/v/ - Video Games

Shill somewhere else.

God damn that is really neat. Unfortunately, knowing today's indies, we're probably just gonna get way more lazy pixelshit but with nicer particle effects.

They can't even make a decent sprite sheet manually I don't have faith in them making nice voxel models that translate well like the Vagante guys.

But is it usable without bootleg Python yet?

>animate 3d models

>make 2d garbage at low res

WHY

This has nothing to do with engines you retard. And if you're going to make SNK large, high quality pixel art you're going to use proper rigged models or hand-drawn frame references not fucking voxels.

>>15390954

MIT

>>15390954

Supposedly entirely open, meaning you own everything and don't pay a dime, but that just usually means that you yourself are the product in one way or another.

>>15390957

>>15390952

It's basically a tool made on godot that takes a voxel animation and makes it pixel art.

>>15390960

godot makes more than 9k per month on patreon.

>>15390958

Hey, that's pretty good!

>>15390925

This is pretty cool, but you're fooling yourself if you think this is SNK-tier.

>>15390960

It's legit no strings attached.

>>15390972

I'm sure it is, but I wonder how long it will stay that way. It's in its' infancy so I'm sure they'll get offers of buyouts the moment a few indieshit hits pop out, and you know what'll happen then.

>>15390980

that's like trying to buy GIMP, is a community software.

Godot main dev already makes enough from patreon every month as to not worry about money.

>>15390980

It's open source, nigga.

They try to make it paid and someone just "copies" all the code and releases another free "Not-Godot".

>>15390954

>What's Godot's license terms again?

you can make the most degenerate game you can imagine and godot wouldnt give a fuck.

With unreal engine they dont allow shit that will hurt their fee fees, i dont know about unity

>>15390962

Will this allow us to relive the good old days of Fire Emblem sprites?

>>15390925

Doesn't Game Maker 2 have something like that?

>>15391016

leftists love degenerate porn.

>>15391039

Which contradicts my statement how exactly?

You can use unreal for whatever the fuck you want as long as you paid for it.

>>15391041

why don't you read your post again then ? Fucking retard

>>15391047

>GODOT's scripting language is ugly

Really? You clearly haven't used any other game engine then.

>>15390925

NICE!

Always work to ruin corporations and let the open source prevail.

>>15390952

Because 2D is better.

And it is so difficult and costly that only a few people will be able to do it properly, leaving the hacks starving to death, as they should.

>>15391064

But I have. C++/C# syntax > Python-like syntax

>>15390976

Pretty funny to me that the "sprite aesthetic" has devolved so far that the best way to make it is to just squish true 3D, never forget that once upon a time things were the other way around.

>>15390980

You can't retroactively buyout an open source, only make future development a closed product; at which point public support of Godot would end and openGodot would start development, without losing any progress.

>>15391115

please stop falseflagging /pol/, they get enough shit already. There are so many other things you could be doing to get (you)s.

>>15391088

Those aren't the Native scripting languages of GODOT's competition. Stop moving goalposts.

And besides, you can script using C++/C# in GODOT if it bothers you that much.

>>15391124

>Those aren't the Native scripting languages of GODOT's competition

What do you consider to be GODOT's main competition? Because Unity(and most recent game engines) has C# scripting. Unreal has C++/Blueprint system. And most frameworks like SFML are C++

>And besides, you can script using C++/C# in GODOT if it bothers you that much

I'll have to look into it then

>>15391123

Technology evolves, better to simply make better tools for pixel art than using legacy workflows.

It's like saying that better graphics are bad.

>>15391016

Oh wait, its was from Live2D

>http://cubism3.live2d.com.s3-website-ap-northeast-1.amazonaws.com/download_en.html

>The Software cannot be used by any individual or entity that is or has ever been fully or partially operated or supported by any antisocial force (e.g. organized crime groups, corporate racketeers and other antisocial organizations or persons);

>The Customer may not otherwise engage in any acts which Live2D judges inappropriate.

but i did find this funny thing in unreal engine

https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/eula

>The royalty is based on gross revenue from end users, regardless of whether you sell your Product to end users directly, self-publish via the App Store or any similar store, or work with a publisher. The following simplified example illustrates the application of the royalty to gross sales: if your Product earns $10 on the App Store, Apple may pay you $7 (having deducted 30% as a distribution fee), but your royalty to Epic would still be 5% of $10 (or $0.50).

