to peek from behind him. Clash also seems quieter than all other shields in general.
Additionally, meleeing her barely works. It only exposes her from waist down which is the least damaging area. It lasts like a second, half of which an atracker spends on melee recovery and she keeps her shield expanded and in hands, just a little bit to the right, which means that if she turns 30deg to the left, she is still basically covered, can't wait for macros. There are no counters, her "counters" ubi showed are fucking trash. Zofia's grzmot creates same stagger as a melee which is not only way less than the regular effect on all other ops, it's not enough to switch back to a gun to shoot, and if you grzmot in close distance you're gonna grzmot yourself, 50% recovery doesn't help. Capitao is a fucking joke and I have no fucking idea why he was as a counter, his bolts bounce off of shield, and even shen shot on ground she can just walk out of it, damaged but who fucking cares, she hasa shield. Idk if she is a 100% kill with 2 bolts, but basically wasting 75% of his usefulness, all the while being exposed as fuck holding his dick in the wind to maybe kill 1 person on enemy team, when that 1 person has to be out of position (nobody to kill cap while he pumps his shitty xbow) is fucking laughable.
6ee998 No.15410072
I thought they would break the meta quite a bit but that really wasn't the case. I must admit though, I no longer feel safe in the objective room due to Maveric. Clash is more annoying than anything and I haven't had any real problems with her.
b1fde8 No.15410260
>>15409679
>Also, for the next season you'll need to give Ubisoft your telephone number if you want to continue playing on Ranked. Have fun with that.
You can just use an authentication app that doesn't need a mobile number.
Haven't played against Clash or Maveric all that much. But Clash is definitely really abuseable because of her shield. I've seen people counter her with capitao's fire bolt. But that's the only good counter I've seen so far that doesn't involve throwing grenades behind her. Honestly Marveric seems like the most balanced of the two.
db74d0 No.15410330
>>15409679
>>15409684
>>15409709
>>15409713
>>15409808
>>15409817
>>15410260
http://archive.is/A8dqw
if you continue to play the game after acknowledging this you are what's wrong with the industry, fuck off with your pozzed dumbed down trash
7254eb No.15410864
>>15410330
oh cry me a river.
db74d0 No.15410885
>>15410864
>yes daddy ubisoft, fuck me harder, ban me for wrongthink and steal my wallet while you're at it
are you a paid shill? i find it hard to believe one could be so subjugated
7254eb No.15410919
>>15410885
They're a multi million dollar company that is subsidized by the canucks, and this game has a steady player base that routinely buys the season passes. I already own the game and I am well past the point of getting a refund of some sort. My (and collectively /v/'s) actions hold no weight on what happens in this industry. So I'm going to do what I want.
8ec066 No.15410994
>>15409679
>Also, for the next season you'll need to give Ubisoft your telephone number if you want to continue playing on Ranked.
What the fuck. What's the justification for that cancer? More toxicity whining? Just how retarded are they going to get.
>>15409751
My God. What's "her" story anyway?
5d56ed No.15411000
7254eb No.15411003
>>15410994
She fights da ebil rayciss.
db74d0 No.15411243
>>15410919
>My (and collectively /v/'s) actions hold no weight on what happens in this industry
this is the shittiest line of thinking possible, things eventually change when you speak out against evils as opposed to not only defending said evils but wallowing in their shit. drumpf getting elected would have been impossible if his fanbase said "fuck it we'll never win :(((" and gave up like whiny bitches as opposed to fighting for what they believed was right
>So I'm going to do what I want.
this isn't a defense for your irreversibly shit taste, might as well play overwatch while you're at it
91ce73 No.15411317
>>15410994
>My God. What's "her" story anyway?
she was a riot cop who fought DA RACISSSSSTS. that's pretty much it. Even ela and dokkebairs blown out stories still had them put through various special tactics training to be the best ninja in the ninja academy
91ce73 No.15411545
>>15410260
>You can just use an authentication app that doesn't need a mobile number.
any examples? I don't care to give my number to anyone but I kiiiiiiinda want that free thermite hat that comes with it
1beeb5 No.15411654
>>15410330
get a mic and call people nigger like that
7254eb No.15411938
>>15411243
>im-FUCKING-plying trump has or will bring any change
wew.
460b53 No.15411969
>>15410066
If she is holding tight spots or in a small room alone just frag/stun grenade her. If she is with friend, then yeah she is fucking broken and the best you can do is to flank that sheboon and hope she is not with friends.
Maverick is fun though. Making a hole quietly then blow heads up with silenced M4.
173e7c No.15411998
>Mfw doc is fucking amazing this update with the bullet spread change
I'm fucking mad though that they made the SMG11 completely worthless
7254eb No.15412050
>>15411969
I really like how maverick's guns look and sound, but I'll have to wait a week to know for sure.
38f8d5 No.15412170
>>15409751
i keep pointing out in casual her face looks retarded
f32707 No.15412561
>>15411998
Doc/rook are great with maverick's holes
6a1e27 No.15413030
>maverick
If used right he is an awesome attacker, fuck I can’t do bandit tricks safetly anymore…I can’t actually jam with mute safety either becasue he still makes a hole and basically have a peekers advantage every time
>maverick counters
Hope your cav is actually good at his job and catch him before he makes anything useful otherwise get a cover and wait for his holding
>nigger
Clash is broken as fuck. The melee action is not working as well with other shield ops because it stays extended and still cover half her body and you don’t have any time to actually get back to the gun and shoot the zaps slow down aim speed as Ela cones and fucking hell hope you don’t find a rusher spawn peekers with her in secure OBJ…. it’s not broken like with lion or Ela addition but surely ain’t working either….
>niggers counter
Capitao arrows are fine but still doesn’t make enough dmg to actually be worth using
Maybe is a glitch but hibana completely brakes the shield…like there are the holes in it.
Thatcher
Ain’t working on the shield
Stuns
She just back in a corner and stays still. Yuppydo you wasted a granade
I was just starting to learn villa map and Hereford is fucking huge now, the layout is similar but different that much I actually get confused sometimes, back to learn it I guess…. lucky the out best map back agains
>play favela
>they didn’t fix jack shit so all peeking spot still works
>newfags don’t know the map becasue joined after velvet shield so you have always 15-0 on that map
Feels good to be thermite yet again
It’s just me or having an acog makes your aim be more sensible to the kickback? I feel that if I use a red dot or a reflex I can 1tap people while using and acog I get to basically use half a mag or a mag to kill them
any word on twitch get back her zaps to a suitable ammount with all those gadgets now? Fuck if I actually play hiding and do my job I can clear either kap traps, gadget or cams… fuck whoever decide to decrease the ammount instead of nerf the dmg done
43dbb6 No.15413048
>For some reason the team killers on ps4 have started to die down so try playing with randos again because nobody i know plays shooters anymore
>Extract the hostage
>Okay so i'll go with shotgun demo guy with smoke grenades and then i'll g-
>Some MLG pro streamer screamer has ran in, gun jumped everyone with a meme loadout in full croatian flag attire screaming in Eastern europe gutterspeak on the mic and kills the whole building and gets out with the hostage in under a minute
>Everyone just tries to vote kick him so next round he just kills anyone who voted to kick him and does the same.
Technically i was getting easy renown, but thats not really the experience i want from R6 y'know?
83cb00 No.15413063
>>15409679
I come back to siege and now there's a sheboon chasing me around outside shooting lasers. Complete joke.
>>15411998
I knew it, fucking faggots. I turned a corner on a oblivious Mira, aimed right at the cow and it decides to spray an outline around her.
83cb00 No.15413082
>>15410330
I brought it preowned so they didn't get a cent from me
60e626 No.15413286
>>15411938
He didn’t of his own will, but you can’t deny that the left hasn’t been this bold or vitriolic in decades
43dbb6 No.15413361
>get teamkilled
>check player
>rick and morty avatar
>every single time
So it was bad before but when did the boomer meme queens take over?
91ce73 No.15414480
Newp hereford is pretty wild, only played it a few times but genuinely got lost on it. Clash is really fucking annoying to say the least
3cd7b5 No.15414527
>>15413030
From my experience you can't 1v1 another enemy as nigger, since you can't switch to your secondary fast enough and you even if you zap an enemy they can still chase and melee you.
7254eb No.15414606
>>15414480
new hereford is a fucking fever dream.
>>15414527
In my experience if you lose sight of her for just a sec by rounding a corner or something then she'll whip her pistol out and dome you.
91ce73 No.15414633
>>15414606
>is a fucking fever dream.
