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Shit game, people only like it because their dicks uncontrollably drift towards anime girls no matter what garbage they're attached to.

>>15338843

Wrong.

People like it because of the gravity gameplay. I bet you're one of those retards who played it and thought "HURRR SHIT COMBAT BAD GAME" when the appeal of the game is the gravity powers. It's like playing an FPS and calling it shit because the story's bad.

>>15338843

>muh dick

>>15338850

>muh gameplay

It's both and more.

>"yeah! verticality!"

dismissing the vertical structure of JPL is a cheap way to ignore the core of what makes it good, resorting to weak platitudes like "it's not memorable and there's no central structure!" failing to explain why these do not work. Dismissing verticality in a game literally about falling already places your entire post in a bad light. Off to a bad start.

> and this ties into my first point because collecting gems in GR2 is a pain in the arse.

It was sorted the exact same way as GR1. Crystals layered in the top, middle (typically on ceilings) and bottom, all organized to be collected in a single sweep. It being more vertically oriented did no damage to how you collect them because you still unlock city area after area. Upgrades were shifted to give focus on the talisman system which greatly enhanced the shifting styles with more options.

>muh presentation is better

prove it. You're just listing a series of things and saying they're more memorable, but I have no problem recalling elements from both games with little effort and only a single jingle to go on before an entire song kicks off in my head or a single story moment begins to unravel once again. I actually recall fewer story elements from the first than the second despite playing them one after the other.

>FUCK MINING

then don't do this extra side activity intended to give you more areas to gravity shift in to get talismans to improve your shifting.

>>15338944

I missed the online play, was it good?

>>15338944

I haven't played it and have no compliments, criticisms or inclinations to ever play it (or indeed even a concept of what the game is or is like) to offer you. In their place, take this (You) that you might be made aware of my total indifference.

>>15338947

It was nice but just a few bonus features. Sucks it's gone but it's not really ruining anything.

Ok

But both were good games, this thread is fucking stupid

>>15338972

>*meh it could have been better

>*anyone else feel the same?

Sorry for the typos

>>15338843

Naw. Kat is best waifu but that's not what the draw of the game is. The draw is that it's one of the only games in modern years that actually remembers to have fun movement. Games should be fun just to run around in, as a baseline. If your character isn't fun simply to control, you might as well start over from scratch. Gravity Rush would be fun somewhat fun even without missions and challenges. Which means all those missions and challenges are actually fun, and not just something you're playing for the story or whatever other dumb reasons people play the boring ass unfun games that have been pumped out and promoted so much for the last 15 years.

>>15338947

I enjoyed the treasure hunts. You get a photo someone took of a hidden item and have to go and find that item based on the photo. Then you take a new photo of it and pass it on, and if someone actually finds it based on your photo, you get points. Also you get points for finding it yourself. It was okay and I wish they just had a set of premade photos since the online component of it isn't that important. Taking the photos wasn't the interesting part. Knowing the city so well that you could identify areas based on pictures was. Note that this is still the tiniest part of the game though. It's completely non-essential except for some unlockable items which are pointless except for costumes. It's bullshit but not enough to say the game isn't worth playing anymore. There was also leaderboards for challenges and you could send your times to other people and whoever won got points. Really pointless and I don't care since there are default times to beat anyway. There should have just been one more level of times to beat for the points you get online instead.

>>15338972

But there is a lot to do after you finish the game. Lots of extra challenges. You can do them before you beat the game too but then that's the case in a lot of games.

>>15338820

>better world

the entire world of the 1st game is included in the 2nd.

>better leveling system

how is being able to hold more projectiles, dealing more damage, longer combos, faster travel, more efficient gravity gauge, as well as 3 different modes each with their own perks, plus equippable items? kats absolutely not fully upgraded from the start.

>better visuals

not even close

>better music

the music of the 1st is included in the 2nd, plus more

>better story

its the same story, just continued.

how did you manage to have objectively wrong opinions on every single point you tried to make?