>E. No Refunds

Also the thing about hatred removing the Epic logo, because Epic told them to do it.

http://archive.is/xDgi5

Found this about Unity

https://unity3d.com/legal/terms-of-service

>Unity will have the right in its sole discretion, and without prior notice to you, to suspend or disable your Unity Account or terminate the Agreement and/or your right or ability to access or use any of the Services if: (a) you breach this Agreement; (b) your use of the Services poses a security risk to, or otherwise adversely impacts, the Services or any third party; (c) your use of the Services subjects Unity, our affiliates or any third party to liability; (d) your use of the Services may be fraudulent; (e) you have ceased to operate in the ordinary course, made an assignment for the benefit of creditors or similar disposition of your assets, or become the subject of any bankruptcy, reorganization, liquidation, dissolution or similar proceeding.

The privacy thingy is a gold mine for good goys

https://unity3d.com/legal/privacy-policy

>Unity Ads has probably collected device information, like IP address and device identifiers, and information regarding the delivery of ads and your interaction with them, all of which may be shared with ad publishers and attribution companies.

>>15391147

This looks surprisingly good. I'm sure "indie" devs will mange to fuck it up, but otherwise I'm hoping something good comes out of it.

>>15391186

people can't imagine how time expensive is to manually draw every sprite.

Imagine a simple 100x100 sprite, that shit would take at least one hour to make.

Now imagine a fighting game where every character has 400 of such sprites.

Now imagine making a full fighting game with 20 characters.

>>15391016

Porn games are allowed to a certain extent but there's nothing preventing Epic from claiming that their use of the license is damaging to their brand and is against the terms of service. Ever since that Hatred game put a giant Unreal engine logo right at the beginning of their trailer they changed the license from 4.7.2 onwards and can terminate the contract at a whim if you're using the standard license, the type that most porn and indie games use.

Their license says that you need to display their trademark on your product using their engine but there's also a provision that says you're not allowed to use their trademark if it's potentially damaging to their brand image.

>You agree to retain and reproduce in all copies of the Licensed Technology the copyright, trademark, and other proprietary notices and disclaimers of Epic and third parties as they appear in the Engine Code and the Content.

>No other license or right in the Epic Trademarks is granted under this Agreement. All use of the Epic Trademarks will inure to the sole benefit of Epic. You agree not to engage in any activity that could tarnish, dilute, or affect the validity or enforceability of the Epic Trademarks or cause consumer confusion or diminish any goodwill relating to any Epic Trademarks.

https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/eula

>While all licensees can enter into the Unreal Engine trademark license, please note that we withhold the right to refuse permission to use our trademarks on a case-by-case basis for projects that are inconsistent with Epic’s brand image (e.g., games with an anticipated ESRB rating higher than M, pornography, extreme violence, etc.). Please check with us if you are unsure if your project fits these requirements.

https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/branding/

Since this was somewhat related to gamergate(SJWs demanding that Hatred be taken down) several lawyers have looked this over and agree that they can shut down any game or project they want thanks to their trademark clause unless they're on a custom license.

>>15391135

To be fair, Unreal's native scripting language was UnrealScript/UScript and Unity's was UnityScript. GODOT is much younger than both to have rinsed away their original scripting language after gaining mainstream acceptance. Hell, Unity still hasn't completely done it.

As I said, you clearly don't know much about either GODOT, Unity or Unreal.

>>15391203

Is that the original Gamemaker Eula or is that the Yoyo Game's Gamemaker 2 by Yoyo Games

>>15391213

that looks so soulless

>>15391174

Godot should have gone with a mecha girl.