I figure I'll get used to it but some of the zones are insane, there is an insane amount of open space on the third floor with several windows, I'd say it seems like a bitch to defend but clash will just runnout with some one and force the enemy team to scramble anyway
8b71f5 No.15422458
>Maybe i'll try a game
>Hostage defence
>Okay i'll pick castle and here we go, i'll just reinforce this wa-
>Bullets spray over entire team
>Over mic some tween screaming in greek or italian with a radio blasting in the background going "JYAJYAJYAJYAJYYA[INCOMPREHENSIBLE EURO GUTTERSPEAK]"
>Is instantly vote kicked for team killing
>match ends
>back to menu
is this game the worst playerbase in the world? i literally have no worse experience to compare to?
ad5346 No.15422573
>>15411243
Why aren't you emailing Ubisoft about their always-online games and heavy-handed moderation RIGHT NOW, anon? What are YOU doing to change the industry?
ad5346 No.15422608
>>15413048
You mean you DIDN'T buy the game just to see some faggot with no life (and that's something coming from us) whore for attention?
47838d No.15422750
>>15410066
you don't fight her unless it's a 1v1 or you are pigpiling her. I've gotten alot of grenade kills based off clash because people love to hide around her.
That's how this works if you haven't figured that out don't be stupid. If you see clash just rotate there is no point in fighting her unless she wants it. That's the sad state of shield characters in shooting games though and the reason why they should not ever exist. They essentially have priority over everything so the only way to avoid that factor is to literally avoid them. If you think about the concept of blitz he is on his face a broken character. The best CQC character in the game, one of the best pistols in the game, and a broken ass flashbang on his shield.
When a blitz is close to you you have 2 options. You can run and maybe get away but 80 percent of the time you will get cornered, shot in the back, or iced by his teammates.
Or you can fight him which is a battle of 50/50s
He can hipfire you to death with luck and if you don't reach him in time you die, His melee has priority over standard melee attacks so if you are to attack blitz you get into a 50/50 guessing game whether he's gonna flash or melee you. At distance you can't fight him because once again he'll just hold a smart angle on a doorway making it impossible to kill him whilst he lines up his crosshairs and drops his shield using peekers advantage to get easy shots on you. Since blitz has 3 options which are "Shoot, Melee, or Flash then kill" He has overwhelming priority over literally everything and since they buffed the fuck out of his runspeed nitro cells are no longer 100 percent on this fuck.
The counter to clash is literally just "Use your fucking brain for one minute" as opposed to blitz which is "Ambush him when he doesn't expect it or get lucky during a 50/50 mixup"
Clash is nowhere near as broken as blitz is as a character. You just have to kill most of the team then isolate her which is so much easier to do on Attack because Attack dictates the pace of the match and where the fights take place. Since blitz is an attacker he is much more broken in the way he functions.
47838d No.15422774
>>15414606
>In my experience if you lose sight of her for just a sec by rounding a corner or something then she'll whip her pistol out and dome you.
yea but how exactly are you losing sight of the biggest character in the game that's also a screaming nigger? I mean if you are getting into those 1 second 3 kill gunfights I can understand losing track of her but generally when you fight a clash they just stand around. The only effective measure of "Putting shield away and doming you" is if she gets behind cover, puts the shield away, then peeks you. Otherwise it's far too slow to rely on for kills. I'm guessing that you spend far too much time not aiming down your sights. If you spent more time Aiming down sights instead of just walking around you would realize that the clash has literally 0 priority when it comes to peeking you from her shield. Just put your sights right on her and she cannot do anything. Of if she runs behind cover and puts the shield away to return fire just play the standard peeking game with the slow bitch. Her lethality is sup par at best.
1efb36 No.15422793
Uninstalled this pozzed shit after operation chimera and never looked back. Feels good. Fuck ubisoft.
>>15411938
This
13e06c No.15423726
>>15422750
>If you think about the concept of blitz he is on his face a broken character. The best CQC character in the game, one of the best pistols in the game, and a broken ass flashbang on his shield.
Yes, that why he dominates every game he's in. Try actually playing as him for once instead of whining about it, and you'd see why it ain't easy.
His shield doesn't grant full protection, if he's sprinting at you his legs will be exposed which make him killable within one second depending on your aim, and if he's crouching you can still get some bullets through the top right of his shield where his gun is poking through or rotate around him to get him from the sides. It's very situation dependent as his legs are exposed in areas like hallways where he can't break line of sight as easily and will gets his legs torn off if he tries to rush you, but in close quarters you want to avoid a direct confrontation and preferably open up extra holes.
Also, a (smart) Blitz can be nowhere as aggressive when he's outnumbered, instead of some dumbfuck who rushes in and flashes some guy before getting killed by another defender hiding behind a corner. Blitz is hell on earth against roamers, it's why on old Hereford I always used to breach from the highest floor as Blitz to clear out any roamers, but roamers have the advantage of being able to ambush him in a more favorable position since Blitz' stomping can be heard across the map. Take in account defender gadgets and traps which can slow his rush down, and basically the only time Blitz can give you any trouble is if every defender is isolated. Even Montagne can be dangerous when you only keep it at 1v1s. I once nailed a starting 1v5 clutch on Plane as Montagne because they all came at me one at a time, even though everyone has had one match where Montagne is the last surviving attacker while the remaining defenders gang up on him daring him to unextend his shield.
13e06c No.15423975
>>15423726
Also, could Mute's jammer always prevent Blitz flashbangs? First time that's ever happened to me.
7254eb No.15425722
>just got banned for 2 hours for saying /\/igger in chat
This is just fucking ludicrous. Wake me from this hell.
>>15422774
>The only effective measure of "Putting shield away and doming you" is if she gets behind cover, puts the shield away, then peeks you
Yes, this is what I'm referring to. You round the corner expecting her to just be sitting there tazing you but she gets her pistol out instead. She's not game breaking(though with an ally trailing her it can be pretty frustrating cause of the visual effect of getting tazed).
38f8d5 No.15425738
>>15409691
>playing with faggot streaming asshats
437a3a No.15425792
>>15412170
ahh so you were the nigger who called her a monkey
7254eb No.15425824
>>15425792
That could be literally anyone. No one likes the way clash looks. I find it hard to believe anyone even at ubisoft did.
1966de No.15425830
That's funny and all but…
If you're playing a game just to draw dicks on the wall, what the fuck are you doing with your life?
7254eb No.15425834
>>15425830
Well I don't know man, splatoon sold gang busters so there must be something to it.
2bb55c No.15425935
>>15422458
I bet it was kids room in house and you were fucking reinforcing the walls on the side
you deserve the TK fucking noob
91ce73 No.15425986
>>15425935
the only issue with that form of disciplining the team is they can't tell if they acted on a bad meta like reinforcing kids room, or they're just getting griefed, should at least try to hop on mic and say 'woah don't reinforce that bro". I'd also rather have my entire team alive with some less than ideal reinforcements than be down a man or two over a misunderstanding
>setup, ask a mira 3 fucking times if they want their walls half reinforced or not, no response
>whatever, leave it open and watch it myself
>a newer player goes to reinforce it and the mira player shoots him, the guy he was probably stacked with shoots mira, random guy on team gets in on the action and shoots that guy
>mexican standoff between the remaining 3 teammates while attackers laugh at us from drones
38f8d5 No.15426059
Fuze recruit shield and tachanka kap master race
38f8d5 No.15426073
>>15426067
>he doesn't main tank wit the pillow shotgunnu
0c4883 No.15426079
>>15413286
>left
>right
>falling for babby level divide and conquer strategies
c5ba98 No.15426087
>>15410864
Go back to reddit you nigger
7254eb No.15426099
>>15426087
Am I sullying your oh so magnificent board faggot?
0c4883 No.15426156
>>15426099
not really, this wasnt a thread deliberately made to invite a divide and conquer shitting contest between people who take themselves way too seriously so they cant even sage because if as many people as possible dont see their latest stinky turd of a post they will just die.
instead theres people talking about video game balance. you have a thread with anons talking about actual game mechanics and strategy despite attempts to coerce them into doing otherwise. this is the good autism
2bb55c No.15426695
>>15425986
I fully agree with you, before operation health shooting someone would make you see the mistake or at least tell you 3-5 times before shooting and sometimes a warning shot before the TK now people don’t actually want to learn the game but just meme it or play the current (((meta))) saw on ELS or their favorite twitch cuck….now if you TK someone just expect to be killed as well or if the teammates gets why you will die in the next round.
2bb55c No.15426709
Anyone have that Russian video about recruit rush?
