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>>15337418

>he hasn't seen Dark Souls III's 'damage' formula

>>15337418

STALKER's damage formula is pretty straight forward, it's just that whoever made that "graph" has no clue what a fucking graph is and made it completely unintelligible

>>15337459

Quick rundown?

>>15337541

Looks clear enough to me?

>>15337418

Warframe's damage calculations are pretty fucked. Every weapon effectively deals varying degrees of split damage, which kind of makes certain weapons incredibly effective and others absolutely worthless. Rivens only compound this issue; they make the act of acquiring a weapon, and then subsequently completing a build that is viable for "end game content" a needlessly aggravating process. Of course, I am only addressing this in general terms, and some may argue that rivens aren't an absolute necessity, but I think most people will agree that a good riven can mean the difference between having a moderately good weapon and having an incredibly effective weapon that can demolish anything in its wake.

SMT:Nocturne

>Spell damage is some ridiculous bullshit formula that caps around level 50 and goes DOWN (slightly) the more you level. This is around midgame level, you finish the game around level 80-90.

>Agility only matters in increments of level /5 + 3 due to rounding, so by level 50 only every 13th point of agility has an effect. In a game where you get 1 stat point per level and stats cap at 40.

>This also means your hit rate goes down if you leveled agility early and then level up more.

>Luck is half as good as agility, basically useless.

>>15337418

That looks like a pretty simple of damage resistance and % chance to miss, what's the problem?

>>15337459

It's just flat damage reduction then percentile damage reduction I think?

DS3 is a shit game and armor is shit in DS3 but the formula is fine, armor just needs to be made better.

>>15337418

>Chance for a shot that physically connects to actually deal damage

>100% regardless of difficulty

I should fucking hope so, but did this really warrant its own line?

>>15339262

Because there is a persistent rumor that the enemy miss chance affects the player as well, which isn't the case. OP didn't read his own chart.

Ironically, damage in STALKER is fucked for a reason not on that chart. Enemies gain damage resistance if shot repeatedly in the same body part, which combined with inaccurate early game weapons leads to them shrugging off entire mags and players believing their rounds are evaporating mid-air.

>>15339202

>DS3 is a shit game

Homosexual confirmed.

>>15339202

>>This also means your hit rate goes down if you leveled agility early and then level up more.

what the fuck

>>15337564

just use corrosive dude, maybe gas on corpus. nobody gives a fuck about ips damage or optimizing for damage weakness except for more weight on slash for sick bleed procs. armor scaling is what really fucks over basically every damage type unless you run 4cp (or corrosive in general). it dosn't help that every other status effect is total trash barring viral, which is only good on slash builds.

>>15339288

>Enemies gain damage resistance if shot repeatedly in the same body part

Not exactly.

http://www.metacognix.com/stlkrsoc/WhatYouKnowThatAintSo.html#Guns

>Every first shot after a time_to_aim delay does more damage than normally, and only to the head (5X to NPCs, 10X to mutants); subsequent shots do reduced "normal" damage (even zero damage, depending on the body part struck). This lower damage may be helping to extend the duration of gun battles. The best advice is to go for the head (both NPCs and mutants) and wait the time_to_aim amount between shots.*

>Different NPC and mutant "bones" have different damage multipliers. Some parts have zero damage, like fingers and toes. (This may be why many believe NPCs are invulnerable during their hit animations. They flinch and cover their torso with their arms, so you end up shooting less vulnerable parts.) Mutants especially have a lot of empty space where no damage is done. Where the accuracy is available to you, go for the high-damage parts like the head.

>>15339747

Yep, BL2 wins. I remember a vid from some time ago saying how damage equations for some weapon types or manufacturers purposefully have lower modifiers to make them shit when a normal one makes the game better

>>15339648

https://zombero.wordpress.com/category/smt-nocturne/

>Physical Accuracy: Skill_Accuracy + ([Attacker_Agi/[Attacker_Lv/5 + 3]] * 6.25) – ([Defender_Agi/[Defender_Lv/5 + 3]] * 6.25)

I think the idea is that you need to "keep up" your accuracy with your level or you suffer (if you put 1 into agility every 5 levels you'd stay even).

>>15337418

Sounds way better then Drake's Fortune, all the cheesy 80's-90's action moves the human enemies in the game do is alright up until the moment they do that over exaggerated hit movement when you hit them anywhere but the head. Every fucking time my bullets will go right through them during that moment, the guys with laser sights are the worst cause they fucking do this nigger jig movement when you shoot at them even if you hit them only when they're aiming can they reliably be hit. I was already straining my tolerance of the extreme linear set pieces that would kill if you so much as backtracked the wrong way for a few seconds (there is a timer that will auto-kill you if touching certain ground doesn't happen).

>>15341917

So because armor doesn't actually negate damage*, it means that strength pures were probably the best PKing build, yes?

*: On paper, accuracy/dodge would give you a soft effective HP increase

>>15341927

That is precisely how it goes down. Pking is basically gambling between 2 fags with 1 defense and 99 combat stats to duck combat level limits. If they have a defense level, it is 45 or 70 so they can equip armors with offensive bonuses

>>15337418

Yes, it is called "bad hit detection."