>>15391221

Crash never had a soul anyway, and that looks just like him. Stop parroting things just to fit in

>>15391217

doesnt it apply to everything?

>>15391239

Yeah but playtech are kinda faggots so it wouldn't surprise me if this was a post-takeover thing

>>15390960

It's fully open source nigger, you can build it from source

>>15390925

While GODOT is good for not having a license fee- wasn't there drama around then being cucked somehow (over what language they used, but I don't see how that could be).

In any case, like this guy says >>15390943 the workman is more important than the tools- even some good stuff has come from some abysmal engines.

Though anything that stops feeding Unreal and Unity is fine by me. Competition breeds better products.

>>15391147

>>15391186

That is really cool, but I'd take a hand-drawn game like Wario Land Shake It over pixel art. Especially if you now don't even need to be good at making pixel art to get away with it, judging by this.

Then again it's kinda like Donkey Kong Country. What happens when you put a bad drawing in it?

>>15391210

>Unreal's native scripting language was UnrealScript/UScript

Which was a lot closer to C++/Java syntax than Python

>Unity's was UnityScript

Which only existed to ease non-programmers in. Unity always encouraged everyone to use C# instead

>As I said, you clearly don't know much about either GODOT, Unity or Unreal.

Such a weird and condescending comment to make. I don't know why you're so upset

>>15391366

>azuka

Cristian, what the fuck are you doing man

>>15391366

why would you post pictures of yourself designing a trashcan?

>>15391366

you know arms generally end at the hip, right?

>>15391377

why is funny?

>>15391384

some sprites for an evangelion ripoff game.

>>15391386

what do u mean?

>>15391391

Gay names are funny as fuck.

>>15391390

depends if you're not straight vertically. (imagine if you lean forward).

>>15391395

her arms are like twice the length of the torso, it doesn't even line up with your ref.

>>15391399

that's foreshortening, she's lean forward.

>>15391147

Is there any more stuff like this?

>>15391456

I think it says a lot that

Dexter's lab and Samurai Jack both had the same artists as directors

And he went to Cal Arts

>>15391432

dogs are one of life's greatest joys

>>15391011

>With unreal engine they don't allow shit that will hurt their fee fees

You just can't associate your game with the engine. You can't put stuff like "Made with Unreal Engine".

But they are owned by Tencent, so that might change

>>15391161

>Unity will have the right in its sole discretion, and without prior notice to you, to suspend or disable your Unity Account or terminate the Agreement and/or your right or ability to access or use any of the Services if:

They would never use this to censor someone.

If they dare, there will be a super massive exodus to other engines. Not that big tech is not known for putting feels before reals and going broke after going woke, though

Also, they would need a lot of lawyer talk to manage to fit 'this produces super masculinity, so it is a liability to us, that helped you make this' to be able to use the clause

>>15391500

I bet (;

>>>/zoo/

>>15390925

Godot is nice, but fuck off shilling for those proprietary programs.

>>15391210

Did you just wake up from a comma?

when did you last check a calendar? 2011?

>>15391147

>make this stuff in godot

>export to png

>use in unity

CHECKMATE

>they change to godot proprietary format

>read the source code and make a translator

CHECK AND MATE EVEN IN FUTURE

>godot is MIT, which translates to: do whatever you fucking want with this shit

>port the particle thingy and sell in Unity's asset store

TURBO CHECKED AND MATED WITH UR'S MOM

not so sure about this last one though

>>15391682

>seriously thinking using the microtransactions engine in 2019

kek

>>15391696

as 'non free' that it is, it still saved me so much time, that i'd still be at engine making step right now

as if ledge interactions are not engine step

>>15390925

Godot seems really good and has advanced a lot lately. I hope those Argentinian dudes keep up the good work and don't cuck out.

>>15390925

Looks cool. Too bad the result will be more indie "devs" having a higher chance of duping people with flashy animations into buying their non-games

>>15390954

Just standard MIT

>>15391011

Yep. So far most commercial usage is in the gambling industry though.