6a1e27 No.15428443
>>15427963
Yep. Cheers anon
47838d No.15428597
>>15426695
the "meta" at this point has just gone full retard since chimera. The Meta is basically just "Play your best characters or a utility that you need on this map and stay alive"
Characters like jackal/dok/lion etc. break the meta unless you are playing on a level above platinum(I can't speak too much on diamond play because I'm not that good)
In platinum you basically play just like everyone else except obviously everyone in platinum is better at game fundamentals like prefiring, peeking, getting headshots, and utilizing utility to open up holes in the enemies strategy.
>>15425986
If you are playing casual stop caring about winning, k/d. The only point of casual is to just practice on live targets. I play more casual than ranked anyways but this is how you should view it. I just know you are playing alot of cas because you said "Don't reinforce kids room". House is a broken ass map hence why it's only in casual. Hell on casual most of the time I only reinforce the "Major" walls or hatches(examples like the snowmobile basement garage door on chalet). Even in platinum level matches I just see people who don't maximize usage their defensive utilities or reinforcements and we still win rounds all the time just based on kills.
47838d No.15428606
>>15423726
>>15423726
I have played as him he is a gimmick character like cav except he takes literally 0 skill he's the most broken character in the entire game.
You are so fucking wrong about this
>His shield doesn't grant full protection, if he's sprinting at you his legs will be exposed which make him killable within one second depending on your aim, and if he's crouching you can still get some bullets through the top right of his shield where his gun is poking through or rotate around him to get him from the sides
bro you realize that the ttk is usually longer than it takes to land leg shots on blitz before he gets to you. It would probably take 6 pistol shots to down him or 8-10 smg rounds to down him and you are talking about hitting a tiny extremity. The only times I have been able to down a blitz when he's running full speed at you is if he's retarded and starts running from far away. It's funny how you have to defend this cancer by saying "If he's running at you you can shoot him in the legs"(if anyone is running headfirst at me like a retard I can shoot them in the head you are actually listing an advantage that blitz has and one of his many 50/50s) Ok blitz runs at you you aim down, He stops running then draws his pistol and shoots you. You are dead because you got 50/50ed and shot in the head.
>Also, a (smart) Blitz can be nowhere as aggressive when he's outnumbered
Non argument this applies literally to every character in the game the fact that you have to bring this up just means that you fundamentally do not understand how this game works and why characters like blitz/blackbeard are fundamentally broken at their core.
>Even Montagne can be dangerous when you only keep it at 1v1s
Except montagne is a fair character because
1. he's slow as fuck
2. he's vulnerable to melee and nitro cells
3. he doesn't have a flashbang "Instant win" button on his shield
How much skill does it take to just drone out a roamer and rush him with blitz since there is little they can do unless you are pulse/bandit. All you have to do is just run at them and 50/50 them. You just don't understand why the flashbang on the shield is inherently broken. If he didn't have the flash he wouldn't be as broken(ubisoft acknowledged how broken he was when they reduced the effectiveness of his flash and the range of the flash) Blitz isn't as good as he was in chimera anymore but he's still just the "I'm fucking braindead" character of choice. You act as if "Omg you can't get shot in the feet" as if that's some kind of weakness….. When he's almost as fast as most of the defensive team(he outruns 3 speeds and can almost outrun 2 speeds and he has a fucking shield covering 90 percent of his body) When he literally outruns most of the cast and there is no effective measure of fighting him in a 1v1 head to head conflict(things change when you hear him shuffling and you can ambush him but that's different and it doesn't matter because getting shot in the back is not a "blitz only" weakness and he even has a better chance of living even if he's ambushed because you can do 360s in this game as fast as you can move your mouse so anyone who is good at "turning on someone" can play blitz and even survive rear ambushes.
When I can list more strengths that blitz has than weaknesses he's obviously fucking broken. He's useless at higher levels of the meta like pro league and shit because if you are playing at that high of a level a crutch character with 0 utility is pointless and you probably already have a blackbeard. Characters like blitz and blackbeard dictate the fight moreso than just about any other character in the entire game. Since you are not allowed to attack them frontally if they are good players. This causes need for rotation strategies.
Shield characters are broken crutch characters that are literally totally useless. Beyond Montagne/Blackbeard every shield character is just a crutch character that has no reason for existence because even though blackbeard is a crutch character he is a relevant and always powerful character compared to blitz who is literally just "I'm braindead and I'm going to win a couple 1v1s before I die and I'm going to do it every round"
How much work does the average player have to put in to kill a good blitz? now how much does the enemy team suffer from losing blitz?
They lose nothing. If you fail trying to take him out you lose alot because once he gets near site with backup it's fucking over for the anchors.
Losing a montagne can be a serious detriment to a plant strategy. Losing blitz is like "welp" ok. He's merely a cheap fragging character. Just a character that you pick so you don't have to do any fucking work or have any responsibility or have to do fucking ANYTHING since you can facecheck every angle safely anyway since you have an unbreakable faceshield.
91ce73 No.15428654
>>15428597
>If you are playing casual stop caring about winning, k/d
I wasn't whining about k/d though, I was pointing out how quickly a team falls apart over a misunderstanding. In a game that's supposed to promote good communication and team work. I pretty much exclusively play casual though because I don't like how long matches take on ranked, the smaller map selection, and I don't often have a stack to bring with me. I abhor the shitters who think just because it's casual you should meme the game though, the guys who get dunked on then yell "wow sweaty in cas??" in chat. A greater amount of stream-bait children are in casual as well who just wanna grief for their EBIN RAGE MONTAGE.
Ubisoft and all these other developers try so hard to crack down on "toxicity" under the belief that people saying Nigger in chat is the apex of toxic behavior and not people exploiting the games systems to ruin a match and leave. "toxic" doesn't mean fucking anything anyway, it's the worst used blanket term in regards to player behavior because no user or developer has a clear definition of what they consider toxic behavior
47838d No.15428679
>>15428654
I said "winning" not whining
Like don't care about winning or your K/D in casual since casual is a shitshow anyway.
a0c375 No.15428696
>>15409684
>Still thinking Ubisoft gives a shit about balance.
>>15409713
>>15410864
>Acknowledging just how kiked the game is yet doing nothing about it.
>>15410919
>>15426099
>Black pill.
>>15411938
>Ignoring the point of the post this hard.
>>15425722
>Just go banned for 2 hours for saying Vigger in chat
You deserve it for keeping the Guillemot mafia in business.
Faggots like you are the reason Rainbow Six: Siege treads should be banned on sight.
91ce73 No.15428709
>>15428679
my bad, i misread that. I still try to win in casual because that's the point of a game but I'll just as likely exit match if I'm stuck with a bunch of shit heads
47838d No.15428711
>>15428654
>In a game that's supposed to promote good communication and team work
also note that this is a bigger problem in north america. Too many regions, too much racial/religious/political animosity on top of everything else. Europeans and spics don't have this problem(which is probably another reason why they actually win tournaments in this game)
Casual is pure stream bait meming kids who want to be their "favowite utoobas nay nay on keedz." Also since everyone is insecure and using their discord only for their little 3 stack or whatever the fuck these people will actually just ignore you only to later talk to you since they are so concerned with their discord chat moreso than the game(then again this is casual and not ranked so I couldn't really give a fuck what their priorities are in a videogame especially one that I'm not even getting elo points off anyways)
> Ubisoft and all these other developers try so hard to crack down on "toxicity" under the belief that people saying Nigger in chat is the apex of toxic behavior and not people exploiting the games systems to ruin a match and leave. "toxic" doesn't mean fucking anything anyway, it's the worst used blanket term in regards to player behavior because no user or developer has a clear definition of what they consider toxic behavior
It's ridiculous tbh. They have no real manner of policing this game anyway. They can't stop hackers which are fucking everywhere in ranked(idk about this season though haven't played ranked yet I'm waiting until the public and
>>15428696
And kiketendo threads are a ok and all over the board and they have draconian policies regarding emulation their IPs and everything. Everything they do is shitty but it's only bad when ubishit does it right mark?
7254eb No.15428717
>>15428696
So did you mean to reply to me and only me or did I just manage to chap your ass that hard?
a0c375 No.15428747
>>15428711
Nice bit of Whataboutism
>>15428717
I just found that each one of your posts was so stupid they all deserved a reply
Are going to defend any of your points or just reply with U MAD LUL
47838d No.15428759
>>15428747
>Nice bit of Whataboutism
And what nigger? what about it. OMG SIEGE IS SO KIKED YOU SHOULD GET BANNED FOR TALKING ABOUT IT!!!!
Star Citizen threads
Steam Threads
Capcom threads
Nintendo threads
But siege though? For some reason this gets you buttblasted.