>>15339863

>its the same story, just continued.

I agree with the rest of your points but this is dumb. Otherwise every sequel is "the same story but continued," so you can never say the first entry in a series has a better story than sequels. Really you can never say sequels have better stories either. They're always the same since they're "the same story, just continued."

>15338955

>Claims to be indifferent

>Posts anyway.

No (You) 4u.

I am close to the end of the first game, I love the movement but the combat is utter fucking tripe. I loathe those flying harpoon Nevi, and the flying shell monsters that shoot the homing projectiles. They are infuriating, especially during the side mission where you join the military and help rescue civilians. Kat is very cute and gives the game a lot of charm and atmosphere with her niavte. I can't wait to start playing the sequel which I heard was better in just about every way.

I don't get the complaints about combat. But then again I also didn't bother trying to focus on things like combos or whatever. The trick is just to always try to get a really good run at the enemy so when you hit them, you hit them hard. The combat is all about maneuvering into the right position and getting good timing.

>>15338820

>Nothing sticks in your mind, either visually or worldbuilding wise.

This is really subjective. Without looking at any of the GR2 screenshots I've taken, I can easily recall the giant deer-headed statue, the temple with the pink roof, the circular rainbow in the sky, the industrial corner with the big airships & cranes, the buildings built on top of the giant purple crystals and the shopping market with the TV ads placed over the doorways. Then in the rich district there's the mansion with the swimming pool in front of it, the mansion with the long pathway of gardens and sprinklers leading up to it, the mansion with the small cave underneath it, the circular fountain area and the area with the lake. Even in the slums, which are supposed to be visually dour, you have the square full of destructible shacks and the narrow tunnel that leads to the resistance hideout. And that's all without getting into the mining areas or Eto, which all (in my opinion) had some of the most interesting visual design in either game.

I love Hekseville as a setting and was glad to see it reappear, but 2's new areas are bursting with memorable landmarks too.

>they just give you a fully upgraded Kat

This isn't true. Comparing when you first start off in GR2 to when you've beaten it, there's a big difference between how long you can stay in the air, how fast you move in the air, the efficacy of your combat abilities, etc. Plus, even aside from abilities than can be levelled up, you're objectively not fully kitted out at the start of the game considering you don't have the Lunar or Jupiter styles.

>because collecting gems in GR2 is a pain in the arse.

How do you mean? The biggest difference I can recall between the two is that GR1's gems tend to be arranged more horizontally and GR2's more vertically, but I don't remember there being much of a difference in how you go about collecting.

>There's so much stop start involved

I find this complaint weird because I'd fully agree with it if you were talking about the first game, but 2 completely remedied this issue. The amount of time you spend stopping and starting to use stasis field in the first game is far more than anything in 2, in which you can take advantage of your whole moveset far more easily and smoothly than in the first game.

I still think that GR1 is a decent game and would recommend it to people, but I don't have much desire to play it again after playing GR2, which has pretty much everything I wanted out of a sequel. Much better combat, better enemy variety, gravity powers are less cumbersome to use, characters' personalities are expanded upon, there's more content, a more vertical world and a satisfying end to the story.

>>15340109

I find the combat really fun, it's more enemy design that doesn't work well with the mechanics or feels more frustrating to fight because of underwhelming mechanics. I only played GR:R so far but I can say I really hate how lackluster the dodge feels. Dodging shots should feel great, especially while in the air, but it feels sluggish and unsatisfying to hit the dodge button over and over again. Putting the dodge button on a trigger was also a horrible mistake. I also hate how grabbing objects stops you in your tracks. You should be able to run and grab stuff and keep going but you stop and go and you're often hit because of it. It's maddening, especially on that mission I talked about where you need to rescue the civilians.

>>15340597

Honestly I completely forgot there even was a dodge. I was just constantly flying around and never needed it. If I'm gonna complain about the combat, it's that there are a lot of moves you don't really need, except for the challenge mines in Gravity Rush 2.