>>15391011

>With unreal engine they dont allow shit that will hurt their fee fees

All they do is make you remove the unreal engine logo from the game. Why lie about stupid shit?

>>15391047

It's just Javascript with classes.

>>15392825

It's a form of implicit python you doofus

>>15391499

When it wasn't pozzed as hell, but the whole point is Cartoons actually looked like they had soul back then.

>>15391366

It's Asuka not Azuka, Cristian

Beefy

>>15391174

UE4 bot looks better than both of them.

>generic pixel shaders

>new

The only thing new here is you.

>>15398946

Both of them are shit.

>>15391366

>>>/loomis/

Don't stop, your gonna make it man.

>>15399298

He said MIT, aka "you have complete freedom my friend" license. Not GNU, aka "you better obey the rules you cuck" license.

>>15399458

MIT, aka "take my code for free and use it in your proprietary botnet"

>>15399459

>like it's something bad

>>15399459

Yes, indeed. Anyone is free to pick up code and use it in their proprietary botnet.

That nobody will join because there's plenty of other alternatives made from the same code that are open source anyway.

You're entirely free to waste your time and make a fool of yourself trying to profit from the work of others in a terrible way, but the free market will kick your shin when anyone can make a better, more open alternative to your shit.

>>15399515

>when anyone can make a better, more open alternative to your shit

Call me when someone makes a better more open alternative to Photoshop. Companies operating for profit will always make higher quality software than neckbeards in their basements. And normalfags will always use what's more convenient and shiny looking, so your code will end up feeding corporate fatasses and perpetuating datamining and walled off development while you get fuck all from it.

>inb4 muh linux

sub-5% market share

>inb4 muh marketing

>>15399522

Tell me something Photoshop does that Gimp or OpenPaint don't.

Because Photoshop is just the Kardashian of image editing, it's used and famous because it's used and famous, nothing else. Prior to that and still to these days there's Corel Draw, believe it or not, because to most people working what matters isn't how good something is but how familiar it is to them.

I heard that godot was still shit as it's inheritance based and the animation is garbage. Has that changed?

>look into it further

>based on… OpenGL ES 3.0?

Some sort of joke it seems. Enjoy your open sores.

>>15399664

Oh, so Photoshop has a subjective feature that appeals to your taste, therefore it's better for everyone, uh?

Last I checked, the GUI for Gimp at least was fully customizable so you can tweak to what you actually prefer and I'm not so sure you can do the same with Photoshop.

Do you actually think this is an argument in your favor? Because you better check your feet, I' think you've shot them again.

>>15399675

>LARP

You keep using that word, I don't think you know what it means.

>you'll constantly get reality checks

Still waiting for them since so far it's nothing but your wild imagination and unsubstanciated claims or subjective opinions.

I'd say it's more like the other way, you'll keep using Photoshop but often will see these reality checks where someone reminds you there's a free alternative that's possibly better, you're just too familiar with Photoshop to change.

>How much market share of gimp vs photoshop?

Yes, yes. A million flies can't be wrong. You know, the reason Microsoft doesn't crack down on piracy of Windows in personal PCs is because they don't care, it's just becoming more familiar to their users to the point that when they go to work, it's Windows that they'll use because that's what they know. And the corporate licenses to use Windows, that's where the paychecks come from.

Do you think there might be something similar here with Photoshop? Maybe even with Apple giving them a hand too?

>I will be over here, using actually usable programs over 'muh freedumbs' license circlejerk from reddit.

Might as well change to Mac as well, while you're at it. I hear "it just works" a lot after all.

>>15399591

>the animation is garbage.

i think it supposedly got huge improvements, i haven't gotten far enough to try them yet, though (i'm not yet a true dev).

>>15399694

You're getting trolled hard.

>>15399187

Then you're a misatofag?

>>15390925

>not writing your own engine

>>15406207

I'm sorry robodev, I still haven't bought your game.

pretty