/v/ - Video Games

I've been replaying Dynasty Warriors Gundam Reborn recently, since I learned that a select few characters get a skill that get you better parts. One of my problems with the game was that maxing out suit stats was an unbearable grind.

>>15376956

I'm thinking of picking up SRW V because I think playing as characters from Cross Ange would be hilarious. How was that one?

>>15377030

I liked it, it's pretty easy, but it does do a lot of Cross Ange, plus crossover shenanigans with Gundam Seed.

>>15376956

I'm play jap anime songs version. Kallen animation is best and yoko for jiggle. I like reconguista characters and songs. Reraia animation is good. I spam char and masaki aoe so will never have many ace characters. Don't know about story since I can't jap.

>>15377030

Cross Ange characters kinda disappointing. Jill doesn't have many attacks. They were in V too.

Sadly haman isn't in and not many attacks for peru in gundam zz. Mashymre animation is cool.

Fug, when did the previous thread die?

any of you fags still playing border break or did the gachashit scare you away? this week's map is pretty good

>>15376956

i really liked X way more than i thought i would

>>15377098

I'm okay with that since I'm one of those rare and controversial madmen that liked Seed. They've got UC stuff as always so I think I'm going to take the plunge.

>>15377330

>i really liked X way more than i thought i would

So did I eventually. I thought that bringing in series from alternate universes instead of creating a single self-contained world with everything was lazy, but they use the opportunity to do some interesting things, like having characters talk about their own deaths and get some closure for their existence. Mashymre's moment after being recruited was especially touching.

>>15376956

How good is the Mazinkaiser in X anyways? I've seen like they only give the Emperor and Kaiser only one combination attack…but how does it run?

>>15377556

considering they brought back kaiser it handles well

>>15376956

Reco in G? Ain't it supposed to happen after Turn A (which I recall was supposed to be the finale of every Gundam series). So much for Turn A being the Last Gundam series, huh?

>>15377579

What is that, anon?

>>15377556

10% base energy regen, upgrades to 20%, Super Alloy Z adds another 10%, magic ability gives everyone 10% HP and EN regeneration.

Fire blasters for days.

>>15377587

Holy shit, that's even better than Alpha 3 and W's Mazinkaiser. Still got Mazin Power, right?

>>15377586

No, G-Reco is post-UC, but not yet CC. It's about everyone agreeing to put the old era of mobiloe suits to rest while Earth and the colonies chill, then the spacenoids start another conquest just because they felt like it. It's all rather pointless by the end.

>>15377590

No special ability to speak of, it's just really strong as it is.

>>15377586

an RX-0

Hope you like being one shotted because thats what it does and I'm getting flashbacks to the dark days the the RX-78NT-1

>>15377590

Have to remember most modern SRW are piss easy to play.

>>15377624

Piss easy is right. HP Regen and Energy regen on the Mazinger units? It's like they're asking you to just use the Mazinger units.

>>15377632

And the regen goes to L? Yeah…I guess they ripped out Mazin Power out of the Mazinger units for a good reason.

>>15377632

well even in @G it had HP regen but since you got Kaiser and shin getter late game it was kinda a given IIRC it's not even a L regen it's S and L is pretty much bosses only and sangar's unit

>>15377579

>battlefield with gendum skin shilling continues

Nobody gives a fuck about your dead p2w garbage, shlomo.

>>15381440

>being mad at video games

I think you're just upset because you can't play it. Ya got a case of the sour grapes friend

>>15381452

Again, so much for Turn A being the finale of the Gundam series.

>>15382145

It's okay, just pretend G-reco doesn't exist like everyone else did.

>>15377579

DID THEY ACTUALLY PUT POST CCA SHIT IN MSGO?

Anybody ever play MSG: Senshitachi no Kiseki for Gamecube? Never released outside of Nipland but it looks fun, like Another Century's Episode but with only Mobile Suits. Takes place during the One Year War and has a Federation and Zeon campaign. I'm trying like hell to find an ISO of it somewhere but no luck so far.

>>15382326

Here ya go.

https://1fichier.com/?foh9iao9pp

https://1fichier.com/?7yvg9qqbxz

>>15382368

Nah, the stuff I've gotten from this site is good, enjoy it for the next month or so before it gets so popular it gets canned.

More here in case there's something else you want.

https://8ch.net/v/res/15374371.html#15376154

>>15382318

yep

Feds have RX-0 and Zeon has sinanju but RX-0 is balls to the walls stronger, and it's NT-D mode seems to be a gauge you fill then spend. I dunno if you can do it multiple times in one deploy with the unit but in NT-D it gains anti-stagger and a fuckload of boost

RX-0 gets access to not only it's beam magnum but the beam gatling which just chews through shit worse than the Alex ever did. and it seems to be a insta switch so the usual set up is

>Beam magnum

>twin beam gatling shield

>Bazooka/head vulcans/beam saber

You can pretty much melt with the first two and the last one seems to be a situational throw away

What are your hopes for DAEMON X MACHINA?

So someone finally dumped the DLC included version of Gundam Breaker 3 for PS4. Do I have to do anything to transfer my save from the base game or do I just install it?

>>15383574

I hope it will be on something other than the Switch, but that's hopeless anyway. In any case having more AC clones out there isn't a bad thing.

>>15384038

I'm actually only just now getting into Gundam, games and anime. I'm a little over halfway through 0079 and it's odd because I'm trying to avoid games that take place during it to avoid spoilers. Never had that problem before. Either way it's some good shit, got a couple games on PSP and that one on GC on the backlog to check out that look pretty good.

>>15384073

I know someone translated SD Gundam G Generation Overworld. So, grab a PSP emulator (before the purge gets them) and get that rom, anon.

>>15384139

Didn't know about that one, I already grabbed Gundam vs. Gundam Next Plus and Gundam Battle Universe for PSP. Any other good ones on PSP I don't know about?

>>15384194

Well, the SD Gundam games are sorta like Super Robot Wars that it's a tactical RPG but where it differs is that you could swap units etc. Oh, and I do know there's a Gihren's Greed on PSP.

>>15381452

Tomino says a lot of things. So far we haven't seen the REAL G Reco and we have to wait to the movies that are totally going to come out any second now

>>15384073

Depends on the games. Some of the games are basically side stories and outside of some story beats, actually completely side step the main story. Zeonic Front for one. I think most of the side story games didn't get translated, though.

