/v/ - Video Games

maybe not exclusively, but pound for pound, I have more fun with them. turning development into an industry was a mistake.

Do we count games like Tomato or Nioh as AAA?

>>15379574

Why wouldn't NiOh be triple ayyy? developed by Team Ninja at Koei Tecmo, published by Sony. what the fuck is Tomato?

im not going to make it a point to only play indie games. but they usually eat up more of my time these days.

indie games have to sell themselves on something more than the latest graphics and orchestras. i get a lot of mileage out of their soundtracks.

i dont know if well get a "golden age" out of it, but theyll keep blowing wind into our busted up sails.

wish we would see more indie strategy games. im eager to see how ai war 2 will turn out.

also a lot of the indie games that tend to grasp me lean pretty heavily on procedural generation. it doesnt bother me but i think its interesting.

is it really easier to design such a generator than it is to hand craft levels?

this might be better to post in the dead cells thread but it seems rather dead. but can anyone tell me why grenade cooldowns are so damn long compared to other skills? they dont seem inherently more powerful.

what am i missing?

Hard to find indies that are any good.

I just stick to older games, up to the PS1, and working on my own game as well.

>>15379638

>Why wouldn't NiOh be triple ayyy?

Because what makes AAA games are the budgets the game gets, otherwise we'd be calling cuphead a AAA game because Microsoft gave them a small cash advance and helped publish it.

Oh yes, the (((indies)))

>>15379826

>>15379840

>>15379860

Jesus christ what is that sentence

What I meant: Characters that were essentially completely changed had their new/old attributes put onto new characters

The thing about most "indie" games is that they still use their butt-buddy Silicon Valley connections. Usually I try to avoid the hipster clique indie pixel shit when I can. And yes even bad games can sometimes be interesting. That doesn't make those good games, but I can sometimes see where the idea goes.

last AAA game i played was Persona 5

there were also a few fighting games like the new Guilty Gear and nuDoom but those were mostly at friends houses

my toaster of a PC can only run low budget indies…

and honestly i can't complain, sure there's a metric fuck ton of bullshit but when has this not being the case?

AVGN wouldn't have a show if retro gaming have had nothing but good vidya

>>15379853

cool. so what was NiOh's budget and what is the threshold for AAA games so we can establish where it stands?

>>15379853

ive seen posts saying that shantae is not an indie game due to having publishing by capcom. although their latest game is self published. is that accurate?

>fooling yourself into thinking indie games are somehow better

They’re both shit.

>>15380045

>due to having publishing by capcom. although their latest game is self published. is that accurate?

From what i understand, the game was already done by the time capcom got involved, and all they did was hold the game back 8 months then print out the bare minimum of the game.

>>15380043

>cool. so what was NiOh's budget and what is the threshold for AAA games so we can establish where it stands?

No idea, development sounded like a DNF-tier clusterfuck.

>>15379826

this.

>>15379574

No, those are AA

>>15380455

are you joking?

>>15380448

Reminder that Nuclear Throne's devs are social justice Twitter bitches that made half the characters female for no reason. The game is fun enough though, so do whatever the fuck you want.

>>15380512

>implying that there isnt someone jacking off to crystals butt right now

>>15380525

The end result was good, but the reason it was done is bullshit. Trying to push some weird diversity quota by retroactively changing a character's sex isn't acceptable no matter how much you want to fuck the self-cloning backpack mummy or the sentient geode.

>>15380512

I have no idea how you'd know the characters' sex without looking it up on a wiki or something. I don't read twitter so I don't care about anything outside of the game. If I happen to hear that the devs are soy drinking marxists then I'll refrain from buying it, but that's the extent of my caring.

>>15380551

>dick is not a good reason

did you know the whole reason we got squid lolis is because nintendo wanted more female main characters? sometimes good things are going to come out of this. it doesnt serve you to deny it.

I haven't wasted my time on AAA trash since ~2007.

it wasn't a conscious decision, but thinking about the past few months I haven't played anything but indie games

been playing a lot of Rimworld and Underrail

also older AAA games like Supreme Commander

most mainstream game that I've been playing I guess is endless space 2

My friends all have PS4s and the big AAA movies, so I'll occasionally play some when I'm at their place. Otherwise I mostly play my PS1/PS2/GameCube/SNES/PC games. I do have a Switch which I guess still counts. Hotline Miami and The Binding of Isaac are two of my favourite "modern" games, though.

>>15379653

>Here, let me shill a boring overrated game in a thread it clearly doesn't fucking belong in real quick

>>15379719

Grenade cooldowns are affected by a different, brutality-based cooldown trait than the skills. Chalk that up to the devs seeing purple dominated everything and nerfed the shit out of it along the updates.

>>15379860

The XBLA version is great and eventually be available through emulation at least.

>>15381171

>filename

Fuck off back to >>>/cuckchan/

In terms of sheer volume, there's more shit indies than shit AAA. Just look at the weekly releases on Steam. Though the percentages of at least "alright" to garbage are depressingly high in both categories.

AA is the sweetspot. Enough freedom for the development team to get permission to fling shit against the wall to see what sticks, while still maintaining accountability for the investment. Yet not enough of a budget that it ends up crushing their game under the weight of having to pander to the absolute lowest of common denominators for maximum sales potential and still end up filled to the brim with microtransactions.

Indie shit? Poorly writen poorly voice acted hipster trash?

>>15395111

Agreed. AA still has a budget to hire some artists.

>>15395066

Oi dubsman, the (u) button exists you know?

Not exactly defining proof of cuckchan.

>>15395111

AA tends to have the best quality to quantity ratio yeah.

Scams at the end of the day require no budget so its not shocking a large amount of indies end up as them.

A lot of indies also tend to be half baked and basically "X classic game but with a gimmick and bad design and sometimes even bad controls usually also starring shitty hamfisted writing".

Wasn't there also a thing where a lot of indies cuck to journos because they need advertisement?

A couple of passion projects does not save a range of shit.

>>15380512

>made half the characters female for no reason

I know, right! It's almost like they think half of the people in the world are female or something…

Anyway, yeah, almost everything I play these days is indie. A lot of pixelshit indie, too, because I don't give a crap about graphics; what I do care about is file-size. I don't have the best internet connection, so don't feel like waiting a day to download something that is 20GB. A good game that is less than a gig is nice. Almost everything I've played in the last few years has been builder and simulation indie games. Kerbal Space Program, Starbound, Factorio, Rimworld, Subnautica, DF, TerraTech, Limbo, Stardew Valley Undertale, and those are just the ones I remember. A lot of these scratch an autism itch that just would never happen in normalfag games, because they don't appeal to normalfags so aren't profitable to market to a wide audience.

Not sure whether or not to classify Minecraft as indie, though. It's like an indie game that has now been given AAA polish (and AAA bullshit like poor optimization, pointless grinding, and threat of microtransactions).

And approaching that question from the other direction, while SimCity4 was a AAA game as it was developed by post-EA Maxis, I'm running it with so many fucking mods that were community-made, that it's more like a AAA game wrapped in indie goodness now, and barely recognizable in both appearance and function as the vanilla game.