91ce73 No.15428779
>>15428711
>Also since everyone is insecure and using their discord only for their little 3 stack or whatever the fuck these people will actually just ignore you only to later talk to you since they are so concerned with their discord chat moreso than the game
Reminds me of a funny thing, I was just playing rounds of casual awhile back and had a good match and stayed team with the guys I was with, giving us a proper 3-4 stack, but they were all on their discord and when they invited me to use it, the discord ringleader immediately kicked me out (I assume because he was orbiting the girl in the group) but they wanted to keep me in party despite not actually communicating with me. Stopped playing with them pretty quickly
>>15428759
>not including actual mobile gacha game threads up at any given moment (granblue, fate GO)
>2-3 threads about the latest AAA release no one is even going to play (spiderman, BFV)
No one in a siege thread even defends its issues, anyone here who plays it doesn't even advocate a full price purchase of it even if the base gameplay is solid, but they'll actually talk about the gameplay and changes being made to the game which is a lot more to be said than some circlejerk threads going on out there right now
91ce73 No.15428783
To stay on topic though, I'm glad they brought this nightmare map back into rotation, I always have fun on it even if it's a mess
a0c375 No.15428793
>>15428759
I get buttblasted about every one of those treads its not only because other people do it that it's okay for us to do it as well.
Most of those other treads you mentioned are only made for the purpose of mocking, Steam, Nintendo, Capcom and Star Citizen.
NONE of these treads should be tolerated but it's not because some of them go unnoticed that we should sink to their level.
7254eb No.15428803
>>15428747
Well if you really want me to.
>Still thinking Ubisoft gives a shit about balance.
wasn't implying that, just miss my MPs.
>Acknowledging just how kiked the game is yet doing nothing about it.
I already said that it doesn't matter. Ubisoft has my shekels, and not playing the game isn't gonna take them back
>Black pill.
Not an argument.
>Ignoring the point of the post this hard.
No, it's an accurate refutation. Show me some proof that what /v/ does ever accomplishes anything, cause trump certainly isn't, and that was his sole piece of evidence. (even though it's far more applicable to /pol/ than /v/).
>>15428783
It's pretty fun, but fuck night time on it. Can't see shit. And it never ceases to amuse me how no one checks that one peek window on top even though everyone uses it every round without fail.
91ce73 No.15428813
>>15428803
>no one checks that one peek window on top even though everyone uses it every round without fail.
you can be abusive with alibi on it, just strafe your holograms and force people to hit them on accident while your boys chew them up
>>15428793
>NONE OF THESE THREADS SHOULD BE TOLERATED
show us your approved video game discussion list
47838d No.15428843
>>15428779
>the discord ringleader immediately kicked me out (I assume because he was orbiting the girl in the group) but they wanted to keep me in party despite not actually communicating with me. Stopped playing with them pretty quickly
When will these orbiters learn? I've recently lost a players that ran off to other games chasing fake internet pussy. When will these thirsty betas learn? Just fucking call a phone sex service if you want that shit.
>>15428783
Honestly at this point I don't think it's that bad. I used to fucking hate it, but after playing more and more of it I actually like that it's really fast paced and ends quickly and forces people to actually fight. The only thing I hate about casual is "Attackers that refuse to attack" People who use all that time to literally just stand around and hold these safe angles only to push after they get 1 frag on some guy who they bored to death……. This shit is just insanity since casual can actually get harder than ranked(More time on the clock so it allows more autism and you don't get enough rounds to "get a feel" for the enemy team") I can't tell you how many ranked games I've had where I will die 2 times just instantly domed in the face to come back with like a 6-2 with a victory. In casual you can't do this because the round and time limits. They should have the ranked time limit in casual(since casual exists anyway for people who just want to blow off steam and play old maps or mess around anyway and for people who are trying to level up AND GET READY FOR RANKED….. casual is good for shooting practice but it doesn't teach you how to push, how to actually win games in ranked. Whenever you play ranked and you see a really really disorganized attacking team that's probably because they play alot of casual. In order to make an effective push you need to attack site and utilize utilities and since the time limit in casual gives them that extra minute to just sneak around and peek angles it gives attack more priority and makes the game more tedious than it should be.
>>15428793
So when everyone is shitting their pants about bing bing wahoo smash ultimate characters being introduced into their game that's fine though because I sure as fuck haven't seen people attack smash containment threads like I have seen in these types of threads.
7254eb No.15428854
>>15428843
To be fair, smash threads get way too much traffic for the people against it to even get noticed, whereas siege threads have always been really slow.
47838d No.15428861
>>15428803
>It's pretty fun, but fuck night time on it. Can't see shit.
Fuck nighttime on every fucking map. It's probably the worst on chalet where there is nighttime chalet in ranked and as a defender you have to make consistent outside picks as a roamer to even win rounds. Nighttime should just be removed from this game. There is nothing lamer than offense getting a plant off then "Uh oh It's nighttime" so offense is just scattered fucking everywhere outside in areas you can't see them just staring at the defusal device.
47838d No.15428872
>>15428854
yea because it's popular I was just pointing out that if Smash can be shilled non stop why can't we talk about siege?
I mean you got posts in the smash thread that look like they were paid for by nintendo but casually discussing rb6 IS WAY TOO MUCH!!!!
It's not like we are all posting videos of maverick and saying "OMG SO FUCKING HYPE"
a0c375 No.15428877
>>15428813
I don't claim to have the final answer to what games should or should not be discussed but i believe that we should all employ common sense as to which games we support and discuss otherwise we're pretty much like any other video game related website, for example a game that antagonizes their user base should not be discussed or supported.
>>15428843
I completely understand the frustration at seeing people fawning over Super Smash bros but that shouldn't mean we can just do whatever we want, when we see something wrong it doesn't mean that suddenly it's okay for us to do wrong.
7254eb No.15428885
>>15428877
You can nitpick any game to death. For example
>not on PC/[console of choice]
>made by leftist/people I don't like
>poor graphics/performance
>single mechanic I don't like
>has no anime girls
etc. You can criticize, don't get me wrong, but it's not gonna get banned.
47838d No.15428895
>>15428877
We aren't fawning over ubisoft though we just like rainbow six though. I don't see anything wrong here. All of your favorite videogames are going to have shitheels running the show it's not my fault that nobody can make a decent tactical shooter(that's actually competitive and not a larping game) besides ubisoft. By this I'm not dismissing games like arma and red orchestra because those games are good but they are not on the same "competitive"(as in it's actually a balanced 5v5 game)
The only "competitive" shooters right now that exist are Rainbow and Counterstrike everything else is either meme tier or not competitive but made for fun. Nobody is playing ANYTHING else on pc and if we are looking for a consistent competitive FPS experience we are limited to these 2 games. nobody is playing quake arena or anything. The only games people play are these 2 games or Overwatch.
91ce73 No.15428897
>>15428877
there quickly comes a point where "discussion of this will not be tolerated" infringes upon the idea of the free speech website hotwheels was trying to make in the first place. No one here is shilling either, no one ever says "buy rainbow six siege" even old-hat players like me who have been playing since year one because ubisoft has these malicious practices, but the game is still actually fun and I enjoy talking with guys who play it here about how the things change and the tricks people learn because it's actually got some sense of depth to it. which may be a fluke.
The game risks flying down the tubes at any given second because the devs go to reddit for feedback which causes assbrained changes to be made (like twitch nerfs) but then something genuinely clever comes out like maestro and alibi successfully weakening rush metas by adding things that make player use drones more.
91ce73 No.15428904
>>15428895
Siege is the only thing on the market that uses destruction physics in an interesting way right now too, I'd love to see some one successfully copycat it and make their own SWAT style game that learns what siege did right and wrong so I could maybe jump shit on siege. At the same time though the only reason I wanna jump ship is because I dislike ubisoft, the game itself isn't in a broken state yet
47838d No.15428909
>>15428904
The only thing I dislike about the game is how badly unoptimized it is for a AAA competitive shooter. Even if you have a 1060 you have to run this game on low as fuck in order to have a stable framerate. Terrible. I heard that the reasoning behind all this is because the engine they are working with is shit tier.
7254eb No.15428919
>>15428897
> The game risks flying down the tubes at any given second
It has already done that friend. the chat filter really is irredeemable. That and the cosmetics, season passes, new ops, ranking system being still in beta after three fucking years, netcode that teleports you back behind walls you destroyed, battleye, the list goes on.
a0c375 No.15428928
>>15428885
I understand, i went a bit too far when i tried to LARP as the board police, i shouldn't have said they should be banned, after all if we start banning people we disagree with we might as well be ResetEra, the only way to win against these practices is to discuss them openly with others.
>>15428895
>>15428897
I understand, i played this game and i can see the appeal is just saddens me to see it handled so poorly.
I don't respect your choice but i think you should have the right too choose.
