a6dec4 No.15392774
http://archive.is/SBm3c
AMD’s 7nm Vega is a Monster – 1.25x Turing’s Compute at Half The Size
>Whilst the company hasn’t disclosed detailed specifications relating to the new GPU we could reasonably expect around one terabyte/s of memory bandwidth, higher clock speeds and significantly better power efficiency thanks to TSMC’s leading-edge 7nm process technology. Which has reportedly enabled the company to extract an unbelievable 20.9 TFLOPS of graphics compute out of 2nm Vega, according to one source. Which if true would make it the world’s first 20 TFLOPS GPU.
>Earlier this week the company confirmed in a press release, and later President and CEO Dr. Su confirmed in an interview with Marketwatch, that AMD is on track to launch the world’s first 7nm graphics cards this year. While the world’s first 7nm CPUs, built on the company’s next generation Zen 2 x86 64-bit core, are on track to be on-shelves next year.
It's good to hear a little bit of good news, now I'm not as bummed about Nvidia, since they are not the ones laying pipe this year.
f3ad89 No.15392778
<AMD’s 7nm Vega is a Monster
>Whilst the company hasn’t disclosed detailed specifications relating to the new GPU
997f1d No.15392779
You know (((Nvidia))) is already cooking up kike scheme to fuck AmD up the ass like they always do.
ac942d No.15392780
<NVIDIA are shit
>Based AMD
Transparent as fuck.
a6dec4 No.15392783
>>15392778
Come on goy, pick a side, you know you can't fight them off.
6bd807 No.15392789
>>15392778
>hasn't disclosed detailed specs on a product that's coming out next year
>somehow this is jewish
Eh?
f3ad89 No.15392791
>>15392783
I'll pick the side that offers a better service
They're both kikes
f3ad89 No.15392793
>>15392789
>Speculation
Wait for benchmarks you fucking nigger
6bd807 No.15392812
>>15392793
The speculation is from the author of the article
7f4cf5 No.15392820
Well since the 2080 is a steaming pile of shit, I'm patiently waiting to see if AMD can pull another threadripper
a6dec4 No.15392836
>>15392793
You are correct.
This is the closest thing we have right now to a benchmark.
>The company had already demonstrated working 7nm GPU silicon back in June at Computex, which has been sampling since and is set to be available for purchase later this year.
>Based on an improved iteration of the Vega architecture which debuted last year, 7nm Vega is nothing short of a beast. The new GPU supports intrinsic AI instructions and features four HBM2 8GB stacks running across a 4096-bit memory interface for a total of 32GB vRAM.
3235e9 No.15392837
>>15392820
After vega was too little too late and inflated and poached to hell and back by miners amd's higher ups arranged to sort out RTG. The successor could be a genuinely good series. AMD honestly just needs to figure out how to get 1070/1080 performance in the 200 to 400 range like it should have been. I yearn for the return to the utter disruption the hd 4000 series was.
f6db42 No.15392838
At this point, I'm just waiting for the new cards so, I can get a 1080 ti at dummy cheap price.
adc48c No.15392847
>>15392836
Of course a good keto diet will make you lose weight. but he definitely worked out. perhaps didn't go to a gym but he definitely did some basic exercises
b569ed No.15392848
>>15392838
They are probably going to go as low as they are now, if history is to teach us anything. The korean kikes at nvidia aren't going to let people just walk away with 1080 tis at any old price.
280cfe No.15392855
>>15392838
If it's anything like last generation 10xx series prices are going to bounce as soon as benchmarks land and people realize that they can get 70% of the performance for 50% of the price. 980tis are still like $300.
f6db42 No.15392870
>>15392855
I'm not holding my breath for AMD or Kikevida to give us something good.
e0360c No.15392871
But does it have RAAAAY TRACING?
>>15392847
I hate bullshit images like that to promote some diet/product that became a fad.
Keto has merits on its own, you don't need to make it seem like some wonder medicine that makes you jacked and grows your dick 4 inches.
>But technically working out at home isn't going to the gym :^)
It's this cult-like mentality of making something seem like more than it is to reel in more people that shits on something that can be good for you.
731d7c No.15392885
>>15392871
There are diets that do wonders, though, with no effort on the persons part and are cheap. I went on a diet of a banana or two in the morning and a fried lean chicken breast with vegetables and beansprouts and shit for dinner (no lunch because I wake up late) and I lose 15 pounds.