>>15389554

Right, the closest you'll get to experiencing the side stories is SD Gundam GGeneration Genesis, which covers a lot of them with the exceptions of Advance of Zeta and Gundam Sentinel.

>>15383574

Slow armored core clone, won't be as good as real AC but the thirst might be quenched for a bit

Huh..didn't know there's a Tomino cameo in SRW X..

WHERE'S MY FUCKING NEW GENDUM BROKER ON STEAM BAMCO?!!!!

AAAAAAAAAAA

>>15394096

You think you want that, you don't want that.

>>15394100

>>15394102

I DON'T CARE!!!!

>>15394107

THE EFREET AND 00 DIVER AREN'T WORTH IT.

>>15394147

I just want a gundam game that isn't p2w grind-a-thon or emulated locked down fossil.

>>15394153

I mean, Gundam Versus isn't pay to win, but it's also not fun. Only other options is to import Gundam Breaker 3 Break Edition or GGeneration Genesis.

>>15394164

I assume I should have typed

>emulated/locked down fossil

I'm not buying an outdated locked down PC to play action games at 45 fps.

>>15394166

Well that's a you problem then PCfag. Although I wouldn't mind seeing a Gundam game with the sort of rendering PC car simulation games get.

>>15394166

>I just want a gundam game that isn't p2w grind-a-thon

This is exactly what New Breaker is. Full price upfront doesn't change that.

>refusing to emulate or use real hardware to play a myriad of better games

Kill yourself, redditard.

>>15394176

The simplest idea that I've already emulated everything didn't cross your mind eh?

Also

>downboats

>calls other redditors

Lol.

>>15394164

>GvG

>Not fun

confirmed for being SHIT

>make franchise called Gihren's Greed

>get to play as titular character

>get to win One Year War as the good guys

>there's almost no new Zeon content past the OYW

>no Revel leading the Titans in rebellion

>no Federation gearing for another war

>no Zeon traitors trying to dethrone you

What is the fucking point of making a game built upon the premise of canon divergence if you don't include content for the biggest divergence of them all?

What the fuck were the developers smoking that they made so fucking much pointless content for the Federation? Who the fuck even likes to play as those slimy Jews? Fuck Bamco.

>>15376488

do i lose out on a lot if i just skip the rest of zeta? i stopped watching after Kilimanjaro.

>>15395410

Shin ghiren's greed is strictly OYW or CCA

Menace of Axis V, off the top of my head has the following

>OYW

EFF (revil)

Zeon (Ghiren)

New Life Zeon (What if, lead by Garma)

Neo Zeon of Casaval (Char/Casaval)

Legitimacy Zeon (Kycillia led)

>0083

Zeon Remnants (Delaz)

>Zeta/ZZ

Titans (Jamitov)

AUEG (Blek)

AUEG of Quattro (After Blek's canonical Assassination)

Titans (Scirroco)

Axis (Haman)

Axis of Glemy (Glemy Toto)

>CCA

Neo Zeon of Char

>Other

Tem Ray's army

Technically you can as EFF avert the creation of the AEUG by holding council with blek, however Jamitov goes ballsitic over this and you get the titans as a extremist group (and thus lose access to the pilots that join them and the tech tree associated with the faction)

Supposedly you can avoid Axis' breaking off during a Zeon Campaign if you keep AUEG and Titans alive long enough.

The only thing menace of axis V doesn't have is the animated cutscenes like the older titles had. It's mainly stills.

>>15395422

Watch all of it you faggot

>>15395422

If Zeta isnt really your think gundam might be a miss as a whole for you, Zeta is generally considered one of if not the best entry in the franchise.

>>15395484

Zeta is complete shit, to the point Kamille makes it nearly unwatchable for me.

>>15395484

>Zeta

>Better than the original

>Better than ZZ

>Better than Victory

Hell, the only things I can think of worse than Zeta are the post-Turn A shows.

>>15395504

Zeta isn't that good, but ZZ? Nigger, the series tries to make you sympathetic with a jackass who got people killed, and at no point does it have the self reflection to have characters justifiably mad that he isn't getting thrown in jail or shot instead of being rewarded for his actions.

>>15395484

It ain't exactly the best if it needs a couple of movies retelling Zeta Gundam. I mean, OK..New Translation sorta pulled a Macross where the movie is different than the TV series (no speech in Dakar, the revised ending basically just displaced ZZ and Char's Counterattack which thank god they didn't exactly pull a Macross and made the movie canon, thank you Unicorn)

>>15395519

Are you describing SEED/SEED Destiny, anon?

>>15395519

Admittedly it's been a while since I've actually seen ZZ, and I may be just looking at it with rose-tinted glasses especially now that it's making a comeback in SRW plus I'm more of a Super fan than a Real fan, so the whole having Yao "Fujiwara Shinobu" Kazuki as the main character is a big plus

>>15395532

Except the few times Judau came back in late UC (Crossbone and Victory, though that's manga only) and fought the Ideon with Amuro

>>15395519

The original show was mediocre, but gets extra credit for starting the franchise. Z and ZZ are shit, Victory is edgelord tripe, 0083 is what Gundam would play out if everyone in the cast was a few IQ points short of room temperature. Banana ruins Unicorn with his incessant whining.

The only tolerable shows are 08st MS Team (at least the first half), 0080 (the best thing to ever come out of Gundam), Thunderbolt, Origins and MS IGLOO.

>>15395532

>gets pointed out that Kamille is a girl name

>goes into epic tard rage and forces the soldiers to wrangle him like a roided up nigger

>still keeps acting like a retard

>>15395542

If you think about it, the plot of Zeta Gundam can be completely avoided….if Jerid just kept his mouth shut. And come on, 08th MS Team ain't that bad.

>>15395527

A New Translation is generally considered to be a pile of crap, it didn't need a movie retelling, it got one because money.

>>15395504

Zeta is better than MSG in just about every way, not that the original is bad mind but it certainly has a lot of issues.

Dont even try to say ZZ is better than Zeta, Victory you at least have an argument for but ZZ… need remind you of the Moon Moon arc.

>>15395551

>08th MS Team ain't that bad

It's not bad, I actually love the focus on grunts, but you can tell there was a change in leadership halfway through. Still, at least the protagonist gets his deserved good ending, unlike poor, noble Bernie.

>>15395557

>A teenager acting unreasonable

There's unreasonable, and then there's Kamille who is either high on the autism spectrum or starved of oxygen while in the womb.

>Gives no examples

It's a kid's show, which you can tell with the "Zeon wunderwaffe of the week" scenarios and all the goofy shit going on. Just compare it to Origins and you'll see a stark difference in tone and pacing.