47838d No.15428949
>>15428919
yea but despite how broken the gameplay can be the ideas behind it are so good that it's addictive as fuck. Once you learn the basic fundamentals of how to use cover/concealment, and how to peek/change angles and cross people up and shit the skill ceiling seems to be limitless due to the nature of the game(1 shot headshots) the amount of control you have over your character and the destruction is probably moreso than any videogame I've ever played. I would consider it the Melee of shooters because it seems like we are playing something that never should of been.
One thing I think is a mistake is Global Ability characters like Lion/Finka. Dokkaebi should of been a 1 off character I'm glad that during parabellum and this season they aren't adding more of this cancer.
>>15428919
>That and the cosmetics
yea but you just earn cosmetics in the free alpha packs or you just buy them with your worthless renown(wtf are you going to do with it anyway)
I hate the "buy only" skins though that shit is disgusting practice.
>new ops
Pretty much every cancerous new op they add has been nerfed to be reasonable lion is at a reasonable level now. The only op they ruined recently is IQ by removing her frag grenades(I have a feeling though this is because of pro league players abusing dokkaebi phone calls then IQ locating the players and charging frags) still though fuck them for doing this. Then there is finka which is just something that should even exist. It's a gimmick crutch character of the highest order.
91ce73 No.15428954
>>15428909
My biggest complaint besides performance issues (Works on my machine!) is that the feedback from players is terrible and nothing is gained from TTS sessions. I tried the TTS a few times but they're always a complete shitshows where people just go in, if they don't get to try the new operator they usually just leave match immediately or teamkill whoever got and leaves. Since it seemingly isn't linked to your main game people grief twice as much in TTS too so operators will come out broken in one direction or the other and not get fully fixed until midseason (chimera and blood orchid were particularly bad in this case). Then the devs use /r/siege or whatever the reddit page for the game is for feedback which leads to absolute bottom of the barrel players aiding in decision making, again the twitch nerf is the biggest example of this because the reasoning behind this was shit players got mad they couldn't hit the fat fucking drone with no jump and got zapped 6 times. It just punished better players
>>15428919
>chat filter
agreed, it's a hack way to try to win good boy points but doesn't directly affect gameplay
>season passes
agreed
>new ops
disagree, year one new ops were all pretty good, year 2 new ops were mostly good, and year 3 is above average so far save for lion and clash. I don't see why adding new operators would be a negative because many of them had positive influence on the gameplay, it's just the pricing system for them that's bad (year 1 ops should be reduced price or something by now). I'd also say there should maybe be a "vanilla only" play list or something similar
>ranked beta
wonky but doesn't ultimately affect how the game is play
>netcode
agreed
>battleye
agree
>cosmetics
harmless unless you're a goy. most of the time the cosmetics aren't worth your time and strangely enough the alpha pack system is the least predatory loot box system in the market that I'm aware of, since you can use in-game currency to just go buy an item you want, or an alpha pack for a laugh and not actually be forced into whaling like overwatch does to it's abused playerbase. Overwatch has got to be the most predatory and malicious loot system on the market
>>15428928
>I don't respect your choice but i think you should have the right too choose.
i don't hold any grudge against you for it. I like the game and I'd like people on /v/ to be able to play it without ubisoft breathing down their necks so I don't advocate the purchase of it
b0de82 No.15428968
>>15428949
I dream of the day Lion, Dokki and Finka are removed or reworked into something not utterly bullshit.
>>15428919
Don't forget that, for some reason, there's no chat history. So if you don't see the message before it fades it's lost to time forever.
>>15428606
>It would probably take 6 pistol shots to down him or 8-10 smg rounds to down him
After accounting for armor modification and the reduced leg damage modifier, Blitz has an effective HP of 146. For it to take 6 pistol shots to down him you'd have to be firing a pistol that does 24 damage. The lowest damage pistol in the game has a base damage of 33. 8-10 SMG rounds would be 18-14 damage, which actually is possible, if you're using a suppressed Vector, which can put those rounds out in 0.4 seconds.
91ce73 No.15428987
>>15428968
the biggest issue with finka is there is no way to tell when she's boosted the attackers when you're playing defense, Lions droprate fell to the floor after his nerf but he still has a definitive advantage in defuser-planted scenarios.
b0de82 No.15429023
>>15428987
I exclusively play hostage, so I don't see Lion too often, but I still hate that can declare 'red light' for every defender on the map. Honestly, what I might be alright with is if Lion had to move the drone to specific parts of the map, with the drone only affecting that particular area with a different audio cue when you're within the scan range
47838d No.15429104
>>15428954
>fat fucking drone with no jump and got zapped 6 times.
Now they also made the fat fucking drone alot louder because scrubs couldn't handle having a drone they couldn't hear…..
This is so pathetic they even slightly nerfed the Famas F2. Ubisoft hates twitch and high firerate weapons.
>>15428968
Well that's just how it seems from my end at least. It seems like I need at least 8-10 shots to not just down him but to kill him at least unless it's head. It doesn't matter how many you have to shoot him anyway because it's about openings(especially since the opening to shoot blitz is entirely dependent on blitz) This is the real problem is that the ball is in blitz court at all times he dictates the fight he can come and go and do anything he fucking wants as he pleases. Just go watch diamond players they even ask for backup when they are fighting against blitz(because trying to actually fight him honestly would be a round losing risk in itself) the fact that the highest ranked players need help alot dealing with 1 character is on it's face broken as fuck especially since said character is an attacker and the whole point of defense is to defend the site not to go out of your way to rotate around the map to stop a blitz push. The manner that lag works in this game you could also be getting bad hitreg and you have to land even more shots on his legs than 5 which is fucking ridiculous since you literally have like a 3 frame opening on this guy at point blank to kill him before he kills you. On top of this the shield characters maintain their crosshairs when their shield is still up so they can use peekers advantage prefires on people who are trying to close the distance on them. In all practicality blitz is just a mobile turret that has melee priority and close range flashbang. There is no real argument because everyone knows that he is the best CQC character in the entire game(which is fucked since he's an attacker….)
>>15429023
It used to be alot worse. It used to be the 'I press this dumb button and anybody who moves dies and if you don't move you will probably get rushed'
Lion was just so fucking braindead and broken on release that it was insane that they could introduce something like that to the game(It shows that the people making the game don't understand it as well as the players)
91ce73 No.15429454
any goy pass holders try maverick at all yet? I'm realizing he might actually mean not having to run thatcher on every single scenario since he can bust jammers and batteries
87c5f2 No.15429477
>>15429454
>buying the good goy passes
91ce73 No.15429494
>>15429477
I bought one ONCE and it just so fucking happened to be the year that op-health happened, served me fucking right. but it also gave me an excess of renown for this season from regular play so I can afford everyone this season with renown alone and into next season depending if the game makes it to year 4
>year 2 shows a roadmap, think to myself "well this makes purchasing a season pass feel more fair"
>ophealth happens
>season pass holders get a shiny white helmet for doc to be headshot in as an apology
I deserved it I know
87c5f2 No.15429552
>>15429494
You played yourself bud. I regret buying R6 even though I've played more than my share of hours in the game.
47838d No.15429576
>>15429552
I find it fucked how the season pass is almost as much money as the full game? like wtf??? The only justification for buying this shit is if you want the operators on release of day 1. I just wait the extra week and unlock them with my renown. You don't even need half of the operators in the game anyway but I can see how some idiots can get carried away with this game since literally everything in the game comes with a price tag(except well being good at the game).
I know some guy who lost his mind and spent more than 120 dollars on this game when he bought it and bought a bunch of dlc ops and cosmetic items and literally droppped the game in less than a month.
91ce73 No.15429585
>>15429552
I don't regret buying it, i got it on sale during a free weekend and have enjoyed my time playing it, sure ubisoft has fucked up a lot with all this but it doesn't change the fun i've had with it. I do obviously regret buying the season pass, I dipped my toes into the idea of getting one because the roadmap looked legit and i ate that
387574 No.15430324
>>15413063
This is what I don't get, why can't a super expensive, well paid and funded, high trained, top team of super agents from all over the world get guns that actually just shoot straight?