731d7c No.15392921
>>15392916
fuck you bananas are the best fruit
f3ad89 No.15392925
>>15392916
I really really like this image
101db9 No.15392959
>>15392774
>(((AMD)))
Dropped. Fuck off shill
b3a431 No.15392998
If AMD stops being retarded then they will return to their good old selves and give us an absurdly strong card that costs like $300 and BTFOs Nvidia's ovverpriced $2000 card.
a6dec4 No.15393007
>>15392959
What kind of fool do you take me for?
He's a shill, he's a shill, you're a shill–
–I'M a SHILL!
Are there any other SHILLS I know about!?!
88924e No.15393021
>>15392959
Oy vey, don't buy from the good old American company founded by an evil white man, goyim. Give your money to a Taiwanese/jew joint founded graphics card company instead!
f522cc No.15393195
>>15392998
Those times are pretty long gone. Going by RnD budgets they have barely any chance at this. Vega isn't a great architecture to begin with, the process bump can only do so much. As for the prices, as long as they're forced to use HBM2 those will stay relatively high as well. And they really have to get their shit together when it comes to drivers. I still hope for the best though. This generation is their best shot, once Nvidia has 7nm Turing they are fucked.
170410 No.15393207
oh wow more hardware that wont get utilized
01c524 No.15393222
265d50 No.15393238
>>15392779
Already did. RTX
AMD doesn't have that.
37cf17 No.15393253
>>15392774
OP, why the fuck should anyone care? Those bastards have practically abandoned their rx4xx cards. Hell, I think they only had updates specifically for those cards for 6 months. Fuck those niggers.
f522cc No.15393254
>>15393238
RTX is just the implementation for DirectX R, which is as open to Nvidia as it is open to AMD. Nvidia even personally suggested extensions to Khronos (Vulkan) which are being implemented by the end of the year. All AMD would have to do is put some raytrace ASICs on their dies and support existing APIs. And seeing as raytracing in games is hardly fleshed right now, waiting a year or two won't hurt them in that regard i think.
16d30c No.15393345
>>15392848
So now is the time to buy a GPU? I've been putting off on upgrading my old-ass computer from a shitty chip to an actual GPU. Should I go with AMD because I have an AMD processor?
b569ed No.15393400
>>15393345
RX 580 for ~200 USD on newegg, its not a vega but its goo enough for me.
d7aad3 No.15393573
d7aad3 No.15393578
>>15392774
Anyways, it's good to see AMD is starting to compete with Nvidia again. Nvidia really should've waited to roll out RTX with 7nm technology. That's really going to bite them in the ass when AMD comes out with all these numbers for current games that are impossible on a Turing card.
9c2eee No.15393624
>>15392774
All the power in the world can't save your hardware if you have shit drivers, even the fucking FLOSS drivers are better at this point.
828d62 No.15393635
>>15393345
not necessarily. you just don't want your GPU to be CPU-bound. if you're older than Bulldozer/Piledriver architectures, you may want to do some searching around. no sense in getting a better GPU if your CPU will not be able to pace it correctly.
000000 No.15393692
>>15393624
They're literally written by AMD employees.
a762e1 No.15393703
just lost 40% of what i paid for a 56 going back to a 1080, gonna wait for mcm cards now im only at 2k res get 60-100fps+
6dce6e No.15393710
>>15392871
>>15392847
>>15392885
All diets are memes
To fix your shit do three things
1. Look up what farmers feed their livestock to fatten them up. (Spoilers, it's corn and soybean feed.) Delete this from your diet, otherwise you will get fattened up like livestock.
2. Look up what foods your ancestors ate. This isn't a /pol/ meme, it's the fact that up until 300 odd years ago your ancestor only had access to a limited food pallet. And your stomach didn't evolve in that period if time. E.g. Indian people still have higher resistances to spices, and Europeans still have higher resistances to dairy products.
For example, the reason why Ameriga is so fucking fat is because all of it's people are being fed corn byproducts. Nobody outside of the Sacajawea natives are going to have any tolerances to corn, so whether you are 100% Aryan or 100% African your still going to get fat eating shit with corn byproducts.
3. Exercise you degenerate.
abdb21 No.15393711
I wouldn't be surprised if AMD did have a winner coming up. It seems like Nvidia loves to push some bullshit, proprietary technology right before it knows it's going to get its ass kicked. Without raytracing, 2000 series is a giant turd and an overpriced piece of shit.
b2043f No.15393712
>>15393682
>>15393636
This is why insults like soyboy, cuck, and faggot have lost any and all sting.
a762e1 No.15393714
so amd is gonna do its own ai raytraced stuff?
abdb21 No.15393720
>>15393714
Probably not this generation. It looks like Nvidia will be shilling raytracing and AMD will try and just make a fast card that runs modern games well. I find it odd Nvidia is doing this, AMD has tried to do this a lot of times, like cards that run DX11 very well and suck ass at DX9, only for people to buy cards that are better at DX9 because at the time there were no DX11 games.
a762e1 No.15393724
>>15393720
yeah and like how amd's cards stomped in vulkan/dx12 but sucked in dx11
Weird innit
Although amd has had this in pro circles since 2016
9c2eee No.15393795
>>15393692
So? doesn't change the fact that the windows drivers are a fucking trainwreck.