>despite it's thematic change midway

Can you not fucking read you troglodyte? I even said "at least the first half".

>>15395560

Zeta is shit, ZZ is even worse. Tomino and anyone inspired by him should not be allowed to write human interactions.

>>15395557

Not saying Judau returning is a bad thing, I like the guy to be honest. He's sunnier than the other two protags. I mean, Kamille's a typical teenager with rage issues, Amuro's basically proto-Shinji except at least he gets in the mech and fight (after getting berated by almost everyone on White Base…and slapped by Bright)

>>15395573

Judau fucks off from the solar system after all of that. He refits an entire colony and leaves with a bunch of kids.

>>15395542

>The original show was mediocre, but gets extra credit for starting the franchise

Honestly I like the original more than almost any other UC TV show simply because it does the best job of looking at the grunts on the "other side" like the episode with the Zeeks who planted bombs on the Gundam watching Amuro disarm them and being amused and genuinely impressed with him instead of trying to fuck with him or stop him. There was a lot of QUALITY for sure, but damn it just managed to do things the later shows didn't.

>>15395551

>the plot of Zeta Gundam can be completely avoided….if Jerid just kept his mouth shut.

It took him almost exactly 30 years and god knows how many retellings to finally apologize to Kamille for that in SRW V

>>15395560

>Zeta is better than MSG in just about every way, not that the original is bad mind but it certainly has a lot of issues.

Again, I have to disagree - the Titans are pretty much just straight up evil, as opposed to Zeek soldiers who are often portrayed as much more human. But then, I see Gundam more as a human drama than a political one, and I do feel like Zeta tried to push more of the latter angle.

>>15395571

>It's a kid's show, which you can tell with the "Zeon wunderwaffe of the week" scenarios and all the goofy shit going on.

For all that people say that, it does make sense for them to have experimented with so many different suits, especially ones specifically for aquatic combat since they had no real idea about it being in space and all. There's definitely "toy selling" elements in it, but Zeta absolutely had that going too.

>>15395571

Problem is Gundam, the original Gundam, was subject to meddling from their sponsor, clover toys. Hence the loser mecha, G Bull, and whatnot, the compilation movies are a way of "fixing" it. Removing filler and pointless things. Then you have the fact that the ratings for the show on it's first pass were abysmal, it wasn't till fans wrote in letters did they get the show back up and with a new sponsor (Bandai)

>>15395573

Shinji is shit because he never grows, Amuro grows as a character despite things like watching Matilda die, finding out his dad survived the events of Side 7, but suffered brain damage due to oxygen deprivation, his mother trying to keep him as he remembered. Lala was the biggest loss since he connected with her on a whole other level.

And Amruo's reward for ALL of his suffering during the OYW?

House arrest

>>15395585

>the Titans are pretty much just straight up evil

Which, again, undermines the very idea behind Gundam. Why are they such mustache twirling villains anyway? So Tomino can pretend he's giving the audience an unbiased narrative by painting the Feddies as evil guys this time around?

I think Thunderbolt does a far better job of showcasing both the sheer brutality of the war (even going overboard a few times) without degrading itself into shitty melodrama. Neither protagonist in Thunderbolt whines like a bitch, despite living through all manner of traumatic events. They just soldier on. And the same goes for other soldiers on both sides, they're shown to be merely doing their duty.

>There's definitely "toy selling" elements in it, but Zeta absolutely had that going too.

I don't mind Zeon having so many specialized suits, since it's pretty much a direct callback to Germans in WW2 (right down to the logistical issues it eventually created), it's just that the show is structured as your usual super robot show. You have the city (in this case a mobile White Base) that the hero has to defend with his super robot and the evil aliens attack with one scheme or the other each time.

>>15395581

At least he's alive with all his bits intact and he gets to fuck Roux. Can't say the same about Amuro (who I'm pretty sure is fucking dead in Char's Counterattack), Kamille is brain dead…and in the novel, offed himself after Rosamia's death. Then again, novel version of Gundam series is needlessly dark. Amuro fucking died in the novel version of MSG, the 08th MS Team's novel wound up more like Vietnam (hint…remember that girl who's the guerilla fighter? Yeah…let's just say the Feddies are just as bad as the Zekes..)

>>15395601

I should mention, even after coming back from cancellation hell, they still got shafted and had to wrap the show up in less than 52 episodes

>>15395608

Problem is Titans aren't feds. You see this early in the show, Titans are one rank above standard EFF soldiers in terms of command chain due to their specialist nature. It's why it's always "the titans" and not "The Earth Federation" in zeta. It's also why Haman's Zeon ends up with things like the marasai, the EFF, after the events of Zeta want to get rid of anything related to the titans. Even their MS

>>15395612

>novel version of Gundam series is needlessly dark

And by that you mean they're shlock meant to sell on the shock factor.

>Yeah…let's just say the Feddies are just as bad as the Zekes..

Gets raped by Feddie soldiers, has her virginity taken, and bites her tongue out so she can die while thinking about the protagonist. Written by the same dude that made Code Geass IIRC.

>>15395601

>Shinji is shit because he never grows

He does grow, though. Problem is, whenever he tries to do something things have a tendency to go very badly for all involved. The monster he pilots isn't a predictable vehicle, it's a walking genocide engine just waiting to be unleashed. He doesn't have much of a support structure either, unlike Amuro. Misato is no Bright, even though she tries she really is not equipped to help Shinji keep his shit together. And you have to factor that he's surrounded by other crazy people, unlike the "crew" of the White Base. Askua and Rei are both fucked up in their own ways, Ritsuko is batshit insane, Gendo too. Shinji basically has no one around to tell him what is right, or what he's supposed to do.

>>15395618

>Problem is Titans aren't feds

Why would that make them so overtly evil though? I mean, they're not even subtle about it, they're BioWare levels of assholes.

>>15395527

That probably describes them as well, but no. Judau tries to steal the Zeta, fails, and because he was cooperating with a former Titan, several mechanics get killed. This is almost immediately prior to him getting offered a job as a pilot, and getting pissy about it.

I am being unfair, it wasn't greed, he was looking out for his sister. I generally have issues with the younger characters in Gundam anyway, but Judau really pissed me off with him dodging that. Granted, Kamille was way worse about dodging responsibility, I just thought it was pretty clear you weren't supposed to be sympathetic with his bullshit when he said that.