What is with these games making their guns shoot all over the goddamn place and even shoot in dramatically different directions than aimed at if shot for a bit. It just doesn't make sense, do our operators never actually practice with their loadouts before a match? Are the guns second rate bargain bin, is that where the budget cuts were?
b0de82 No.15431150
>1v2 as an Attacker
>Clash on the enemy team
>haven't really had a chance to fight one before
>know that she's got a full-body shield
>also know that her shield can be melee'd away
>hide behind a corner when I hear her coming close
>jump out, she's only a few feet away
>sprint towards her
>suddenly realize I'm moving at literal crawling speed
>she just backs up faster than I can move
>other Defender rushes over and shoots me
Who in their right mind thought this was okay? I've pulled off 1v1/2/3/4/5s, but it seems that unless you happen to be playing Thatcher or a frag grenade op you might as well commit suicide. A 1v1 against a Blitz/Monty isn't as bad since they are the ones who have to complete an objective which usually opens then up to attack, but as a Defender all you have to do is backpedal while zapping.
bb874f No.15431272
>>15413048
I've stopped playing that game because of that kind of shit. TH used to be the only mode where it was possible to have fun but the griefers and Ubisoft (who decided that you would earn less renown than in PVP) ruined it.
I wish Ubisoft had made more maps and less gimmicky operators.
7254eb No.15432306
>>15431150
What speed were you? I've never been tazed hard enough to be unable to catch up to her.
cd86b7 No.15432435
>>15432306
I was Jackal, so a 2-speed. https://youtu.be/IxxPLtOIyNI?t=225 At 3:45 you can see Capitao being reduced to near immobility.
7254eb No.15432473
>>15432435
That's pretty stupid. She does need a bit of a nerf. Also I feel like maverick needs something too. The fact that nothing can stop his torch and it's near silent is pretty stupid.
cd86b7 No.15432521
I feel it necessary to bring this image up, from when, in a moment of weakness, I checked halfchan's /vg/.
>>15432473
I assumed when Maverick was suspected to be an upcoming Op that his torch would function basically the same as a Thermite charge, just much slower and without being jammed/shockwired. He's slowly cut an outline of a vaultable-sized hole, which could then be knocked out with a melee hit or something.
9d27d1 No.15432661
>>15432473
Would be fine if they just made his gadge have the same kind of sound or atleats be on par with the volume of thermites breaching charge when the thermite is burning at the start.
91ce73 No.15432794
>>15431150
the range on her tazer is fucking bullshit too, i've been zapped on 1f from second floor windows by that bitch
91ce73 No.15436263
>buy the new operators with funbux now that I can
>maverick bio page is kinda fun, mentions he's likes to play Buzkashi, which I assumed was a board game of sorts but now it's some afghan savage tribal horse game about flinging animal corpses into goals
>his special ops background gets him into rainbow, makes sense
>Clash bio, criminal history as a rioter, swaps sides, beats civilian heads with a stick for a few years and gets into rainbow because of it
what a terrible fucking character
13e06c No.15436299
>>15432794
I did see an Ash just running into Clash while getting tazed relentlessly, meleeing her shield, and shooting her dead in the foot. Even though said Clash only had to survive two more seconds to win.
>>15436263
The backstory is shit, though it's admittedly enjoyable being a huge dick with your shield while constantly yelling YOU FUCKING MUPPET
91ce73 No.15436497
>>15436299
>though it's admittedly enjoyable being a huge dick with your shield while constantly yelling YOU FUCKING MUPPET
nice dubs, but I played a few rounds as her and it's not my style, she's a commanding force to just be able to area so efficiently but it's not loads of fun just blocking a door
7ea166 No.15436717
>>15413063
Did you ADS? The game has completely ridiculous spread with hipfire. I know hipfire shouldn't be accurate, but you can have all of your bullets miss at fucking point blank if you don't ADS.
38f8d5 No.15439435
>sOYGAMER literally things getting permabanned from saying nigger 3 times is a good thing
who else done with this shit? I dont use chat but holy f uck
https://www.please use archive.is/ubisoft-on-rainbow-six-siege-toxicity-bans-operator-diversity-and-committing-to-multiplayer/?ns_campaign=article-feed&ns_mchannel=ref&ns_source=steam&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0
38f8d5 No.15439442
91ce73 No.15440680
>>15439442
>>15439435
this is old news now, you either leave the game or give up on calling people niggers in chat. Ubisoft is particularly smug about this one because they'll say "LMAO WORKING AS INTENDED" when some one says "i was banned for saying nibba what gives?" or some one asks "I typo'd 'frag grenade' and got banned, come on" but when some one asks their support feeds if they can see a definitive list of banned words they go silent. Although it is funny to see a 12 year old get booted for calling me a nigger when I get a cheeky pop on him, it's still a garbage system especially now they they have individual chat filters on top of mic filter. Developers shouldn't try to combat this idea of "toxicity" because like I've said before there is no true definition to the term, it's too loose from person to person. I can't even say bad language is "toxic" because it doesn't even affect the gameplay but now a clash can lock their own team into a room and there's no means to properly report that along with other griefing methods.
I keep playing because these filters didn't fucking exist when I entered during year 1 and now it's not like I can get a refund with 3 years of hours played, and there are no half decent shooters like siege still. Hell, Siege is probably going to hold it's little pedestal for a long time because COD/BF are going with large scale combat and battle royale as a subgame so siege can stay comfy with no competition for tacticool gameplay
ee96ce No.15441642
>>15436497
She's definitely not a fun character if you're soloing, but with a friend you can frustrate the shit out of the enemy team. My friend and I and getting doubles pretty consistently just by me standing in a doorway and giving call outs. And when they run it's pretty funny to make them panic as you shock em.
5ab1a6 No.15441649
91ce73 No.15441669
>>15441642
Shields aren't really my forte to start, I see the appeal completely but I'm not good at it and prefer playing flanking roles
8b71f5 No.15441690
So who should i buy as my first character outside the base stuff?
I was thinking frost for the fun beartrap but a lot of folks seem to get habanero first.
91ce73 No.15441749
>>15441690
Frost is a pretty decent all rounder, and an important thing about a character like her is that she can still assist the team even if she's killed, her traps will still be active whoever is playing her can try to relay their locations when they've been activated. Habenero is a fantastic attacker with a very fun gun but if you're killed early that's a breach option gone. So playing her depends on your own confidence as a breacher.
What base characters do you like? lots of the year 1 choices are alternative versions of existing characters and are all mostly considered versatile choices
8b71f5 No.15441815
>>15441749
Yeah i was thinking about her that way. I still don't feel like i have anyone down but Castle appeals to me door/window blocking autism on defence. On offensive i don't know glaz is fun on low visibility but often i'll just go in like a mad cunt that checks corners as thermite or whatever goggles is called.
47838d No.15441853
>>15441642
The best thing is just getting her to stand in an area where you can throw nitro cells over her and blow people up. I think the only thing I really like about clash is the fact that she can actually run out of the building and make spots for you so you don't just die immediately if you try and retake. It makes it more fair for defenders if the offense gets a quickplant off.
91ce73 No.15441858
>>15441815
> but often i'll just go in like a mad cunt that checks corners as thermite or whatever goggles is called.
You might find Blackbeard fun, he's still the reigning peek champ even after his many nerfs. Buck is fun too, he's a strong soft breacher and gets frags which are more valuable than ever at the moment, and he has a DMR option for larger maps.
Aside from frost another good choice for defense is valkyrie, but you wanna work on your map knowledge to use her so you can place those extra cams accordingly. Her gun is pretty weak so you wanna be a headshot king but like frost once her gadgets are placed she holds value even if killed
fe245d No.15441876
>>15441858
>DMR option for larger maps.
DMR on any map. Getting called a hacker for a fast trigger finger is gratifying
9ff2b2 No.15441887
>>15441642
It really seems as though Clash would be best friends with Cav or Vigil. For some reason players are too stupid to ignore shield ops so rather than maneuvering around them they tend to try to 1v1. I figure a good strategy would be to just stand in a hallway and block view of a killhole made by a buddy or have your buddy in a flanking position. I think Monty is my most played character so I bought clash with my renown. It's a bit different because you know that they can swat away your shield.
91ce73 No.15441898
>>15441876
Bucks in my top 5 played i think, I switch between his rifles a lot but since the recent alignment changes the DMRs are much more controllable and I'll be using the handsome CAMRS a lot more
9ff2b2 No.15441908
I have heard the pro 90 got a bit of a buff with the new update. Is that true? I did manage to get three headshots at medium range but I don't know if that was its initial ability. I hardly ever used the P90 before the rumor.
91ce73 No.15441918
>>15441908
I have no idea because I didn't look into it, but I've been using p90 on doc/rook exclusively because 1, i'm a retard who thinks it looks cool, and 2, 50 bullet = 50 headshot, ivan.