>>15340634

That's kind of my point. The workaround I use is to simply fall in another direction which feels really shitty. You stop and start which applies to most of the combat.

>>15340684

I don't mind combat like that. You quickly sneak in a hit and then run back to distance and look for another opportunity. Most enemies die in one hit anyway, if you hit them well, and then it's about flowing from one enemy to the next.

I'm also probably not very good, because the times I actually bothered to use things like thrown objects or the different styles in 2, they did work well. But I didn't care enough to work well. There are multiple ways you can fight effectively.

>>15340703

Throwing objects in gr2 is a massive improvement, and wormhole kicks as well as jupiter bombs make the combat feel much more lively and enjoyable. I find the combat in the first to be a bit of a drag but thr game is short enough that it never really becomes a problem.

>>15340703

Did you even play the submission with the military? That shit was unfiltered AIDS. You need to wrestle with that stop and start combat wipe putting out fires on the ship and in the city while dealing with infinitely respawning Nevi. I never get mad at video games but that shit almost broke me. It wasn't hard. Just frustrating. Everytime you get hit you drop the object you're holding. I wanted to beat the shit out of whoever designed that mission.

>>15341630

I got mad too, since tossing the water seemed to have a high chance to not put out the fires even if lobbed directly at it. Until I found out that just falling close to the burning area whilst stasising a water container would put out the fire on its own without dealing with faulty hit detection throwing them had, doing so rendering the mission FAR less stressful. Much quicker too.

>>15341685

How about that mission where you fight raven inside the tree? I eventually decided to gravity surf on the side. Made is a billion times easier. Also looked radical. Missed out on a bunch of gems though.

>>15338843

You struck a major nerve

>playing with shit

>>15341712

I honestly forgot that that section had the storm effects cleared out already (thanks to Raven, I guess) considering the rest of the pillar has that "no shift" effect, so I just freefell through it like an idiot. Still made it through though, but it was really close. But given the point there is survival and making your way to the bottom, I guess any means that works should be, and was, allowed.

I had a lot of fun playing both and they are both among my favorite games for the PS4 which is admittedly a pretty fucking small list but still.

It's okay to like things sometimes but I'm sorry you didn't have as much fun with two as I did OP

>>15338820

I desire to impregnate both these animes

>enter Gravity Rush thread

>no lewds

>>15341630

>Everytime you get hit you drop the object you're holding.

There's an item you can equip for that. Frankly I found most of the items useless so I just had that on the whole time.

>>15342587

They're practically the only good games for PS4, but they're also some of the only games since 2007 that have been as good as pre-2007 games. Two of the only good games to come out in like 15 years.

>>15342687

>There's an item you can equip for that.

Not in the first game since there's no equips, which is what he's talking about. Though maybe stasis field level ups provided something similar. Been a while since I played.

>>15342712

My mistake. I never found either game hard, though. I really don't get what he's talking about with anything being frustrating. A couple challenge missions were tough, but frequently that was just because I was supposed to come back later with more upgrades.

>>15343436

>>15339911

Forgot to mention the interview is at the end of the artbook.

>slow movement speed

>autotarget combat

>miyazaki kiddy chink shit aesthetics

>skimpy clothed virtual waifus despite looking like a kids game

>gay fucking ass weeb soundtrack

>pointless open world for the sake of open world

This looks like shameless soy garbage.

>>15343483

>t. Goon

>>15343436

Can you still take photos without the treasure hunts? Is the photo mode robust?

>>15343558

Photo mode is its own separate thing, and there's an internal viewer as albums you can enlarge images from within the camera mode. Individual photos could be sent around at random.

Treasures could be found on their own, without hints, but don't (didn't?) spawn too frequently, and have (had?) a lot of variable places they could be in a given locale. What made them easier to find was that the game would prompt you to take a photo of a find (regardless of how you found it), and then send the photo to someone else as a hint to them where to find it. I'm honestly not sure how treasures handle now that there's no server to work with. I'd like to think they can still spawn at random, but I could see not having a connection screwing with it trying to send a photo, and I'm not sure how it might react. I didn't find anymore treasures myself after the servers went down, but that could just have been my own shitty luck.