000000 No.15393815
WILL THE LINUX DRIVERS BE OPEN SOURCE?
000000 No.15393830
>>15393795
Which is why Nvidia has been the only company with multiple sets of drivers that killed video cards. You'd have a point if you were talking about the control panel being a buggy piece of shit, but Nvidia and AMD have sucked at that for several years now. Nvidia's control panel hasn't been stable since the Win9x/XP days, and Radeon Software's control panel is largely inferior to the Vista era catalyst one.
3bdac8 No.15393872
>>15393830
I miss catalyst. It was so clear and easy to use. With the new shit I get lost just trying to find basic settings.
a6dec4 No.15393875
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Reviewers can't open the 2080
Fucking give us benchmarks for this card already. Steve looks so embarassed in this video.
>>15393710
You could have said paleo in #2 without running in circles trying to explain yourself, anon.
>>15393682
Well, the Switch DOES use nvidia tech, so this works by proxy. It's still a cuckchan meme though.
15cca9 No.15393936
They are workstation cards, you fool.
a6dec4 No.15393962
>>15393936
>GPU supports intrinsic AI instructions
>'Do you want AMD to bring 7nm Vega to the gaming market?
>Which implies what we are seeing isn't specifically meant for gaming
I feel sad now.
a762e1 No.15393972
>>15393875
glad the last nvidia card i bought was a 1080
great card but nvidia are fucking scummy
9c2eee No.15393973
>>15393830
>Which is why Nvidia has been the only company with multiple sets of drivers that killed video cards
It's easier to not release duds when you're not fucking releasing drivers for months on end and basically not fixing shit anyway in the newer releases and that's when they're not breaking shit that worked before.
Also you should try and go into detail on those GPU killing drivers to see why you shouldn't take that scottish YTfag word for it..
Besides that has nothing to do with the AMD drivers gimping their GPUs.
>You'd have a point if you were talking about the control panel
How about a 60-80% performance penalty when using recent OGL versions, or a random 30-50% performance penalty on some DX11 programs with older gen cards, or the 4XX series being a complete clusterfuck on the driver side until the 5XX release, or several gen of the top of the line card having virtually no support until they stopped fucking it up with VEGA56/64 or even the simple fucking fact that even after all these years you still need DDU to upgrade drivers without issues when Nvidia somehow has managed not only to not have that fuck up anywhere near as often but also have a pseudo DDU installation mode for their drivers since fucking forever.
Nah better focus on something meaningless that is also shit on either side.
0e2a91 No.15393991
Even if Vega is good SFV still sucks
c0d545 No.15394008
>>15393875
With so many attempts to prevent honest reviews and so much focus on a gimmick few games will use in any significant way these boards must have some pretty underwhelming performance for the price.
000000 No.15394018
>AMD
Will it burn down your house?
f6db42 No.15394064
a762e1 No.15394202
>>15394030
>total system power
>on ishit
71e37d No.15394221
>>15392774
>>while NVIDIA does bullshit ray tracing
faa2f2 No.15394249
>>15392774
The compute gains don't fucking matter when the previous card is memory starved; partially because the technologies that were introduces with VEGA don't even fucking work. And probably don't even exist, (((AMD))) has been refusing to answer any questions on it.
7967a6 No.15394294
>>15394249
>technologies that were introduces with VEGA don't even fucking work. And probably don't even exist
Which technologies?
c0d545 No.15394356
Didn't AMD bet the farm on HBM2 which didn't turn out so good? Nvidia only used it for a Titan then went to GDDR6 but I don't know the details. For a tech that was hyped as the future it ended up the past awfully quick.
faa2f2 No.15394368
>>15394294
There's DSBR, which is supposed to be AMD's equivalent of tile based rendering, except it doesn't seem to do shit. It doesn't even give a performance gain in most games when turned on.
There's the whole Primitive shaders. Which was supposed to be a shader that can replace the Vertex shader and Geometry shader in the shader pipeline, but that doesn't seem to exist at all.
There's the NGG-fastpath, which basically makes shaders a bit more smart; only doing the bare minimum data loading & processing needed to determine whether the triangle in question is even visible, and only after that doing the other load&compute in the shader. This of course does not exist either.