>>15395573

Nigger, him getting slapped by Bright made things worse. That was one of the last things Bright managed to do to lead into Amuro stealing the Gundam. He was also already fighting for quite some time by that point, and their defense plan basically consisted of "Amuro, and the Gundam" because nothing else worked nearly as well. It was Ryu sacrificing himself to save Amuro that made him wake up and realize that he needed to grow up, and even then, his character arc wasn't complete.

>>15395629

Because "absolute power corrupts absolutely", the Titans are a faction with more jurisdiction over the EFF rank and file. It's why so many of them come across as assholes or in Jerid's case just a superiority complex. It also let more ruthless pilots like Yazan get away with the things they did. All in the name of "Stopping the OYW from happening again"

>>15395601

At least the house is a damn mansion. Can never get why they put Amuro under house arrest. I mean, what kind of fucked up government just put a war hero under house arrest?

>>15395629

>written by the same dude that made Code Geass

Well, that explains shit being needlessly dark then.

>>15395612

>Kamille is brain dead

He gets better by the end of ZZ.

>>15395641

Because they're afraid of them

Do you niggers just sit there and watch the moving pictures or do you not pay attention to anything?

>>15395649

Yeah..I did a double check. Apparently he's alive around UC 0099 as a doctor

>>15395654

Afraid of what exactly? Newtypes ain't exactly Babel II level psychic that can make people's heads explode by looking at them funny. If anything, putting Amuro under house arrest just makes shit worse.

>>15395663

Xenophobia, fear of the unknown.

>>15395663

At least it's not like Coordinators where they are basically Super Soldiers made by human engineering or anything or After War Era Newtypes.

>>15395678

Thing is After war is meant to be a "what if" situation of the OYW and their newtypes are more or less no different, the flash system is just a psycommu system with a different name and can only be used BY certain newtypes with "amuro like" abilities more or less. It's why the Frost brothers, despite their telepathy are considered Category F (failures) and why they can't use the flash system

>>15395641

>what kind of fucked up government just put a war hero under house arrest?

Because said war hero can obliterate a fleet all by himself given access to a powerful enough MS.

>>15395645

>who by themselves were corrupt rich fucks

See, that's another thing I don't get about the whole war. People keep saying that the Federation is corrupt and brutally exploits the colonies, but you don't really see much of it. I mean, everyone in the colonies looks well dressed and fed, they have relatively spacious housing, education, access to entertainment etc.

It never really makes the case that the colonies are such a bad place to live, at least not until Unicorn where they show that cramped colony ghetto.

>if the Zekes get gassed

But plenty of colonies were either neutral or against Zeon.

>>15395663

Early UC feddies know virtually fuck all about newtypes.

>>15395608

>Which, again, undermines the very idea behind Gundam.

Exactly. Another reason I like the original more than Zeta.

>You have the city (in this case a mobile White Base) that the hero has to defend with his super robot and the evil aliens attack with one scheme or the other each time.

I never got that feel so much, but then I'm more of a Super fan to begin with. That said, shit like the tense staredown while both sides tried to get the civilians evacuated off the White Base to their village while keeping a razor sharp gaze on the other in case the other side tried any fast moves? You'd never have had that in a Super show, and it's one of Gundam's real strengths

>>15395629

>Shinji basically has no one around to tell him what is right, or what he's supposed to do.

Which is why he tends to shine so much more in SRW.

>>15395484

i really liked 079 and a lot of the non-uc stuff. getting through zeta has been a challenge though. the whole thing went to shit after four died the first time (which was good) and they spent 15+ episodes in space with nothing of consequence happening outside of everyone making the worst possible decisions for no reason whatsoever

it's hard to stay invested when every character keeps making terrible decisions over and over again and bright doesn't even slap the shit out of them like he would've in 079. most of the fights aren't even good or feel completely contrived when everyone just keeps disobeying orders and ending in the same stalemate over and over.

>>15396517

Fucking saved.

>>15396385

What I find really irritating is that I like OYW the most in terms of vehicle development and technologies used, but it's ruined by absolutely shit characters, and the further you go into UC the less combined arms there is, vehicles getting reduced to MS, Mobile Armor and ships that are only there to be canon fodder.

As gimped as it is, Shin Ghiren's greed has some nice new mechanics to it

>Don't have to waste money on "upgrading" a zaku squad to use a dodai, can just place a dodai and Zaku on the same tile and "merge them to give the zaku "flight", This allows you to do shit like zaku cannon on a dodai or things not doable in the earlier games

>Bases will continue to churn out units if they're queued up, can't attrition enemy strongholds now, have to make active pushes. Aggressive attackers rewarded for capturing the center "base" tile with whatever enemy units were primed to roll out on turn 5, now under the player's control

>>15399933 (What do you call a full house of trips and dubs)

Still…wonder why Gihren's Greed ain't imported to the West. I mean, fuck sakes, Nobunaga's Ambition and Romance of the Three Kingdoms has been imported to the west (and on consoles, for some reason) why not Gihren's Greed. Also, wasn't there a custom faction in one of the Gihren Greed games?

>>15399968

Because Bandai Namco are dicks and Koei Tecmo are less so, but sometimes dicks (see Samurai Warriors 3 being localized for nothing except the Wii).

>>15399968

Because the average westener is retarded and can't handle anything with a modicum of strategy. Not to mention how fucky licensing laws are over here.

Romance of the three kingdoms is a book, that was eventually translated. That's why Musou is allowed over here.

>Custom faction

Nope, Tem Ray's army is the closest I can think of though because technically you have access to most if not all tech trees sans CCA

>>15399993

OK, I did some checking and the PS2's War for Zeon Independence does have custom factions but only in IF Mode with the major downside that it's based on the One Year War and you only get the Federation and Zeon…and nothing else.

Zone of the Enders 2 Remaster just came out.

I still wonder why they didn't bundle the two games.

>>15399993

>Because the average westener is retarded and

Average westerner likes turn based strategy over real time strategy.

>>15406930

>Average westerner likes turn based strategy over real time strategy.

Wat?

>>15406809

>denuvo

Time to wait for a crack.

>>15407039

>Using Denuvo on a remaster

Not even Sega was that retarded

>>15407024

I have to agree

Also Ghiren's greed has systems that most westeners might be confused by or think "bad"

In menace of axis 5 for example, the maps are split into sectors. Now the idea when you're defending is to leave only ONE unit on a tile at the edge of your controlled territory. The reason is because the AI invades with always MORE units than the invaded tile has. Meaning if you have 3 units they come at you with 9, to overwhelm. with one unit they bring 3. So for one whole phase you spend retreating, preferably towards the part of the map that connects to a tile with reinforcements.