5a7f94 No.15441960
This is now a Rainbow Six general, posting best and the last good RS game
>isn't pay2win
>good gunplay and tactics instead of CoD-lite
>can't get banned for saying nigger or anything else "offensive"
>can't get banned at all for that matter, because SP is superior
>team is actually competent and stays out of your way, doesn't bitch and complain
>runs on toasters
9ff2b2 No.15441971
>>15441918
I don't remember why I stopped using it. Maybe I thought it shot peas compared to the MP5? While I'm still bitching about weapons,
WHEN WILL THEY BUFF THE FBI SHOTGUN
Good god, whenever I play castle I have the choice between the ump and the shotgun. I always think, "maybe it won't be so bad this time. Maybe I've just been playing it wrong. He has a strong pistol anyway." Then every time I choose it in wrong. It's like the ammunition liquefies when exposed to air. I have murdered people 10 feet away with the GIGN shotty. I've had people whip around and kill me after I blasted them 5 feet away. It's garbage.
47838d No.15442000
>>15441960
is there a way to still play this online??
91ce73 No.15442026
>>15441971
shotguns have been through a buff/nerf cycle since release and never found a sweet spot again, bandit doing crackhead shotgun runs are still viable but for the most part they've sorta just become wall-breaking tools
5a7f94 No.15442030
91ce73 No.15442055
>>15442026
although to follow on that, the machine pistol nerfs have made sledge/smoke shotty/smg loadouts a lot less useful, sledge not as much since he can still just hammer a wall but as smoke having a shotgun was extremely useful for chucking muh toxic babes out of holes
7254eb No.15442098
>>15442055
The machine pistols are fucking unuseably bad unless you get a tap on their head when they aren't noticing. Even regular fucking pistols are better now.
47838d No.15442116
>>15442030
we should have a gamenight
8b71f5 No.15442121
>>15441960
God we need more doorkicker games.
91ce73 No.15442914
>>15442098
I've just been playing maverick/echo/alibi since the new season started for whatever reason, i hear dok/vigils smg12s are abysmal now though
>tfw like doks rifle a lot but don't want to use her much otherwise
38f8d5 No.15443084
>>15440680
agreed
i just dont use chat
13e06c No.15452308
>mfw Clash can cancel into a weapon switch out of a shield stagger and finding this out the hard way as Monty
63c9b2 No.15452322
>>15441960
It also has 4-12 player coop.
91ce73 No.15453078
>>15452308
hopefully this gets patched out because that sounds like horseshit
>tfw sneaky reload cancel for BOSG by going into ADS the moment your ammo counter reads 2/2 to kill the rest of the animation got patched out
rightfully so but I was enjoying it
a2815d No.15456827
Any west eurofags here high gold/low plat want to play ranked?
>my profile
https://r6stats.com/stats/6a979688-e213-401a-baeb-460ce4b5680e
a2815d No.15456862
>>15456827
Also add me on steam because I never check udontplay unless i'm in game, my steam URL is the same as my uplay name
91ce73 No.15461622
>ubisoft removes AFK recruit so if you're dropped in as the pick phase is ending you still get an operator randomly from whoever you have
>have every operator and still manage to get recruited somehow
91ce73 No.15470610
https://rainbow6.ubisoft.com/siege/en-us/news/152-334910-16/y3s31-patch-notes
In the latest attempt to fuck up the game completely they've added a means for griefers to completely control the game
4a22d2 No.15470620
>>15470610
>Ubishit forces griefers to get creative
Props to ubishit.
91ce73 No.15470625
>>15470620
> forces griefers to get creative
>just run into your teams line of fire to get them banned
>"creative'
4a22d2 No.15470653
>>15470625
It's a little bit more creative than just throwing C4 or downing everybody as Cav then leaving. It's like they half-ass on purpose and instead of just adding a forgive/punish system they just ban outright now, ignoring players who legitimately accidentally TK.
91ce73 No.15470669
>>15470653
downing everyone as cav and leaving in theory can still go unpunished. that's why people did it because it didn't count as a team kill just friendly fire, so people will still do that. Running into friendly fire and getting your teammate banned for your action is a next level piece of incompetence on ubisofts part
3782b8 No.15470671
>>15470610
>accidentally shoot your teammate
>get fucking ding dong bannud on the spot
Is it really so hard to just implement a system where the person who was teamkilled decides if they should be kicked from the match or not? Y'know, like in every other multiplayer FPS.
91ce73 No.15470687
>>15470671
looking through their twitter it seems you still have leeway for an actual accidental teamkill, of course they do not clearly explain when and how that threshold is covered, but this still means that some one can try to get themselves teamkilled on purpose by running into fuzed rooms, running into grenades or c4, running into line of fire, standing in front of a breach charge or a thermite breach charge and the system can' feasibly realize that the guy who was teamkilled is not the victim here and want the other player banned
6ea8cc No.15470826
Would a forgiveness system work better for team killing rather than whatever they are implementing?
>xXNoScope420Xx has team killed you, will you to give him?
It puts more power to the player killed so unless the guy you killed will hold a grudge you should be good as long as you apoligise.
ab3d2d No.15470838
>>15470826
>Would a forgiveness system work better for team killing rather than whatever they are implementing?
Yes, obviously. The community has been asking for that since the game fucking came out.
91ce73 No.15470916
>>15470838
>>15470826
intentionally getting yourself teamkilled could still be exploited with this system but it's still better than risking being banned over an accident
2d8c71 No.15473188
>>15411545
Google authenticator & authy for phones, winauth for desktop/laptop.
05c5f3 No.15473602
>play Monty
>win two ranked matches because I blocked the door
I love playing as Monty. Never have I felt so useful just standing around.
13e06c No.15473627
>>15473602
It's unreal how much satisfaction you can get just by blocking a doorway after planting the bomb or standing in the obj as the defenders desperately wail at your shield, especially if it's the only doorway leading to the obj with the other one being all the way over there. And then bait them for time by unextending your shield and pretend like you're going to shoot them in the back when they try to run away only to quickly extend again when they turn around.
6a1e27 No.15477768
>>15470610
>cav down&leave still unpunish
Fuck I hate those devs so much.
44de79 No.15477813
Can we all just take a moment to remember that they REMOVED GRENADE THROWBACK because it had, and I fucking quote: an unnaturally high occurrence of team kills and suicides that resulted from throwing grenades back.
Ubisoft has utterly no idea what they're doing and I'm honestly embarrassed to still be playing this.
b9d95b No.15477828
>>15477813
Wait, really? I don't have too many grenades chucked at me so I wouldn't know. That is banning peanut products because one kid is allergic tier.
5154f8 No.15477835
>>15477813
That is retarded. Especially with the new operator who can cut through reinforced walls silently.
6a1e27 No.15478007
>>15477813
What? I basically never throw back becasue 99% are cooked so you just blow yourself but that’s retarded
7254eb No.15480156
>>15477813
you could throw them back?
16e873 No.15483176
8CUP POLL
Can suggest new players too.
http://poal.me/4czae
91ce73 No.15483811
>>15480156
yeah but it was poorly thought out, I don't know if it was even shown in the tutorials or the controller maps and all of a sudden you could see "PRESS F TO TOSS GRENADE BACK" but it was likely cooked already so if you grabbed it it could count as a suicide or if you grabbed and threw it in a panic you could just break your own teammates gadgets or kill them
2bcd4a No.15486535
>>15428711
>also note that this is a bigger problem in north america. Too many regions, too much racial/religious/political
I have the opposite experience in "Squad" ,
Europe server have on average 10 languages ,but unless they make language specific squads they at least use broken english-Small amount of talk in general due to language barrier but compensates it by getting shit done
USA servers,everybody is talking and will get actually angry if you tell them that you have no interest in their chit chat and rather focus on the game-A lot of talk but nothings gets done
2bcd4a No.15486576
>>15430324
You can google "military contracts lowest bidder" if you want a somewhat serious answer
13e06c No.15486593
>>15477813
that might sound stupid until you realize what it's like playing on Casual
besides, grenade throwback only works as intended when they aren't cooked, which is like most grenades
>>15486535
I was actually wondering why there were so many Turkish players in the EU servers since they must have tons of lag playing from there, until I realized they were actually German
2bcd4a No.15486601
>>15440680
> try to combat this idea of "toxicity" because like I've said before there is no true definition to the term, it's too loose from person to person. I can't even say bad language is "toxic" because it doesn't even affect the gameplay
The main use of bullying is to make people play better ,only people that care enough for quality will call you a nigger for sucking at the game ,and that's exactly the kind of people jews want to get rid of
2bcd4a No.15486610
>>15486601
Example from today ,In "Squad" Squad Leaders can mark on the map possible enemy locations with a red rifle marker ,My team lost a flag ,didn't warn anyone and didn't mark even one enemy on the map and when I wrote them
"we lost police station and NO ENEMIES MARKED .step up you fuckers" the only response I get was from the fucking admin telling me to "be nice".They don't get punished for playing bad , I get fucking jumped on for wanting them to be better
There is no possible scenario where you win , this kind of behaviour leads only to defeat
e0604f No.15486665
>joining one second before a match starts before you can pick an op won't mean you automatically pick Recruit, but an op you already own will get automatically picked instead
What the fuck. I can't comprehend how people sit in meetings and agree on shit like that for their product.