Apparently, there was also gonna be the fun feature where AMD drivers would recompile Vertex & Geometry shaders into Primitive shaders when appropriate so devs don't even have to bother. But since Primitive shaders themselves don't even exist, neither does this shit.
I might get some details down as I'm not an expected, but granted, nobody else is, since AMD is refusing to answer any questions on the subject.
faa2f2 No.15394371
>>15394368
>I might get some details down as I'm not an expected, but granted, nobody else is, since AMD is refusing to answer any questions on the subject.
fuck my english
>I might get some details wrong as I'm not an expert
19736f No.15394445
>>15392774
WHERE ARE THE VEGA DRIVERS YOU DUMB FUCKS
79d24f No.15394455
>>15392848
>bought an rx 580 at bitcoin marked up prices
19736f No.15394461
>>15392847
Any diet that throws out grains is good
0e2149 No.15394581
000000 No.15394741
Fuck that. I want a 15w 7nm APU.
243e96 No.15394778
>>15392925
Go ahead and save it, it's yours!
ea4038 No.15394857
>>15392778
The 1.25x raw power claim doesn't seem outlandish when considering the specs of past generations of AMD&nvidia GPUs, AMD usually has the advantage in computing resources while nvidia relies on developer/shillsumer bribery, driver shittery and proprietary sabotage.
ea4038 No.15394891
>>15394455
>bought an r9 390 for sub-$300 dollars way before the cryptoshitter gold rush
eed662 No.15394901
Not getting it till they fix OpenGL
inb4 >AMD >fixing ogl
a4bffc No.15394918
>>15394901
>using OpenGL
>not using Vulkan
49d260 No.15394942
>>15394368
>expecting novel AMD tech to implemented in a meaningful fashion outside of anti-semitic tech demos
How new.ru?
dab7fc No.15394950
>>15394891
I admit being jelly, I mean I'd need to upgrade, and well, I'm just fucked, why even live
1c782f No.15397009
>buy 1080
>ryzen 7 1700
>Make mistake of going 1440p 144hz instead of 1080p 144hz
>nearly every game I run is at ~90 fps
Even though it's higher than 60 I still feel upset over not being able to hit 144 with most of my games. fucking hell
3dc27d No.15397062
That card launching this year is a professional workstation card, 32GB of HBM2 is certainly not for the consumer market. Navi for gaming will be probably a year from now.
2018c8 No.15397129
>>15393254
>waiting a year or two won't hurt them in that regard i think.
>implying retards care about such things and won't just jump on the marketing
I don't even want to buy a new GPU, it is not like I have anything to play with it anyway, but I just might need to do so soon. Too bad the prices for even the last gen GPUs are probably not going to fall much if at all. I hate it.
1c782f No.15397257
>>15397101
I figured my cpu wasn't good enough to be paired with the 1080 so getting a better one would be an even worse bottleneck
db3fec No.15397458
>>15393710
My ancestors ate a lot fish but todays fish are full of mercury and poison, all food today is one way or another poisoned, I don't know what the fuck to eat I'm really discouraged by food, if I didn't have to eat I wouldn't.
44634a No.15397549
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72deac No.15397558
>>15397549
http://archive.is/0Pp9r
It would be fucking awful if this is real. It basically confirmed what we already knew, christ.
49d260 No.15397604
>>15397549
>leaked directly by nvidia
>mfw
Are you ready for cinematic 30 fps when gay tracing on the highest settings, 97 °C average temp when under load, misleading adverts regarding VRAM size and Intel-tier proprietary hardware vulns?
What sort of TDP can one realistically expect from the RTX series anyhow?
b3a431 No.15397619
>>15397549
wew it's even more trash than I thought it would be
2018c8 No.15397734
>>15397604
250W for the TI. It is on their site.
0d98f0 No.15397767
>>15392774
Fuck off op you didn't even read the article.
faa2f2 No.15399007
>>15394942
Yeah, except there isn't even a tech demo or anything. And supposedly the features would not require any extra developer work.
6cba25 No.15399339
6998dc No.15399461
>>15397558
1080Ti came out like 6 months ago not 2 years, ofcourse it won't be 20%+ gain.
2b1377 No.15399986
>>15394918
GO TELL THAT TO THE FUCKING PCSX2 DEVELOPERS
IM NOT USING OGL BECAUSE I WANT TO YOU DUMB FUCK, THIS IS NOT UP TO THE USER
876c0c No.15400192
>>15397009
>>Make mistake of going 1440p 144hz instead of 1080p 144hz
It's funny when people say that 1440p144 is the sweetspot between 1080p and 4k. It's more demanding than 4k.