Then on the strategy phase you send in either more reinforcements than needed (to scare the AI) or enough to deal with the problem.

Of course you can use this when attacking as well as the AI will bolster the tile you're about to invade with more units than you have as it's preparing to invade, this means you either make sure your invasion force is ready to go in 2 strategy phases (1 to move onto the tile and the other to push into the enemy territory). This usually works well as if the tile you're going to stack units on gets invaded, you can reinforce and during the strategy turn in which you've pushed back or crushed the invading forces you're left with little resistance in the direction you want to go.

Shin Ghiren turns it into a different beast.

>>15407108

The way the AI sounds does sound a little bad, but it does in general sound similar to Risk, which most Western fans should at least be aware of.

>>15407142

Ghiren's Greed is essentialy Risk with a MSG skin

>>15407158

I'd love such a skin over say Lux Delux, or Crusader Kings 2, but it wouldn't be same.

>>15407166

First like few things of Zeon's campaign from Menace of Axis, just the game audio, no shitty voice overs

>>15407177

Hope that gave people an idea of what the game is like

>>15409804

It's handy for sure.

bump

What the best SRW game to start off on that's translated to English? I'm think of starting on SRW A Portable, one of the GBA games, or V.

>>15420069

V and X, the difficulty of the games only scales upward from there.

>>15376687

People should play breaker 3 on ps4. I remember the vita version has some interface difference in the vita version that hides some parts effects or something.

>>15422238

If it's anything like the Arcade Version, you can cancel a jump into a boost. If you repeat that, it's faster than just using the boost regularly.

>>15420069

Alpha Gaiden

>>15422232

It doesn't. The only difference is the resolution of the textures

>>15420069

Try J…but a word of warning, if you're not a fan of SEED, the game sorta put SEED in the spotlight and hijacked the plot to G Gundam (G only gets to Grand Master Gundam…no Devil Colony) and don't try for Great Zeorymer the first way through…not unless you're willing to forgo a lot of other secrets.

>>15422665

J is boring it's "reinforcements" the game

>>15422681

Well, it's " endless ZAFT/Earth Alliance reinforcements, Jovian reinforcements and Grados reinforcements" the game but it's also translated, so there you go. Rather have R or W be translated but hey, it got some good moments, like Hell's Island and the image of Master Asia taking out the Archangel's AA gun on foot…and then jumps on to the Nadesico and take out their AA guns too.

>>15422699

Alpha Gaiden is translated and better

>>15422709

Yeah but J's a good start. It ain't ball busting difficult by word go..and it ain't too damn easy like X and V.

Anyone here Gundam Battle Operation 2? I'm thinking of trying it out today.

Why is gundam seed battle destiny so mindnumingly boring? I had much more fun playing gundam seed rangou vs zaft portable.

>>15422716

Cut your teeth on alpha gaiden, then feel disappointment when the other games are a fucking cakewalk

>>15423939

>Why is Gundam SEED so boring

FTFY

>>15425107

Nah, the Alpha series is the succulent main course after a disappointing opening meal.

And yeah, except for Astray ,a series that includes a fucking 50 foot long Katana and unabashedly Newtpes (Prayer is a Newtype, prove me wrong) SEED is at best meh, at worst? Shit on a turd sandwich.

>pc mecha when

DO YA LIKE DA GUNDAM GAME?

>>15428230

Never, can't cut into those arcade profits with a home version. Here's Gundam Versus, asshole. Speaking of, haven't heard shit about Maxi Boost 2 since the location test.

Occasionally a mech gets called something besides a simple mech. I'd be interested to hear people's favorite esoteric name for mecha, whether they're from an existing work of fiction or something you made up yourself. In Gundam they're called Gundams, in Xenogears they're called Gears, in Power Rangers they're called Zords, etc.

>>15431368

>reTORd

>>15431368

I'm pretty sure they're called mobile suits in Gundam and Gundam is a sub-type like AFV to MBT irl.

I quite like Gundamu as a name tbh, you might be able to get around copyright by saying its parody.

>>15431368

Well, there's Arm Slaves from Full Metal Panic, Personal Troopers from Original Generations, Metal Armors from Dragonar, Armored Troopers from VOTOMs….anything else I'm missing?

>>15431922

They are, a mobile suit is the general name of them. "Gundam" was the name of the RX-78, and later "Gundam types" would become a thing, usually Gundam types resembled a gundam or where high performance prototype suits with cutting edge technology. It gets really fucky in UC because you have things like the Zeta Project which spawned several "Gundams" including the Delta Gundam, which would be stripped down to become the Hyaku Shiki due to issues in the moveable frame system that made it infeasible to keep it's waverider form (though later this issue would be overcome and the Zeta would receive this feature)

Then you have things like Mobile Armors which are large, but not battleship large, machines with a focus on firepower. Things like the Big Zym, Bigro and it's aquatic version the Grublo.

What mecha games should I play first when I get around to hacking my ps4?

Last ones I enjoyed were macross 30 on ps4 and find breaker 3 on vita.

>>15443311

Macross 30 on ps3*

>>15435457

Walker Machines in Xabungle

Overman in King Gainer

Armor in Gun x Sword

fucking Megadeus in Big O

Really, I have more trouble thinking of series where they are just called mechs and not some other weird bullshit instead

>>15443445

I don't mind mechs with boxy and bulky design. Never did like the modern day angular design with spindly limbs that modern mecha design has…is it OK if I call these new designs with jagged pointy bits The Code Geass syndrome? Or is it safe to call it 00 Syndrome? Already have a name for Super Robot design where it's samey looking top heavy with giant shoulders but small as fuck waist (Gravion/Obari Syndrome)

>>15431368

Variable Fighters and Destroids from Macross

Aestivalises and Gekigan-types from Martian Successor Nadesico (Gekigan-types are an attempt to make supers in a real robot setting)

Mortarheadds (two Ds) from Five Star Stories

Elementals and Elemental Lords from Masoukishin

LEVs and Orbital Frames from Zone of the Enders

Muscle Tracers, Armored Cores, and NEXTs from Armored Core

Hi-MACS from GunGriffon

>>15448974

Gekigans ain't the first time though…remember the Gilgazamune from Dragonar?