8e8318 No.15486795
>>15486601
that's not how it works, fucko. people respond differently to various forms of motivation. negative reinforcement can work for some people, but others need positive reinforcement. some just need to be left alone to sort their own shit out. the point is you have no idea how to motivate a complete stranger so why even bother being a mad faggot? save that shit for your team where you know people and know how they think and respond to things
6a1e27 No.15487817
>>15486665
>having a random op being selected is bad
They should fucking do an entire game mode like that. I want to see what the fuck is going to happen with a cav on attack or a thermite on defense
2bcd4a No.15487965
>>15486795
1000's guides and video on what to do and what not to do , people refuse to read them yet still cry when they loose , chat full of "which button for x" every day
That was the nice way and they choose to not use it ,if you can't be bothered to read the control scheme you have no place in Squad or Siege
They act like it's their first time using the computer and they decided to pick the most teamwork oriented game out there to be a noob in ,if someone would play StarCraft and didn't know to use ctrl+1 for groups you tell them to read the manual , if they refuse you call them a fucking nigger and tell them to play something else
91ce73 No.15488003
>>15486665
Slow down, this fixed a more major problem of some one getting dropped into the game with 1second left in the pick phase and getting recruited. 9 times out of t10 I would rather have an operator I don't use a lot before a recruit
91ce73 No.15488014
>>15487817
castle on attack would probably be better than he is on defense
b8c2fd No.15488085
Clash is the final nail in the coffin for this game. I already know a lot of people who are quitting because of the global operators dokk/finka/lion and of course Clash, who has no place in the game whatsoever. The original design team is long gone and the diversity hires care more about adding diverse operators rather than fixing the appalling net code and bugs.
b8c2fd No.15488107
>>15477813
It's worse than that. In this update you can get a 30 minute ban just for teamkilling 2 people in one match.
>MFW there's still not a forgive option that has worked in multiple FPS games
91ce73 No.15488115
>>15488085
Clash is incredibly obnoxious, I don't even know how to nerf her without benching the character completely
>she standsin a window, your only choice is to find another path
>she stands in a hallway, your only choice is to seek another route
>even if you bonk her shield and shoot her you put yourself at insane risk because you can't tell how much battery is left on her taser so you could lose a ton of health in the process or her teammates could just get the drop on you
At least a lot of clash players are retarded and don't get anyone to watch their back but it's still annoying
b8c2fd No.15488130
>>15488115
With the recent updates Ubi keeps catering to the lowest common denominator, which is I guess not surprising since almost every major Dev/Publisher team is doing this. From what I've seen, only complete dogshit players pick shield OP's that are totally broken like Blitz/Clash. This season they also buffed Blitz's movespeed by almost 10%, and it wasn't in the patch notes.
I agree on Clash, there's no way you can balance her. A shield OP on defense makes no sense, even from a realistic tactical stand point. I'm convinced that they don't play their own games for more than 20 minutes a day. It's clear that the design team has no clue, or they just don't care.
91ce73 No.15488139
>>15488130
>It's clear that the design team has no clue, or they just don't care.
it's 50/50. I think maverick came out really well, I think all of parabellum came out really well, but then you have white noise and chimera and clash
13e06c No.15488143
>>15488115
One idea I have is that her shield can be extendable like Montagne's, and she can only use her shield while it's extended, but as a trade-off she can't move while the shield is extended. It also puts a lid on her ridiculous weapon switching speed as she has to unextend her shield before she can switch to her SMG. So she'd basically become a more mobile Tachanka with a stungun. On her own she'd get flattened fast without the benefit of movement.
91ce73 No.15488160
>>15488143
I feel that it needs a damage threshold or something, it can eat a breaching round to the face to my understanding, maybe not have it shatter like blackbeards but do something to it so she can't hold a doorway indefinitely
ee96ce No.15488841
>>15488115
Make her counters more punishing. Right now when she gets melee'd / concussed it only opens up a tiny window on her legs. They should just make it more like every other shield operator so that it opens up her entire body for a shot.
630cfe No.15499288
>>15409684
Good. They were being abused.
3ffdb3 No.15499459
>>15499288
t. shitter that can't use the SMG-11
Go fuck yourself faggot. Smokes shotgun/smg-11 combo was pure sex.
97db1e No.15499670
>>15480116
>we looked at the data and saw an unnaturally high occurrence of team kills and suicides that resulted from throwing grenades back
Or maybe it's because those grenades were going to kill those people anyway regardless whether someone was attempting to throw them back.
ee6fcb No.15505916
HNGGGGGG
>saving up renown for discounts on basic ops
>200k banked
>this happens
good goy pass holders can get the ops for 13500 renown
e29f56 No.15505945
>>15505916
Are you actually paying up for ubisoft's microtransactions and dlcs?
You should kill yourself.
ee6fcb No.15505950
>>15505945
Renown is the (((free))) currency anon
1ffc0a No.15508056
>still playing this shit game after all the bullshit ubisoft added
Why aren't you waiting for Ready or Not anon?
>>15507581
>losing so much to actually get that high
13e06c No.15508840
Anyone at times wish the enemy could hear your team's voice communication if they got close enough? Sometimes when I'm playing Montagne I just want to shout at people that I'm fucking invincible. Makes me wonder when we'll get an op with micspam as a gadget, or at least something related to distracting sounds.
bf696c No.15509635
>>15488841
Have her shield break, fixes her super easily
6a1e27 No.15510069
>>15508056
>losing
You get 2.5 increase either winning or losing… the wining spins the wheel tho he is just unlucky
8cedd0 No.15510126
>>15508056
I've gotten to like +30% by just winning. Could just be shit luck.
>>15488107
Forgive option in red orchestra worked well. Teamkilling didnt punish you that much but it still worked. Pretty much always forgiven for accidentally killing someone.
630cfe No.15513904
13e06c No.15513930
>>15510126
>Forgive option in red orchestra worked well. Teamkilling didnt punish you that much but it still worked. Pretty much always forgiven for accidentally killing someone.
It'd be more of an efficient method to reward people for not teamkilling. Like if you don't teamkill anyone this round, you get an additional end-of-match renown bonus. It wouldn't really stop people whose intent from the start is to grief through teamkilling, but it should discourage bored or easily angered people a bit by reducing the time it takes to grind for a new op. The griefing meta might shift to trick others into killing you, but at least you won't get a TK-chain reaction where people start killing other TK'ers out of self-defense.
91ce73 No.15514967
>>15513930
some one who plans to teamkill isn't going to care about a bonus for not doing it, they just want people to get mad
5d56ed No.15527164
>>15508840
They'd just use out of game VOIP to avoid that.
5fac66 No.15527304
>willingly gaving ubisoft money
>playing ubisoft games
How embarrassing
13e06c No.15527325
>>15527304
You forgot your sage
c16f0a No.15531127
>>15410330
yeah but siege is life. i hate that shit and still try to find as many ways around it as i can though, they'll never fully silence me. i just have to be a good goy long enough to avoid the perma ban.
630cfe No.15533446
>>15527304
So tell us what games you play anon.
b51ece No.15538306
>>15409751
Is that a clone trooper from the cartoon network show?
de4594 No.15538319
b51ece No.15538400
>>15488115
>>15488841
They should make her shield breakable since it's not metal.
they also need to make tachanka's gun penetrate shields
Also has anyone tried shooting her shield with Ash's breaching grenades? I know they can destroy deployable shields
ba2507 No.15538473
>>15538400
They just bounce off and become duds.
b51ece No.15538494
>>15538473
That's fuckin gay. I would love for it to explode into a bunch of glass shards and take off 75HP
47838d No.15538532
>>15488115
This is the direction of year 3. It's all about pushing these slow moving or brainless characters that severely influence the game just based on their existence. They don't even need to be fucking smart anymore they just have to stand around.
We got lioned and blitzed hard and it was the most braindead thing ever they kind of fixed that shit parabellum was more stable than this. Now we just have another total fucking menace type character in the form of clash. Yet another character whose sole existence is "I make the game way harder for people who are trying to fight against higher numbers"
The more they keep adding these types of characters the more this game will just devolve into retardation. The developers just never want people to ever be able to 1v5 teams anymore ever again every fucking dlc character besides a handful deliberately limit your 1v5 ability.
It's just getting ridiculous at this point.
5d56ed No.15546327
>>15538319
>getting banned