6998dc No.15400214
>>15400192
4K60hz is not an option when you choose 1440p144hz or 1080p240hz. If you said 4K120 or 4K144hz, those monitors are very good.
4ee259 No.15400326
>>15394008
to drive up sales and pre-orders directly for nvidia themselves instead of nvidias own partners. why else?
a6dec4 No.15402773
d2dafa No.15402810
>>15393238
RTX is mostly meme tech.
Raytracing is pretty lighting and reflections, and the rest is made up marketing shit so the list of games that support "RTX-Technology" is longer.
Its the Hairworks of lighting.
a6dec4 No.15403066
>>15402810
So it won't be around in 5 years?
2fe6bd No.15403492
>>15393238
RTX is a whole lot of nothing.
Did you ever stop thinking "i wish i could see the reflection of an explosion going on out of screen"? You didn't. And people that are unaware of rtx won't stop thinking "wow i see the reflection of the explosion".
Nvidia is overhyping something nobody would actually notice.
decd5d No.15403675
>>15392837
>get 1070/1080 performance in the 200 to 400 range
If they priced that performance at that range the cryptominers would snatch them all up with their rat-bag hands like the niggers they are.
e16a59 No.15403739
>New nvidia cards
>New AMD cards
Why should I care?
b58d0a No.15404433
I'm retarded, is this Navi or is that something else?
4ee259 No.15404450
>>15403675
Miners haven't been buying cards since the vega release. I think you're right. Beause nvidia cards to my knowledge are shit at cryptomining for some reason.
God damnit I dont want to upgrade and spend more money.
542789 No.15404454
>>15404433
It's just another version of Vega, for enterprise. Navi would probably be late next year as a guess.
f3883f No.15404480
eabea9 No.15404599
>>15404433
>>15404454
Navi is apparently supposed to release alongside the 7nm Zen 2 CPUs next year.
a6dec4 No.15406577
a6dec4 No.15407945
a6dec4 No.15407952
>>15407950
Correct. They're TECHNICALLY inferior, but they are optimized like a smooth bitch.
ae7186 No.15407966
>>15392959
>>15392779
(((graphics cards)))
>not bypassing the motherboard graphics check with a fork stuck in the pcie slot
>not soldering on a chip which converts all graphics signals into pc speaker beeps
>not being able to 720' noscope headshot someone on the next server after hearing "clicklcikcicikcbeepebepbepelcickkclclleikepeeeeeeeecklickpebeep"
Casual gamers.
ac942d No.15407968
>>15407950
From what I've gathered, AMD is usually cheaper but has less support, NVIDIA is more expensive but you're getting better tech and support.
a6dec4 No.15407994
http://archive.is/uEbYA
Weird, the nvidia 2080 store page isn't there.
You guys think they're changing the price?
f3883f No.15408003
>>15407950
If AMD is actually competitive, rather than being a harmless strawman nVidia just keeps around to prevent the DoJ from launching an antitrust suit, that means prices will go down and performance will go up.
Still, what we'd need to make things genuinely competitive is extra entrants, like if some of the cowards hiding in the mobile market (Mali, Adreno, PowerVR, etc.) started making discrete desktop GPUs again.
1c793e No.15408008
thats a workstation card op
but
whatever NVIDIA creates theres support but also horrible performance, Gameworks is slow even on their own lower end hardware
whatever AMD creates they usually make the right bets but it takes like decade for industry to catch up, HBM2 and 7nm cards as mainstream is crazy but probably possible in few years for everyone else
this time its NVIDIA pushing Ray Tracing so its possible industry will adopt it faster because of them pushing it, so AMD must be working on their own cards that support this, unlike the other way around they cant wait because once NVIDIA introduces something they push it hard on everyone else
but AMD has opportunity now to introduce 7nm GPU that will destroy like 1080ti/2070 but will cost like half the price
same situation they had with Zen architecture and Ryzen CPUs, hopefully it comes before they lose the opportunity window
955309 No.15408013
>>15393710
>Nobody outside of the Sacajawea natives are going to have any tolerances to corn
then why are so many featherniggers obese?
955309 No.15408028
>>15392885
>eating 700 calories a day made me lose weight
no shit?
f3883f No.15408041
955309 No.15408049
>>15408041
oh yeah, thats true
b462a5 No.15421150
>>15408049
They're like mexicans really
f3ad89 No.15421185
>>15408003
>what we'd need to make things genuinely competitive is extra entrants
You ready to buy an Intel CPU
f3ad89 No.15421189