>>15448974

addendum:

the RX line, the Sizzlers, and the Buster Machines in Gunbuster, which is an absolute must-see for anyone who hasn't

>>15448977

The Gilgamazune is a limited production super robot. Gekigan-types, however, are the mass production manned units for the Jovians once they ramp up the invasion plan

>>15423305

I heard it's less p2w and grind2win than the original from a friend that plays it. Says it's a lot less shit than the first was, lotta issues fixed.

>>15449005

I was going to say the Zeong being the first Super in a Real Robot setting…and then I realized, it's just a mobile armor, it's not even a Super.

>>15449018

It's not even a mobile armor, its just an MS that never got it's legs built.

i wanna marry a mech

>>15449037

I'd marry a Zaku II, but not sure if I could meet the fervent Zeon nationalism with the same enthusiasm he'd have.

>>15449150

I like it better without the legs, honestly.

>>15449659

>snout

It's more of a gas mask. Do you think ladies in gas masks are banned from /monster/?

>>15449659

The snout is very cute, not that the Zudah isn't handsome in his own ways.

>>15449659

While the Zaku II is wonderful and I don't see where you're coming from, the Zudah deserved better. All Zimmad had to do was fix the engine/reactor arrangement, which as I recall they canonically did to get the Rick Dom; the Gundam wiki says as much in passing. A strengthened engine limiter band-aid solution with the EMS-10F also works out fine. It's a ridiculous super hi-mo Zaku II with a leaner build and some extra bells & whistles, except available as a development line from before the OYW; it's such a dumb problem not to try and fix in light of this, even knowing the plot demands it.

>>15449659

Well, the Zaku's a stable machine and performance wise, it's pretty good compared to its other derivatives. The Zudah? A screaming metal death trap. The Leo? Too fucking shit that even when the Gundam pilots missed a shot on a Leo…the Leo blows up. Hell, the Zaku's so damn good that ZAFT decided to use it rather than stick with their original GINN's. Also, fuck the Tieren, that Lego Zaku looking motherfucker.

>>15449894

>Leo is bad meme

Anon, for 20 fucking years in the AC timeline the leo was used without issue or without the need for a new MS. It's design puts it's thrusters under the skirt and with the back freed up optional equipment has a direct connection to the MS's onboard powerplant so there's no lose of power or need for external power piping. outside plot armor, in wwing the 5 gundams are going up against 20+ year old MS and the gundams themselves are top of the line.

>The Zudah is a screaming metal death trap

Only if an idiot pushes it too hard. the saturn engine ended up being reused for Zimmad's MS-09B Dom. In terms of specs the Zudah is superior to the Zaku in every regard. It's only the lack of a limiter on the Zudah coupled with the brasses fear of idiots that it lost the bid for mass production against the MS-04

>The Zaku is a stable machine

Not really, the Zaku II relies on external power piping to bring it's combat effectiveness above it's predecessor. If those tubes are torn it suffers huge performance drops.

>Mentioning SEED

shit show

>Tieren is bad

Except not really, it's like the zaku II in that it's a natural evolution over it's previous incarnation. In this case what looks like dock working equipment with a 50 cal stuck under the main camera compartment. Remember the Bear himself almost took down the Exia in S1 using pretty much just a faster Tieren.

>>15449659

that cool factor of a mono-eye MS with what looks like a gasmask.

>Snout

More like a respirator, you ant a snout look at the gelgoog.

>>15449150

not really rocket punches as so much wire guided cannons controlled by psycommu

>>15448942

Except they throw that out in S2 and the KMF is just a oversized scopedog.

Go watch Votoms or it's predecessor Dougram instead

Any good Virtual-On clones out there available for PC? I've been itching for one since Ultimate Knight Windom XP, but that game might as well be dead.

>>15451789

I like Texas, Texas Colony isn't a substitute for it.

>>15449659

I think they're sexy.

They're simple, slick and very well defined. Not to mention to that sick mono-eye

>>15450137

Yeah, the closest thing Gundams had to a Rocket Punch was that non-canon crossover with Ideon…and it's a machine that requires two pilots to made it work.

>>15452533

>Zee Zulu

>Good

it's an edgy version of the geara doga we're supposed to believe was able to hit mass production despite zeon remnants having no real fucking way of producing those so soon after the events of CCA

>>15452542

>Geara Zulu

mixed it up with the shitty variant

>>15452542

>>15452545

Also AE handles construction of both sides mobile suits since first Neo Zeon uprising.

>>15452552

I thought the Ultimate Zaku is the Scopedog? The Gunbuster is just a Getter Robo, son.

>>15452556

Except that's not true and most Neo Zeon suits from Axis were built on Axis, the Gaza-C is literally a suit made from spare parts and mass produced, it was so poorly designed it's transformation mechanism could only be used a few times before it fell apart

>>15452460

That's a little creepy but also a little romantic, Mr. Zaku II. Sieg Zeon.

>>15449049

As long as you aren't feddie trash I'm sure he'd have no problem with it.

>>15450137

Too old. Any video media before 1994 or so isn't worth watching as the quality is too outdated to be contemporarily relevant.

>>15453541

>I'm too cool for the majority of U.C. Gundam

>I'm too cool for Patlabor

>I'm too cool for Macross

>I'm too cool for Legend of the Galactic Heroes

>I'm too cool for any '80s action movies

>I'm too cool for Akira

>I'm too cool for anything good

Why even live, hipster?

>>15453643

I'd say it's bait but there are faggots out there that are legitimately like this but have no idea that shit like Dragonball and Dragonball Z are late 80s

>>15453613

I'd never date a captain, the red Zaku II is intimidating and alluring in his dangerous vibe.

>>15451824

>sexy

Zaku porn where?

>>15453541

uhh no, sowwie sweetie but anything before 2010 is ancient, time waits for no one grandpa!

>>15453786

Male or female?

>>15453804

>sweetieposting

Please do not do that.

>>15453827

Both if possible.

>>15448974

Almost forgot that mechs in Layzner are called SPT, short for Super Powered Tracer, Round Vernians in Vifam, Heavy Metals from L-Gaim and Armored Soldiers from Galient.

>>15453881

Ha ha, I actually commissioned that second one.

>>15450137

Which makes the Leos even worse…when a Zaku I can still take on the Moon Race mechs or when Mars Zeon still giving Federation trouble with One Year War era MS….in UC120.

>>15453913

I could tell, you have the same posting style at the guy who first posted it.

Hyper is trash and you should feel bad for making me have to edit your commissions.

>>15453922

I'm glad you were able to cater it to your tastes.