>>15343593

>>15343558

But in short you can take photos; that wasn't culled. You just can't send them around anymore for rating, or to instance a treasure chest into someone's game.

>>15343483

You're fooling no one.

>>15338843

>Shit game, people only like it because their dicks uncontrollably drift towards anime girls no matter what garbage they're attached to.

WRONG; It's a mediocore game that people mostly like because their dicks uncontrollably drift towards anime girls.

I agree with the OP about 2 being worse than 1 though; it removed all the charm and replaced it with anime clichés, changing Kat into a flanderised "muh food" dress up doll in the process.

>Trash was better than trash

Sure. Ok. Bye.

>All these fags mad they can't play Kate's cute 3d movement game

>>15343436

>What would have really been nice too would have been platium ranks in the challenge missions that would be unlocked after you gold all of them and strongly require talismans and mastery of the mechanics to win.

This is what should have been a thing instead of leaderboard-based Dusty Tokens. They could have at least patched it in when they took the online down.

>the story

It's a continuation, not the same story. Might as well say you can't like Empire Strikes Back more than Return of the Jedi since the story gets no ending without Jedi.

>>15343483

>slow movement speed

Objectively untrue. The movement is the whole point of the game.

>skimpy clothed virtual waifus

>soy garbage

>implying soyboys don't get extremely butthurt over skimpy clothed virtual waifus

>>15343824

But Raven is the one all about food.

>>15348666

Because the games I want are on there you slow child. Who's NoMoreGaijin?

>>15348634

>Thankfully you can edit your save file

Interesting. And that works with legit copies too, or does it require CFW and a pirate?

>Spoiler

Does that thing even have a proper run animation, or does equipping it as an unofficial costume gimp you like the real thing?

>>15348634

It makes me sad. Gravity Rush 2 is a vast improvement over the original in every way so far. I am loving the new tonal shift and generally colorful vibe of this game, plus using the telekinesis is actually fun this time. You can fly and shoot accurately now. Kat is even cuter in this game too. It's nice to see a genuinely nice helpful protag in a game that just wants to do good deeds instead of some selfish cunt or nihilist. Feel comfy man.

I hope there is a third game. There is so much potential in this series.

>>15349266

>It makes me sad.

The way Sony treated the franchise has more to do with the landscape of the industry. The fact it got made and Toyama continues to be in his position with his team. Japanese games have been doing significantly well but since the late 6th and the 7th generation there's been campaigns conducted in media, retail, development, conventions, etc. to discredit and hurt the reputation of Japanese games to inflate the relevance of Western ones, regardless of their quality. This was inevitably going to fail but we're in an environment now where billions were invested in inflating the relevance of one and deflating the relevance of another. Now there's been a number of mainstream successes that can't be ignored the environment created primarily last generation can't be easily justified. The money is already spent, however.

Gravity Rush 1 and 2 were caught in the middle of it and the relevant first party groups didn't give it what it deserved due to what the establishment in the industry already had set up for years. Gravity Rush wasn't unique in this regard, it happened to pretty much every Japanese game.

>>15348713

>wife-fu

ah yes, arts like crouching oven hidden vacuum really win over a man's heart!

>>15348634

Interesting. How do you edit save files?

>>15355651

Well it's harder to get furniture now. I also heard there was a way to use this method to unlock Raven

>>15355669

There's a raven exploit that doesn't require save game editing. Apart from missions that require kat that use her abilities specifically you can play through most of the game as Raven. It's really cool because she plays so differently.

>>15349802

That is natural. If you prop a group up artificially, they will become decadent and lazy. This is on top of the other issues facing the western game industry.

Played and beat both while platinuming the first. They're alright. Playable, but nothing something i'd buy at more than 40 dollars. If a sequel happens, i'll probably play it too.