>>15453922

This one is already pretty big, I can only imagine how the original was.

Why the fuck are there so many literal faggots in these threads?

>OwO I want a Gundam as a husband

You can try to tell yourselves otherwise, but you're furries with a different coat of paint.

Guys

What the fuck are you doing

This is embarrassing

>>15454011

>not a robotic dick

>not even some kind of heat sword

What a shame. Anyway, females are better.

>>15454011

I've said it before and I'll say it again: these look awful.

>>15454011

>he actually paid for these

What happened in your life to take you to this point?

>>15454049

Autism.

>>15454038

At least they're still cute, since they're zakus.

>>15454061

Now these have interesting dicks.

>open thread to talk about Gundam Breaker

>some guy is sharing gay robot porn that he commissioned

Why do I even bother

>>15454099

Degenerates, man…I thought mecha are clean from these…filth.

>>15454099

You seem upset that people on /v/ are autistic. You should leave

>>15454125

Have you ever browsed >>>/m/ ?

You know..whoever it is that made MS Saga really needs to reconsider why in the fuck he put the DEVIL GUNDAM as a mid-game boss and not the end game boss. But no…let's put Wing Zero as the final boss, that piece of shit MS..

>>15454489

Neo Zeong makes a decent final boss in GB3

Even if the cunt fucking steals your gunpla design

>>15454507

At least the Neo Zeong looks like a final boss. Wing Zero Custom looks like the boss you fight at the start of the final dungeon. Especially weird when the main baddie starts out in the MASTER GUNDAM. Talk about a downgrade.

>>15454281

I like the steady fade out of the colors as the unit evolves.

>>15453918

The thing is the Borjanon isn't the MMS-06 from the OYW, it's hinted it's a recreation of one. Also it doesn't really do much and you already see leaning towards lighter armored suits with beam coating in mid UC. Ballistic rifles would be an optimal choice, granted the borjanon don't ever really score kills in head on fights

>>15455066

Don't be upset I'm stating truth.

Fun fact the Mahiroo, the domed MS used by Ghingham's men contain the mobile trace system from G Gundam

I'll just leave it here

https://store.steampowered.com/app/682450/Garrison_Archangel/

>>15467974

>X1 Destroy

Yeah, the Destroy arms works more like the Zeong's arms. It can detach but it's for more beam spam.

>>15467943

Looks good. Although I kinda wish the hover ability was indefinite.

>>15468386

Well, if the hover was indefinite, I guess the game would be too easy?

>>15468397

I was thinking more Zone of the Enders styled where you have 3D movement. I guess it'd work if there were more air enemies.

What makes Zone of the Enders more of a mecha game than say Devil May Cry? Looks like a standard action game with a mech in place of a person.

Playing SD Gundam Overworld. Compared to SRW, the crossover thing seems slapdash. Like there's no interplay thing like SRW would do with Gundam series, you know?

>>15468590

Yeah, outside of the final stages in each core, plus the last set. It's very light on plot.

>>15469083

>They are obviously aping GvG so limited boost is kinda a staple.

I wish more Mecha games would get a bit more creative with mobility options.

One of the few things ACV did right was the wall jumping to supplement it's greatly gimped boost system.

While that itself was great, I'd love other options, like

>Code Geass style anchors/grappling hooks

>Auxhilary boosters that have a limited amount of fuel but allow sustained flight or directional boosts (i.e. rocket booster that launches you high into the air)

It'd be rad

>>15468590

Because the SD gundam games are focused on missions that are like in the main line shows. and less cross overs. Also for overworld make sure you get the awakened Turn A or else Hell mode will be pain

>>15469083

>People caring about shit breaker

play GB3 or Pirate NGB

>>15470010

Awakened Turn A? Is it the Turn A with the Butterfly and Nukes?

>>15470974

Yeah it's the evil looking one.

>>15471200

That's Dark history Turn A. >>15470974 Is talking about full power Turn A. Two different units.

>>15468643

I think managing to create the illusion of "weight" to the movement is key. The PS2 Armored Core games did that fairly well. On the other hand, Project Nimbus has no weight to its movement. Zone of the Enders, while very stylish, was one that you could very easily make the game into a DBZ knock off and the gameplay would not suffer at all.

>>15469083

Several sources pointed it too. Except it's on Sept 24th. With patches up to 1.04 and free DLC, so nothing really corrected.

Pirate and wait for fanmade patches turning it into GB3+.

Hey, remember that one Zone of the Enders game that played like SRW but instead of hoping for RNG to favor you, you can actively lock on and dodge your enemy's attacks?

>>15472721

I doubt fan patches could fix a game already ruined by the usage of Unreal Engine.

>>15472721

If it's 24th in japan, it's 25th in burgerstan.

>>15472742

Nothing wrong with UE.

>>15472779

Do tell.

>>15472739

You mean the GBA game where you have near 100% dodge and hit rate if you use that option?

>>15472796

Yes.

>>15472790

Various downgrades in New are due to the switch to Unreal Engine for some ungodly reason, the engine cannot handle large amounts of enemies which is why shit like DmC happened, pretty much every shitty change they made for New was due to the new engine specifically chosen for the PC release. Basically UE was picked so they wouldn't have to work on making sure the engine from 3 worked on PC.

>>15472805

Because, let's be frank, chances are high GB3's custom made console engine would probably end up like vanilla Dark Souls port if not worse.

That being said Gear of War was absolutely beautiful, perfectly optimized and had shitton of enemies at all times on screen.

It was shit game, but not because of engine, but because all GoWs are.

I just want Bandai Namco to give Tecmo Koei the assets to Gundam Versus and New Gundam Breaker and make a 5th Dynasty Warrior Gundam. At least I can be sure the gameplay will be exciting and lengthy alongside getting slightly reamed by DLC.

>>15472811

Did you miss Dynasty Warriors 9 my dude?

>>15472815

I know, shut up. They can't make an open world Gundam game, probably.

>>15472821

Problem with DW9 was not open world, and not even the optimisation, it was combat system.

I don't want DW5 with this combat system.

>>15472823

Oh yeah yeah, that too. Yeah, it'd be a bit of a toss up if they go with a Warriors Orochi 4 combat system, with something neat like pilot determining your R1 attacks on top of the standard attack strings, or DW9 combat.

>>15472811

>Gundam Musou

>Good

you play one, you play em all.

>>15472742

The game would need to be reworked

>New "damage" system is shit, ensures you'll never play as your gunpla for too long

>Shoehorned dating mini game in it

>builder parts are now cosmetic instead of functioning or stat boosting parts

>mechanics are watered down

>>15472821

>Open world x game

fuck no. You can't DO open world in gundam. UC is OYW and would make no sense, you'd have to play a linear campaign.

Not every game needs to be open world

>>15453918

>>15453918

Mars zeon's mobile suits are actually much more improved than the OYW counterparts. They are described as retaining the same size and not drinking, but they have much more advanced alloys, power generators, shields, etc.

>>15472805

>large amounts of enemies which is why shit like DmC happened

DMC1 couldn't handle a large amount of enemies either because of memory limitations it appears there are more then 6-8 at a time but that's camera tricks and rapid spawning of enemies, if enemy limitations was the true culprit then they would've worked around it.

>>15473152

>Not every game needs to be open world

I wouldn't want it to be open world, but I'd believe Koei would attempt to make it open world.

>>15475212

Mars Zeon is basically OYW Zeon with late UC tech under the hood, however because by this time most MS were much smaller the smaller suits were more of a match. Dunno why they didn't "microize" the zeon MS while they were fitting them with stronger gear

Actually a good read is MSV-R The return of Johnny Ridden because you get to see some good suit variants

I just picked up Gundam Breaker 3 on PS4.

Jesus fucking Christ, this shit is goddamn crazy fun!!

>>15476317

>crazy fun 28 fps at 720p

Thanks but no thanks.

>>15476550

>He thinks NGB will be good because muh 60fps on PEECEE

Fun fact NGB is shit, so much so it was almost 80% off it's retail price week 1

>>15395692

Literally the whole later half of 0079 is the White Base crew not knowing fuck-all about Amuro being a newtype.

>>15477845

And the whole first half is their quest for salt

>>15477811

No, haters bombed it because they know it's not gonna be an exclusive so they launched this campaign to convince bamco not port future gendum games to PC.

>>15480260

>gameplay vids look fun

>game's mechanics on paper look fun

>no, anon, you have to believe what people with agenda say and not your own experience

We shall see if it's actually bad game soon enough.

>>15481340

I've played it on PS4. It's very bad. In addition to slow down when there are about 5 units on screen at once, which is often. The targeting system for ranged weapons is very unwieldy and inaccurate as a result. It is a downgrade from the previous game, which provided a simple lock on system, as well as the option to manually aim.

The parts system has been gimped compared to the previous game. While the previous game did allow you to become so powerful you were nigh impossible to defeat, New has the opposite problem. In New, you are so weak you feel like the outcome of battle is out of your control. In addition to the changes to ranged combat, melee combat has been slowed down and made extremely stiff, with no cancelable moves or actions to be found in my time with the game. How parts effect this is extremely minimal, with each part only providing a negligible state boost that seldomly varies between parts, and can not be changed since duplicate parts (that could be altered to have different skills/boosts in the previous game) have been eliminated.

It is a bad game on PS4, and it will be bad on PC. The new developers of the game did and will do a bad job.

>>15481362

>I wanted a musou and got kingodm hearts

>therefore it's bad

Whatever you say sonygger.

>>15481340

>>15480234

>>15481665

>Retards

>People tell you exactly whats wrong with it

>Hurr you're just upset it's not exclusive anymore.

Oldtypes everyone.

What is everyone's favorite mech design in a game? I will judge you for your shit taste if I disagree.

We all know the best mech designs are 9-ball, the gouf, and the dom.

>>15481968

I love the Gouf and its variants, like the Ignited, Flight Type, and side story big brother of sorts in the Efreet.

>>15482127

>Liking the seed version of the gouf.

It looks ok but I still can't get over my hatred for anything seed related.

I honestly wish more games had the zaku I in it. I love the look of it even more than the zaku II.

I really wish we got more gundam games that emphasized the strategy of using mildly slow and lumbering mobile suits that were very quick to gain a target or switch targets on something compared to tanks. Combined warfare would also be a good idea. Everything put out seems to be more of an arcade experience rather than a strategic or mech sim.

>>15482359

I wish I had better people to put into it actually. Just have Athrun and Yazak.

>>15483372

That means you have excellent taste. It is always funny to me how popular the Kampfer is everywhere for a mobile suit that is seen for like five seconds. Who actually designed it anyway?

>>15481579

This happens all the time with Japanese companies.

>Oh, konichiwa America-desu!

>We heer u rike da [Japanese game/series] on SOOOPA PRAYSTATION anda deicide to bring to PEE SEE so to expand most honorabre audience!

>They pick the shittiest game, use the shittiest marketing tactics, select the shittiest porting house

>HAOW DARE YOU AMERICAN! DISA SHAMEFUR DISPRAY OF DISHONOR! YOU HAVE COMMITTED A TRILLION NAGASAKI AND FUKUSHIMA UPON OUR HONORABRE HOUSE! WE WIR NEVER REREASE ANOTHER GAME AGAIN!, EXPECT ANUDDA PEARR HABURO WIDDIN DE WEEK, GUWAILO!

>>15483736

Wasn't everything in 0080 designed by the Macross guy?

>>15483341

Wish SEED was about the Hawk of Endymion rather than the whiny genetically engineered Marty Stu. Hell, wish there was a Gundam series where the Sleggar Law/ Roy Fokker expy is the main character.

>>15482359

Yutaka Izubuchi did the mechanical design for the Kampfer, I don't think kamawori was ever involved in any MS designs.

>>15483951

It's more like they water down shit for western audiences. look at Monhun world, while the only entry I ever played was 3rd on PSP, even I can see how they streamlined the one MH game that is made for the international audience.

>>15484446

Kawamori designed the GP01 and GP02A.

>>15484468

That's 0083 then

>>15484088

Zeon did everything wrong.

>>15486052

Couldn't even maintain the momentum they had during the OYW.

>>15489096

back stabbing and faggots ruin everything

>Ghiren's Greed lets you tell M'Quve to stop being a bitch and give Ramba Ral the Doms he's requesting

>If you do this the events of white base end and Ral is successful in capturing all but the gundam. You get the WB, Guntank and Guncannon

>>15489377

>being shit at casting personell

>excecting anything but trainwreck

>>15449659

I like the zudah but he's a skinny boi and men are meant to be THICC.

>>15449659

Personally, I prefer the Gelgoog. Because the damn thing, to me, could take on a Gundam one on one. It's so good, even the Feddies uses it. That, and I really do love the Jager.